Tracy Mcgrady vs Paul Pierce vs Vince Carter vs Allen Iverson in the 2000's

[Duncan21formvp]

Rank them from best to worst?

[WeaponX2024]

1. Pierce
2. Iverson
3. Carter
4. McGrady

Based off of success and accomplishments of this decade.

[NASH = BEST]

3b. Air Canada
3a. Crazy Eye Mcgrady
2. Bubba Chucks (MVP + Finals appearance)
1. Paul Pierce (Finals MVP + Ring)

Vince and Mcgrady were pretty much even in the last decade, both had a lot of let downs. In fact thats all I remember when I think of both of them dudes, LET DOWNS!!

[L.Kizzle]

1. Pierce
2. Iverson
3. Carter
4. McGrady

Based off of success and accomplishments of this decade.
AI
Mac
PP
VC

[Juges8932]

Accomplishments:
1)Pierce (I hate to say it, but I think FMVP and a Ring are most important)
2)AI (MVP+finals)
3)VC
4)TMAC

Physical abilities/prime:
1)TMAC
2A)AI
2B)VC
3) Pierce

[Revelation]

Accomplishments:
1)Pierce (I hate to say it, but I think FMVP and a Ring are most important)
2)AI (MVP+finals)
3)VC
4)TMAC

Physical abilities/prime:
1)TMAC
2A)AI
2B)VC
3) Pierce

Agreed. Strange how the most talented and "best" player of the bunch was the least successful.

[Juges8932]

Agreed. Strange how the most talented and "best" player of the bunch was the least successful.

No kidding. He could very well have gone down very high in the all-time rankings with all that potential. Too bad he got plagued by injuries and some would say, laziness. I'm a fan of all of them, except for Pierce. Disappointing that none of them really did anything aside from Pierce.

[WeaponX2024]

AI
Mac
PP
VC
McGrady above Pierce? I would understand Iverson, but McGrady? Don't give me that give McGrady a stacked team crap either, because even McGrady himself said something like that. You can talk about your All-NBA teams, but Pierce is above Tmac and there's nothing that supports Tmac.

[phoenix18]

Depressing thread. I would have AI at number one since he's a top 30 player, but what do I know?

[HylianNightmare]

Paul Pierce
AI
Vince
Tmac

[L.Kizzle]

McGrady above Pierce? I would understand Iverson, but McGrady? Don't give me that give McGrady a stacked team crap either, because even McGrady himself said something like that. You can talk about your All-NBA teams, but Pierce is above Tmac and there's nothing that supports Tmac.
PP was a noob until two seasons ago.

[WeaponX2024]

PP was a noob until two seasons ago.
Sorry, but the dude was somewhat playoff successful before Garnett and Allen came around. He led his team to the Eastern Conference Finals, I don't recall that happening with McGrady, I don't recall him even touching the 2nd round. Sorry man, I'm sure you really like McGrady but Pierce just blows him straight out the water.

[Mark Madsen]

Iverson
Mac/VC
PP

[hawksdogsbraves]

AI
Pierce
McGrady
Carter

I really don't see how you can put Pierce in front of AI, sure he has a title and finals mvp but that was on a stacked team and he barely won finals mvp over Ray Allen if you remember.

AI is a top 30 player of all time, on another level from these other guys in my opinion.

[WeaponX2024]

AI
Pierce
McGrady
Carter

I really don't see how you can put Pierce in front of AI, sure he has a title and finals mvp but that was on a stacked team and he barely won finals mvp over Ray Allen if you remember.

AI is a top 30 player of all time, on another level from these other guys in my opinion.
It's better than winning nothing in the Finals.

[phoenix18]

It's better than winning nothing in the Finals.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Is PP better than Elgin Baylor too?

[WeaponX2024]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Is PP better than Elgin Baylor too?
No, but I hope you are comparing Iverson to Baylor, because Baylor is much better than Iverson as well as Pierce.

[hawksdogsbraves]

It's better than winning nothing in the Finals.

? Winning a championship is great but it doesn't make Pierce a better player than Iverson. AI won an MVP and carried a team to the finals. If you had put AI on a team with 2 other future HOFers he may have won a ring himself. The only reason I would put Pierce above McGrady and Carter is because of his ring, but I don't think you can really compare him to AI.

[WeaponX2024]

? Winning a championship is great but it doesn't make Pierce a better player than Iverson. AI won an MVP and carried a team to the finals. If you had put AI on a team with 2 other future HOFers he may have won a ring himself. The only reason I would put Pierce above McGrady and Carter is because of his ring, but I don't think you can really compare him to AI.
May have, doesn't mean he would have and I actually doubt it too. Iverson has never shown signs where he could cooperate with other superstar players or make them better.

[hawksdogsbraves]

May have, doesn't mean he would have and I actually doubt it too. Iverson has never shown signs where he could cooperate with other superstar players or make them better.

Either way Iverson was the superior player. Let's compare some stats shall we?

Paul Pierce: 22.7ppg 6.2rpg 3.9apg 1.5spg 44fg%
7xAll Star
1x Second Team All-NBA
3x Third Team All-NBA
1x Finals Champion and MVP


Allen Iverson: 27ppg 6.2apg 3.7rpg 2.2spg 42fg%
9x All Star
2x First Team All-NBA
3x Second Team All-NBA
1x Third Team All-NBA
1x NBA MVP

It is pretty clear from the stats who has had the better career, and as far as the playoffs go, AI's numbers are far ahead (PP's playoff numbers are actually slightly worse than his career stats :/).

PP also has never started an All-Star game, while AI has started in all nine.

I am not really an AI fan like some on these forums, but when it comes to AI vs Pierce the answer seems pretty clear.

[kNIOKAS]

i have little trouble with ai over paul, but i doubt you would rank AI that high while speaking on another topic.
anyway, true, ai and paul is definitely above the sprained brothers :lol

[Real Men Wear Green]

Iverson was the best individual player. He had a number of scoring titles, won an MVP award, and although there was no one as tough as the Cavs or Pistons to go through at the time he did still lead a team to the Finals as the best player, whereas Pierce, in spite of the MVP award, was overall the second-best Celtic that year behind KG. So I'd put AI at #1.

Pierce comes in second. VC won more ASG popularity contests and T-Mac had scoring titles, as well as the ASG popularity. But those two both quit on teams, which Pierce did not do, and Pierce is a Finals MVP, which counts for a lot as a clutch player. Also, of the three Pierce had the least injury-wrecked seasons (only one) and the guy that exceeds him in per game stats (McGrady) is also the guy with 67, 47, 66, and 35-game seasons. I don't blame McGrady for getting hurt so much but it has effected his value as a player.

Suppose Carter goes third...again, the injuries to McGrady hurt his case.

And Mac, obviously, is 4th.

[elementally morale]

Higherst Peak
McGrady
Iverson
Carter
Pierce


Best Career (accomplishments)
Pierce
Iverson
Carter
McGrady


All-Time List (playing ability through career)
Iverson
Pierce
Carter
McGrady

[L.Kizzle]

Higherst Peak
McGrady
Iverson
Carter
Pierce


Best Career (accomplishments)
Pierce
Iverson
Carter
McGrady


All-Time List (playing ability through career)
Iverson
Pierce
Carter
McGrady
What is an accomplishment?

[The_Yearning]

lmao pierce over AI and T-Mac and VC? Lol you fools got some short time memory. PP was practically a nobody...kinda like the Danny Granger and Al jeff of the league right now...good decent numbers that nobody knows.

VC, Ai, and T-mac have always been in the limelight...

[Real Men Wear Green]

lmao pierce over AI and T-Mac and VC? Lol you fools got some short time memory. PP was practically a nobody...kinda like the Danny Granger and Al jeff of the league right now...good decent numbers that nobody knows.

VC, Ai, and T-mac have always been in the limelight...
Pierce has been all-NBA 4 times, and has 7 or 8 ASG appearances. Not to mention a Finals MVP award. You calling him a "nobody" reflects far more strongly on your ability to evaluate players than on Pierce's career.

[Andrei89]

Iverson was the best

and you know it

[BALLin01]

Iverson
Pierce
Carter
Mac

[hawksdogsbraves]

Pierce has been all-NBA 4 times, and has 7 or 8 ASG appearances. Not to mention a Finals MVP award. You calling him a "nobody" reflects far more strongly on your ability to evaluate players than on Pierce's career.

But would you put Pierce over AI?

[CasterL]

Higherst Peak
McGrady
Iverson
Carter
Pierce


Best Career (accomplishments)
Pierce
Iverson
Carter
McGrady


All-Time List (playing ability through career)
Iverson
Pierce
Carter
McGrady


this looks pretty much spot on, although i would swap iverson and pierce on second list. shame how all the injuries and other bull**** have stopped mcgrady from becoming an all time great like he could and should have been

[Real Men Wear Green]

But would you put Pierce over AI?
I have already answered that question.

[Brunch@Five]

I remember 3 or 4 years ago Pierce was considered the worst of the bunch. What playing on a great team with great players can do to how well you're perceived.

AI and TMac are the only ones that were top 5 in the NBA at one point, Pierce and Vince were top 10 at best.

[Yung D-Will]

Any list with out A.I number 1 is completely retarded this man is a legit top 30 player of all time and was just killing it in 2000

1. Iverson
2. Pierce
3. Vince
4. Mac

[Real Men Wear Green]

I remember 3 or 4 years ago Pierce was considered the worst of the bunch. What playing on a great team with great players can do to how well you're perceived.

AI and TMac are the only ones that were top 5 in the NBA at one point, Pierce and Vince were top 10 at best.
The ECF season early in the 2000s, Pierce had an argument for being a top 5 player. But regardless, no one disputes that McGrady was great at his peak, but injuries marred a number of his seasons.

[B-Diddy=2Easy]

I remember 3 or 4 years ago Pierce was considered the worst of the bunch. What playing on a great team with great players can do to how well you're.

This is a load of bull.

[Andrei89]

Eddie Murphy

[WeaponX2024]

The ECF season early in the 2000s, Pierce had an argument for being a top 5 player. But regardless, no one disputes that McGrady was great at his peak, but injuries marred a number of his seasons.
:applause:

[L.Kizzle]

I remember 3 or 4 years ago Pierce was considered the worst of the bunch. What playing on a great team with great players can do to how well you're perceived.

AI and TMac are the only ones that were top 5 in the NBA at one point, Pierce and Vince were top 10 at best.
Great post, dude did not get better, or change his game, he's the same player he was 7 years ago, yet seven years he wasn't considered top 5 or won scoring titles or was on all-nba 1st or second teams.

[Duncan21formvp]

Any list with out A.I number 1 is completely retarded this man is a legit top 30 player of all time and was just killing it in 2000

1. Iverson
2. Pierce
3. Vince
4. Mac

Why is this? Unless you hold his MVP higher than anything else.

[RRR3]

T-Mac was clearly the best out of all these guys the first half of the decade. LOL @ Paul Pierce. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Legends66NBA7]

T-Mac was clearly the best out of all these guys the first half of the decade. LOL @ Paul Pierce. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Well it's 2000's, the full decade.

And no he wasn't clearly the best out of all them in the first half. Highest peak, sure but I would still go with Iverson on that.

[LAClipsFan33]

1. Allen Iverson
2. Paul Pierce
3. Vince Carter
4. Tracy McGrady

I put AI at the top because his peak is so much more impressive than Paul's

[RRR3]

Well it's 2000's, the full decade.

And no he wasn't clearly the best out of all them in the first half. Highest peak, sure but I would still go with Iverson on that.
McGrady best year is better than any of Iverson's years easily. T-Mac in Orlando was generally considered to be at least as good as Kobe. Iverson wasn't.

[Legends66NBA7]

McGrady best year is better than any of Iverson's years easily. T-Mac in Orlando was generally considered to be at least as good as Kobe. Iverson wasn't.

Again, yes I already agree with you that T-Mac's peak year was better than Iverson's years.

However, if we are still talking about first half of that decade then Iverson clearly had the better years overall than both T-Mac and Kobe. More accomplishments and accolades to boot and as the main guy, he was leading his teams to the playoffs deeper.

And who the hell said Iverson wasn't ? I would like to know what criteria they were talking about discussing those 3 players at the time. Iverson has to belong with them in the same conversation, if not above them at that time.

[Real Men Wear Green]

McGrady best year is better than any of Iverson's years easily. T-Mac in Orlando was generally considered to be at least as good as Kobe. Iverson wasn't.
You do realize that AI has an MVP award?

[Legends66NBA7]

You do realize that AI has an MVP award?

Yeah, I would put that under accolades.

And really, Iverson carried that 2001 Sixers team on his back, 2 50+ point games in a series vs the Raptors and 3 straight 40+ point games in the playoffs 2 against the Bucks and the lone loss against those juggernaut 2001 Lakers.

[iDunk]

1. Allen Iverson
2. Paul Pierce
3. Vince Carter
4. Tracy McGrady

[Duncan21formvp]

1. Allen Iverson
2. Paul Pierce
3. Vince Carter
4. Tracy McGrady
What puts Vince over Mcgrady or even Pierce above Mcgrady?

[bizil]

Off of GOAT type shit or career resume:

Iverson
Pierce
Carter
T Mac

In terms of peak value or who I feel was the best player:

T Mac
Iverson
Pierce
Carter

These four guys along with Ray and Kobe formed the golden era of SG's in the L. A lil later Wade joined the group. Pierce soon moved to SF and played it so often he will be remembered as a GOAT SF. But this era of players holds down four of the top 10 GOAT SG's. U got Kobe, Wade, AI, and Ray all in the top 10.

[GOBB]

Iverson was better than all of them. So you start with Iverson then argue the order afterwards.