View Full Version : Can Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James score 35,000+ points in their career?
Batman
01-05-2010, 10:11 AM
only Karl Malone and Kareem have played and produced long enough to do it. obviously the GOAT MJ could have done it if he played more season he had 32k.
Right now LeBron James has 14,000 points and Carmelo Anthony has a little under 12,000 points. Both of them are 25 years old. My question is do you think they can both score over 35,000 points in their career.?
O.J A 6'4Mamba
01-05-2010, 10:19 AM
no
kurple
01-05-2010, 10:22 AM
yes
Alhazred
01-05-2010, 10:24 AM
Lebron sure, Melo? The guy is Alex English of the 2000s. I say 22,000+ for him.
Big#50
01-05-2010, 11:35 AM
Lebron sure, Melo? The guy is Alex English of the 2000s. I say 22,000+ for him.
Lebron will be at 40k by the time he retires. In six season he can be at 28k. He'll only be 30-31.
Alhazred
01-05-2010, 11:37 AM
Lebron will be at 40k by the time he retires. In six season he can be at 28k. He'll only be 30-31.
He'll also be in his thirteenth season. Mileage counts, too.
I'm not doubting he'll get his points by the end of his career. 35,000-40,000 if he stays healthy and still plays at a high level.
Big#50
01-05-2010, 11:40 AM
He'll also be in his thirteenth season. Mileage counts, too.
I'm not doubting he'll get his points by the end of his career. 35,000-40,000 if he stays healthy and still plays at a high level.
He'll stay healthy. He's stronger than 98% of the league.
Alhazred
01-05-2010, 11:42 AM
He'll stay healthy. He's stronger than 98% of the league.
Ok....
Apocalyptic0n3
01-05-2010, 12:26 PM
He'll stay healthy. He's stronger than 98% of the league.
So was Ben Wallace, but his production slowed to a standstill for a season and a half to two seasons. He's back to where he was now, but who knows how long he'll be able to stay there. He's also had relatively low numbers of games played. Lebron could get hit hard by age, who knows. And then there is always the injury factor; one injury to his shoulders or knees could reduce his abilities significantly, no matter how strong he is.
HylianNightmare
01-05-2010, 12:30 PM
No both will fall short at around 22 or 23
Big#50
01-05-2010, 12:44 PM
No both will fall short at around 22 or 23
HUH?
Lakers13
01-05-2010, 01:50 PM
No. If LeBon stays healthy he will come close
lilgodfather1
01-05-2010, 02:51 PM
Points shouldn't be the thing that LeBron trys to hang his legacy on. He is to complete of a player to let his legacy hinge on one aspect of the game. Melo has no real shot, LeBron of course could do it, but he could..... get to 40,000 if he got really lucky. LeBrons should try to get 30/10/10/2.5/2 (every tihng in the thousands) for points/assists/rebounds/steals/blocks.
Anton Chigurh
01-05-2010, 02:53 PM
HUH?
he meant they will slow down when they reach 22k or 23k points
imdaman99
01-05-2010, 03:22 PM
Points shouldn't be the thing that LeBron trys to hang his legacy on. He is to complete of a player to let his legacy hinge on one aspect of the game. Melo has no real shot, LeBron of course could do it, but he could..... get to 40,000 if he got really lucky. LeBrons should try to get 30/10/10/2.5/2 (every tihng in the thousands) for points/assists/rebounds/steals/blocks.
How many turnovers should Lebron try to average dominating the ball that much? 8? or should we settle for 6?
All Net
01-05-2010, 03:25 PM
Lebron will be at 40k by the time he retires. In six season he can be at 28k. He'll only be 30-31.
Lebron is going to have to adjust his game better when he hits 30 as right now his skills aren't built to be as effective once his athletic abilty goes.
Disaprine
01-05-2010, 03:35 PM
only Karl Malone and Kareem have played and produced long enough to do it. obviously the GOAT MJ could have done it if he played more season he had 32k.
Right now LeBron James has 14,000 points and Carmelo Anthony has a little under 12,000 points. Both of them are 25 years old. My question is do you think they can both score over 35,000 points in their career.?
nope, Lebron is to much of a facilitator to do that and Carmelo would probably end up with 30,000+ at best.
imdaman99
01-05-2010, 03:36 PM
Lebron is going to have to adjust his game better when he hits 30 as right now his skills aren't built to be as effective once his athletic abilty goes.
I trust he will. He most probably worked on his jumper this offseason and he has been shooting better this year. So he's continuing to get better.
kkling
01-05-2010, 03:42 PM
Lebron has high basketball IQ, so he's aware that he needs to develop a post game. Which he started working on this past off season.
chazzy
01-05-2010, 03:46 PM
Lebron is going to have to adjust his game better when he hits 30 as right now his skills aren't built to be as effective once his athletic abilty goes.
This. You can't say "he's gotten 2k every year, so if he just played at least 14 seasons he's a LOCK for 30k!" because players fall out of their athletic prime obviously, and a lot of his scoring comes from his ability to get to the rim. He's got to develop a consistent post game to come even close to 30k
lakerspng
01-05-2010, 04:31 PM
There are two players in the league that have a chance to get up there with Malone and Jabbar.
Kobe and Lebron
Kobe if he stays healthy the next 5 or 6 years will be there without a doubt and he's now played in something like 200 consecutive game,s the longest streak in his career, so even though he's getting older, his durability seems to be getting better.... I mainly attribute this to playing a more grounded game, relying more on skill and poise than athleticism and speed.
Lebron is going to have to develop a more refined skillset to do it, but he has the time to do so. and he has been very durable to this point in his career... as long as no freak injury happens, he should be able to play (given that he develops a strong post game) at a high level to his mid 30s. which should give him a great shot at catching the cap'n and the mailman and by then, Kobe.
I have a feeling Kobe will retire as the all time scoring leader, with Lebron finishing 4th behind the mailman and Kareem, leaving Jordan in 5th.
delmar
01-05-2010, 06:21 PM
no :no:
itsGameTime
01-05-2010, 06:23 PM
Try Kevin Durant :confusedshrug:
lilgodfather1
01-05-2010, 06:28 PM
Try Kevin Durant :confusedshrug:
Why? He hasn't shown that he is that type of scorer yet.
Quata
01-05-2010, 06:32 PM
Why? He hasn't shown that he is that type of scorer yet.
Is that a joke?
Vancouver-Grizz
01-05-2010, 06:32 PM
Why? He hasn't shown that he is that type of scorer yet.
Are you kidding? in a year or so, Durant will be the leading scorer for a long time!
elementally morale
01-05-2010, 06:32 PM
Yes.
Combined.
lilgodfather1
01-05-2010, 06:53 PM
Is that a joke?
Are you kidding? in a year or so, Durant will be the leading scorer for a long time!
Thank you for proving my point. In a year or so, no that is not a joke. Durant is great, he has top 3 talent (in the entire NBA) but I doubt he will ever be the dominant scorer that many think he will be. He hasn't proved that he will ever top 30, and until he does I will never say that he will lead the leauge in scoring.
All Net
01-05-2010, 06:55 PM
Thank you for proving my point. In a year or so, no that is not a joke. Durant is great, he has top 3 talent (in the entire NBA) but I doubt he will ever be the dominant scorer that many think he will be. He hasn't proved that he will ever top 30, and until he does I will never say that he will lead the leauge in scoring.
Whats he averaging this year? 29? I don't see why he won't crack 30 many times over the years.
Quata
01-05-2010, 07:03 PM
Thank you for proving my point. In a year or so, no that is not a joke. Durant is great, he has top 3 talent (in the entire NBA) but I doubt he will ever be the dominant scorer that many think he will be. He hasn't proved that he will ever top 30, and until he does I will never say that he will lead the leauge in scoring.
He already is a dominant scorer. When you are 4th in ppg in the NBA on a good % you are a dominant scorer.
lilgodfather1
01-05-2010, 07:04 PM
Whats he averaging this year? 29? I don't see why he won't crack 30 many times over the years.
28.4 lol but still that is only 2329 points compared to 2460 and thats a difference of 131 points a season. Can he add an extra 130 points? We will see, but I can't say that I believe he is going to ever lead the league in scoring, especially as his teams continue to get better.
All Net
01-05-2010, 07:07 PM
28.4 lol but still that is only 2329 points compared to 2460 and thats a difference of 131 points a season. Can he add an extra 130 points? We will see, but I can't say that I believe he is going to ever lead the league in scoring, especially as his teams continue to get better.
Depends on the development on Westbrook and Green.
Quata
01-05-2010, 07:09 PM
28.4 lol but still that is only 2329 points compared to 2460 and thats a difference of 131 points a season. Can he add an extra 130 points? We will see, but I can't say that I believe he is going to ever lead the league in scoring, especially as his teams continue to get better.
No reason he cant, Green can be a 15-20ppg guy, if westbrook turns into more of a facilitator it would work in Durants favour, same with harden. Heck kobe leads the league in ppg with far better company, no reason durant can't.
lilgodfather1
01-05-2010, 07:13 PM
No reason he cant, Green can be a 15-20ppg guy, if westbrook turns into more of a facilitator it would work in Durants favour, same with harden. Heck kobe leads the league in ppg with far better company, no reason durant can't.
Sure but as the team gets better the minutes will get shorter, and IMO that is a big what if on Westbrook, but that JMO. And to note I said I don't think he will be the dominant scorer that many think that he will be, not that he isn't a great scorer.
liljohnnywall
01-05-2010, 08:10 PM
Kevin Durant- 60%
Lebron James-45%
Carmelo Anthony- 15%
of getting that mark.
Lebron23
01-06-2010, 04:27 AM
LeBron is currently the youngest NBA player to ever score 14,000 points.
LeBron would score over 35,000 points, but I rather see him win more NBA Finals and Regular Season MVP than Kobe.
BigTicket
01-06-2010, 04:41 AM
Lebron will have 25k points by the time he hits 30, but by then he'll likely be starting his decline as well, so the last 10k points are going to be hard. He has a good shot at getting there though.
Melos production seems to fluctuate a lot, and he's behind Lebron by several thousand points already, even though he's a bit older, so I doubt he gets there.
Durant is too early to tell, he doesn't even have 5k points yet, so speculating on whether he'll get to 35k is not reasonable at this point.
Kobe has a good shot at getting 35k, he's got about 25k at the moment, so 10k more needed, and he doesn't seem to have slowed down yet. Assuming a gradual decline from current levels he should be able to get there in another 5 seasons, by which time he'd be 36. I think he'll be able to do that, but by then he'll have played 19 seasons, and around 1400 games, so retirement will be looming.
jmill
01-06-2010, 09:21 AM
Lebron will be at 40k by the time he retires. In six season he can be at 28k. He'll only be 30-31.
He's an underdog to do this. His current pace isn't that much better than Kobe's, and Kobe's a big dog to it as well.
You also have to take into consideration that it's less likely for him to have years where he scores say 35ppg for the year, given his playing style (he shoots less than MJ/Kobe), and the fact that he most likely wont be on a bad team any time soon. Look at MJ and Kobe, their highest scoring years came on their worst teams, which makes sense. You think Lebron is going to be on any bad teams any time soon? Cause I sure don't. Dude is going to make sure he has a team around him after this year, whether he stays in Cle, or goes to NY. Even if he does have a few years like Kobe/MJ did, he's still a dog. And even if he stays healthy every year of his career, he's a dog. That's because staying healthy=/=scoring 30ppg, when you're 33-35 years old. Everyone declines to some degree as they get older, MJ did, Kobe will, and Lebron will.
jmill
01-06-2010, 09:32 AM
Thank you for proving my point. In a year or so, no that is not a joke. Durant is great, he has top 3 talent (in the entire NBA) but I doubt he will ever be the dominant scorer that many think he will be. He hasn't proved that he will ever top 30, and until he does I will never say that he will lead the leauge in scoring.
You say this as if people can't make projections. Of course he hasn't proved it yet, he's 21, but he's absolutely the favorite among young players to lead the NBA in scoring at some point, based on what he's doing right now.
He's 21 years old, and he's averaging 28ppg with a TS% of .588, which is insane.
His PER by year: 15.8, 20.8, 23.5
His scoring by year: 20ppg, 25ppg, 28ppg
He's consistently improving every year, and he's 21 years old. He's the hands down favorite as of right now to lead the NBA in scoring at some point in the future. Making that claim is simply a rational projection based on actual results.
Brunch@Five
01-06-2010, 09:36 AM
Malone had 11 straight seasons of 25+ points per game, 17 straight of 20+. Scored 20.6 per game at age 39.
I doubt either Bron or Melo play for this long. Malone scored 8000 points after the age of 35 to get to 37k.
Moneyshot
01-06-2010, 10:14 AM
LeBron is currently the youngest NBA player to ever score 14,000 points.
LeBron would score over 35,000 points, but I rather see him win more NBA Finals and Regular Season MVP than Kobe.
But not rings? Gotcha.
Brunch@Five
01-06-2010, 10:23 AM
But not rings? Gotcha.
Although Bron is one of those players I could imagine winning Finals MVP without winning the championship, I reckon that what he meant with Finals MVP
Moneyshot
01-06-2010, 11:03 AM
Although Bron is one of those players I could imagine winning Finals MVP without winning the championship, I reckon that what he meant with Finals MVP
LoL, no, that's not what he meant. If you'll read between the lines, he's disregarding Kobe's first three rings with Shaq.
AlThornton
01-06-2010, 08:29 PM
Durant will get to 40k. He has the type of game that he will score even in his late 30's. 40 year old Durant? he will still be 6'10" with a 7'5" wingspan, and he will still have a great shooting stroke. he will also have a developed back to basket game by them.
zizozain
01-06-2010, 08:58 PM
He'll stay healthy. He's stronger than 98% of the league.
and the mental qualities ?
98% of the league are stronger
symbol33
01-06-2010, 10:05 PM
There are two players in the league that have a chance to get up there with Malone and Jabbar.
Kobe and Lebron
Kobe if he stays healthy the next 5 or 6 years will be there without a doubt and he's now played in something like 200 consecutive game,s the longest streak in his career, so even though he's getting older, his durability seems to be getting better.... I mainly attribute this to playing a more grounded game, relying more on skill and poise than athleticism and speed.
Lebron is going to have to develop a more refined skillset to do it, but he has the time to do so. and he has been very durable to this point in his career... as long as no freak injury happens, he should be able to play (given that he develops a strong post game) at a high level to his mid 30s. which should give him a great shot at catching the cap'n and the mailman and by then, Kobe.
I have a feeling Kobe will retire as the all time scoring leader, with Lebron finishing 4th behind the mailman and Kareem, leaving Jordan in 5th.
that's a good feeling, haha
Lebron23
05-23-2020, 02:59 PM
Bumping an old thread. LeBron is going to score over 35,000 next season.
Lebron23
05-23-2020, 03:05 PM
Lebron is going to have to adjust his game better when he hits 30 as right now his skills aren't built to be as effective once his athletic abilty goes.
And he did adjusted in his 30's. And still averaging almost 26 ppg in his 17th season.
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