Kobe's pump fake = GOAT?

[dbugz]

I wonder if there's any player who's good using pump fake than Kobe.

I hate Kobe but dude is very good at that and I never saw any player before and current who's very effective using it

Is he the GOAT using pump fakes?


http://www.gifsoup.com/view/350248/kobe-o.gif

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/350255/kobe-o.gif

[plowking]

Wade? Not the best, but he gets a lot of his fouls like that.

Jordan was great, since he had huge hands.

[SAKOTXA]

Wade? Not the best, but he gets a lot of his fouls like that.

Jordan was great, since he had huge hands.
Wade used to use the glass a lot more before, why did he stop? It was very effective.

[Lebron23]

Sick move by Kobe.

[dbugz]

Wade? Not the best, but he gets a lot of his fouls like that.

Jordan was great, since he had huge hands.


Wade and Manu(Step back pump fake) are good also. But I'm always seeing Kobe getting an and one using it.

[plowking]

Wade used to use the glass a lot more before, why did he stop? It was very effective.

Guess he only gets out the good moves when he has good team mates around. :confusedshrug:

I have no idea. He's still as efficient as ever, so it's no real worry.

[dbugz]

Just saw this on youtube

Wade's art of pump fake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNmVStkDXew

[Toizumi]

Kobe might be GOAT yeah...
Have to mention Bird and Duncan here too.

[wally_world]

Yes, and im not even a Kobe fan. He might just be the most skilled player ever to play the game, perhaps the best footwork for a perimeter player as well.

[dbugz]

Yes, and im not even a Kobe fan. He might just be the most skilled player ever to play the game, perhaps the best footwork for a perimeter player as well.


Yup and his low-post game has tremendously improved.

[pete's montreux]

Best pump fake in the game goes to Ben Gordon.

[kurple]

I love that move on KMart

[TennesseeFan]

This is the only GOAT about Kobe that I would agree with.

[AJ2k8]

This is the only GOAT about Kobe that I would agree with.
What about GOAT ugly playoff face?:oldlol:

[phoenix18]

Melo's tip toe pump fake>>>>>>>>>>Kobe's.

That shit is nasty. GIF that.

[MMM]

Pierce has a good pump fake but it is not as pretty but he does a good job of getting the defender in the air and then occasionally making the 3 or 4 point play out of it.

[glidedrxlr22]

Uhhhmmm....no.

[100grandman]

Yes, and im not even a Kobe fan. He might just be the most skilled player ever to play the game, perhaps the best footwork for a perimeter player as well.


I'm gonna have to say ......NO.

[dbugz]

Uhhhmmm....no.


Then who?

[glidedrxlr22]

Then who?

Wade now. Kobe's pump fake GOAT...don't think so. Maybe top ten all time.

[macpierce]

im surprised ppl bite at wades pumpfake considering his jumpshot fell off

[StacksOnDeck]

Wade now. Kobe's pump fake GOAT...don't think so. Maybe top ten all time.

Your opinion is worthless. You would die before you give props to anything Laker related

[Diesel J]

Wade is great at getting dudes up in the air on those pump fakes and drawing fouls and so is Pierce.

[dbugz]

Your opinion is worthless. You would die before you give props to anything Laker related


His location will tell us why he picked Wade's over Kobe's :lol

Pls. tell him to give atleast some props to the player who really deserved it.


Wade is good no doubt about it but Kobe's pump fake is I think much better than Wade.

[glidedrxlr22]

Your opinion is worthless. You would die before you give props to anything Laker related


Actually no, check it:

Chick Hearn, best basketball announcer ever.

Jerry West one of my alltime favorite players.

Magic best point guard of the last 30 years....probably ever....depending on what you consider Oscar Robertson to be.

[macpierce]

its pretty obvious kobe has the best pumpfake currently in the game period, alltime is definitely up for discussion

[LA_Showtime]

GOAT? Ehhh, doubt it. It's a pump fake, it's hard to compare one to another. Wade and Pierce come to mind.

[Kensta]

Sometimes he tries like 3-4 pump fakes and the defender doesn't bite. He will then shoot it after wards. I hate that.

[Swaggin916]

Paul Pierce's stepback pump is better than Manu's and Wade's. Kobe's is the best though IMO cus he get's people on any kind of shot... stepback is easier to bite on.

[RajonKGcelts]

GOAT? Ehhh, doubt it. It's a pump fake, it's hard to compare one to another. Wade and Pierce come to mind.



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[Lakerlove420]

Your opinion is worthless. You would die before you give props to anything Laker related

I agree with Stacks that you would rather die.

Yes Chick, Jerry, Magic were all great. But to say anything good (deserving) about Kobe, Pau, or anything having to do with the Lakers of the last decade or so would just kill you. When Kobe signed on you signed off, graduated from Hater101, and just missed the bus.
Oh man, what a ride. Your own stubbornness :rolleyes: is the cause of you missing out . .

aka - winning championships - :pimp: - raising banners

[kunk75]

sefelosha didn't think his pump was GOAT on that last play before the half

[glidedrxlr22]

I agree with Stacks that you would rather die.

Yes Chick, Jerry, Magic were all great. But to say anything good (deserving) about Kobe, Pau, or anything having to do with the Lakers of the last decade or so would just kill you. When Kobe signed on you signed off, graduated from Hater101, and just missed the bus.
Oh man, what a ride. Your own stubbornness :rolleyes: is the cause of you missing out . .

aka - winning championships - :pimp: - raising banners

Lakers from past-1996=class acts

Lakers from 1997-present=arrogant chumps...credit for your titles, but sadly it ends this year with no back to back and we'll get to see some crying:

http://fourhorsementattoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/kobe-crying.jpg

http://www.spursdynasty.com/uploaded_images/Kobe_cries-775584.jpg

[Papaya Petee]

It's hard to say who has a better pumpfake because as long as they get the person in the air then its good. I think it should be judged about who does it more. In that case I see Wade doing it 2-3 times a game and I see Pierce doing it 2-3 times a game as well, same with Kobe, so I don't think theres a right or wrong answer.

[raiderfan19]

3 pages into a pump fake thread and no one has mentioned Dirk? Dirks pump is better than kobes for a simple reason. Hes a better shooter than kobe. There are others who shoot better than dirk but dont use the pump as much or as effectively but its hard to argue anyone is better at the pump fake than dirk.

[dr8ked]

sefelosha didn't think his pump was GOAT on that last play before the half

Thabo knows it's coming, Afflalo too does not go for it. When Thabo went to the bench yesterday, Jeff green was falling for it all the time and made kobe shoot alot of freethrows. Scott brooks is retarded, thabo held kobe to a 6-18 FG, when he went to the Bench, jeff green got torched for 19 points in less than 10 minutes. :wtf:

[ImmortalD24]

Lakers from past-1996=class acts

Lakers from 1997-present=arrogant chumps...credit for your titles, but sadly it ends this year with no back to back and we'll get to see some crying:

http://fourhorsementattoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/kobe-crying.jpg
http://www.spursdynasty.com/uploaded_images/Kobe_cries-775584.jpg
:wtf: Some class you're showing here bud. What the hell does this have to do with this thread topic?

[kunk75]

one of the announcers called green "a defensive specialist". his defense is special allright, in a helmet-wearing kind of way.


Thabo knows it's coming, Afflalo too does not go for it. When Thabo went to the bench yesterday, Jeff green was falling for it all the time and made kobe shoot alot of freethrows. Scott brooks is retarded, thabo held kobe to a 6-18 FG, when he went to the Bench, jeff green got torched for 19 points in less than 10 minutes. :wtf:

[kNIOKAS]

paul pierce qualifies for this :rockon:

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

I don't think it is Kobe actually pump fake that gets defenders jumping. I think is his abillity to score from anywhere on the floor and pull up on a dime that gets defenders off their feet Kobe just has a high enough IQ to pump fake and get himself to the line. Like watching in on the TV i wouldnt bit on it from a watching tv stand point.

I truely think that Sam Young has the best/greatest pump fake of all time in the NBA. He truely sells it full extension and even gets on his tippy toes. Gets so many defenders in the air, he just doesnt have the IQ to lean into them yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZcyykQSpDY at 36 seconds

[Jasi]

Am I the only one who thinks that players who seek contact while shooting AFTER their opponent has jumped for a fake shouldn't get a foul?

[crisoner]

Jordan was great, since he had huge hands.

That's what she said....

http://cjhallman44.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/boss.jpg

Sorry couldn't resist.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Jordan's pump-faking ability was pretty clearly better than Kobe's. Bird's in the same league as well.

[Batz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBt_9t57F-0





/THREAD

[itsGameTime]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBt_9t57F-0





/THREAD

The reason Kobe has the best pump fake in the game is because when the defender bites on it, he makes the shot and gets the and 1. But just as important, when the defender doesn't bite, he still rises up and makes the shot more than anyone else in the league, especially in clutch situations. Here's another example of that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D_pwLLUBUU

[OneMoreSucka]

Kobe has the GOAT ineffective pump fake. Dude fakes 4 times, the defender never bites, and he just gives up and takes a contested fadeaway :oldlol:

[Batz]

Kobe has the GOAT ineffective pump fake. Dude fakes 4 times, the defender never bites, and he just gives up and takes a contested fadeaway :oldlol:
So...? It's like that for everyone who faces a good defender.

[Jasi]

The reason Kobe has the best pump fake in the game is because when the defender bites on it, he makes the shot and gets the and 1. But just as important, when the defender doesn't bite, he still rises up and makes the shot more than anyone else in the league, especially in clutch situations. Here's another example of that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D_pwLLUBUU

:roll: :oldlol:

[OneMoreSucka]

So...? It's like that for everyone who faces a good defender.
So to say he has the GOAT pump fake isn't true...the goat pump fake should be an effective one, should it not?

[phoenix18]

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[NBASTATMAN]

Yes, and im not even a Kobe fan. He might just be the most skilled player ever to play the game, perhaps the best footwork for a perimeter player as well.


Mj had better footwork.. So did Hakeem.. He did get help from Hakeem in his post game... Kobe's post game was the best I had ever seen this year... Not the most skilled player but he is super skilled... I would put NASH on the top list for current most skilled player.. Dude shoots 50 percent, 40 percent from three, and passes with his left hand better than Kobe wished he could pass with his right...

[dawsey6]

GOAT pump fake? Really? C'mon.

http://trcs.wikispaces.com/file/view/01.jpg/74243133/01.jpg

Kobe practically graduated this guy's master class.

It's up there with him, though.

[Replay32]

Pump faking to get a defender in the air and jumping into them is beyond WEAK. Sometimes it's a legit foul, but most of the time the defender will jump into the player in the air. The same goes for when a player rises for a shot going through a defenders arms. The offensive player is initiating the contact and then flopping/flailing their arms to draw a foul.

To me it is the same as defensive flopping. It is an offensive flop and it's weak sauce. Man I miss the 80's and 90's. Those games just flowed better overall.

[Jasi]

Pump faking to get a defender in the air and jumping into them is beyond WEAK. Sometimes it's a legit foul, but most of the time the defender will jump into the player in the air. The same goes for when a player rises for a shot going through a defenders arms. The offensive player is initiating the contact and then flopping/flailing their arms to draw a foul.

To me it is the same as defensive flopping. It is an offensive flop and it's weak sauce. Man I miss the 80's and 90's. Those games just flowed better overall.

Agreed, see one of my previous posts here

[OldSchoolBBall]

Watch this video to see Jordan give an absolute CLINIC on pump fakes of all sorts. Fakes guys out of their shoes at least half a dozen times:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A94jQMuO2k

[StacksOnDeck]

Watch this video to see Jordan give an absolute CLINIC on pump fakes of all sorts. Fakes guys out of their shoes at least half a dozen times:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A94jQMuO2k

Of course Loco and JordanLover23 and JordanForever has every Jordan video at his fingertips.

[ProfessorMurder]

GOAT pump fake? Really? C'mon.

http://trcs.wikispaces.com/file/view/01.jpg/74243133/01.jpg

Kobe practically graduated this guy's master class.

It's up there with him, though.

Master class? He trained with Hakeem for a week, if that.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Of course Loco and JordanLover23 and JordanForever has every Jordan video at his fingertips.

I posted it because it contains a lot of pump fakes. I could have just as easily posted MJ's 55 point game vs. Washington from the 1997 playoffs as more evidence. :D

[ProfessorMurder]

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Nah, best first step and arguable best triple-threat (of current players of course).

[robertshaw_1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0iwlPRxcfk&feature=related

[Scribbles]

Sometimes he tries like 3-4 pump fakes and the defender doesn't bite. He will then shoot it after wards. I hate that.


lol, reverse psychology. faking a pump fake

[CeoTypeDoe619]

I truely think that Sam Young has the best/greatest pump fake of all time in the NBA. He truely sells it full extension and even gets on his tippy toes. Gets so many defenders in the air, he just doesnt have the IQ to lean into them yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZcyykQSpDY at 36 seconds
IS this a joke?? That was the ugliest pump fake i have ever seen and he TRAVELED :oldlol: :oldlol:
I hope thats your brother if not very sad

[brandonislegend]

Sam Young's pumpfake is ridicolous, every game he played in this year seemed he got someone to bite terribly often times jumping completely over him haha

[nek1477]

same game, pumpfake on dwade again at :14
crazy pumpfake and make on d-wade 1:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpQEy6pBgtc


and for some reason, i love that stutter step move kobe does at 3:13, defenders never see it coming :cheers:

[gotbacon23]

i can't believe we are 5 pages in and nobody mentioned kevin mchale....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUJg6n_kUdo

[branslowski]

Kobe's pump fakes are insane...The one he did vs the Knicks was :eek:

He does it over and over...

[ImmortalD24]

i can't believe we are 5 pages in and nobody mentioned kevin mchale....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUJg6n_kUdo
Gasol does that every game..

[Jailblazers7]

The answer for greatest pump fake is Sam Young and its not even close.

[phoenix18]

The answer for greatest pump fake is Sam Young and its not even close.
Yeah, that is nasty. That's the same thing I have seen melo do which is why I kept mentioning him but Sam takes this one.