Trade: Marcus Camby to Blazers, Steve Blake, Travis Outlaw to Clippers

[Rekindled]

http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=5407

The trade is official

[qrich]

First bad trade Dunleavy has made since he has gotten here (yes, I believe he was the mind behind the Jaric/Cassell swap along with the Wilcox/Radman one).

:mad:

[DuMa]

wtf man

[oh the horror]

With Outlaw coming to town, I think the clips should try to move Thorton.

[sergiorodriguez]

"Kobe Bryant will never play another game in a Lakers uniform"
:roll:

[ihatetimthomas]

Not sure why the CLipps would have done this unless they are just trying to give Camby a chance at the playoffs this year

[qrich]

Not sure why the CLipps would have done this unless they are just trying to give Camby a chance at the playoffs this year

Forget that, I would have rather have dealt him to the Spurs for Mason/Bonner/Finley and give him a shot at a ring (for some reason, I still think SAS will get it together), then to the Blazers just so he can have a first round exit.


With Outlaw coming to town, I think the clips should try to move Thorton.

Yup.

[ronnymac]

This means More bayless and andre miller. thats a good thing.

[oh the horror]

And I will say this....Steve Blake is a hell of a lot better as a backup to Baron than Sebastian Telfair. I think Telfair can be moved too.

[ihatetimthomas]

With Outlaw coming to town, I think the clips should try to move Thorton.

Outlaw is a half year rental. Highly doubtful he returns to the Clipps. And Al doesnt exactly have high value around the league

[ProfessorMurder]

Can someone explain why people are so high on Camby?

He's a weakside shot blocker, and rebounder... I don't get it. (Before people say I've never seen him play, yeah I have... Since he was on the Knicks in 98.)

[InspiredLebowski]

With Outlaw coming to town, I think the clips should try to move Thorton.
I saw somewhere Thornton's on the block, I think NBC's Pro Basketball Talk blog. He and Outlaw are more or less carbon copies. This deal doesn't make a lot of sense for Clipper land, you'd think there'd be a lot more value out there for an expiring with Camby's ability, maybe there's some future picks or something.

[BlueandGold]

Portland gets a 10/10/1/2 type player

[qrich]

Two struggling teams looked to each other for help on Monday.

The Los Angeles Clippers agreed to trade Marcus Camby to the Portland Trail Blazers for Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake, a source close to the situation told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

The 35-year-old Camby is second in the league in rebounding this season at 12.1 boards per game, to go along with 7.7 points. The Blazers have had a hole in the middle of their lineup since Gred Oden went down with a knee injury in December.

The 6-foot-9 Outlaw is averaging 9.9 points and 3.5 rebounds per game in his seventh season with Portland. Blake, a 6-3 guard, is putting up 7.6 points and 4.0 assists per game. He's coming off a 20-point, 12-assist game in a win over the Suns before the All-Star break.

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=4917644

[DuMa]

either this will make or break deandre jordan with his starting role now.

[qrich]

And I will say this....Steve Blake is a hell of a lot better as a backup to Baron than Sebastian Telfair. I think Telfair can be moved too.

Honestly, even Mardy Collins was a better backup to Baron than Telfair. Watching Bassy reminded me of when Rick Brunson started like 50 games a couple years back. I was hoping we'd dump Bassy & sign Shaun.


Outlaw is a half year rental. Highly doubtful he returns to the Clipps. And Al doesnt exactly have high value around the league

I won't be shocked if Outlaw isn't flipped to another team. Outlaw for Roger Mason?


Can someone explain why people are so high on Camby?

He's a weakside shot blocker, and rebounder... I don't get it. (Before people say I've never seen him play, yeah I have... Since he was on the Knicks in 98.)

A veteran who puts in effort, doesn't complain nor take touches away on the offensive end. Pretty hard to find.


either this will make or break deandre jordan with his starting role now.

I expect and hope Craig Smith starts, not DJ.

[ihatetimthomas]

I saw somewhere Thornton's on the block, I think NBC's Pro Basketball Talk blog. He and Outlaw are more or less carbon copies. This deal doesn't make a lot of sense for Clipper land, you'd think there'd be a lot more value out there for an expiring with Camby's ability, maybe there's some future picks or something.

That's what I was thinking. I mean, do they really expect Blake or Outlaw to re-sign with them? Basically its trading an expiring deal for an expiring deal. A few picks would have been nice

[Bigsmoke]

i find it funny that Camby is only a year younger than Howard.

but it good for Roy to have a rebounder and a shot blocker again.

[gts]

evidently portland thinks there's still room on the injured reserve list for one more...

[qrich]

FWIW - I'm told no deal at this time between Clippers/
Blazers. That doesn't mean there won't be 1 tomorrow - but it's premature

http://twitter.com/EricPincus/status/9174489428

[ihatetimthomas]

Can someone explain why people are so high on Camby?

He's a weakside shot blocker, and rebounder... I don't get it. (Before people say I've never seen him play, yeah I have... Since he was on the Knicks in 98.)

Given the fact that Juwan Howard is the Blazers staring center, Camby looks like Dwight Howard.

He is a true professional. Plays his heart out. I have watched him as a Clipp and he is the guy who always makes that extra effort to get the loose ball. And at his age and height, that's a rare commodity. Sure he has his weaknesses as all players do, but he is a very very good rebounder and plays with heart. Blazers should be ecstatic to have picked him up

[DuMa]

watch aldridge's game pick up a lot more than it has already. camby is gonna teach this fool how to rebound and defend better.

[oh the horror]

Camby will help them in the long run. Even when they do happen to get most of their players back in Portland.

[ProfessorMurder]

Given the fact that Juwan Howard is the Blazers staring center, Camby looks like Dwight Howard.

Haha yeah that is very true.


He is a true professional. Plays his heart out. I have watched him as a Clipp and he is the guy who always makes that extra effort to get the loose ball. And at his age and height, that's a rare commodity. Sure he has his weaknesses as all players do, but he is a very very good rebounder and plays with heart. Blazers should be ecstatic to have picked him up

I can see that, and it is rare for a guy to play like he does... Especially since he will fill a huge void in Portland right now. But people seem to talk about him like he's a serious game changer.

I know he could bring a contender over the top with his hustle, but I feel like people cream about him a little too much. I don't know, maybe I just have some lingering bad taste of the Knicks team losing to the Spurs in 99. :confusedshrug:

[ihatetimthomas]

watch aldridge's game pick up a lot more than it has already. camby is gonna teach this fool how to rebound and defend better.

I'd be happy to simply see the rebounding aspect. For a guy of his size and length, he is far too inconsistent on the glass.

[Skywalker]

Deandre Jordan 30 minutes with 8 ppg, 10 rpg and 2 bpg now?

[dyna]

Can someone explain why people are so high on Camby?

He's a weakside shot blocker, and rebounder... I don't get it. (Before people say I've never seen him play, yeah I have... Since he was on the Knicks in 98.)
And Outlaw and Blake??
:confusedshrug:

[qrich]

Deandre Jordan 30 minutes with 8 ppg, 10 rpg and 2 bpg now?

Along with 4.5 fouls per.

Like I said, I hope this opens more time for Rhino as well.

[ihatetimthomas]

Deandre Jordan 30 minutes with 8 ppg, 10 rpg and 2 bpg now?

Add the the mix 4-5 fouls per game and an increase in TO's

edit: qrich beat me to it

Lets not forget his 37% from the stripe. I like the kid, but he is still very very raw

[Skywalker]

just get me those BLAWKS baby

[Kumo]

:(

I hope Outlaw comes back.

[ihatetimthomas]

Blake could really bring some nice bball IQ to this team, which seemingly every player on this roster lacks.

I think Blake is pretty underrated. He is a very steady and solid pg. I think he will make the Clipper players better

[JordanL]

I'd be happy to simply see the rebounding aspect. For a guy of his size and length, he is far too inconsistent on the glass.

He's been averaging almost 9 per game since Przy went down. Not All-World, but certainly not as bad as people make him out to be.

[oh the horror]

Blake could really bring some nice bball IQ to this team, which seemingly every player on this roster lacks.

I think Blake is pretty underrated. He is a very steady and solid pg. I think he will make the Clipper players better



I agree. Although I hate to see Camby go. I think Blake will be solid for this Clippers team on the up and up. Outlaw is whatever to me, but Blake is a keeper.

[JordanL]

I agree. Although I hate to see Camby go. I think Blake will be solid for this Clippers team on the up and up. Outlaw is whatever to me, but Blake is a keeper.

Blake is solid no matter where he goes. Extremely underrated, simply because he has no flash to his game. But he's a solid player, with great IQ, incredible competitive attitude, and solid work ethic. I hope to see him in a Blazer uni again.

[qrich]

One source close to the situation initially said that the sides had agreed on the deal, but multiple sources later said that the deal was close but not completed. A Clippers source called the talks "substantive."


In a text message to ESPNLosAngeles.com, Camby said that he "hadn't heard anything about it" from either his agent or the Clippers. He has said that he would prefer to remain in Los Angeles, but he understands why his name continues to come up in trade talks.

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=4917644

[ihatetimthomas]

He's been averaging almost 9 per game since Przy went down. Not All-World, but certainly not as bad as people make him out to be.

I am just basing off his game logs. His average is decent, but he goes for 12 boards then 6. He just is not consistent enough.

[Eldrunko247]

I thought Camby was finished? This trade might help the Lakers out lol. Not sure if I like this trade for Portland.

[ihatetimthomas]

I thought Camby was finished? This trade might help the Lakers out lol. Not sure if I like this trade for Portland.

8/12/2 is not being done. He has been the Clippers most consistent player all year long.

[qrich]

I thought Camby was finished? This trade might help the Lakers out lol. Not sure if I like this trade for Portland.

How is Camby finished? #2 in rebounds per game, #6 in blocks & offensive rebounds per game, #1 in blocks per foul.

And of the players in top10 rebounding play more minutes than Marcus.

[TryToBeUnbias]

I thought Camby was finished? This trade might help the Lakers out lol. Not sure if I like this trade for Portland.
How will this help us out?
Are we magically taking blake off there hands.

[chazzy]

Good trade, Camby will fill in nicely. He's still a good rebounder and shot blocker

[qrich]

How will this help us out?
Are we magically taking blake off there hands.

You can have Bassy, not I'd keep Blake if this deal were to go down.

[Rafael Delaget]

How is Camby finished? #2 in rebounds per game, #6 in blocks & offensive rebounds per game, #1 in blocks per foul.

And of the players in top10 rebounding play more minutes than Marcus.

When you look at his rebounds, blocks, steals, and assists, compared to his turnovers and fouls, it's fcuking ridiculous.

[qrich]

Well, this Yahoo report makes me think its a done deal, just the final details need to be hamered out and the paperwork going to the NBA Front Office.

[quote]Los Angeles Clippers center Marcus Camby(notes) unknowingly attended his own farewell dinner on Monday night.

The Clippers are on the verge of completing a trade that will send Camby to the Portland Trail Blazers, league sources said, but the veteran center is not happy about the deal. Or the way he learned of it.

The proposed trade, which was first reported by Yahoo! Sports

[chazzy]

Well, this Yahoo report makes me think its a done deal, just the final details need to be hamered out and the paperwork going to the NBA Front Office.





http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=mc-cambytrade021510&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

That's.. depressing :cry:

[TheCord#20]

As a Blazer fan, i love this trade! I wish Blake and Outlaw the best of luck, but it's time for Batum and Bayless to take over their spots. Camby is a huge boost for the Blazers at the C spot.

[NY Comeback]

[QUOTE=qrich]Well, this Yahoo report makes me think its a done deal, just the final details need to be hamered out and the paperwork going to the NBA Front Office.



[QUOTE]Camby, 35, is averaging seven points and 12 rebounds for the Clippers. He is making $9.1 million this season in the final year of his contract. Just last week, he told Yahoo! Sports he hoped the Clippers wouldn

[Rafael Delaget]

I'm sorry, but....ROFL at that. :roll:

Craig Smith: "...so is he gonna eat that or what?"

[w00terz]

If this is true, I feel bad for Blazers fans. Camby is too old and not what he is cracked up to be.

[ihatetimthomas]

If this is true, I feel bad for Blazers fans. Camby is too old and not what he is cracked up to be.

At this point, the center position was the most needed upgrade on the roster. The Blazers have solid players to replace them in Bayless and Batum. Camby improves them and gives them more depth at their most needed position.

[TryToBeUnbias]

[QUOTE=Rafael Delaget

[dough]

Yahoo is reporting that Camby very upset back this deal and so are his teammates. One Clipper saying: "he basically got traded 4 a backup PG and money."
:oldlol:

[gmoney9]

Well, this Yahoo report makes me think its a done deal, just the final details need to be hamered out and the paperwork going to the NBA Front Office.





http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=mc-cambytrade021510&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
I think that one Clipper is upset that Camby gets to play for a contender while he's stuck with them

[LAClipsFan33]

F*ck you Dunleavy and f*ck you Donald Sterling

Let's trade a our best defensive player and 2nd best emotional leader for 2 backups. Yeah I'm sure we need to bring in another swingman. Go to hell Sterling !!!

[dab0yech0]

F*ck you Dunleavy and f*ck you Donald Sterling

Let's trade a our best defensive player and 2nd best emotional leader for 2 backups. Yeah I'm sure we need to bring in another swingman. Go to hell Sterling !!!

Dumbleavy needs to leave NOW! He had a great playoff run which may have been success as a result of the players listening to Cassell. The playoff run ended with Dumbleavys sub of an ice cold Daniel Ewing on Raja Bell. LEAVE DUMBLEAVY!


Yahoo is reporting that Camby very upset back this deal and so are his teammates. One Clipper saying: "he basically got traded 4 a backup PG and money."

Sounds like Baron

[qrich]

I just agree with DeAndre Jordan about the situation:


Smh!!!!!

http://twitter.com/deandrejordan/status/9174829207

[momo]

watch aldridge's game pick up a lot more than it has already. camby is gonna teach this fool how to rebound and defend better.

That's a very good point. CambyMan is real good at a few of the things LaMarc is not good at, or at least could bare to improve at.

[LAClipsFan33]

Dumbleavy needs to leave NOW! He had a great playoff run which may have been success as a result of the players listening to Cassell. The playoff run ended with Dumbleavys sub of an ice cold Daniel Ewing on Raja Bell. LEAVE DUMBLEAVY!



Sounds like Baron

Just when I thought it was safe because he ain't the coach anymore here we go...

Damn you you reject Dunleavy

Probably was Baron...I know he's real hot right now

[dab0yech0]

I just agree with DeAndre Jordan about the situation:



http://twitter.com/deandrejordan/status/9174829207

If the league fines him im gonna rat you out for posting this.

[ODEN>DURANT]

What do we do when Oden and Gorilla get back.

Oden, Billa, Camby?

BTW, all great defensive players IMO.

[MJ(Mean John)]

lmaoo Man im sorry but this is funny.


dab0yech0, Qrich,LAClipsFan33, and all the other clipper posters are killing me!!!! lmaoo


Just when I thought it was safe because he ain't the coach anymore here we go...

Damn you you reject Dunleavy

Probably was Baron...I know he's real hot right now




Dumbleavy needs to leave NOW! He had a great playoff run which may have been success as a result of the players listening to Cassell. The playoff run ended with Dumbleavys sub of an ice cold Daniel Ewing on Raja Bell. LEAVE DUMBLEAVY!




HAHA.. Damn just you guys calling him dumbleavy is so funny.

Now, on a serious note. WTF is this idiot thinking? Really now?

Camby for this crap? You dont even need those 2 scrubs. Clippers were already deep!

wow.


Portland gets a steal here, they REALLY needed a center and some shotblocking and size. Then they get Camby for a back up pg? and a back up wing?
wow.

Like portland has Roy, Dre Miller, Bayless and HAD blake and they just got rid of the weakest one.lol Wow.

It's funny, just friday I was talking with my barber and we were talking about the clips and about how the best thing they got going for them is camby and how they better not deal him.


aaagggghhh well.

[dr8ked]

What do we do when Oden and Gorilla get back.

Oden, Billa, Camby?

BTW, all great defensive players IMO.


:oldlol: Oden will have to take a big pay cut if they are going to keep him, dude aint done shit but end mutombo's career :oldlol: :oldlol:

[InspiredLebowski]

Twitter posts, giving quotes for stories (albeit anonymously), I know the franchise is dysfunctional but the players could take a little more of the "we know it's a business" approach, at least publicly.

[dough]

ALERT: ESPN has just taken down the link to the Blazer/Clipper trade. Don't know if that means anything but it was there one minute and now it is gone.
:applause:

[kentatm]

Add the the mix 4-5 fouls per game and an increase in TO's

edit: qrich beat me to it

Lets not forget his 37% from the stripe. I like the kid, but he is still very very raw


I didn't even think he was close to being ready to leave Texas A&M. He can't possibly be anywhere near capable of playing 30 min a game in the NBA yet.

[Al Thornton]

:applause:


whewwwwwwwww

please dun!

[RoseCity07]

Pritchard did it again?:roll:

Wow if we get the leagues 2nd best rebounder for a back up PG and Outlaw that will be amazing. I like Outlaw, but it really is time to move on since we have Batum.

Camby fills that perfect role we need with our centers gone. This trade is going to rival the Gasol trade for robbery.

[RoseCity07]

watch aldridge's game pick up a lot more than it has already. camby is gonna teach this fool how to rebound and defend better.

I'm going to pray for you are right on this one.

[Cermet]

this bullcrap we dont need camby. WTF are we going to do with him when Oden and Joel gets back?

[spree43]

Better to have too many injury prone centres than too many injury prone small forwards

And Camby expires at the end of the year anyway

[mamba24]

Pritchard did it again?:roll:

Wow if we get the leagues 2nd best rebounder for a back up PG and Outlaw that will be amazing. I like Outlaw, but it really is time to move on since we have Batum.

Camby fills that perfect role we need with our centers gone. This trade is going to rival the Gasol trade for robbery.

atleast we gave the grizz a chance to get Marc gasol...cant complain that lop sided deal turned the franchise around in just 2 years into a playoff contender.

what you guys are doing to the clippers is Rap-E

well they do like it up the arse anyway

[kurple]

great news for Nuggets fans!

Blazers are done this season with or without Camby, and Camby is gone next season
Blake was an great fit with Roy
Now the Nuggets can get Tyrus or someone else without the Blazers tradeblocking us

[mamba24]

great news for Nuggets fans!

Blazers are done this season with or without Camby, and Camby is gone next season
Blake was an great fit with Roy
Now the Nuggets can get Tyrus or someone else without the Blazers tradeblocking us

The bulls want expiring contracts who do you guys have to match tyrus thomas?

gonna send 4 expiring players earning 1 mill each to match tyrus thomas? cause thats all you guys have and chicago is not gonna take that

Minny is ready to offer them expiring contracts and draft picks.

the reason blazers could not get him is cause,they dont want to part with draft picks.

[kurple]

The bulls want expiring contracts who do you guys have to match tyrus thomas?

gonna send 4 expiring players earning 1 mill each to match tyrus thomas? cause thats all you guys have and chicago is not gonna take that

Minny is ready to offer them expiring contracts and draft picks.

the reason blazers could not get him is cause,they dont want to part with draft picks.

JR & Graham to GSW for Bell & George
George, Bell & Malik Allen to Bulls for Salmons & Thomas
Thomas & Salmons to Denver

Or something like that

[D-Rose]

Bucher posted


Sources: Camby for Outlaw/Blake is not done. Still needs owner approval and could unravel, but looks close. Details on the mothership site.

Link (http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64734/20100216/outlaw_blazers_clippers_deal_will_get_done/)


Travis Outlaw has told the Oregonian that his agent, Bill Duffy, informed him that a trade involving the Trail Blazers and Clippers should be completed on Tuesday.

"He said it is still being finished, but that it should go through," Outlaw said.

The rumored trade will send Marcus Camby to Portland in exchange for Outlaw, guard Steve Blake and cash. Ironically, Portland and Los Angeles will face off on Thursday night.

Blazers general manager Kevin Pritchard said the deal is "not done."

"I'm cool with it," Outlaw said of the trade. "It doesn't bother me. This is a business. I'll just go somewhere else and play. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the opportunity Portland gave me, but I also know it's a business."

Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64734/20100216/outlaw_blazers_clippers_deal_will_get_done/#ixzz0fhmrs2SD


Looks like this will be the first domino to fall today.

[kumquat]

great news for Nuggets fans!

Blazers are done this season with or without Camby, and Camby is gone next season
Blake was an great fit with Roy
Now the Nuggets can get Tyrus or someone else without the Blazers tradeblocking us


I'd like to see the Nuggets get another low IQ bonehead like Tyrus Thomas. Should make a great fit with JR. :oldlol:

Blake's constant inability to create his own shot, passing the ball off so many times with 5 seconds on the clock and not even trying to get to the basket was rediculous. Calling him a great fit with Roy is like calling Eric Snow a great fit with Iverson. They both suck balls.

The only difference with this seasons roster is Oden and Pryz are done. Too say Camby is a waste is pretty moronic.

[kurple]

I'd like to see the Nuggets get another low IQ bonehead like Tyrus Thomas. Should make a great fit with JR. :oldlol:

Blake's constant inability to create his own shot, passing the ball off so many times with 5 seconds on the clock and not even trying to get to the basket was rediculous. Calling him a great fit with Roy is like calling Eric Snow a great fit with Iverson. They both suck balls.

The only difference with this seasons roster is Oden and Pryz are done. Too say Camby is a waste is pretty moronic.

Blazers with all the injuries, but with Camby isn't an threat to the Nuggets. And Camby will be gone by the time Blazers are dangerous again.

The Blazers can't tradeblock the Nuggets, and the chances that the Nuggets will get the final big are increasing (Big Ben, Ronny Turiaf, McDyess, DeAndre Jordan & Tyrus Thomas has been mentioned)

Blake is a much better fit than Andre Miller:
- Roy needs the ball in his hands to be effective
- Miller needs the ball in his hands to be effective
- The perfect PG next to Roy is someone who can shoot the 3 (spread the floor) and defend
- Blake is a much better shooter, they are both solid defenders.

I'm extremely happy with this trade ! Does the Blazers give up any draft picks? that would be GREAT

[Joshumitsu]

Blazers with all the injuries, but with Camby isn't an threat to the Nuggets. And Camby will be gone by the time Blazers are dangerous again.

The Blazers can't tradeblock the Nuggets, and the chances that the Nuggets will get the final big are increasing (Big Ben, Ronny Turiaf, McDyess, DeAndre Jordan & Tyrus Thomas has been mentioned)

Blake is a much better fit than Andre Miller:
- Roy needs the ball in his hands to be effective
- Miller needs the ball in his hands to be effective
- The perfect PG next to Roy is someone who can shoot the 3 (spread the floor) and defend
- Blake is a much better shooter, they are both solid defenders.

I'm extremely happy with this trade ! Does the Blazers give up any draft picks? that would be GREAT

Keep on hoping!

[HylianNightmare]

boooo

[CelticsDraftee]

This is a great move for Portland. They get a solid big man and simultaneously dump one of their forwards (they're loaded at the forward spot!). They probably won't be able to contend for a title this year, but the move at least helps them with their playoff chances.

[kurple]

I'm not saying this isn't a great move for Portland cuz they need an big this season to make the playoffs, but it could turn out to be an great deal for the Nuggets aswell

I also do think they will miss blake, but it's not like he cant be replaced this offseason

[ZeN]

Im dissapointed that this is the package that Mike got for Camby. I was under the impression that Marcus had bigger value. The better thing to have done is gain a pick or a young prospect given the direction of the franchine. But what is done is done. Hopefully Dun can redeem himself by way of another but better trade.. one that hopefully involves Thornton.

[SoCalMike]

Im dissapointed that this is the package that Mike got for Camby. I was under the impression that Marcus had bigger value. The better thing to have done is gain a pick or a young prospect given the direction of the franchine. But what is done is done. Hopefully Dun can redeem himself by way of another but better trade.. one that hopefully involves Thornton.

I still don't get this move... unless Camby demanded a trade???



:pimp:

[mamba24]

I still don't get this move... unless Camby demanded a trade???



:pimp:

according to reports camby was out for dinner with kaplan and he got the news and walked out of the restaurant. he is unhappy about this as he settled into LA and wanted to re-sign in the summer.

camby is old and i really dont see him as that guy who wants a title to define anything in his career.

He wants the money, the weather and the family...basketball is last right now...its a job for him.

Portland is all rain...he's definitely pissed off.

[Big.Nasty]

Oh my god u gotta be shitting me....the clippers suck big time...i love the clippers when odom, miles and maggette were on the roster...but after all this years i thought they will find a way to transform into a playoff team....but i was total wrong, i mean come on, they give up CAMPY ???? He

[WhySoInsecure?]

I don't know if anyone mentioned it but the clippers got 3mil in this deal. That's a lot of money especially when you're a joke of a franchise with dim hopes of making the playoffs.

Play your young guns, lose some games and hope all goes well next year when Blake is back.

[dough]

[QUOTE=Big.Nasty]Oh my god u gotta be shitting me....the clippers suck big time...i love the clippers when odom, miles and maggette were on the roster...but after all this years i thought they will find a way to transform into a playoff team....but i was total wrong, i mean come on, they give up CAMPY ???? He

[mamba24]

Camby trade complete; What's next?
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Marcus Camby | Clippers Top Email

With Brendan Haywood being traded to the Mavericks, the Trail Blazers were left with a smaller pool of big men to fill in for the injured Greg Oden and Joel Przybilla via a trade.

So in that vein, ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher reports the Los Angeles Clippers are close to trading Marcus Camby to Portland for Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake.

Marc J. Spears of Yahoo! Sports has just confirmed via sources the trade is now complete with the Blazers sending an additional $3 million.

Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports tweets the Clips choose this deal because of the money: "That's why Clips chose this deal -- not anything else."

With all parties in this trade on expiring contracts, the Clippers shaved about $1.5 million off their payroll, as Blake and Outlaw are making a combined $7.6 million, while Camby is making $9.1 million. Add in the extra $3 million the Blazers, and the Clips are winners financially.

Since this deal didn't hurt them money-wise, they'll have the cash to go after a free agent this summer. Add in a talent around Baron Davis, Chris Kaman, Eric Gordon and Blake Griffin next year, and the team has the potential to make some noise.

For the Blazers, they finally get the big man they've been seeking since Oden and Przybilla went down. If Camby performs well for the Blazers, there's a chance they could re-sign him for next season to potentially fill in for Juwan Howard, who's contract is up after this year




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[SoCalMike]

according to reports camby was out for dinner with kaplan and he got the news and walked out of the restaurant. he is unhappy about this as he settled into LA and wanted to re-sign in the summer.

camby is old and i really dont see him as that guy who wants a title to define anything in his career.

He wants the money, the weather and the family...basketball is last right now...its a job for him.

Portland is all rain...he's definitely pissed off.

Good point. That makes sense... remember how upset he was when Denver traded him? I guess he's the type that does not like to relocate his family, etc., so I understand his point.


:pimp:

[Rafael Delaget]

what language do they speak in australia?!

Strine (seriously look it up)

[gmoney9]

Clippers got a lot more for Camby than what the Nuggets got for him from the Clips when he had more value

[boozehound]

Clippers got a lot more for Camby than what the Nuggets got for him from the Clips when he had more value
nuggs needed to shed his contract for $

[ZeN]

Expect Camby to announce season ending surgery.

[Rafael Delaget]

So the Clips could have had:

Z-Bo (all-star)
Tyreke Evans (ROY)
Camby (2nd leading rebounder, 6th leading shotblocker, crazy efficient)

But instead they have:

Blake Griffin (hasn't played a minute)
Craig Smith, Sebastian Telfair, Ricky Davis, Steve Blake, Travis Outlaw (enough said)

:banghead:

[sacredcow]

I'm not saying this isn't a great move for Portland cuz they need an big this season to make the playoffs, but it could turn out to be an great deal for the Nuggets aswell

I also do think they will miss blake, but it's not like he cant be replaced this offseason

We can just re-sign Blake/Outlaw in the offseason. I don't mind missing out on Blake but Outlaw I wanted to at least get a feel to see where his game is at since he bulked up 10/15 pounds since his injury.

On the radio they were talking about how with Roy being out with his hamstring, he's had a change to see how Millers game works and they both think they've found a way to work well together. I can't wait to see if its true.

[JustinJDW]

Hell yeah.

[bagelred]

They could have had Jared Jeffries for Blake and Outlaw, and Knicks would have paid THEM $3 million.

Tsk tsk tsk.....nice going Portland.

[bdreason]

Clippers could have got more for Camby's expiring contract + current value.

[daboywonder2002]

Good point. That makes sense... remember how upset he was when Denver traded him? I guess he's the type that does not like to relocate his family, etc., so I understand his point.


:pimp:

why would he have to relocate his family though? i doubt the blazers even keep him after this year? with oden and pryz coming back

[bagelred]

why would he have to relocate his family though? i doubt the blazers even keep him after this year? with oden and pryz coming back

Exactly. Can't his family just stay in L.A. for next 3 months until Marcus decides his next career move? Marcus is on the road 1/2 the time anyway for road games. Does his family really have to move to Portland?

[niko]

Marcus Camby isn't the brightest bulb i think. He was explaining his tatoos on TV once, and he was wrong about what the characters are and mean. Basically, he has two gigantic chinese characters on his arm and they mean something completely different than what he thinks.

Maybe he's just confused..

[daboywonder2002]

so is camby a one year rental? i dont get why portland would give up so much money for a one year rental? im assuming they think they can get more value in a trade for a top 15 center compared to going the expiring contracts/sign a free agent route.

[dough]

fun things:

- clippers play blazers tonight. will camby suit up? he'll be there. and they dont have to take physicals perse since theyre expirings.

- the clippers 'just' made 1.5 mil (difference in contracts is -1.5 mil, and they got back +3 mil)

[dough]

so is camby a one year rental? i dont get why portland would give up so much money for a one year rental? im assuming they think they can get more value in a trade for a top 15 center compared to going the expiring contracts/sign a free agent route.


1.5 mil isnt that much, as they extend their playoff chances further now.

[qrich]

Thinking more about this deal, yes, I do think the Clippers could have received way more in return, but this wasn't a bad trade at all. Outlaw was a player that Dunleavy was going to go after in the offseason most likely, and now, we have a look at him to see how he does on the Clippers with Gordon, Kaman & Boom. It also gives Rhino & Jordan more time to develop to see how they do. Plus, the $3 mil received could be used to buy a 1st in the 20s or a couple of 2nd rounders.

Plus I expect another trade on the horizon with Telfair &/or Thornton and I seriously wouldn't doubt if Dunleavy tries to sign Camby again in the offseason

[dough]

Ricky Davis has been released.


That's the whole idea behind this deal!

[leopoldstotch]

looking at this trade ...

good for the blazers this year.
great for the clippers in the future.

their starting 5 next year:

Davis
Gordon
Outlaw
Griffin (if he's healthy)
Kaman

and the bench:
Blake
Thornton
DeAndre Jordan
Skinner
Mardy Collins

My pick as most improved team by the end of next year.

[ihatetimthomas]

Thinking more about this deal, yes, I do think the Clippers could have received way more in return, but this wasn't a bad trade at all. Outlaw was a player that Dunleavy was going to go after in the offseason most likely, and now, we have a look at him to see how he does on the Clippers with Gordon, Kaman & Boom. It also gives Rhino & Jordan more time to develop to see how they do. Plus, the $3 mil received could be used to buy a 1st in the 20s or a couple of 2nd rounders.

Plus I expect another trade on the horizon with Telfair &/or Thornton and I seriously wouldn't doubt if Dunleavy tries to sign Camby again in the offseason

I honestly like the fact that the CLipps got Blake over Outlaw. Blake is going to bring some real stability to the point guard position. No knock to Baron, but he is not a true point guard. Blake can run a team better imo. He has done very well in the last 2 teams he has been with in the Nuggets and Blazers. I think he and Baron will have nearly the same minutes, with Baron a tad bit more. He has always found a way to get PT. Very intelligent player

[ihatetimthomas]

looking at this trade ...

good for the blazers this year.
great for the clippers in the future.

their starting 5 next year:

Davis
Gordon
Outlaw
Griffin (if he's healthy)
Kaman

and the bench:
Blake
Thornton
DeAndre Jordan
Skinner
Mardy Collins

My pick as most improved team by the end of next year.

Well Outlaw and Blake are expiring contracts so there is no guarantee at all that they will be around next year

[sacredcow]

looking at this trade ...

good for the blazers this year.
great for the clippers in the future.

their starting 5 next year:

Davis
Gordon
Outlaw
Griffin (if he's healthy)
Kaman

and the bench:
Blake
Thornton
DeAndre Jordan
Skinner
Mardy Collins

My pick as most improved team by the end of next year.

Blake and Outlaw are expiring contracts. They won't be there next year. I expect Outlaw to be back in a Blazers uniform next season.

[el_locoteee]

watch aldridge's game pick up a lot more than it has already. camby is gonna teach this fool how to rebound and defend better.

He will teach the soft way to be a good defender.

[ihatetimthomas]

He will teach the soft way to be a good defender.

At least help him become a better weakside defender

[Myth]

Glad I have tickets to the game on Friday vs the Celtics.

[dough]

Actually, being a long time clippers fan: If Camby really wanted to resign and we did him dirty this way...I'm saying **** the Clippers. **** them. He wanted to come back help us build. He was a pro all the time he was here, never complained and played hard, and this is how we thank him?

I;ve been saying all the time: if he would like to go to a contender, let's facilitate him, let's involve him in his future. He's a great vet who has been great for us. I want to know the details and if the Clippers front office ****ed him over, I'm not supporting the Clippers anymore. That's right I'm giving up on my team untill Dunleavy is moved or Sterling dies.

[dough]

btw rumour has it the grizzlies offered conley for blake and also were interested in outlaw. who knows what we can get from them.

[kurple]

3 team trade?

[dough]

3 team trade?

how? since the trade between por and la is official

[qrich]

how? since the trade between por and la is official

Was probably referring to your previous post about Blake and Outlaw being wanted.

Would basically be a three team trade if we flipped them over to another squad

[CLTHornets4eva]

Blake and Outlaw are expiring contracts. They won't be there next year. I expect Outlaw to be back in a Blazers uniform next season.

Great trade for the Clippers. Good trade for Portland, I think they lose some depth at PG, but maybe it will really help Miller. I think if they made the trade, the Clippers will have every intention on resigning Outlaw. Not really any contract shedding as all players are all expiring, but Portland gets a great bookend for Aldridge.

[Rafael Delaget]

He will teach the soft way to be a good defender.

God it's ridiculous how much hate Camby gets on internet forums. 12 rebounds and 2 blocks per game, playing next to an all-star center, on a team that's below average in terms of pace. He also gets 3 assists per game (despite playing next to one of the biggest ball-dominating point guards in the league), and averages more steals than turnovers. All this from a guy who's a month shy of his 36th birthday.

Spare us that cliched "Camby sux at man D" shit, and give the man some fcuking credit.

[kurple]

how? since the trade between por and la is official

No.

you called yourself a long time Clippers fan, but you said what could "we" get (assume you are talking about the clippers) in a deal between Blazers & Grizz

[dough]

No.

you called yourself a long time Clippers fan, but you said what could "we" get (assume you are talking about the clippers) in a deal between Blazers & Grizz
i understand what you meant, but i meant since we have blake now, maybe we can get something out of the grizz for him instead.

maybe we could swap blake + outlaw or blake + thorn to memphis for something. maybe an expiring like gay or whatever. i dont know. i dont care very much either. wasted season which even ****s over some good vibes we had going on.

[qrich]

[QUOTE=Rafael Delaget

[dough]

Camby's D looked worse because of the perimeter players he played with before Billups arrived wasnt up to par. Not saying he was great, but seeing perimeter players drive and dish made Camby's man to man look worse than it was, since he's always looking out for help defense.

Mark my words: Kaman will struggle the next few months.

[el_locoteee]

[QUOTE=Rafael Delaget

[ppierce34]

I agree. Camby's stats make you think he has a bigger impact than he does in reality. He's a good shotblocker, but he's so interested in getting the blocked shot he'll camp out in the paint and not rotate or step out to defend. He's lazy in transition, can't defend bigs well down low, and a terrible pick and roll defender. While being a strong rebounder, I can remember numerous times I've seen him fight his own teammates who had better position for rebounds and the ball ends up out of bounds or in the other team's hands. He's not a bad player by any means, but his value is overstated by a lot of people. He's not the defensive player people think he is and him getting the DPOY award was a joke to me.

[el_locoteee]

I agree. Camby's stats make you think he has a bigger impact than he does in reality. He's a good shotblocker, but he's so interested in getting the blocked shot he'll camp out in the paint and not rotate or step out to defend. He's lazy in transition, can't defend bigs well down low, and a terrible pick and roll defender. While being a strong rebounder, I can remember numerous times I've seen him fight his own teammates who had better position for rebounds and the ball ends up out of bounds or in the other team's hands. He's not a bad player by any means, but his value is overstated by a lot of people. He's not the defensive player people think he is and him getting the DPOY award was a joke to me.

This

[D-Rose]

Clippers should have forced Telfair in this deal as well, bc right now it looks like an idiotic deal for them aside from the $.

[kurple]

I agree. Camby's stats make you think he has a bigger impact than he does in reality. He's a good shotblocker, but he's so interested in getting the blocked shot he'll camp out in the paint and not rotate or step out to defend. He's lazy in transition, can't defend bigs well down low, and a terrible pick and roll defender. While being a strong rebounder, I can remember numerous times I've seen him fight his own teammates who had better position for rebounds and the ball ends up out of bounds or in the other team's hands. He's not a bad player by any means, but his value is overstated by a lot of people. He's not the defensive player people think he is and him getting the DPOY award was a joke to me.

great post

[Connoisseur]

Lol @ how no one realizes how much Travis Outlaw will benefit the Clippers.

Epic deal for LA.

[BlazersDozen]

I love this trade for the Blazers.

Travis Outlaw is not going to improve defensively because he's too dumb. He has a low basketball IQ and is overrated by a lot of fans and people in the NBA due to his length and his athletic ability and for some reason people think he's a good defender when he is always lost in zone and always on his heels on man on man assignments. People also say he can create his own shot which is true only half the time. He can create his own shot when hes's playing the power forward position because he has the speed factor on his side against most the league's other power forwards but he is terrible against small forwards (which is his true position).

Travis Outlaw at best is instant offense off the bench.

Moving Steve Blake is no big deal since the Blazers have so much invested in Andre Miller and now Bayless is playing well.

Neither of these players will remain with these teams next season and I don't think neither of these players will be returning to their former teams either.

But the Blazers win out on this trade because they have added a shot blocker and good rebounder and moves Juan Howard to the bench and takes pressure off Aldridge to do things that arn't really in his game (rebound & block shots) so this is a good rental.

[Al Thornton]

I seriously wouldn't doubt if Dunleavy tries to sign Camby again in the offseason

im hoping for this too

[Aldridge Fan]

I like this trade. It's not a blockbuster trade by all means but gives us a great player in the paint and good mentor for the young guys. Also, this will free up some of the frustration of the lineup spots for our guards and small forward. Batum is more consistent than outlaw and a better defender. Watch this kid become something special. Bayless is great as well. Watch him grow now that he has the minutes.

[Rafael Delaget]

And His team suck big time for the talent they got, and Denver got a lot better with his interior defense since he left. The guy is stats and nothing else his impact is minor for a guy with 12Reb and 2Block a game.

Do you know what Denver's defense was like before Camby got there? Here, let me show you.

Denver's defensive rating ranks since 97-98

97-98: 29th out of 29
98-99: 29
99-00: 20
00-01: 26
01-02: 26

(Marcus Camby joins Nuggets)

02-03: 6
03-04: 13
04-05: 8
05-06: 13
06-07: 11
07-08: 10

(Marcus Camby leaves Nuggets)

08-09: 8
09-10: 15

But yeah, keep on trotting out that "Camby left and their defense got way better" nonsense.

[dough]

Mark my words: Kaman will struggle the next few months.

And so it starts.

[ronnymac]

The clippers offerd the rockets camby for lowry and ariza. obviously the rockets rejected it straightaway. ariza is not great, but lowry is a gem and we should'nt trade him.

[kurple]

[QUOTE=Rafael Delaget

[NugzFan]

Pritchard did it again?:roll:

Wow if we get the leagues 2nd best rebounder for a back up PG and Outlaw that will be amazing. I like Outlaw, but it really is time to move on since we have Batum.

Camby fills that perfect role we need with our centers gone. This trade is going to rival the Gasol trade for robbery.

obligatory rosecity homer post in any portland thread. :oldlol:

[NugzFan]

[QUOTE=Rafael Delaget

[Joshumitsu]

obligatory rosecity homer post in any portland thread. :oldlol:

Lol, I'm surprised no one has started a rosecity troll account yet.