98% of all Black People hate Duke Basketball

[Tarik One]

Late night in the break room 30+ people (of color) were emphatically rooting against Duke, even motherfuqqas who don't even follow sports. In fact, every year during tournament time I get the same anti-Duke sentiment from fellow comrades. Remarks like: "Fuq Duke" or "As long as Duke doesn't win it, i'm satisfied", regardless of who the other team is. I remember when they lost to UConn in the Final Four a few years back and it was like the OJ verdict all over again.

[v-unit]

Scheyer is unstoppable

[HisAirness3]

Duke is basically the best white players in North Carolina and UNC is basiaclly the best black college players in North Carolina. I thought it was pretty obvious and when a Black guy goes to Duke, he's either light-skinned black or he's a very highly educated person.

It's sad though, I'm sure most people who can play basketball wherever. They only choose UNC because of Michael Jordan and nothing more. Not the education, not anything else other than MJ went there so I'll go there too. What an impact. :pimp:

[Jailblazers7]

Scheyer is unstoppable

NVM you got the edit in before I could flame you lol.

[Jailblazers7]

Duke is basically the best white players in North Carolina and UNC is basiaclly the best black college players in North Carolina. I thought it was pretty obvious and when a Black guy goes to Duke, he's either light-skinned black or he's a very highly educated person.

It's sad though, I'm sure most people who can play basketball wherever. They only choose UNC because of Michael Jordan and nothing more. Not the education, not anything else other than MJ went there so I'll go there too. What an impact. :pimp:


Loul Deng is pretty light skinned now that I think about it.

[Black Joker]

Loul Deng is pretty light skinned now that I think about it.
psh. he's english he doesn't count :no:

kidding

[Apples]

Ugh...what? Duke has been my favorite team for years. They're really the only reason I watch College ball outside of the Tourney. Though I wish they produced better NBA players.

[PK3434]

black people dont hate Duke that much..where im from in UCONN country, i know a few black dudes that love duke for no good reason...kind of like how some people root for the cowboys or yankees just because they get alot of media coverage and have a rich history.

white hardcore college basketball fans of other programs hate duke the most.

[RealKnowledge]

Late night in the break room 30+ people (of color) were emphatically rooting against Duke, even motherfuqqas who don't even follow sports. In fact, every year during tournament time I get the same anti-Duke sentiment from fellow comrades. Remarks like: "Fuq Duke" or "As long as Duke doesn't win it, i'm satisfied", regardless of who the other team is. I remember when they lost to UConn in the Final Four a few years back and it was like the OJ verdict all over again.
Its true. Me and my homies and fam all despise duke. We dont follow college basketball seriously. But man they just pick up white boys and white wash light skin black guys and they always get it of easy by the comission and giving them a easy road to final 4. How can you not hate them

[PistolPete]

I don't get the bias for Duke. Their last national title was 9 years ago and they have been a shell of what they used to be. How can you still hold animosity for a team for no reason?? They're being coached by one of the best basketball minds ever.

If you hate that, then you're dumb.

[GOBB]

Everyone hates Duke. Not just blacks. Players are wack juice, corny.Only Duke player I didnt diss was Grant Hill and Luol Deng. Everyone else? *thumbs down*

[2LeTTeRS]

Down here in the Carolinas you have a lot of black Duke fans. My moms a big Duke fan and one of my co-workers and best friends was the biggest Duke fan I've ever known.....sucks that he passed away last year and wasn't able to see this. My bad for the off topic portion, but again there are a lot of black Duke fans here.

[v-unit]

Reddick was the man. North Carolina = best black college players? Yeah they got really far in the tournament...NIT tournament that is, hah.

And my heart was racing to see if anybody would catch that edit, I got off lucky though. Too quick for ya jailblazers

[Marv_Albert]

I hate their game and I'm white, all they do is shoot the ball boring as hell to watch...their center stands at the free throw line and dishes to weak scheyer and singler so they can shoot...DRIVE IT TO THE LANE!

[kentatm]

so basically the OP is saying 98% of black people are racist

[Jailblazers7]

Everyone hates Duke. Not just blacks. Players are wack juice, corny.Only Duke player I didnt diss was Grant Hill and Luol Deng. Everyone else? *thumbs down*

Jason Williams? He was incedible in college I loved his game. Too bad he had that motorcycle accident.

I hate all players that scream and yell and slap the floor who are just shooters and marginal defenders. When a player from Duke is a legit baller then he gets my respect but if its just a stereotypical Dukie I can't stand them.

[Freshprince619]

Why would any black person like them?? They go out their way to recruit white basketball players and not just the best talent available. And they always pick up 1 or 2 white wash black guys just to not look like a blatantly racist team You dont find that racist?

[mlh1981]

Even though Duke won, the aftermath has been strange. Lots of chatter on the talk radio waves about the shot by Heyward that almost fell, how feisty Butler was, how Duke is one of the worst championship teams of all time, etc.

Coach K is getting lots of love today, but this seems like a rather subdued championship, if you ask me. It was more like Duke felt relieved that they won, than the usual joy you get from a championship winning team.

[OneMoreSucka]

I like Duke because I'm white.

[Legend of Josh]

Al Sharpton is a Duke fan.

:lol

[Legend of Josh]

Even though Duke won, the aftermath has been strange. Lots of chatter on the talk radio waves about the shot by Heyward that almost fell, how feisty Butler was, how Duke is one of the worst championship teams of all time, etc.

Coach K is getting lots of love today, but this seems like a rather subdued championship, if you ask me. It was more like Duke felt relieved that they won, than the usual joy you get from a championship winning team.

I'm not a follower of college bball, but it's my understanding NCAA basketball this season was generally overall sub-par compared to most seasons.

I'm not a Duke fan either... but a title is a title.

[Knicks101]

I like Duke because I'm white.

:eek: Since when?

[OneMoreSucka]

:eek: Since when?
Since I picked them to win it all once the bracket came out :banana: :banana: :banana:

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6530/sloan3.png



Or were you saying since when was I black? In which case, a couple weeks ago.

[kentatm]

Why would any black person like them?? They go out their way to recruit white basketball players and not just the best talent available. And they always pick up 1 or 2 white wash black guys just to not look like a blatantly racist team You dont find that racist?


:roll: :roll: :roll:

http://brotherpeacemaker.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/whos-the-racist2.jpg

[Dolphin]

Why would any black person like them?? They go out their way to recruit white basketball players and not just the best talent available. And they always pick up 1 or 2 white wash black guys just to not look like a blatantly racist team You dont find that racist?

Well you don't necessarily want to just go after the best talent available either...then you get Ca's Memphis teams, which were an embarassment to college athletics.

[Freshprince619]

Well you don't necessarily want to just go after the best talent available either...then you get Ca's Memphis teams, which were an embarassment to college athletics.
How were they an embarrassment? Because they were to good?
Thats not the point tho. They LOOK for elite white basketball players year after year. You don't find anything wrong with that? Come one son. Duke is a racist program

[Younggrease]

Jason Williams? He was incedible in college I loved his game. Too bad he had that motorcycle accident.

I hate all players that scream and yell and slap the floor who are just shooters and marginal defenders. When a player from Duke is a legit baller then he gets my respect but if its just a stereotypical Dukie I can't stand them.

I dont understand this...I cant stand duke myself but this stuff is all good ball. why would you only smack the floor is your a good defende? that doesnt make sense, you do it to get yourself hyped up and low to the ground and let your team know its time to dig in.

I just dont like Duke and the players they recruit. I also think Coach K is very overrated as a coach. He plays with a squad of all americans every year, he should be doing this and more. The best coaches these days arent coaching the marquee teams. Coach is K is a good coach, but he is far from some x and o god like some try to make him.

I also find it a little weird how they end up with so many white players every year compared to other top schools. Its not like Duke is the only school that is elite atheltically and in a power conference with decent academics. UVA, Standford, UNC etc. I also find it odd how there are so many top prospects who duke doesnt even really recruit.

Some scouts have said Coach K purposefully puts restraints on his players so they stay 4 years...


Well you don't necessarily want to just go after the best talent available either...then you get Ca's Memphis teams, which were an embarassment to college athletics.

ok so he couldnt go after the Patrick Pattersons, Evan Turners, Josh Duncan, Brandon Knight, Scotty Hopsins etc... I understand he wants guys that will stay 4 years, but non-white guys stay 4 years too. But I guess this is what the alums have come to expect and why not give it to them...but im not gonna root for it.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-universities-rankings

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-universities-rankings/page+2

It is pretty simple. Duke for undergrad, is a top 10 academy school in the country. It is very hard to get into Duke. Grades,SATs, extracurriculars, essays the whole thing. The university had made it to a point to only recruit student athletes with high GPAs and SATs schools. Most of the elite black athletes simply don't care much and/or aren't motivated enough for school, especially the ones who were NBA bound like teenagers. A guy like Derrick Rose and Brandon Jennings come to mind right away. I mean Derrick Rose couldn't even get the minimum at Memphis for a scholarship let a lone Duke.

What some schools do like Unversity of Virginia, University of Michigan, UCLA, USC, UNC which are ranked in the top 30 academic undergrad schools, and are all very hard to get into, with a low acceptance rate . They will make an exception for student athletes, they want the best athlete, which usually means that they are black. They will lower the students set the bar at a University of Memphis standard and probably even lower than that. To compensate for their low test scoring student athletes, they raise the standards no an almost Duke level academically for the normal student body, that is why these schools are such great academic schools AND sport school.

It is just a game for the big wigs at the university and some schools know how to play it.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

And i dont want to see a bunch of white boys shoot jumpers all day and run 32 out of the 35 seconds on the shot clock everytime down, passing with no purpose around the perimeter.

That's the problem with the college game way too long of a shot clock, it should be 28 second shot clock imo.

[RaininThrees]

Duke is basically the best white players in North Carolina and UNC is basiaclly the best black college players in North Carolina. I thought it was pretty obvious and when a Black guy goes to Duke, he's either light-skinned black or he's a very highly educated person.

It's sad though, I'm sure most people who can play basketball wherever. They only choose UNC because of Michael Jordan and nothing more. Not the education, not anything else other than MJ went there so I'll go there too. What an impact. :pimp:

The bolded implies a whole lot.

[Younggrease]

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-universities-rankings

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-universities-rankings/page+2

It is pretty simple. Duke for undergrad, is a top 10 academy school in the country. It is very hard to get into Duke. Grades,SATs, extracurriculars, essays the whole thing. The university had made it to a point to only recruit student athletes with high GPAs and SATs schools. Most of the elite black athletes simply don't care much and/or aren't motivated enough for school, especially the ones who were NBA bound like teenagers. A guy like Derrick Rose and Brandon Jennings come to mind right away. I mean Derrick Rose couldn't even get the minimum at Memphis for a scholarship let a lone Duke.
What some schools do like Unversity of Virginia, University of Michigan, UCLA, USC, UNC which are ranked in the top 30 academic undergrad schools, and are all very hard to get into, with a low acceptance rate . They will make an exception for student athletes, they want the best athlete, which usually means that they are black. They will lower the students set the bar at a University of Memphis standard and probably even lower than that. To compensate for their low test scoring student athletes, they raise the standards no an almost Duke level academically for the normal student body, that is why these schools are such great academic schools AND sport school.

It is just a game for the big wigs at the university and some schools know how to play it.

Really, my boy played football and had like a 3.0 1020 SAT. They make the same exceptions for athletes.

Brandon Knight has a 4.0+ and is an All American...Duke has recruited him hard

You mention derrick rose, what about Oden, Durant, John Wall, Brandon Knight, Evan Turner, and all the other kids who both doing well academically and atheltically and did the same in high school.

[Dolphin]

How were they an embarrassment? Because they were to good?
Thats not the point tho. They LOOK for elite white basketball players year after year. You don't find anything wrong with that? Come one son. Duke is a racist program

Do you understand the requirements that have to be met to be accepted into a school are different for each school? Not saying there aren't smart black ballers, but it's not a coincidence that the higher ranked academic schools have more white and what you would call "white washed black players."

Most of the stars aren't smart enough to go to Duke or Stanford...and the stars who are, usually would still rather go to a school like Arizona and such. Not saying they are bad schools, but they aren't Duke. Is Cornell racist too. If not, is it fair to say black kids are biased against going to highly ranked educational schools such as Cornell? How many of these star high school players actually want to go to Duke? You think if they did and they met the academic requirements that Coach K wouldn't welcome them?

And Memphis was an embarassment because Cal recruits players as though they were mercs. Sure, many coaches do, but he's on another level. It doesn't even matter that the team was full of mental handicaps. And no, it's not because their teams looked like thugs....they were legit mental handicaps. Great way to represent your school....oh wait, Cal was representing himself...he's kinda a merc too.

[Younggrease]

Do you understand the requirements that have to be met to be accepted into a school are different for each school? Not saying there aren't smart black ballers, but it's not a coincidence that the higher ranked academic schools have more white and what you would call "white washed black players."

Most of the stars aren't smart enough to go to Duke or Stanford...and the stars who are, usually would still rather go to a school like Arizona and such. Not saying they are bad schools, but they aren't Duke. Is Cornell racist too. If not, is it fair to say black kids are biased against going to highly ranked educational schools such as Cornell? How many of these star high school players actually want to go to Duke? You think if they did and they met the academic requirements that Coach K wouldn't welcome them?
And Memphis was an embarassment because Cal recruits players as though they were mercs. Sure, many coaches do, but he's on another level. It doesn't even matter that the team was full of mental handicaps. And no, it's not because their teams looked like thugs....they were legit mental handicaps. Great way to represent your school....oh wait, Cal was representing himself...he's kinda a merc too.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about...

Go look up the Duke players GPA/SAT score and compare it to the Duke student body...tell me what you find, them apologize for your ignorance

Brandon Knight is a better student than prob anyone in the entire Duke program, he is an All American- Duke has not recruited him....hmm that shots down that theory

[kentatm]

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about...

Go look up the Duke players GPA/SAT score and compare it to the Duke student body...tell me what you find, them apologize for your ignorance

what exactly is he saying thats wrong?

you think the athletes at state schools have to get the same grades as those normal student bodies? hell no.

for example, Byron Hanspard at Texas Tech rocked a 0.0 GPA and wasn't booted.

sorry but it IS harder for athletes to get into Duke.

[Freshprince619]

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about...

Go look up the Duke players GPA/SAT score and compare it to the Duke student body...tell me what you find, them apologize for your ignorance

Brandon Knight is a better student than prob anyone in the entire Duke program, he is an All American- Duke has not recruited him....hmm that shots down that theory
My Man

[Dolphin]

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about...

Go look up the Duke players GPA/SAT score and compare it to the Duke student body...tell me what you find, them apologize for your ignorance

Brandon Knight is a better student than prob anyone in the entire Duke program, he is an All American- Duke has not recruited him....hmm that shots down that theory

Ummmm....as I said if they met the requirements, Coach K would welcome them. Many of the great players coming out of highschool couldn't make it into Duke with reduced standards or not.

Ummmm....providing one player as evidence is grade 5 level research buddy. You think teams recruit every great player out there? Do you know what factors in to a coach selecting who he wants to recruit (of course your prob think in Duke's case it's just race lol)?

Don't know if I should waste the time on you. You have a clear history of bias against white people. ie. your overzealous hate for Steve Nash among others.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about...

Go look up the Duke players GPA/SAT score and compare it to the Duke student body...tell me what you find, them apologize for your ignorance

Brandon Knight is a better student than prob anyone in the entire Duke program, he is an All American- Duke has not recruited him....hmm that shots down that theory


Brandon Knight is a great player watched him before with my own eyes. Not Derrick Rose, or OJ Mayo good as a high school senior too much of a volume shooter, but he isnt far behind a lethal scorer.

I havent read any articles , but if I would guess the reason Coach K hasn't recruited him is because Coach K just like Bob Knight wants nothing to do one and done players, and Knight is clearly a one and done player and could be the #1 pick in next years draft.

[Younggrease]

what exactly is he saying thats wrong?

you think the athletes at state schools have to get the same grades as those normal student bodies? hell no.

for example, Byron Hanspard at Texas Tech rocked a 0.0 GPA and wasn't booted.

sorry but it IS harder for athletes to get into Duke.

but its harder for both black and white kids. and no its not really that hard you just have to be average.

Duke makes the same allowances as other schools just maybe to a lesser degree. I grew up with Aaron Whitehurst and he played at penn with 3.3 1100-1200 SAT...AT AN IVY

And if you really want to make an argument, even though it may be harder to get into Duke, its still should be comparable easier for a black kid to get in due to AA, so they still arent applying with the equal footing.

I have known guy that played at Duke for football(Jeremy Edwards) and he was no where near Dukes medians, actually not even rutgers medians...but he got in...Stop romanticizing Duke

[Dolphin]

Brandon Knight is a great player watched him before with my own eyes. Not Derrick Rose, or OJ Mayo good as a high school senior too much of a volume shooter, but he isnt far behind a lethal scorer.

I havent read any articles , but if I would guess the reason Coach K hasn't recruited him is because Coach K just like Bob Knight wants nothing to do one and done players, and Knight is clearly a one and done player and could be the #1 pick in next years draft.

No, all lies! Duke hates black people. Younggrease said so himself.

[Younggrease]

Ummmm....as I said if they met the requirements, Coach K would welcome them. Many of the great players coming out of highschool couldn't make it into Duke with reduced standards or not.

Ummmm....providing one player as evidence is grade 5 level research buddy. You think teams recruit every great player out there? Do you know what factors in to a coach selecting who he wants to recruit (of course your prob think in Duke's case it's just race lol)?

Don't know if I should waste the time on you. You have a clear history of bias against white people. ie. your overzealous hate for Steve Nash among others.

i dont hate Steve Nash...you obviously think legit arguements are hate.

You are pretty much saying there are no qualified black players that are good enough to get into Duke and that is why white players are prevelant. Thats a joke and you have nothing to back that up.

[Dolphin]

i dont hate Steve Nash...you obviously think legit arguements are hate.

You are pretty much saying there are no qualified black players that are good enough to get into Duke and that is why white players are prevelant. Thats a joke and you have nothing to back that up.

I never said that. I said the ones that get in are your so called "white washed" players...and that most of the smart black players would still rather go to a school like Arizona for a variety of reasons.

Ya, so I can't back up what you said I said....cause I never said it. lol

[Younggrease]

I never said that. I said the ones that get in are your so called "white washed" players...and that most of the smart black players would still rather go to a school like Arizona for a variety of reasons.

Ya, so I can't back up what you said I said....cause I never said it. lol

Most smart black player would rather go to Arizona - again baseless and not in touch with reality.

funny how you would use a racist term then go around and call me racist. Funny how black people who speak well are white washed...What a circular reason, by that reasoning smart "black people" dont exist, because as soon as you thought to be inteligent you are white washed....hmm

[Dolphin]

Most smart black player would rather go to Arizona - again baseless and not in touch with reality.

funny how you would use a racist term then go around and call me racist. Funny how black people who speak well are white washed...What a circular reason, by that reasoning smart "black people" dont exist, because as soon as you thought to be inteligent you are white washed....hmm

I'm mocking Freshprince's use of the term "white washed" lol. Silly kid.

Try following along.

[kentatm]

And if you really want to make an argument, even though it may be harder to get into Duke, its still should be comparable easier for a black kid to get in due to AA, so they still arent applying with the equal footing.

I have known guy that played at Duke for football(Jeremy Edwards) and he was no where near Dukes medians, actually not even rutgers medians...but he got in...Stop romanticizing Duke

I'm not romanticizing anything. They recruit for their whites and blacks with the exact same standards. They have to be able to get certain grades AND they have to fit coach K's system. There is nothing racist about that. If you want to be mad about something, be pissed that for whatever reasons, mostly socioeconomic I would venture, good black athletes tend to do more poorly grade wise than whites. Add to that there are far more white people in the country and there you go. A very small pool of blacks qualify for what they want and its not b/c of their skin tone.

[Younggrease]

I'm not romanticizing anything. They recruit for their whites and blacks with the exact same standards. They have to be able to get certain grades AND they have to fit coach K's system. There is nothing racist about that. If you want to be mad about something, be pissed that for whatever reasons, mostly socioeconomic I would venture, good black athletes tend to do more poorly grade wise than whites. Add to that there are far more white people in the country and there you go. A very small pool of blacks qualify for what they want and its not b/c of their skin tone.

really prove it..everything you said is baseless because no one has any gpa/sat listings from Dukes bball players. Its all hearsay...

And I would venture of the pool of players in ACC it is about 80/20 percent black...your telling me of that 80 percent none of them that are better than their Duke Counterparts(in talent and fit) have identical GPAs to the Duke Players.

Maybe its different growing up with a lot of the players but I feel as if your romanticizing the academic achievements of Dukes players for no reason then the fact they go to Duke.


I’ve noticed several Hotline readers have questioned/challenged my comment that Stanford has tougher admissions than Duke in a post about Johnny Dawkins’ slow start in recruiting.

Admissions is always a scalding-hot-button topic, so let me address this before it metastasizes.

First, I was referring to the entry standards for men’s basketball players. It was not a comment on admissions for the students as whole or even student athletes. Both schools are world class.

It was about men’s basketball and men’s basketball only.

It was also accurate.


During the Cardinal’s top-10 run in the late-1990s and early-200s, it was fashionable to call Stanford the “Duke of the West.” Fashionable and utterly erroneous.

(Back then, when the subject came up periodically, I called it the “myth of Duke admissions.”)

Sure, some of Duke’s recruits were, and are, first-rate students. But the Blue Devils have signed many players over the years that Stanford could not touch.

In my mind, that’s one reason Duke has been so successful in signing McDonald’s All-Americans: It’s a world-class private institution with the admissions flexibility of, say, a state school.

I won’t get into names of the players Stanford couldn’t touch, because it’s not fair to them and because I’ve got the data:

According to figures released by the NCAA for players who were in college in the late-90s thru mid-00s — the latest figures available (trust me: it hasn’t changed significantly) — here are the admissions figures for Duke and Stanford men’s basketball recruits:

Duke average GPA: 3.13
Stanford average GPA: 3.46

Duke average SAT: 968
Stanford average SAT: 1123



OMG, I could only hope to be as smart as the Duke BBALL players...Must people at good schools score higher than that in 8th grade.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2008/11/05/stanford-vs-duke-basketball-the-difference-in-admissions-standards/

Romanticize much...I guess good bball players with 3.0 and 1000 SATs dont exist.

[Swaggin916]

Ya know on of the things I like about Duke is that everybody who plays there at least makes an effort to be educated. Even if the tests are dumbed down or what not, you are going to a great school with a reputation of educating it's students. In particular, I like to see black people educate themselves because it's not necessarily accepted in the black community... nor is being articulate... so I appreciate it when I see it.

[kentatm]

really prove it..everything you said is baseless because no one has any gpa/sat listings from Dukes bball players. Its all hearsay...

And I would venture of the pool of players in ACC it is about 80/20 percent black...your telling me of that 80 percent none of them that are better than their Duke Counterparts(in talent and fit) have identical GPAs to the Duke Players.

Maybe its different growing up with a lot of the players but I feel as if your romanticizing the academic achievements of Dukes players for no reason then the fact they go to Duke.



OMG, I could only hope to be as smart as the Duke BBALL players...Must people at good schools score higher than that in 8th grade.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2008/11/05/stanford-vs-duke-basketball-the-difference-in-admissions-standards/

Romanticize much...I guess good bball players with 3.0 and 1000 SATs dont exist.


prove what? That blacks, who are disproportionally poorer in this country and any other poor people be it white, yellow, brown whatever tend to do worse in school on average b/c they tend to live in crappy areas with crappy schools?

Sorry dude but this is known fact. As athletes tend to do worse in school than normal students its only logical to assume there are less black athletes who do well academically in comparison to whites b/c the pool so much is smaller.

You also completely ignored the half of the kids needing to fit in Coach K's system. Most amazing athletes are not system type guys. They are able to carry their teams and high school coaches in their zeal to win usually don't force fundamentals on their very best players as much b/c they don't want to anger the players and parents and risk their jobs. This causes many of the best athletes to have holier than thou attitudes that tend to not mesh with system based teams. It also robs them of crucial fundamental teachings that would be needed to play in a strict system in the first place. Its just how it is.

I'm not romanticizing Duke. I don't even like the school. I went to high school in CT and knew a few people who went there and know what they had to have to get in. It was quite a bit tougher than most of the other schools.

[Younggrease]

prove what? That blacks, who are disproportionally poorer in this country and any other poor people be it white, yellow, brown whatever tend to do worse in school on average b/c they tend to live in crappy areas with crappy schools?

Sorry dude but this is known fact. As athletes tend to do worse in school than normal students its only logical to assume there are less black athletes who do well academically in comparison to whites b/c the pool so much is smaller.
You also completely ignored the half of the kids needing to fit in Coach K's system. Most amazing athletes are not system type guys. They are able to carry their teams and high school coaches in their zeal to win usually don't force fundamentals on their very best players as much b/c they don't want to anger the players and parents and risk their jobs. This causes many of the best athletes to have holier than thou attitudes that tend to not mesh with system based teams. It also robs them of crucial fundamental teachings that would be needed to play in a strict system in the first place. Its just how it is.

I'm not romanticizing Duke. I don't even like the school. I went to high school in CT and knew a few people who went there and know what they had to have to get in. It was quite a bit tougher than most of the other schools.

So many blanket statements it would take way too long to sort out.


Duke players arent even scoring above average on the SAT...im sure there are black players that are talented/fit and score above that.

thats a 968 average...meaning for that the low is probably a good deal lower...and lets keep in mind that 800(i know there is a sliding scale) is the ground point for admission into college bball.

[GOBB]

Jason Williams? He was incedible in college I loved his game. Too bad he had that motorcycle accident.

I hate all players that scream and yell and slap the floor who are just shooters and marginal defenders. When a player from Duke is a legit baller then he gets my respect but if its just a stereotypical Dukie I can't stand them.

Yeah he was sick. I gotta give him props tho I've slighted him just because he was a Duke player. Cant say I loved his game but I acknowledge he was beasting. I dont know why I liked Grant Hill or Luol Deng. Guess to me they just didnt stand out as tools. Duke has too many tools over the years or lame players.

No one irked me more than Greg Paulus. He slaps the floor and I literally lose it. :banghead:

I hated Duke since they beat UNLV. Think thats where this stems from. Since then never liked them and found ways even if unwarranted to dislike them.

[Tarik One]

Duke vs UNLV was the ultimate media driven good vs evil matchup. Duke representing everything that's good about basketball and human decency whereas the Runnin Rebels were labeled as a bunch of cocky urbanites who lacked fundamentals and zero respect for the game. Mostly untrue though

[JohnnySic]

I've hated Duke for almost 20 years, and I'm white. Bunch of over-priveledged, preppy douchbags. And not just the players, also the student body, with their whack cheering and slogans. They act real cocky but they're just a bunch of nerds. How can anyone but a Duke alumni root for them? :confusedshrug:

[TennesseeFan]

Duke is basically the best white players in North Carolina and UNC is basiaclly the best black college players in North Carolina. I thought it was pretty obvious and when a Black guy goes to Duke, he's either light-skinned black or he's a very highly educated person.

It's sad though, I'm sure most people who can play basketball wherever. They only choose UNC because of Roy Williams and nothing more. Not the education, not anything else other than Roy coaches there so I'll go there too. What an impact. :pimp:

fixed.

[Da Ballahollic]

Im in that 98%

[PistolPete]

This whole race argument is retarded. There are whiter programs out there other than Duke. Duke has 3 and possibly soon 4 commits coming in for next season and guess what.....they're all black!

[PK3434]

Yeah he was sick. I gotta give him props tho I've slighted him just because he was a Duke player. Cant say I loved his game but I acknowledge he was beasting. I dont know why I liked Grant Hill or Luol Deng. Guess to me they just didnt stand out as tools. Duke has too many tools over the years or lame players.

No one irked me more than Greg Paulus. He slaps the floor and I literally lose it. :banghead:

I hated Duke since they beat UNLV. Think thats where this stems from. Since then never liked them and found ways even if unwarranted to dislike them.

yeah, paulus was the worst. he really had a horrible career at duke and kept getting worse and worse throughout his four years....Don't slap the floor if you cant stay in front of your man!! even last year i found myself watching syracuse football on tv and smiling when he threw an INT.

[2LeTTeRS]

Everyone hates Duke. Not just blacks. Players are wack juice, corny.Only Duke player I didnt diss was Grant Hill and Luol Deng. Everyone else? *thumbs down*

No love for Corey Maggette? Elton Brand? Carlos Boozer? Jason Williams? My favorite Duke player was William Avery, I thought he was going to be special. I agree though I don't like the typical Duke guys (i.e. Laettner, Reddick and Dunleavy).

[Tito Beasley]

No love for Corey Maggette? Elton Brand? Carlos Boozer? Jason Williams? My favorite Duke player was William Avery, I thought he was going to be special. I agree though I don't like the typical Duke guys (i.e. Laettner, Reddick and Dunleavy).

What about Shane Battier? Is he black enough to be likable or too white to be likable?

[Jailblazers7]

I dont understand this...I cant stand duke myself but this stuff is all good ball. why would you only smack the floor is your a good defende? that doesnt make sense, you do it to get yourself hyped up and low to the ground and let your team know its time to dig in.

I just dont like Duke and the players they recruit. I also think Coach K is very overrated as a coach. He plays with a squad of all americans every year, he should be doing this and more. The best coaches these days arent coaching the marquee teams. Coach is K is a good coach, but he is far from some x and o god like some try to make him.

I also find it a little weird how they end up with so many white players every year compared to other top schools. Its not like Duke is the only school that is elite atheltically and in a power conference with decent academics. UVA, Standford, UNC etc. I also find it odd how there are so many top prospects who duke doesnt even really recruit.

Some scouts have said Coach K purposefully puts restraints on his players so they stay 4 years...



ok so he couldnt go after the Patrick Pattersons, Evan Turners, Josh Duncan, Brandon Knight, Scotty Hopsins etc... I understand he wants guys that will stay 4 years, but non-white guys stay 4 years too. But I guess this is what the alums have come to expect and why not give it to them...but im not gonna root for it.


It's not good ball its just a stupid lame tradition that makes you look like a complete tool. Why would you slap the floor if you aren't a good defender? Greg Paulus *slaps floor* his man proceeds to blow by him for a layup.

[2LeTTeRS]

What about Shane Battier? Is he black enough to be likable or too white to be likable?

Nah didn't like Battier as a college player. Now that he's a pro I like him a lot more, but not during those days, I was a Tarheel fan though so I was used to the super athletic players. Except for Trajan Langdon all the Duke guys I liked were the freak athletes.

[Quizno]

Yeah he was sick. I gotta give him props tho I've slighted him just because he was a Duke player. Cant say I loved his game but I acknowledge he was beasting. I dont know why I liked Grant Hill or Luol Deng. Guess to me they just didnt stand out as tools. Duke has too many tools over the years or lame players.

No one irked me more than Greg Paulus. He slaps the floor and I literally lose it. :banghead:

I hated Duke since they beat UNLV. Think thats where this stems from. Since then never liked them and found ways even if unwarranted to dislike them.
why UNLV? any particular reason?

just asking 'cuz i'm gonna be going there for school in the fall

[BrentISballin]

Here in NC I know plenty of black people that like duke...

[jody]

"98% of all Black People hate Duke Basketball"

from my perpective it's the complete opposite. most white americans hate duke with a passion.

for people who follow NCAA basketball, it's rare to find any middle ground when the topic is duke. you're either a duke fan or you have a fairly negative opinion on them.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

Here in NC I know plenty of black people that like duke...

are they educated ones?

[bdreason]

Duke drafts white players because they are more likely to stay for 3-4 years i.e. they are less talented (they don't want 1-and-doners). Also, I can't imagine its easy to get top black recruits who can even qualify to attend Duke.


I remember a few years back when Stanford started to lower their academic requirements to get more black athletes. It worked, and both their Football and Basketball teams became nationally ranked. Now, they raised their academic requirements again and their Football and Basketball teams are back to mediocre (at best).

[Legend of Josh]

are they educated ones?

More like home state fans who want to pull for someone other than UNC.

[C-A-T-S]

I know plenty of Black Duke fans!

[Dasher]

I think people hate Dickie V and ESPN more than they hate Duke. I was at work during the title game, and after final score the nearly unanimous refrain from my coworkers was, "I won't be watching ESPN for the next week." A Duke championship means that Dickie will have to be muted because he will be more obnoxious than usual.

[Tarik One]

The hate seems to have simmered down a little, but it's still there. I had Duke winning the whole thing from the start and brothers were shaking their heads and licking their chops to bet against me. Time to collect.

[Godzuki]

i agree with thread title. and those 98% are also big Georgetown fans.

[Im so nba'd out]

The hate seems to have simmered down a little, but it's still there. I had Duke winning the whole thing from the start and brothers were shaking their heads and licking their chops to bet against me. Time to collect.
i would burn ya white azz you lucky im not one of the people.i wish i would pay a bet to a white dude....HA!

[#number6ix#]

Why would black people hate duke now when their whole starting lineup is black

[Patrick Chewing]

Why would black people hate duke now when their whole starting lineup is black


This hate stems from the late 80's and early 90's when Duke was predominantly white and was actually whooping up on predominantly black teams. But what they were too stupid to understand was the brilliance of Coach K. He was able to teach fundamentals to lesser athletes and win championships. Only around the turn of the century (2000) did Coach K start to focus on recruiting the best player possible in my opinion.

[Ass Dan]

N-words still be frontin:oldlol:

[KevinNYC]

Y'all didn't get to see Johnny Dawkins did you?

http://www.dcbasketball.com/images/lasalle/004a.jpg

[tomtucker]

why would you hate them ?:confusedshrug:

[AkronAngel]

This is probably just a regional thing. I see white and black dudes that like Duke, and white and black dudes that hate Duke.

[KevinNYC]

Duke vs UNLV was the ultimate media driven good vs evil matchup. Duke representing everything that's good about basketball and human decency whereas the Runnin Rebels were labeled as a bunch of cocky urbanites who lacked fundamentals and zero respect for the game. Mostly untrue though

That was not the problem people had with UNLV. The problem people had with UNLV was it was thought to be a dirty program that even more than most made a joke of the idea of student athletes.

UNLV recruited Lloyd "Sweet pea" Daniels who couldn't read. Somehow Daniels made the Dean's List at the junior college Tarkanian set him up with.

Let me repeat that, Lloyd Daniels could not read. Somehow he made the Dean's List. What courses did he take? No-look passes 101?

In order to qualify for UNLV admission standards, Daniels, still a "junior" in high school, spent a term at Mount San Antonio College—Mount SAC—a junior college in California. He made the dean's list despite his continued illiteracy and a $200 a day coke habit. A month after returning to Vegas, he was arrested while buying a twenty-dollar rock of crack in a police sting operation. The bust was shown on national TV, with Daniels telling the cameraman, "You're going to end my career." Daniels was right, but his fall put his coach's career in jeopardy as well. A series of articles about UNLV's recruiting practices appeared shortly after in New York Newsday, leading to the investigations that eventually caused Tarkanian to resign.

The black guys in this photo play for UNLV. The white guy is Richard Perry who helped guide Sweet Pea to UNLV. He was also convicted of shaving points on college basketball games. This the same point shaving scandal that ESPN just did a 30 for 30 on, he was working with Henry Hill (http://www.nytimes.com/1981/02/12/sports/point-fixes-detailed-by-informant.html) from Goodfellas fame.
https://rushthecourt.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/unlv-hot-tub.jpg


The article identifies Hill as a 37-year-old former convict and onetime resident of Rockville Centre, L.I., who became a Government informer to win immunity for himself. He says that his partners in the point-shaving scheme were James Burke, Peter Vario and Richard Perry, all previously identified as connected to the scheme, and that together they earned about a quarter of a million dollars. Paid Players $2,500 a Game

''I'm the Boston College basketball fixer,'' Hill says in his opening statement, and later adds: ''I paid three Boston College basketball players during the 1978-79 season to shave points - not to blow games -in nine games between Dec. 16, 1978, and March 1, 1979. The players were Rick Kuhn and Jim Sweeney, who were in it from the beginning, and Ernie Cobb, the star of the team, who was with us the last five games. It cost me $2,500 per player per game - except when they screwed up and I didn't give them anything or cut them back. As a complimentary service, I bet money for the players when they so requested.

[KevinNYC]

Sweet pea was described as Magic Johnson with Larry Bird's shot.

[magic chiongson]

http://www.truthaboutit.net/pictures/2010-11/christian-laettner-90201.jpg

[christian1923]

God bless Coack K Da Goat

[tomtucker]

God bless Coack K Da Goat
I approve