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cavsfanatic
03-26-2010, 12:15 AM
The scoring title will come down between LeBron James, who is at 29.8 points a game and Kevin Durant at 29.7.

Both men have played 70 games and James has just seven more total points, 2,086 to Durant's 2,077.

Durant has already said he thinks James will win. James says he doesn't care and, if he did, he'd win the scoring race every year.

"If it happens, it happens, it is not important to me at all," said James, who won the scoring title in the 2007-08 season and at 27.8 points a game is currently the active leader in career scoring average.

"Our team is trying to clinch (homecourt advantage) for the whole playoffs and is more important. If I really wanted to, I if really wanted to win the scoring title I could win it every single year," James said. "Every single year, I could really do it. But it doesn't matter to me."

Via Plain Dealer

he must have seen joyners dumb post saying he trying to win it yesterday. oh yea if u want a link its on that other site that rhymes wit tealbm...

Lebron23
03-26-2010, 12:16 AM
Lechoke is an arrogant douche bag

-Alpha Wolf

Quizno
03-26-2010, 12:18 AM
that is pretty arrogant

lilbeastnani
03-26-2010, 12:20 AM
"If it happens, it happens, it is not important to me at all," said James, who won the scoring title in the 2007-08 season and at 27.8 points a game is currently the active leader in career scoring average.
Typo or did you make this whole thing up?

beasly15
03-26-2010, 12:21 AM
durant is pretty good. not sure.

Lebron23
03-26-2010, 12:21 AM
LeBron won't lead the league in scoring every year because he's a very unselfish player.

Just what LeBron said winning an NBA title is more important than winning another NBA scoring title.

magnax1
03-26-2010, 12:22 AM
Another reason to dislike Lebron. Will this guy ever stop saying obnoxious stuff?

ihatetimthomas
03-26-2010, 12:23 AM
LeBron won't lead the league in scoring every year because he's a very unselfish player.

Just what LeBron said winning an NBA title is more important than winning another NBA scoring title.

Yea but he had to throw it in there and say he could win it every year. Why cant he just say that it doesn't matter and only winning a title matters?

ZenMaster
03-26-2010, 12:23 AM
LeBron won't lead the league in scoring every year because he's a very unselfish player.

Just what LeBron said winning an NBA title is more important than winning another NBA scoring title.


Then why is he jacking up shots in garbage time?

Lebron23
03-26-2010, 12:23 AM
Typo or did you make this whole thing up?


LeBron is the 3rd best scorer in NBA History. ( Points per Game)

Rank Player PPG

1. Michael Jordan* 30.12
2. Wilt Chamberlain* 30.07
3. LeBron James 27.82
4. Elgin Baylor* 27.36
5. Jerry West* 27.03
6. Allen Iverson 26.66
7. Bob Pettit* 26.36
8. George Gervin* 26.18
9. Oscar Robertson* 25.6
10. Dwyane Wade 25.38

Bold = Active Players

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/pts_per_g_career.html

indiefan24
03-26-2010, 12:24 AM
http://www.mygtv.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/lebron-james.jpg

highwhey
03-26-2010, 12:24 AM
i don't doubt his comment to be honest. he's not trying to lead the league in scoring and yet he is. he could average over 30 a game if he decided to be selfish.

lilbeastnani
03-26-2010, 12:25 AM
Yea but he had to throw it in there and say he could win it every year. Why cant he just say that it doesn't matter and only winning a title matters?
Because he's arrogant. It's kind of counterproductive to what Lebron23 is saying actually. He is a good passer who wants it to be recognized that he passes when he could be shooting more. It's kind of like someone who does charity work and takes pictures and broadcasts it to everyone he can.

lilbeastnani
03-26-2010, 12:26 AM
Oh I didn't see that it said "career." Regardless it's still really early. I'm sure many people were atop this list in their prime.

Diesel J
03-26-2010, 12:29 AM
Lebron could easily score 30 ppg every year but he's too unselfish. I've seen numerous games this season where lebron doesn't even look interested in scoring but instead goes into point guard mode and just racks up the ast. There have been so many games where Lebron has been in the zone and instead of keeping up the attact he stops shooting and goes into passing mode. He's the most unselfish 30 ppg type scorer in the league hands down. Only Wade is similar.

Lebron23
03-26-2010, 12:30 AM
LeBron is the first perimeter player to average 29.8 ppg on 50 FG% since 1991-92 Michael Jordan.

magnax1
03-26-2010, 12:31 AM
Yet hes still not the best scorer in the NBA

lilgodfather1
03-26-2010, 12:32 AM
Thruthfull I liek that. Most NBa players don't have the confidence to say stuff like that because they wouldn't be able to back it up.

BallsOut
03-26-2010, 12:32 AM
http://www.posterized.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/lebroncheckmystats.jpg

Is anyone really surprised?

miller-time
03-26-2010, 12:33 AM
he could. but so could durant or melo or kobe if they averaged 25 or 30 shots a game. lebron and durant are both taking 20 or so pg, kobe is 21 and melo is 22.

lebron isn't any higher in fg% that durant so it would just come down to shot attempts.

stupid comment by lebron.

lilgodfather1
03-26-2010, 12:34 AM
he could. but so could durant or melo or kobe if they averaged 25 or 30 shots a game. lebron and durant are both taking 20 or so pg, kobe is 21 and melo is 22.

lebron isn't any higher in fg% that durant so it would just come down to shot attempts.

stupid comment by lebron.
2% higher?

Lebron23
03-26-2010, 12:36 AM
he could. but so could durant or melo or kobe if they averaged 25 or 30 shots a game. lebron and durant are both taking 20 or so pg, kobe is 21 and melo is 22.

lebron isn't any higher in fg% that durant so it would just come down to shot attempts.

stupid comment by lebron.


LeBron - 50.4 FG%
Durant - 47.7 FG%

bdreason
03-26-2010, 12:37 AM
LeBron could average 35 a game, no doubt.

FlashDwyaneWade3
03-26-2010, 12:38 AM
And some people here said LeBron doesn't care about individual accomplishments, stats and awards. :oldlol:

DuMa
03-26-2010, 12:38 AM
its true if lebron chucked with reckless abandon like he does with his heat checks all game long, he would absolutely be scoring champion every year... but thats not really his game.

Diesel J
03-26-2010, 12:39 AM
he could. but so could durant or melo or kobe if they averaged 25 or 30 shots a game. lebron and durant are both taking 20 or so pg, kobe is 21 and melo is 22.

lebron isn't any higher in fg% that durant so it would just come down to shot attempts.

stupid comment by lebron.


The only players in the league that have shown that they can get about 30 ppg on atleast 48 FG% and only about 20 shots per game is Lebron and Wade before his season. Not even Kobe has done it yet! Of course if you're chucking on low eff it isnt that hard:lol

Lebron23
03-26-2010, 12:43 AM
The only players in the league that have shown that they can get about 30 ppg on atleast 48 FG% and only about 20 shots per game is Lebron and Wade before his season. Not even Kobe has done it yet! Of course if you're chucking on low eff it isnt that hard:lol

:oldlol: :lol :roll:

miller-time
03-26-2010, 12:46 AM
LeBron - 50.4 FG%
Durant - 47.7 FG%

damn, i thought he was about 48. still my point was that if scoring 30+ ppg at the cost of the team was what players wanted to do then any of those guys could do it. it's not in lebron's interest and it's not in anyone elses. so the comment was redundent.

WuTangWizard
03-26-2010, 12:47 AM
Lebron is such a f@g

Doranku
03-26-2010, 12:48 AM
Lebron could easily score 30 ppg every year but he's too unselfish. I've seen numerous games this season where lebron doesn't even look interested in scoring but instead goes into point guard mode and just racks up the ast. There have been so many games where Lebron has been in the zone and instead of keeping up the attact he stops shooting and goes into passing mode. He's the most unselfish 30 ppg type scorer in the league hands down. Only Wade is similar.

:oldlol: @ this guy DESPERATELY talking out of his ass. LeBron is KNOWN for taking ridiculous heat check after heat check when he's 'in the zone', how do you honestly spew this bullshit with a straight face? :roll:

Lebron23
03-26-2010, 12:48 AM
Lebron is such a f@g


I agree. He also beat the Wizards in the playoffs every year.

indiefan24
03-26-2010, 12:49 AM
LeBron is the first perimeter player to average 29.8 ppg on 50 FG% since 1991-92 Michael Jordan.

I hope LeBron pays you for all the promoting you do.

ZenMaster
03-26-2010, 12:57 AM
LeBron - 50.4 FG%
Durant - 47.7 FG%

LeBron - 60.6 TS%

Durant - 60.2 TS%

WuTangWizard
03-26-2010, 01:04 AM
I agree. He also beat the Wizards in the playoffs every year.
Nah, not last year

DuMa
03-26-2010, 01:12 AM
Nah, not last year

he was kind of generous last year. he just let the wizards beat themselves

Diesel J
03-26-2010, 01:16 AM
:oldlol: @ this guy DESPERATELY talking out of his ass. LeBron is KNOWN for taking ridiculous heat check after heat check when he's 'in the zone', how do you honestly spew this bullshit with a straight face? :roll:


a few heat checks isn't the same as chucking for an entire game for many games:roll:

Look @ lebron game log for his typical FG attempts

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=1966

Lebron only stretch this season with a high number of FGA's. 4 game stretch

17-31
13-21
10-21
15-33

and one other 5 game stretch

14-29
8-21
14-24
16-29
9-19
12-26

you want to see true chucking? lets look at you boy Kobe

Kobe

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=110

an 11 game stretch

7-24
15-26
13-28
12-23
11-23
14-26
11-33
16-30
14-26
13-27
13-27

a few games later

9-23
10-30
14-37
4-21

:roll:

BallsOut
03-26-2010, 01:25 AM
Nice, Lebron fans love to celebrate Lebron's statistical achievements. How about this staggering statistic. Kobe has 4 rings. How many does Lebron have again? Oh right, a big fat 0.

So go ahead and celebrate his stats, because that's all you guys will celebrate for many more years to come.

http://www.posterized.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/lebroncheckmystats.jpg

http://ratemyfresh.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/lebron-wearin-mvp-shirt.jpg

http://www.porhomme.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/kobe-bryant-la-lakers-nba-championship-2009-mvp.jpg

Scoring titles? Who celebrates scoring titles? Where they do that at? Kobe celebrates championships. Why you mad though?

Lebron23Cavs
03-26-2010, 01:28 AM
Nice, Lebron fans love to celebrate Lebron's statistical achievements. How about this staggering statistic. Kobe has 4 rings. How many does Lebron have again? Oh right, a big fat 0.

So go ahead and celebrate his stats, because that's all you guys will celebrate for many more years to come.


Who exactly is going to stop Lebron winning titles? health aside there is no reason why Lebron can't win many titles. Starting with this year.

joyner82
03-26-2010, 01:28 AM
LeBron further proving he's an idiot by this statement

Durant-29.7 ppg on 20.2 FGA and 10.0 FTA
LeBron-29.8 ppg on 20.1 FGA and 10.1 FTA


Since mid December

Durant-31.4 on 20.18 FGA
LeBron-30.5 on 20.44 FGA


Durant has matched him the entire year and he's been a more efficient scorer since Mid December up to this point.

Only players in history to score 27+ with a TS% of 60%+ in one of their first 3 years are

Kevin Durant-29.7 ppg 60.2 TS% 21 years old
Kareem Abdul Jabbar-31.4 ppg 60.6 TS% 23 years old
Shaquille O'Neal-29.2 ppg 60.2 TS% 22 years old


At 21 LeBron was averaging 31.4 on 23.1 FGA, 1.36 PPS in comparison with Durant who is at 1.47 PPS. As a matter of fact LeBron's best scoring season years 1-6 can't even approach what Durant is doing this year at 21.

In translation: LeBron is a damn fool who should keep his mouth quiet. You don't see Durant making these outrageous claims and that's why everyone, for the most part, likes him.

Lebron23
03-26-2010, 01:28 AM
Who exactly is going to stop Lebron winning titles? health aside there is no reason why Lebron can't win many titles. Starting with this year.


This

macpierce
03-26-2010, 01:45 AM
the cavaliers have had the best record in the league two straight years in a row, no more excuses. Win or go home....instead of lebron groupies predicting him winning for the next several years, how about him actually winning in reality opposed to fantasy land. Lebron groupies are as bad as kobe groupies

Jacks3
03-26-2010, 01:46 AM
So could Kobe.

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 01:48 AM
Yea but he had to throw it in there and say he could win it every year. Why cant he just say that it doesn't matter and only winning a title matters?


Just letting People Know it doesn't matter to Him but if He wanted to he could. He could average 35 ppg if he WANTED TOO...

macpierce
03-26-2010, 01:50 AM
considering how many freethrows he averages I dont see why.

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 01:51 AM
LeBron further proving he's an idiot by this statement

Durant-29.7 ppg on 20.2 FGA and 10.0 FTA
LeBron-29.8 ppg on 20.1 FGA and 10.1 FTA


Since mid December

Durant-31.4 on 20.18 FGA
LeBron-30.5 on 20.44 FGA


Durant has matched him the entire year and he's been a more efficient scorer since Mid December up to this point.

Only players in history to score 27+ with a TS% of 60%+ in one of their first 3 years are

Kevin Durant-29.7 ppg 60.2 TS% 21 years old
Kareem Abdul Jabbar-31.4 ppg 60.6 TS% 23 years old
Shaquille O'Neal-29.2 ppg 60.2 TS% 22 years old


At 21 LeBron was averaging 31.4 on 23.1 FGA, 1.36 PPS in comparison with Durant who is at 1.47 PPS. As a matter of fact LeBron's best scoring season years 1-6 can't even approach what Durant is doing this year at 21.

In translation: LeBron is a damn fool who should keep his mouth quiet. You don't see Durant making these outrageous claims and that's why everyone, for the most part, likes him.

if Lebron was more selfish and was always in attack mode he could easily average 5 ppg more than anyone else.

joyner82
03-26-2010, 01:52 AM
I wonder what the critical response from these LeBron fans saying there is nothing wrong with this would be if Durant had said this. Considering Durant and LeBron are dead even on scoring while attempting the exact same amount of FG/FT's.

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 01:52 AM
Nice, Lebron fans love to celebrate Lebron's statistical achievements. How about this staggering statistic. Kobe has 4 rings. How many does Lebron have again? Oh right, a big fat 0.

So go ahead and celebrate his stats, because that's all you guys will celebrate for many more years to come.

http://www.posterized.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/lebroncheckmystats.jpg

http://ratemyfresh.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/lebron-wearin-mvp-shirt.jpg

http://www.porhomme.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/kobe-bryant-la-lakers-nba-championship-2009-mvp.jpg

Scoring titles? Who celebrates scoring titles? Where they do that at? Kobe celebrates championships. Why you mad though?


Lebron gets his first this year..

lakerspng
03-26-2010, 01:57 AM
Any of the elite offensive players in the league could lead the league in scoring every year if they really put their mind to it. But to say so, is quite childish.

CeoTypeDoe619
03-26-2010, 02:01 AM
Lmao and the guy with no Jump shot thinks he ccan win scoring titles at will. Lmao Melo, Kobe, Dwade, Durant could win it to if they gunned for it. Lebron just a egotistical baby :hammerhead:

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 02:01 AM
Any of the elite offensive players in the league could lead the league in scoring every year if they really put their mind to it. But to say so, is quite childish.


maybe if they chucked an extra ton of shots thus costing team.. Lebron only one who can constantly get the ball to the rim at will in NBA but he doesnt always since he he takes a beating and more wear and tear on body.

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 02:02 AM
Lmao and the guy with no Jump shot thinks he ccan win scoring titles at will. Lmao Melo, Kobe, Dwade, Durant could win it to if they gunned for it. Lebron just a egotistical baby :hammerhead:


see above post

CeoTypeDoe619
03-26-2010, 02:03 AM
Thruthfull I liek that. Most NBa players don't have the confidence to say stuff like that because they wouldn't be able to back it up.
Get Lebrons nuts out your mouth. Lmao. You like that he's an arrogant prick? I swear you a type of dude who would get on his knees and slurp Lebrons ******* without thinking twice

lakerspng
03-26-2010, 02:06 AM
Kobe
Carmelo
Wade
Lebron
Durant
Dirk

if any of those players entered into the season saying "I want to win the scoring title this year" and went after it, they would.

DuMa
03-26-2010, 02:07 AM
i like it when kobe stans are all mad in this place.

joyner82
03-26-2010, 02:09 AM
maybe if they chucked an extra ton of shots thus costing team.. Lebron only one who can constantly get the ball to the rim at will in NBA but he doesnt always since he he takes a beating and more wear and tear on body.

Durant averages 29.7 on 20.2 FGA and 10.0 FTA
LeBron averages 29.8 on 20.1 FGA and 10.1 FTA

So LeBron could increase his FGA and his efficiency would stay the same, but if Durant did his efficiency would go down. WOW NICE LOGIC, homer. I wonder what will be LeBron's excuse in a few years when Durant averages 35 ppg for a season on 23 FGA @ 50%.

OhNoTimNoSho
03-26-2010, 02:09 AM
Wow people get off his nuts, what he said is true. Its not like hes going around rubbing it in your face, its just his point of view on the truth, and you gotta be a douche to disagree.

BallsOut
03-26-2010, 02:12 AM
Wow people get off his nuts, what he said is true. Its not like hes going around rubbing it in your face, its just his point of view on the truth, and you gotta be a douche to disagree.

If this isn't going around and rubbing it in people's faces than I don't know what is:
http://www.posterized.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/lebroncheckmystats.jpg

http://ratemyfresh.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/lebron-wearin-mvp-shirt.jpg

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 02:16 AM
Durant averages 29.7 on 20.2 FGA and 10.0 FTA
LeBron averages 29.8 on 20.1 FGA and 10.1 FTA

So LeBron could increase his FGA and his efficiency would stay the same, but if Durant did his efficiency would go down. WOW NICE LOGIC, homer. I wonder what will be LeBron's excuse in a few years when Durant averages 35 ppg for a season on 23 FGA @ 50%.


All Lebron had to do to average 35 PPG is get his FT percentage up from 77 to 85 and Instead of Jacking 4 or 5 3's a Gm either Drive to the Hole or Post up more. He wouldn't really have to take any extra Shots. And BTW Lets See Durant average almost 9 assists a gm while averaging 30 points.

CeoTypeDoe619
03-26-2010, 02:18 AM
He says he doesnt care about the scoring title yet he stays in the game in a 4th quarter blow out and jacks up 30 shots. Uhhh Lebron wants it. But saying he can win it every year is a good scapegoat if Durant wins it

thejumpa
03-26-2010, 02:19 AM
Why do any of you care that he wore a "Check My Stats" or MVP shirt? It's a t-shirt.....not a way of life.

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 02:23 AM
He says he doesnt care about the scoring title yet he stays in the game in a 4th quarter blow out and jacks up 30 shots. Uhhh Lebron wants it. But saying he can win it every year is a good scapegoat if Durant wins it


Lebron stayed in gm until there was no chance NO could come back and only took one bad shot the 4th qtr.. How about the gm before when Cavs were up big only had 15 points and sat out 4th which has happened at least 6 times this yr He sat out the 4th qtr...that alone cost Lebron at least another .5 point per game over the season.

joyner82
03-26-2010, 02:24 AM
All Lebron had to do to average 35 PPG is get his FT percentage up from 77 to 85 and Instead of Jacking 4 or 5 3's a Gm either Drive to the Hole or Post up more. He wouldn't really have to take any extra Shots. And BTW Lets See Durant average almost 9 assists a gm while averaging 30 points.

Durant doesn't play point guard or even shooting guard. Why should he average 9 assists again? LeBron is the point guard for Cleveland which is why every other point guard has had garbage assist numbers while playing with him. And ya if Durant's FG% went from 48% to 100% he would be averaging around 52 ppg. He wouldn't need to take anymore shots.

joyner82
03-26-2010, 02:25 AM
Lebron stayed in gm until there was no chance NO could come back and only took one bad shot the 4th qtr.. How about the gm before when Cavs were up big only had 15 points and sat out 4th which has happened at least 6 times this yr He sat out the 4th qtr...that alone cost Lebron at least another .5 point per game over the season.

LeBron played the entire fourth quarter and the lead was greater than 12 the entire time. He scored 13 points and was still jacking up 3's up 15 with 1:30 left. They entered the quarter up 16 and LeBron played all 12 minutes.

Durant entered the 4th the same night with his team up 19. He played 0 minutes in the quarter.

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 02:26 AM
Durant doesn't play point guard or even shooting guard. Why should he average 9 assists again? LeBron is the point guard for Cleveland which is why every other point guard has had garbage assist numbers while playing with him. And ya if Durant's FG% went from 48% to 100% he would be averaging around 52 ppg. He wouldn't need to take anymore shots.


Bottom line don't compare Durant to Lebron..Lebron is in another class right now as an overall player !

fubu05
03-26-2010, 02:27 AM
LOL. Lebron is tooo boss. Personally, the people with the ability to shoot, to drive, and to have that post game have the best chance to win the scoring title. Lebron's post game still isnt as refined as it should be. I think the guy that would win the scoring title 9/10 times if they came into the season saying they are going to do that would have to be Melo. The guy is probably the most polished offensive weapon in the league. He posts you up, he shoots over you, or he drives by you.

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 02:28 AM
LeBron played the entire fourth quarter and the lead was greater than 12 the entire time. He scored 13 points and was still jacking up 3's up 15 with 1:30 left. They entered the quarter up 16 and LeBron played all 12 minutes.

Durant entered the 4th the same night with his team up 19. He played 0 minutes in the quarter.


Once again your Wrong..Lebron Left Gm with around 1:30 left..

ZenMaster
03-26-2010, 02:30 AM
LOL. Lebron is tooo boss. Personally, the people with the ability to shoot, to drive, and to have that post game have the best chance to win the scoring title. Lebron's post game still isnt as refined as it should be. I think the guy that would win the scoring title 9/10 times if they came into the season saying they are going to do that would have to be Melo. The guy is probably the most polished offensive weapon in the league. He posts you up, he shoots over you, or he drives by you.

Could be applied to Kobe as well, he just does it better, but doesn't have the physical advantages Melo has.

joyner82
03-26-2010, 02:30 AM
Bottom line don't compare Durant to Lebron..Lebron is in another class right now as an overall player !


Durant is a better scorer and rebounder
LeBron is a better passer and defender

Lucky for Durant his position does not depend upon passing ability whereas LeBron's, point guard, does.

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 02:32 AM
LOL. Lebron is tooo boss. Personally, the people with the ability to shoot, to drive, and to have that post game have the best chance to win the scoring title. Lebron's post game still isnt as refined as it should be. I think the guy that would win the scoring title 9/10 times if they came into the season saying they are going to do that would have to be Melo. The guy is probably the most polished offensive weapon in the league. He posts you up, he shoots over you, or he drives by you.


So your telling me Lebron Couldn't Win the next 5 Scoring titles if wanted too. Please..Lebron IS THE ULTIMATE WEAPON in the NBA !

joyner82
03-26-2010, 02:32 AM
Once again your Wrong..Lebron Left Gm with around 1:30 left..


Once again I'm wrong? Where the hell else have I been wrong? And is this attempting to make a point? The facts are this, Durant had 25 after 3 quarters on 16 shots.. LeBron had 25 after 3 quarters on 16 shots. One team was up 16 and the other was up 19. One player played ALMOST the entire quarter meanwhile the other player did not step foot on the court.

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 02:35 AM
Durant is a better scorer and rebounder
LeBron is a better passer and defender

Lucky for Durant his position does not depend upon passing ability whereas LeBron's, point guard, does.


Lets See..Lebron 7.2 to Durant 7.4 on Boards and Cavs have much better big men so he doesn't have to board as much but since your being Technical Lebron is the BETTER scorer by .1 !

Durant is the Better Shooter thats it..end of story !

CeoTypeDoe619
03-26-2010, 02:36 AM
So your telling me Lebron Couldn't Win the next 5 Scoring titles if wanted too. Please..Lebron IS THE ULTIMATE WEAPON in the NBA !

(Inaudible) (Gagging) (Slurping) (Laughing)

Get Lebrons d*ck out your mouth. I never heard for a ultimate weaapon who cant even win a finals game forget a ring

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 02:37 AM
Once again I'm wrong? Where the hell else have I been wrong? And is this attempting to make a point? The facts are this, Durant had 25 after 3 quarters on 16 shots.. LeBron had 25 after 3 quarters on 16 shots. One team was up 16 and the other was up 19. One player played ALMOST the entire quarter meanwhile the other player did not step foot on the court.


Your Wrong by trying to Shove Durant down people throats..trying to compare him to Lebron.

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 02:38 AM
(Inaudible) (Gagging) (Slurping) (Laughing)

Get Lebrons d*ck out your mouth. I never heard for a ultimate weaapon who cant even win a finals game forget a ring


Be Patient..check back in June and he will !

joyner82
03-26-2010, 02:39 AM
Your Wrong by trying to Shove Durant down people throats..trying to compare him to Lebron.

29.7 on 20.2 FGA and 10.0 FTA
29.8 on 20.1 FGA and 10.1 FTA


Since mid December

31.4 on 20.18 FGA
30.5 on 20.44 FGA



Yep, no comparison at all. NOT MY LEBRON, DONT COMPARE ANYONE TO MY LEBRON. OH NOES

Lebron23
03-26-2010, 02:39 AM
(Inaudible) (Gagging) (Slurping) (Laughing)

Get Lebrons d*ck out your mouth. I never heard for a ultimate weaapon who cant even win a finals game forget a ring

http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/funny-dog-pictures-why-so-serious.jpg

Dave3
03-26-2010, 02:43 AM
Durant is a better scorer and rebounder
LeBron is a better passer and defender

Lucky for Durant his position does not depend upon passing ability whereas LeBron's, point guard, does.
They're equal scorers and rebounders. A 0.3 rpg difference per game doesn't mean anything. And LeBron has the advantage in the scoring numbers, so I don't know what you're basing that on.

And LeBron doesn't play point guard...he's the small forward, but he's a play making one.

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 02:43 AM
29.7 on 20.2 FGA and 10.0 FTA
29.8 on 20.1 FGA and 10.1 FTA


Since mid December

31.4 on 20.18 FGA
30.5 on 20.44 FGA



Yep, no comparison at all. NOT MY LEBRON, DONT COMPARE ANYONE TO MY LEBRON. OH NOES


And Lebron has been coasting alot lately also..Lets Compare in Playoffs..I think it is safe to say Lebron will step his Gm up even more while Durants Numbers stay the same or go down Slightly.

fubu05
03-26-2010, 02:44 AM
So your telling me Lebron Couldn't Win the next 5 Scoring titles if wanted too. Please..Lebron IS THE ULTIMATE WEAPON in the NBA !

No, I personally think Melo is the most polished offensive game in the league.


Could be applied to Kobe as well, he just does it better, but doesn't have the physical advantages Melo has.

Melo's physcial advantages are what makes him so dangerous though. He's a big body, but he's got a dirty first step and jab step. His speed for his size is impressive, not as impressive as Lebron, but still pretty impressive though. I agree Kobe's jump-shot is better, but you also have to agree though that Melo has the better post-game. That's normal. Melo is a SF, Kobe is a SG. They're both incredible offensive players to me, I just think that Melo is the most dangerous offensive player in the league with his triple threat. Kobe earlier on in his career had the jumpshot, and the explosion, the ability to get to the rack, but not really the post game. Now, Kobe has the shot, and only really started to showcase his postgame to us, but he has lost the explosion he once had. Melo is showing us all three at the same time. I think that is the difference maker for me.

joyner82
03-26-2010, 02:45 AM
And Lebron has been coasting alot lately also..Lets Compare in Playoffs..I think it is safe to say Lebron will step his Gm up even more while Durants Numbers stay the same or go down Slightly.


Coasting, eh? Really? This month

Durant-29.7 ppg on 19.8 FGA
LeBron-28.4 ppg on 19.9 FGA

Hmm coasting yet taking more shots and scoring 1.3 fewer ppg.

And I would hope a 7 year vet who is at his peak would be better than a 21 year old kid making his first playoff appearance. But to make the general assumptions you just did are retarded. If Durant plays Utah or PHX in the first round he's going to average 35+ for the series.

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 02:46 AM
No, I personally think Melo is the most polished offensive game in the league.



Melo's physcial advantages are what makes him so dangerous though. He's a big body, but he's got a dirty first step and jab step. His speed for his size is impressive, not as impressive as Lebron, but still pretty impressive though. I agree Kobe's jump-shot is better, but you also have to agree though that Melo has the better post-game. That's normal. Melo is a SF, Kobe is a SG. They're both incredible offensive players to me, I just think that Melo is the most dangerous offensive player in the league with his triple threat. Kobe earlier on in his league had the jumpshot, and the explosion, the ability to get to the rack, but not really the post game. Now, Kobe has the shot, and only really started to showcase his postgame to us, but he has lost the explosion he once had. Melo is showing us all three at the same time. I think that is the difference maker for me.


Melo is More Polished but Lebron has the Advantage of Getting to Rim almost at Will so it is a push or a slight edge to Lebron.

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 02:50 AM
Coasting, eh? Really? This month

Durant-29.7 ppg on 19.8 FGA
LeBron-28.4 ppg on 19.9 FGA

Hmm coasting yet taking more shots and scoring 1.3 fewer ppg.

And I would hope a 7 year vet who is at his peak would be better than a 21 year old kid making his first playoff appearance. But to make the general assumptions you just did are retarded. If Durant plays Utah or PHX in the first round he's going to average 35+ for the series.


Exactly what I mean by coasting..Not attacking and settling for 3's and also being hampered a Bit by a Sprained ankle. I watch almost Every Cavs game and you can tell he is just trying to get through Regular season without injury and to save some Energy for Playoff push. Especially the past 5 or 6 games when it now looks Clear Cavs have Homecourt Wrapped up.

LAClipsFan33
03-26-2010, 02:50 AM
People say they wanna hear people speak the truth then get mad when they speak it. Lebron was just being real. What he said was true.

CeoTypeDoe619
03-26-2010, 02:52 AM
Come on yall one phone call to David Stern and couple mean mugs at the ref and the man can EASILY average 35ppg. He just telling it how it is

ZenMaster
03-26-2010, 02:53 AM
No, I personally think Melo is the most polished offensive game in the league.



Melo's physcial advantages are what makes him so dangerous though. He's a big body, but he's got a dirty first step and jab step. His speed for his size is impressive, not as impressive as Lebron, but still pretty impressive though. I agree Kobe's jump-shot is better, but you also have to agree though that Melo has the better post-game. That's normal. Melo is a SF, Kobe is a SG. They're both incredible offensive players to me, I just think that Melo is the most dangerous offensive player in the league with his triple threat. Kobe earlier on in his career had the jumpshot, and the explosion, the ability to get to the rack, but not really the post game. Now, Kobe has the shot, and only really started to showcase his postgame to us, but he has lost the explosion he once had. Melo is showing us all three at the same time. I think that is the difference maker for me.

Agree they're both great! And Melo's physical advantage combined with his skill is what makes him so dangerous and one of the very best.
It was just that you used the word polished in your earlier post, and i definitely think Kobe has the most polished offensive game in the NBA bar none. Which is why he's still in the conversation even though the number of games he's played.

ZenMaster
03-26-2010, 02:56 AM
People say they wanna hear people speak the truth then get mad when they speak it. Lebron was just being real. What he said was true.

But your'e missing the point..

Lebron23
03-26-2010, 02:56 AM
Come on yall one phone call to David Stern and couple mean mugs at the ref and the man can EASILY average 35ppg. He just telling it how it is


http://sdhintz.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/shut_up.jpg

joyner82
03-26-2010, 02:58 AM
People say they wanna hear people speak the truth then get mad when they speak it. Lebron was just being real. What he said was true.

LOL. So if someone randomly came up to you on the streets and started saying they were better than you at something you wouldn't care? You wouldn't find that obnoxious or douchebaggerish?

joyner82
03-26-2010, 02:59 AM
Exactly what I mean by coasting..Not attacking and settling for 3's and also being hampered a Bit by a Sprained ankle. I watch almost Every Cavs game and you can tell he is just trying to get through Regular season without injury and to save some Energy for Playoff push. Especially the past 5 or 6 games when it now looks Clear Cavs have Homecourt Wrapped up.

So Durant is trying to score yet he sat out the entire 4th quarter with a 19 point lead.

But LeBron is coasting because he scored 13 in the 4th with his team up 16 going in.


Interesting logic.

LAClipsFan33
03-26-2010, 03:02 AM
But your'e missing the point..

No I'm not. The point is that he's saying if he was a selfish player he could win it every year...which is true. But he's about winning games and moving towards the ultimate goal of winning the 'ship

Dave3
03-26-2010, 03:03 AM
LOL. So if someone randomly came up to you on the streets and started saying they were better than you at something you wouldn't care? You wouldn't find that obnoxious or douchebaggerish?
If he had proof by leading the league in scoring at the highest efficiency of anyone in the top 5 lol...Disanalogy buddt.

LAClipsFan33
03-26-2010, 03:04 AM
LOL. So if someone randomly came up to you on the streets and started saying they were better than you at something you wouldn't care? You wouldn't find that obnoxious or douchebaggerish?

How is this relevant ? Who do you think Lebron is talking to ? He's making a general statement (which is true) to emphasize how he's going in the total opposite direction.

fubu05
03-26-2010, 03:04 AM
Agree they're both great! And Melo's physical advantage combined with his skill is what makes him so dangerous and one of the very best.
It was just that you used the word polished in your earlier post, and i definitely think Kobe has the most polished offensive game in the NBA bar none. Which is why he's still in the conversation even though the number of games he's played.

He doesn't though. When Kobe was young and explosive, if he couldn't drive in on his defender, he would simply dribble around and take a shot over him. Melo has a post game in his prime, along with a jump-shot, along with the ability to get to the rack. Kobe mainly utilized 2 in his prime. Ergo, Melo could hurt you in more ways, he has more weapons, he is the better and more polished scorer. Maybe not offensive game as passing is part of the offensive game and Kobe is better than Melo in that department. But for sure, Melo is the better scorer.

ZenMaster
03-26-2010, 03:05 AM
No I'm not. The point is that he's saying if he was a selfish player he could win it every year...which is true. But he's about winning games and moving towards the ultimate goal of winning the 'ship

Yes you are, check out post #20

LAClipsFan33
03-26-2010, 03:11 AM
Yes you are, check out post #20

Lebron is a pretty passive scorer even though he puts up a lot of points. If he went all out. focus just on scoring I don't think anyone would beat him. Of course if it became this type of competition he would have to shoot more

If all of them take 30 shots per game I'm still taking Lebron

plowking
03-26-2010, 03:13 AM
LeBron won't lead the league in scoring every year because he's a very unselfish player.

Just what LeBron said winning an NBA title is more important than winning another NBA scoring title.

Do you have a v@gina? Because this is the only way I could understand someone loving a man this much.

ZenMaster
03-26-2010, 03:15 AM
He doesn't though. When Kobe was young and explosive, if he couldn't drive in on his defender, he would simply dribble around and take a shot over him. Melo has a post game in his prime, along with a jump-shot, along with the ability to get to the rack. Kobe mainly utilized 2 in his prime. Ergo, Melo could hurt you in more ways, he has more weapons, he is the better and more polished scorer. Maybe not offensive game as passing is part of the offensive game and Kobe is better than Melo in that department. But for sure, Melo is the better scorer.

Well Kobe's game is the polished in the NBA today. What Melo will look like when he's played the number of games that Bryant has we don't know. Kobe's skill set is what set him apart these days. I like Melo's game, but i have a hard time seeing getting the same footwork as Kobe has, what ya think?

joyner82
03-26-2010, 03:16 AM
How is this relevant ? Who do you think Lebron is talking to ? He's making a general statement (which is true) to emphasize how he's going in the total opposite direction.

He has absolute no truth. He and Durant are separated by 7 points and adjusted for 3P FG here is the total shot attempts

LeBron-2292 and has scored 2086 points
Durant-2257.5 and has scored 2077 points

Since mid December

Durant 31.4 ppg 20.18 FGA
LeBron 30.5 ppg 20.44 FGA

This month
Durant 29.7 ppg 19.8 FGA
LeBron 28.4 ppg 19.9 FGA

This is the bare equivalent of someone claiming they're sick before playing in a pickup game. If they lose, they have an excuse. Yet the numbers tell an entirely different story.

ZenMaster
03-26-2010, 03:18 AM
Lebron is a pretty passive scorer even though he puts up a lot of points. If he went all out. focus just on scoring I don't think anyone would beat him. Of course if it became this type of competition he would have to shoot more

If all of them take 30 shots per game I'm still taking Lebron


You're still missing the point. They could all lead the league in scoring if they really put their mind to it and choose to take more shots. But no one goes out and say it because it's pointless, except LeBreazy.

LAClipsFan33
03-26-2010, 03:20 AM
He has absolute no truth. He and Durant are separated by 7 points and adjusted for 3P FG here is the total shot attempts

LeBron-2292 and has scored 2086 points
Durant-2257.5 and has scored 2077 points

Since mid December

Durant 31.4 ppg 20.18 FGA
LeBron 30.5 ppg 20.44 FGA

This month
Durant 29.7 ppg 19.8 FGA
LeBron 28.4 ppg 19.9 FGA

This is the bare equivalent of someone claiming they're sick before playing in a pickup game. If they lose, they have an excuse. Yet the numbers tell an entirely different story.

My point is that Durant is already an aggressive scorer. We haven't seen Lebron's full scoring potential. I think its higher than Durants. That's what I'm saying.

LAClipsFan33
03-26-2010, 03:21 AM
You're still missing the point. They could all lead the league in scoring if they really put their mind to it and choose to take more shots. But no one goes out and say it because it's pointless, except LeBreazy.

So what about when Kobe said it ?

He talked about this his 35ppg year

This isn't new. Wilt and Jordan have also hinted at it.

joyner82
03-26-2010, 03:23 AM
My point is that Durant is already an aggressive scorer. We haven't seen Lebron's full scoring potential. I think its higher than Durants. That's what I'm saying.

YOU CANT BE SERIOUS

LeBron is in his 7th year in the league and at his peak.

Durant is a 21 year old kid

They're averaging the exact same amount of shots.

Yet apparently Durant has peaked but LeBron has not. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

LAClipsFan33
03-26-2010, 03:25 AM
YOU CANT BE SERIOUS

LeBron is in his 7th year in the league and at his peak.

Durant is a 21 year old kid

They're averaging the exact same amount of shots.

Yet apparently Durant has peaked but LeBron has not. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I didn't say anything about peak. I said they are different types of players. Durant is more aggressive. Lebron has never showed an aggressive scoring style.

plowking
03-26-2010, 03:26 AM
I didn't say anything about peak. I said they are different types of players. Durant is more aggressive. Lebron has never showed an aggressive scoring style.

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I won't bother...

OhNoTimNoSho
03-26-2010, 03:28 AM
If this isn't going around and rubbing it in people's faces than I don't know what is:
http://www.posterized.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/lebroncheckmystats.jpg

http://ratemyfresh.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/lebron-wearin-mvp-shirt.jpg
I didn't realize Lebron came into your house and said,
"Hey Man check my shirt out, Can you read this? Read it biatch. Yeah now say it, say your my *****. Ok Peace."

ZenMaster
03-26-2010, 03:29 AM
So what about when Kobe said it ?

He talked about this his 35ppg year

This isn't new. Wilt and Jordan have also hinted at it.

What did Kobe say? Could you find a quote where he says it's all about winning for him, but he still has to mention he could win the scoring title every year if he wanted to?

ZenMaster
03-26-2010, 03:32 AM
I didn't say anything about peak. I said they are different types of players. Durant is more aggressive. Lebron has never showed an aggressive scoring style.

Do you really watch NBA basketball?

joyner82
03-26-2010, 03:32 AM
I didn't say anything about peak. I said they are different types of players. Durant is more aggressive. Lebron has never showed an aggressive scoring style.

So despite the fact over the last 3 1/2 months LeBron is averaging more FGA, Durant is the more aggressive scorer. Please tell me how you define aggressive scorer, I'm curious. Also I guess LeBron staying in the game to statpad last night while Durant sat the entire 4th makes Durant more aggressive as well.

AND LEBRON ATTACKS THE BASKET ALMOST EVERY POSSESSION. THATS NOT AGGRESSIVE OBV

LAClipsFan33
03-26-2010, 03:33 AM
What did Kobe say? Could you find a quote where he says it's all about winning for him, but he still has to mention he could win the scoring title every year if he wanted to?

He said something along the lines of he could outscore everybody, but he would never win doing that and that's not what he wants to do. He want to get back to winning championships. It was on local radio. I didn't happen to be recording it and saving it on my hard drive for this occasion.

LAClipsFan33
03-26-2010, 03:36 AM
So despite the fact over the last 3 1/2 months LeBron is averaging more FGA, Durant is the more aggressive scorer. Please tell me how you define aggressive scorer, I'm curious. Also I guess LeBron staying in the game to statpad last night while Durant sat the entire 4th makes Durant more aggressive as well.

AND LEBRON ATTACKS THE BASKET ALMOST EVERY POSSESSION. THATS NOT AGGRESSIVE OBV

I watch Lebron a lot. There are tons of games where he could score 50, but he ends up with 31 points and 9 assists. A lot of times he'll drive hard and he could get all the way to the basket, but he kicks it out to get his teammates involved. Imagine if he had the Danny Granger mentality instead. Imagine how many points he would average.

He's had very few games where he was a chucker.

joyner82
03-26-2010, 03:48 AM
I watch Lebron a lot. There are tons of games where he could score 50, but he ends up with 31 points and 9 assists. A lot of times he'll drive hard and he could get all the way to the basket, but he kicks it out to get his teammates involved. Imagine if he had the Danny Granger mentality instead. Imagine how many points he would average.

He's had very few games where he was a chucker.

Durant has more games of 30+ points on fewer than 20 FGA than Kobe, LeBron, Wade, and Melo combined this season.

oh the horror
03-26-2010, 03:58 AM
If Lebron James wanted, Lebron James could win the scoring title every year.


Also, If Lebron James wanted, Lebron James could win the DPOY award every year, and also If Lebron James wanted to, he could win the Most Improved Player, the MVP, the 6th Man of the Year, and the FINALS MVP, AND championship every year.


Lebron James could retire right now, and Lebron James could enter the Hall of Fame.


Lebron James could be the president of the united states if he ran, every year.


Lebron James could Lebron James, and Lebron James, Lebron James! Lebron James? Lebroooooooon James.


http://magazine.continental.com/archive/images/2007_jan/idea-makers/lebron-james.jpg


PS - Lebron James catches bullets with his teeth.

LAClipsFan33
03-26-2010, 04:00 AM
Durant has more games of 30+ points on fewer than 20 FGA than Kobe, LeBron, Wade, and Melo combined this season.

OK. I'm still taking Lebron shot for shot shooting as many times as need be to beat Durant.

TryToBeUnbias
03-26-2010, 04:38 AM
If Lebron James wanted, Lebron James could win the scoring title every year.


Also, If Lebron James wanted, Lebron James could win the DPOY award every year, and also If Lebron James wanted to, he could win the Most Improved Player, the MVP, the 6th Man of the Year, and the FINALS MVP, AND championship every year.


Lebron James could retire right now, and Lebron James could enter the Hall of Fame.


Lebron James could be the president of the united states if he ran, every year.


Lebron James could Lebron James, and Lebron James, Lebron James! Lebron James? Lebroooooooon James.


http://magazine.continental.com/archive/images/2007_jan/idea-makers/lebron-james.jpg



PS - Lebron James catches bullets with his teeth.
lol.

LeChuckNorris.

HeyMarkus
03-26-2010, 08:42 AM
2 questions.

Are people really THAT mad he said this?


Are people really trying to argue its not true?

Lebron could literally dribble to the hoop and drop the ball in AND get fouled almost at will. On almost every single possession.


So you guys are trying to say if everyone went out in the beginning of the season and said we're all trying to win the scoring title.. That LeBron wouldnt take it?


SMH .. watch the god damned game :hammerhead:

HeyMarkus
03-26-2010, 08:42 AM
and WTF is with people saying lebron is a PG? Are you ****ing serious? :roll:

joyner82
03-26-2010, 08:49 AM
2 questions.

Are people really THAT mad he said this?


Are people really trying to argue its not true?

Lebron could literally dribble to the hoop and drop the ball in AND get fouled almost at will. On almost every single possession.


So you guys are trying to say if everyone went out in the beginning of the season and said we're all trying to win the scoring title.. That LeBron wouldnt take it?


SMH .. watch the god damned game :hammerhead:

If this is true then why doesn't he? That would be the most efficient way to score and it would be most beneficial to his team. So, why doesn't he?

HeyMarkus
03-26-2010, 08:51 AM
If this is true then why doesn't he? That would be the most efficient way to score and it would be most beneficial to his team. So, why doesn't he?


How in the world would that be most beneficial for his team?!!? :roll:


Infact, the exact reason he stated that he doesnt win it every year is because its not whats most beneficial for his team.

madmax
03-26-2010, 08:51 AM
2 questions.

Are people really THAT mad he said this?


Are people really trying to argue its not true?

Lebron could literally dribble to the hoop and drop the ball in AND get fouled almost at will. On almost every single possession.


So you guys are trying to say if everyone went out in the beginning of the season and said we're all trying to win the scoring title.. That LeBron wouldnt take it?

SMH .. watch the god damned game :hammerhead:

:cheers: :roll: It's like people are not watching the game anymore, but just spewing the same crap they hear on message boards - Lebron hasn't got a jumpshot, he can only bully people to the rack and so on and etc bla bla bla...DDD Lebron is by FAR the best scorer in the game today - anyone who argues that is biased hater or deluded ******ger

HeyMarkus
03-26-2010, 08:54 AM
:roll:


Do people really still say lebron has no jumper??:confusedshrug: what are they watching?

cavsfanatic
03-26-2010, 08:57 AM
Why do any of you care that he wore a "Check My Stats" or MVP shirt? It's a t-shirt.....not a way of life.
because they're idiots. the shirt means money not his nba stats lmao.

joyner82
03-26-2010, 08:57 AM
How in the world would that be most beneficial for his team?!!? :roll:


Infact, the exact reason he stated that he doesnt win it every year is because its not whats most beneficial for his team.

Lebron could literally dribble to the hoop and drop the ball in AND get fouled almost at will. On almost every single possession.


LeBron is the best player in the NBA. But he is becoming the most overrated player in the NBA at the same time. If he could do what is bolded above then he would do it every single possession because that would be the most efficient way to score for his team instead of relying upon them when they shoot 45% from the field.

This is approaching Jordan levels of overratedness. Jordan very well might be the GOAT, but he is without a doubt the most overrated player in NBA history.

joyner82
03-26-2010, 08:59 AM
because they're idiots. the shirt means money not his nba stats lmao.


God you're dumb. Words can't express the level of stupidity you just displayed. You have reached the pinnacle of idiocy. Send my condolences to your parents.

Doranku
03-26-2010, 09:01 AM
2 questions.

Are people really THAT mad he said this?


Are people really trying to argue its not true?

Lebron could literally dribble to the hoop and drop the ball in AND get fouled almost at will. On almost every single possession.


So you guys are trying to say if everyone went out in the beginning of the season and said we're all trying to win the scoring title.. That LeBron wouldnt take it?


SMH .. watch the god damned game :hammerhead:

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:roll:

cavsfanatic
03-26-2010, 09:08 AM
God you're dumb. Words can't express the level of stupidity you just displayed. You have reached the pinnacle of idiocy. Send my condolences to your parents.
uh no obviously you are dumber than i thought. you know the $ in the word stats? lmao @ u really believing it means his nba stats. i could buy that shirt today. so you think he had somebody make that shirt? lmfaoooo

Story Up
03-26-2010, 10:44 AM
No he won't, he's such a douche bag. I seen teams completely surround him when his teammates weren't producing; he choked many times. Him being an unselfish scorer is exactly why he is so successful at scoring.

If he starts hogging the ball, he does not have the versatility to score 35 PPG when teams constantly put pressure on him from the perimeter.

Look at every perimeter shot he takes, he's hardly ever contested mostly because teams fear his passing ability and his penetration. If he was to limit his passing game and sole concentrate on scoring, he'd have a hard time.

I've seen teams like Boston expose him in the past. He's a much better player when he does not play selfish basketball, including scoring.

HeyMarkus
03-26-2010, 10:59 AM
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:roll:

So youre telling me LeBron cant barrel towards the hoop from any direction and explode with atleast a foul with like ..75% success rate?

Doranku
03-26-2010, 11:16 AM
So youre telling me LeBron cant barrel towards the hoop from any direction and explode with atleast a foul with like ..75% success rate?

I guess LeBron is just SO good that he transcends feelings of fatigue. :roll:

HeyMarkus
03-26-2010, 11:19 AM
I guess LeBron is just SO good that he transcends feelings of fatigue. :roll:

I mean.. is that your only argument??

Sure.. he can get tired. He can get hurt. But you never really see that show on LeBron. Ever really, it never shows. He can and has played 48 no problem.

Doranku
03-26-2010, 11:26 AM
I mean.. is that your only argument??

Sure.. he can get tired. He can get hurt. But you never really see that show on LeBron. Ever really, it never shows. He can and has played 48 no problem.

If you HONESTLY think that ANYONE has the stamina to barrel down the lane EVERY possession for AND run up and down the court on possession changes AND play some sort of defense for 82 games a year + Playoffs, you're a ****ing idiot who's never played the sport of basketball in his life. Plain and simple.

HeyMarkus
03-26-2010, 11:34 AM
If you HONESTLY think that ANYONE has the stamina to barrel down the lane EVERY possession for AND run up and down the court on possession changes AND play some sort of defense for 82 games a year + Playoffs, you're a ****ing idiot who's never played the sport of basketball in his life. Plain and simple.

:roll:


settle down, first of all. second, i said almost a few times in my post AND even said 75%. Listen.. his ability to drive at will and his jumpshot sets him apart. Period. Its funny you know what he said is the truth so you wanna pick a sentence to criticize.

ILLsmak
03-26-2010, 11:53 AM
I just read this on ESPN and I knew people here would be crying about it!

So I had to come and say, "It's true."

People are exaggerating a bit, but the truth is that LeBron could score plenty. Don't you guys realize he is saying if he wanted to score and not win? I wonder how many points he could put up if he didn't want to win and was on a garbage team. Enough to win it every year, for sure...

That's the thing... it's not that Kobe and Durant or whoever else are not as great of scorers (Although IMO LeBron scores better than anyone because nobody can stop him from getting to the rim), but they have other responsibilities. So does LeBron. It's kind of bogus to say what he said, and he probably just said it to get in people's heads... but if you put Bron on a really bad team he'd probably be producing more meaningless stats than anyone.

-Smak

HeyMarkus
03-26-2010, 12:02 PM
(Although IMO LeBron scores better than anyone because nobody can stop him from getting to the rim)

this is what im saying.

LA_Showtime
03-26-2010, 12:07 PM
I don't know about that. If LeBron James was put on a shity team I don't think he'd be able to average 35 per game. The last guy who did it, Kobe Bryant, was consistently swarmed by teams and part of the reason his season is thought of so highly (at least from Laker fans :oldlol:) is because he was taking ridiculously low percentage shots.

PistonsFan#21
03-26-2010, 12:09 PM
Lol why are people so mad about Lebron making that claim?? Its not like he went out there and said it openly. He got asked about the scoring title and answered truthfully.

Lebron is scoring at a higher rate than Durant while also having to concentrate on defense and playmaking. Durant keeps all his energy for offense so its easier for him. Put Lebron in Durant's position and tell him not to worry about playmaking and only scoring and he would drop 35-37ppg during his prime

ZenMaster
03-26-2010, 12:11 PM
Lebron is scoring at a higher rate than Durant

This

BallsOut
03-26-2010, 12:12 PM
lol @ people thinking Lebron would lead the league in scoring if he tried. Last time I checked, Lebron's career high was 56pts. Theres this #24 guy, I think he dropped 62pts in 3quarters and 81pts in 4. Even if Lebron tried, he would never score 81 in a game ever. No way in hell anyone gets away with saying Lebron is a better scorer than Kobe.

PistonsFan#21
03-26-2010, 12:12 PM
I don't know about that. If LeBron James was put on a shity team I don't think he'd be able to average 35 per game. The last guy who did it, Kobe Bryant, was consistently swarmed by teams and part of the reason his season is thought of so highly (at least from Laker fans :oldlol:) is because he was taking ridiculously low percentage shots.

Kobe was never as athletic as Lebron and he shot a mediocre FG% his whole career (even when he had a stacked team with Shaq). Lebron was on mediocre teams most of his career but he still managed to score 31.4ppg in his 3rd year on about 48% FG. Now that he has an improved jumpshot i dont think scoring 35ppg would be too hard

PistonsFan#21
03-26-2010, 12:14 PM
Wrong

hmm

TS% Lebron 60.6%
TS% Durant 60.2%

Its ok though just edit your post or delete it completely so you wont look like a fool.

ZenMaster
03-26-2010, 12:31 PM
hmm

TS% Lebron 60.6%
TS% Durant 60.2%

Its ok though just edit your post or delete it completely so you wont look like a fool.

Crap i messed up the numbers..

LebronairJAMES
03-26-2010, 12:31 PM
God you're dumb. Words can't express the level of stupidity you just displayed. You have reached the pinnacle of idiocy. Send my condolences to your parents.
:rolleyes: COMING FROM YOU :violin:

CeoTypeDoe619
03-26-2010, 12:37 PM
Pretty cocky for the guy who is in his 7th year in the league with only 1 Scoring Title.:confusedshrug:

LA_Showtime
03-26-2010, 12:40 PM
Kobe was never as athletic as Lebron and he shot a mediocre FG% his whole career (even when he had a stacked team with Shaq). Lebron was on mediocre teams most of his career but he still managed to score 31.4ppg in his 3rd year on about 48% FG. Now that he has an improved jumpshot i dont think scoring 35ppg would be too hard

I still don't think his offensive game his versatile enough. LeBron is obviously the superior athlete, but if team's throw 2 or 3 guys at him with no regard for the other players then he has to go to plan B or C. What exactly would he do?

BTW, this is if LeBron James played on a shity team. He'd easily average 35 per game on the current Cavaliers team if he wanted to.

Doranku
03-26-2010, 12:46 PM
:roll:


settle down, first of all. second, i said almost a few times in my post AND even said 75%. Listen.. his ability to drive at will and his jumpshot sets him apart. Period. Its funny you know what he said is the truth so you wanna pick a sentence to criticize.

There's a difference between actually doing it 75% of the time and CONVERTING 75% of the time (which is what you said). Regardless, I do think he could lead the league in scoring if that was his #1 priority. But then, the same can be said for guys like Wade, Bryant, Melo, and Durant.

DukeDelonte13
03-26-2010, 12:50 PM
lol @ people thinking Lebron would lead the league in scoring if he tried. Last time I checked, Lebron's career high was 56pts. Theres this #24 guy, I think he dropped 62pts in 3quarters and 81pts in 4. Even if Lebron tried, he would never score 81 in a game ever. No way in hell anyone gets away with saying Lebron is a better scorer than Kobe.
:oldlol: I think he is talking about a full season, not one game, you dip.

Just cause someone has a great scoring game doesn't mean they are gonna lead the season. Jennings had a 55 pt game, why isn't he scoring 28 pts a game this season? :oldlol: Some of the posters on this board :lol :roll: :oldlol: :oldlol:

wally_world
03-26-2010, 12:51 PM
Durant could win every year if he wanted to as well, but he doesnt jack up 50 shots a game. What's his point?

hoopslife
03-26-2010, 12:52 PM
That's a pretty stupid comment from Lebron. Kobe, Durant and Melo all could lead the league in scoring every year if they tried as well. The question is who would lead the league in scoring if Kobe, Carmelo, Durant and Lebron could care less about wins and they all tried to lead the league in scoring...

HeyMarkus
03-26-2010, 12:56 PM
I still don't think his offensive game his versatile enough. LeBron is obviously the superior athlete, but if team's throw 2 or 3 guys at him with no regard for the other players then he has to go to plan B or C. What exactly would he do?

BTW, this is if LeBron James played on a shity team. He'd easily average 35 per game on the current Cavaliers team if he wanted to.

Same thing he'd do now. Drive. Knock down the occasional shot, miss a few.. hit most, drive. Kick it out if need be but take the shot and look for contact.


There's a difference between actually doing it 75% of the time and CONVERTING 75% of the time (which is what you said). Regardless, I do think he could lead the league in scoring if that was his #1 priority. But then, the same can be said for guys like Wade, Bryant, Melo, and Durant.

Actually I said drive and score OR be fouled 75% of the time. The other 25% being turnovers, pass (potential assist) and miss.

And I dont get that. The same could be said for him and him and him? What LeBron said was he could win the scoring title every year. Thats every year, no matter what. If that was the most important goal he could get it, it just isnt the focus. That whats hes saying. And I agree.

O.J A 6'4Mamba
03-26-2010, 01:06 PM
LOL. Lebron is tooo boss. Personally, the people with the ability to shoot, to drive, and to have that post game have the best chance to win the scoring title. Lebron's post game still isnt as refined as it should be. I think the guy that would win the scoring title 9/10 times if they came into the season saying they are going to do that would have to be Melo. The guy is probably the most polished offensive weapon in the league. He posts you up, he shoots over you, or he drives by you.

I think Melo proved earlier this year when everybody is healthy he is the most talented offensive player right now in the game and can average the most points. The thing with melo is he bangs around so much with big men he always gets injured which always lowers his stats especially his PPG

crisoner
03-26-2010, 01:34 PM
The guy has Chosen 1 tatted on his back what do you expect?

fubu05
03-26-2010, 01:37 PM
I think Melo proved earlier this year when everybody is healthy he is the most talented offensive player right now in the game and can average the most points. The thing with melo is he bangs around so much with big men he always gets injured which always lowers his stats especially his PPG

Yeah, his ball IQ isn't too high sometimes :confusedshrug: If Melo can become a smarter player, he would probably be unstoppable, but because he lacks the ball IQ he ends up doing some really stupid stuff a lot.

zizozain
03-26-2010, 01:37 PM
The guy has Chosen 1 tatted on his back what do you expect?
lol this
pure attention w-hore

Disaprine
03-26-2010, 01:41 PM
I don't believe you lebron, but these guys probably do

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3032/espnlol.jpg

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 01:42 PM
lol @ people thinking Lebron would lead the league in scoring if he tried. Last time I checked, Lebron's career high was 56pts. Theres this #24 guy, I think he dropped 62pts in 3quarters and 81pts in 4. Even if Lebron tried, he would never score 81 in a game ever. No way in hell anyone gets away with saying Lebron is a better scorer than Kobe.


Right Now, He is ! Kobe relys on Jumpshots if it is not falling he is Limited. lebron can get to rim and score so even if his shot is off he still can put up 30. Kobe was a better scorer a Few years ago. And Btw- there was 3 Times at least this yr Lebron could have put up 60. Remember that 35 point 1st half against Knicks for one. Easily would have scored 65 or 70 points if he wanted to.

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 01:44 PM
Pretty cocky for the guy who is in his 7th year in the league with only 1 Scoring Title.:confusedshrug:


But has been in top 5 last 5 seasons..His point is that if played like a Ballhog and failed to get others involved he could..and everyone should believe him !

catch24
03-26-2010, 01:49 PM
It's plausible, but wouldn't happen given he's always gonna put the TEAM first.

artest 93
03-26-2010, 01:54 PM
Pretty cocky thing to say. Although it's true, he probably should have kept it to himself.

But I think if he were to go on such a mission, he would not only lead the league in scoring, but also in efficiency (at least for perimeter players). Probably 50% FG. His "OK" FT shooting would also be balanced by his ability to get to the free throw line, increasing his point(s) per FGA.

NBASTATMAN
03-26-2010, 02:12 PM
The scoring title will come down between LeBron James, who is at 29.8 points a game and Kevin Durant at 29.7.

Both men have played 70 games and James has just seven more total points, 2,086 to Durant's 2,077.

Durant has already said he thinks James will win. James says he doesn't care and, if he did, he'd win the scoring race every year.

"If it happens, it happens, it is not important to me at all," said James, who won the scoring title in the 2007-08 season and at 27.8 points a game is currently the active leader in career scoring average.

"Our team is trying to clinch (homecourt advantage) for the whole playoffs and is more important. If I really wanted to, I if really wanted to win the scoring title I could win it every single year," James said. "Every single year, I could really do it. But it doesn't matter to me."

Via Plain Dealer

he must have seen joyners dumb post saying he trying to win it yesterday. oh yea if u want a link its on that other site that rhymes wit tealbm...



Lebron needs to be more political when answering questions.. Truth is he could lead the league in scoring if he wanted to.. But it won't matter if the rings don't come with that...

BallsOut
03-26-2010, 02:24 PM
:oldlol: I think he is talking about a full season, not one game, you dip.

Just cause someone has a great scoring game doesn't mean they are gonna lead the season. Jennings had a 55 pt game, why isn't he scoring 28 pts a game this season? :oldlol: Some of the posters on this board :lol :roll: :oldlol: :oldlol:

I was responding to one of your Lebron homers saying Lebron is the best scorer in the game today.


Right Now, He is ! Kobe relys on Jumpshots if it is not falling he is Limited. lebron can get to rim and score so even if his shot is off he still can put up 30. Kobe was a better scorer a Few years ago. And Btw- there was 3 Times at least this yr Lebron could have put up 60. Remember that 35 point 1st half against Knicks for one. Easily would have scored 65 or 70 points if he wanted to.

None of this "if he wanted to he would" crap. He can't, and that's why his career high is only 56pts.

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 02:29 PM
I was responding to one of your Lebron homers saying Lebron is the best scorer in the game today.



None of this "if he wanted to he would" crap. He can't, and that's why his career high is only 56pts.


Obviously U are an Idiot ! Sorry cant do much for U.

BallsOut
03-26-2010, 02:30 PM
Obviously U are an Idiot ! Sorry cant do much for U.

And sorry Lebron never scored 81, yet alone 62 in 3 quarters or average 35.4pts a game or won 4 rings or any ring for that matter. Why you mad though?

Kingwillball
03-26-2010, 02:34 PM
And sorry Lebron never scored 81, yet alone 62 in 3 quarters or average 35.4pts a game or won 4 rings or any ring for that matter. Why you mad though?

Why am I mad..Lebron is better than Kobe ever was so take your homer stats a deposit them where sun don't shine.. U mad now?

BallsOut
03-26-2010, 02:37 PM
Why am I mad..Lebron is better than Kobe ever was so take your homer stats a deposit them where sun don't shine.. U mad now?

Kobe has 4 rings. How many rings does Lebron have again? Oh I know, a big fat 0. Why you mad though?

EllisGW
03-26-2010, 04:55 PM
Kobe has 4 rings. How many rings does Lebron have again? Oh I know, a big fat 0. Why you mad though?
Kobe May end up having the better career but you can't compare a 13 year career to 7 year career becuase the person has plenty More chances to win and have bigger numbers. Kobe never scored multiple 60 points in the first 7 years of his career.

ShaqAttack3234
03-26-2010, 05:26 PM
In Lebron's defense, he did score 15 points on just 9 shots two games ago when he didn't need to score more. I don't think he cares that much about the scoring title. But, it's not like he's clearly a better scorer than Durant. they're comparable. They're averaging basically the same amount of points on virtually the same numbers of shots. Lebron is stronger, more athletic and a better finisher while Durant is smoother, mroe fundamentally sound and a better shooter. Both end up scoring about the same, and having similar season highs, too.

GOBB
03-26-2010, 05:31 PM
Does he have the ability to lead the league in scoring each season? Yes. Could he actually do it? No, just on the basis this league has some other scorers just as good. The competition alone would deny him winning the scoring title each year.

Amil23
03-26-2010, 06:01 PM
Kobe fans flocked to this thread like flies flock to sh!t:lol :oldlol: :roll:

MK2V1GP
03-26-2010, 06:12 PM
Question:

IF LeBron doesn't care, then why does he have to go off like this? Why must he even say it? If he TRULY doesn't care who wins the scoring title, why even bother wasting his breathe on this self-praising remark?

Of course he cares about it. Could he average 35 ppg? Yeah, if he took the ball to the hoop more consistently. If he was on a bad team, then yeah. But he's not. IF he could, then he would.

And IF he didn't really care, then he wouldnt have responded like that or said that.

Hey LeBron, go have a tall nice glass of humility. It'll do you good.

NBASTATMAN
03-26-2010, 06:14 PM
Kobe May end up having the better career but you can't compare a 13 year career to 7 year career becuase the person has plenty More chances to win and have bigger numbers. Kobe never scored multiple 60 points in the first 7 years of his career.


Truth is Kobe never scored 60 until the new rules started... Only tmac hit the 60 pt mark... Lebron could score 60 and maybe even low 70's but I doubt he will ever keep shooting to get those points.. Matter of fact Lebron scored 56 in his second year.. He could easily go for more than that but he usually starts passing.. I don't think he could get 80 though.. He doesn't shoot free throws for a high percentage... And he would have to do that to get that high..

Amil23
03-26-2010, 06:15 PM
Question:

IF LeBron doesn't care, then why does he have to go off like this? Why must he even say it? If he TRULY doesn't care who wins the scoring title, why even bother wasting his breathe on this self-praising remark?

Of course he cares about it. Could he average 35 ppg? Yeah, if he took the ball to the hoop more consistently. If he was on a bad team, then yeah. But he's not. IF he could, then he would.

And IF he didn't really care, then he wouldnt have responded like that or said that.

Hey LeBron, go have a tall nice glass of humility. It'll do you good.
I get what you are saying but even if he would have came with an answer like "Im not worried about that"The Kobe and Durant fans will just come and say hes lying blah,blah,blah.The sad thing is if he scores 40 tonight in a close game,they will come and have something negative to say about it.:confusedshrug:

YAWN
03-26-2010, 06:36 PM
so could durant, kobe, melo, wade.. :lol

what a dumb statement that people are reading into too much.

YAWN
03-26-2010, 06:38 PM
I get what you are saying but even if he would have came with an answer like "Im not worried about that"The Kobe and Durant fans will just come and say hes lying blah,blah,blah.The sad thing is if he scores 40 tonight in a close game,they will come and have something negative to say about it.:confusedshrug:

nah i think the only reason there was a slight glimmer of criticism from anyone was he stat padded for an entire quarter in the last game. In a blowout, most superstars would sit out the 4th.

Living Being
03-26-2010, 06:40 PM
Question:

IF LeBron doesn't care, then why does he have to go off like this? Why must he even say it? If he TRULY doesn't care who wins the scoring title, why even bother wasting his breathe on this self-praising remark?

Of course he cares about it. Could he average 35 ppg? Yeah, if he took the ball to the hoop more consistently. If he was on a bad team, then yeah. But he's not. IF he could, then he would.

And IF he didn't really care, then he wouldnt have responded like that or said that.

Hey LeBron, go have a tall nice glass of humility. It'll do you good.
Exactly what I was thinking. He obviously cares if he makes a statement saying he COULD do it EVERY year.
This is also a way for him to "save face" when and if he get's beaten by Durant. He'll say, "I wasn't worried about it, scoring titles are no big deal, I can get them whenever I want."
Sounds like a BIG FAT BABY to me.

cotdt
03-26-2010, 07:18 PM
Lebron could average 50 PPG, but it will be at the expense of winning.

crisoner
03-26-2010, 07:21 PM
I don't believe you lebron, but these guys probably do

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3032/espnlol.jpg

LOL

HeyMarkus
03-27-2010, 01:29 AM
Question:

IF LeBron doesn't care, then why does he have to go off like this? Why must he even say it? If he TRULY doesn't care who wins the scoring title, why even bother wasting his breathe on this self-praising remark?

Of course he cares about it. Could he average 35 ppg? Yeah, if he took the ball to the hoop more consistently. If he was on a bad team, then yeah. But he's not. IF he could, then he would.

And IF he didn't really care, then he wouldnt have responded like that or said that.

Hey LeBron, go have a tall nice glass of humility. It'll do you good.

omg youre an idiot.

Lebron23
03-27-2010, 01:32 AM
NBA Scoring Race

As of March 27, 2010

LeBron - 29.8 ppg
Durant - 29.6 ppg

gts
03-27-2010, 01:41 AM
it is a silly statement only in that he's not the only player this could apply to.. any of the top players that have the ball in their hands 30% or more of the time could be racking up more points per game if they chose to...

Usage Pct

1. Dwyane Wade-MIA 35.0
2. Carmelo Anthony-DEN 33.7
3. LeBron James-CLE 33.5
4. Kobe Bryant-LAL 32.3
5. Kevin Durant-OKC 32.0

each and everyone of these guys can put up big points almost at will..

LilEddyCurry
03-27-2010, 03:58 AM
Durant is a better scorer and rebounder
LeBron is a better passer and defender

Lucky for Durant his position does not depend upon passing ability whereas LeBron's, point guard, does.
:oldlol: :roll:

burnsy87
03-27-2010, 04:06 AM
The scoring title will come down between LeBron James, who is at 29.8 points a game and Kevin Durant at 29.7.

Both men have played 70 games and James has just seven more total points, 2,086 to Durant's 2,077.

Durant has already said he thinks James will win. James says he doesn't care and, if he did, he'd win the scoring race every year.

"If it happens, it happens, it is not important to me at all," said James, who won the scoring title in the 2007-08 season and at 27.8 points a game is currently the active leader in career scoring average.

"Our team is trying to clinch (homecourt advantage) for the whole playoffs and is more important. If I really wanted to, I if really wanted to win the scoring title I could win it every single year," James said. "Every single year, I could really do it. But it doesn't matter to me."

Via Plain Dealer

he must have seen joyners dumb post saying he trying to win it yesterday. oh yea if u want a link its on that other site that rhymes wit tealbm...



Am I the only one who noticed this terrible math?

Anyways, I think its completely true. If he didn't go into "Ima get a triple double" mode every time he has a big first half, he could easily win the scoring title every single year.

burnsy87
03-27-2010, 04:07 AM
it is a silly statement only in that he's not the only player this could apply to.. any of the top players that have the ball in their hands 30% or more of the time could be racking up more points per game if they chose to...

Usage Pct

1. Dwyane Wade-MIA 35.0
2. Carmelo Anthony-DEN 33.7
3. LeBron James-CLE 33.5
4. Kobe Bryant-LAL 32.3
5. Kevin Durant-OKC 32.0

each and everyone of these guys can put up big points almost at will..


Where did you get these numbers? I'd like to see what Rose's is.