the michael jordan we all refuse to believe...

[halffttime]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiWZ6sLhMFM

it's a cold world, filled with cruel people.. there are no exceptions.. :(

[YAWN]

old news, and everyone knows and accepts that mj was a douche.

[Andrei89]

lol MJ sounds like such a douche

[kurple]

I still love MJ as a basketball player

[xtn5021]

I've been knowing that Jordan was a douche. But Pretty good ball player imo.

[wally_world]

Punkass

If he gets ran over by a car, i wouldnt even feel sorry for him

[Alhazred]

Chamillionare? Really?

[Manute for Ever!]

If Chamillionare said it, it must be true... :rolleyes:

[U got Served]

Pretty anyone with money/celebrity status is a douche. That's why I dont look at the NBA person, I look at the player.

[kkling]

It is well known that MJ is a huge douche bag.

[bigkingsfan]

Someone send him a "cool story bro."

[RaceBannana]

Pretty anyone with money/celebrity status is a douche. That's why I dont look at the NBA person, I look at the player.

ding, ding, we got a winner...
Money, power and success doesn't exactly make you nicer..

[Meticode]

Pretty anyone with money/celebrity status is a douche. That's why I dont look at the NBA person, I look at the player.

Tim Duncan a douche?

[NBASTATMAN]

old news, and everyone knows and accepts that mj was a douche.


Agree... And I believe Chamiwhatever's story... MJ is such a dickhead...

[Lakers13]

MJ was, and still is a douche. But we already all knew that.

[haterofhaters]

old news, and everyone knows and accepts that mj was a douche.
pretty much. this isn't news to anyone.

[Andrei89]

Pretty anyone with money/celebrity status is a douche. That's why I dont look at the NBA person, I look at the player.

chris paul is a douche?

[spursdynasty420]

chris paul is a douche?


yah we all knew that from all the **** he talks in game all the immature things he does in game the trash talk the tripping everything.

[xcesswee]

yah we all knew that from all the **** he talks in game all the immature things he does in game the trash talk the tripping everything.

CP3 may be a douche on the court in your eyes, but he is far from a douche off the court. I'm a huge MJ fan since i was a little kid, but even I know that MJ is a jackass.

[PistonsFan#21]

No one of you can say who is and who isn't a douche off the court. LOL at some of you talking as if they spend some times hanging out with NBA players

[Disaprine]

Iam not really that surprised, but damn he told chamillionaire to **** off :oldlol:

[Micku]

Yeah, it was a pretty messed up thing that MJ did right there if it was true. It was posted before a few months back.

[nbastatus]

Luckily I don't buy any of his shoes anymore. :ohwell:

[shadow]

this a surprise to anyone?

[Soundwave]

Newsflash -- most successful people could be considered "douches". Why? Because they wouldn't be successful in the first place if they were "milk and cookies" all the time.

The other thing is people need to get over themselves (honestly) when someone refuses to sign an autograph/take a photo with them.

Just because you bought their sneakers or watch their TV show or go to their movies doesn't entitle you to invade their private time/private space even if it's just for an autograph.

You may say signing an autograph or taking a photo is no big deal, but you don't have to deal with it *every* *single* *time* you step out of the door, and I'd be willing to bet after about the 100,000th time, you would start drawing boundaries too.

And Chamillionaire is full of sh-t ... he says straight up at the beginning of the video he doesn't go up to people or bother them for stuff, and that he doesn't like it when people do it him. Yet 10 seconds later he's talking about how he walks up to Jordan who's at a private table and asks for a photo. Gee ... contradict yourself much?

[oh the horror]

Newsflash -- most successful people could be considered "douches". Why? Because they wouldn't be successful in the first place if they were "milk and cookies" all the time.

The other thing is people need to get over themselves (honestly) when someone refuses to sign an autograph/take a photo with them.

Just because you bought their sneakers or watch their TV show or go to their movies doesn't entitle you to invade their private time/private space even if it's just for an autograph.

You may say signing an autograph or taking a photo is no big deal, but you don't have to deal with it *every* *single* *time* you step out of the door, and I'd be willing to bet after about the 100,000th time, you would start drawing boundaries too.


Yes, but in this case, Mike was being a jackass.

[bdreason]

I'm pretty sure most people accept the fact that MJ is a dickhead, and always has been.

Who cares?


The truth is, we don't really know what any of these guys are like off the court.

[Soundwave]

Yes, but in this case, Mike was being a jackass.

Good. Sometimes you have to be a "jackass", to let people know that they can't always have a piece of you.

I like the fact that MJ wasn't a "nice guy". F-ck that, I like that he has an edge to his personality and isn't some cardboard Disney-friendly figure in real life.

If he was, he wouldn't be half the player he was.

People boo-hoo Jordan for ripping on Will Purdue and Scottie Pippen and what not (oh sob) -- you wanna know what? I seriously doubt the Bulls would've become the team they were if Jordan didn't have that exact persona.

[puppychili]

You should never meet your heroes.

[Sanity]

Tim Duncan a douche?

I was at a Spurs game and after it was over Tim was outside signing autographs for a some kids. His wife was with him and he signed about 2 autographs then told her "lets go" and grabbed her by her right breast and pulled her his direction all aggressively. I was like "wtf was that".

[spursdynasty420]

I was at a Spurs game and after it was over Tim was outside signing autographs for a some kids. His wife was with him and he signed about 2 autographs then told her "lets go" and grabbed her by her right breast and pulled her his direction all aggressively. I was like "wtf was that".

i call bs lol

[Sanity]

i call bs lol

I'm for real. It was right before they moved out of the Alamodome.

[Thunderstruck]

It's no secret that Michael is a jerk. Doesn't make him any less of a basketball player.

[JustinJDW]

Wow, this is the first I have heard about MJ always being a douche. Hmm, I guess money, power and fame does that to a man.

[Micku]

Were there other stories that label MJ as a jerk?

[Sinox]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTNcAemuc2A
Ichiro Meets MJ
MJ Looks like a nice guy in this video
Go to 3:46
This was 1996. Ichiro was 22, still playing in Japan and he wasn't even famous.
MJ treated him well and didn't even joke about his sweater.But of course, this was on camera so he had to maintain his composure.

[Disaprine]

I was at a Spurs game and after it was over Tim was outside signing autographs for a some kids. His wife was with him and he signed about 2 autographs then told her "lets go" and grabbed her by her right breast and pulled her his direction all aggressively. I was like "wtf was that".
:roll:

[butch mcrae]

chris paul is a douche?

Punching someone in the balls is a pretty douchey move.

[Swaggin916]

I bet Mike was probably drunk and was like... who this little *****? :lol

Ya know cus he listens to that old school

Look everyone has their douchy moments... but yea it's pretty well known that Mike is just a plain douche.

[Lakas Fan Yo]

Jordan always seemed like a ***** to me. He's the exact type that will fight you only under his conditions.

[Lakas Fan Yo]

Good. Sometimes you have to be a "jackass", to let people know that they can't always have a piece of you.

I like the fact that MJ wasn't a "nice guy". F-ck that, I like that he has an edge to his personality and isn't some cardboard Disney-friendly figure in real life.

If he was, he wouldn't be half the player he was.

People boo-hoo Jordan for ripping on Will Purdue and Scottie Pippen and what not (oh sob) -- you wanna know what? I seriously doubt the Bulls would've become the team they were if Jordan didn't have that exact persona.

You fail to grasp that the Bulls team was full of idiots. If Jordan would have tried his antics with some people he would have been knocked the F out during practice. He always had to have mentally weak losers around him so that he could bully everyone.

[imdaman99]

I'm for real. It was right before they moved out of the Alamodome.
pics of tim duncan's wife? :lol

[PistonsFan#21]

pics of tim duncan's wife? :lol

http://www.hoopsvibe.com/IMG/jpg/4/Tim_and_Amy_Duncan.jpg

[Killer_Instinct]

Not true that Jordan is an asshole. He's a stand up guy. He's such a saint that he may be taking time out of his busy schedule to comfort Tiger's wife. Don't know about anyone else, but in my eyes, Mike is the perfect role model.

http://www.mediatakeout.com/2010/38197-wtf_michael_jordan_is_trying_to_holla_at_tiger_woo ds_ex-wife_elin_details_inside.html

[TheTruth11]

Newsflash -- most successful people could be considered "douches". Why? Because they wouldn't be successful in the first place if they were "milk and cookies" all the time.

The other thing is people need to get over themselves (honestly) when someone refuses to sign an autograph/take a photo with them.

Just because you bought their sneakers or watch their TV show or go to their movies doesn't entitle you to invade their private time/private space even if it's just for an autograph.

You may say signing an autograph or taking a photo is no big deal, but you don't have to deal with it *every* *single* *time* you step out of the door, and I'd be willing to bet after about the 100,000th time, you would start drawing boundaries too.

And Chamillionaire is full of sh-t ... he says straight up at the beginning of the video he doesn't go up to people or bother them for stuff, and that he doesn't like it when people do it him. Yet 10 seconds later he's talking about how he walks up to Jordan who's at a private table and asks for a photo. Gee ... contradict yourself much?

Excellent post. I totally agree with you. And what Chamillionaire is not saying but what is crystal clear from reading thru the lines, is that Cam bought a jersey, and he thought that because he bought a jersey at the auction, he was going to be entitled to special treatment from MJ. And MJ was like... "get tha **** out of here wit that!"

And it hurt Cams feelings. Cam was the jackass in this instance. And let me tell you, I have seen MJ hold court in a club here in Chicago. And the dude was cool. Most people (except some chicks) just let him and his boys be. Let him do his thing... chill... chill with Champaign chillin on the table. Smokin cigars. You know.... how MJ likes to do it. And like I said, women would come over to their table but the dudes just let him be. Not jockin like Cam was.

............

[Splitz77]

I love michael Jordan as the player, but could care less for him as a person, cause he dont care about no one but him self. all rich people are like that.

[Timmy D for MVP]

MJ is a jerk, but I don't think it's always intentional. I think he has a fierce competative personality and is an intese guy which can obviously make him come off jerky.

As for guys signing autoggraphs or something after the game you have to realize that every single night after every single game superstars get like a million people wanting autographs or something so they have to cut people off. I've been a victim of this many times.

[Samurai Swoosh]

Not that its a total excuse but MJ was probably waisted.

MJ is a person who can be an ass ... but a grown man came off like a D 1ck ryder to him and at the time MJ didn't want to deal with him.

No big loss.

[Samurai Swoosh]

I was at a Spurs game and after it was over Tim was outside signing autographs for a some kids. His wife was with him and he signed about 2 autographs then told her "lets go" and grabbed her by her right breast and pulled her his direction all aggressively. I was like "wtf was that".
I've seen the man in your avatar have a woman snap his picture as he was walking off set, and right in front of her husband standing a few feet away called her a "f ucking stupid b itch"

:oldlol:

[Timmy D for MVP]

You know what? Mike's image is interesting because he really had an image that the media created and not him you know? Like he stayed out of the light as much as possible and it was the media and us that put together this picture of his image. Since he is a hero to many of us it was positive.

Tiger I thought was the same. Then we found out dude likes to party. Now this image that WE built even though he is clearly an intense guy (though more loose and off going off the course) is torn down.

[GP_20]

Am I the only one who sees nothing wrong with what he did? It's Michael Jordan, he can do whatever he wants to do and it's okay.

[TheTruth11]

Not that its a total excuse but MJ was probably waisted.

MJ is a person who can be an ass ... but a grown man came off like a D 1ck ryder to him and at the time MJ didn't want to deal with him.

No big loss.

Thats exactly what it was. MJ does not like brother's jockin while he is gettin his drink on. Chicks can do that all day. But in that setting, he wants nothing to do with dudes. And can you blame him?

That's what it was plus Cam's feeling like he should be given special treatment for buying that jersey at auction. All of it rubbed MJ the wrong way.

[Micku]

Excellent post. I totally agree with you. And what Chamillionaire is not saying but what is crystal clear from reading thru the lines, is that Cam bought a jersey, and he thought that because he bought a jersey at the auction, he was going to be entitled to special treatment from MJ. And MJ was like... "get tha **** out of here wit that!"


I think you're missing the point a little with Cam. He said the way MJ blew him off surprised him, not that he declined him an picture with him. MJ was rather rude and it is so unlike how he saw him in interviews and other stuff. He could've just say "Sorry man. I don't feel like giving pictures right now" and that would be all. Instead he said, "Hell naw! I'm not taking a picture with no n!&&@!" And just a few moments before he was taking pictures with some girls.

But yeah, we don't know what happen. I don't know if there's been other stories about him being a jerk.

[oh the horror]

I dont get it....did some of you even bother to listen to the story? Its not like Chamillionare came out of nowhere asking MJ to take pics while MJ was scratching his balls. Dude was already TAKING PICTURES with other people.


This is at a fu*king charity event, where everyone there is probably pretty well off. This isnt a joe blow house party where your average dude is just walking around being star struck. Chamillionare is pretty paid too.


Fact is, you can simply say "no"


MJ doing "whatever he wants" got his ass in trouble once before.


If you walk around in life, thinking you can just do whatever you want, be prepared for someone to pull your card sometime. There is no excuse to be demoralizing, and outrageous rude to anyone.

[Swaggin916]

I love michael Jordan as the player, but could care less for him as a person, cause he dont care about no one but him self. all rich people are like that.

That's not true at all but if it helps you sleep at night....

[poido123]

I think you're missing the point a little with Cam. He said the way MJ blew him off surprised him, not that he declined him an picture with him. MJ was rather rude and it is so unlike how he saw him in interviews and other stuff. He could've just say "Sorry man. I don't feel like giving pictures right now" and that would be all. Instead he said, "Hell naw! I'm not taking a picture with no n!&&@!" And just a few moments before he was taking pictures with some girls.

But yeah, we don't know what happen. I don't know if there's been other stories about him being a jerk.

Maybe he dislikes chamillionaire's music? :confusedshrug:

Jordan is human, and in every human they have their bad moments, and to tell you the truth, unless you want to hang out with the guy and be his friend, who cares about what he's like as a person...

[HighFlyer23]

Not true that Jordan is an asshole. He's a stand up guy. He's such a saint that he may be taking time out of his busy schedule to comfort Tiger's wife. Don't know about anyone else, but in my eyes, Mike is the perfect role model.

http://www.mediatakeout.com/2010/38197-wtf_michael_jordan_is_trying_to_holla_at_tiger_woo ds_ex-wife_elin_details_inside.html


get them cataracts removed n|gga :lol

[Splitz77]

[/b]

That's not true at all but if it helps you sleep at night....


I've met a good amount of famous/rich people and every one of them has had this cocky aurora around them.

[Soundwave]

You fail to grasp that the Bulls team was full of idiots. If Jordan would have tried his antics with some people he would have been knocked the F out during practice. He always had to have mentally weak losers around him so that he could bully everyone.

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that.

[zabuza666]

Not true that Jordan is an asshole. He's a stand up guy. He's such a saint that he may be taking time out of his busy schedule to comfort Tiger's wife. Don't know about anyone else, but in my eyes, Mike is the perfect role model.

http://www.mediatakeout.com/2010/38197-wtf_michael_jordan_is_trying_to_holla_at_tiger_woo ds_ex-wife_elin_details_inside.html

That is so ****ing dog if true.

[El Seano]

Chamillionaire is a surprisingly good story teller.

[Floppy]

Wow, this is the first I have heard about MJ always being a douche. Hmm, I guess money, power and fame does that to a man.
Yes, since that Cham video MJ's always been a jerk and everybody knew it according to ish.

He's a multi-millionaire who's dad was killed for 50 bucks. God forbid he isn't all cuddly anymore and frustrated with life.

[Glide2keva]

Thats exactly what it was. MJ does not like brother's jockin while he is gettin his drink on. Chicks can do that all day. But in that setting, he wants nothing to do with dudes. And can you blame him?

That's what it was plus Cam's feeling like he should be given special treatment for buying that jersey at auction. All of it rubbed MJ the wrong way.


To quote Ice Cube "get off my dick ***** and tell yo ***** to come here"

[Alhazred]

You fail to grasp that the Bulls team was full of idiots. If Jordan would have tried his antics with some people he would have been knocked the F out during practice. He always had to have mentally weak losers around him so that he could bully everyone.

Dennis Rodman was mentally weak? Phail.

[All Net]

Someone send him a "cool story bro."

http://yeah-hi.com/files/cool-story-bro.jpg

[guado]

Dennis Rodman was mentally weak? Phail.


maybe he's referring to the time he had the rifle and pondered suicide?

[Alhazred]

maybe he's referring to the time he had the rifle and pondered suicide?

Being suicidal and being easily bullied don't necessarily go hand in hand.

[guado]

Being suicidal and being easily bullied don't necessarily go hand in hand.


sorry, sarcasm doesn't translate very well

maybe i should've put one of these

:confusedshrug:

[Alhazred]

sorry, sarcasm doesn't translate very well

maybe i should've put one of these

:confusedshrug:


I suppose this guy was mentally weak too, then?

http://ohandanotherthing.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/thompsoncor460.jpg

Also, why didn't Shaq bully him around in LA the next year, if Dennis was so easy to boss around?

To top it all off, that incident happened in 1993, two years before Jordan and Dennis played together.

[guado]

I suppose this guy was mentally weak too, then?

http://ohandanotherthing.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/thompsoncor460.jpg

Also, why didn't Shaq bully him around in LA the next year, if Dennis was so easy to boss around?

To top it all off, that incident happened in 1993, two years before Jordan and Dennis played together.


sarcasm.

dont' take it to heart.

i don't think you understood me

[Alhazred]

sarcasm.

dont' take it to heart.

i don't think you understood me

Probably not, sorry. Just kind of edgy right now.

EDIT: Yeah, I just kind of skimmed your posts, my bad. Just have crap going on right now, non-ISH related.

[Lebron23]

Not true that Jordan is an asshole. He's a stand up guy. He's such a saint that he may be taking time out of his busy schedule to comfort Tiger's wife. Don't know about anyone else, but in my eyes, Mike is the perfect role model.

http://www.mediatakeout.com/2010/38197-wtf_michael_jordan_is_trying_to_holla_at_tiger_woo ds_ex-wife_elin_details_inside.html

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[EricForman]

isn't it funny most of the people getting all worked up are laker fans?

listen, jordan is a prick. this has been konwn for years. in a sense, it should be expected--you dont become the goat without being a stone cold killer who wnats to smash everyone in his way.

his hall of fame speech summed him up better than this video ever could. :oldlol: at laker fans jumping on this thread when this is not old only news, but this isnt even the best "jordan is a prick" story. there are ten better ones.

btw, why is there a need for this though?

i mean, do jordan fans argue hes a nice and standup guy? we dont, right. so what are you laker/kobe fans making a scene for? you guys really wanna get into personal lives? forgot what kobe did?

[TheTruth11]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Everyone has a limit. Places where they don't want to be hounded for pictures or autographs. And for MJ, one of the few places where he does not like to be bothered by dudes is when he is out with his boys, at the club, getting his drink on. And like I said before, that rule does not apply to women.

Further complicating things is MJ likely didn't know who Cam was. Combined being fooked up from drinking with the fact that MJ listens to R & B, and MJ just saw dude as a guy breaking the unwritten "man rules" about not approaching celebrity type brothers when hanging with friends while getting their party on.

If this had been at store or something on a Monday afternoon or something, MJ probably would have treated him differently. No biggie.

[Andrei89]

To top it all off, that incident happened in 1993, two years before Jordan and Dennis played together.


What happened BRO?

[Soundwave]

Everyone has a limit. Places where they don't want to be hounded for pictures or autographs. And for MJ, one of the few places where he does not like to be bothered by dudes is when he is out with his boys, at the club, getting his drink on. And like I said before, that rule does not apply to women.

Further complicating things is MJ likely didn't know who Cam was. Combined being fooked up from drinking with the fact that MJ listens to R & B, and MJ just saw dude as a guy breaking the unwritten "man rules" about not approaching celebrity type brothers when hanging with friends while getting their party on.

If this had been at store or something on a Monday afternoon or something, MJ probably would have treated him differently. No biggie.

Pretty much. Who knows maybe Jordan had been harassed by 3-4 guys prior to this happening and just had enough of idiots trying to approach him.

And no, girls coming up to you in a bar is *not* the same thing as 20 dudes in oversized jeans and baseball caps trying to get a photo op with you that MJ probably has to put up with every time he goes out to an event like this.

The dumbest thing is Chamillionaire says straight up at the beginning of his video that he doesn't go up to celebrities to bother them for photos and he doesn't particularly like it when people do it to him ... yet five seconds into his story, that's exactly what's doing, lol.

[phoenix18]

Pretty anyone with money/celebrity status is a douche. That's why I dont look at the NBA person, I look at the player.

I dont believe that at all. Eddie George is a cool dude and I am sure there are countless of other celebs that are the same way. Its kind of unreasonable for us to expect to take a pic or get an autograph everytime we see one although that has nothing to do with this. MJ is a jerk. Charlie Sheen knows this all to well.

[Soundwave]

I dont believe that at all. Eddie George is a cool dude and I am sure there are countless of other celebs that are the same way. Its kind of unreasonable for us to expect to take a pic or get an autograph everytime we see one although that has nothing to do with this. MJ is a jerk. Charlie Sheen knows this all to well.

Yeah Charlie Sheen sure sounds like a stand up guy, with what trying to strangle his wife and pulling a knife on her and all (not to mention his hooker escapades).

Honestly if I see someone I admire and they are seated at a dinner table, and you're going to ask them to stand up and interrupt their meal or whatever so you can get a photo -- seriously piss off. It's a bad idea, and it's likely only to work out well if they're a minor celebrity who doesn't get asked a lot or they're in a great mood.

I wouldn't do it ... just let the person be. Maybe if they up on their feet and walking about, that's fair game to ask, but don't ask someone who's in conversation/having dinner seated or whatever to get up so you can get a photo. It's just stupid and tacky, unless you're 10-years-old then maybe you can play the "I'm a kid" card.

Understand Michael Jordan is one of the few people on Earth that literally cannot take a sh-t without getting harassed for autographs ... there's that famous story that he was using a public washroom one time and some idiot started sliding pictures under the stall door hoping to get an autograph.

[Soundwave]

It's a shame MJ can't more a stand up citizen like ...

Magic ... who's sexcapades and orgies were wildly rampant through his playing career and obviously eventually ended up costing him his career and could've also endangered the life of his spouse, Cookie, with his recklessness.

Or Bird ... who has a daughter who he wouldn't even give the time of day to for like 18 years even though she only lived a short distance away.

Or Kobe ... after acting like a spoiled brat for the first several seasons of his career was accused of raping a girl (who knows really what happened there either) and then ratting out his teammates in his police statement afterwards.

Or Barkley ... uh ... yeah, I don't think we even need to open this can of worms.

Yeah lets heap on MJ for not getting up from a table to take a photo with Chamillionaire and gambling a tiny fraction of his own well-earned money on some golf bets (oooh ... how terrible).

I guarantee all of the above mentioned have also berated/taunted teammates at some point in their career, have refused to sign autographs at some point in their career, and have been rude to people who approached them at some point in their career as well.

You want a "nice guy" ... Steve Nash is probably the nicest NBA player who is actually a "star" player. And really at some point he's probably pissed someone off too. If Jordan really was that terrible of a person, you have to figure he's been approached by literally tens of thousands of fans over the last 25 years ... wouldn't there literally be thousands of stories all over net about it?

[TheTruth11]

Yeah Charlie Sheen sure sounds like a stand up guy, with what trying to strangle his wife and pulling a knife on her and all (not to mention his hooker escapades).

Honestly if I see someone I admire and they are seated at a dinner table, and you're going to ask them to stand up and interrupt their meal or whatever so you can get a photo -- seriously piss off. It's a bad idea, and it's likely only to work out well if they're a minor celebrity who doesn't get asked a lot or they're in a great mood.

I wouldn't do it ... just let the person be. Maybe if they up on their feet and walking about, that's fair game to ask, but don't ask someone who's in conversation/having dinner seated or whatever to get up so you can get a photo. It's just stupid.

Understand Michael Jordan is one of the few people on Earth that literally cannot take a sh-t without getting harassed for autographs ... there's that famous story that he was using a public washroom one time and some idiot started sliding pictures under the stall door hoping to get an autograph.

Great point Soundwave. And the other thing is, Paul Pierce knew who Cam was and treated him differently because of it. But if this had been some annonymous ball cap wearin, baggy jeans wearin, madallion wearing brother approaching Paul Pierce IN THIS PARTICULAR SETTING, Paul Pierce would have likely rebuffed him too. I have heard that Paul is that way as well when he is out with his boys.... getting his party on. Approach him on a Saturday afternoon, not with his family or something, and you will likely get a different response.

All of this boils down to Cam and his ego really. Cam thinks that he is the sh$t. And in his world, he probably is. I am sure Cam usually gets mad love. But when Cam got rebuffed, it made him look bad. That's why Cam is salty and putting MJ on frontstreet. I am sure Cam's entourage was front row for the whole thing and has been giving Cam the sh$t about it ever since.

And you are also right that it does make a difference based on how big a star you really are. Eddie George, as big a star as he is, is not even in the same stratosphere as MJ. Eddie can go to California and be barely recognized. MJ can go to China and be mobbed.


...............

[Alhazred]

What happened BRO?

Dennis was contemplating suicide. It was around the time he was in San Antonio.

[Alhazred]

Understand Michael Jordan is one of the few people on Earth that literally cannot take a sh-t without getting harassed for autographs ... there's that famous story that he was using a public washroom one time and some idiot started sliding pictures under the stall door hoping to get an autograph.

XD At least wait until he's out of the stall....

[Soundwave]

People also are so quick to point out stupid crap like this, Jordan also did a lot for sick/underprivleged kids through various foundations including the Make A Wish Foundation:

http://www.wish.org/stories/sports_entertainment/sports/matt_michael_jordan

http://www.wish.org/var/wish_user/storage/images/stories/sports_entertainment/sports/matt_michael_jordan/6146-3-eng-US/matt_michael_jordan.jpg

She described meeting Michael Jordan, who is the foundation's chief ambassador and has granted the wishes of more than 180 children.

"I was like, 'Oh my gosh, you're Michael Jordan. Whoa, that is so cool,'" Monte'kia said. "He seems like a really calm, down-to-earth person. He didn't seem like a famous person. He just seemed like a person."

Other examples ... I'm sure there's a ton more:

http://www.oregonlive.com/washingtoncounty/index.ssf/2009/03/salem_boy_gets_to_meet_michael.html

http://www.wpbf.com/news/22021470/detail.html

Jordan WAS the ambassador for the NBA for the better part of the 1990s and was one of the most popular players really from the beginning of his career.

It's also known that Jordan would hang out and keep tabs on kids that lived around the old Chicago Stadium to make sure they were going to school and not getting involved in things like gangs.

If he was such a terrible person, I really doubt he could have achieved the amount of public relations good will he had.

But boo-hoo, apparently snapping at Chamillionaire is some kind of huge story.

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Didn't know Mike's PR guy posted here.

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People also are so quick to point out stupid crap like this, Jordan also did a lot for sick/underprivleged kids through various foundations including the Make A Wish Foundation:

http://www.wish.org/stories/sports_entertainment/sports/matt_michael_jordan

http://www.wish.org/var/wish_user/storage/images/stories/sports_entertainment/sports/matt_michael_jordan/6146-3-eng-US/matt_michael_jordan.jpg

She described meeting Michael Jordan, who is the foundation's chief ambassador and has granted the wishes of more than 180 children.

"I was like, 'Oh my gosh, you're Michael Jordan. Whoa, that is so cool,'" Monte'kia said. "He seems like a really calm, down-to-earth person. He didn't seem like a famous person. He just seemed like a person."

Other examples ... I'm sure there's a ton more:

http://www.oregonlive.com/washingtoncounty/index.ssf/2009/03/salem_boy_gets_to_meet_michael.html

http://www.wpbf.com/news/22021470/detail.html

Jordan WAS the ambassador for the NBA for the better part of the 1990s and was one of the most popular players really from the beginning of his career.

It's also known that Jordan would hang out and keep tabs on kids that lived around the old Chicago Stadium to make sure they were going to school and not getting involved in things like gangs.

If he was such a terrible person, I really doubt he could have achieved the amount of public relations good will he had.

But boo-hoo, apparently snapping at Chamillionaire is some kind of huge story.
:roll:

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Not his PR guy, and I'll acknowledge he certainly wasn't perfect ... but he's about as perfect as the NBA was going to get (and again ... look at the discretions of people like Magic, Kobe, Bird, etc ... far worse).

The NBA today is a goofball league full of idiots who think it's a good idea to bring guns to their lockers, or run into the crowd to punch a fun, or choke a coach, or make an ass out of yourself during All-Star weekend in Las Vegas, etc. etc.

The NBA was extremely fortunate to have landed Jordan. The general public never gave two craps about a few gambling debts. It was his money to blow to begin with.