Definitive Kobe & Lebron - List of Game Winners Thread

[Jordan-esque]

KOBE BRYANT
Current Total = 28
Buzzer Beaters = 8
Game Winning Field Goals = 25
Game Winning 3-Pointers = 4
Game Winning Free Throws = 3

Dec. 27, 1999: Lakers 108 - Mavericks 106 (game-winning FTs w/ 8.6 secs)

May 09, 1999: Lakers 101 - Rockets 100 (PO, game-winning FTs w/ 5.3 secs)

May 10, 2000: Lakers 97 - Phoenix 96 (PO, jumper over Jason Kidd w/ 2.6 secs)

Feb. 07, 2001: Lakers 85 - Phoenix 83 (jumper over Shawn Marion w/ 2.7 sec)

Feb. 13, 2001: Lakers 113 - Nets 110 (OT layup/and-1 w/ 4.8 secs)

Jan. 02, 2002: Lakers 87 - Nuggets 86 (off-reb and jumper w/ 55 secs)

Feb. 22, 2002: Lakers 96 - Hornets 94 (buzzer-beater, jumper over George Lynch)

May 12, 2002: Lakers 87 - Spurs 85 (PO, off-reb and put-back w/ 5.1 secs)

Dec. 06, 2002: Lakers 105 - Mavericks 103 (turn-around jumper w/ 8 secs)

April 04, 2003: Lakers 102 - Grizzlies 101 (buzzer beater, jumper over Shane Battier)

April 06, 2003: Lakers 115 - Suns 113 (OT, game-tying jumper for OT, jumper over Shawn Marion w/ 28.6 sec)

Dec. 19, 2003: Lakers 101 - Nuggets 99 (buzzer-beater, fade-away over Jon Barry)

Feb. 17, 2004: Lakers 89 - Blazers 86 (left-handed layup w/ 31.8 secs + FT)

Mar. 21, 2004: Lakers 104 - Bucks 103 (OT jumper over Keith Van Horn w/ 25.1 sec)

April 14, 2004: Lakers 105 - Blazers 104 (OT, game-tying 3-pointer for OT, fall-away buzzer beater 3-pointer)

Mar. 12, 2005: Lakers 117 - Bobcats 116 (jumper over Keith Bogans w/ 0.9 secs)

Nov. 02, 2005: Lakers 99 - Nuggets 97 (OT, jumper over Ed Najera w/ 0.6 secs)

Dec. 04, 2005: Lakers 99 - Bobcats 98 (game-winning FTs w/ 7 secs)

Jan. 12, 2006: Lakers 99 - Cavaliers 98 (jumper over LeBron James w/ 8.6 secs)

April 30, 2006: Lakers 99 - Suns 98 (PO, OT, game-tying tear-drop for OT, buzzer beater jumper over Boris Diaw)

Jan. 14, 2008: Lakers 123 - Sonics 121 (OT jumper over Jeff Green w/ 4.3 secs)

Jan. 09, 2009: Lakers 121 - Pacers 119 (jumper over Jarrett Jack w/ 3 secs)

Dec. 04, 2009: Lakers 108 - Heat 107 (buzzer-beater, 3-pointer over Dwyane Wade)

Dec. 16, 2009: Lakers 107 - Bucks 106 (OT buzzer-beater, jumper over Charlie Bell)

Jan. 01, 2010: Lakers 109 - Kings 108 (buzzer-beater, 3-pointer)

Jan. 31, 2010: Lakers 90 - Celtics 89 (jumper over Ray Allen w/ 7.3 secs)

Feb. 23, 2010: Lakers 99 - Grizzlies 98 (3-pointer over Rudy Gay w/ 4.3 secs)

Mar. 09, 2010: Lakers 109 - Raptors 107 (jumper over Antoine Wright w/ 1.9 secs)
Percentage of GW that are Field Goals: 89 %
Percentage of GW that are Free Throws: 11 %
Percentage of GW that are 3-Pointers: 15 %
Percentage of GW that are Buzzer Beaters: 30 %

List compiled by Jordan-esque, contributions Jminges, Nobody, Just-Ming.

LEBRON JAMES
Current Total = 12
Buzzer Beaters = 2
Game Winning Field Goals = 9
Game Winning 3-Pointers = 1
Game Winning Free Throws = 3

Mar. 22, 2006: Cavaliers 120 - Bobcats 118 (jumper over Jumaine Jones w/ 0.9 secs)

April 10, 2006: Cavaliers 103 - Hornets 101 (jumper over Desmond Mason w/ 0.5 secs)

April 28, 2006: Cavaliers 97 - Wizards 96 (PO, bank-shot over Mike Ruffin w/ 5 secs)

May 03, 2006: Cavaliers 121 - Wizards 120 (PO, layup w/ 0.9 secs)

May 31, 2007: Cavaliers 109 - Pistons 107 (PO, layup w/ 2.2 secs)

Jan. 17, 2008: Cavaliers 90 - Spurs 88 (layup w/ 33.6 secs)

Jan. 30, 2008: Cavaliers 84 - TrailBlazers 83 (layup w/ 0.9 secs)

Feb. 22, 2008: Cavaliers 90 - Wizards 89 (game-winning FTs w/ 7.8 secs)

Jan. 23, 2009: Cavaliers 106 - Warriors 105 (buzzer-beater, jumper over Ronnie Turiaf)

Mar. 01, 2009: Cavaliers 88 - Hawks 87 (game-winning FT w/ 1.6 secs)

May 22, 2009: Cavaliers 96 - Magic 95 (PO buzzer-beater, 3-pointer over Hedo Turkolgu)

Jan. 25, 2010: Cavaliers 92 - Heat 91 (game-winning FT w/ 4.1 secs)
Percentage of GW that are Field Goals: 75 %
Percentage of GW that are Free Throws: 25 %
Percentage of GW that are 3-Pointers = 8 %
Percentage of GW that are Buzzer Beaters: 17 %

List compiled by Just-Ming, contributions Jordan-esque.

CARMELO ANTHONY
Current Total = 13
Buzzer Beaters = 1
Game Winning Field Goals = 12
Game Winning 3-Pointers = 3
Game Winning Free Throws = 0

Dec. 17, 2003: Nuggets 99 - Sonics 98 (layup w/ 6 secs)
Dec. 15, 2004: Nuggets 100 - Celtics 99 (jumper w/ 3.6 secs)
Jan. 8, 2006: Nuggets 92 - Rockets 90 (jumper over David Wesley w/ 1 sec)
Jan. 10, 2006: Nuggets 139 - Suns 137 (3OT, jumper w/ 2.9 secs)
Feb. 24, 2006: Nuggets 102 - Timberwolves 101 (3-pointer over Trenton Hassell w/ 3.4 secs)
Mar. 15, 2006: Nuggets 101 - Pacers 99 (fade-away jumper w/ 2.2 secs)
Apr. 6, 2006: Nuggets 110 - Lakers 108 (OT, jumper over Devean George w/ 3.8 secs)
May 9, 2009: Nuggets 106 - Mavericks 105 (PO, 3-pointer over Antoine Wright w/ 1 sec)
Jan. 2, 2009: Nuggets 122 - Thunder 120 (3-pointer over Desmond Mason w/ 0.1 sec)
Feb. 4, 2009: Nuggets 114 - Thunder 113 (runner w/ 5.3 secs)
Mar. 27, 2009: Nuggets 103 - Mavericsk 101 (layup and FT w/ 12 secs)

Feb. 18, 2010: Nuggets 118 - Cavaliers 116 (OT, jumper over LeBron James w/ 1.9 secs)

Mar. 27, 2010: Nuggets 97 - Cavaliers 96 (buzzer-beater)
Percentage of GW that are Field Goals: 100 %
Percentage of GW that are Free Throws: 0 %
Percentage of GW that are 3-Pointers = 20 %
Percentage of GW that are Buzzer Beaters: 8 %

List compiled by Jordan-esque.


DWYANE WADE
Current Total = 11
Buzzer Beaters = 4
Game Winning Field Goals = 9
Game Winning 3-Pointers = 2
Game Winning Free Throws = 2

Dec. 14, 2003: Heat 90 - Raptors 89 (jumper w/ 28 secs and key block)
Apr. 18, 2004: Heat 81 – Hornets 79 (PO, 7 ft. jumper w/ 1.3 seconds)
Nov. 19, 2004: Heat 107 – Jazz 105 (OT buzzer-beater, jumper over Raja Bell)
Mar. 15, 2005: Heat 98 – Knicks 96 (buzz-beater, 22 ft. jumper)
Nov. 7, 2005: Heat 90 – Nets 89 (game-winning 1 of 2 FTs w/ 5.2 seconds)
Feb. 12, 2006: Heat 100 – Pistons 98 (PO, 16 ft. jumper w/ 2.3 seconds)
Jun. 18, 2006: Heat 101 – Mavericks 100 (OT Playoffs, game-winning 2 of 2 FTs w/ 1.9 seconds)
Dec. 18, 2006: Heat 101 – Hornets 99 (fadeaway jumper w/ 1.3 seconds)
Dec. 22, 2007: Heat 104 – Jazz 102 (buzz-beater, 20 ft. jumper)
Mar. 9, 2009: Heat 130 – Bulls 127 (OT buzz-beater, running 3-pointer off a steal)
Nov. 14, 2009: Heat 81 – Nets 80 (3-pointer w/ 0.1 seconds)
Percentage of GW that are Field Goals: 82%
Percentage of GW that are Free Throws: 18 %
Percentage of GW that are 3-Pointers = 18 %
Percentage of GW that are Buzzer Beaters: 36 %

List compiled by Gmoney9, contributions Shaqfan1.

This thread will be updated when necessary whenever one hits a game winning shot.

If you find other games and would want to contribute, just PM me and I will review those games and give you proper credit!

Btw, if anyone's curious by how many Jordan had:

MICHAEL JORDAN
Total = 28
Buzzer Beaters = 9
Game Winning Field Goals = 22
Game Winning 3-Pointers = 2
Game Winning Free Throws = 6

Nov. 11, 1984: Bulls 118 - Pacers 116 (jumper with 4 secs)
Dec. 7, 1984: Bulls 95 - Knicks 93 (jumper w/ 5 secs)
Mar. 26, 1985: Bulls 120 - Pacers 119 (game-winning FT's with 5 secs)
Apr. 24, 1985: Bulls 109 - Bucks 107 (PO, jumper with 22 secs)
Oct. 25, 1985: Bulls 116 - Cavaliers 115 (game-winning FT, makes 1-2 FT)
Nov. 11, 1986: Bulls 112 - Hawks 110 (layup with 9 secs)
Nov. 21, 1986: Bulls 101 - Knicks 99 (jumper with 1 sec)
Feb. 12, 1988: Bulls 95 - Bucks 93 (game-winning FT's with 2 secs)
Apr. 3, 1988: Bulls 112 - Pistons 110 (game-winning Ft's with 4 secs)
Apr. 15, 1988: Bulls 100 - Nets 99 (jumper with 20 secs)
Feb. 16, 1989: Bulls 117 - Bucks 116 (jumper with 1 sec)
May 7, 1989: Bulls 101 - Cavaliers 100 (PO, buzzer-beater jumper over Craig Ehlo)
May 19, 1989: Bulls 113 - Knicks 111 (PO, game-winning FT's with 4 secs)
May 27, 1989: Bulls 99 - Pistons 97 (PO, jumper with 3 secs)
Nov. 13, 1990: Bulls 84 - Jazz 82 (buzzer-beater over Thurl Bailey)
Jan. 22, 1992: Bulls 115 - Hornets 112 (layup and-1)
Nov. 11, 1992: Bulls 98 - Pistons 96 (buzzer-beater 3-pointer)
May 17, 1993: Bulls 103 - Cavaliers 101 (buzzer-beater jumper over Gerald Wilkins)
Mar. 25, 1995: Bulls 99 - Hawks 98 (buzzer-beater over Steve Smith)
Feb. 11, 1997: Bulls 103 - Hornets 100 (buzzer-beater 3-pointer)
Mar. 18, 1997: Bulls 89 - Sonics 87 (OT, game-winning FT's)
Jun. 1, 1997: Bulls 84 - Jazz 82 (PO, buzzer-beater jumper)
Feb. 13, 1998: Bulls 112 - Hawks 110 (buzzer beater jumper over Chucky Brown)
Mar. 22, 1998: Bulls 102 - Raptors 100 (fade-away with 5 secs)
Jun. 14, 1998: Bulls 87 - Jazz 86 (PO, jumper with 5.2 secs)
Dec. 22, 2001: Wizards 87 - Knicks 86 (jumper over Latrell Sprewell w/ 3.2 secs)
Jan. 21, 2002: Wizards 93 - Cavaliers 92 (buzzer-beater jumper)
Feb. 15, 2002: Wizards 97 - Suns 96 (jumper over Shawn Marion with 0.2 secs)
Percentage of GW that are Field Goals: 79 %
Percentage of GW that are Free Throws: 21 %
Percentage of GW that are 3-Pointers = 7 %
Percentage of GW that are Buzzer Beaters: 32 %

Of the 28 Game Winners: (25 with Bulls / 3 with Wizards)
Of the 9 Buzzer Beaters: (8 with Bulls / 1 with Wizards)

List compiled by Mitchell, M. Burns, contributions Jordan-esque, NBAStatman.

[Jordan-esque]

If I find some time, I may expand this to possibly include Melo and Wade among others.

[Dave3]

Great work on actually tracking this stuff down. :cheers: Would rep is it was still available.

[catch24]

Wow, nice work bud. 29 GW's for Kobe, smh.

[HylianNightmare]

yeah putting wade and melo on there would be really cool

where did you get all the info

good work i'd rep too

[Indian guy]

16-12 in Kobe's favor since 03-04. About what I expected.

[kuzdeen]

good thread, i just think you should "Career Game Winners " to the title to avoid trolling

[Younggrease]

16-12 in Kobe's favor since 03-04. About what I expected.

starts to make you wonder doesnt it...

[Indian guy]

starts to make you wonder doesnt it...

Wonder what exactly?

[lilbeastnani]

Wow, Kobe only has 8 buzzer beaters for his entire career? I guess this regular season is like the season of his life in terms of clutch play.

[Younggrease]

Wonder what exactly?

kobe hits a gamewinner and the relevant comparison to ESPN is shots where the team is within 1 possession...

that means if the Cavs are up 3 with 22 seconds to go and Lebron scores that it would count. What the hell does an overinclusive stat like that have to do with the game that happened yesterday. The obvious stat to use would have bee gamewinners but that stat favored Kobe in every way they could frame it.

[Indian guy]

that means if the Cavs are up 3 with 22 seconds to go and Lebron scores that it would count.

Wasn't ESPN's stat for field goals made with no shot clock though(24 seconds or less)? Teams would be intentionally fouling LeBron in that case, not letting him make a basket.

[Younggrease]

Wasn't ESPN's stat for field goals made with no shot clock though(24 seconds or less)? Teams would be intentionally fouling LeBron in that case, not letting him make a basket.

said nothing about no shot clock.

[Jordan-esque]

If anyone's curious by how many Jordan had:

MICHAEL JORDAN
Total = 27
Buzzer Beaters = 9
Game Winning Free Throws = 6

Nov. 11, 1984: Bulls 118 - Pacers 116 (jumper with 4 secs)
Dec. 7, 1984: Bulls 95 - Knicks 93 (jumper w/ 5 secs)
Mar. 26, 1985: Bulls 120 - Pacers 119 (game-winning FT's with 5 secs)
Apr. 24, 1985: Bulls 109 - Bucks 107 (PO, jumper with 22 secs)
Oct. 25, 1985: Bulls 116 - Cavaliers 115 (game-winning FT, makes 1-2 FT)
Nov. 11, 1986: Bulls 112 - Hawks 110 (layup with 9 secs)
Nov. 21, 1986: Bulls 101 - Knicks 99 (jumper with 1 sec)
Feb. 12, 1988: Bulls 95 - Bucks 93 (game-winning FT's with 2 secs)
Apr. 3, 1988: Bulls 112 - Pistons 110 (game-winning Ft's with 4 secs)
Apr. 15, 1988: Bulls 100 - Nets 99 (jumper with 20 secs)
Feb. 16, 1989: Bulls 117 - Bucks 116 (jumper with 1 sec)
May 7, 1989: Bulls 101 - Cavaliers 100 (PO, buzzer-beater jumper over Craig Ehlo)
May 19, 1989: Bulls 113 - Knicks 111 (PO, game-winning FT's with 4 secs)
May 27, 1989: Bulls 99 - Pistons 97 (PO, jumper with 3 secs)
Nov. 13, 1990: Bulls 84 - Jazz 82 (buzzer-beater over Thurl Bailey)
Jan. 22, 1992: Bulls 115 - Hornets 112 (layup and-1)
Nov. 11, 1992: Bulls 98 - Pistons 96 (buzzer-beater 3-pointer)
May 17, 1993: Bulls 103 - Cavaliers 101 (buzzer-beater jumper over Gerald Wilkins)
Mar. 25, 1995: Bulls 99 - Hawks 98 (buzzer-beater over Steve Smith)
Feb. 11, 1997: Bulls 103 - Hornets 100 (buzzer-beater 3-pointer)
Mar. 18, 1997: Bulls 89 - Sonics 87 (OT, game-winning FT's)
Jun. 1, 1997: Bulls 84 - Jazz 82 (PO, buzzer-beater jumper)
Feb. 13, 1998: Bulls 112 - Hawks 110 (buzzer beater jumper over Chucky Brown)
Mar. 22, 1998: Bulls 102 - Raptors 100 (fade-away with 5 secs)
Jun. 14, 1998: Bulls 87 - Jazz 86 (PO, jumper with 5.2 secs)
Jan. 21, 2002: Wizards 93 - Cavaliers 92 (buzzer-beater jumper)
Feb. 15, 2002: Wizards 97 - Suns 96 (jumper over Shawn Marion with 0.2 secs)

Of the 27 Game Winners: (25 with Bulls / 2 with Wizards)
Of the 9 Buzzer Beaters: (8 with Bulls / 1 with Wizards)

List by Mitchell, M. Burns, compiled by Jordan-esque.

[ProfessorMurder]

Post Jordan's in here too if you've got them... Then it will turn into a legendary fight thread.

^
Edit: He posted a second before me.

[Dave3]

If anyone's curious by how many Jordan had:

MICHAEL JORDAN
Total = 27
Buzzer Beaters = 9
Game Winning Free Throws = 6
Really? Kobe already has more gamewinners? I can honestly say I did not know that...

[phoenix18]

Post Ray Allen's in here too if you've got them... Then it will turn into a legendary fight thread.

^
Edit: He posted a second before me.

This.

[lakerspng]

This year Kobe's just in the zone on GW shots. If he gets another 10 attempts, he'll probably hit 8 of them the way it's going for him.

[kurple]

http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

That list has Kobe at 14

[Jordan-esque]

http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

That list has Kobe at 14
If you read carefully, that's starting at the 2003-2004 season when LeBron came in.



Really? Kobe already has more gamewinners? I can honestly say I did not know that...
Kobe and Jordan are actually tied.

[hihellohi765]

http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

That list has Kobe at 14
That list started in 03-04 and doesn't include this seasons...so 14 is right.

[MVP]

http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

That list has Kobe at 14

"Game Winning Shot Opportunity = 24 seconds or less left in the game, team with the ball is either tied or down by 1 to 2 points. "


I disagree with that definition. There are various of scenarios in the circumstance described that make it not a game winning shot opportunity. 24 secs to go, maybe you only have 14 secs to go on shot clock, that is not really game winning shot in my opinion. Or there is case where u r down by 2 points where the coach drawn up a play to just tie the game, that is not really a game winning shot opportunity either. The definition is just wrong in so many senses. It is probably an indication whether a player is clutch. But, if u really think about it. There are really a difference, between being clutch in last couple minutes of the game, to game winner which the lists in this thread have presented, to a buzzer beater. They are just all different

[kurple]

If you read carefully, that's starting at the 2003-2004 season when LeBron came in.


AHA!

[Dave3]

Kobe and Jordan are actually tied.
Oh..yeah. For some reason when I saw Jordan at 27 I thought Kobe was 28. Sorry about that.

[Bodhi]

Are you not counting the shot Kobe hit over the Mavericks this season with ~25 seconds left?

[Jordan-esque]

Are you not counting the shot Kobe hit over the Mavericks this season with ~25 seconds left?
That's actually an "EVENTUAL" game-winning shot, if we go by NBA.com's Mitchell's definition of Game-Winning Shots, since he's the one that listed Michael Jordan's game-winners (otherwise Jordan would have a few more in his list too if he added "eventual" game-winners).

Games like these are some of Kobe's "eventual" game-winners:

Nov. 16, 2000: Lakers 112 - Kings 110
June 14, 2000: Lakers 120 - Pacers 118
Mar. 24, 2002: Lakers 97 - Kings 96
Dec. 22, 2002: Lakers 109 - Raptors 107

Because those were games where Kobe may have hit the eventual game-winner with either: the Lakers already up by a possession (i.e. NBA Finals Pacers game) or the other team fouled the Lakers to make concession free throws after the Kobe eventual game-winning shot.

The Dallas game this year is considered "eventual" since Dallas fouled other Laker players for concession free throws after Kobe buried the what-was-supposed-to-be-game-winning-jumper over Josh Howard.

[pete's montreux]

I'd love to see one for Pierce. He must've hit 2-3 every season.

[GOBB]

Gotta give props where props are due. Good work. Not a fan of the repeated Kobe/Bron topics (yes GW'ers have been discussed alot) but the listings are a good source. I trust these are legit and nothing was left out or sneaky listing. :cheers:

[1~Gibson~1]

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[gmoney9]

great job finding the info.

[Andrei89]

No doubt Kobe is a closer, he is one of the biggest clutch players the NBA hasever seen.

But Lebron is better overall which makes him superior, no need for clutch if you can't keep up the score to the end.

[KenneBell]

no need for clutch if you can't keep up the score to the end.
That's one of the dumbest things I've heard all day.

[Doranku]

rofl @ ESPN somehow manipulating LeBron's GWers to more than double what they actually are. :roll:

Should put an asterisk next to the Wizards' GWers imo considering he took a total of about 9 steps between both of them. :oldlol:

[Mr Clutch Melo]

That's one of the dumbest things I've heard all day.

U mad?

Beat you Andrei

Just kidding btw:lol

[GOBB]

That's one of the dumbest things I've heard all day.

If you ever come across his posts? Give it a chance and read. He's notorious for saying dumb things.

[KenneBell]

If you ever come across his posts? Give it a chance and read. He's notorious for saying dumb things.
I know. I can barely read his posts. Dude really needs a personal ESL teacher.

[Jordan-esque]

rofl @ ESPN somehow manipulating LeBron's GWers to more than double what they actually are. :roll:

Should put an asterisk next to the Wizards' GWers imo considering he took a total of about 9 steps between both of them. :oldlol:
Keyword: Field Goals Made (NOT Game-Winners).

That ESPN stat going around just shows Field Goals Made within a 1 possession game (in other words: score < to 3 points max).

Meaning the Cavaliers may be down 3 points when LeBron made the basket, and they could've still lost the game by 1 point. Or even that the Cavaliers could already be up by 3 points when LeBron made that shot, basically putting the game away.

Same situation with Kobe and the Lakers.

That ESPN stat does not say they are Game-Winning shots (although the wording is somewhat vague that apparently has a lot of people thinking they're talking about Game-Winners).

Keyword: Field Goals Made (NOT Game-Winners).

[Andrei89]

That's one of the dumbest things I've heard all day.

Is it that dumb you stupid queer

What does it matter if you are clutch if you can't keep up the score to the end?

Does Kobe score the game winner when they are down by 20

Stupid f*ck

Same with GOBB

[catch24]

Dan Le Batard from PTI just referenced the 82 games website/game winning shot section and then says he'd take Lebron over Kobe: "Screw the dramatics, Lebron has made more on less shots". Guess he doesn't know that site hasn't been updated since Feb of 2009.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Kobe might go down as the most clutch player the game has ever seen :applause:

No Kobe troll, honestly speaking.

[LA_Showtime]

Not all that surprising, although I thought LeBron had more than that. Either way, put LeBron on the Lakers and it doesn't matter if he's clutch or not, because the Lakers are winning every game by 50 points.:oldlol:

[SAKOTXA]

Not all that surprising, although I thought LeBron had more than that. Either way, put LeBron on the Lakers and it doesn't matter if he's clutch or not, because the Lakers are winning every game by 50 points.:oldlol:

I would say 70. :ohwell:

[YAWN]

nice work, repped*

[gmoney9]

I looked up Dwyane Wade's games and here is what I got for his results. OP can add if wanted:

Dwyane Wade
Current Total = 10
Buzzer Beaters = 4
Game Winning Field Goals = 8
Game Winning Free Throws = 2


April 18, 2004: Heat 81 – Hornets 79 (Playoffs, 7 ft. jumper w/ 7.3 seconds)
November 19, 2004: Heat 107 – Jazz 105 (OT Buzzer-Beater, jumper over Raja Bell)
March 15, 2005: Heat 98 – Knicks 96 (Buzz-Beater, 22 ft. jumper)
November 7, 2005: Heat 90 – Nets 89 (Game Winning 1 of 2 FTs w/ 5.2 seconds)
February 12, 2006: Heat 100 – Pistons 98 (Playoffs, 16 ft. jumper w/ 2.3 seconds)
June 18, 2006: Heat 101 – Mavericks 100 (OT Playoffs, Game Winning 2 of 2 FTs w/ 1.9 seconds)
December 18, 2006: Heat 101 – Hornets 99 (fadeaway jumper w/ 1.3 seconds)
December 22, 2007: Heat 104 – Jazz 102 (Buzz-Beater, 20 ft. jumper)
March 9, 2009: Heat 130 – Bulls 127 (OT Buzz-Beater, running 3-pointer off a steal)
November 14, 2009: Heat 81 – Nets 80 (3-pointer w/ 0.1 seconds)

[Jordan-esque]

I looked up Dwyane Wade's games and here is what I got for his results. OP can add if wanted:

Dwyane Wade
Current Total = 10
Buzzer Beaters = 4
Game Winning Field Goals = 8
Game Winning Free Throws = 2


I was basically starting one for Wade too!

I confirmed everything in your list. Though the first one in the list is actually at 1.3 seconds left, but nice!

Thanks!

[NBASTATMAN]

KOBE BRYANT
Current Total = 27
Buzzer Beaters = 8 (
Game Winning Field Goals = 24
Game Winning Free Throws = 3


LEBRON JAMES
Current Total = 12
Buzzer Beaters = 2
Game Winning Field Goals = 9
Game Winning Free Throws = 3


This thread will be updated when necessary whenever one hits a game winner.

If anyone's curious by how many Jordan had:

MICHAEL JORDAN
Total = 27
Buzzer Beaters = 9
Game Winning Field Goals = 21
Game Winning Free Throws = 6


MJ had at least three with the wizards.. I am sure of that...





December 22, 2001 vs. New York, 87-86
Michael Jordan takes a couple dribbles to get separation from Sprewell, and drains the shot to seal the victory with 3.2 seconds left


I believe MJ has more but I don't have the time to look them up at this time.. I will do it later though...

[Fatal9]

Bird would be interesting, though his teams weren't playing as many close games as the rest of these guys and he had like a million game winning assists. He'd still be up there though, he is the only player I know who has made buzzer beaters in back to back nights...

[NBASTATMAN]

This year Kobe's just in the zone on GW shots. If he gets another 10 attempts, he'll probably hit 8 of them the way it's going for him.


I gotta agree with this.. :bowdown:

[NBASTATMAN]

Can the amazing people who made this list compile assists for winnners? I know lebron has to have at least 6 or 7...

[cotdt]

So basically Kobe just needs to hit 1 more game-winner to become the clutchest player in basketball history?

[NBASTATMAN]

So basically Kobe just needs to hit 1 more game-winner to become the clutchest player in basketball history?


Not if you are counting how many misses he has as well... He has alot more misses than MJ... Bird may have more winners than either one of them.. Really hard to go back and look at Birds' game winners..

[Jordan-esque]

MJ had at least three with the wizards.. I am sure of that...
You might be thinking about the Wizards 107 - Pacers 104 game in Double OT.

If it is, it's not considered a definite game-winner because although Jordan put the Wizards up with a 2-point lead, he didn't score the last points (Laettner did extending the lead to 4 points).

[GollyImSoGully]

Great list. Great job.

[Jordan-esque]

MJ had at least three with the wizards.. I am sure of that...

[B]December 22, 2001 vs. New York, 87-86

Nice! Will add and credit!

[rs98762001]

Two things:

1. It would be interesting to compare these stats with the amount of game-winning shot attempts each player has taken.

2. Bryant is seriously clutch. I had no idea he'd already gotten to MJ's level statistically (although I would venture to guess MJ's % in these situations was probably better). However I think Kobe needs to hit a couple of these game-winning shots in the playoffs and specifically in the Finals to really cement his legacy as a clutch performer on the Bird/Jordan level. The best and most important shot I recall him hitting in the playoffs was the 3 that sent Lakers/Pistons Game 2 to overtime. Sadly that wasn't a game-winning shot, and it was the only game the Lakers were able to win in that series.

[NBASTATMAN]

You might be thinking about the Wizards 107 - Pacers 104 game in Double OT.

If it is, it's not considered a definite game-winner because although Jordan put the Wizards up with a 2-point lead, he didn't score the last points (Laettner did extending the lead to 4 points).

December 22, 2001 vs. New York, 87-86
Michael Jordan takes a couple dribbles to get separation from Sprewell, and drains the shot to seal the victory with 3.2 seconds left

[RazorBaLade]

Two things:

1. It would be interesting to compare these stats with the amount of game-winning shot attempts each player has taken.

2. Bryant is seriously clutch. I had no idea he'd already gotten to MJ's level statistically (although I would venture to guess MJ's % in these situations was probably better). However I think Kobe needs to hit a couple of these game-winning shots in the playoffs and specifically in the Finals to really cement his legacy as a clutch performer on the Bird/Jordan level. The best and most important shot I recall him hitting in the playoffs was the 3 that sent Lakers/Pistons Game 2 to overtime. Sadly that wasn't a game-winning shot, and it was the only game the Lakers were able to win in that series.

Don't forget the 2 shots against the suns in the playoffs (more importantly the game winner)

[DixieNourmous]

Great Job!

I think the only realistic challenger that is not mentioned is "Mr.Clutch" himself Jerry West.

I wonder if he got that name because in his time 10 game winning shots were GOAT or if he has some ridiculous amount of game winners.


Great Thread / Great work. props:rockon:

[NBASTATMAN]

Nice! Will add and credit!


Thanks.. Mj also made the game winning shot in the Finals 1997 Game 5 over Utah when he played with the flu... But there was around 25 seconds left in the game and he hit a 3 that made the score 88-85.. There was more scoring afterword but that was a game winner in my opinion...I understand that it was around 25 seconds left so it may not count.. Still that is as big a shot that Mj has ever hit.. Well except for his last as BULL..

[rs98762001]

Don't forget the 2 shots against the suns in the playoffs (more importantly the game winner)
Yeah but that was the second round, wasn't it? If that's Kobe's greatest playoff legacy, it's kind of weak. All the clutchest shots in the Finals have seem to come from Fisher or Horry. I'm just saying I'm surprised that Bryant doesn't have a defining shot/moment on the game's biggest stage.

[NBASTATMAN]

Yeah but that was the second round, wasn't it? If that's Kobe's greatest playoff legacy, it's kind of weak. All the clutchest shots in the Finals have seem to come from Fisher or Horry. I'm just saying I'm surprised that Bryant doesn't have a defining shot/moment on the game's biggest stage.


First round, one was a game winner the other tied the game up...

[GollyImSoGully]

Yeah but that was the second round, wasn't it? If that's Kobe's greatest playoff legacy, it's kind of weak. All the clutchest shots in the Finals have seem to come from Fisher or Horry. I'm just saying I'm surprised that Bryant doesn't have a defining shot/moment on the game's biggest stage.

Kobe against the Pistons game 2? Kobe taking game 4 over against Indiana when Shaq fouled out at the age of 21? That's what made a household name. How quickly people forget. He dominated that overtime.

[RazorBaLade]

Yeah but that was the second round, wasn't it? If that's Kobe's greatest playoff legacy, it's kind of weak. All the clutchest shots in the Finals have seem to come from Fisher or Horry. I'm just saying I'm surprised that Bryant doesn't have a defining shot/moment on the game's biggest stage.

I don't think what Kobe's done in the playoffs clutch wise be that across a few min like the game vs Indiana that the previous poster mentioned or against PHX taking it to a 3-1 lead with people like Kwame brown and smush parker in the starting line up should be labeled as weak/unimpressive as you're sayin. Also consider that it's a fact that the Lakers have always been a better playoff team than a reg season team and besides the final series in boston which didn't really have close games and the kobe 1 game shaq 1 game show in finals vs det the finals have been relatively a cakewalk for lakers with kobe, and same with the other series really. Either there's no close games and he doesn't get the chance or he gets a chance and nails it. I don't know how much attempts kobe has had for gamewinners in the playoffs but I'm sure that even though the makes are drastically lower than reg season the attempts are also something to consider.

[rs98762001]

Kobe against the Pistons game 2? Kobe taking game 4 over against Indiana when Shaq fouled out at the age of 21? That's what made a household name. How quickly people forget. He dominated that overtime.
I mentioned Pistons Game 2 earlier as probably his signature moment in the playoffs. What makes it less memorable is the fact that it wasn't the gamewinning shot, merely the shot to take it to overtime, nor was it in a winning cause ultimately, as the Lakers lost that series and Kobe played terribly except for that one game.

Game 4 against Indiana was certainly a highlight, and he was incredible in the overtime- but I don't remember him hitting a game-winning shot, which is what this thread is about. My point is that West, Bird, Jordan, Magic, etc, all had career-defining game winners in the Finals, which is something Kobe lacks (to date) and it would be a nice cherry on the top of his legacy if he could get it.

[rs98762001]

I don't think what Kobe's done in the playoffs clutch wise be that across a few min like the game vs Indiana that the previous poster mentioned or against PHX taking it to a 3-1 lead with people like Kwame brown and smush parker in the starting line up should be labeled as weak/unimpressive as you're sayin. Also consider that it's a fact that the Lakers have always been a better playoff team than a reg season team and besides the final series in boston which didn't really have close games and the kobe 1 game shaq 1 game show in finals vs det the finals have been relatively a cakewalk for lakers with kobe, and same with the other series really. Either there's no close games and he doesn't get the chance or he gets a chance and nails it. I don't know how much attempts kobe has had for gamewinners in the playoffs but I'm sure that even though the makes are drastically lower than reg season the attempts are also something to consider.
Yeah, but it's not as though the Lakers in Kobe's era have lacked memorable game-winners in the playoffs. It's just that they were hit by Horry or Fisher, not by Bryant.

[plowking]

How does a Lebron layup with 33.6 seconds count as a game winner?

[Fatal9]

How does a Lebron layup with 33.6 seconds count as a game winner?
And Kobe's shot vs. Mavs this year doesn't? :confusedshrug:

It was a tie game with 28 seconds left, Kobe hit the shot. Mavs miss their last attempt and don't score another point after Kobe's shot (though foul after the miss).

[NBASTATMAN]

And Kobe's shot vs. Mavs this year doesn't? :confusedshrug:

It was a tie game with 28 seconds left, Kobe hit the shot. Mavs miss their last attempt and don't score another point after Kobe's shot (though foul after the miss).


That shouldn't be a game winner.. If its more than 30 seconds I am sure I can find alot more for MJ...

[plowking]

And Kobe's shot vs. Mavs this year doesn't? :confusedshrug:

It was a tie game with 28 seconds left, Kobe hit the shot. Mavs miss their last attempt and don't score another point after Kobe's shot (though foul after the miss).

That doesn't count either.

I thought the general rule was inside 8 seconds.

EDIT: It's 24 seconds.

[plowking]

Yeah, so you should take 4 off Kobe's list, and 1 off Lebron's.

If that's the criteria, I could find more for both Jordan and Wade.

[Fatal9]

Yea, the lists have a bunch of 24+ second shots for KB and Lebron while all of MJs are under 24 secs, with most being with under 10 secs left. Don't think there was an even standard here by whoever made the list :oldlol:

I can think of 15 Bird game winners off the top of my head btw (if we are including game winning FTs I would say he is easily over 20). Would not be surprised if he was right there at the top, which is shocking considering a) Bird played under 900 games in his career and b) his Celtics were dominant for an entire decade and weren't really in as many close games as some of these other players. I really think he might have the best shooting % in the clutch, top 5 in most game winners and for me he is the best game 7 performer in NBA history too. Dude was unbelievably clutch.

[NBASTATMAN]

Yeah, so you should take 4 off Kobe's list, and 1 off Lebron's.

If that's the criteria, I could find more for both Jordan and Wade.


I am sure Mj hit one vs the Nets in 2003.. I was in NY for a business trip and caught the game... But I believe there were around 30 seconds left on the clock.. That is one I don't even have to look up...

[godofgods]

If you are so good, you should not have too many GWs as the games shouldn't have been close.

[NuggetsFan]

Someone should do Melo's. I wouldn't be surprised if he was ahead of LeBron\Wade. I remember looking at that 82games site and he hit them at a higher % too if I remember correctly.

Even if you hate Kobe you can't deny the mans a cold blooded killer at the end of games. Looks like he's got an extremely good chance to pass MJ in that area.

[Reggie43]

Miller and Bird probably has more than those two. I heard that reggie had 14 gamewinners in one year alone.

[Amil23]

I think Kobe is clutch but give me MJ,Bird and Reggie Miller at the end of games before him.Other players are also debatable.

[NBASTATMAN]

Miller and Bird probably has more than those two. I heard that reggie had 14 gamewinners in one year alone.


GET THE FCUK OUT OF HERE

[Scribbles]

I am pretty sure that the Kobe list is missing a couple because If I remember correctly, Kobe surpassed Jordan in GW's this game:

Jan. 09, 2009: Lakers 121 - Pacers 119 (jumper over Jarrett Jack w/ 3 secs)



Or am I thinking of a list of clutch shots?

[Disaprine]

good job in putting down espn's bullshit. :applause:

[Reggie43]

GET THE FCUK OUT OF HERE

I wont really doubt that reggie had something close to that in a season since they were involved in a lot of tight games in the 90's

[andgar923]

Somebody already brought this up, but I think to get a true perspective we need to know their fga%.


I mean, is somebody that shot 23 and only made 10 more clutch than somebody that shot 15 and made 9 for example?

I also don't like some of the definitions used for clutch, because a team can be down and a player can single handedly go on a 4th quarter rampage and not hit the game winner. So what are the player's stats in the 4th quarter 'overall' since I'm sure its hard to collect games in which they dominated the 4th.

I also think Chuck was clutch as well from what I recall, and so was Ewing, Hakeem, DRob, and a few others. They made plays on both sides of the court that eventually won them the game.

[Jordan-esque]

That doesn't count either.

I thought the general rule was inside 8 seconds.

EDIT: It's 24 seconds.
There's no general rule in regards to time.

Example:

Someone can score the last basket at the 2-minute mark; and if:
1) That basket is the last points scored in the game and...
2) That basket determined the outcome of the game (putting your team ahead when the score before was either: -1 spread or simply a tie)...

Then... that shot will be considered a game-winning shot without regard to the time. Because that shot was the last shot MADE that WON the game.

The whole thing with "time" i.e. less than 10 seconds, within a minute, were all stats just used to show +/- percentages, or basically different kinds of +/- possession percentages. But they do not show actual game-winning shots made. Big difference.

The one used by NBA.com to compile Michael Jordan's Game-Winners (as a Bull) does not have a rule in regards to the time of the shot.

[plowking]

There's no general rule in regards to time.

Example:

Someone can score the last basket at the 2-minute mark; and if:
1) That basket is the last points scored in the game and...
2) That basket determined the outcome of the game (putting your team ahead when the score before was either: -1 spread or simply a tie)...

Then... that shot will be considered a game-winning shot without regard to the time. Because that shot was the last shot MADE that WON the game.

The whole thing with "time" i.e. less than 10 seconds, within a minute, were all stats just used to show +/- percentages, or basically different kinds of +/- possession percentages. But they do not show actual game-winning shots made. Big difference.

The one used by NBA.com to compile Michael Jordan's Game-Winners (as a Bull) does not have a rule in regards to the time of the shot.

I'm sure Jordan has more than a few games where he hit a shot to put the Bulls up with 30+ seconds to go, and that was a game winner. There obviously are rules, as the general consensus on 82games 24 seconds.

It's not the same thing if you hit the first two points and they end up being the only points of the game. It's not the same pressure, nor shot that you are given by the defense.

[Jordan-esque]

I'm sure Jordan has more than a few games where he hit a shot to put the Bulls up with 30+ seconds to go, and that was a game winner. There obviously are rules, as the general consensus on 82games 24 seconds.

According to Mitchell, that's it (in regards to Jordan as a Bull at least).

When he compiled his list originally on NBA.com, it didn't include a rule for a set time; other sites like 82games do that for dramatic effect to show clutch percentage, etc. But in simple terms, the original NBA list basically just looks for: the LAST points scored that WON the game.

This list is NOT called the "List of Game Winning Shots under 24 Seconds or Less".

This list is just simply called the "List of Game Winning Shots".

[plowking]

According to Mitchell, that's it (in regards to Jordan as a Bull at least).

When he compiled his list originally on NBA.com, it didn't include a rule for a set time; other sites like 82games do that for dramatic effect to show clutch percentage, etc. But in simple terms, the original NBA list basically just looks for: the LAST points scored that WON the game.

This list is NOT called the "List of Game Winning Shots under 24 Seconds or Less".

This list is just simply called the "List of Game Winning Shots".

I'm just saying, most people when they look at the title "Game Winning Shots" they think of games where that guy was the hero, not where another team couldn't capitalize. Sure you made the clutch shot, though it's not the same thing IMO. It's no where near as much pressure.

[steelpulse]

According to this site http://www.23jordan.com/shots1.htm, Jordan's got 33 game winners. Check it out

Can someone pls post REGGIE and BIRD's gamewinners. thank you

[plowking]

I think Kobe is clutch but give me MJ,Bird and Reggie Miller at the end of games before him.Other players are also debatable.

These myth that Reggie was a clutch machine has to be cleaned up. He failed at just about every big moment in the playoffs bar one. He really didn't step up...

[Leviathon1121]

Fatal, although it would be a huge undertaking, I would be interested to know not only Birds total, but his percentage on them as well. I am pretty sure Jordan is documented at shooting them at just over 50%, and I am sure Bird is over 50% as well.

And codt, Bryant's clutch shooting % is extremely low, I don't think he even breaks 40% on them, so there is no way in hell he is going to be considered the "clutchest" ever simply because he has a few more total.

[kNIOKAS]

at this point i have to say game winners are overrated. forget them. you don't play nearly 48 minutes then to rely on single shot.

[Jordan-esque]

According to this site http://www.23jordan.com/shots1.htm, Jordan's got 33 game winners. Check it out

Can someone pls post REGGIE and BIRD's gamewinners. thank you
LOL!

If you check the years "1990-1992" on that site, they double posted 5 games from past years, hence it's a lot more!

Link: [ulr]http://www.23jordan.com/shots3.htm[/url]

^ The 1988-1989 Milwaukee, Detroit, Cleveland, NY, and Utah games are double-posted.

They need to fix and get that site updated!

:roll:

[Jordan-esque]

Just added Denver Nuggets Carmelo Anthony's list.

Too bad I can't change the thread title :(

I'm triple checking to make sure there's nothing I missed (I came across a lot of Earl Boykins game winners with the Nuggets though), but feel free to PM if you found others and want to contribute and I will give you credit.

One thing I noticed with Melo is that all his GW (so far) are all Field Goal attempts (no FT's). Amazing!

Thanks!

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Somebody already brought this up, but I think to get a true perspective we need to know their fga%.


I mean, is somebody that shot 23 and only made 10 more clutch than somebody that shot 15 and made 9 for example?

I also don't like some of the definitions used for clutch, because a team can be down and a player can single handedly go on a 4th quarter rampage and not hit the game winner. So what are the player's stats in the 4th quarter 'overall' since I'm sure its hard to collect games in which they dominated the 4th.

I also think Chuck was clutch as well from what I recall, and so was Ewing, Hakeem, DRob, and a few others. They made plays on both sides of the court that eventually won them the game.

Exactly. Someone with perspective in the thread, great to see.

[gmoney9]

forgot to bump this from the other night, Kobe w/ 28 now

[killuminati187]

i read stats:


Kobe 33 for 58 all time

jordan 27 for 51 all time

[crisoner]

What about Reggie Miller does anyone have his stats?

[Papaya Petee]

I wanna see how many of clutch blocks, steals or defensive plays each one of these players have.

[Seymour Glass]

I think people put too much emphasis on game winners. During the actual play in the heat of the game, the players likely don't feel the pressure of the moment. They don't have time to think "Oh shit what if I miss?" They are too concentrated on beating their man or getting a good shot.

What I am more impressed with is when players hit game winning FT's or hit 2 FT's to go up 1 to measure their ability in clutch situations. At the line they have the time to think those negative thoughts and have to focus on the shot they have too make. It has a more mental side to it than game action.

[Kobe 4 The Win]

Miller and Bird probably has more than those two. I heard that reggie had 14 gamewinners in one year alone.


They said on ESPN last night that Kobe has the most all-time single season game winners (last 10 second standard) with 6 this year.

Kobe got number 6 against the Raptors the other night.

[Jordan-esque]

Anyone have REGGIE and BIRD's gamewinners. thank you
Someone, anyone?