Rudy Gay is just now as "good/talented" as Kevin Durant

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

http://www.nba.com/media/grizzlies/gay-73054132-300.jpg

I have watch both players now let me preach.

Rudy Gay has taken his game to a new level. It is amazing how good someone with crazy potential can get, when they decide to work hard and put their head on the right way when they want to get paid on a contract year.

He jumper is just as automatic as Durant's, and he now has 24 ft 3 point range. He needs to work on fts. He is way more athletic than Durant, and they are similar in height durant a tad bit taller. Way stronger added 15 lbs of muscle this off season. He is now just as efficient from the FG at 47%.

He just plays for Grizzlies where everybodys stats are lowered since their starting 5 is easily top 3 in the league. He has to play along another 20 point scorer in Z-bo and an 18 pt scorer in OJ and another 14 point scorer in Gasol. Durant highest ppg teammate is Westbrook with 16 ppg. His rebounding is lowered because he plays with 2 guys that average 11 and 9 reounds a game.

If this guy does leave Memphis, and goes to any team where he can get the main option and all the offense is run through him, he will be putting identical and numbers that rival Durant's, I am not talking about teams like GSW/NY/PHX where if your talented you will put up crazy stats I am talking about legit teams like Twolves or something. .

Now we can only hope OJ Mayo takes his game to the next level this off season.

[The Ownage]

OK my response was a bit silly at first, but I think that Rudy Gay only has the potential to become a second option player. He's very talented, but it's just something about him that doesn't let me believe that he could be a first option. He has been playing less selfishly this season, which I thought was a big drawback to his game, but I don't know about him being as goon as Kevin Durant. Just something in his game that is lacking. :confusedshrug:

[DeAndre Gordon]

I agree Gay has become a very impressive player this year, no question about it.

But there are a lot of questions about how much he cares about WINNING.

Personally I'd be afraid to pay this guy too much. IMO skill can get you into the playoffs, but attitude gets you through them. Gay doesn't show enough heart to get big time dolla dolla beelz.

[dirkdiggler41]

If he was as talented as Durant, his FG% would be much higher. Durant is already scoring 10more points on Rudy with a better %.

[OhNoTimNoSho]

A bold statement, but I have to disagree. Rudy Gay may be more athletic but durants length and height allows him to score in a wider array of situations. You admit his jumpers is not as good, but you are not aware how important that is. Combine better jumper plus length just puts Durant 2-3 notches higher than rudy gay. I did not take D into consideration.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

If he was as talented as Durant, his FG% would be much higher. Durant is already scoring 10more points on Rudy with a better %.

People talk about Durants efficency because of mainly his FT%. He leaves no points on the table. Only a few stars have ever done that in Nba history for as much as he goes to the line. His FG% for as much as everybody talks about how efficient he is, is only 47.7% FG, where Gay's is 47.0% FG.

You put Durant on the Grizzlies he isn't averaging 29.6 ppg don't kid yourself. Durant would only be averaging a max of 23 ppg.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

A bold statement, but I have to disagree. Rudy Gay may be more athletic but durants length and height allows him to score in a wider array of situations. You admit his jumpers is not as good, but you are not aware how important that is. Combine better jumper plus length just puts Durant 2-3 notches higher than rudy gay. I did not take D into consideration.

There D is about the same. Kevin Durant jumper is better but not by much, and he is way better shooter. However Rudy has a better post play.I remember team usa camp, the director said Rudy Gay, not Derrick Rose, OJ Mayo, Russell Westbrook, and Kevin Durant were the two that seperated themselves from the pack a camp.

I am starting to see it now. Skill wise he really is right next to Durant, I am not fabricating or trying to troll. Watch the next Thunder game, and the next Grizzlie game. The only thing that scares me about Gay like most is, is he going to play like this once he is going paid? Does he really care about winning?

[brandonislegend]

Rudy Gay killed Durant and was the most impressive player in the USA camp last summer...

he went 12-14 from the field in the scrimmage game

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

I still never get why people look so much into stats, then actually watching players and comparing that way. i mean anybody can tell you how much Gay has improved in every way of the game you can think of this compared to last season.

Yet his career highs in points, rebs, assists came in his 2nd season. Before OJ Mayo, Marc Gasol, and Zach Randolph all came in and said hi.

That makes me more convinced that if Rudy would have gotten less talented layers to play along side of him, he would be averaging 26-29 points right now, while having the worst record in the league.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

Rudy Gay killed Durant and was the most impressive player in the USA camp last summer...

he went 12-14 from the field in the scrimmage game

brandonislegend i know your a fan of both players, what do you think about my assessment. is Gay just as good as Durant,

[Nets fan 93]

He would wreck on the Nets. I still really want him.

[bdreason]

Memphis would trade their entire backcourt (Mayo, Gay, and Conley) for Durant.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

He would wreck on the Nets. I still really want him.

The chances you guys get John Wall is only 25% not really high. Still that would be nice Wall-Gay-Lopez then you just need a defensive stopper and 3 point shooter and your own your way.

[Dasher]

He would wreck on the Nets. I still really want him.I can see, and I hope the see The Nets get him. I would also like to see them bundle some of their excess mixed bag swing players for some front court depth. The Josh Boone era has to end.

[Rekindled]

rudy gay isnt even better than westbrook.

[brandonislegend]

brandonislegend i know your a fan of both players, what do you think about my assessment. is Gay just as good as Durant,

Nah simply because durant gets to the free throw line, Gay doesn't have the mentality yet, its coming hes gotten better at it this year. I think being on the Grizzlies is tough for him and for mayo as well, there starting 5 are all solid and all needs shots. Rudy Gay has sick potential depending on where he ends up next year everyone will see.

[brandonislegend]

if Durant was on the Grizzlies he would avg about 23-24 points THIS YEAR. If Gay was on the thunder he would avg 24-26 points THIS YEAR.

[RoseCity07]

Kevin Durant is way way better than Rudy Gay. If you have to say Rudy Gay is as good as someone else, it shows lack of confidence.

Kevin Durant's first step will leave you glued to the floor.

[lilgodfather1]

Maybe they are equally talented, but talent means jack shit when it comes to producing on the court. KD is playing at a level that few have ever played at and he is actually being able to keep up with LeBron in terms of scoring which is incredibly impressive. If they switched teams neither team would be as good, but Gay would improve his numbers a bit because Memphis has a ton of firepower in the starting line up.

[ZenMaster]

Durant:

eFG%: 51.2

TS%: 60.2

Gay:

eFG%: 49.5

TS%: 53.8

I know it's easy just to say "he needs to work on FTs" and then just let it be that. But ability to get to the line and make your shots there is huge, there's a reason it's one of the 4 factors of basketball. It's also one of the reasons why Durant is one of the 2 best scorers in basketball. Durant gets there 10 times a game compared to Gay's 5 times a game. Big difference since Gay still scores 2/3 of Durant number of points in per game.

So no Rudy Gay is not as good a scorer as Durant and he's got a long way to go.

But he is a good player though, no doubt about it. Durant is just better, while still being 2 years younger.

[kells333]

rudy gay isnt even better than westbrook.


this

[liquidrage]

Rudy Gay is easily as good as Durant. And with Gasol and Mayo it's a great future.

The reason the Thunder are a good ways better then Memphis is because Westbrook is >>> Mayo.

I can't wait to see you fluffing Jeff Green now you ass clown.

[bl2k8]

I agree, and lol@ not being better than westbrook

[RoTM]

So Gay will suddenly show his potential to be the number 2 SF behind Lebron if he goes to a worse team. Nice reasoning there genius. Maybe he can lead this mystery team to more lottery balls then the Grizzlies since his awesome teammates are bringing him down.

[RoTM]

Well then can you explain why they almost traded him for Monta Ellis?

Because they are cheap, want to ditch Thabeets worthless contract, and think Conley is a bench player. They can ditch Mayo and get a real hybrid scoring guard who can run the point for 20-30 minutes a game.

[joyner82]

Rudy Gay is to Kevin Durant as Monta Ellis is to Dwayne Wade

[jaydacris]

does rudy gay have attitude/ego problems?

[brandonislegend]

does rudy gay have attitude/ego problems?

No, just doing have the killer mentality yet, even though this year he's starting to understand.

[Nets fan 93]

The chances you guys get John Wall is only 25% not really high. Still that would be nice Wall-Gay-Lopez then you just need a defensive stopper and 3 point shooter and your own your way.
Even without Wall... A Harris-Gay-Lopez would be nice... Lee has been nice defensively... The Nets need a low post defensive presence... A pf not afraid to to the dirty work.

[Myth]

He just plays for Grizzlies where everybodys stats are lowered since their starting 5 is easily top 3 in the league. He has to play along another 20 point scorer in Z-bo and an 18 pt scorer in OJ and another 14 point scorer in Gasol. Durant highest ppg teammate is Westbrook with 16 ppg. His rebounding is lowered because he plays with 2 guys that average 11 and 9 reounds a game.

If Rudy plays with so much better talent (which reduces his stats), then why does Durant's team have a better record? :confusedshrug:

[brandonislegend]

If Rudy plays with so much better talent (which reduces his stats), then why does Durant's team have a better record? :confusedshrug:

Because everyone on the grizzlies is a black hole? and the Thunder play team ball?

do you think before you speak? look at their rosters and try to figure it out...or watch some acutal games?

[ZenMaster]

Because everyone on the grizzlies is a black hole? and the Thunder play team ball?

do you think before you speak? look at their rosters and try to figure it out...or watch some acutal games?

What you see is deceptive.

OKC: 19.8 ast prg

Memphis: 19.2 ast pr game

Not much difference there.

[AAckley1]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there is simply no evidence to support this.

While Rudy is more athletic than Durant, he rarely uses that athleticism to his advantage in any situation besides dunking.

Durant is used by his team about 10% more, yet goes to the line 200% the rate Rudy Gay does. When he gets to the line, he makes 14% more of his free throws. Durant LEADS THE LEAGUE in free throws made. That right there makes up your 10 point difference in scoring. Drop Durant's usage to 5% more than Rudy Gay, place him on the Grizz and he's still putting up 27+ because he's simply much better at pump-faking the first defender and driving the lane to receive fouls.

[ILLsmak]

People talk about Durants efficency because of mainly his FT%. He leaves no points on the table. Only a few stars have ever done that in Nba history for as much as he goes to the line. His FG% for as much as everybody talks about how efficient he is, is only 47.7% FG, where Gay's is 47.0% FG.

You put Durant on the Grizzlies he isn't averaging 29.6 ppg don't kid yourself. Durant would only be averaging a max of 23 ppg.

I love how people make statements like these. It's probably true he wouldn't be averaging 30 points on the Grizz, but to pull a number like 23 out of your ass doesn't make it more believable. Why 23? How would things shake out in your mind? I got a feeling you didn't really bust out your calculator or do any in depth research, you just threw that number out there. WELL, I'm gonna say KD would get 25+.


My ass beats your ass.

-Smak

[G.O.A.T]

Please report this and all of his post you find this absurd. They'll either ban people like him or ban us all.

[AAckley1]

I love how people make statements like these. It's probably true he wouldn't be averaging 30 points on the Grizz, but to pull a number like 23 out of your ass doesn't make it more believable. Why 23? How would things shake out in your mind? I got a feeling you didn't really bust out your calculator or do any in depth research, you just threw that number out there.

Thank you! Gay and Durant shoot around the same percentage from the field. Durant shoots more, gets to the line an ASS TON more, and shoots a better percentage once he gets there, and this clown says he would only get 3 more points a game than Rudy Gay in the EXACT same system?

Pass the dutchie to the left hand side because I want some of what he's smokin

[lilgodfather1]

Thank you! Gay and Durant shoot around the same percentage from the field. Durant shoots more, gets to the line an ASS TON more, and shoots a better percentage once he gets there, and this clown says he would only get 3 more points a game than Rudy Gay in the EXACT same system?

Pass the dutchie to the left hand side because I want some of what he's smokin
His thought process is that Durant wouldn't get to shoot the same amount of shots on Memphis as he does on OKC. Therefore he would get to the line less and take less shots. I'm not going to bust out my calculator either, or even look up the stats because I really don't care very much, but it does make sense that KD wouldn't score as much on Memphis.

[JerzeyBlaze]

Rudy Gay is the truth, but Rudy Gay is not in the same breath as lebron james, kobe bryant...yet. Kevin Durant is. Rudy Gay still hasn't reached his potential but will. He's like Carmelo Anthony in a way. Once he tweeks some things he will be elite status.

If the Nets make a push for Gay we will be a dangerous team. I dont thing Gay and Mayo and co exist.

[Bandito]

The Grizzlies are the New Knicks (The Starbury Knicks btw). Lot of chuckers and not enough D. I think what the Grizzlies need is to dump Mayo or Gay and stay with everyone else.

[aparis1]

The Grizzlies are the New Knicks (The Starbury Knicks btw). Lot of chuckers and not enough D. I think what the Grizzlies need is to dump Mayo or Gay and stay with everyone else.



I agree, gay and mayo do too many of the same things that they often take away from each others strengths.

also this thread is ridiculous. ive seen 70+ grizzlies games this year and hate durant with a passion and I still laugh at the thought gay is even close to durant.

[Kobe8]

hell no

[ZeN]

hell no

Understatement. :oldlol: