The Official Floyd "Money" Mayweather -vs- "Sugar" Shane Mosley Thread

[L.Kizzle]

http://media.onsugar.com/files/2010/01/04/6/342/3425287/89027f3df09260b6_mayweather-mosley-456-latdep-fn.jpg


The fight is scheduled May 1st, 2010 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada. But we get a 24/7 that kicks off next week, April 10th.


Hell, but even before that, we got a few previews all the way back at the Juan Manuel Marquez bout when Shane entered the ring.
Mayweather/Mosley in the ring (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zkc6ZEFeZc)


SUGAR SHANE MOSLEY
38
welterweight
orthodox
5′ 9″
74″
Boxing record
Total fights 52
Wins 46
Wins by KO 39
Losses 5
No contests 1


FLOYD MONEY MAYWEATHER
33
welterweight
orthodox
5′ 8″
72″
Boxing record
Total fights 40
Wins 40
Wins by KO 25
Losses 0
Draws 0


Money and Sugar Face Off (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlch1Ar22AU)

[L.Kizzle]

The first episode of 24/7 starts later tonight. Anticipation the fight f the year.

[Gundress]

Nobody Gives A Shit About Your Thread So Move On L>zzle


You Better Stick To Black Music Threads...you Son Of A *****!

[L.Kizzle]

Nobody Gives A Shit About Your Thread So Move On L>zzle


You Better Stick To Black Music Threads...you Son Of A *****!
Whats goin on, did you wake up the wrong side of the bed.

[Gundress]

Whats goin on, did you wake up the wrong side of the bed.

WTF WHAT R YOU DOING IN MORNING THEN? AND WHY YOU QUESTION ME?

[L.Kizzle]

WTF WHAT R YOU DOING IN MORNING THEN? AND WHY YOU QUESTION ME?
Take a deep breathe.

[Gundress]

Take a deep breathe.

OK...I TAKE A DEEP BREATHE ...WOOOSA.....WOOOSA...WOOOSA

[L.Kizzle]

OK...I TAKE A DEEP BREATHE ...WOOOSA.....WOOOSA...WOOOSA
You must have been drunk.

[Gundress]

You must have been drunk.


SMH @ me for not remember what I said.

Sorry for ruining your thread.

[RedBlackAttack]

You must have been drunk.
Gundress has frequent nonsensical outbursts. Don't take it personally.

He is like the ISH version of:

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6056/amberlamps2.jpg

[BlazersDozen]

Floyd should win but I have a strange gut feeling that Shane is going to do the damn thing and win this fight.

[RedBlackAttack]

I posted this in another related thread, but it may be more appropriate here...

[QUOTE]Mayweather Camp Notes:
Bring On The Heat . . . Training Camp Intensity Like Never Before
April 8, 2010

The mood has been very serious in the Mayweather Boxing Gym as superstar and six-time World Champion Floyd "Money" Mayweather prepares for his May 1 showdown against WBA Welterweight World Champion Sugar Shane Mosley at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas and live on HBO Pay-Per-View

[raiderfan19]

this is absolutely going to be an amazing fight. I wish floyd wasnt so against fighting at jerry world. I would definitely go to this one if it was in dallas. Oh well, the first boxing ppv ive bought in a couple of years will have to do.(ive seen others at friends houses and sportsbars but ill actually spend my own money on this one)

[~primetime~]

SMH @ me for not remember what I said.

Sorry for ruining your thread.
:oldlol:

good for you owning up to your bad and apologizing...

_____________________


This is not going to be good...this is going to be a case of "damn, I can't belive I they were able to hype Sugar up to the point that I thought he had a chance"

[RedBlackAttack]

This is not going to be good...this is going to be a case of "damn, I can't belive I they were able to hype Sugar up to the point that I thought he had a chance"
Don't start diminishing SSM. If Floyd dominates him, it will be because he is just that damn good. It bothers me when people make preemptive excuses in boxing (regardless of whom we are discussing). There is nothing in SSM's recent performances to believe that he is simply being hyped.

Floyd may dominate him, but he dominates damn near everyone.

[L.Kizzle]

:oldlol:

good for you owning up to your bad and apologizing...

_____________________


This is not going to be good...this is going to be a case of "damn, I can't belive I they were able to hype Sugar up to the point that I thought he had a chance"
I doubt Shane just gets manhandled.

[JM720]

24/7 almost here... should be great tonight.

[raiderfan19]

I cant watch 24/7 tonight. :( have to go guard someone who tried to drive a car through wal mart this morning.

[L.Kizzle]

Funny episode of 24/7. Floyd id crazy.

[DonDadda59]

That was a good, but unusually low-key episode. Loved how they opened with 'surviving the times' by Nas :pimp: I'm actually happy to see Floyd and his father patch things up, their relationship was downright venomous for a long time. Life's too short for all that pettiness.

Anyone watching Boxing after Dark? Berto vs Quintana should be great, and Pelenchin is one of my favorite fighters.

[L.Kizzle]

That was a good, but unusually low-key episode. Loved how they opened with 'surviving the times' by Nas :pimp: I'm actually happy to see Floyd and his father patch things up, their relationship was downright venomous for a long time. Life's too short for all that pettiness.

Anyone watching Boxing after Dark? Berto vs Quintana should be great, and Pelenchin is one of my favorite fighters.
What's the undercard for Mosley/Wayweather?

[DonDadda59]

What's the undercard for Mosley/Wayweather?

No clue. But I wouldn't be surprised if Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez is on the card since he's GBP's new prized prospect.

[L.Kizzle]

Did anyone catch 24/7 today? I missed it.

[JM720]

Did anyone catch 24/7 today? I missed it.

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAgJGhncv_k

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFIFnPafG00

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tcdyNM61ds

[L.Kizzle]

Everytime I see Roger, I just crack up.

[GOBB]

Gundress has frequent nonsensical outbursts. Don't take it personally.

He is like the ISH version of:

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6056/amberlamps2.jpg

:roll:

[GOBB]

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAgJGhncv_k

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFIFnPafG00

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tcdyNM61ds

Shane talks so weird I find myself laughing. I cant stop laughing at Floyd tho.

"He said i fight for money? You f*ckin dummy i'm a prize fighter. I fight for a prize, duh!"

:oldlol:

[Stephen_H]

Floyd Gayrunner has no concept of how boxing works. You fight for a while, then you retire. Once you go away, you are compared to other fighters. This is where Floyd will be judged to be a COWARD. How many times has Floyd rolled the dice in his career? How many epic fights has Floyd been in? Who can determine him to be the GOAT, when he hasn't fought anyone?!

Now Floyd is 33 years old, coming down the home stretch. All we can do is hope he sticks around too long (ala Roy Jones Junior) and gets KO'd!

[Jailblazers7]

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAgJGhncv_k

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFIFnPafG00

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tcdyNM61ds

Floyd - "I'm better than Sugar Ray Robinson"

Floyd has definitely got a mouth on him. I can understand being confident in your own ability but I doubt he would be saying that if it were possible for Robinson to actually fight him.

[L.Kizzle]

IS 24/7 not coming on before the fight?

[L.Kizzle]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47744000/jpg/_47744664_mayweather282.jpg

Weight in is tomorrow.

[RedBlackAttack]

[SIZE="4"][B]Go, Boxing! It

[RedBlackAttack]

(cont)


And Mayweather isn

[DeuceWallaces]

I'm pumped! Wish I was home so I could go out to the bar and watch it amongst all the excitement.

[L.Kizzle]

I'm pumped! Wish I was home so I could go out to the bar and watch it amongst all the excitement.
You're not gonna watch the fight?

[DeuceWallaces]

You're not gonna watch the fight?

Of course I am; what about my post made you think otherwise?

[Black Joker]

i wish i was, but i'm going out with some of my friends, who don't enjoy boxing

[L.Kizzle]

Of course I am; what about my post made you think otherwise?
I thought I read "wish I was home so I could watch it."

[Undisputed]

Watched all of the 24/7's on this fight last night. I could lose sleep thinking about this match-up. Glad it's on Saturday.

[Gundress]

I'll have a party tonight...family and my friend will be at my house tow atching ****ing boxing game.....CAN"T WAIT!

[Lebron23]

Official Weigh In

Shane Mosley - 147 lbs
Floyd Mayweather - 146 lbs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r0LheaHXus&feature=player_embedded

[LJJ]

I hope I can get a good stream for this.

[Tarik One]

Leaving work early today just for this. Can't Wait. There Nothing like a big fight. Boxing needs Floyd. *** the Klitchkos

[Jailblazers7]

I hope I can get a good stream for this.

+1

[The Big Skinny]

I'm tryna go to a bar and see it....

anyone know where this will be played?

hooters?
Buffalo wild wings?
etc

[Reef]

I hope Shane knocks Floyd's ass out but I think Floyd will take it by UD. After watching 24/7, I definitely got more respect for Shane and Nazim. May just acted like a jackass.

[bada bing]

if Floyd loses we will never see pacman/floyd. I want to see Floyd win this one so there is some probability of him meeting Pac and that fight would be huge.

[L.Kizzle]

Whoot Whoot, tonight.

[Jailblazers7]

I'm getting real sick of some of my friends talking about this fight. All they say is Floyd is this and Floyd is that but all they really know about boxing is what SportsCenter tells them.

[johndeeregreen]

Can someone in the know PM me a link for tonight?

[Jailblazers7]

Can someone in the know PM me a link for tonight?

Ditto.

[Younggrease]

Can someone in the know PM me a link for tonight?

same here, there was an awesome link to the Pac fight last time. Im hoping for something similar.

[InspiredLebowski]

I like Floyd and all, but hearing him trash talk just makes me realize how special Ali's promotional skills were.

[Im so nba'd out]

I'm getting real sick of some of my friends talking about this fight. All they say is Floyd is this and Floyd is that but all they really know about boxing is what SportsCenter tells them.
shouldnt u be telling your friends this :ohwell:

[L.Kizzle]

IS the Countdown that comes on hour before part of the Boxing order?

On the regular PPV channel, Boxing starts at 7 to 1 and on the HD PPV channel, there is a countdown at 7 and Boxing is separate at 8 to 1.

[Lebron23]

http://www.nowboxing.com/2010/05/live-stream-of-mayweather-vs-mosley-undercard/10860/

http://liveboxingstreams.blogspot.com/2010/04/shane-mosley-vs-floyd-mayweather-jr.html

http://tropangpinoy-tv.blogspot.com/2010/05/watch-mayweather-vs-mosley-live-stream.html

[Lebron23]

http://pacmantube.blogspot.com/2010/05/live-stream-mayweather-vs-mosley.html

http://streampinoy.info/

http://pacquiao-vs-mayweather.zxq.net/

http://www.unlitv.net/2010/05/watch-floyd-mayweather-vs-shane-mosley_6926.html

http://www.unlitv.net/2010/05/watch-floyd-mayweather-vs-shane-mosley_1457.html

http://www.unlitv.net/2010/05/watch-floyd-mayweather-vs-shane-mosley_6549.html

http://www.unlitv.net/2010/05/watch-floyd-mayweather-vs-shane-mosley_6549.html

http://www.unlitv.net/2010/05/watch-floyd-mayweather-vs-shane-mosley_5515.html

http://www.unlitv.net/2010/05/watch-floyd-mayweather-vs-shane-mosley_01.html

http://www.unlitv.net/2010/05/watch-floyd-mayweather-vs-shane-mosley.html



http://www.atdhe.net/7207/watch-floyd-mayweather-vs-shane-mosley

[Jackass18]

I hope Mosley knocks his ass out, but unfortunately Mayweather will win.

[JM720]

Bought the PPV.... cant wait.

[arkain]

same here, there was an awesome link to the Pac fight last time. Im hoping for something similar.

Yeah I was able to find a HD Veetle link right before the pac-clottey main event started, pretty sure the same guy will stream this time too.

[Jailblazers7]

shouldnt u be telling your friends this :ohwell:

Yeah because I didn't already do that or anything.

[bigboi_baller]

If anyone has a link, can you please PM me or post it here. I'll keep it on the dl. Dying to see this fight.

[johndeeregreen]

I know the PPV starts at 9 ET, but what time will May/Mosley duke it out? I've got a hockey game to watch here.

[Reef]

I know the PPV starts at 9 ET, but what time will May/Mosley duke it out? I've got a hockey game to watch here.

Probably not till midnight.

[Reef]

If anyone has a link, can you please PM me or post it here. I'll keep it on the dl. Dying to see this fight.

Check your PMs

[simcjt]

:wtf: was that

[Brujesino]

how much longer until the mayweather vs mosley fight?

[mrpuente]

Check your PMs
can i get some link action?

[Reef]

can i get some link action?

done

[DeuceWallaces]

If you post links they just get taken down faster Lebron23.

[1987_Lakers]

If anyone has a link, can you please PM me or post it here. I'll keep it on the dl. Dying to see this fight.

This

[qrich]

Yeah, if anyone has one that isn't as public as the ones that I find on a couple of sites, I'd like em.

[DeuceWallaces]

I got a killer SopCast feed, but does anyone have a decent HBO link?

[Reef]

I got a killer SopCast feed, but does anyone have a decent HBO link?

Done.

[plowking]

Someone got a link? Would be very much appreciated.

[arkain]

Can I get a link aswell, thanks.

[Reef]

arkain and plowking, check your PMs

[HisJoeness]

arkain and plowking, check your PMs

could you send it to me please?

[Lebron23]

could you send it to me please?

+1

[lbj4kb8]

Can anyone PM a link? I'm dying to see this fight.

[mrpuente]

that ginger is getting worked

anyways reef's doing a lot of work here just to send you guys a atdhe.net link

[Abd El-Krim]

Cotto on the undercard.

Man, **** Margarito.

[Abd El-Krim]

Wait, that's not the same Cotto.

This stream sucks.

[JaE_BLiZZy]

anyone have a link?

[Im so nba'd out]

could someone pm me a link please and thank you

[Da Ballahollic]

hit me up with a link someone. THANKS

[1987_Lakers]

Someone please pm me the link too.

[Younggrease]

Could be awesome and hook me up with a link?

[Younggrease]

Yeah I was able to find a HD Veetle link right before the pac-clottey main event started, pretty sure the same guy will stream this time too.

yeah, thats the one I had last time, I HOPE he does that agan. IF he does can you send me the link?

[YAWN]

Anyone have a link they can PM?

[johndeeregreen]

Anyone have a link they can PM?
The atdhe.net one a couple pages back is low quality, but works.

Super excited for this tilt. Go Sugar Shane.

[phelix2000]

Can someone please send me a link to the fight.

[Dasher]

Pbf!

[arkain]

yeah, thats the one I had last time, I HOPE he does that agan. IF he does can you send me the link?

Found an HD LINK, its sopcast this time, not veetle.

sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/94325

[YAWN]

The atdhe.net one a couple pages back is low quality, but works.

Super excited for this tilt. Go Sugar Shane.

thanks

[Younggrease]

Found an HD LINK, its sopcast this time, not veetle.

sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/94325

good look, even though I dont have sopcast:hammerhead:

[IcanzIIravor]

haha chris brown!

I think it appropriate they put in someone who likes to let his hands go to sing the anthem.

[Abd El-Krim]

Shoulda got Stackhouse.

[Dasher]

I think it appropriate they put in someone who likes to let his hands go to sing the anthem.
LOL

[brandonislegend]

I think it appropriate they put in someone who likes to let his hands go to sing the anthem.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[YAWN]

what the **** is this guys stalling for

****, link died

[qrich]

Really need a link! Will rep :D

[NYballin]

haha chris brown!
yeah he kinda sucked

[NYballin]

Really need a link! Will rep :D
http://atdhe.net/index.html

im using it now

[YAWN]

Really need a link! Will rep :D
i think the third one there is the one working for me now:
http://atdhe.net/

[qrich]

Well yeah, I'm on there, but was trying to see if anyone had another one that worked

[jjswifty]

Found an HD LINK, its sopcast this time, not veetle.

sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/94325

nice. :cheers:

sopcast doesnt take long to install for those that dont have it.

[johndeeregreen]

Link busted, help!

[YAWN]

http://atdhe.net/18572/watch-floyd-mayweather-vs-shane-mosley

[johndeeregreen]

Mother F*cking Piece Of Shit Stream F*cking Crapping Out In The Middle Of The F*cking Round God Fu*cking Dammit

[FashionIssues]

floyd hurt!

[johndeeregreen]

The f*cking SECOND Mosley hits him with the right, it starts to lag. ****.

[YAWN]

manny would of laid floyd out in that round :lol

[Jackass18]

Nice second round

[jjswifty]

Get Sopcast. Links never die.

[YAWN]

The f*cking SECOND Mosley hits him with the right, it starts to lag. ****.
im on this one now
http://atdhe.net/7207/watch-floyd-mayweather-vs-shane-mosley

And now its dead ****

[1987_Lakers]

Looks even so far

[qrich]

Good fight so far, 2-1 Sugar shane

[beasly15]

link?????????????

[qrich]

atdhe's website isn't even working for me..FML

[johndeeregreen]

Mother f*cker I'm losing my FCKING MIND RIGHT THE FCK NOW.

[beasly15]

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

somebody!!

[Eggy]

Mother f*cker I'm losing my FCKING MIND RIGHT THE FCK NOW.
Use sopcast.
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/94325

[Abd El-Krim]

Use sopcast.

Suck a dick.

[beasly15]

alright, it's on, for now..

[FashionIssues]

floyd is in control now. it's only a matter of time. shane looks like a confused prey.

[johndeeregreen]

F*ck this. Seriously, f*ck this. I'm NOT paying $75 for this piece of shit PPV (yes that was the cost in Canada), is it too f*cking much to ask for a functioning stream? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!

[1987_Lakers]

Mosley is gonna need a KO to win this fight, Floyd is out boxing him right now.

[YAWN]

this is gonna be over next round.

[Abd El-Krim]

F*ck this. Seriously, f*ck this. I'm NOT paying $75 for this piece of shit PPV (yes that was the cost in Canada), is it too f*cking much to ask for a functioning stream? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!

The cost of boxing ppv is out of control. I love the sport but I've burned too many times in the past to stomach throwing down again. If I don't go out, I try to find a stream. If I can't do that, I watch House or some shit.

[ILballa]

http://atdhe.net/18582/watch-floyd-mayweather-vs-shane-mosley

[YAWN]

worst luck ive ever had with links, ****ing a

[1987_Lakers]

http://www.blogtv.com/People/sportsjunkie99

[johndeeregreen]

worst luck ive ever had with links, ****ing a
No doubt, never been disconnected from 6+ links during the course of one event. Mosley's getting owned so that makes me care a little less.

[DeuceWallaces]

Happens every big fight; just use Veetle or SopCast. Don't have to worry about that.

[Eggy]

Suck a dick.
What the ****?

[YAWN]

hope mosley at least tries to go for a knockout, but it seems like he doesnt even have the strength anymore

[1manfastbreak]

god damn floyd got dummy ass hands. his shits are QUICK

[IcanzIIravor]

Money May putting on a clinic at this point.

[johndeeregreen]

Happens every big fight; just use Veetle or SopCast. Don't have to worry about that.
Whatever, I'm so pissed off with this nonsense and Mosley doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell anyway. I've caught enough to realize that much.

[WuTangWizard]

Why should you guys be able to watch for free easily online when millions of people are paying for PPV? Stop being ****ing gypsies and pay for it or stop b!tching

[FashionIssues]

manny can be as active as floyd for 12 rounds. that fight needs to happen.

[johndeeregreen]

Why should you guys be able to watch for free easily online when millions of people are paying for PPV? Stop being ****ing gypsies and pay for it or stop b!tching
I want to watch the fight. Do I want to pay an absolutely heinous fee of $75 to do it? No. I'd gladly pay $30 for it, but since I don't have that option, this is what I got.

To summarize: eat a dick.

[HisJoeness]

god damn floyd got dummy ass hands. his shits are QUICK

Needs Google Translate.

[Brujesino]

Mayweather=unstoppable:bowdown:

[juju151111]

FMM took him apart. LMAO

[Lebron23]

Mayweather

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[magic chiongson]

mayweather & pac really need to fight each other now. screw that blood testing shit. i say 20% - pac, 30% - mayweather, 50% to whoever wins :rockon:

[qrich]

Went like what I expected

[Da Ballahollic]

Yeahhhhhhh Floyd.

[Dasher]

Man I expected it to be closer than this. PacMan should avoid Floyd. I outweigh Floyd by a dollar, but even the gamma irradiated Dash would duck Money Mayweather.

[YAWN]

floyds gonna have to be better than this or manny is gonna lay his ass out when they fight. Would of been out cold in the 2nd round if that was a manny punch.

[1987_Lakers]

My respect for Mayweather just went up.

[DeuceWallaces]

Money money money!

[brandonislegend]

floyds gonna have to be better than this or manny is gonna lay his ass out when they fight. Would of been out cold in the 2nd round if that was a manny punch.

:no:

[FashionIssues]

just take the damn tests manny

[DonDadda59]

Hell of a performance by Money May, the man doesn't get rattled in the ring. Looked like he was in trouble early, but he kept calm and executed his game plan :applause:

Shane's conditioning was awful, he fizzled out during the 4th or 5th and was just throwing pitty pat punches, no power whatsoever. And the game plan was bizarre as hell, why would you let Floyd press the action and stay in the center of the ring? :wtf:

Might've just been Sugar being gassed and not being able to execute after the early rounds, but I hold Brother Naazim in high regard... I really hope that wasn't the plan they worked out.

Either way, first entertaining Floyd fight in many years :applause:

[johndeeregreen]

Money money money!
This should be his entrance. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cDWPvhiPWg)

I'd be a fan.

[DatDudeD]

floyds gonna have to be better than this or manny is gonna lay his ass out when they fight. Would of been out cold in the 2nd round if that was a manny punch.

Maybe so, the thing is that floyd is a technician in the ring i think if paquiao wants to win its has to be within the first 3 or 4 rounds , because floyd is as good as in in adjusting what he needs to do to completely take the other fighter out of the fight. I didnt watch tonights fight but i was on espn listening to the live cast and after the first couple of rounds floyd adjusted to mosley and picked him apart. I think that manny and floyd HAVE to fight now for the sake of boxing as a whole.

[brandonislegend]

Why won't manny take the tests? I dont understand?

[johndeeregreen]

Shane's conditioning was awful
This. WTF Shane?

[Brujesino]

Why won't manny take the tests? I dont understand?
hes scared...of mayweather and needles

[YAWN]

Why won't manny take the tests? I dont understand?

he agreed to take some blood tests up til a certain point but didn't want one within the 2 weeks leading up to the fight or some shit. Hope they figure something out and make it happen.

[Jackass18]

Decent enough fight, but Mosley faded after the second round which was sad, and the commentators hanging on Mayweather's nuts for the entire fight was annoying, but it was kind of funny to hear Mayweather tripping over his words when asked about facing Pacman.

[L.Kizzle]

Good fight. Mayweather is just too good. I thought Shane was gonna take him in round two though. Shane wasn't fighting a Shane fight, or was it that May was so good he couldn't get into his fight.

**Please people, this shouldn't take away from Shane Mosley, he's still great ...**

[Reef]

Besides Pac, I can only see Paul Williams giving Floyd trouble. Maybe some of the junior WW's like Devon Alexander, Tim Bradley, or junior MW's like Martinez and Angulo could give him some trouble, but likely not. Dude is too talented.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

it put me to sleep literally. i miss prime mike tyson

[plowking]

Pac needs to man up.

The blood test isn't like where you donate blood and they take out damn near a litre of blood. It's a tiny sample.

The guy is hiding something and scared of Floyd.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Boxing is dead.

Only Manny vs Mayweather can save it (preferably in Dallas)

[Undisputed]

Boxing is dead.

Only Manny vs Mayweather can save it (preferably in Dallas)

If you truly like boxing, it's far from dead.

[IcanzIIravor]

Boxing is dead.

Only Manny vs Mayweather can save it (preferably in Dallas)

You've been missing out on some quality boxing if you think only Manny and Mayweather are worth watching.

[RedBlackAttack]

Just got home and I have a beautiful buzz working, so sorry if I'm a bit more incoherent than usual....

Anyway, absolutely phenomenal performance by Floyd. This was the best win of his career, in my estimation. That isn't just because Shane was a top-notch, athletic, big welterweight opponent, but because the way in which Floyd controlled the fight from the very start.

I commented to my buddy that Floyd came out looking the best I had ever seen him in the first round and that was before the good shot by SSM in the second. Floyd was actually pushing the tempo, walking down SSM for the majority of the bout. That was absolutely stunning and really the last thing that I expected.

That is the reason that Floyd got caught early on. It was a good couple of shots by Shane (the first one didn't hurt PBF at all, imo, it was the second on the temple that momentarily buckled his lead leg). That was a nice, crisp inside hook and he timed Floyd really well.

One note about that shot...

It answered some questions about Floyd's ability to take a punch. Those weren't just two crisp, clean, short punches, they were done in the early part of a fight (when a puncher still has all of his power), and they were landed by a big puncher who is also a natural welterweight.

Not only did Mayweather take the punches, but he was able to completely keep his wits about him and go into defensive mode. The next thing you know, Shane had punched himself out trying to land another punch... Not a series of punches or the knockout punch, but any punch... And Floyd began connecting with counters almost immediately after being stunned.

As for the rest of the fight, it was a brilliant performance. I don't think Shane's lack of punches after the third round had anything to do with conditioning. He was absolutely and totally confused by Floyd's movement, distance, and counters. It got to the point where, anytime Shane would throw anything, he was getting hit with a series of counters in return and they were flush. So, he naturally grew weary of being active or else he paid the price.

Then, it was a clinic. I thought that Floyd could have actually gotten him out of there or, in the very least, Richardson would thrown in the towel if he really pushed it at the end. But, he didn't really push for the KO or stoppage.

I don't think any bold statements can be made about SSM after this fight, because you can't be too harsh on a guy who just fought one of the great technicians the sport has ever seen turning in his greatest performance to date.

Shane looked like the same guy to me that I have seen the last several years judging by his handspeed and movement. He was just over-matched.


Pacquiao-Mayweather has to happen... It just has to.

[RedBlackAttack]

Decent enough fight, but Mosley faded after the second round which was sad, and the commentators hanging on Mayweather's nuts for the entire fight was annoying, but it was kind of funny to hear Mayweather tripping over his words when asked about facing Pacman.
Erm... Hanging on FLOYD'S nuts? Did you hear Merchant in his prefight diatribe that revolved around Floyd being a 'dodger,' while Shane is a 'fighter.'? It was one of the more absurd things I have ever heard from a commentator in the boxing game.

Then, during the fight, Merchant talked about how Floyd doesn't have power and how Mosley looked old.

In the post-fight interview, he once again called Floyd a dodger.

And, he didn't trip over his words when talking about Pacquiao. He said that if Manny takes the test, the fight happens. If he doesn't, the fight doesn't happen.

You saw the fight tonight... Do you honestly believe Floyd fears fighting ANYONE? That was Shane Mosley he just completely and totally dominated... The guy who was considered the most ducked fighter in the sport prior to Floyd signing to fight him.

[Round Robin]

The MGM was jumping off tonight, Vegas gets pretty crazy during fight week...

Thought Floyd fought a solid ass fight as I was very impressed the way he kept his compusure during that second round onslaught by Shane...

All kinds of celebrities and fighters in attendace..Michael Buffer announced some of the names

-Mariah Carey
-Diddy
-Jay Z
-Ladanlian Tomlinson
-Arnold Schwarzennegger
-Chris Brown
-Joe Calzaghe
-Marco Antonio Barrera
-Andre Berto
-Anna Pacquian (WTF? I think that's what he said)
-Jets QB Mark Sanchez
-Will Smith
-Ricky Hatton
-Muhammad Ali

Countless others, but the place was just packed with people...

[RedBlackAttack]

The MGM was jumping off tonight, Vegas gets pretty crazy during fight week...

Thought Floyd fought a solid ass fight as I was very impressed the way he kept his compusure during that second round onslaught by Shane...

All kinds of celebrities and fighters in attendace..Michael Buffer announced some of the names

-Mariah Carey
-Diddy
-Jay Z
-Ladanlian Tomlinson
-Arnold Schwarzennegger
-Chris Brown
-Joe Calzaghe
-Marco Antonio Barrera
-Andre Berto
-Anna Pacquian (WTF? I think that's what he said)
-Jets QB Mark Sanchez
-Will Smith
-Ricky Hatton
-Muhammad Ali

Countless others, but the place was just packed with people...

Nice. What was the mood of the crowd as the fight progressed? Did they seem happy with the action? What was the mood afterward?

You can't always get a good read on that from watching it on television.

[~primetime~]

I told you it would be like that RBA...

I believe we even came close to avy betting...

other than the 2nd round, Shane looked old and washed up...out of shape..."DONE"

I told you that PBF was gonna mop the floor with Shane and you continued to tell me I was wrong...can't remember what thread that was though...

sometimes it doesn't take a boxing guru to know what to expect...

[RedBlackAttack]

I told you it would be like that RBA...

I believe we even came close to avy betting...

other than the 2nd round, Shane looked old and washed up...out of shape..."DONE"

I told you that PBF was gonna mop the floor with Shane and you continued to tell me I was wrong...can't remember what thread that was though...

sometimes it doesn't take a boxing guru to know what to expect...
Whoa, whoa, whoa...

You didn't tell me anything that I didn't already think and we certainly were not close to an avy bet. :oldlol:

I said that Floyd may dominate him, but it would be because he is an all-time great fighter, not because Shane is done as a fighter.

I stand by that. Go back and read the threads. Shane's absolute and total confusion tonight had nothing to do with conditioning or being shot as a fighter.

[thejumpa]

Damn....I was supposed to head out to Vegas to watch this fight but bailed at the last minute. Kinda wish I went. I ended up catching it at a bar in LA and collecting a few dollars so it's all good. Some people don't learn......never bet against Mayweather. I've put the house on him for years and everytime he comes through. The guy is as consistent as I've ever seen. Who's next?

[~primetime~]

Whoa, whoa, whoa...

You didn't tell me anything that I didn't already think and we certainly were not close to an avy bet. :oldlol:

I said that Floyd may dominate him, but it would be because he is an all-time great fighter, not because Shane is done as a fighter.

I stand by that. Go back and read the threads. Shane's absolute and total confusion tonight had nothing to do with conditioning or being shot as a fighter.
I wish I knew where that thread(s) is/are...

do you?

[~primetime~]

Shane's absolute and total confusion tonight had nothing to do with conditioning or being shot as a fighter.
^^^ this is wrong btw

you think Shane is still in his prime or something but just couldn't handle PBF?

he blew his load in the 2nd round and then after that he couldn't catch his breath...his stamina has gone to shit...

[~primetime~]

PBF will beat the shit out Manny too btw...

and I will be putting $$$ on that as bet the the odds will be close to 1/1

they better bring that shit to Dallas...the MGM looks like a closet compared to what Manny was fighting in...

[Jackass18]

Erm... Hanging on FLOYD'S nuts? Did you hear Merchant in his prefight diatribe that revolved around Floyd being a 'dodger,' while Shane is a 'fighter.'? It was one of the more absurd things I have ever heard from a commentator in the boxing game.

I didn't listen to anything before the fight. All I heard during the fight was how great Mayweather is, how he doesn't have a scratch on him, how he could easily stop Mosley with a couple of punches if he wanted to, how Mayweather can do whatever he wants, how Mayweather is a perfect boxer, blah blah blah.


And, he didn't trip over his words when talking about Pacquiao. He said that if Manny takes the test, the fight happens. If he doesn't, the fight doesn't happen.

He started mumbling and pausing a bit when he was talking.


You saw the fight tonight... Do you honestly believe Floyd fears fighting ANYONE?

We'll see. And, if you mean "ANYONE", then I'd like to see him do what Mayorga is about do in 2 weeks...

[~primetime~]

Mayweather is a perfect boxer

he really is...he has no weakness that I can see and he has pretty much EVERY tool that a boxer needs...

-speed
-stamina
-power
-chin
-skill
-ect

he has it all...

I think he is going to absolutly f*ck Manny up...

[RedBlackAttack]

I wish I knew where that thread(s) is/are...

do you?

Yep...


Me:


I don't think Pac will lose. I just said that I won't be shocked if Clottey were to pull it off. He is certainly capable.


You are talking out of your @ss, regardless of what happens in the fight. You said that Mosley is done and you cited his fights from the last 10 years as backing for your claim. You are just flat-out wrong and it isn't debatable.

Mosley had, perhaps, the best performance of his entire career in his last fight.

He looked very good against Cotto, winning that fight in my estimation over a tough style for him. Before that, he looked really good against Collazo, who nearly upset undefeated prospect Andre Berto this past year.

PBF could win the bout via first round knockout and it won't make your ludicrous statement even remotely true.



You:


alright...well put your avy where your mouth is on the 38 year old who is still the same as he has always been...:confusedshrug:

Me:


Why on earth would I do that when I think PBF will win and I'm a big fan of his? :oldlol:

You are really going out on a limb by picking Floyd.

Once again, the outcome of that fight will not verify anything that you said. It will just verify that Floyd is an amazing fighter.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=165479&page=5


In the last few years, every fighter that Floyd has gone against has ended the fight looking very confused and afraid to throw punches because of his counters.

SSM did not get tired from throwing punches in the second round. That is just a ridiculous assertion. Even if he is going over-the-hill, poor conditioning wouldn't really show until the second half of the fight, normally down the stretch.

Mosley wasn't throwing punches because he was too tired to lift his arms. He stopped throwing punches because Floyd had completely controlled the distance, was confusing SSM with his movement, and he was getting countered by multiple shots every time he let his hands go.

Mosley was confused... Not tired. It was blatantly obvious.

[RedBlackAttack]

I didn't listen to anything before the fight. All I heard during the fight was how great Mayweather is, how he doesn't have a scratch on him, how he could easily stop Mosley with a couple of punches if he wanted to, how Mayweather can do whatever he wants, how Mayweather is a perfect boxer, blah blah blah.

They were commenting on the fight and Mayweather was dominating Mosley. What were they supposed to talk about?


We'll see. And, if you mean "ANYONE", then I'd like to see him do what Mayorga is about do in 2 weeks...

Ricardo Mayorga? What is he doing?

[Jackass18]

He's facing Din Thomas on May 15th in an MMA fight.

[Dasher]

Mayorga is dabbling in MMA. His backhand slap nearly KOed his opponent at the presser.

[RedBlackAttack]

He's facing Din Thomas on May 15th in an MMA fight.
Why should he make the jump into MMA? He would get annihilated, just as any MMA fighter who stepped into a boxing ring would get embarrassed by Floyd.

[Jackass18]

That's why. I want to see him step out of his comfort zone and get annihilated, but nobody in boxing would be able to do that. Who do you think in boxing has a chance at beating him?

LOL, his backhand barely grazed his nose, but somehow it nearly KO'd him?

[RedBlackAttack]

That's why. I want to see him step out of his comfort zone and get annihilated, but nobody in boxing would be able to do that. Who do you think in boxing has a chance at beating him?


Are you talking bout Floyd or what boxer may be able to step into MMA and win there? I think that Paul Williams could potentially give Floyd some problems, just because he has a funky style and you never know how those unique skills will match up.

My gut tells me that Floyd would probably be able to make Williams swing and miss more than not and strife him with counters, but you never know.

Sergio Martinez is another guy in the light middleweight/middleweight divisions that may make for a great fight (but it would never happen because Martinez doesn't have the name or drawing power).

But, both of those guys are at least one weight class above Mayweather and he has already moved up from 130 to 147 in his career (fought DLH at 154, also).

As far as welterweight is considered? I would say, right now, Pacquiao is the best matchup for Floyd, but I stand by the idea that the fight wouldn't be all that close.

As far as the boxer who would have the best chance in transitioning to MMA, probably Kermit Cintron. He is an excellent athlete and has a background in wrestling. There was talk about him facing Sean Sherk a few years ago but, from what I remember, Dana White wouldn't allow it.

[Jackass18]

Yeah, I was talking about boxing. I'd like to see someone humble Mayweather, but I don't think anyone will. Maybe Pacman, but will that fight happen?

I vaguely remember the Kermit Citron thing, but I would find it odd to not allow him, but to then later sign Toney.

[YAWN]

Outside of the second round Mosley sucked, and it wasn't all PBFs doing. The dude was breathing heavy in his corner from the 3rd round on. Not to mention the silly wanting to touch gloves every ****ing 20 seconds. What the **** was that bullshit? Looked like he basically trained hard enough to just make it through the fight and score a big payday.

RBA, floyd is good, but i think you grossly overrate him.

[~primetime~]

Yep...


Me:





You:



Me:



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=165479&page=5


In the last few years, every fighter that Floyd has gone against has ended the fight looking very confused and afraid to throw punches because of his counters.

SSM did not get tired from throwing punches in the second round. That is just a ridiculous assertion. Even if he is going over-the-hill, poor conditioning wouldn't really show until the second half of the fight, normally down the stretch.

Mosley wasn't throwing punches because he was too tired to lift his arms. He stopped throwing punches because Floyd had completely controlled the distance, was confusing SSM with his movement, and he was getting countered by multiple shots every time he let his hands go.

Mosley was confused... Not tired. It was blatantly obvious.
that entire convo looks like me saying that Sugar is past his prime and washed up and you repeatedly telling me "you are talking out of your ass"...lol

but Sugar IS past his prime...he IS washed up...and he might be done LITERALLY...smh

whatever...I guess anytime you and any other poster wants to disagree with me you can just continue to pull out the old "talking out your ass" card...psshh...lame, old, and outdated response...

[RedBlackAttack]

Outside of the second round Mosley sucked, and it wasn't all PBFs doing. The dude was breathing heavy in his corner from the 3rd round on. Not to mention the silly wanting to touch gloves every ****ing 20 seconds. What the **** was that bullshit? Looked like he basically trained hard enough to just make it through the fight and score a big payday.

RBA, floyd is good, but i think you grossly overrate him.
Mosley came to win. That is without question. Here is a man that had arguably the greatest win of his entire, illustrious career just last year. He is the universally recognized welterweight champion (even though that belt was not on the line tonight).

Yet, I'm supposed to believe that he came out of the gates looking excellent and even buckled Floyd at one point, but then got old suddenly and in the third round no less?

All I know is that, after every Mayweather fight, there are loads of excuses as to why the win wasn't a great one. Whether it was Floyd weight two pounds more than Marquez at the weigh-in nullify an excellent performance or DLH blowing the fight by not throwing his jab, it always seems to be about what the other guy did or how much of an advantage there was for Floyd rather than praising what was an excellent performance against one of the best welterweights in the world.

Floyd makes people look bad. He has been making a career out of it.

[~primetime~]

Another thing I noticed with the Pac/Clottey and PBF/Mosely fights when asked of your prediction...

I think Pac/PBF will win but it wouldn't shock me if Clotty/Suger wins...

^^^ you put yourself in a no lose situation...no matter what happens you look correct


ME:

"PBF is going to F*CK SUGAR UP!"

ME:

Pac is going to wreck Clottey's face!"



I put my e-balls on the line...while you tell me I am talking out of my ass and that Shane is in his prime..

[RedBlackAttack]

that entire convo looks like me saying that Sugar is past his prime and washed up and you repeatedly telling me "you are talking out of your ass"...lol
I said you were talking out of your ass because you were using SSM's recent performances as a reason for him being 'washed up' and the fact of the matter is, Mosley has been one of, if not the top welterweight in the world for the last several years.

So, you were talking out of your ass. It has nothing to do with a prediction about what would happen in the fight. It has to do with the facts and they weren't behind you on that one.

Shane had been great recently.


but Sugar IS past his prime...he IS washed up...and he might be done LITERALLY...smh
Pure conjecture. You cannot gauge whether or not a guy is done or not based on his getting schooled by such a great technician. The perplexed look on Mosley's face from rounds 3-12 is one that you will see over-and-over again if you pay close attention to people that get in the ring with Mayweather.


whatever...I guess anytime you and any other poster wants to disagree with me you can just continue to pull out the old "talking out your ass" card...psshh...lame, old, and outdated response...

I said you were talking out of your ass because you were. A Top 3 welterweight in the world IS NOT a guy who is washed up.

[~primetime~]

Mosley came to win. That is without question. Here is a man that had arguably the greatest win of his entire, illustrious career just last year. He is the universally recognized welterweight champion (even though that belt was not on the line tonight).

Yet, I'm supposed to believe that he came out of the gates looking excellent and even buckled Floyd at one point, but then got old suddenly and in the third round no less?

All I know is that, after every Mayweather fight, there are loads of excuses as to why the win wasn't a great one. Whether it was Floyd weight two pounds more than Marquez at the weigh-in nullify an excellent performance or DLH blowing the fight by not throwing his jab, it always seems to be about what the other guy did or how much of an advantage there was for Floyd rather than praising what was an excellent performance against one of the best welterweights in the world.

Floyd makes people look bad. He has been making a career out of it.

YES!...he is old and lost his stamina

shit in the 10th round PBF looked the same as he did round 1...Shane looked like he was completely used up and wasted...no breath, no energy..."OLD"

[~primetime~]

I said you were talking out of your ass because you were using SSM's recent performances as a reason for him being 'washed up' and the fact of the matter is, Mosley has been one of, if not the top welterweight in the world for the last several years.

So, you were talking out of your ass. It has nothing to do with a prediction about what would happen in the fight. It has to do with the facts and they weren't behind you on that one.

Shane had been great recently.


Pure conjecture. You cannot gauge whether or not a guy is done or not based on his getting schooled by such a great technician. The perplexed look on Mosley's face from rounds 3-12 is one that you will see over-and-over again if you pay close attention to people that get in the ring with Mayweather.



I said you were talking out of your ass because you were. A Top 3 welterweight in the world IS NOT a guy who is washed up.
BS, I have seen all his recent past fights AND ALL 5 LOSES!!!

he was CLEARLY past his prime walking into the fight tonight...

you can tell me I am talking out of my ass all you f*ckin want, but when it comes down to it, I was 100% right!

[RedBlackAttack]

Another thing I noticed with the Pac/Clottey and PBF/Mosely fights when asked of your prediction...

I think Pac/PBF will win but it wouldn't shock me if Clotty/Suger wins...

^^^ you put yourself in a no lose situation...no matter what happens you look correct

I was just giving my honest opinion. I don't feel like I need to prove anything by making a bold prediction prior to every fight. I've done it before and have been completely wrong.

Clottey and Shane were both worthy opponents and I was very interested to see how Pacquiao and Floyd dealt with them. The point I was trying to make was that these weren't a couple of patsies that they were in warm-up mode with. These are real, accomplished fighters.

It really didn't have anything to do with making a prediction.




ME:

"PBF is going to F*CK SUGAR UP!"

ME:

Pac is going to wreck Clottey's face!"



I put my e-balls on the line...while you tell me I am talking out of my ass and that Shane is in his prime..

I never said that Shane was in his physical prime. Not once.

[~primetime~]

a f*ckin blind man could see that Shane is washed up...

yet our resident boxing expert can't?

okay...whatever

will just chalk this up to you being right on your reputation I guess...lol

[RedBlackAttack]

BS, I have seen all his recent past fights AND ALL 5 LOSES!!!

he was CLEARLY past his prime walking into the fight tonight...

you can tell me I am talking out of my ass all you f*ckin want, but when it comes down to it, I was 100% right!
I'd like to see you breakdown the fight and tell me EXACTLY (not things like 'he didn't throw any punches for the last eight rounds' or 'he was tired') what you saw that indicated a clearly washed up fighter (which is different, btw, from saying that someone isn't in their prime).

What did you see Shane doing tonight that he hadn't done in his previous bouts? What was different?

[~primetime~]

Clottey and Shane were both worthy opponents and I was very interested to see how Pacquiao and Floyd dealt with them. The point I was trying to make was that these weren't a couple of patsies that they were in warm-up mode with. These are real, accomplished fighters.

Shane is a "has been" and Clottey is a "never was"...

we can all see both these fights were just put in place to suck out more money from the public before the "REAL" main event takes place...

[~primetime~]

I'd like to see you breakdown the fight and tell me EXACTLY (not things like 'he didn't throw any punches for the last eight rounds' or 'he was tired') what you saw that indicated a clearly washed up fighter (which is different, btw, from saying that someone isn't in their prime).

What did you see Shane doing tonight that he hadn't done in his previous bouts? What was different?
how about not being able to f*ckin lift a finger after he blew his load in round 2...:confusedshrug:

Shane himself probably fully understood by round 8 that he was going to lose, and there isn't a DAMN THING he could do about it...

because he is old...and old people get tired faster than young people do...lol

[Round Robin]

Nice. What was the mood of the crowd as the fight progressed? Did they seem happy with the action? What was the mood afterward?

You can't always get a good read on that from watching it on television.


It was pretty lively...Different than the Pacquiao-Cotto fight, which was full of crazy Filipino and Puerto Rican fans...this time it was just a ton of crazy fans split down the middle...the whole celebrity aura gave it a different feel

Crowd seemd to get a little out of the fight in the late rounds but for the most part they were into it...They went crazy when Shane tagged Floyd in the second and loved seeing Floyd return the favor in rounds 7 and 8...

Afterwards I went to the media room, and it filled up with all kinds of people...mosley spoke to the media and gave Floyd his due while Floyd said he is gonna keep fighting but that he doesn't 'need' boxing...

[RedBlackAttack]

how about not being able to f*ckin lift a finger after he blew his load in round 2...:confusedshrug:

Shane himself probably fully understood by round 8 that he was going to lose, and there isn't a DAMN THING he could do about it...

because he is old...and old people get tired faster than young people do...lol
Old people get tired three rounds into a fight after looking excellent for the first two? Old people can 'barely lift a finger' even though they are barely throwing any punches for the last nine rounds due to a fear of being countered?

I knew this was going to happen, which is why I challenged you on it when the fight was announced. I had a pretty strong feeling that Floyd was going to step his game up in a bigtime fight against a legit opponent and the immediate response would be that Shane is old, even though he hasn't looked the least bit washed up in his prior fight(s).

Not even the mainstream media, which despises Floyd Mayweather Jr. and talked only about his coming in two pounds over the limit against Marquez are calling Shane washed up... Because you can't make that judgment about someone based on how they look against Floyd. You just can't do it.

When SSM starts looking average against average fighters, I will concede that he is past his prime. Until that happens, SSM cannot be deemed washed up.

[~primetime~]

Old people get tired three rounds into a fight after looking excellent for the first two? Old people can 'barely lift a finger' even though they are barely throwing any punches for the last nine rounds due to a fear of being countered?
YES!


I knew this was going to happen, which is why I challenged you on it when the fight was announced. I had a pretty strong feeling that Floyd was going to step his game up in a bigtime fight against a legit opponent and the immediate response would be that Shane is old, even though he hasn't looked the least bit washed up in his prior fight(s).

Not even the mainstream media, which despises Floyd Mayweather Jr. and talked only about his coming in two pounds over the limit against Marquez are calling Shane washed up... Because you can't make that judgment about someone based on how they look against Floyd. You just can't do it.

When SSM starts looking average against average fighters, I will concede that he is past his prime. Until that happens, Floyd cannot be deemed washed up.
the first thing they f*ckin asked him after the fight was "is this the last time we are going to see you in the ring?


__________________________


Shane had enough left in him to look good for a 2-3 rounds...

after that his age showed...

PERIOD

[RedBlackAttack]

PERIOD
You and I are clearly not going anywhere with this COMMA so I will bid you adieu PERIOD

[IcanzIIravor]

YES!...he is old and lost his stamina

shit in the 10th round PBF looked the same as he did round 1...Shane looked like he was completely used up and wasted...no breath, no energy..."OLD"

That points to training not age. We've seen young fighters gas out.

[iamgine]

The result is to be expected. 39 years old, haven't fought in over a year. Once again logic prevails.

Lets go Pacman vs Money!

[Gundress]

Crazy night for me and had a great party with my family and friends. After tonight I no longer wish to see Shane Mosley fight again. The man should retire. He's had a great career and is headed to the Hall of Fame. He's almost 40 and is not the fighter he once was. Wow wasn't expecting such a great fight

Big respect to Mayweather thought Mosley might of had him in the 2nd but came back and dominated

[GOBB]

1. Floyd haters lost money last night and those who didnt bet are shut up
2. Pacman just needs to agree to testing and a fight is on, the scared of needle cry is balloney.
3. No one can see Floyd. I'm convinced he could beat Paul Williams.

[Dasher]

1. Floyd haters lost money last night and those who didnt bet are shut up
2. Pacman just needs to agree to testing and a fight is on, the scared of needle cry is balloney.
3. No one can see Floyd. I'm convinced he could beat Paul Williams.I would have been left butt naked had Floyd lost. I put my paycheck up to 4 different people. I wish I had a house like thajumpa. I would be like f*ck a mortgage right now.

[L.Kizzle]

Shane would have damaged Floyd, but Floyd held on to his arm after that super punch.

Oh well, good fight.

[GOBB]

Shane would have damaged Floyd, but Floyd held on to his arm after that super punch.

Oh well, good fight.

:wtf:

Smoking early I see.

[L.Kizzle]

:wtf:

Smoking early I see.
Smoking is unhealthy.

[GOBB]

Smoking is unhealthy.

So was that post

[L.Kizzle]

So was that post
Smart defense though. If he could have got his hand loose, he would have kept on swinging and might have wobbled him even more.

Oh well, good fight.

[Younggrease]

Mosley came to win. That is without question. Here is a man that had arguably the greatest win of his entire, illustrious career just last year. He is the universally recognized welterweight champion (even though that belt was not on the line tonight).

Yet, I'm supposed to believe that he came out of the gates looking excellent and even buckled Floyd at one point, but then got old suddenly and in the third round no less?

All I know is that, after every Mayweather fight, there are loads of excuses as to why the win wasn't a great one. Whether it was Floyd weight two pounds more than Marquez at the weigh-in nullify an excellent performance or DLH blowing the fight by not throwing his jab, it always seems to be about what the other guy did or how much of an advantage there was for Floyd rather than praising what was an excellent performance against one of the best welterweights in the world.

Floyd makes people look bad. He has been making a career out of it.

exactly

[plowking]

For me, as long as the drug test is not done close to the match, I'll agree because if they'll get blood from me close to the match, it will be a disadvantage for me because I'm smaller and he's big

- Pacquiao

Oh man, he's talking out his ass. He's scared as f*ck to go in the match clean against Mayweather. :oldlol:

[BALLin01]

I read the Pacquiao camp would be willing to compromise at 17 days before the fight.

[L.Kizzle]

So where does this fight put these two greats on the All-Time ranking.

[BALLin01]

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=27424

[The_Yearning]

Pac making asians look scared all around n!ggga take the mother effin drug test and get it on. And their talking about Floyda trying to avoid all he wants is a drug test...both players taking it where's the disadvantage for anyone?

[GOBB]

Smart defense though. If he could have got his hand loose, he would have kept on swinging and might have wobbled him even more.

Oh well, good fight.

Maybe but unless Shane is knocking Floyd out where he doesnt get up? Eh. Floyds been wobbled before.

[plowking]

I read the Pacquiao camp would be willing to compromise at 17 days before the fight.

So basically he's still being a biatch about it and is scared to fight without his PED's?

[Reef]

The thing with Pac and Roach is that it's more about pride in my opinion than fear. They've faced big tough guys like Cotto and Clottey or guys they had trouble with in Morales and Marquez. They just don't want Floyd calling the shots.

I can see both sides' arguments. For the sake of boxing Pac should take the tests, but at the same time he's never failed one and is doing exactly what the commission asks of him.

The good thing about Pac, if he fights Floyd, is that he's a volume puncher and even if he's getting countered will still let his hands go (we saw that in the Marquez fights) unlike Shane. He can also take the punches (he ate Cotto's and Clottey's punches with no problems). His speed's probably on par with Floyd's (much faster than Shane showed). Also, Freddie will come up with a great game plan as usual.

Having said all that, we've all seen him have problems with counter punchers and Floyd's the best in that regard, so I'll take Floyd by UD.

RBA,
Paul Williams already said he'd have no problem moving down to 147 again. Berto would get destroyed easily in my opinion. What do you think about someone like Devon Alexander or Bradley moving up (although they probably won't bring in enough money) from junior WW? If Floyd doesn't move up to junior MW, there's pretty much nobody else who can give him some competition besides all those guys.

[DeuceWallaces]

Pac ate Clottey's punches? Really? I don't remember Clottey punching him at all.

[Younggrease]

The thing with Pac and Roach is that it's more about pride in my opinion than fear. They've faced big tough guys like Cotto and Clottey or guys they had trouble with in Morales and Marquez. They just don't want Floyd calling the shots.

I can see both sides' arguments. For the sake of boxing Pac should take the tests, but at the same time he's never failed one and is doing exactly what the commission asks of him.

The good thing about Pac, if he fights Floyd, is that he's a volume puncher and even if he's getting countered will still let his hands go (we saw that in the Marquez fights) unlike Shane. He can also take the punches (he ate Cotto's and Clottey's punches with no problems). His speed's probably on par with Floyd's (much faster than Shane showed). Also, Freddie will come up with a great game plan as usual.
Having said all that, we've all seen him have problems with counter punchers and Floyd's the best in that regard, so I'll take Floyd by UD.

RBA,
Paul Williams already said he'd have no problem moving down to 147 again. Berto would get destroyed easily in my opinion. What do you think about someone like Devon Alexander or Bradley moving up (although they probably won't bring in enough money) from junior WW? If Floyd doesn't move up to junior MW, there's pretty much nobody else who can give him some competition besides all those guys.

Does Pac have the skills to execute any type of gameplan on a technician such as Floyd. As soon as plan A doesnt work will he be able to have plan B. Lets not pretend like Pac is a sound boxer and has the sweet science mastered, he isnt close. Just look at what happened to Mosely, that wasnt age, that was a fighter that had no idea what to do. It was a fighter who measured up, and he had no idea how to counteract it....I dont even think he knew what happened. Same thing will happen to Pac, he will get measured up and then get beat by UD. Then people will make up some other excuse...

[Tito Beasley]

The thing with Pac and Roach is that it's more about pride in my opinion than fear....They just don't want Floyd calling the shots.



Plus if Pacqiaou goes along with it and he loses, whether he actually ever used PED's or not, that is the conclusion that the court of public opinion will draw. They'll say he lost because the drug testing prevented him from using drugs and that was the only reason he had been so good etc. etc.

[Tito Beasley]

Pac ate Clottey's punches? Really? I don't remember Clottey punching him at all.


He got some good shots in early, they were just too few and far between.

[Reef]

Does Pac have the skills to execute any type of gameplan on a technician such as Floyd. As soon as plan A doesnt work will he be able to have plan B. Lets not pretend like Pac is a sound boxer and has the sweet science mastered, he isnt close. Just look at what happened to Mosely, that wasnt age, that was a fighter that had no idea what to do. It was a fighter who measured up, and he had no idea how to counteract it....I dont even think he knew what happened. Same thing will happen to Pac, he will get measured up and then get beat by UD. Then people will make up some other excuse...

I'm not saying Pac is as skilled as Floyd, although I think he's probably more physically gifted. Those physical gifts can help to make up for his lack of boxing ability (which is still very good; just not on Floyd's level). You can't deny that Roach is arguably one of the best strategists in the game. I'm sure Roach will prepare as best as he can be prepared.

Mosley is a different fighter than Pac. You can't compare them. Mosley's not a volume puncher like Pac who can throw 100 punches/round. Pac loves to brawl. He'll get a lot by Floyd but I don't think he'll hesitate to exchange. I agree with you that Floyd will probably take it by UD. We can only hope it's at least competitive this time.

[Younggrease]

I'm not saying Pac is as skilled as Floyd, although I think he's probably more physically gifted. Those physical gifts can help to make up for his lack of boxing ability (which is still very good; just not on Floyd's level). You can't deny that Roach is arguably one of the best strategists in the game. I'm sure Roach will prepare as best as he can be prepared.

Mosley is a different fighter than Pac. You can't compare them. Mosley's not a volume puncher like Pac who can throw 100 punches/round. Pac loves to brawl. He'll get a lot by Floyd but I don't think he'll hesitate to exchange. I agree with you that Floyd will probably take it by UD. We can only hope it's at least competitive this time.

this is the only thing I dont agree on...I dont think he is a very technically sound fighter and Money is gonna expose him and it might get ugly.

[Reef]

Pac ate Clottey's punches? Really? I don't remember Clottey punching him at all.

He didn't throw a lot, but Pac would leave himself open at times to try to bait Clottey into exchanging so that Pac could KO him. Clottey hit him flush with some big uppercuts and they had no effect on Pac. If you look at their faces after the fight, Pac actually looked worse than Clottey.

[Reef]

this is the only thing I dont agree on...I dont think he is a very technically sound fighter and Money is gonna expose him and it might get ugly.

On defense for sure, he could use a lot of work. He gets hit a lot. On offense, I think he's a little underrated. It always looks like he's just brawling because he doesn't have the prettiest style but he does have a jab and great hooks. He didn't even have a right hand until Freddie developed it. He follows Freddie's game plan always like using the volume punching to the body because of Clottey's high guard and his reluctance to engage.

[Younggrease]

On defense for sure, he could use a lot of work. He gets hit a lot. On offense, I think he's a little underrated. It always looks like he's just brawling because he doesn't have the prettiest style but he does have a jab and great hooks. He didn't even have a right hand until Freddie developed it. He follows Freddie's game plan always like using the volume punching to the body because of Clottey's high guard and his reluctance to engage.

I cant respect a fighter who had to add a right hand? really that is the guy that gonna be able to put together the gameplan to beat one of the greatest technians ever.. And even on offense, he doesnt know how to put them together and set up stuff like Money. He i just punching and fighting, Floyd is punching and is operating 5 steps ahead of a guy like Pac. Unless Pac can knock him out, Floyd is gonna figure him out and Pac doesnt have the tools to adjust because he isnt well versed in the sweet science.

Again this is just my opinion, he could very well catch Mayweather but I doubt it.

[Reef]

I cant respect a fighter who had to add a right hand? really that is the guy that gonna be able to put together the gameplan to beat one of the greatest technians ever.. And even on offense, he doesnt know how to put them together and set up stuff like Money. He i just punching and fighting, Floyd is punching and is operating 5 steps ahead of a guy like Pac. Unless Pac can knock him out, Floyd is gonna figure him out and Pac doesnt have the tools to adjust because he isnt well versed in the sweet science.

Again this is just my opinion, he could very well catch Mayweather but I doubt it.

I totally agree with you. I think Floyd's skill will overcome Pac's speed, power, motor. I just think Pac can make it more competitive than Shane did. He'll always have the puncher's chance as well.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

boxing is dead. fight bored me to death, did anyone even draw blood? Can we get another Mike Tyson that would knock you out within 2 rounds, these lightweights middleweights my past girlfriends are bigger than.

[Reef]

boxing is dead. fight bored me to death, did anyone even draw blood? Can we get another Mike Tyson that would knock you out within 2 rounds, these lightweights middleweights my past girlfriends are bigger than.

Ya you already said that before. If you don't like it, why post in this thread? Why watch the fight? You obviously can't appreciate the skill involved. Go talk on the NBA forum about your boyfriend Orange Juice Mayonnaise.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

Ya you already said that before. If you don't like it, why post in this thread? Why watch the fight? You obviously can't appreciate the skill involved. Go talk on the NBA forum about your boyfriend Orange Juice Mayonnaise.

Your trying to say that was a classic? :wtf:

[Reef]

Your trying to say that was a classic? :wtf:

No, but you have to appreciate Floyd's skill (the defense, the counter-punching, the speed) to make a future hall of famer look like a scrub. It was total domination of an elite fighter.

[GOBB]

No, but you have to appreciate Floyd's skill (the defense, the counter-punching, the speed) to make a future hall of famer look like a scrub. It was total domination of an elite fighter.

Shane isnt elite.

[Younggrease]

Shane isnt elite.

can someone find the thread saying this was gonna be one of Floyd's toughest fights ever. Some said it might be tough as a Manny Pac fight, it funny how opinions change.

[Reef]

Shane isnt elite.

He's definitely considered an elite WW. He's just below Floyd and Pac. He destroyed Margarito who nobody stopped before, lost a very close fight to Cotto (who many thought he beat). I think he would've beat Berto if they fought. Even before yesterday's fight, ESPN had Mosley ranked as the top WW.

[L.Kizzle]

Shane isnt elite.
Why not, cause he lost to the Floyd?

[DonDadda59]

Can we stop with the 'boxing is dead' shit already? How many times are people going to say that before/after megafights? Obviously it isn't what it was in its heyday but you can say the same for the NBA, MLB, NHL, and even NASCAR now, are those sports dead? It ebbs and flows like everything else in sports. And the last 3 years or so, there's been a ton of big PPV fights and other great matches that might not get the attention of De La Hoya, Pacquiao, Mayweather... but real fans know what's up.

There's a ton of extremely talented fighters coming up (except HW, which is huge for the sport's mainstream popularity) that are waiting for their turn to hit the big time. Both Pac and Mayweather were virtual unknowns to the mainstream before their matches with the Golden Boy/24-7, etc. Once they're gone, which is soon, it'll be time for the new blood to make their mark. I see guys like Andre Ward, Tim Bradley, Amir Khan, Paul Williams is on the cusp of stardom, and others stepping up and carrying boxing like Manny and Floyd are now.

[~primetime~]

can someone find the thread saying this was gonna be one of Floyd's toughest fights ever. Some said it might be tough as a Manny Pac fight, it funny how opinions change.
pretty sure that was just RBA...

me and RBA just dug that thread up and argued about this 2 pages back...lol

RBA was under the impression that Shane was still at the top of his game and just got done with the greatest preformance of his entire career against Margarito...

others might have agreed with him in that thread...didn't look

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

No, but you have to appreciate Floyd's skill (the defense, the counter-punching, the speed) to make a future hall of famer look like a scrub. It was total domination of an elite fighter.

i appreciate his speed, i don't appreciate his lack of power behind any of his punches. This is why boxing is slowly dying in the public/media eye not just mine. only pacman, floyd and a handful literally of boxers can even draw ratings. We, as the casual fan, want to see power, blood, excitement, knockouts for us to be interested. Something that happened during the 60's with heavyweights like George Foreman. then in the 80's and early 90's with Prime Mike Tyson that took boxing in the public's eye to a whole different level. Until another fighter comes around like that boxing will slowly keep dying, and MMA/UFC will keep rising like it has been and the overall ratings/numbers prove that.


what would you rate that fight on a scale of 1-10 with 5 being average.

[Younggrease]

Why not, cause he lost to the Floyd?


Floyd beats people's ass so bad that the only way people can rationalize it is the must all the sudden be scrubs...

I can see it now, Floyd beats manny UD(10-2)...Manny was washed up, he just didnt look right, he was just missing something, Floyd didnt see the real Manny....

[Reef]

Floyd beats people's ass so bad that the only way people can rationalize it is the must all the sudden be scrubs...

I can see it now, Floyd beats manny UD(10-2)...Manny was washed up, he just didnt look right, he was just missing something, Floyd didnt see the real Manny....

Or "Now we see the real Manny without his PEDs".

[Reef]

i appreciate his speed, i don't appreciate his lack of power behind any of his punches. This is why boxing is slowly dying in the public/media eye not just mine. only pacman, floyd and a handful literally of boxers can even draw ratings. We, as the casual fan, want to see power, blood, excitement, knockouts for us to be interested. Something that happened during the 60's with heavyweights like George Foreman. then in the 80's and early 90's with Prime Mike Tyson that took boxing in the public's eye to a whole different level. Until another fighter comes around like that boxing will slowly keep dying, and MMA/UFC will keep rising like it has been and the overall ratings/numbers prove that.


what would you rate that fight on a scale of 1-10 with 5 being average.

I thought Floyd actually showed a lot more power than he has in the past. He was hurting Shane. The thing is Shane has a great chin. He's never lost by TKO, so it shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone that it was going to go the distance.

In MMA, so many fights end up being lay and pray with all these wrestlers. Don't get me wrong. I'm an MMA fan. If you look at the PPV numbers, no MMA event has ever come close to the number of buys that the top boxing cards bring in.