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Ancient Legend
01-12-2010, 03:34 PM
Anyone seen any pics of MJ and LeBron posing together? Couldn't find any in Google.

Andrei89
01-12-2010, 03:37 PM
no

inclinerator
01-12-2010, 03:41 PM
theres a pic of while lebron was in highschool meeting jordan after a game and shaking his hands. The pic was in the book "The Franchise: Lebron James and the Remaking of the Cleveland Cavaliers"

madmax
01-12-2010, 03:43 PM
I've got the impression that Mike doesn't like Lebron too much...:confusedshrug:

Big Bang Theory
01-12-2010, 03:50 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/242sw00.jpg
Best one I could find, sure there's more.

lilbeastnani
01-12-2010, 03:53 PM
Holy ****, and we all thought Lebron was big at that time. Look at him now.

HylianNightmare
01-12-2010, 03:56 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/242sw00.jpg
Best one I could find, sure there's more.


man lebron has gotten so ripped

lilbeastnani
01-12-2010, 04:01 PM
http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/2009/news/11/12/lebron.jordan.ap/lebron_jordan.jpg

mongePR(kb24)
01-12-2010, 05:18 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/242sw00.jpg
Best one I could find, sure there's more.

man lebron has gotten so ripped

yeah, he said he got big without working out...

NBASTATMAN
01-12-2010, 05:54 PM
I've got the impression that Mike doesn't like Lebron too much...:confusedshrug:


Me too..

bigkingsfan
01-12-2010, 06:01 PM
http://www.urbanham.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/kobebron.jpg

Andrei89
01-12-2010, 06:03 PM
http://www.urbanham.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/kobebron.jpg

wtf, how old was lebron here? 20?

Lakers13
01-12-2010, 06:13 PM
Damn, LeBron got huge rather quickly.....

rzp
01-12-2010, 06:36 PM
http://www.urbanham.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/kobebron.jpg

:lol

lilbeastnani
01-12-2010, 06:38 PM
Honestly, I don't know what supplements they took (Bron and Howard) but they definitely took something crazy. I wouldn't be surprised if it was HGH or something.

lilbeastnani
01-12-2010, 06:45 PM
I don't care what anyone says, you don't go from this:
http://www.stvm.com/images/news/articles/20090503_46736115.jpg

to this:

http://www.fantasysportsday.com/files/fantasysportsday/images/6641.jpg

just by working hard.

Mikaiel
01-12-2010, 06:49 PM
I don't care what anyone says, you don't go from this:
http://www.stvm.com/images/news/articles/20090503_46736115.jpg

to this:

http://www.fantasysportsday.com/files/fantasysportsday/images/6641.jpg

just by working hard.

You do realize there's like a 7-year difference between those 2 pics, right ? :confusedshrug:

He was just a teenager in that first pic :hammerhead:

lilbeastnani
01-12-2010, 06:55 PM
You do realize there's like a 7-year difference between those 2 pics, right ? :confusedshrug:

He was just a teenager in that first pic :hammerhead:
Ok but he was 6'8 240 when he first entered the league and right now they're saying 6'9 274, with no reduction in speed or athleticism. Does that make sense to you?

Grinder
01-12-2010, 06:58 PM
No way Lebron is 275. He's 260.

Mikaiel
01-12-2010, 07:01 PM
Ok but he was 6'8 240 when he first entered the league and right now they're saying 6'9 274, with no reduction in speed or athleticism. Does that make sense to you?

So ?

Would make it sense if he actually was less athletic than he was at 17 ?

No.

Brandon Roy
01-12-2010, 07:05 PM
Ok but he was 6'8 240 when he first entered the league and right now they're saying 6'9 274, with no reduction in speed or athleticism. Does that make sense to you?
Honestly, if we started finding out that a good amount of NBA players are on steroids, I wouldn't be too surprised.

On the other hand, it is possible that he gained all that muscle in a natural and organic way. 34 lbs is possible in much less than 7 years. Also, the specialized training that he gets on a daily basis can help him gain quickness, strength and explosiveness.

Maybe he's just a freak of nature.

Lebron23
01-12-2010, 07:07 PM
Ok but he was 6'8 240 when he first entered the league and right now they're saying 6'9 274, with no reduction in speed or athleticism. Does that make sense to you?


LeBron passed the Olympic style drug testing in the 2008 Summer Olympics.

OneMoreSucka
01-12-2010, 07:17 PM
The steroids bit gets so old. Some people are just stupid.

NoGunzJustSkillz
01-12-2010, 07:20 PM
The steroids bit gets so old. Some people are just stupid.
i agree. lebron pays an assssload for the finest trainers the world has to offer.

Mikaiel
01-12-2010, 07:22 PM
HS :

http://str8hoops.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/lebron-james-high-school.jpg

03-04 :

http://www.takkle.com/thumbs/scale/max/468x351/photofiles/2007/03/0720/27698.jpg

04-05 :

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tTbulEYu7TU/RfMpXIIJ2zI/AAAAAAAAAak/ExKZyXvRPzs/s320/LBJ+mask.jpg

05-06 :

http://lebrontalk.com/content/feb06/lebron_all_star/lebron_all_star.jpg

06-07 :

http://blog.cleveland.com/startingblocks/2009/04/large_jamesgame5.jpg

07-08 :

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0311/nba_g_lebron_celtics_580.jpg

08-09 :

http://www.individualsole.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/lebron-james-all-star-2009-east.jpg

09-10 :

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/d4/fullj.c8dafbfc55e1b7bff8f6bbc772f22bcc/c8dafbfc55e1b7bff8f6bbc772f22bcc-getty-90043133ab021_cavs_warriors.jpg

What's so spectacular about that ? :confusedshrug:

InspiredLebowski
01-12-2010, 07:23 PM
http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/2009/news/11/12/lebron.jordan.ap/lebron_jordan.jpg
That's a great picture on so many levels. LBJ with the astonished look on his face, MJ sizing him up with the "so you're next eh?" look. The contrasting styles of the generations, hip hop vs business mogul. And is that Warren G in the grey jacket in back? Reggie Jackson's a rent-a-cop now?

Lebron's gone overboard with the ink though.

RaininThrees
01-12-2010, 07:56 PM
Honestly, I don't know what supplements they took (Bron and Howard) but they definitely took something crazy. I wouldn't be surprised if it was HGH or something.

OR they were both still very young when they came in the league and hadn't finished maturing (and still haven't, or just have... you don't stop growing until you're 25 or so).

NoGunzJustSkillz
01-12-2010, 07:59 PM
That's a great picture on so many levels. LBJ with the astonished look on his face, MJ sizing him up with the "so you're next eh?" look. The contrasting styles of the generations, hip hop vs business mogul. And is that Warren G in the grey jacket in back? Reggie Jackson's a rent-a-cop now?

Lebron's gone overboard with the ink though.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Abraham Lincoln
01-12-2010, 08:01 PM
You gotta love people that look at the size of one's upper arms and pretend as if it is a miraculous feat. Buff arms combined with the baggy jerseys of today will make one look much bigger than he really is. All this HGH & steroid crap is bull****.

http://www.mouthpiecesports.com/blogmedia/2009/02/lebron_james.jpg

BrentISballin
01-12-2010, 08:02 PM
lol at the skinny tards in here that don't know how to get big

Dizzle-2k7
01-12-2010, 08:06 PM
Im not saying nothin about nobody, but youre very naive and foolish if you think "using steroids = being big and muscular and a bodybuilder" etc...

some of the skinnest boxers, runners, gymnasts, baseball players, football players etc use performance enhancing drugs.. they help you recover faster, stay lean, etc...

stop assuming you have to look like Arnold to use roids.

lilbeastnani
01-12-2010, 08:11 PM
Does anyone ever wonder how NBA players go from these scrawny guys to these huge monsters? Get off your high horses. Not all NBA players are clean, not all NFL players are clean.. Athletes use illegal substances all the time, even your heroes.

GOBB
01-12-2010, 08:11 PM
I often joke about Bron using HGH. But his physical change is no different than many NBA players. Bron didnt go from puny to **** diesel overnight. It only seems that way because he's still a young dude. But he's been in the NBA how long now? NBA = elite bball league in the world (yes euros in the world). So you get the best of the best when it comes to training and docs. You also have the financial support to maintain a supplement diet which to the avg joe can be costly. You factor in work ethic into the equation and there is nothing surprising the dude is big. He was big in HS and he is big now.

Tmac, Kobe to name a few went from twigs to solid mofos. Some players have the perfect frames to develop. We all hear how Bron is a gym rat. Who is to say the same mentality doesnt carry in the gym room with weights, excersises and a diet? All it takes is discipline, granted easier said than done. But Bron hasnt been known to be a slacker.

I'll still joke about HGH usage but if Bron was a college football player. He'd look like everyone else (he is 6'9 that the only abnormal thing about him).

Abraham Lincoln
01-12-2010, 08:13 PM
http://www.dymatize.com/mivastore/graphics/00000002/Creatine_1000G.jpg


It's water weight.

GOBB
01-12-2010, 08:15 PM
Does anyone ever wonder how NBA players go from these scrawny guys to these huge monsters? Get off your high horses. Not all NBA players are clean, not all NFL players are clean.. Athletes use illegal substances all the time, even your heroes.

State of the art training facilities and it being 2010 makes this impossible? :oldlol:

And again its not overnight. They dont go from scrawny June 2009 to mammoths in Aug 2009. If Bron went from that HS photo to how he looks now in that span? You are probably onto something. It was a gradual process. Took years.

People marvelled at Bron size in HS. In hindsight how bigger was he vs Amare? :confusedshrug:

Stop the madness simpleton. :no:

RaininThrees
01-12-2010, 08:18 PM
Does anyone ever wonder how NBA players go from these scrawny guys to these huge monsters? Get off your high horses. Not all NBA players are clean, not all NFL players are clean.. Athletes use illegal substances all the time, even your heroes.

And the same can be said for you... chill out, and don't assume that every guy who looks "big" is on something. People would be naive to think that guys in the NBA don't use HGH or some other PED, but to accuse someone of something with absolutely no facts to back it up is ridiculous and irresponsible.

lilbeastnani
01-12-2010, 08:22 PM
I don't think it can be explained by creatine. I've taken creatine before and I ballooned up quick, and just one week of not working out and I shrunk back down. If that's what it was, when Lebron took a week off or got injured we'd see his size going down.

Mikaiel
01-12-2010, 08:43 PM
We all hear how Bron is a gym rat. Who is to say the same mentality doesnt carry in the gym room with weights, excersises and a diet?[/I]


This is sure to exasperate scrawny teenagers toiling in weight rooms the world over, but despite his bodybuilder's physique, James has never really lifted. At least not the way a normal human would to develop such musculature. (Think heavy weight, low reps, lots of grunting and Metallica.)

Rather, James began working out seriously only last June. "He just messed around in the weight room and got by on raw strength his first few years," says Cavs trainer Mike Mancias, who oversees all of James's conditioning work. Even now, James eschews what he calls "iron-man championship lifting," such as the bench press, for core exercises, dumbbells and, starting last summer, yoga -- not that he was an easy convert. "I had to start with poses he wouldn't think were too goofy, if you catch my drift," says Mancias. Still, there was James at a hotel in Los Angeles last summer, busting out some downward dog by the pool in front of his fellow guests.

That James has gained weight is as much a mystery to him as anyone else. He doesn't gulp protein shakes or pound down extra carbs, instead eating three square meals (such as oatmeal, chicken, salmon) prepared by his chef, with the occasional candy snack in between. "It's kind of crazy," James says. "My body's, like, reversed."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/chris_ballard/01/27/lebron.james/1.html

HylianNightmare
01-12-2010, 08:50 PM
HS :

http://str8hoops.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/lebron-james-high-school.jpg

03-04 :

http://www.takkle.com/thumbs/scale/max/468x351/photofiles/2007/03/0720/27698.jpg

04-05 :

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tTbulEYu7TU/RfMpXIIJ2zI/AAAAAAAAAak/ExKZyXvRPzs/s320/LBJ+mask.jpg

05-06 :

http://lebrontalk.com/content/feb06/lebron_all_star/lebron_all_star.jpg

06-07 :

http://blog.cleveland.com/startingblocks/2009/04/large_jamesgame5.jpg

07-08 :

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0311/nba_g_lebron_celtics_580.jpg

08-09 :

http://www.individualsole.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/lebron-james-all-star-2009-east.jpg

09-10 :

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/d4/fullj.c8dafbfc55e1b7bff8f6bbc772f22bcc/c8dafbfc55e1b7bff8f6bbc772f22bcc-getty-90043133ab021_cavs_warriors.jpg

What's so spectacular about that ? :confusedshrug:


yeah these guys get payed to work out and play basketball of course he got huge, look at him, look at dwight, melo etc etc.
also take into consideration that lots of these guys were so young coming into the elague they still could keep growing.


and lebron looks much better without those sleeves, eww

NoGunzJustSkillz
01-12-2010, 09:02 PM
Still, there was James at a hotel in Los Angeles last summer, busting out some downward dog by the pool in front of his fellow guests.
what does that even mean?

Mikaiel
01-12-2010, 09:05 PM
what does that even mean?

http://www.alaskaartguild.com/Yoga/images/5.jpg

kkling
01-12-2010, 09:09 PM
Ignorant ass people. Working out, eating healthy, etc. can go a long way. It does not take years and years to get big.

Magic Vinsanity
01-12-2010, 09:10 PM
People are retards, some spastics here actually think Rashard Lewis was taking steroids...Rashing f*cking Lewis, the skinniest guy in the league since Manute Bol's legs.

Please.

RaininThrees
01-12-2010, 09:16 PM
I don't think it can be explained by creatine. I've taken creatine before and I ballooned up quick, and just one week of not working out and I shrunk back down. If that's what it was, when Lebron took a week off or got injured we'd see his size going down.

Well, you obviously weren't working very hard. Or you don't/didn't know what creatine does prior to taking it.

Again, you're assuming he took something illegal. There's no evidence anywhere to suggest he has. any growth he's shown can be easily explained by maturation and work in the gym with a professional trainer.

Lyoto15
01-12-2010, 09:20 PM
I will tell you what a bodybuilding coach has told me. A man who has studied some sort of a medical/sports education in the states.


Every pro athlete, uses some sort of a drug ! It's all about HOW you use it.

And It's logical really...when you look at how a year for these guys looks like.

thejusman1
01-12-2010, 09:28 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/chris_ballard/01/27/lebron.james/1.html

Interesting. Lebron is just a freak of an athlete. A very rare number of people are able to do what he does, and that's why he's an all-star in the NBA and we're not.

lilbeastnani
01-13-2010, 01:22 AM
Well, you obviously weren't working very hard. Or you don't/didn't know what creatine does prior to taking it.

Again, you're assuming he took something illegal. There's no evidence anywhere to suggest he has. any growth he's shown can be easily explained by maturation and work in the gym with a professional trainer.
In this world are a lot of different drugs out there. Drugs that professional find out about from sources and aren't on any banned substance list. There were drugs in MLB that weren't banned in the early 2000's and then they were discovered by scientists in a lab and were later banned. To say that you don't think he or anyone else in the NBA has done it is your opinion. To say that it's not possible is just retarded on your part.

OneMoreSucka
01-13-2010, 01:31 AM
I heard he was shooting up boli with A-Rod right before the draft.

linzday
01-13-2010, 03:33 AM
they belong to two brand and two company
i love custom air force ones more

Maga_1
01-13-2010, 03:50 AM
In this world are a lot of different drugs out there. Drugs that professional find out about from sources and aren't on any banned substance list. There were drugs in MLB that weren't banned in the early 2000's and then they were discovered by scientists in a lab and were later banned. To say that you don't think he or anyone else in the NBA has done it is your opinion. To say that it's not possible is just retarded on your part.

MLB players need drugs for what? It's not a physical game like football or basketball :roll:

artificial
01-13-2010, 03:53 AM
*ahem* ... So any pics of Jordan and Lebron being nice to each other?

Brandon Roy
01-13-2010, 04:13 AM
Steroids DO NOT necessarily make someone bigger. What steroids do is speed up recovery time and give muscles incredible endurance. These two things would be desirable for any athlete. Muscle mass can be obtained with proper nutrition when added to an intense workout regimen.

Trust me, one of my teammates from my old high school basketball team used to take steroids. He and a bunch of his buddies.

I'm not accusing any NBA players of taking steroids, but I don't think it's far-fetched to think that some of them may have taken steroids or PEDs.

YAWN
01-13-2010, 04:15 AM
MLB players need drugs for what? It's not a physical game like football or basketball :roll:

they play 162 regular season games. then you add in spring training, and post season and dudes are out there most of the year. its grueling to get out there for consecutive days and play for 3hrs. the "not a physical game" argument that people use to discredit mlb is moronic.

Johnni Gade
01-13-2010, 05:52 AM
Lebron really grew up to be big huh.

Maga_1
01-13-2010, 06:20 AM
they play 162 regular season games. then you add in spring training, and post season and dudes are out there most of the year. its grueling to get out there for consecutive days and play for 3hrs. the "not a physical game" argument that people use to discredit mlb is moronic.

162? Really?
I really don't like baseball, but that's impressive.

xtn5021
01-13-2010, 06:55 AM
How did this thread go from pictures of LeBron and Jordan together. To talking about how big LeBron has gotten and his supposed use of HGH or Steroids... Just a thought.

EricForman
01-13-2010, 06:59 AM
The steroids bit gets so old. Some people are just stupid.


agreed. especially since other sports have had so many steroid scandals yet bball has had very few (if any). it's silly for that dude to post two pics of lebron from 2002 and and 2009 and then make a big deal about physical change. britney spears went through a big physical change from 02 to 09 too. :oldlol:

Floppy
01-13-2010, 07:03 AM
It's beyond me how people can be so naive and believe that a sport like basketball that has laughable drug tests and where you make millions of $ is clean while a sport like cycling is totally infested by drug abuse despite the extreme testing.
The top cyclists who actually get caught only get caught because of investigative police work and not because of drug tests.

Only stupid people get caught by drug tests either cause of overdosing or using cheap drugs. If you make enough money to afford designer drugs you will never get caught.

flipogb
01-13-2010, 07:21 AM
a baseball player getting an advantage in being able to hit a ball compared to a basketball player's overall game is so different. By that i mean I honestly wouldnt even care if we find out a lot of NBA players are using it . There are so many factors to being a good NBA player that no amount of steroids can turn a retarded Lebron sized player to an all-star

EricForman
01-13-2010, 07:32 AM
How did this thread go from pictures of LeBron and Jordan together. To talking about how big LeBron has gotten and his supposed use of HGH or Steroids... Just a thought.


its ISH. every thread with kobe immediately turns into jordan vs kobe. every thread with jordan always turns into Roundball making a fool of himself telling everyone how Jordan wasn't that important and how Pip woulda won more rings with others.

Cermet
01-13-2010, 09:36 AM
Damn, LeBron got huge rather quickly.....

Dude steroids.... I mean you just CANT be that big that fast and that athletic in the same time. Hes almost inhuman. I could probably bet that hes using some kind of substance.

lilbeastnani
01-13-2010, 09:44 AM
Steroids DO NOT necessarily make someone bigger. What steroids do is speed up recovery time and give muscles incredible endurance. These two things would be desirable for any athlete. Muscle mass can be obtained with proper nutrition when added to an intense workout regimen.

Trust me, one of my teammates from my old high school basketball team used to take steroids. He and a bunch of his buddies.

I'm not accusing any NBA players of taking steroids, but I don't think it's far-fetched to think that some of them may have taken steroids or PEDs.

Exactly... like, no offense to anyone here but i'm doubting most of the people who made stupid comments in here really know much about what these things can do. I had a friend (not a professional or anything) that started taking HGH when he was 18. He was about 6'3 180lbs when he started. He's now 22 and 240lbs (mostly muscle) And no it doesn't make you macho man without some heavy lifting but it does help you to lift heavier weights, do more reps, and then add that in with supplements and it speeds up the recovery time as well.

Is it possible that all these guys just train really hard and use regular supplementation? Sure. But I wouldn't at all be surprised if they discovered that some have done it in a dishonest way.

Cermet
01-13-2010, 09:56 AM
Exactly... like, no offense to anyone here but i'm doubting most of the people who made stupid comments in here really know much about what these things can do. I had a friend (not a professional or anything) that started taking HGH when he was 18. He was about 6'3 180lbs when he started. He's now 22 and 240lbs (mostly muscle) And no it doesn't make you macho man without some heavy lifting but it does help you to lift heavier weights, do more reps, and then add that in with supplements and it speeds up the recovery time as well.

Is it possible that all these guys just train really hard and use regular supplementation? Sure. But I wouldn't at all be surprised if they discovered that some have done it in a dishonest way.

There are different steroids and substances so some do what you told and some do help to grow some muscles. Well basically its air. Thats why when Lebron is old he will be wrinkled will looke like this
http://tsanda.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/nfsquir.jpg

kumquat
01-13-2010, 10:09 AM
Looks pretty natural to me. Check out Shaq when he was in high school. Shaq and Dwight both have the frame to put on muscle. If you do the right weight training and eat the right foods anybody can get huge.
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009/0121/rise_g_shaq_400.jpg

PistonsFan#21
01-13-2010, 10:18 AM
Exactly... like, no offense to anyone here but i'm doubting most of the people who made stupid comments in here really know much about what these things can do. I had a friend (not a professional or anything) that started taking HGH when he was 18. He was about 6'3 180lbs when he started. He's now 22 and 240lbs (mostly muscle) And no it doesn't make you macho man without some heavy lifting but it does help you to lift heavier weights, do more reps, and then add that in with supplements and it speeds up the recovery time as well.

Is it possible that all these guys just train really hard and use regular supplementation? Sure. But I wouldn't at all be surprised if they discovered that some have done it in a dishonest way.

So why would you suspect Lebron James of all the NBA players to take steroids? He went from being 18 years old 240lbs to 25 years old and 265lbs. Thats an increase of 25lbs in 7 years which is a gain of less than 4 pounds per year. Whats so incredible in that??

Consider in the fact that he wasn't fully developped at 18 years old and that he didnt work out as hard in high school as he does now and those results are totally believable.

lilbeastnani
01-13-2010, 10:23 AM
So why would you suspect Lebron James of all the NBA players to take steroids? He went from being 18 years old 240lbs to 25 years old and 265lbs. Thats an increase of 25lbs in 7 years which is a gain of less than 4 pounds per year. Whats so incredible in that??

Consider in the fact that he wasn't fully developped at 18 years old and that he didnt work out as hard in high school as he does now and those results are totally believable.
I would even go as far as to say it's possible that he took some substances in highschool to become that size in the first place. How many 6'8 240 lb 18 year old monsters do you see coming out of HS. Let alone someone that size who plays basketball, a sport that requires a lot of cardio over the course of a season.

PistonsFan#21
01-13-2010, 10:35 AM
I would even go as far as to say it's possible that he took some substances in highschool to become that size in the first place. How many 6'8 240 lb 18 year old monsters do you see coming out of HS. Let alone someone that size who plays basketball, a sport that requires a lot of cardio over the course of a season.

That is why he was called a freak of nature type of athlete...Was Shaq using Steroids in high school too? He was 7 feet tall and was in the 280lbs range. What about Dwight Howard? He was like 6'9" at 260lbs. I have seen plenty of guys 6'7" or 6'8" in high school that weighed more than 240lbs. Most of them were centers though. They didnt had Lebron shooting or dribbling skills or even his athleticism

Not everyone is born to be 5'9" 145lbs.

HylianNightmare
01-13-2010, 10:41 AM
they belong to two brand and two company
i love custom air force ones more

obvious troll is obvious.

and this thread turned real quick from Lebron and Jordan
to
lebron and steroids

lilbeastnani
01-13-2010, 12:13 PM
That is why he was called a freak of nature type of athlete...Was Shaq using Steroids in high school too? He was 7 feet tall and was in the 280lbs range. What about Dwight Howard? He was like 6'9" at 260lbs. I have seen plenty of guys 6'7" or 6'8" in high school that weighed more than 240lbs. Most of them were centers though. They didnt had Lebron shooting or dribbling skills or even his athleticism

Not everyone is born to be 5'9" 145lbs.
But when you look at Shaq, his build and his frame was already huge even back in HS... A combination of eating a **** load of food and weight training got him to where he's at. He put on fat and muscle so it's no surprise or question how he got to his size.

Bron on the other hand was a big guy at 6'8, but and yes he was naturally athletic, no doubt. But, putting on that much pure muscle is somewhat questionable to me. I've never seen a case of someone filling out so much from 18-25.. Yes, it's a long span of time but look at how quickly my dude just jumped through puberty upon entering the NBA. From a somewhat skinny (compared to now) no facial hair, skinny face and bone structure to this beast that we see today.
http://quizilla.teennick.com/user_images/N/nelly25/1059119795_mes_030626.jpg

http://theurbandaily.com/files//web/ione/ud/files/2009/06/lebron-james.jpg

http://www.fantasysportsday.com/files/fantasysportsday/imagecache/page/images/6641.jpg

lilgregoden
01-13-2010, 02:57 PM
What I don't understand is how he was able to put on so much muscle if he never took weight lifting seriously. I mean he has to be burning up calories constantly with all the basketball training, I refuse to believe he was not hitting the gym, it doesn't make sense.

thejumpa
01-13-2010, 03:04 PM
Bulking up 15-20 pounds over 7 years with all of being muscle shouldn't be that hard for LeBron. Hell, it shouldn't be hard for most people. Forget all that 275 talk...dude is like 260 max. If anyone believes he doesn't take weightlififting serious should check their head.

That being said, I wanna see more pics with him and MJ. Kinda interesting that we never see them together.

kkling
01-13-2010, 03:07 PM
What about Dwight Howard? He was skinny in High School, and now is bigger than Lebron. Do you all think he takes roids as well?

GOBB
01-13-2010, 03:28 PM
Bron on the other hand was a big guy at 6'8, but and yes he was naturally athletic, no doubt. But, putting on that much pure muscle is somewhat questionable to me. I've never seen a case of someone filling out so much from 18-25.. Yes, it's a long span of time but look at how quickly my dude just jumped through puberty upon entering the NBA. From a somewhat skinny (compared to now) no facial hair, skinny face and bone structure to this beast that we see today

You see big arms and say "cheater! suspect!" :roll:

http://www.grafxhq.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/lebronnoshirt.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_YODg65nll_o/SYDTbTLvrbI/AAAAAAABa2Q/7MUzUsfbFH0/s800/lebron-james-tattoo-611-chest-lion-small.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VJbFByjbFEA/SHQuTnslGDI/AAAAAAAAADU/oSRYuaBdLUs/s400/Lebron%2BJames.jpg


Kids in college football make Bron size look normal. And you're complaining over a progression of a players body in the professional ranks?



Look up USC Safety Taylor Mays.

thejumpa
01-13-2010, 03:35 PM
Taylor Mays doesn't make LeBron look like anything but a giant. He is giving up 5-6 inches and about 30 pounds or so (depending on who you talk to). Definitely a big safety....but I don't see the comparison.

kkling
01-13-2010, 03:37 PM
Taylor Mays doesn't make LeBron look like anything but a giant. He is giving up 5-6 inches and about 30 pounds or so (depending on who you talk to). Definitely a big safety....but I don't see the comparison.

:hammerhead: You have to be joking.

thejumpa
01-13-2010, 03:39 PM
:hammerhead: You have to be joking.

Explain?

OmniStrife
01-13-2010, 03:44 PM
The roid claims are retated... Just because he works his ass off a few hours daily with the finest traines unlike you who just sit on your asses and post **** on ISH and actually is getting ripped and not fat like you doesnt mean he uses drugs!

he's a pro ATHELETE get it?

And besides, who needs drugs? you don't need em to be as big as Bron. you need them only if youre planning to get TWICE as big.
Wanna be like Lebron? Start camping the gym, do **** loads of cardio and don't forget this:

http://optimum-whey-protein.com/Optimum-Nutrition-100-Whey-Protein-Gold-Standard.jpg

GOBB
01-13-2010, 03:52 PM
http://jbum.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341bf70753ef01116898c3fb970c-800wi

http://www.mensfitness.com/images/mf/209807/15296.jpg


http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/169641/taylormays.jpg


http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u153/andrewpauljones/cush.jpg

Taylor Mays ladies and gents. Not just arms like Bron has. Chest, abs.

Bodin
01-13-2010, 03:56 PM
HS :

http://str8hoops.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/lebron-james-high-school.jpg

03-04 :

http://www.takkle.com/thumbs/scale/max/468x351/photofiles/2007/03/0720/27698.jpg

04-05 :

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tTbulEYu7TU/RfMpXIIJ2zI/AAAAAAAAAak/ExKZyXvRPzs/s320/LBJ+mask.jpg

05-06 :

http://lebrontalk.com/content/feb06/lebron_all_star/lebron_all_star.jpg

06-07 :

http://blog.cleveland.com/startingblocks/2009/04/large_jamesgame5.jpg

07-08 :

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0311/nba_g_lebron_celtics_580.jpg

08-09 :

http://www.individualsole.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/lebron-james-all-star-2009-east.jpg

09-10 :

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/d4/fullj.c8dafbfc55e1b7bff8f6bbc772f22bcc/c8dafbfc55e1b7bff8f6bbc772f22bcc-getty-90043133ab021_cavs_warriors.jpg

What's so spectacular about that ? :confusedshrug:

This. Gaining 30lbs of muscle in 7 years isn't that much considering how much pro atheletes work out. Realistically if the average person did everything right, he could gain 1 or 2lbs per week of lean muscle mass.

InspiredLebowski
01-13-2010, 03:58 PM
This thread's getting homoerotic

Bodin
01-13-2010, 04:03 PM
What I don't understand is how he was able to put on so much muscle if he never took weight lifting seriously. I mean he has to be burning up calories constantly with all the basketball training, I refuse to believe he was not hitting the gym, it doesn't make sense.

Are you kidding me? You make it sound like LeBron never ate anything. If he was starving himself he would've looked like a twig.

That's the amount of muscle you'd expect from someone playing ball day and night. Besides, coming out of high school he isn't even that big given his height.

lilgregoden
01-13-2010, 04:08 PM
What i mean is that playing basketball wouldn't have gotten him that big but rather lifting, which he says he never took seriously and thats what i dont believe

kkling
01-13-2010, 05:18 PM
What i mean is that playing basketball wouldn't have gotten him that big but rather lifting, which he says he never took seriously and thats what i dont believe

Taken seriously to a Pro is probably different than what an average person thinks.

lilbeastnani
01-13-2010, 07:26 PM
Ok what a dumb argument... Are there people out there who don't think that at least 30-50% of NFL football players are taking illegal substances?

lilbeastnani
01-13-2010, 07:34 PM
This. Gaining 30lbs of muscle in 7 years isn't that much considering how much pro atheletes work out. Realistically if the average person did everything right, he could gain 1 or 2lbs per week of lean muscle mass.
And that's the other thing. People keep saying 30 lbs in 7 years as if he gained an even 4+ pounds per year to get there. Most of his weight gain seems to have occured between year 1 and year 2.

Year one:
http://quizilla.teennick.com/user_images/N/nelly25/1059119795_mes_030626.jpg

Year two:
http://images.forbes.com/media/lists/53/2005/IIOW.jpg

The Ownage
01-13-2010, 07:51 PM
Don't people on ISH claim they can bench/squat/deadlift alot or just lift heavy weights in general? From what I saw on some OTC weightlifting topic many people say they could lift alot of weight. Now you're claiming that LeBron cant get big within 7 years? I suggest some people go to the bodybuilding forum and see what just two years can do for alot of people.

C-Webb4
01-13-2010, 08:00 PM
Don't people on ISH claim they can bench/squat/deadlift alot or just lift heavy weights in general? From what I saw on some OTC weightlifting topic many people say they could lift alot of weight. Now you're claiming that LeBron cant get big within 7 years? I suggest some people go to the bodybuilding forum and see what just two years can do for alot of people.
Yes, but you're failing to realize, those people are people who are dedicated solely to weight training. Puttin on that much muscle would be an incredibly difficult thing to do with the amount of cardio a pro NBA player has to put in over the course of an 82 game season + playoffs.

dirkdiggler41
01-13-2010, 08:05 PM
Corey Maggete

http://www.enquirer.com/bearcats/img/photos/1998/11/112998duke_421x500.jpg
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0828/ncb_g_cmaggette1_400.jpg

http://www.all-nba-all-basketball.com/images/COREY_MAGGETTE1.jpg

The Ownage
01-13-2010, 08:11 PM
Yes, but you're failing to realize, those people are people who are dedicated solely to weight training. Puttin on that much muscle would be an incredibly difficult thing to do with the amount of cardio a pro NBA player has to put in over the course of an 82 game season + playoffs.
True but I'm pretty sure they get adequate rest aswell, over 8+ plus sleep. And with the right nutrition (good amount of protein) I don't think it should be very hard to gain that much weight in 7 years. Plus LeBron is a freak of nature so that kinda helps him out too. Why am I defending LeBron so much :lol

C-Webb4
01-13-2010, 08:24 PM
Well to clarify my stance, I personally don't think he took any steroids, however I wouldn't be surprised to find out he did.

Brandon Roy
01-13-2010, 08:28 PM
You can totally tell that he's on steroids. Just look at the size of his butt (no homo). It looks so round and smackable (no homo). I'm sure his balls shrank, too. I really want to see them (no homo). But imagine sitting on shaft (no homo). I bet he doesn't need steroids for that! (no homo)

xtn5021
01-13-2010, 08:59 PM
its ISH. every thread with kobe immediately turns into jordan vs kobe. every thread with jordan always turns into Roundball making a fool of himself telling everyone how Jordan wasn't that important and how Pip woulda won more rings with others.

True. This thread is useless. I just saw a picture of Corey Maggette...

GOBB
01-13-2010, 09:20 PM
Ok what a dumb argument

Thats all you're proving in here. Good job.