View Full Version : Kevin Durant can't bench 185?!
Sammobile
04-08-2010, 11:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LulSsTbflGU
This has to be the worst bunch of Fail in the history of sports, wow
:roll:
For_Three
04-08-2010, 12:08 PM
Yeah Kevin is very very very weak in the upper body. Like scary weak. BUT he is still very young, and will hopefully fill out more. I think he needs to get a little bigger. I mean he is probably top 5 weakest players in the league, but he is still one of the best lol.
joyner82
04-08-2010, 12:08 PM
Cowherd should be fired for this. The absurdity...just rofl
"Antonio McDyess written all over him"
:roll:
players with long wingspans tend to have weak bench
OneMoreSucka
04-08-2010, 12:11 PM
Because bench press actually is worth something?
If any exercise matters, it's squatting.
In which case......he can't squat 185 either :oldlol:
Poodle
04-08-2010, 12:11 PM
look how frail his arms look and he has one of them frail lookiing concave chests. i believe it. still tho who needs to bench press much to play ball well?
Cangri
04-08-2010, 12:14 PM
This is predraft right?
If it is, I bet Durant can easily bench press more than that right now.
1_BAD_TIGER
04-08-2010, 12:16 PM
Well apparently he has strong abs, ask Melo's neck.
Cangri
04-08-2010, 12:17 PM
I love how he kisses Greg's ass, but look @ what happened, Who's the one that became a star?
enayes
04-08-2010, 12:18 PM
This is predraft right?
If it is, I bet Durant can easily bench press more than that right now.
Correct, I'm sure he can do it now. And if not, who cares? Kid is a beast.
Kellogs4toniee
04-08-2010, 12:24 PM
O rite, i'm sure not having a strong bench will affect that massive contract extension he'll be given this summer.
*sarcasm*
2LeTTeRS
04-08-2010, 12:27 PM
This is predraft right?
If it is, I bet Durant can easily bench press more than that right now.
Was about to say the exact same thing.
Fuhqueue
04-08-2010, 12:35 PM
And just look at how much it's hindered him! :oldlol:
Leading the league in both minutes played and scoring.
he maybe can't bench 185 but he can sure shoot the sh*t out of that 22 ounce ball
creepingdeath
04-08-2010, 12:51 PM
Well apparently he has strong abs, ask Melo's neck.
:roll:
You just made my day, dude... :applause:
LAClipsFan33
04-08-2010, 01:00 PM
I could bench that when I was 15. C'mon Son...get in the weight room Durant
Whats sad is Colin has been one of the biggest critics of Oden since he got injured and acts like he knew all along that Oden wasn't the right pick.
boozehound
04-08-2010, 01:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LulSsTbflGU
This has to be the worst bunch of Fail in the history of sports, wow
:roll:
wow, what are you, almost 3 years late on this one?
LAClipsFan33
04-08-2010, 01:15 PM
Whats sad is Colin has been one of the biggest critics of Oden since he got injured and acts like he knew all along that Oden wasn't the right pick.
Colin = Flip flopping clown
Only thing he's consistent with is riding on USC's bandwagon. GTF off my bandwagon Colin.
Sammobile
04-08-2010, 01:21 PM
wow, what are you, almost 3 years late on this one?
wow i think you're missing the point of the thread. He was going on an on about how Durant couldn't bench 185 and now he's one of the best in the NBA
:oldlol:
boozehound
04-08-2010, 01:22 PM
wow i think you're missing the point of the thread. He was going on an on about how Durant couldn't bench 185 and now he's one of the best in the NBA
:oldlol:
meh, didnt listen to the clip. Cant stand cowherd.
Sammobile
04-08-2010, 01:26 PM
meh, didnt listen to the clip.
i can see that
lilgodfather1
04-08-2010, 01:46 PM
What a weakling.
inclinerator
04-08-2010, 01:51 PM
i heard one of the announcers say he still cant bench press 185
davidenk0
04-08-2010, 01:55 PM
He can't bench 185 but he's one of the top 5 players in the league.
LAClipsFan33
04-08-2010, 02:00 PM
He can't bench 185 but he's one of the top 5 players in the league.
Well its not like defenders can touch perimeter players anymore so being strong probably isn't that important anymore.
Stephen_H
04-08-2010, 02:13 PM
I would care about this if Durant was a low-post player...
Skills and talent >>> Raw strength.
Where did this silly idea come from that Durant needs to bulk up? Why add weight to a frame which obviously isn't meant to carry much? If Durant gets stronger, he will get slower and have less finesse. NOT a good idea.
PS Cowherd is a foolish tool.
lilgodfather1
04-08-2010, 02:18 PM
He can't bench 185 but he's one of the top 5 players in the league.
LeBron, Kobe, Wade, Paul, Howard, Melo so where is Durant in the top 5, I would say top 7.
maxwellcu
04-08-2010, 02:32 PM
I am sure that he can bench well over 185 now.
brandonislegend
04-08-2010, 02:47 PM
Durant > Melo,Paul(unhealthy) this year
King Lebron LBJ
04-08-2010, 03:28 PM
Good job Durant isn't strong, can you imagine how much tougher he would be if he was?
Meticode
04-08-2010, 03:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LulSsTbflGU
This has to be the worst bunch of Fail in the history of sports, wow
:roll:
1.) This was when he was drafted. A lot of people felt because of this he would have trouble in the NBA with strength issues.
2.) He's averaging almost 30 PPG, 8 RPG, 3 APG in his 3rd full season.
3.) Because of how successful he is, and taking a bum-**** team like OKC to the playoffs in the matter of 2 years I don't think no one gives a shit what he could bench over 2 years ago since he's pretty much been a success since the day he stepped on the court showing that Portland ****ed up on another draft.
Quizno
04-08-2010, 04:40 PM
And just look at how much it's hindered him! :oldlol:
Leading the league in both minutes played and scoring.
:no:
gerald wallace and stephen jackson are both playing more minutes than he is
creepingdeath
04-08-2010, 04:51 PM
I would care about this if Durant was a low-post player...
Skills and talent >>> Raw strength.
Where did this silly idea come from that Durant needs to bulk up? Why add weight to a frame which obviously isn't meant to carry much? If Durant gets stronger, he will get slower and have less finesse. NOT a good idea.
PS Cowherd is a foolish tool.
/This, obviously
CeoTypeDoe619
04-08-2010, 04:53 PM
"Danika Patrick can bench 185" :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
bdreason
04-08-2010, 04:57 PM
Who cares.
Bench press is the most overrated weight lift in the world.
Go Getter
04-08-2010, 04:58 PM
I would care about this if Durant was a low-post player...
Skills and talent >>> Raw strength.
Where did this silly idea come from that Durant needs to bulk up? Why add weight to a frame which obviously isn't meant to carry much? If Durant gets stronger, he will get slower and have less finesse. NOT a good idea.
Quality post.
Look how long his frame is and how close together his shoulders are. He is at a disadvantage before he even sits down at the bench as compared to a player built like a Kevin Willis [wide shoulders, short arms].
Oden bulked up in the shoulders and arms and his knees started giving him problems.....I don't think it's a coincidence.
O.J A 6'4Mamba
04-08-2010, 05:16 PM
This was 3 years ago. Give me a break. He was 18 or 19 years old oh well. I can put money on it he can bench that now. People need to realize the longer your arms are compared to your body the more difficult it is for you to bench or even lift alot since your arms muscles are so elongated.
Guys like Stephen Curry were made on for the bench press. Short Arms at his height or an inch below it. Durant arms are like 7 inches longer than his actually height 6'9.
inclinerator
04-08-2010, 05:26 PM
commentators says he cant bench press 185, id say ray allen would struggle with 185 too
ManlyStanley69
04-08-2010, 05:27 PM
Let's make a few things clear:
1. It is unmanly to not be able to bench press 185, no matter what your profession is.
2. However, I'm sure Durant can bench 185 now.
3. Rick Barnes should have been embarrassed about this more than Durant..Obviously, there was no required weight program at Texas if Durant spent time there from July to April and wasn't able to get up ONE FREAKIN REP of 185.
4. Obviously, Kevin Durant is a hard worker. With his advanced skill set there is no denying that..but still..185 should have been a warm-up weight for any 19 year old college athlete, no matter how long his arms are.
http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/Durant%201.png
5. nevertheless, its true that the bench press is overrated...One armed pull-ups are the manliest of manly excercises.
creepingdeath
04-08-2010, 05:32 PM
One armed pull-ups are the manliest of manly excercises.[/SIZE][/COLOR]
No. That would be the deadlift.
ManlyStanley69
04-08-2010, 05:34 PM
commentators says he cant bench press 185, id say ray allen would struggle with 185 too
I've seen Ray work out. I'm sure 185 is nothing to him. When i saw him do bench he was doing 135 to exhaustion, probably over 30-40 reps.
Juges8932
04-08-2010, 05:37 PM
Lol, yeah, I remember hearing about this prior to the draft. That is crazy weak. Obviously, not hindering his play (at least it doesn't look like it). I could do that when I was just turned 15. I have long arms for my height as well. Granted, I'm not 6'9 with a 7'2 wingspan or w.e it was he has lol.
ManlyStanley69
04-08-2010, 05:38 PM
No. That would be the deadlift.
Wrong...the deadlift is manly, but the one armed pull-up is much more manlier. anyone can do a deadlift set...not everyone can do even a single one armed pull-up.
O.J A 6'4Mamba
04-08-2010, 05:46 PM
Let's make a few things clear:
1. It is unmanly to not be able to bench press 185, no matter what your profession is.
2. However, I'm sure Durant can bench 185 now.
3. Rick Barnes should have been embarrassed about this more than Durant..Obviously, there was no required weight program at Texas if Durant spent time there from July to April and wasn't able to get up ONE FREAKIN REP of 185.
4. Obviously, Kevin Durant is a hard worker. With his advanced skill set there is no denying that..but still..185 should have been a warm-up weight for any 19 year old college athlete, no matter how long his arms are.
http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/Durant%201.png
5. nevertheless, its true that the bench press is overrated...One armed pull-ups are the manliest of manly excercises.
man his arms are hella long
LAClipsFan33
04-08-2010, 05:47 PM
I would also like to add that Desean Jackson...very successful WR for the Philadelphia Eagles is in the NFL and cannot lift 225 not even one time.
Bench strength isn't always everything.
A.M.G.
04-08-2010, 05:48 PM
Man, I could bench 185 when I was like 13. And I'm not even like built or anything. That can't be right, unless his absurdly long arms have something to do with it.
If you dont lift weights then bench pressing 185 isnt easy. People who can do it just assume it should be easy for everyone. You're wrong.
zabuza666
04-08-2010, 06:08 PM
$20 sais over half the posters in this thread can't bench 185
bagelred
04-08-2010, 06:13 PM
Why do people find it necessary that he bench any specific weight? Basketball is not based on brute strength, who cares.
Guys who are successful in basketball are the guys who are lanky, tall with long arms and legs. That usually means smaller torso and less chest strength.
It's baseball where you need alot of power in your chest. Swinging a bat to hit a 90 mph fastball takes alot of upper body strength.
Why do people set these rules in your heads that he has to bench anything? He's one of the best players in the world right now. It's obviously not affecting his ability. And actually, if he lifts too much, it could hurt his game.
04mzwach
04-08-2010, 06:28 PM
Corey Brewer benched 185lbs. 11 times in predraft.
D-Rose
04-08-2010, 06:31 PM
Good thing he's in the NBA not UFC
A.M.G.
04-08-2010, 06:32 PM
If you dont lift weights then bench pressing 185 isnt easy. People who can do it just assume it should be easy for everyone. You're wrong.
Are we saying he couldn't bench 185 one time though? That just sounds absurd. Not that it matters much if it's true, he's still a superstar millionaire, but it sounds absurd.
OG LeeTSkeeT
04-08-2010, 06:35 PM
Colin is the most annoying talk show host ever. after listening to that...
LAClipsFan33
04-08-2010, 06:54 PM
$20 sais over half the posters in this thread can't bench 185
Bet $100 I could do it 25 times
:cheers:
LA_Showtime
04-08-2010, 06:59 PM
you would think after watching kevin durant single-handedly destroy college basketball that you would throw out a meaningless stat about a type of weight lifting exercise that is overrated anyway. how much you can bench is more of a show-off type of thing then actually giving you a good idea on strength.
RealKnowledge
04-08-2010, 07:03 PM
$20 sais over half the posters in this thread can't bench 185
HALF? More like 90%
Are we saying he couldn't bench 185 one time though? That just sounds absurd. Not that it matters much if it's true, he's still a superstar millionaire, but it sounds absurd.
It doesnt sound absurd to me because I've played baseball, soccer, basketball and was a pretty good swimmer. I just never hit the weight room until sophmore in college and all I could throw up was 135. I just think people assume for Durant to have played bball the level he did? He had to participate in some type of weight and strength training. Not impossible to escape, avoid lifting especially if the sport you play isnt required nor does it have an effect on how you play.
Think about he...he could have gone 4yrs in HS without touching weights if at all. He only went to Texas for a year. And a year in terms of college bball season terms not the 12 months = year. Then you tell him get on bench and lift 185? Why should he be able to do it when he's never been exposed to lifting his entire life? :confusedshrug:
Maybe cause I can relate i just dont see it being a big deal.
O.J A 6'4Mamba
04-08-2010, 07:21 PM
to add to that the average vertical leap on ish is more than the NBA with about 35 inches. I'm not saying 185 lbs is a lot, especially for the average joe who's wingspan is almost identical to his height 90% of ISH.
So it is hard to grasp how much long arms affect your ability to bench. Take Tyreke Evans and Stephen Curry for example. Tyreke 6'5 220 lbs has a 6'11 winspan could only get 185lbs up 7 times. Steph 6'3 180lbs has a 6'3 winspan got 185lbs up 10 times. You mean to tell me Steph is stronger than Evans, only a moron would think that.
It is because he has normal sized arms. I am not saying all guys with long arms cant bench, but it affects it a lot. I mean as ripped as LeBron is i can guarentee you he isn't a heavy weighter when it comes to the bench, his arms are too long 7 ft and he is relatively flat chested.
Swaggin916
04-08-2010, 07:37 PM
If you dont lift weights then bench pressing 185 isnt easy. People who can do it just assume it should be easy for everyone. You're wrong.
This.
It was obvious the Durant probably hadn't touched a weight in his life. Add to that an unbelievably long wingspan.... He probably barely could have put up 135.
When I started lifting at 14... I could bench about 100 pounds, and I have a body built for it. By the time I was 19 I was benching 335...which is more than probably 99.9% of the population... but when I first started, I sucked. Yes I was only 14... so maybe I could have done 120 if I was 18... it wouldn't have changed that much.
If you don't lift weights, unless you weight like 300 pounds plus... you aren't putting up a rep of 185. I know most of these posters who claim they bench a lot are bullshitters... people would claim they could bench a lot but when they saw me throw on 2 45's on each side they wouldn't even get under the bar :lol
Marv_Albert
04-08-2010, 07:37 PM
He aint goin for the gold at weightlifting at the next olympics
Maniak
04-08-2010, 08:13 PM
http://www.biggerboat.net/images/Fred.gif
I bench 220
clayton
04-08-2010, 08:16 PM
Yet he is still stronger than many posters here including me. :roll:
lilgodfather1
04-08-2010, 08:19 PM
I bench between 360-375 depending on how I feel in a day. Good days don't happen often though, I usually work out 3 times a week. Sad that I can double Durants weights, and yet it is his job to be in better shape than me. I bet that a lot of other players can't even do 250, but I bet that most non PGs could do 225.
D-Rose
04-08-2010, 08:21 PM
I bench between 360-375 depending on how I feel in a day. Good days don't happen often though, I usually work out 3 times a week. Sad that I can double Durants weights, and yet it is his job to be in better shape than me. I bet that a lot of other players can't even do 250, but I bet that most non PGs could do 225.
Lifting more is not necessarily in "better shape".
Kevin Durant is in better athletic shape than anyone on this board could dream of.
I bench between 360-375 depending on how I feel in a day. Good days don't happen often though, I usually work out 3 times a week. Sad that I can double Durants weights, and yet it is his job to be in better shape than me. I bet that a lot of other players can't even do 250, but I bet that most non PGs could do 225.
What's your physique like?
Maniak
04-08-2010, 08:31 PM
What's your physique like?
Think of Yao Ming except without the height.
KelticForce1349
04-08-2010, 08:43 PM
Wow. This is pathetic. Terrible really.
I guess as a Bulls fan we could accept Durant on our team despite his weakness. We could give the Thunder Luol Deng, someone that can easily bench press 185. Well, that is my good deed offer for the day, take it now Thunder fans before I change my mind.
You really owe us a first round draft pick or something if you accept this offer.
maxwellcu
04-08-2010, 10:51 PM
I will echo the sentiment that unless you are genetically gifted or are very fat and have very short arms that you aren't benching 185 if you don't lift.
It's not a ton of weight but it's more than 95%+ of people are going to start at.
The average American male can't even necessarily put up 135. Going from 135 to 185 takes a decent amount of work.
I will echo the sentiment that unless you are genetically gifted or are very fat and have very short arms that you aren't benching 185 if you don't lift.
It's not a ton of weight but it's more than 95%+ of people are going to start at.
The average American male can't even necessarily put up 135. Going from 135 to 185 takes a decent amount of work.
This is very true. But the amount of fat people is growing so maybe they can, hence all the people in here claiming they can bench 185 when they've never worked out or something absurd like that.
effortwins
04-09-2010, 02:46 AM
I don't understand what this has to do with anything. He needs to bulk up, we all know that, but he is still raping shit out on the court though. Melo is an unfit player, and is chubbier than most elite NBA players, yet he still rapes shit too :confusedshrug: I'm sure this issue has already been brought up and he plans to start bulking up in the offseason, I don't think he needs people on ISH or people other than the Thunder staff to tell him what he should do, tell him how weak he is, tell him he needs to start lifting more. All in due time. For now, just chill...
Sammobile
04-09-2010, 09:35 AM
wow this thread when a whole different direction from what it was meant for :lol:
i remember i went from benching 130 or 140 to 185 in like only a month in freshman year in college. i never did weights in high school. did some here and there when the coach told us to go, but just f--ked around and got out of there. but i don't believe bench press means that much in basketball. doubt iverson could bench much.
Kombo
04-09-2010, 12:50 PM
Durant was 19 during that test... the same age as many high school seniors...
Very few high school football lineman are benching 185 let alone basketball players. Not to mention with Durant's arm length, it takes much more strength than the 5'8'' 200 lb guy that can bounce it off his chest half the way back up.
Knicksfever2010
04-09-2010, 12:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LulSsTbflGU
This has to be the worst bunch of Fail in the history of sports, wow
:roll:
Colin is a big blowhard elitist.
LAClipsFan33
04-09-2010, 02:27 PM
Very few high school football lineman are benching 185
LOL very untrue.
Very few aren't benching 185
I was on a team that went 0 - 10 and all of our lineman benched over 185
225 would be a better number. I was one of less than 10 players who could get 225 up, but about 80% of our team could get 185 up.
This was in 2000. Weight programs at high schools are more advanced now than back then.
chazzy
04-09-2010, 02:31 PM
Very few high school football lineman are benching 185 let alone basketball players.
What kind of weak HS did you go to? :oldlol:
LAClipsFan33
04-09-2010, 02:36 PM
What kind of weak HS did you go to? :oldlol:
:oldlol:
AznTacoLover
04-09-2010, 02:43 PM
Ha, even if he can't bench press that much he is still killing it.
Knicksfever2010
04-09-2010, 03:05 PM
LOL very untrue.
Very few aren't benching 185
I was on a team that went 0 - 10 and all of our lineman benched over 185
225 would be a better number. I was one of less than 10 players who could get 225 up, but about 80% of our team could get 185 up.
This was in 2000. Weight programs at high schools are more advanced now than back then.
cool, so i take it you're good with weightlifting? I dont get it, I'm a big guy, 6'2, 230, strong, but I cant bench press ore than 100 lbs... anyway to build up strength?
LA_Showtime
04-09-2010, 03:06 PM
cool, so i take it you're good with weightlifting? I dont get it, I'm a big guy, 6'2, 230, strong, but I cant bench press ore than 100 lbs... anyway to build up strength?
You're 6'2, 230 pounds, and you consider yourself strong, yet you can't bench less than half your body weight...:wtf:
Knicksfever2010
04-09-2010, 03:14 PM
You're 6'2, 230 pounds, and you consider yourself strong, yet you can't bench less than half your body weight...:wtf:
well strong is a relative term, but in terms of gardening... I was planting trees the other day and was carrying around big arborvitaers... but when im laying down trying to lift say 125lbs over my head, i cant :(
A.M.G.
04-09-2010, 03:21 PM
It doesnt sound absurd to me because I've played baseball, soccer, basketball and was a pretty good swimmer. I just never hit the weight room until sophmore in college and all I could throw up was 135. I just think people assume for Durant to have played bball the level he did? He had to participate in some type of weight and strength training. Not impossible to escape, avoid lifting especially if the sport you play isnt required nor does it have an effect on how you play.
Think about he...he could have gone 4yrs in HS without touching weights if at all. He only went to Texas for a year. And a year in terms of college bball season terms not the 12 months = year. Then you tell him get on bench and lift 185? Why should he be able to do it when he's never been exposed to lifting his entire life? :confusedshrug:
Maybe cause I can relate i just dont see it being a big deal.
Good points. I just didn't realize some high-level basketball players don't lift weights at all. I guess by the time Durant was going to draft combines or whatever he still had those skinny Ethiopian arms, I'm sure he's stronger now.
But seriously, I never figured I would be physically superior in any way to an elite athlete who was getting drafted 2nd overall to the NBA. I think that was a reasonable assumption. Too bad being a 5'11 dude who can bench press a decent amount doesn't get you fame and fortune, whereas being a lanky 6'10 p*ssy with skill does.
Samurai Swoosh
04-09-2010, 03:26 PM
Man, I could bench 185 when I was like 13.
Yeah right ... how much did you weigh when you were a whopping 13 years old? I highly doubt you were pushing up 185.
lilgodfather1
04-09-2010, 03:35 PM
Yeah right ... how much did you weigh when you were a whopping 13 years old? I highly doubt you were pushing up 185.
I know i'm not who you quoted, but I was benching 165 at 13 and at 14 I could do 195. Durant is a ***** apparently, I can bench 365 and i'm only 18 right now. My weight is 255 if your wondering.
thejumpa
04-09-2010, 03:38 PM
185lb is a decent amount of weight to put up. I had been lifting for something like 4 months before I put that up. If you have never lifted in your life, it's a difficult task(unless you are huge from the get go).
KD is the definition of a kid, though. A couple years back he had a party at his house and all he was doing was playing X Box in his pajamas....imagine a skinny 6'10 doing that!
DonDadda59
04-09-2010, 03:38 PM
Skinny, lanky, can't bench 185?! He would get dominated in this era against the bigger, stronger athletic freaks in the league today. Good luck averaging even 5 PPG scrub.
Oh, wait. :oldlol:
Samurai Swoosh
04-09-2010, 03:49 PM
I know i'm not who you quoted, but I was benching 165 at 13 and at 14 I could do 195. Durant is a ***** apparently, I can bench 365 and i'm only 18 right now. My weight is 255 if your wondering.
Yea, I wasn't quoting you. And don't even make that to sound as if its normal to be putting up 185 (a good amount of weight in all reality) when you're basically in middle school. You'd be lying through your teeth if you made it sound that way.
No, I don't really care either nor was I wondering. But good for you. He doesn't need to be putting up massive weights to basically be averaging 30 ppg in the NBA. And I also doubt you have the arms that Durant has. It's more difficult for people with longer arms to lift weights given how far they have to push said weights. If you have some little T. Rex arms ... that's different. The short, squatty looking guys always can attain massive arms and chests quicker with their stocky little physiques.
How does that make Durant a *****, though?
LAClipsFan33
04-09-2010, 04:01 PM
cool, so i take it you're good with weightlifting? I dont get it, I'm a big guy, 6'2, 230, strong, but I cant bench press ore than 100 lbs... anyway to build up strength?
Get a personal trainer to teach you how to lift. Once you learn the techniques with your size you should become much stronger pretty quickly. Once you are comfortable with benching and you know your limits you need to get a spotter and push your limits when you lift. In my opinion the best way to get stronger is to lift weight which is very challenging for you. Of course you DEFINITELY should get used to lifting in general before you try this.
I was stuck at a wall. My goal was to lift 315, but I couldn't get there. The problem was that I was doing medium sets with like 225 - 245. A strong dude at my gym gave me some advice and I started doing less reps with between 275 and 295. In about a month I tried 315 again and it felt much lighter because my muscles had gotten used to feeling heavy weight. After I reached that goal I stopped trying to get stronger and now I can bench about 335 at max.
asu77golf
04-09-2010, 04:12 PM
Bench press is over rated as a measure of strength.
Durant has a 7'4" wingspan. Just because a little stout dude with short little arms can bench a lot more doesn't mean the little dude is stronger. The leverage involved in benching with huge arms like that puts Durant at a severe disadvantage. If he could bench 185, that would be like a 5'10" guy benching 250 or more. Not a big deal, he's plenty strong enough.
A.M.G.
04-09-2010, 04:56 PM
Yeah right ... how much did you weigh when you were a whopping 13 years old? I highly doubt you were pushing up 185.
It doesn't matter how much you weigh. And like people have said, bench press is overrated as a test of strength. I had short strong arms I guess when I was 13 bro, played hockey, did a lot of pushups and curls. Probably stunted my growth a little actually, I only grew to 5'11. What do you want from me?
I could bench 140 at least once when I was 11 too. Not a huge amount, I'm not claiming to be freaking Charles Atlas here. Are you gonna scepticize me with your scepticism on that one too, scepticky?
You act like 185 is this huge amount of weight to bench one freaking time, it really isn't. Not easy for an average guy who doesn't work out much, but not like super impressive at all.
RoseCity07
04-09-2010, 05:41 PM
Ironic thing is Cowherd dissed on Oden ever since his first NBA game.
zabuza666
04-09-2010, 05:47 PM
I know i'm not who you quoted, but I was benching 165 at 13 and at 14 I could do 195. Durant is a ***** apparently, I can bench 365 and i'm only 18 right now. My weight is 255 if your wondering.
No you couldn't, be quiet and sit in the corner
Swaggin916
04-09-2010, 06:20 PM
Durant was 19 during that test... the same age as many high school seniors...
Very few high school football lineman are benching 185 let alone basketball players. Not to mention with Durant's arm length, it takes much more strength than the 5'8'' 200 lb guy that can bounce it off his chest half the way back up.
Wrong.
I graduated 4 years ago and 95% of the players could bench more than 185... It didn't matter what position really it was all about who was dedicated to lifting. The highest on the team was an OG at 380 lbs... and then a LB at 365. Each of them were about 6'2-6'3 and 240 pounds.
The kids that messed around though and didn't take it seriously were skinny bastards who couldn't lift shit and didn't' play much or played WR (and they didn't do much in our offense).
Half the team at least was on steroids tho.... Amazing how many people are willing to mess up their body. Make a note to yourself... any guy who looks unnaturally big is almost always on roids. I didn't want to think so when I was younger because I wanted to think I could get that big... but then I grew up and learned a couple things.
I know i'm not who you quoted, but I was benching 165 at 13 and at 14 I could do 195. Durant is a ***** apparently, I can bench 365 and i'm only 18 right now. My weight is 255 if your wondering.
I'm still wondering what your physique is
OKC Adonis
04-09-2010, 10:42 PM
I'm still wondering what your physique is
If you want to ask him out just send him a PM man.
If you want to ask him out just send him a PM man.
No, I just can't imagine a high schooler being 255 unless they're really fat but this guy works out 3 times a week apparently.
joyner82
04-09-2010, 11:20 PM
Are people actually attempting to compare football players vs basketball players in terms of strength? if so I'm assuming you never played both sports in high school because basketball NEVER lifts and if they do it's not heavy lifting.
Facts are Durant probably never lifted a weight before college and he probably barely lifted there. Bench press is something that has to be developed. Look at Durant's pectorals...he has none. Also it doesn't change the fact he's probably the greatest scorer we've seen since Jordan.
Sammobile
04-11-2010, 01:43 AM
Ironic thing is Cowherd dissed on Oden ever since his first NBA game.
right dude is full of it
O.J A 6'4Mamba
04-11-2010, 02:24 AM
Durant was 19 during that test... the same age as many high school seniors...
Very few high school football lineman are benching 185 let alone basketball players. Not to mention with Durant's arm length, it takes much more strength than the 5'8'' 200 lb guy that can bounce it off his chest half the way back up.
most talented/skilled basketball players have arms longer than their height thats how the gain an advantage, but kills you in the weight room in terms of strength.
I mean Derrick Rose only got 185lbs up 10 times that's the same as Stephen Curry and Rose is hella more strong than Curry. Curry just has an average joe body just 6'3 though, with a 6'3 winspan. while Derrick Rose wing span in 6'8.
lilgodfather1
04-11-2010, 02:47 AM
I'm still wondering what your physique is
I'm 6'3, 255. My wing span is about 6'5. It's to bad I suck at shooting, I think I could be a fairly good basketball player if it wasn't for that.
lilgodfather1
04-11-2010, 02:55 AM
Yea, I wasn't quoting you. And don't even make that to sound as if its normal to be putting up 185 (a good amount of weight in all reality) when you're basically in middle school. You'd be lying through your teeth if you made it sound that way.
No, I don't really care either nor was I wondering. But good for you. He doesn't need to be putting up massive weights to basically be averaging 30 ppg in the NBA. And I also doubt you have the arms that Durant has. It's more difficult for people with longer arms to lift weights given how far they have to push said weights. If you have some little T. Rex arms ... that's different. The short, squatty looking guys always can attain massive arms and chests quicker with their stocky little physiques.
How does that make Durant a *****, though?
You sound pretty mad in this post. And no it is certainly not normal for guys to put up 165 at 13, I get that. But most guys in my school can do around 155, in fact the least amount of weight I have ever seen a kid do was 115 when I was in grade 10 and he was in grade 9. Maybe it is because I live in a small **** all to do town where a lot of the population is either a farmer, or a trades worker. Maybe theres something in the water. I don't really know, but when I played football we had our team up in the weight room, and our QB was a 205 beast. He could bench 290 which is pretty impressive, third on the team behind me and my freind who can do 335. Of course we are 18 now, and I am obviously a lineman.
I don't know why I am strong, I just kind of am. Some people are fast, some are smart, and some are strong. I fall in the latter category. I will personally PM you if I medal at the strongman competition I am entering this summer.
mattevans11
04-11-2010, 03:32 AM
right dude is full of it
"dude" gets paid to give his opinion. he is prob. encouraged to take outlandish stands on things.
he is in a profession where it is good to have people not like you as well as some supporters...
so remind me why he is a joke?
Freshprince619
04-11-2010, 03:34 AM
You sound pretty mad in this post. And no it is certainly not normal for guys to put up 165 at 13, I get that. But most guys in my school can do around 155, in fact the least amount of weight I have ever seen a kid do was 115 when I was in grade 10 and he was in grade 9. Maybe it is because I live in a small **** all to do town where a lot of the population is either a farmer, or a trades worker. Maybe theres something in the water. I don't really know, but when I played football we had our team up in the weight room, and our QB was a 205 beast. He could bench 290 which is pretty impressive, third on the team behind me and my freind who can do 335. Of course we are 18 now, and I am obviously a lineman.
I don't know why I am strong, I just kind of am. Some people are fast, some are smart, and some are strong. I fall in the latter category. I will personally PM you if I medal at the strongman competition I am entering this summer.
Pics or your lying. To bench that you must be abnormally big & strong
I'm 6'3, 255. My wing span is about 6'5. It's to bad I suck at shooting, I think I could be a fairly good basketball player if it wasn't for that.
6'2" 245
http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/l/fight_night_show_070408/terry_crews_1814234.jpg
Samurai Swoosh
04-11-2010, 03:46 AM
Pics or your lying. To bench that you must be abnormally big & strong
Oh its completely ridiculous ... then you have meat heads running around in this thread saying they put up 185 in middle school is beyond ridiculous. It's barely believable in certain cases, then they make it sound as if its status quo.
This meat head "lilgodfather1" claims he is in a strong man competition, obviously he's insinuating he's an elite weight lifter ... yet Kevin Durant a skillful athlete with a 7'4 wingspan is a quote / un-quote "b1tch" because in the pre-draft camp he didn't put up 185 lbs.
Uggghh, ok.
:rolleyes:
Freshprince619
04-11-2010, 03:50 AM
Oh its completely ridiculous ... then you have meat heads running around in this thread saying they put up 185 in middle school is beyond ridiculous. It's barely believable in certain cases, then they make it sound as if its status quo.
This meat head "lilgodfather1" claims he is in a strong man competition, obviously he's insinuating he's an elite weight lifter ... yet Kevin Durant a skillful athlete with a 7'4 wingspan is a quote / un-quote "b1tch" because in the pre-draft camp he didn't put up 185 lbs.
Uggghh, ok.
:rolleyes:
Agreed. I cant imagine a 6'3 255 pound guy who has abnormal amount of strength to the point where he is competing in Strongest Man in the world Competition, just sits at home and d*ckrides Lebron on ish
Something aint adding up?
the kid is skinny as hell. who cares if he can't bench alot of weight? are they gonna keep him from a future scoring title for not benching it?:rolleyes:
lilgodfather1
04-11-2010, 04:11 AM
6'2" 245
http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/l/fight_night_show_070408/terry_crews_1814234.jpg
One of my favourite actors :cheers:. But I am not built like that. I am more of a meaty guy with a lof of weight on my legs.
lilgodfather1
04-11-2010, 04:12 AM
Pics or your lying. To bench that you must be abnormally big & strong
I will never put my picture on the internet. Paranoia my freind.
lilgodfather1
04-11-2010, 04:14 AM
Agreed. I cant imagine a 6'3 255 pound guy who has abnormal amount of strength to the point where he is competing in Strongest Man in the world Competition, just sits at home and d*ckrides Lebron on ish
Something aint adding up?
You think that 365 bench is abnormally strong? I think that a guy that works out at the gym I do is abnormally strong. He is 245-250 and can put up 405 3-4 times at 6'4".
Freshprince619
04-11-2010, 04:18 AM
You think that 365 bench is abnormally strong? I think that a guy that works out at the gym I do is abnormally strong. He is 245-250 and can put up 405 3-4 times at 6'4".
Yes its abnormally strong. I doubt any NBA player can rep that
:oldlol: Your a joke
lilgodfather1
04-11-2010, 04:27 AM
Yes its abnormally strong. I doubt any NBA player can rep that
:oldlol: Your a joke
You don't think that an NBA player can put up 365? Or do you mean 405? It doesn't matter really. I think that Shaq could easily do either, and I am sure that 10 or so others could as well. Any ways my sport is not basketball so I am not built like a ball player, I am a defensive lineman. Being strong is kind of what I do in football.
Freshprince619
04-11-2010, 04:38 AM
You don't think that an NBA player can put up 365? Or do you mean 405? It doesn't matter really. I think that Shaq could easily do either, and I am sure that 10 or so others could as well. Any ways my sport is not basketball so I am not built like a ball player, I am a defensive lineman. Being strong is kind of what I do in football.
shaq? The biggest specimen to every step on a basketball court? So thats who your comparing yourself to? Cuz Dwight cant even bench that much. Shaq in his prime probably could
lilgodfather1
04-11-2010, 04:58 AM
shaq? The biggest specimen to every step on a basketball court? So thats who your comparing yourself to? Cuz Dwight cant even bench that much. Shaq in his prime probably could
You don't think Dwight can bench press 405? I doubt that very much, that man is massive.
Freshprince619
04-11-2010, 05:03 AM
You don't think Dwight can bench press 405? I doubt that very much, that man is massive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1HIQpeyqTo
His MAX is 365. :oldlol: :oldlol:
So your stronger then Dwight Howard? :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Man your a joke. Give up the charades
lilgodfather1
04-11-2010, 05:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1HIQpeyqTo
His MAX is 365. :oldlol: :oldlol:
So your stronger then Dwight Howard? :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Man your a joke. Give up the charades
So is mine :cheers:.
What is Dwights max leg press?
PS: that video is 2 years old, I bet Dwights bench is up a bit from then.
zabuza666
04-11-2010, 05:41 AM
6'2" 245
http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/l/fight_night_show_070408/terry_crews_1814234.jpg
/end thread
Marv_Albert
04-11-2010, 06:24 AM
http://phoenix.fanster.com/files/2009/02/kevin-durant-lead.jpg
I'm built like this n*gga, yeah so what **** a bench press if you can ball digga.
Samurai Swoosh
04-11-2010, 09:30 AM
You think that 365 bench is abnormally strong? I think that a guy that works out at the gym I do is abnormally strong. He is 245-250 and can put up 405 3-4 times at 6'4".
You're in strongman competitions, no? So by that very definition you're abnormally strong. It isn't normal, no matter what your weight to put up 160 lbs more than your weight on the bench press. That is abnormally strong.
Mamba
04-11-2010, 10:06 AM
hey now i don't want to really burst anyone's bubble but i have to come to lilgodfather1's defense. not that i believe him.
my brother 5'10 guy weighs all of 77 kg's benched 160 kg's 3 times and won a bench press competition at the gym for weight to lift ratio.
now im an 80 kilo guy and i can bench about 75 kilos regularly and peaks at 90 kilos, this is from 6 months of regular gym. now in all honesty its not impossible to bench that much at 6'2 255. but then again there's the always evident proof of pics or ur lying.
Samurai Swoosh
04-11-2010, 10:08 AM
hey now i don't want to really burst anyone's bubble but i have to come to lilgodfather1's defense. not that i believe him.
my brother 5'10 guy weighs all of 77 kg's benched 160 kg's 3 times and won a bench press competition at the gym for weight to lift ratio.
now im an 80 kilo guy and i can bench about 75 kilos regularly and peaks at 90 kilos, this is from 6 months of regular gym. now in all honesty its not impossible to bench that much at 6'2 255. but then again there's the always evident proof of pics or ur lying.
We're not arguing whether it can be done or not ...
Sammobile
04-11-2010, 01:50 PM
mattevans11
:applause:
if he can drop 30ppg in the nba, i don't care if he can't lift 40 lbs.
Samurai Swoosh
04-11-2010, 02:37 PM
if he can drop 30ppg in the nba, i don't care if he can't lift 40 lbs.
Ultimately that is the point that keeps getting lost. Whenever someone critiques an NBA player's physique I always laugh. As if it has EVER mattered. Countless guys were wirey built and are the best to ever play the game.
Splitz77
04-11-2010, 02:43 PM
Thats pre draft. You can try to make fun of Durant all you want, but he is one of the best players in teh NBA right now. And, im pretty sure he can bench 185 now.
O.J A 6'4Mamba
04-12-2010, 06:03 AM
Ultimately that is the point that keeps getting lost. Whenever someone critiques an NBA player's physique I always laugh. As if it has EVER mattered. Countless guys were wirey built and are the best to ever play the game.
There are that many twigs that are good like Kevin Durant though
Sammobile
04-12-2010, 06:53 PM
Thats pre draft. You can try to make fun of Durant all you want, but he is one of the best players in teh NBA right now. And, im pretty sure he can bench 185 now.
noone here is making fun of durant
Swaggin916
04-12-2010, 07:06 PM
So is mine :cheers:.
What is Dwights max leg press?
PS: that video is 2 years old, I bet Dwights bench is up a bit from then.
Leg press is useless exercise. There is no hip flexion involved... it's only good for packing on weight but does next to nothing in terms of increasing explosive ability... Just thought I'd throw that out there for all you guys doing leg press instead of squats and think you are getting the same thing... you aren't. Not saying that's you though man.
Dwight's max might be more than 365 now... but he was like 22 at that time. Durant was 18... Dwight was a skinny boy too coming out of HS... but he could put up 185 7 times at least... and he has a 7'4.5 foot wingspan... so Durant has no excuse.
lilgodfather1
04-12-2010, 08:28 PM
Leg press is useless exercise. There is no hip flexion involved... it's only good for packing on weight but does next to nothing in terms of increasing explosive ability... Just thought I'd throw that out there for all you guys doing leg press instead of squats and think you are getting the same thing... you aren't. Not saying that's you though man.
Dwight's max might be more than 365 now... but he was like 22 at that time. Durant was 18... Dwight was a skinny boy too coming out of HS... but he could put up 185 7 times at least... and he has a 7'4.5 foot wingspan... so Durant has no excuse.
Yeah I use Leg Press, Squats, Lunges, and a lot of balancing exercises to target the little muscles that don't necessarily get worked by doing the bigger exercises. My leg press is at about 1450 and my squats are at about 620. I do lunges with 70s in each hand, and a lot of balancing on a half medicine ball (bozu ball) as well as squats on it.
It's funny how guys on this thread find a 365 bench to be abnormal for a 255 lb guy who trains in strongman/powerlifting. They obviously don't train seriously.
At my gym, there are about 12 guys who bench at least 315. Of those 12, about 4-5 bench at least 405. One guy benches 495 (yes, 5 plates I've seen myself) for 2-3 reps. He's a competitive bodybuilder/powerlifter.
So I definitely believe lilgodfather.
And not being able to bench at least your bodyweight means you're weak. I don't care how long your arms are. Of course it doesn't stop Durrant from being a great scorer but getting stronger can only help his game (especially in the post, rebounding, on defense).
TAZORAC
04-12-2010, 09:50 PM
Wrong...the deadlift is manly, but the one armed pull-up is much more manlier. anyone can do a deadlift set...not everyone can do even a single one armed pull-up.
The deadlift is for idiots who want a bad back
lilgodfather1
04-12-2010, 10:08 PM
It's funny how guys on this thread find a 365 bench to be abnormal for a 255 lb guy who trains in strongman/powerlifting. They obviously don't train seriously.
At my gym, there are about 12 guys who bench at least 315. Of those 12, about 4-5 bench at least 405. One guy benches 495 (yes, 5 plates I've seen myself) for 2-3 reps. He's a competitive bodybuilder/powerlifter.
So I definitely believe lilgodfather.
And not being able to bench at least your bodyweight means you're weak. I don't care how long your arms are. Of course it doesn't stop Durrant from being a great scorer but getting stronger can only help his game (especially in the post, rebounding, on defense).
5 plates would be sick! I think that I will stop training strength after the summer competition though. I want to get more toned muscles, which shouldn't be that hard. The hardest part for me I think will be the "b.itch" factor that comes mentally with lifting half of what you can actually lift lol. I don't need strength after this year though, I am going nowhere in sports as I already know, and powerlifting is not a serious career path for me either. If I can maintain about 315 bench and not gain weight by toning my muscles than I will be fine with myself.
lilgodfather1
04-12-2010, 10:15 PM
The deadlift is for idiots who want a bad back
Deadlifts are a great exercise if you know how to do them correctly. My deadlifts are something that really sets me apart from a lot of the other strong people in my town though. I can do about 545 and the most I have ever seen another person do is 425 so it is quite an advantage IMO. The other huge advantage is my squating as the most that I have ever seen another guy do is 450.
TMac&Luther
04-12-2010, 10:22 PM
:oldlol: Last time I checked the basketball doesn't weigh 185 pounds. Durant is fine.
Seriously this thread reminds me of the one that was started here around the time Durant was coming out in the draft. I would love for someone to find that thread and expose all the fools who said he was going to be a bust, because he struggled on the bench.
I said then that drafting Oden over Durant was RETARDED...and if I was a Blazer fan right now, I'd be sick to my stomach.
steelpulse
04-13-2010, 03:29 AM
Man this shit getting annoying....
Kevin Durant is a superior baller than 99.999999999% of all the non-NBA meatheads that can bench more than 185....
Lifting tremendously heavy weights really is OVERRATED in the sport of basketball, it would only matter to those who play inside the paint... but for perimeter players, not much of a big fukkin deal.
THIS IS BASKETBALL, NOT UFC, NOT FOOTBALL..... AS LONG AS YOU DOMINATE THE GAME, WHO GIVES A SHIT HOW HEAVY U BENCH :lol
nbastatus
04-13-2010, 03:32 AM
weak sauce.
ZenMaster
04-13-2010, 03:51 AM
Man this shit getting annoying....
Kevin Durant is a superior baller than 99.999999999% of all the non-NBA meatheads that can bench more than 185....
Lifting tremendously heavy weights really is OVERRATED in the sport of basketball, it would only matter to those who play inside the paint... but for perimeter players, not much of a big fukkin deal.
THIS IS BASKETBALL, NOT UFC, NOT FOOTBALL..... AS LONG AS YOU DOMINATE THE GAME, WHO GIVES A SHIT HOW HEAVY U BENCH :lol
I tend to agree. But some strength would do him some good, especially when it comes to rebounding. Sometimes it gets snatched from him when it shouldn't. Saw Amare doing it the other night when they played Phoenix, Amare just took the ball right away from Durant on an offensive where Durant clearly should have and thought had it.
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