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GOBB
05-02-2010, 04:01 PM
can someone find the thread saying this was gonna be one of Floyd's toughest fights ever. Some said it might be tough as a Manny Pac fight, it funny how opinions change.

Being a tough fight and being an elite boxer are two different things. Its funny how Shane is elite when dude is around the corner from calling it a career. Its funny how Shane is elite when dude out his mouth (and not only watching the fight) was gassed after 4 rounds. Its funny how the last 4 fights he lost 2. Who has he beaten? What has he done to make you say he was an elite boxer? If you gotta google it then you might want to just say "Ok he wasnt elite but was a tough opponent for Floyd.".

Calling Shane elite is like calling Juan Marquez elite. There is tough competition and there are elite fighters. Pacman is an elite opponent. Shane is not. By saying Shane isnt elite doesnt mean nor imply it was another chump win Floyd added to his record. It was a very good win vs a tough opponent. Thats what people wanted and got. Claiming this fight could be tougher than the Pacman matchup has more to do with the styles than anything else.


Why not, cause he lost to the Floyd?

No because someone made a false claim. Just correcting them is all.


He's definitely considered an elite WW. He's just below Floyd and Pac. He destroyed Margarito who nobody stopped before, lost a very close fight to Cotto (who many thought he beat). I think he would've beat Berto if they fought. Even before yesterday's fight, ESPN had Mosley ranked as the top WW.

He destroyed a cheater who got exposed. Who knows how long that dude was cheating. Glad he got caught and Shane tore him a new asshole. Doesnt make Shane elite.

Younggrease
05-02-2010, 04:06 PM
Being a tough fight and being an elite boxer are two different things. Its funny how Shane is elite when dude is around the corner from calling it a career. Its funny how Shane is elite when dude out his mouth (and not only watching the fight) was gassed after 4 rounds. Its funny how the last 4 fights he lost 2. Who has he beaten? What has he done to make you say he was an elite boxer? If you gotta google it then you might want to just say "Ok he wasnt elite but was a tough opponent for Floyd.".

Calling Shane elite is like calling Juan Marquez elite. There is tough competition and there are elite fighters. Pacman is an elite opponent. Shane is not. By saying Shane isnt elite doesnt mean nor imply it was another chump win Floyd added to his record. It was a very good win vs a tough opponent. Thats what people wanted and got. Claiming this fight could be tougher than the Pacman matchup has more to do with the styles than anything else.



No because someone made a false claim. Just correcting them is all.



He destroyed a cheater who got exposed. Who knows how long that dude was cheating. Glad he got caught and Shane tore him a new asshole. Doesnt make Shane elite.

find when I said he was elite...I just it was susposed to be a tough fight. People had Shane beating Berto and some predicted his style would give Money some problems. Now that its older people are acting like he is in a wheelchair. If he is in a wheelchair then why did some analysts have him beating Berto? He is a really good fighter that Floyd made look like an amatuer, he looked confused and scared in there.

GOBB
05-02-2010, 04:12 PM
i appreciate his speed, i don't appreciate his lack of power behind any of his punches. This is why boxing is slowly dying in the public/media eye not just mine. only pacman, floyd and a handful literally of boxers can even draw ratings. We, as the casual fan, want to see power, blood, excitement, knockouts for us to be interested. Something that happened during the 60's with heavyweights like George Foreman. then in the 80's and early 90's with Prime Mike Tyson that took boxing in the public's eye to a whole different level. Until another fighter comes around like that boxing will slowly keep dying, and MMA/UFC will keep rising like it has been and the overall ratings/numbers prove that.


what would you rate that fight on a scale of 1-10 with 5 being average.

You want to see a slugfest. Either watch Butterbean fights or shove 1 drunk person into another and get the boxing match that would entertain you. Floyd Mayweather Jr is an artist. He actually boxes. He has power but how much power do you want him to have where you applaud it? Who knows. He simply doesnt do Arturo Gatti style fights. He doesnt stand toe to toe and throw power blows going back and forth until someone falls down. Get up and repeat and hopefully someone knows him down so he can get up. Rinse and repeat, do it for 3 fights and we call it a great triology. Floyd boxes your head off and displays superior defense.

I think the casual fans or careless ones want to see the barbaric matches. And if not its not a good fight. I think if people can appreciate the sport they'd understand guys who can flat out box. There is an art to boxing and that isnt throwing big punches and seeing who is the first to fall and not get up.

Reef
05-02-2010, 04:17 PM
Being a tough fight and being an elite boxer are two different things. Its funny how Shane is elite when dude is around the corner from calling it a career. Its funny how Shane is elite when dude out his mouth (and not only watching the fight) was gassed after 4 rounds. Its funny how the last 4 fights he lost 2. Who has he beaten? What has he done to make you say he was an elite boxer? If you gotta google it then you might want to just say "Ok he wasnt elite but was a tough opponent for Floyd.".

Calling Shane elite is like calling Juan Marquez elite. There is tough competition and there are elite fighters. Pacman is an elite opponent. Shane is not. By saying Shane isnt elite doesnt mean nor imply it was another chump win Floyd added to his record. It was a very good win vs a tough opponent. Thats what people wanted and got. Claiming this fight could be tougher than the Pacman matchup has more to do with the styles than anything else.




No because someone made a false claim. Just correcting them is all.



He destroyed a cheater who got exposed. Who knows how long that dude was cheating. Glad he got caught and Shane tore him a new asshole. Doesnt make Shane elite.

I really don't think he was gassed. He just couldn't figure out Mayweather. Every time he threw something, he got countered. He was scared of being hit every time he let his hands go. Floyd frustrated him.

Shane's been on P4P lists for a lot of his career. He's only lost to 3 guys before yesterday (1 he arguably beat). Shane's beat Mayorga, Collazo, Estrada, Vargas, DLH. He's one of the most ducked fighters in all of boxing.

Sure Margarito cheated but you can't deny that Margarito was one of the biggest, toughest WW's with one of the top chins in boxing. Cotto was throwing everything at him and he walked right through it. Only Shane was able to KO him.

Marquez was definitely elite at Featherweight.

GOBB
05-02-2010, 04:18 PM
find when I said he was elite...I just it was susposed to be a tough fight. People had Shane beating Berto and some predicted his style would give Money some problems. Now that its older people are acting like he is in a wheelchair. If he is in a wheelchair then why did some analysts have him beating Berto? He is a really good fighter that Floyd made look like an amatuer, he looked confused and scared in there.

You didnt say he was elite. But you felt some kind of way with me saying he wasnt elite. So I explained you can be a tough fight/opponent and not be an elite boxer. Its not a diss, discredit, takes away from Floyd winning last night. Yet somehow you walked away feeling that way.

I think you're just being too extreme when your replies. Like this latest one. If you are replying in general to other posters thats one thing. But you quoted me and are going off on a rant. That to me suggests the comments are directed towards me. Therefore I never once downgraded what Shane was. Before this fight was even a thought, when it was signed, leading up to the ring and after the fight. How I viewed the matchup and Shane as a boxer? Remained constant.

All I said was Shane is not an elite boxer when someone said "floyd beat an elite fighter". Thats just not true. He beat a tough and good boxer. He did exactly what people wanted which was take a risk on a tough matchup. He did and won. :confusedshrug:



I really don't think he was gassed. He just couldn't figure out Mayweather. Every time he threw something, he got countered. He was scared of being hit every time he let his hands go. Floyd frustrated him.

Shane's been on P4P lists for a lot of his career. He's only lost to 3 guys before yesterday (1 he arguably beat). Shane's beat Mayorga, Collazo, Estrada, Vargas, DLH. He's one of the most ducked fighters in all of boxing.

Sure Margarito cheated but you can't deny that Margarito was one of the biggest, toughest WW's with one of the top chins in boxing. Cotto was throwing everything at him and he walked right through it. Only Shane was able to KO him.

Marquez was definitely elite at Featherweight.

I dont know, Shane looked gas to me. It was like he was thinkin of what he wanted to do but when it came time for his body to execute? It just didnt happen. Ended up clutching. Doing that annoying pitter patter of the feet like some kickass punch combo was near.

Margarito is a tough ass fighter. I acknowledge that and give props to Shane for dismantling him. Definately was entertaining for me to see.

I just dont consider Shane elite. Didnt really want to get in a big back & forth argument over it. I'm a Floyd fan and defender.

~primetime~
05-02-2010, 05:07 PM
i appreciate his speed, i don't appreciate his lack of power behind any of his punches. This is why boxing is slowly dying in the public/media eye not just mine. only pacman, floyd and a handful literally of boxers can even draw ratings. We, as the casual fan, want to see power, blood, excitement, knockouts for us to be interested. Something that happened during the 60's with heavyweights like George Foreman. then in the 80's and early 90's with Prime Mike Tyson that took boxing in the public's eye to a whole different level. Until another fighter comes around like that boxing will slowly keep dying, and MMA/UFC will keep rising like it has been and the overall ratings/numbers prove that.


what would you rate that fight on a scale of 1-10 with 5 being average.
but boxing is growing right now because of those 2 fighters...

you mention MMA ratings going up, but Mayweather/Mosely might have been top 10 ever in pay-per-view sales (I have no idea, just a guess)

It is safe to say that the pay-per-vie numbers will have completely crushed anything MMA has ever put out...

I agree we need some heavyweights though...and not just one heavyweight...we need like 3 or 4 good ones...

L.Kizzle
05-02-2010, 05:17 PM
but boxing is growing right now because of those 2 fighters...

you mention MMA ratings going up, but Mayweather/Mosely might have been top 10 ever in pay-per-view sales (I have no idea, just a guess)

It is safe to say that the pay-per-vie numbers will have completely crushed anything MMA has ever put out...

I agree we need some heavyweights though...and not just one heavyweight...we need like 3 or 4 good ones...
Have the numbers come in yet?

Dasher
05-02-2010, 05:18 PM
Deontay Wilder is a raw heavyweight, but he has the physical tools to take the division by storm. He is a giant with incredible power. Wilder is about a year away from getting the Cristobal Arreola/Miguel Cotto treatment from HBO, and about two years away from being ready for world class fighters.

Tito Beasley
05-02-2010, 05:19 PM
I really don't think he was gassed. He just couldn't figure out Mayweather.

Completely disagree. You could see it on his face. In fact I even said it when I saw it, and it was before the fight became lopsided. Mosley was gassed in the 4th round. Dude flat out just ran out of steam and you could see it in his movements and in his expression.

beasly15
05-02-2010, 05:39 PM
kizzle, clear your messages.

~primetime~
05-02-2010, 05:54 PM
Have the numbers come in yet?
no I read it will take a couple days...

I am still sure they blew away anything MMA has put out...

wouldn't shock me if that fight was top 5 all time...

~primetime~
05-02-2010, 05:59 PM
here is this:

Mayweather-Mosley fight could set pay-per-view mark


Oscar De La Hoya might be the king of boxing pay-per-view, but Floyd Mayweather lives up to his nickname, "Money," by virtue of being the sport's all-time leader in average revenue generated per PPV fight.
In six PPV fights, Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) has generated 5.5 million buys and $292 million in revenue, which averages out to about $48.6 million a fight, nearly $12 million more a fight than De La Hoya averaged in 19 PPV fights.

"It feels good to be the pay-per-view king as I have always believed in myself, and obviously a lot of other people do, too," Mayweather said Monday. "They keep coming back for more, and I am glad to give them what they want. I always try to entertain the fans, whether it's in the ring or with the things I say and do."

Mayweather's welterweight mega-fight Saturday against "Sugar" Shane Mosley (46-5-0, 39 KOs) at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas (HBO PPV, 9 p.m. ET) is expected to threaten the pay-per-view record of 2.4 million buys set in Mayweather's fight with De La Hoya in December 2007.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2010-04-26-mayweather-mosley-ppv_N.htm

L.Kizzle
05-02-2010, 06:06 PM
here is this:

Mayweather-Mosley fight could set pay-per-view mark



http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2010-04-26-mayweather-mosley-ppv_N.htm
Awesome.

lefthook00
05-02-2010, 06:40 PM
If any of you guys have watched Mosley's previous losses, he gets confused and doesn't know what to do just like he did against Floyd. Nothing new.

Floyd's "lack" of punching power at welter is a combination of bigger opponents with great chins, and Floyd not committing fully to his punches. If you watched Floyd prior to his stint at welter, you would know that he has sufficient power.

Gundress
05-02-2010, 07:06 PM
I am surprised to see that many posters on here order PPV instead watching illegal stream online.

Post for you guys.

I can't wait for Pacman ( The Good Guy) vs Money Mayweather (The Bad Guy) fight.

Pacman...man up and take a drugs test.

L.Kizzle
05-02-2010, 07:09 PM
I am surprised to see that many posters on here order PPV instead watching illegal stream online.

Post for you guys.

I can't wait for Pacman ( The Good Guy) vs Money Mayweather (The Bad Guy) fight.

Pacman...man up and take a drugs test.
This is a match you had too watch n the comforts of your living room on the big screen, not on a computer screen where the streams keep giving out.

And LOL, I think every opponent that faces Mayweather will be the good guy, did you hear any Mayweather chants, all MOSLEY!!

Gundress
05-02-2010, 07:57 PM
This is a match you had too watch n the comforts of your living room on the big screen, not on a computer screen where the streams keep giving out.

And LOL, I think every opponent that faces Mayweather will be the good guy, did you hear any Mayweather chants, all MOSLEY!!


That's true but it more like you have to order PPV if Mayweather fights anybody.

:lol of course, Mayweather just wants to be "everybody you love to hate" which I respect him because at least he has his back up plan.

L.Kizzle
05-02-2010, 07:59 PM
That's true but it more like you have to order PPV if Mayweather fights anybody.

:lol of course, Mayweather just wants to be "everybody you love to hate" which I respect him because at least he has his back up plan.
I didn't order his comback match last year when Mosley jupmed in the ring.

Gundress
05-02-2010, 08:03 PM
I didn't order his comback match last year when Mosley jupmed in the ring.


Pacman or Mayweather? Your opinon?


Marquez got robbed when he fought Pacman but Pacman getting better and better.

L.Kizzle
05-02-2010, 08:06 PM
Pacman or Mayweather? Your opinon?


Marquez got robbed when he fought Pacman but Pacman getting better and better.
LOL Floyd easily.

Gundress
05-02-2010, 08:07 PM
LOL Floyd easily.


You sure?

This is going be an interesting fight for real.

I honestly Mayweather gonna be his first lost by Pacman.

I would put my money on Pacman.

Tito Beasley
05-02-2010, 08:11 PM
LOL Floyd easily.


:rolleyes:

L.Kizzle
05-02-2010, 08:11 PM
:rolleyes:
I put LOL there for a reason.

Gundress
05-02-2010, 08:15 PM
I put LOL there for a reason.


Oh okay but it sounds like LOL as in "Of course :lol "

Dasher
05-02-2010, 08:17 PM
There is only a 3 round window to beat Floyd. If Manny can not knock him out within 3 rounds, Floyd will break him down and embarrass him. Which will lead to more anti-Floyd excuse making from his detractors.

Tito Beasley
05-02-2010, 08:39 PM
There is only a 3 round window to beat Floyd. If Manny can not knock him out within 3 rounds, Floyd will break him down and embarrass him. Which will lead to more anti-Floyd excuse making from his detractors.

It's not at all that simple.

Fighting Pacqiaou is like fighting a robot. He doesn't get tired, he doesn't get hurt, he just keeps punching hard and aggressively with no visible change in demeanor. Floyd will embarrass him if it goes beyond three rounds? That's nonsense bro. Keep fighting the power.

Dasher
05-02-2010, 08:48 PM
Pac has been on the canvas. He is also very predictable. Floyd does not get tired himself. Floyd has the size, speed, chin, and skill advantage.

~primetime~
05-02-2010, 08:58 PM
I also think that Floyd will kill Pac...

and if Vegas is giving 1/1 odds on the fight, I will have my money on "the money"...

Gundress
05-02-2010, 09:10 PM
I also think that Floyd will kill Pac...

and if Vegas is giving 1/1 odds on the fight, I will have my money on "the money"...


Pacman vs Clottey fought at the Cowboys Stadium was meant to be Pacman vs Money Mayweather.

Tito Beasley
05-02-2010, 09:12 PM
I also think that Floyd will kill Pac...

and if Vegas is giving 1/1 odds on the fight, I will have my money on "the money"...


I just don't see it. I don't think Floyd's strategy of letting the other guy do the fighting while he picks his spots and waits for him to tire will work on Pac. As they say in sports, good offense beats good defense. The exception happens when the defense is better overall than the offense, but I think Manny's offense is too good right now. I'm not gonna go and say I think it's a clear choice or that it would be easy in any way, but if I had to pick heads up I'm taking Pac

Younggrease
05-02-2010, 10:59 PM
I just don't see it. I don't think Floyd's strategy of letting the other guy do the fighting while he picks his spots and waits for him to tire will work on Pac. As they say in sports, good offense beats good defense. The exception happens when the defense is better overall than the offense, but I think Manny's offense is too good right now. I'm not gonna go and say I think it's a clear choice or that it would be easy in any way, but if I had to pick heads up I'm taking Pac

b/c thats all he does:oldlol:

Pac is a one trick pony, take that trick away and there isnt much there. Just that there arent many guys who "know" how to box and take those things away.

Tito Beasley
05-02-2010, 11:03 PM
this would not even be floyd's strategy, if you saw how he fought mosley, his best defense was really his offense. he used a great mixup of passive/aggressive boxing and the result was mosley having no answer. floyd's best attribute is his defense, but its really part of his main arsenal which is surrounded around ring control and spacing.

Dude Floyd wasn't getting anything clean on Mosley until Mosley's endurance hit a wall in the 4th round, and then Floyd started being aggressive. Mosley won the first two rounds pretty handily and literally only once he began to lose stamina did Floyd manage to get any offense going.

When both guys were fresh, Mosley was getting the better shots in. Manny Pac has better offense than Mosley, AND isn't gonna get tired. I don't see how anyone thinks this fight would heavily favor Mayweather.

Younggrease
05-02-2010, 11:07 PM
Dude Floyd wasn't getting anything clean on Mosley until Mosley's endurance hit a wall in the 4th round, and then Floyd started being aggressive. Mosley won the first two rounds pretty handily and literally only once he began to lose stamina did Floyd manage to get any offense going.

When both guys were fresh, Mosley was getting the better shots in. Manny Pac has better offense than Mosley, AND isn't gonna get tired.

Floyd does that in almost every fight, he measures his opponent. He is measuring distance, establishing counters etc. Moseley wasnt tired in the fourth round, he was confused. He was still moving fine, he just didnt know what to do.

Tito Beasley
05-02-2010, 11:16 PM
Floyd does that in almost every fight, he measures his opponent. He is measuring distance, establishing counters etc. Moseley wasnt tired in the fourth round, he was confused. He was still moving fine, he just didnt know what to do.

Wow.

Mosley was visibly breathing heavy and moving slowly. He was CLEARLY gassed.

It's amazing that people are trying to spin this as "He had pummeled Floyd for two rounds but then suddenly didnt know what he was doing so that made him look tired but he really wasnt."

That's one of the worst excuses I've ever heard anyone's stans make.

Dasher
05-02-2010, 11:24 PM
He pummeled him for one round. Two out of Three judges gave the first round to Floyd who outlanded Shane. Shane could not get off after the 2nd round because he had been solved. When the ref refused to let him rough house Floyd he was out of weaponry.

Younggrease
05-02-2010, 11:25 PM
Wow.

Mosley was visibly breathing heavy and moving slowly. He was CLEARLY gassed.
It's amazing that people are trying to spin this as "He had pummeled Floyd for two rounds but then suddenly didnt know what he was doing so that made him look tired but he really wasnt."

That's one of the worst excuses I've ever heard anyone's stans make.

so he was gassed for the whole fight, or just after he tried to finish Mayweather. Mosely doesnt know how to box, similar to Manny. Floyd measured him up and got his timing down and there was nothing he could do. That is what Floyd does to everyone, but then people always find some crazy way to discredit his performance. Floyd makes everyone look bad, its not that Moseley was spendt, he was measured and put into a box that technical skill wouldnt allow him to get out of.

DeuceWallaces
05-02-2010, 11:43 PM
Dude Floyd wasn't getting anything clean on Mosley until Mosley's endurance hit a wall in the 4th round, and then Floyd started being aggressive. Mosley won the first two rounds pretty handily and literally only once he began to lose stamina did Floyd manage to get any offense going.

When both guys were fresh, Mosley was getting the better shots in. Manny Pac has better offense than Mosley, AND isn't gonna get tired. I don't see how anyone thinks this fight would heavily favor Mayweather.

Shane only won round 2.

Reef
05-02-2010, 11:48 PM
Shane only won round 2.

I had the same thing. I gave the first round to Floyd.

DeuceWallaces
05-02-2010, 11:50 PM
I had the same thing. I gave the first round to Floyd.

I was referring to the judges. Personally, I would have accepted a split.

Reef
05-02-2010, 11:56 PM
I was referring to the judges. Personally, I would have accepted a split.

Only one judge gave only the 2nd round to Shane. The other two both scored the 1st and 2nd for Shane.

Tito Beasley
05-02-2010, 11:57 PM
Shane only won round 2.

Oh, I could have swore when they showed the score card on TV it had Shane winning the first 2 rounds, but I guess that may have just been the TV analysts personal scorecard.

Regardless, you could see as the middle rounds were beginning that Mosley was VISIBLY tired. It had nothing to do with anyone figuring anything out or who knows how to do what, even when they were standing apart Mosley was dragging and out of breath.

There is no disputing that Mosley got the better shots in during the early round, in fact Floyd got pretty much nothing clean in. You could even see Floyd was surprised and getting frustrated. Then Mosley began to drag and looked very fatigued and that's when Mayweather started to dominate. How can anyone who watched the fight can argue this. That will not happen with Pacqiaou. He will not get tired so quickly, and he WILL land hard punches on Floyd. There is no question about it. Mayweather will have to go toe-to-toe with Pacqiaou and I personally don't like his chances.

plowking
05-03-2010, 12:49 AM
Only reason Pac doesn't get tired is because he's on PED's. Wait until he fights clean and then we'll see what happens.

You don't act so hesitant towards a test if you're not in the wrong. First it was "it makes me weak", now it's, "Floyd is bigger, thus he would have the advantage"... All we hear is excuses from Pac's side, though all you'll hear in the mainstream media is "Is Floyd scared of Pac", when it's clearly the other way around. Pac's the one with the title, and he's too scared to ask the clear number one contender for a bout.

Tito Beasley
05-03-2010, 01:02 AM
Only reason Pac doesn't get tired is because he's on PED's. Wait until he fights clean and then we'll see what happens.

You don't act so hesitant towards a test if you're not in the wrong. First it was "it makes me weak", now it's, "Floyd is bigger, thus he would have the advantage"... All we hear is excuses from Pac's side, though all you'll hear in the mainstream media is "Is Floyd scared of Pac", when it's clearly the other way around. Pac's the one with the title, and he's too scared to ask the clear number one contender for a bout.

You should wait and see what the end result is before drawing those conclusions. Pac may well end up granting the testing request when its time to schedule the fight. The two sides had to concoct some reason for them not to fight yet, as both sides wanted to make some extra money with buildup fights before they square off. Right now the buzz around the two is huge. If they would have fought already, the pacqiaou-clottey and mayweather-mosley would have no appeal to the casual fan. They're milking this thing, so they had to come up with some sort of contrived controversy to give to the public as to why they aren't fighting right now. There's always an angle with these guys. Manny Pacqiaou is not giving up the payday that comes with a bout with Floyd over PED's. Even if he's on PED's and is gauranteed to lose by having to stop, he'll still fight. The money is too great.

So I'd say chill with all the conclusions until you know exactly how the whole thing shakes out.

Tarik One
05-03-2010, 01:29 AM
Tito, you sound like a relentless Floyd hater. Shane was nowhere near tired. As one poster noted, Shane was bewildered after Floyd was able to make ADJUSTMENTS. This has nothing to do with fatigue. You act as if stamina was the cause of Mosley not being able to repeat what he did in round 2, yet completely neglecting the fact that Floyd had everything to do with Mosley being ineffective. If you've looked at a history of Floyd's fights, he's no stranger to getting in some trouble early with opponents, particularly fighters with adverse styles, yet he's able to overcome and dominate the rest of the way.

No matter what Floyd does, the haters will always make lame excuses.

YAWN
05-03-2010, 01:35 AM
Tito, you sound like a relentless Floyd hater. Shane was nowhere near tired. As one poster noted, Shane was bewildered after Floyd was able to make ADJUSTMENTS. This has nothing to do with fatigue. You act as if stamina was the cause of Mosley not being able to repeat what he did in round 2, yet completely neglecting the fact that Floyd had everything to do with Mosley being ineffective. If you've looked at a history of Floyd's fights, he's no stranger to getting in some trouble early with opponents, particularly fighters with adverse styles, yet he's able to overcome and dominate the rest of the way.

No matter what Floyd does, the haters will always make lame excuses.

Uhmm did you see him in his ****ing corner after round 3 through the end of the fight? Dude looked like he had just ran a ****ing marathon...Floyd had some to do with his ineffectiveness, but you guys are going overboard with your PBF praise to where you are seeing shit that isn't there.

Hope PBF and MP camps come out talking shit about each other to make sure this fight happens.

plowking
05-03-2010, 02:02 AM
It's incredible. After each one of his 40+ wins, there's always some excuse and negatives as to why Floyd was able to win.

"He was tired"
"His shoe lace wasn't tied properly in the 7th round"
"Floyd is cheating by being better"
"He can't just dodge his punch and hit him back. That's gotta be illegal."

Fact is, he keeps winning. Keep on hating.

IcanzIIravor
05-03-2010, 02:03 AM
Wow.

Mosley was visibly breathing heavy and moving slowly. He was CLEARLY gassed.

It's amazing that people are trying to spin this as "He had pummeled Floyd for two rounds but then suddenly didnt know what he was doing so that made him look tired but he really wasnt."

That's one of the worst excuses I've ever heard anyone's stans make.

Round 1 was a toss up so I don't see how you can say Shane pummeled him for 2 rounds. Second round went to Shane though he could put Mayweather on the canvass because Mayweather effectively tied him up enough to get his legs back and survive the round. The third round Mayweather completely changed his game plan and that is what left Shane confused. Rewatch round three and you'll see the difference in Mayweather from the first two rounds. Shane didn't have a plan B and once Mayweather got his timing down it was on. Shane didn't gas out til I believe the fifth round. When you miss most of your punches that exudes a lot more energy than them landing effectively.

Are you one of the people who said Shane was over the hill before the match or is this monday morning quarterbacking?

Tito Beasley
05-03-2010, 02:06 AM
No matter what Floyd does, the haters will always make lame excuses.

I have no bias for or against any fighters. In fact it's the people who always break out the term "haters" (see: kobe stans) that are the ones with agendas.

Dude, you could SEE Shane was getting tired after the first few rounds, and it was BEFORE Mayweather started landing consistent punches. I'm not saying that Floyd DIDNT make adjustments or that he didnt win because he's the better fighter. But to sit there and say Mosley was visibly out of breath and had a sagging posture because he was confused? No dude. You could see he was simply fatigued from fighting. Whether that was Floyd's plan or not, the point is it won't happen to Pacqiao. I just think Pacqiao has looked more impressive in recent fights than has Mayweather.

Tito Beasley
05-03-2010, 02:07 AM
Keep on hating.


:rolleyes:

RoTM
05-03-2010, 02:09 AM
Personally I think Shane was both gassed and out boxed.

sunsfan1357
05-03-2010, 02:12 AM
Is the fight uploaded anywhere online so I can watch it now?

IcanzIIravor
05-03-2010, 02:27 AM
I have no bias for or against any fighters. In fact it's the people who always break out the term "haters" (see: kobe stans) that are the ones with agendas.

Dude, you could SEE Shane was getting tired after the first few rounds, and it was BEFORE Mayweather started landing consistent punches. I'm not saying that Floyd DIDNT make adjustments or that he didnt win because he's the better fighter. But to sit there and say Mosley was visibly out of breath and had a sagging posture because he was confused? No dude. You could see he was simply fatigued from fighting. Whether that was Floyd's plan or not, the point is it won't happen to Pacqiao. I just think Pacqiao has looked more impressive in recent fights than has Mayweather.


It will definitely be a good fight. I just think Manny will have to have a plan B and not just count on taking on Floyd the way he has taken on the last few opponents. I hope it happens as it will break records. Either way I think it will be a close fight and their will be a rematch that takes place and then they both ride off into retirement.

L.Kizzle
05-03-2010, 02:42 AM
Is the fight uploaded anywhere online so I can watch it now?
Where were you yesterday when the whole world was watching?

Gundress
05-03-2010, 02:47 AM
Is the fight uploaded anywhere online so I can watch it now?


:oldlol: :oldlol:

Tarik One
05-03-2010, 02:52 AM
you might be able to catch it on youtube before it gets snatched off

sunsfan1357
05-03-2010, 02:59 AM
Where were you yesterday when the whole world was watching?

Camping trip with a school organization I'm in. Left early so I guess I technically didn't go camping, but didn't leave early enough to watch the fight.

L.Kizzle
05-03-2010, 08:23 PM
Camping trip with a school organization I'm in. Left early so I guess I technically didn't go camping, but didn't leave early enough to watch the fight.
Mayweather/Mosley >>>>> camping trip!

Gundress
05-03-2010, 08:29 PM
Mayweather/Mosley >>>>> camping trip!


I am just curious...

who's your top 10 rappers of all time?

yellownpurple
05-03-2010, 11:42 PM
has there been any post fight interviews? links?

L.Kizzle
11-14-2010, 01:53 AM
Rematch!!!

RedBlackAttack
11-14-2010, 02:19 AM
Why would there be a rematch? The first fight wasn't remotely close. Mark me down as extremely disappointed if that were to happen.

It would be even more one-sided than the first.

Brujesino
11-14-2010, 03:33 AM
Why would there be a rematch? The first fight wasn't remotely close. Mark me down as extremely disappointed if that were to happen.

It would be even more one-sided than the first.
Also considering he got a draw in his last fight but really should have lost.

magic chiongson
11-14-2010, 04:03 AM
if floyd won't fight pac, here's some good options

williams @147-154,cotto@154,khan @ 147(in decreasing order in terms of difficulty )

L.Kizzle
03-05-2011, 06:27 PM
when is the Manny and Shane fight? I can't find anything about it on HBO?

Melo Screwed Us
03-05-2011, 06:29 PM
when is the Manny and Shane fight? I can't find anything about it on HBO?
i think it's gonna be on showtime, may 7

L.Kizzle
03-05-2011, 06:32 PM
i think it's gonna be on showtime, may 7
Showtime, what! I got rid of Showtime. Well, I guess streams here I come when the fight takes place.

Will it be at Cowboy Stadium again, all of Manny's recent fights have been there?

Melo Screwed Us
03-05-2011, 06:34 PM
Showtime, what! I got rid of Showtime. Well, I guess streams here I come when the fight takes place.

Will it be at Cowboy Stadium again, all of Manny's recent fights have been there?
vegas i'm pretty sure. probably mgm grand