Kobe on the decline?

[sergiorodriguez]

Is Kobe Bryant on the decline? Yes he is injuring but that is a sign that his body is deteriorating after playing in the NBA since he was 17.

He is still a good player but it looks as though players like Kevin Durant, Stephen Jackson and Brandon Roy have surpassed him.

Do you think that Kobe Bryant is on the decline?

[GollyImSoGully]

What kind of dumbass question is this? OBVIOUSLY HE'S DECLINING.

Attention whore makes yet another thread with no substance.

[juju151111]

KD has a fetus already surpassed Kobe.

[sergiorodriguez]

What kind of dumbass question is this? OBVIOUSLY HE'S DECLINING.

Attention whore makes yet another thread with no substance.
I'm just wondering if posters in the majority think Kobe is still a top 3 player in the league or not.:confusedshrug:

[Brujesino]

KD has a fetus already surpassed Kobe.
agreed

fetus>kobe

[Lebron23]

He is still a top 3 player in the league, but he needs to rest it out for a couple of games

Lakers are one of the most stacked teams in the NBA. I am sure they can win some games without Kobe.

This team needs a healthy Kobe Bryant in the playoffs.

[OneMoreSucka]

I'm just wondering if posters in the majority think Kobe is still a top 3 player in the league or not.:confusedshrug:
Valid question, he's dropped pretty far...

[Al Thornton]

Kevin Durant >>>> Kobe, fact. the kobe nutriders don't like to admit it, but KD is better in all aspects over kobe, better shot, better hands, doesn't rape, blocks shots, tall, 3 pt shot, scores points consistents, not selfish

kobe will be down to 15 ppg next year at this rate, lakers should trade while he still has value

1. durant
2. paul
3. lebron
4. howard
5. duncan

[mattevans11]

He is still a top 3 player in the league, but he needs to rest it out for a couple of games

Lakers are one of the most stacked teams in the NBA. I am sure they can win some games without Kobe.

This team needs a healthy Kobe Bryant in the playoffs.
he is barely a top 3 player on his own team

[Horde of Temujin]

Nah hes just coastin, hes leveled off but not on the decline just yet,still the best in the game, dont be a hata

[6thManOfTheYear]

Kevin Durant >>>> Kobe, fact. the kobe nutriders don't like to admit it, but KD is better in all aspects over kobe, better shot, better hands, doesn't rape, blocks shots, tall, 3 pt shot, scores points consistents, not selfish

kobe will be down to 15 ppg next year at this rate, lakers should trade while he still has value
:oldlol:

[Kensta]

he is barely a top 3 player on his own team

Yup.

It's Morrison, Sasha, then Kobe.

[Desperado]

Kevin Durant >>>> Kobe, fact. the kobe nutriders don't like to admit it, but KD is better in all aspects over kobe, better shot, better hands, doesn't rape, blocks shots, tall, 3 pt shot, scores points consistents, not selfish

kobe will be down to 15 ppg next year at this rate, lakers should trade while he still has value

1. durant
2. paul
3. lebron
4. howard
5. duncan

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/51/el1oo2.jpg

[sergiorodriguez]

Yeh that's what I was thinking, Durantula has surpassed Kobe.

I am really waiting for them to introduce a Durant MVPuppet and have him gradually push out Kobe, the Kobe MVPuppet marketing campaign is really much worse than lebron's last year and needs to end soon.


Reggie just said Kobe, Carmelo, Lebron and Wade are the 4 superstars in the league, but I'd say Durant has taken Kobe's place, with Stephen Jackson lurking in the ranks.

[OneMoreSucka]

What kind of dumbass question is this? OBVIOUSLY HE'S DECLINING.

Attention whore makes yet another thread with no substance.
Take the L and move on.

[Horde of Temujin]

haha no way just because he coasts and is fighting a broken fingerdoesn't have to put up as much numbers does not mean hes declining, and Durant better than him? Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet, get real.

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

Kevin Durant >>>> Kobe, fact. the kobe nutriders don't like to admit it, but KD is better in all aspects over kobe, better shot, better hands, doesn't rape, blocks shots, tall, 3 pt shot, scores points consistents, not selfish

kobe will be down to 15 ppg next year at this rate, lakers should trade while he still has value

1. durant
2. paul
3. lebron
4. howard
5. duncan
:no:

[DC's Finest]

I think its really unquestionable wether kobes better than durant. I mean hes obviously not. Not only is kobe on the decline, but the lakers as a whole are too. I wouldn't be surprised if the Thunder won the finals this year. Etan Thomas is playing out of his mind, and in my opinion is a better big man than Gasol.

[Lakeshow23]

Before he got hit with the injury bug Kobe was playing out of his mind.

I'd love to see all the people listed here as being better than Kobe play basketball with broken fingers, back spasms and sore ankles. Me thinks they wouldn't be nearly as better as you think they are.

[GollyImSoGully]

Take the L and move on.

Taking my disses? I guess that's when white people are funny. When they steal our material. :rolleyes:

Anyways, he's in his 14th season...of course he's gonna decline. Name me a player after 14 season that didn't decline?

[Horde of Temujin]

I think its really unquestionable wether kobes better than durant. I mean hes obviously not. Not only is kobe on the decline, but the lakers as a whole are too. I wouldn't be surprised if the Thunder won the finals this year. Etan Thomas is playing out of his mind, and in my opinion is a better big man than Gasol.

wow thats a bold statement, i mean i could see some scant relevance in claiming Durant>Bryant but i just dont see that

[Kobe4life]

u lost!

[macpierce]

when kobe was healthy this year, he was neck to neck with lebron in the mvp race, you might even he he was winning it.......now it looks like lebron is running away with it

[sergiorodriguez]

Taking my disses? I guess that's when white people are funny. When they steal our material. :rolleyes:

Anyways, he's in his 14th season...of course he's gonna decline. Name me a player after 14 season that didn't decline?
You are a whitey from Canada brah, you already admitted it:roll: :roll: :roll:


Durant has surpassed Kobe. He just needs to win Allstar MVP to confirm the passing of the guard.

[artificial]

Indeed, as the OP predicted, Sergio Rodriguez elevated his game to another level.

Rodriguez > Capt. Jack > Etan Thomas > ... > ... > Kobe

[mattevans11]

Taking my disses? I guess that's when white people are funny. When they steal our material. :rolleyes:

Anyways, he's in his 14th season...of course he's gonna decline. Name me a player after 14 season that didn't decline?
kobe is on a steep decline.... that is the point.... for someone to drop that fast is really unheard of

[sergiorodriguez]

Indeed, as the OP predicted, Sergio Rodriguez elevated his game to another level.

Rodriguez > Capt. Jack > ... > ... > Kobe
Are you a ****ing troll, Sergio is not even close to any of those players, but yes Stephen Jackson is playing better basketball than Kobe this season.

[Horde of Temujin]

You are a whitey from Canada brah, you already admitted it:roll: :roll: :roll:


Durant has surpassed Kobe. He just needs to win Allstar MVP to confirm the passing of the guard.

your hate blinds you, no way is Durant better than Kobe. NO WAY!! Now you can say he has the potential that i can understand.
Hate, hate i hate for the sake of hating.

[NBASTATMAN]

Is Kobe Bryant on the decline? Yes he is injuring but that is a sign that his body is deteriorating after playing in the NBA since he was 17.

He is still a good player but it looks as though players like Kevin Durant, Stephen Jackson and Brandon Roy have surpassed him.

Do you think that Kobe Bryant is on the decline?



NO KOBE IS STILL A GREAT PLAYER.. Still the most skilled player in the game and he plays hardddddd at all times... END THIS THREAD...

[c3zz4rr]

:wtf: Im new here so Im not exactly sure if some of you guys are kidding and this is a joke thread or if you're serious and actually believe what you're typing, Im going to lurk some more to find out

[OneMoreSucka]

Taking my disses? I guess that's when white people are funny. When they steal our material. :rolleyes:

Anyways, he's in his 14th season...of course he's gonna decline. Name me a player after 14 season that didn't decline?
Durant in 2021.

Take the L.

[sergiorodriguez]

your hate blinds you, no way is Durant better than Kobe. NO WAY!! Now you can say he has the potential that i can understand.
Hate, hate i hate for the sake of hating.
Check the stats:rockon:

Difference is Durant does not have the amazing supporting cast that Kobe does. Imagine if he did. Durant would be unbeatable with Gasol and Bynum.

[artificial]

Are you a ****ing troll, Sergio is not even close to any of those players, but yes Stephen Jackson is playing better basketball than Kobe this season.
But... but... I thought you said Sergio was going to elevate his game this season?


C'mon, you and I know that he isn't in the ASG merely because the coaches don't like him. He is clearly a MVP contender.

[AKADS]

WOW what to say. What have you done for me in the last 3 days in the NBA now.

Kobe and LeBron are 1 and 2. And I don't care which way you order them because there is a case for both. I obviously perfer LeBron but I am a huge Kobe fan.

After that guys like Durant, Melo, Paul, Deron, Dwight, Dirk, Duncan, Bosh, Roy, JJ, and more I am sure I forgot.

[GollyImSoGully]

Durant in 2021.

Take the L.

Whites stealing from blacks yet again.

*Takes L*

[KingLeBronJames]

Kevin Durant >>>> Kobe, fact. the kobe nutriders don't like to admit it, but KD is better in all aspects over kobe, better shot, better hands, doesn't rape, blocks shots, tall, 3 pt shot, scores points consistents, not selfish

kobe will be down to 15 ppg next year at this rate, lakers should trade while he still has value

1. durant
2. paul
3. lebron
4. howard
5. duncan
:roll: your funny. Kobe > Durant

[Horde of Temujin]

Check the stats:rockon:

Difference is Durant does not have the amazing supporting cast that Kobe does. Imagine if he did. Durant would be unbeatable with Gasol and Bynum.


that proves it!youre tripping and dont know what youre talking about, you know nothing, zilch, nada, stats mean sh!t
check the stats! sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

[OneMoreSucka]

Whites stealing from blacks yet again.

*Takes L*
F*ckin' right.

[sergiorodriguez]

But... but... I thought you said Sergio was going to elevate his game this season?


C'mon, you and I know that he isn't in the ASG merely because the coaches don't like him. He is clearly a MVP contender.
No he isn't I thought Tyreke Evans would not be having a better rookie year than Lebron james, and also that Beno Udrih would continue to play horribly like he has for the past 3 years instead of play like a top 10 PG in the league.


The stage was set, but Evans stepped up big and so has Udrih-the only player who hasn't stepped up so big is Sergio lol

[sergiorodriguez]

im whiter than Kim Cattrrall's ass and I live in T-Dot yo
White person pretending to be black yet again.

*Takes L*

[sergiorodriguez]

that proves it!youre tripping and dont know what youre talking about, you know nothing, zilch, nada, stats mean sh!t
check the stats! sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
Durant-Carrying scrubs to the playoffs


Kobe-underachieving with the most talented supporting cast in the L. 11 losses already with this team is under achieving, yes.

[artificial]

No he isn't I thought Tyreke Evans would not be having a better rookie year than Lebron james, and also that Beno Udrih would continue to play horribly like he has for the past 3 years instead of play like a top 10 PG in the league.


The stage was set, but Evans stepped up big and so has Udrih-the only player who hasn't stepped up so big is Sergio lol
Well then, how about Etan Thomas? He is clearly THE man in OKC, right? At the very least better than Kobe, and you know it.

[Desperado]

:wtf: Im new here so Im not exactly sure if some of you guys are kidding and this is a joke thread or if you're serious and actually believe what you're typing, Im going to lurk some more to find out


Its a shock thread....

[Indian guy]

He IS getting older and the injuries are a reflection of that. But declining? Please. The guy was arguably playing the best ball of his career before the injuries sprung up. He'll be fine once he gets healthy. Which means he needs to sit his ass DOWN for a few games. I can't believe how selfish he's being by continuing to play hurt. Home court won't mean a whole lot if LA doesn't know what Kobe's going to show up from game to game.

[dyna]

WOW what to say. What have you done for me in the last 3 days in the NBA now.

Kobe and LeBron are 1 and 2. And I don't care which way you order them because there is a case for both. I obviously perfer LeBron but I am a huge Kobe fan.

After that guys like Durant, Melo, Paul, Deron, Dwight, Dirk, Duncan, Bosh, Roy, JJ, and more I am sure I forgot.
:cheers:

Kobe just needs to rest.

[Horde of Temujin]

Durant-Carrying scrubs to the playoffs


Kobe-underachieving with the most talented supporting cast in the L. 11 losses already with this team is under achieving, yes.

Kobes not the one underachieving, keep in mind hes battling injuries, and his supporting cast is not all that great outside of Bynum, Gasol. LO and Artest and the bench are playing like sh!t

[Horde of Temujin]

Fisher is the worst starting PG in the league

[The GM]

I hope this is a joke.. Stephen Jackson better than Kobe? Durant? c'mon really? is this what the hate for Kobe has come down too? The man is a flat out warrior playing with a messed up finger, ankle, a bad back. Most players would sit out with any of those injuries. Lebron & Kobe are still the top 2 in the league, Durant still has to prove he's better then Dirk, Duncan, Melo & Wade before you even get to Kobe & Lebron.. and I have alot of respect for Durants game he's one of my favorite players but you can't just say he's better then greats just off a great string of games and keep in my he hasn't proven anything yet, nothing at all.

[Jr Llaban]

Check the stats:rockon:

Difference is Durant does not have the amazing supporting cast that Kobe does. Imagine if he did. Durant would be unbeatable with Gasol and Bynum.

i'm amazed at the amount of bandwagonning (excuse the improper grammar) that KD is getting this season. not that i'm saying that you are a bandwagoner SR, its just that people who wrote off KD a couple years ago because they said he was weak and skinny (the guy couldn't even bench 185 pre-draft tho) are the same people saying that he's unstoppable now. I've always been a durant fan, but durant>kobe? i honestly don't think so, though i can see durant surpassing kobe one day.

but to be back on topic, kobe is on the decline not just because of his health, but i think he's not where he used to be mentally. his whole mentality changed from trusting his team mates to believing he has to carry the Lakers all by himself. it seems as if he's so afraid of receiving the same criticism from the 05-06 season that he makes himself believe he has more to prove than just win a championship, in which some cases he does. he has to trust that his team mates can go 2 weeks without him and win 75% of the games they play, until then, i think we're gonna just get 50/50 glimpses of kobe. as in, see the kobe people are used to seeing and then seeing the kobe that played against the bobcats

[chazzy]

http://www.12manage.com/images/picture_joule_bait_and_switch.gif

[lilgodfather1]

I love how much Kevin Durant is being over rated. He is not a better player than Kobe right now, but next season I could definately see it. To me it goes LeBron>>>>>Kobe>Wade>>>Durant>CP3>>>>Dwight.

[T_Element]

Kobe is still better than durant atm (OKC needs durant more than lakers need kobe), but that will change next year.

[Brujesino]

monta ellis>>>>>>>>kobe bryant

seriously kobe is SO washed up he should give his all star spot to monta

[TMacYaoRockets]

monta ellis>>>>>>>>kobe bryant

seriously kobe is SO washed up he should give his all star spot to monta
Ellis doesn't deserve to be at the All-Star Game. Replace Kobe with Earl Boykins!

[triangleoffense]

You are a whitey from Canada brah, you already admitted it:roll: :roll: :roll:


Durant has surpassed Kobe. He just needs to win Allstar MVP to confirm the passing of the guard.

lol this stalker troll seems to live on ish just to insult people. Every post that i see from you even on the nba forums are somehow more about other posters than about the nba.

[Brujesino]

Ellis doesn't deserve to be at the All-Star Game. Replace Kobe with Earl Boykins!
i can live with that

boykins>>>>>>>>>kobe

[schism206]

i've always hated bryant, but he's still pretty f'n good still. i also have to respect his dedication and ability to play through pain. but it is sort of funny how there were some articles on yahoo about kobe not slowing down at all just a month ago, and now he's starting to rack up the injuries. time will catch up sooner than later since he's been in the league so long. but he still has more longevity than a player like say... dwayne wade, because he has much more of a finesse game. he doesn't throw his body around as much, and doesn't need to either.

[sergiorodriguez]

lol this stalker troll seems to live on ish just to insult people. Every post that i see from you even on the nba forums are somehow more about other posters than about the nba.
You can't deny that Durant has surpassed Kobe this season

[TMacYaoRockets]

i can live with that

boykins>>>>>>>>>kobe
Yes! Boykins >>>>> Kobe, LeBron and Wade. :bowdown:

[KB24Fan]

Idiot Post Durant hasn't done anything to be mention with Kobe, yes he's the future of the league but Kobe is the best player in the game hands down...His Numbers are the same as last years so how is he's declining because he doesn't have the lift in his legs anymore...HELLO!!! look at Jordan during the last 3 peat same game as Kobe has now jumpshot and great post moves and when he wins 5 this season what will you laker haters be saying Then???

[DuMa]

lets all kick kobe while he is down some more please.

[TMacYaoRockets]

lets all kick kobe while he is down some more please.
Yes, then next its T-Mac. :D

[Bigsmoke]

well...Sergio Rodriguaz sucks so u shouldnt be worrying about Kobe

[Disaprine]

I think phil is on the decline to, he only starts kobe because hes afraid of sasha's power.

[triangleoffense]

You can't deny that Durant has surpassed Kobe this season

yes, but you could have just said that instead of making your post be more about whoever his name is.

[SoCalMike]

http://www.12manage.com/images/picture_joule_bait_and_switch.gif

LMAO! so true!!!!! :cheers:





:pimp:

[chazzy]

Let's see how Durant does WITHOUT Nenad Kristic drawing defensive attention. Durant sees single coverage because of it, and is allowed to do whatever he wants. He can go ahead and continue to stat pad while riding the coattails of Kristic, but true basketball fans know who the real engine of that team is.

[Rafael Delaget]

Let's see how Durant does WITHOUT Nenad Kristic drawing defensive attention. Durant sees single coverage because of it, and is allowed to do whatever he wants. He can go ahead and continue to stat pad while riding the coattails of Kristic, but true basketball fans know who the real engine of that team is.

"Make em say uhh Nenad" Nenad Krstic :bowdown:

[KB2009Champ]

Ahh, the so called laker fan strikes again

[sergiorodriguez]

yes, but you could have just said that instead of making your post be more about whoever his name is.
You're right sir, my bad

[DavisWarriorsFan]

Is Kobe Bryant on the decline? Yes he is injuring but that is a sign that his body is deteriorating after playing in the NBA since he was 17.

He is still a good player but it looks as though players like Kevin Durant, Stephen Jackson and Brandon Roy have surpassed him.

Do you think that Kobe Bryant is on the decline?
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[YAWN]

http://bolstablog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/fork-in-the-road.jpg

[Swaggin916]

Jeez the guy tweaked his ankle... yea that only happens to old people. He broke his finger... yea that only happens to old people.

dude doesn't even have to play with braces on his knees... he is fine. Just had some freak things happen. Lemme know when he get's arthritis in knee like Iverson... now that is called getting old.

[LakersFan626]

he is barely a top 3 player on his own team

Really? The stats of the main players in the rotation:

Kobe Bryant- 27.9 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 4.7 apg
Pau Gasol- 17.1 ppg, 10.7 rpg, 3.3 apg
Andrew Bynum- 15.4 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 1.3 apg
Ron Artest- 11.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.1 apg
Derek Fisher- 7.1 ppg, 2 rpg, 2.6 apg
Lamar Odom- 9.7 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 3.7 apg

Kobe leads the team in scoring, is one of the team's best defenders, is the best on the team at creating his own shot, has three game winners, and is the only one on the team who can take over a game. Kobe and LeBron are tied for best player in the league (Durant isn't nearly the defender that they are and they're more clutch than him too) as I look at all the aspects, including defense.

[Quizno]

hi, my name's kobe bryant. i'm currently averaging 28 points per game on 46% shooting. i'm also averaging just as many rebounds and assists as i did last year, when i led my team to a championship.

what's your name?

[Jello]

I think phil is on the decline to, he only starts kobe because hes afraid of sasha's power.
+1

[ShaqAttack3234]

Look at what Kobe was doing early in the season when he was healthy. He was unstoppable in the post and he wasn't relying on athleticism. Entering the new year, Kobe was averaging 30.4 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 4.5 apg and 2.1 spg on 48.5% shooting on a 25-6 team. It looked like he was going to have the best season of his career. He was making it look easy. I've never seen him score so consistently and effortlessly. His post game and mid-range game were unstoppable.

All Kobe has to do is be a little less stubborn, sit out for a bit, let his injuries heal and he'll be back killing the league. If he keeps playing through all of these injuries, they'll only get worse.

[phoenix18]

ShaqAttack, I saw a book about Shaq with the same name and thought that if I tallied the number of words from 100 of your posts it would equal the number of words in the book.

[ShaqAttack3234]

ShaqAttack, I saw a book about Shaq with the same name and thought that if I tallied the number of words from 100 of your posts it would equal the number of words in the book.

What can I say? I'm a fast typist with an unhealthy basketball obsession. :oldlol:

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

hi, my name's kobe bryant. i'm currently averaging 28 points per game on 46% shooting. i'm also averaging just as many rebounds and assists as i did last year, when i led my team to a championship.

what's your name?

OJ Mamba.


Yes, Kobe has declined, i personally would rather have OJ Mayo, Kevin Durant, Derrick Rose, a young talent on my team. The fact that his body is breaking down now, just worries me.

[imdaman99]

OJ Mamba.


Yes, Kobe has declined, i personally would rather have OJ Mayo, Kevin Durant, Derrick Rose, a young talent on my team. The fact that his body is breaking down now, just worries me.
What did OJ Blow-you do in the last game against Kobe and the Lakers? And remind me what Kobe did to him?

[All Net]

Kobe is fine, this thread is a joke.

Yes Kobe has been having injures but are typical injures anybody can have has nothing to do with age. Kobe is still young enough. stop acting like he is 35....Kobe is still a top 2 player in this league and when healthy you could argue the best.

[Killer_Instinct]

I'll be sure to re-up this thread in June.

[NBASTATMAN]

I'll be sure to re-up this thread in June.


YEA.. I am not a Kobe fan but I don't believe for a second he has slipped.. Kobe is still an amazing player who has gotten it done at the end of games this year.. Who the hell thinks this kid is slipping.?. If anything he is playing very well considering his messed up finger.. Anyone who disses Kobe at this point of the season just does not understand how a veteran like KObe thinks.. He is only worrying about the Playoffs..

[NBASTATMAN]

Kobe is fine, this thread is a joke.

Yes Kobe has been having injures but are typical injures anybody can have has nothing to do with age. Kobe is still young enough. stop acting like he is 35....Kobe is still a top 2 player in this league and when healthy you could argue the best.


This thread is a joke.. I don't understand what these guys are thinking.. Didn't he just drop 44 the other night.. Sure he has gotten a bit banged up this year but that happens to all players during a long season.. He will be fine..

[bl2k8]

Kobe's been on the decline PHYSICALLY since 06-07, skillwise he's just as good if not better as he was in 05-06, this is nothing new. Y'all finna be mad come June

[poido123]

YEA.. I am not a Kobe fan but I don't believe for a second he has slipped.. Kobe is still an amazing player who has gotten it done at the end of games this year.. Who the hell thinks this kid is slipping.?. If anything he is playing very well considering his messed up finger.. Anyone who disses Kobe at this point of the season just does not understand how a veteran like KObe thinks.. He is only worrying about the Playoffs..

Oh really? :lol

Kobe is for Kobe, his resume is all he cares about...

[RaceBannana]

Ive been saying it for two years.....
I started to notice it during the 2007-2008.

Remember a couple of dunks where he barely gets off the floor... Almost Okaforkesque.

[LA_Showtime]

Way too early to say. A healthy Kobe Bryant is a top 3 player, as seen earlier in the season, but the current Kobe looks as though he's slipped. Let's wait until the playoffs are over until we officially label him a "has been" though. :oldlol:

[mlh1981]

Fearless prediction:

Kobe WILL eventually decline.

[Allstar24]

Is Kobe Bryant on the decline? Yes he is injuring but that is a sign that his body is deteriorating after playing in the NBA since he was 17.

He is still a good player but it looks as though players like Kevin Durant, Stephen Jackson and Brandon Roy have surpassed him.

Do you think that Kobe Bryant is on the decline?
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Thanks for the laugh, now I'm in a good mood before I go to work.

[wally_world]

He'll out of the rotation come playoff time, BOOK IT

[Shih508]

He IS getting older and the injuries are a reflection of that. But declining? Please. The guy was arguably playing the best ball of his career before the injuries sprung up. He'll be fine once he gets healthy. Which means he needs to sit his ass DOWN for a few games. I can't believe how selfish he's being by continuing to play hurt. Home court won't mean a whole lot if LA doesn't know what Kobe's going to show up from game to game.

if prior to the injuries was kobe's best in his career... lol then kobe is really overrated

[Shih508]

Durant is alrdy a better player than kobe by LONG WAY at same age

Lebron > > > Wade > > > > Kobe/Melo/Durant now

only kobe stans still think their idol is still #1 or #2 in the league

[GollyImSoGully]

if prior to the injuries was kobe's best in his career... lol then kobe is really overrated

Not stat wise but efficiency wise it was his best season. Right, a 4 time champion at 31 is overrated? :oldlol:

This thread is gonna be a fun bump in June

[bizil]

I think Kobe's athletic ability has declined some. But he's still one of the top 2 players in the league with Lebron. MJ was still the best player in the league at 35 years old winning finals MVPs. MJ would have still been the best player in the league for another 2 years, if anything be regarded as the best perimeter player. When you have a well rounded game like Kobe or MJ you can still be the best without having the athletic ability you once had. Magic, Bird, and the Big O were never regarded as the best athletes. But they were considered the best players. So even when an MJ or Kobe's athletic ability declines they are so skilled that they will be regarded as a top 1 or 2 player in the league in their early to mid 30's.

[Horatio33]

sacramento are trying to save money, kevin martin and kenny thomas for kobe. lakers get a younger better player in martin, thomas makes salaries match and sacramento gets a player on the decline. its not like kobe has won a championship as the best player recently is it?

[catch24]

lmao @ Jax being "better" than Kobe. So dumb. When Kobe is 100% "healthy", we can start to evaluate his play on a more consistent basis.

[keep_it_real]

kobe has one bad month because of injuries and people are there to root him out lol...dont forget before his injuries he was neck and neck with lebron in the mvp race...cant wait for kobe to get healed and prove people wrong like he has been doing his entire career...

[bizil]

lmao @ Jax being "better" than Kobe. So dumb. When Kobe is 100% "healthy", we can start to evaluate his play on a more consistent basis.


I agree 100%! Let's take it easy! The first two guys closest to Kobe on the perimeter are LBJ and D-Wade. They have the all around package to their games, those two guys became all league defense after the Olympics. Lebron to me is arguably better than Kobe now, but for that last shot I still want Kobe taking it. And I don't mean by legacy Lebron is better because he hasn't been around long enough. Lebron is a better rebounder, that's expected because he is 6'8 265-270 pounds, pretty much the size of Karl Malone. Thus that makes him a more versatile defender because he can guard 1-4 or even 5. Lebron is even a better passer. But at 6'6 225 Kobe has no weaknesses in his game and has more ways to score than ANYBODY IN NBA HISTORY. Durant needs to pick up his D and passing ability, same for Melo.

Actually guys like LBJ, Wade, Joe Johnson, and Roy are the guys from the total package game that are the closest to Kobe. From a scoring take over the game standpoint Kobe, LBJ, Wade, Durant, and Melo are the top five in the league in that realm. Two different categories and you see why Kobe, LBJ, and Wade are the three best in the league. Melo and Durant are more from the Nique-Gervin-King school. Unstoppable scorers who can put on team on its back and score in the clutch. But Kobe, LBJ, and Wade give you that AND give you the complete, elite all around game. It's what seperated MJ, Magic, and Bird from Erving, Gervin, Nique, and King. With that said I would take Nique over a Pippen anyday because even though Pippen is a better all around player Nique can take over a game and put his team on his back. MJ, Havlicek, Bird, Rick Barry, Big O, LBJ, Kobe, Wade, GHill when he was right, and Penny when he was right had the all around game of Pippen or damn close AND could take over a game scoring the ball. So all around in some cases doesn't mean better. Just like I would take Melo and Durant over Roy or JJ. I just think Melo and Durant are so unstoppable scoring that the only perimeter guys I can take over them now are Kobe, LBJ, and Wade.

[Andrei89]

Is Kobe Bryant on the decline? Yes he is injuring but that is a sign that his body is deteriorating after playing in the NBA since he was 17.

He is still a good player but it looks as though players like Kevin Durant, Stephen Jackson and Brandon Roy have surpassed him.

Do you think that Kobe Bryant is on the decline?

Kobe Bryant declined right after shaq. After he got mad and raped that woman he was never the same Kobe again.

[Anton Chigurh]

Kobe Bryant declined right after shaq. After he got mad and raped that woman he was never the same Kobe again.

i thought u were leaving?

[AKADS]

yeah he looks horrible right now. /sarcasm

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

Kobe Bryant declined right after shaq. After he got mad and raped that woman he was never the same Kobe again.
Funny. :rolleyes:

[csklmf]

Yes. Still in the second quarter, scored 22 points on 8-12 FG.
Yes. He is declining.

[04mzwach]

Kobe is overrated. :lol

[bence23]

Taking my disses? I guess that's when white people are funny. When they steal our material. :rolleyes:

Anyways, he's in his 14th season...of course he's gonna decline. Name me a player after 14 season that didn't decline?
Steve Nash :cheers:

[GollyImSoGully]

Steve Nash :cheers:

False

[Batman]

Kobe had 0 assists tonight, how do you have 0 assists with Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum on your team. As of right now Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant are both better than Kobe Bryant.

[KingLeBronJames]

Kobe had 0 assists tonight, how do you have 0 assists with Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum on your team. As of right now Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant are both better than Kobe Bryant.
:banghead: Another ridiculous post about Kobe's 0 assists? You didn't watch the game neither did you?

[DirkLegend41]

:banghead: Another ridiculous post about Kobe's 0 assists? You didn't watch the game neither did you?
Seems like a lot of people didn't watch tonight's game on ESPN. :oldlol:

[RazorBaLade]

Kobe had 0 assists tonight, how do you have 0 assists with Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum on your team. As of right now Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant are both better than Kobe Bryant.

Andrew bynum played today? wat?

[chazzy]

Kobe had 0 assists tonight, how do you have 0 assists with Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum on your team. As of right now Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant are both better than Kobe Bryant.

This post is as terrible as that thing in your avatar

[Brujesino]

hes on the decline!!!!!!

kobe is so overrated 0 assists?!?!?!? with that team hes on?!?!?!?!?!

birdman had 1 assists therefore

birdman>>>>>>kobe

[KingsFan416]

hes on the decline!!!!!!

kobe is so overrated 0 assists?!?!?!? with that team hes on?!?!?!?!?!

birdman had 1 assists therefore

birdman>>>>>>kobe
This is getting old already with the Kobe with 0 assists thing.

[Heat007]

He's been on the decline for awhile.


And he was never that good to begin with. Most overrated player ever.

[Pursuer]

When you think about it. He has sustained multiple major knee surgeries, he's playing in his 15th year in the NBA, while having went to the very end of every playoffs since '08 and he has to produce and carry a big burden for the team every night. So inevitably he's on decline, those knees have just so many games in them.

[PHaYze]

He's been on the decline for awhile.


And he was never that good to begin with. Most overrated player ever.

Don't stop kid you're on fire.


You are an absolute moron.