Andre Miller 52 points [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

sacredcow

01-31-2010, 01:01 AM

22-31 FG, 1-1 3pt, 7-8 FT, 6 rebound, 2 steals, 2 turnovers, 2 assists (starters weren't making their shots very much so he took over)

Great night. Especially since last night he was 1-6 for 2 points.

sacredcow

01-31-2010, 01:02 AM

He matched Roy's career high and I'm guessing on better percentage.

14-27 FG, 5-7 3-PT, 19-21 FT for Roys

04mzwach

01-31-2010, 01:08 AM

14-27 FG, 5-7 3-PT, 19-21 FT for Roys
nice.

NBASTATMAN

01-31-2010, 01:14 AM

Miller has 41 on 18-27 right now. Playing out of his mind!

He must be really good.. It's almost impossible for a player to score 50 nowadays... :roll:

Those tough no touch rules make life as a perimeter player harrrrrrrrrrrd.....

IcanzIIravor

01-31-2010, 01:18 AM

He must be really good.. It's almost impossible for a player to score 50 nowadays... :roll:

Those tough no touch rules make life as a perimeter player harrrrrrrrrrrd.....

I know! Why anyone playing before the 2000's would drop 50 regularly with the rules and pansies playing today!

pete's montreux

01-31-2010, 01:20 AM

Now he'll get exposure and posters will start including him in their top 10/15 PG's lists all of a sudden, when some posters [such as myself] have been rating him in the top 10 for years. :rolleyes:

sacredcow

01-31-2010, 01:22 AM

Blazers 4th quarter: 30 points
Andre Miller 4th quarter: 25 points

04mzwach

01-31-2010, 01:23 AM

Yeah, but Miller has never been a very good jump shooter. He is known as a playmaker/pass first PG. It's just a little bit surprising and look at the number of free throws. Most players would have 20 free throws to get those stats. Try to find performances with straight buckets like Dre did tonight. I bet you won't find too many. I got my money. :pimp:

Samurai Swoosh

01-31-2010, 01:23 AM

He must be really good.. It's almost impossible for a player to score 50 nowadays... :roll:

Those tough no touch rules make life as a perimeter player harrrrrrrrrrrd.....
Dude freak 50 point games from decent players have been known to happen. Tracy Murray dropped 50 in Jordan's era.

Just, FYI ...

:pimp:

sacredcow

01-31-2010, 01:23 AM

Now he'll get exposure and posters will start including him in their top 10/15 PG's lists all of a sudden, when some posters [such as myself] have been rating him in the top 10 for years. :rolleyes:

Trend whores, Miller is great but out of all those guys in that list he's more subtle about his game. I bet when he has another 1-6 night those posters will jump on another trend.

dab0yech0

01-31-2010, 01:26 AM

via Twitter "On a night when Andre Miller scores 52 points I encourage everyone to play the lottery, gamble and hit on supermodels."

StroShow4

01-31-2010, 01:28 AM

Dude freak 50 point games from decent players have been known to happen.

Tony Delk says, "sup".

John Smith

01-31-2010, 01:30 AM

Didn't Jamal Crawford drop 50? :lol

Andre Miller dropping 50 is no big deal since he is 34 years old. If he did it at 24, this board would be going bananas.

StroShow4

01-31-2010, 01:35 AM

Didn't Jamal Crawford drop 50? :lol

Three times.

John Smith

01-31-2010, 01:36 AM

He did it once with the Bulls, the team that drafted him, I remember that.

Crawford is the perfect 6th man. That's probably what Andre Miller should be.

sacredcow

01-31-2010, 01:39 AM

He did it once with the Bulls, the team that drafted him, I remember that.

Crawford is the perfect 6th man. That's probably what Andre Miller should be.

Blazers are 7-9 without Miller starting
Blazers are 21-12 with Miller starting

StroShow4

01-31-2010, 01:41 AM

He did it once with the Bulls, the team that drafted him, I remember that.

He dropped 52 on the Heat while playing for the Knicks, and he scored 50 on Charlotte while playing for the Warriors.

coin24

01-31-2010, 01:42 AM

Miller had an awesome game, that off balance shot across the lane was sweet:rockon: ...

Portland are going way better this season than i thought they would..

John Smith

01-31-2010, 01:46 AM

I thought Miller was a redundant signing and a needless one at that. He only blocks young guys who can handle the ball like Rudy and Bayless. I think Portland would be wise to go the younger direction since they obviously can't win it all this year. However, it's tough to do that when the sly old veteran Andre Miller drops 50+ points in a game against solid competition in a hostile environment.

Miller was simply on fire tonight. He was in the zone. I would never have expected this outcome from a pass first PG. It's a good thing for Portland but at the same time you have to wonder if it is kind of like Orlando's situation in the recent past with Skip to my Lou. Pretty soon, you're going to have to move the old guy so your younger talent can shine. And in Orlando's case that was Jameer Nelson.

Samurai Swoosh

01-31-2010, 01:48 AM

Didn't Jamal Crawford drop 50? :lol

It's not as ridiculous with JC. He's a streaky shooter whose a KNOWN gunner who has never met a shot he hasn't approved. He's dropped 50 + 2 or 3 times so it isn't that shocking with Crawford.

Tony Delk says, "sup".

Well, you and I would know that of course ... cause we're intelligent fans of the game. Errr "bandwagon fans"

:oldlol:

Trend whores, Miller is great

Whoa, whoa ... easy there tiger. Andre Miller has never been "great."

Samurai Swoosh

01-31-2010, 01:49 AM

He dropped 52 on the Heat while playing for the Knicks, and he scored 50 on Charlotte while playing for the Warriors.
And then had his first one on the Bulls against the Raptors. That one against the Heat came with him sitting the majority of the 4th quarter as well. The Raptor one was in OT I believe, and I forget about the one against Charlotte as a member of the Warriors.

plowking

01-31-2010, 01:50 AM

He must be really good.. It's almost impossible for a player to score 50 nowadays... :roll:

Those tough no touch rules make life as a perimeter player harrrrrrrrrrrd.....

Tony Delk, a far worse player than Miller drops 53 in regulation, no overtimes before the new rules are put in place. I wonder how that happens...

sacredcow

01-31-2010, 01:51 AM

Whoa, whoa ... easy there tiger. Andre Miller has never been "great."

He's not great in the sense of Nash, Paul, Williams, Nelson sense but he gets his numbers and does a good job setting guys up. He can attack the rim (something Steve Blake refuses to do) and find his own shot when nobody else wants to take it. What more do you want? He's not flashy, but he gets the job done.

plowking

01-31-2010, 01:51 AM

Dude freak 50 point games from decent players have been known to happen. Tracy Murray dropped 50 in Jordan's era.

Just, FYI ...

:pimp:

Who? Exactly. The pro 80's/90's homos need to shut the hell up.

StroShow4

01-31-2010, 01:52 AM

It's a good thing for Portland but at the same time you have to wonder if it is kind of like Orlando's situation in the recent past with Skip to my Lou. Pretty soon, you're going to have to move the old guy so your younger talent can shine. And in Orlando's case that was Jameer Nelson.

This really isn't similar to the Rafer in Orlando situation at all. Rafer was brought to town because Jameer got hurt and Orlando needed someone servicable to hold things down. Rafer was dealt as soon as he was no longer needed.

Samurai Swoosh

01-31-2010, 01:52 AM

Tony Delk, a far worse player than Miller drops 53 in regulation, no overtimes before the new rules are put in place. I wonder how that happens...
Yeah, but Tony Delk could score. TRACY MURRAY was a spot up shooter. The equivelent to a black Jason Kapono and dropped 50+ in the 90's as a member of the Bullets. Tracy FREAKING Murray.

:oldlol:

If it happens once, knowing the caliber of player someone is I consider some 50 + games to be flukes.

Samurai Swoosh

01-31-2010, 01:55 AM

He's not great in the sense of Nash, Paul, Williams, Nelson sense but he gets his numbers and does a good job setting guys up. He can attack the rim (something Steve Blake refuses to do) and find his own shot when nobody else wants to take it. What more do you want? He's not flashy, but he gets the job done.
Just watch the wording, that's all. He's a solid starting PG. That's all he ever has been. Even when he put up pretty good numbers for terrible Cavalier teams. It was a mirage. Like with any scrub putting up numbers on a bad team. Cause if those numbers meant something and came at important times, the numbers would be accurate representations of the player's impact, and their respective teams wouldn't be racking up L's instead of W's.

StroShow4

01-31-2010, 01:55 AM

And then had his first one on the Bulls against the Raptors. That one against the Heat came with him sitting the majority of the 4th quarter as well. The Raptor one was in OT I believe, and I forget about the one against Charlotte as a member of the Warriors.

I never saw the one against the Bulls, I did see the other two. The one against the Heat was more impressive than the one against Charlotte. He made 16 (I think it was 16) shots in a row, and like you said, sat out late in the game. He easily could've gone for 60+ had the game remained close.

plowking

01-31-2010, 01:56 AM

Yeah, but Tony Delk could score. TRACY MURRAY was a spot up shooter. The equivelent to a black Jason Kapono and dropped 50+ in the 90's as a member of the Bullets. Tracy FREAKING Murray.

:oldlol:

If it happens once, knowing the caliber of player someone is I consider some 50 + games to be flukes.

Both 9ppg scorers for their careers. At least Miller is at 15ppg for his career.

John Smith

01-31-2010, 01:56 AM

This really isn't similar to the Rafer in Orlando situation at all. Rafer was brought to town because Jameer got hurt and Orlando needed someone servicable to hold things down. Rafer was dealt as soon as he was no longer needed.

If you paid attention to Orlando's playoff run, you would have noticed the tension between Rafer and the coaching staff, the team, and Nelson. He didn't want to be replaced when he was playing well and Nelson was coming back from injury.

It's a similar situation because it is out with the old and in with the new. The Blazers need to move the road block that is Andre Miller. I know he dropped 50 and that's great. All fans should relish in it. But in the big picture, he's not going to get the Blazers to the promised land. Bayless just might be able to do that...but how will we know since he can barely average 18 minutes per game?

Why did Portland sign Andre Miller? Are they that down on Rudy and Bayless?

Samurai Swoosh

01-31-2010, 01:57 AM

Both 9ppg scorers for their careers. At least Miller is at 15ppg for his career.
'Dre Miller is a better player head and shoulders compared to the both of them.

PistonsFan#21

01-31-2010, 01:58 AM

Who on here could of honestly guessed that Brandon Jennings and Andre Miller would be the 1st two players to drop 50pts this season? I bet no one in the world saw that coming

StroShow4

01-31-2010, 01:59 AM

If you paid attention to Orlando's playoff run, you would have noticed the tension between Rafer and the coaching staff, the team, and Nelson. He didn't want to be replaced when he was playing well and Nelson was coming back from injury.

I did pay attention to the playoff run. That's a bit different, don't you think? The Magic had made the finals with Rafer in there, and it was kind of questionable whether or not Jameer was really ready to roll. Nelson ended up playing anyways.

EDIT: And Rudy Fernandez isn't a point guard, I don't know why you keep mentioning him.

plowking

01-31-2010, 02:00 AM

Who on here could of honestly guessed that Brandon Jennings and Andre Miller would be the 1st two players to drop 50pts this season? I bet no one in the world saw that coming

Melo dropped 50 too.

sacredcow

01-31-2010, 02:01 AM

Why did Portland sign Andre Miller? Are they that down on Rudy and Bayless?

Did you not watch the playoffs last year? Nobody but Roy could create their own shot. That's why they signed him.

Also, Rudy and Bayless are not PG's.

sacredcow

01-31-2010, 02:02 AM

Just watch the wording, that's all. He's a solid starting PG. That's all he ever has been. Even when he put up pretty good numbers for terrible Cavalier teams. It was a mirage. Like with any scrub putting up numbers on a bad team. Cause if those numbers meant something and came at important times, the numbers would be accurate representations of the player's impact, and their respective teams wouldn't be racking up L's instead of W's.

Noted

John Smith

01-31-2010, 02:05 AM

Bayless is a PG, so what if he wants to shoot first?

PistonsFan#21

01-31-2010, 02:09 AM

Melo dropped 50 too.

Wasnt it 48?

StroShow4

01-31-2010, 02:10 AM

Wasnt it 48?

Nope, 50 against the Knicks.

Samurai Swoosh

01-31-2010, 02:20 AM

Noted
Wasn't trying to be a douche, btw ... didn't just want the exaggerations about him as a player after this 52 point game start to kick in and skew his worth in retrospect.

Samurai Swoosh

01-31-2010, 02:21 AM

Nope, 50 against the Knicks.
Suprisingly Melo hasn't had NEAR the amount of 50 points games I would have expected him to have by this point. For his career I mean.

John Smith

01-31-2010, 02:25 AM

Suprisingly Melo hasn't had NEAR the amount of 50 points games I would have expected him to have by this point. For his career I mean.

The same goes for Wade.

Samurai Swoosh

01-31-2010, 02:33 AM

The same goes for Wade.
True. But Wade never put up the amount of 3 point attempts up until a few years ago as Melo, Bryants, and James of the world. So I didn't expect as many 50 point games out of him. But he had 2 or 3 50 point games last season alone.

leopoldstotch

01-31-2010, 03:19 AM

in honor of Andre Miller's 52 points tonight, i had to look through the history books to see what other guys in history scored more than 51 points, and have a low to mediocre career ppg like miller's (14.5)

- mahmoud abdul rauf - 51 points. 14.6 ppg
- terry cummings - 52 points. 16.4 ppg. yeah he became a career backup guy after the 91 season, but before that, his first 8 years in the league he was pretty good.
- charles smith - 52 points. 14.4 ppg
- willie burton - 53 points. 10.3 ppg

- tony delk - 53 points. 9.3 ppg
- damon stoudemire - 54 points. 13.4 ppg

one thing to note: the year kobe averaged 35.4 ppg, he posted 6 games with 50+ points, including his 62 and 81 point games within 1 month of each other. :roll:

konex

01-31-2010, 03:28 AM

one thing to note: the year kobe averaged 35.4 ppg, he posted 6 games with 50+ points, including his 62 and 81 point games within 1 month of each other.

He also had 4 straight 50 point games and 40+ in the game after that..

Samurai Swoosh

01-31-2010, 03:47 AM

He also had 4 straight 50 point games and 40+ in the game after that..
That was in 2007 ... not in 2006

Posterize246

01-31-2010, 12:11 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPaNaD2gr-E

Myth

01-31-2010, 02:47 PM

Why did Portland sign Andre Miller? Are they that down on Rudy and Bayless?

Rudy isn't a PG and the Blazers WERE down on Bayless. He was 3rd string last year and thus he had yet to show much of what we have seen this year. Blazers weren't sure if he'd be ready, traded Sergio, and brought in Andre. Another reason they signed Andre was because they had cap space and were unable to land their targeted free agents (Hedo, Millsap, David Lee). Next summer they would have gone over the cap whether they signed a guy or not due to Roy and Aldridge's extensions, so the Blazers decided to sign the best guy still available in free agency, and that was Andre Miller.

G.O.A.T

01-31-2010, 03:10 PM

Rudy isn't a PG and the Blazers WERE down on Bayless. He was 3rd string last year and thus he had yet to show much of what we have seen this year. Blazers weren't sure if he'd be ready, traded Sergio, and brought in Andre. Another reason they signed Andre was because they had cap space and were unable to land their targeted free agents (Hedo, Millsap, David Lee). Next summer they would have gone over the cap whether they signed a guy or not due to Roy and Aldridge's extensions, so the Blazers decided to sign the best guy still available in free agency, and that was Andre Miller.

That's how you break it down.