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Randy
04-22-2010, 10:14 AM
I have DSOTM, The Wall, Wish You Were Here, Animals, and A Momentary Lapse of Reason. Obviously I am lacking in anything with Syd Barrett, but I don't know which earlier album to pick up??

Jasi
04-22-2010, 10:41 AM
I have DSOTM, The Wall, Wish You Were Here, Animals, and A Momentary Lapse of Reason. Obviously I am lacking in anything with Syd Barrett, but I don't know which earlier album to pick up??

You're missing the best part.
Go with the Piper, man

LJJ
04-22-2010, 10:41 AM
If it's Syd Barrett you are after, obviously the only option is Piper at the Gates.

knobs
04-22-2010, 10:43 AM
neither of them are from the syd-led days, but the next two albums i'd go for are 'the final cut' and 'meddle'.

the former receives a lot of hate, but as (more or less) a waters solo album with guest appearances by the rest of the band and some orchestration, its a pretty cool album with some really great songs and catchy melodies. i consider it more or less a continuation of 'the wall' in that it sticks to the same general song formulas that make up so much of the songwriting waters does. in fact, a few of the tracks were written for 'the wall' but rejected by the band (including the title track). the politicized lyrics come off pretty forced and it isn't exactly the most versatile album, but still well worth a listen.

'meddle' is the album you need to immediately get though. it's known for ushering in the new waters-led sound that would eventually put them on the map. i'm sure you've heard 'echoes', which comprises the entire second side (and is one of the best pieces they've ever written), but the five songs on the first side are very good too. especially 'fearless' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCgQuj8v2gg).



as far as the syd days go, i'd go with 'saucerful' in a heartbeat. the debut had its moments but overall it was too long and a bit too out there, and although syd was less involved in the sophomore, he still had a clear hand in it. the opening three tracks of 'saucerful' are absolutely awesome and set a perfect tone (i'm sure you've heard 'let there be light' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCPnQ-125Vw), and 'set the controls for the heart of the sun' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvSHexRlNvo) is just downright eerie), and then you get to 'corporal clegg' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhhv-boJJjE) which is a super wonky tune with strangely beatles-sounding lyrics. so yeah, i'd start with that one if i were you, and then move back to 'piper'.

i've stopped listening to 'atom heart mother' completely. its got some cool sections but overall its pretty clunky and not in any way cohesive (probably because each member wrote a song by themselves, unless i'm mistaken).

'ummagumma' is pretty strange, although the first live disk is pretty cool once you've become acclimated to the earlier albums. the studio disk is mostly avant garde crap though and you wouldn't be missing much by passing.

'obscured by clouds' is above average. haven't heard 'more' yet.

DinoRadja40
04-22-2010, 10:54 AM
get the live at pompei dvd/cd

boozehound
04-22-2010, 11:47 AM
Personally, I would pick up Obscured by Clouds, probably my personal favorite. Its not a Syd record though.

pete's montreux
04-22-2010, 12:50 PM
neither of them are from the syd-led days, but the next two albums i'd go for are 'the final cut' and 'meddle'.

the former receives a lot of hate, but as (more or less) a waters solo album with guest appearances by the rest of the band and some orchestration, its a pretty cool album with some really great songs and catchy melodies. i consider it more or less a continuation of 'the wall' in that it sticks to the same general song formulas that make up so much of the songwriting waters does. in fact, a few of the tracks were written for 'the wall' but rejected by the band (including the title track). the politicized lyrics come off pretty forced and it isn't exactly the most versatile album, but still well worth a listen.

'meddle' is the album you need to immediately get though. it's known for ushering in the new waters-led sound that would eventually put them on the map. i'm sure you've heard 'echoes', which comprises the entire second side (and is one of the best pieces they've ever written), but the five songs on the first side are very good too. especially 'fearless' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCgQuj8v2gg).



as far as the syd days go, i'd go with 'saucerful' in a heartbeat. the debut had its moments but overall it was too long and a bit too out there, and although syd was less involved in the sophomore, he still had a clear hand in it. the opening three tracks of 'saucerful' are absolutely awesome and set a perfect tone (i'm sure you've heard 'let there be light' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCPnQ-125Vw), and 'set the controls for the heart of the sun' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvSHexRlNvo) is just downright eerie), and then you get to 'corporal clegg' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhhv-boJJjE) which is a super wonky tune with strangely beatles-sounding lyrics. so yeah, i'd start with that one if i were you, and then move back to 'piper'.

i've stopped listening to 'atom heart mother' completely. its got some cool sections but overall its pretty clunky and not in any way cohesive (probably because each member wrote a song by themselves, unless i'm mistaken).

'ummagumma' is pretty strange, although the first live disk is pretty cool once you've become acclimated to the earlier albums. the studio disk is mostly avant garde crap though and you wouldn't be missing much by passing.

'obscured by clouds' is above average. haven't heard 'more' yet.

Meddle is the correct answer. The entire album is incredible, not just Echoes.

DeuceWallaces
04-22-2010, 01:11 PM
Meddle and Obscured by Clouds are the obvious answers!

boozehound
04-22-2010, 01:34 PM
Meddle is the correct answer. The entire album is incredible, not just Echoes.
meddle is probably my second favorite album (to be fair, there is a lot of PF I dont care for). I dont know if there is a "correct answer", but those two and animals are the tops IMO.

pete's montreux
04-22-2010, 02:30 PM
meddle is probably my second favorite album (to be fair, there is a lot of PF I dont care for). I dont know if there is a "correct answer", but those two and animals are the tops IMO.

True. I'm not even sure if Echoes if my favorite song on the album. It's probably tied with "One of these days"

RedBlackAttack
04-22-2010, 05:39 PM
neither of them are from the syd-led days, but the next two albums i'd go for are 'the final cut' and 'meddle'.

the former receives a lot of hate, but as (more or less) a waters solo album with guest appearances by the rest of the band and some orchestration, its a pretty cool album with some really great songs and catchy melodies. i consider it more or less a continuation of 'the wall' in that it sticks to the same general song formulas that make up so much of the songwriting waters does. in fact, a few of the tracks were written for 'the wall' but rejected by the band (including the title track). the politicized lyrics come off pretty forced and it isn't exactly the most versatile album, but still well worth a listen.

'meddle' is the album you need to immediately get though. it's known for ushering in the new waters-led sound that would eventually put them on the map. i'm sure you've heard 'echoes', which comprises the entire second side (and is one of the best pieces they've ever written), but the five songs on the first side are very good too. especially 'fearless' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCgQuj8v2gg).



as far as the syd days go, i'd go with 'saucerful' in a heartbeat. the debut had its moments but overall it was too long and a bit too out there, and although syd was less involved in the sophomore, he still had a clear hand in it. the opening three tracks of 'saucerful' are absolutely awesome and set a perfect tone (i'm sure you've heard 'let there be light' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCPnQ-125Vw), and 'set the controls for the heart of the sun' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvSHexRlNvo) is just downright eerie), and then you get to 'corporal clegg' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhhv-boJJjE) which is a super wonky tune with strangely beatles-sounding lyrics. so yeah, i'd start with that one if i were you, and then move back to 'piper'.

i've stopped listening to 'atom heart mother' completely. its got some cool sections but overall its pretty clunky and not in any way cohesive (probably because each member wrote a song by themselves, unless i'm mistaken).

'ummagumma' is pretty strange, although the first live disk is pretty cool once you've become acclimated to the earlier albums. the studio disk is mostly avant garde crap though and you wouldn't be missing much by passing.

'obscured by clouds' is above average. haven't heard 'more' yet.
Ok... Now I know this is Ridonks. Good to have you back, buddy. :cheers:

As for the OP, I will 'echo' all of the others by recommending Meddle. It is Floyd's first really complete album. There isn't a bad track on it (granted... there are only six in total).

While 'Echoes' and 'One of These Days' are classics, Pillow of Winds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj3kDOIFnMI) is probably the most underrated Floyd song of all-time. It never fails to completely relax me.

Fantastic album.

Styles p
04-22-2010, 05:41 PM
remakes of dark side of the moon to get
dub side of the moon
darkside of the moon remade with nintendo noises
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euLdKW_Db1k

knobs
04-22-2010, 05:51 PM
Ok... Now I know this is Ridonks.
i was waiting to see how long it would take posting pretty obviously as myself for you guys to catch on. lol

but 'pillow of winds' is the most underrated floyd track of all time? i gotta staunchly disagree there, man. its certainly relaxing and i far from hate it, but frankly its waaaaay too boring to boast such a bold title. unless i'm mistaken it was written primarily by gilmour, who isn't exactly the best solo song-writer in the world - better at adding bluesy elements and solos to tracks created by others. there's no real melody to it and it isn't nearly as memorable as 'fearless', among plenty of others. in fact, i like the bouncy 'san tropez' quite a bit more (in spite of despising it upon my first listen).



btw, is there a general consensus that both 'a momentary lapse of reason' and 'the division bell' stink beyond belief? thats the type of product you get when you leave gilmour to lead a band by himself. just god awful.

favourite response from waters regarding the first gilmour-led record: "well at least it was appropriately titled" :oldlol:

johndeeregreen
04-22-2010, 05:55 PM
Why the hiatus/name change?

Dolphin
04-22-2010, 05:57 PM
PF sandwiched some pretty legit songs in the middle of a lot of boringness.

Were 90% of their songs made for people strung out on coke/high on heroin?

FCN
04-22-2010, 05:58 PM
Get the Roger Waters solo album "The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking".

It's got Eric Clapton on lead guitar, and is pretty awesome. Sounds a bit like The Wall and The Final Cut.

knobs
04-22-2010, 06:05 PM
It's got Eric Clapton on lead guitar, and is pretty awesome.
song is far from great, but the clapton solo at around 2:20 is among my favourites of all time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MheMn-AUvQA)

i wasn't an enormous fan of the album overall, though i should probably give it another chance to let it sink in. i definitely prefer 'radio k.a.o.s.' which has much more of an 80s vibe.



Why the hiatus/name change?
i took a break for the sake of school and decided to abort my old name, fearing the temptation of ish might be too much for me. sounds sad, doesn't it? maybe i'm weaker than i thought. i remembered i had this user name a week ago or so, and with the year -just- about done (one more 6-8 page take home exam that i need to finish by tomorrow morning), i decided to make a return to ish to procrastinate. ;)

FCN
04-22-2010, 06:18 PM
song is far from great, but the clapton solo at around 2:20 is among my favourites of all time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MheMn-AUvQA)

i wasn't an enormous fan of the album overall, though i should probably give it another chance to let it sink in. i definitely prefer 'radio k.a.o.s.' which has much more of an 80s vibe.


You are right on all counts but 1. The song is great =-)

The whole album is amazing really IMO. Probably an acquired taste for some Floyd Fans though.

knobs
04-22-2010, 06:23 PM
i haven't listened to it in about a year, but i think i remember finding that waters was a bit too herky-jerky with the way his lyrics rode over the songs. whereas most prime floyd records showed consistent and repetitive lyrical structures, 'hitchhiking' was all over the place and rarely settled into a smooth head-nodding pace. you could actually hear that trend develop in 'the final cut' and i didn't mind it in moderation, but it just went too far in 'hitchhiking'.

but maybe i'll give 'er a re-listen soon just to re-evaluate. this very thread has had me revisiting and enjoying 'obscured by clouds' a lot, although i still don't think its anywhere near their best like a few others seem to.

FCN
04-22-2010, 06:30 PM
i haven't listened to it in about a year, but i think i remember finding that waters was a bit too herky-jerky with the way his lyrics rode over the songs. whereas most prime floyd records showed consistent and repetitive lyrical structures, 'hitchhiking' was all over the place and rarely settled into a smooth head-nodding pace. you could actually hear that trend develop in 'the final cut' and i didn't mind it in moderation, but it just went too far in 'hitchhiking'.

but maybe i'll give 'er a re-listen soon just to re-evaluate. this very thread has had me revisiting and enjoying 'obscured by clouds' a lot, although i still don't think its anywhere near their best like a few others seem to.

It definitely follows the trend of the final cut, and certain songs off the Wall which have this same sound. Keep in mind Waters wrote the Pros and Cons at the same time he wrote The Wall. The band chose to do The Wall first when presented with both by Waters. Given this, it would actually be more accurate to say that The Final cut, while recorded first, follows trends set by The Pros and Cons. (and The Wall)

:D

DeuceWallaces
04-22-2010, 06:30 PM
The Final Cut didn't develop any trends. It was just Wall B-Sides and left over junk.

FCN
04-22-2010, 06:36 PM
The Final Cut didn't develop any trends. It was just Wall B-Sides and left over junk.

You refer to When The Tigers Broke Free

Great song, and should have been on The Wall soundtrack.

It was left off the Final Cut as well, and only finally added to some remastered version recently I think.

knobs
04-22-2010, 06:49 PM
Keep in mind Waters wrote the Pros and Cons at the same time he wrote The Wall. The band chose to do The Wall first when presented with both by Waters.
yeah, that does ring a bell now that you mention it. again i'll have to give it a re-listen, but from what i remember, 'pros and cons' did have a distinctly different lyrical vibe (i suppose phonetically, as opposed to thematically, would be the best way to put it) from both 'the wall' and 'the final cut'.


The Final Cut didn't develop any trends. It was just Wall B-Sides and left over junk.
this is inaccurate, i think. this wasn't like, say, radiohead releasing 'kid a' and following it up with 'amnesiac' (and don't bother ranting about how both are minimalist drivel, we've heard it before). those records consisted of the same studio recording, in which some songs were picked for album A and others were picked for album B, using whatever criteria decided on by the band.

for floyd though, at least based on the final studio recordings of either album, its pretty clear that 'the final cut' was a product of rogers revisiting and altering the songs, if only to meld them together and give them a more cohesive feel. i say that only based on how much 'the final cut' diverges thematically from 'the wall'. musically they're very similar, so you're definitely on point when you say that a lot of the songs were rejects that the rest of the band didn't feel were worthy of 'the wall' (and interviews with the band back that up). but at an educated guess, given how much more political 'the final cut' turned out to be (the post war dream, get your filthy hands off my desert, two suns in the sunset, hell the whole f*cking album), its pretty damn safe to say that waters rewrote a lot of the lyrics (and perhaps some of the music) in preparation for the release.

the general trend of slightly more wonky and nonrhythmic lyrics on waters part is just something i noticed in 'the final cut' that seemed even more enhanced in 'hitchhiking'. maybe i'm wrong, once again, its been a while since i listened to the latter.


You refer to When The Tigers Broke Free

Great song, and should have been on The Wall soundtrack.

It was left off the Final Cut as well, and only finally added to some remastered version recently I think.
yeah, this is right. and i'm pretty sure the song 'the final cut' was also originally intended for 'the wall', along with a few others. i actually only had the vinyl version for a while, and got accustomed to it before i downloaded a version to throw on my ipod - i got to 'when the tigers broke free' and had no idea what was happening, except i knew i recognized it from the movie. lol

RedBlackAttack
04-22-2010, 07:48 PM
i was waiting to see how long it would take posting pretty obviously as myself for you guys to catch on. lol

but 'pillow of winds' is the most underrated floyd track of all time? i gotta staunchly disagree there, man. its certainly relaxing and i far from hate it, but frankly its waaaaay too boring to boast such a bold title. unless i'm mistaken it was written primarily by gilmour, who isn't exactly the best solo song-writer in the world - better at adding bluesy elements and solos to tracks created by others. there's no real melody to it and it isn't nearly as memorable as 'fearless', among plenty of others. in fact, i like the bouncy 'san tropez' quite a bit more (in spite of despising it upon my first listen).



btw, is there a general consensus that both 'a momentary lapse of reason' and 'the division bell' stink beyond belief? thats the type of product you get when you leave gilmour to lead a band by himself. just god awful.

favourite response from waters regarding the first gilmour-led record: "well at least it was appropriately titled" :oldlol:
Actually, Pillow of Winds was a joint effort. Gilmour comprised the song and Waters wrote the lyrics. I think that it was one of their better acoustic offerings and it is almost never talked about, which is why I denoted it 'underrated.' I love Fearless, too, but it has gained popularity over the years.

Take a look at the lyrics for Pillows on their own when you get the chance... It is pretty brilliantly written.

I agree for the most part, though. A lot of Gilmour solo stuff is repetitive and lame. He is one of the best guitarists of all-time at putting the perfect notes together when he comprises a solo, but he often falls short when writing entire tracks... It is sort of odd, when you think about it.

knobs
04-22-2010, 08:02 PM
yeah, i was mostly speaking musically - although i'm listening to it now and i was probably hasty. it isn't that boring, i just don't think it should be brought up as anywhere really near a top floyd song. i do love the lyrics, though that tends to run true for anything waters happens to write.

i'll always love 'fat old sun' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0YANM9lz4c) though. really basic tune that doesn't really hold a candle to the acoustic complexity of 'pillow', but its plenty catchy and i never get tired of the steady build-up to the electric solo. this was actually one of the first i tried to learn on acoustic - i just tried to play it again, and its still not super fluent. that f-chord is always a killer for my transitions, even just coming down from the c-chord. hard to make it sound smooth, but i guess that'll come with time.

DeuceWallaces
04-22-2010, 08:27 PM
yeah, that does ring a bell now that you mention it. again i'll have to give it a re-listen, but from what i remember, 'pros and cons' did have a distinctly different lyrical vibe (i suppose phonetically, as opposed to thematically, would be the best way to put it) from both 'the wall' and 'the final cut'.


this is inaccurate, i think. this wasn't like, say, radiohead releasing 'kid a' and following it up with 'amnesiac' (and don't bother ranting about how both are minimalist drivel, we've heard it before). those records consisted of the same studio recording, in which some songs were picked for album A and others were picked for album B, using whatever criteria decided on by the band.

for floyd though, at least based on the final studio recordings of either album, its pretty clear that 'the final cut' was a product of rogers revisiting and altering the songs, if only to meld them together and give them a more cohesive feel. i say that only based on how much 'the final cut' diverges thematically from 'the wall'. musically they're very similar, so you're definitely on point when you say that a lot of the songs were rejects that the rest of the band didn't feel were worthy of 'the wall' (and interviews with the band back that up). but at an educated guess, given how much more political 'the final cut' turned out to be (the post war dream, get your filthy hands off my desert, two suns in the sunset, hell the whole f*cking album), its pretty damn safe to say that waters rewrote a lot of the lyrics (and perhaps some of the music) in preparation for the release.

the general trend of slightly more wonky and nonrhythmic lyrics on waters part is just something i noticed in 'the final cut' that seemed even more enhanced in 'hitchhiking'. maybe i'm wrong, once again, its been a while since i listened to the latter.


yeah, this is right. and i'm pretty sure the song 'the final cut' was also originally intended for 'the wall', along with a few others. i actually only had the vinyl version for a while, and got accustomed to it before i downloaded a version to throw on my ipod - i got to 'when the tigers broke free' and had no idea what was happening, except i knew i recognized it from the movie. lol

Your analogy of Kid A and Amnesiac is inappropriate. Most of the Final Cut was written at the same time as the Wall and it was left on the cutting room floor because it was not up to standards; not because they were intended to be two separate albums. A variety of biographies I've read discuss this in detail.

And Amnesiac is not minimalist drivel, but thanks for the lame and unwarranted pot shot.

knobs
04-22-2010, 08:40 PM
potshot wasn't intended to offend - apologies. twas a poor assumption on my part, based on your opinion of 'kid a'. although i'm surprised you hate 'kid a' as much as you do then, because while not identical, both it and 'amnesiac' are pretty similar.

but really...

Most of the Final Cut was written at the same time as the Wall and it was left on the cutting room floor because it was not up to standards; not because they were intended to be two separate albums.
did you read my post? i acknowledged that throughout, notably here:


musically they're very similar, so you're definitely on point when you say that a lot of the songs were rejects that the rest of the band didn't feel were worthy of 'the wall' (and interviews with the band back that up)

my point is that, if 'the final cut' consisted of only (or even primarily) "B-Sides and left over junk" from 'the wall', then how do you explain the overtly political themes and reference that run through all of the lyrics ('maggie, what have you done?'), none of which make much of an appearance on 'the wall'? i think its pretty clear that even if the music was leftover, which as we agree much of it was, the lyrics were in all likelihood rewritten/altered by waters to create more of a cohesive (and political) record. hence why i said the lyrical style that waters used in 'the final cut', at least in terms of rhythm, was different from 'the wall'. and from what i remember, that trend was accentuated in 'hitchhiking'.

pete's montreux
04-23-2010, 12:21 AM
donKs to Pink Floyd is like me to Led Zeppelin :applause:

donKs, check this site out: http://www.yeeshkul.com/forum/index.php

knobs
04-23-2010, 08:06 AM
lol, having not even listened to every studio album yet, somehow i don't think i'm quite there yet.

TennesseeFan
04-23-2010, 09:54 AM
I have DSOTM, The Wall, Wish You Were Here, Animals, and A Momentary Lapse of Reason. Obviously I am lacking in anything with Syd Barrett, but I don't know which earlier album to pick up??

You haven't listened to Echoes yet?!!

Meddle is a must have album for PF fans.

Happy listening!

pete's montreux
04-23-2010, 11:44 AM
lol, having not even listened to every studio album yet, somehow i don't think i'm quite there yet.

And here I thought you were somehow my LZ/PF equal/rival. Pffffft.

DeuceWallaces
04-23-2010, 11:58 AM
potshot wasn't intended to offend - apologies. twas a poor assumption on my part, based on your opinion of 'kid a'. although i'm surprised you hate 'kid a' as much as you do then, because while not identical, both it and 'amnesiac' are pretty similar.

but really...

did you read my post? i acknowledged that throughout, notably here:



my point is that, if 'the final cut' consisted of only (or even primarily) "B-Sides and left over junk" from 'the wall', then how do you explain the overtly political themes and reference that run through all of the lyrics ('maggie, what have you done?'), none of which make much of an appearance on 'the wall'? i think its pretty clear that even if the music was leftover, which as we agree much of it was, the lyrics were in all likelihood rewritten/altered by waters to create more of a cohesive (and political) record. hence why i said the lyrical style that waters used in 'the final cut', at least in terms of rhythm, was different from 'the wall'. and from what i remember, that trend was accentuated in 'hitchhiking'.

Well they did actually produce the album a few years later. It's not like they just took the tracks laid down during wall session and put them together as the Final Cut. Parts were re-recorded, a few re-writes, but it was still composed and conceptualized during the wall.

DeuceWallaces
04-23-2010, 11:59 AM
And here I thought you were somehow my LZ/PF equal/rival. Pffffft.

That would be me; I have everything. Every studio album every soundtrack, every box, everything, and I got it all in hard copy in the 90s. Was a nut in my teen years.

pete's montreux
04-23-2010, 12:02 PM
That would be me; I have everything. Every studio album every soundtrack, every box, everything, and I got it all in hard copy in the 90s. Was a nut in my teen years.
Ah. I have it all as well but in digital. I truly plan on buying everything in the future. I envision a library/music/movie room complete with vintage framed movie posters. It will be sick.

DeuceWallaces
04-23-2010, 12:13 PM
Yeah, I have all the posters framed too. Various memorabilia like a Wish You Were Here block of vinyl that hadn't been pressed yet, t-shirts, and other crap. Since then I've ripped everything and downloaded all the shit that was never released. Sometimes I miss my solid two rows of floyd discs on my rack, but damn, I got sick of moving that shit every two years.

gigantes
05-12-2014, 08:05 PM
many to choose from: (ahem)

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10271504_518685834909976_3056677510049559279_n.jpg

D-FENS
05-12-2014, 08:20 PM
I have DSOTM, The Wall, Wish You Were Here, Animals, and A Momentary Lapse of Reason. Obviously I am lacking in anything with Syd Barrett, but I don't know which earlier album to pick up??

Avoid Syd like the plague - that shit is terrible. Sounds to early 60's and jingly.

Crystallas
05-12-2014, 09:01 PM
Don't forget to add this.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6e/Pink_Floyd_-_Division_Bell.jpg/220px-Pink_Floyd_-_Division_Bell.jpg

A lot of critics didn't like it for whatever reason(s), but considering it being a late addition to an already impossible-to-top collection, if any no-name artist released it, it would have gotten incredible reviews. It was a case of overwhelming expectations. But still such an amazing album, the Division Bell.

DeuceWallaces
05-12-2014, 09:31 PM
Don't forget to add this.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6e/Pink_Floyd_-_Division_Bell.jpg/220px-Pink_Floyd_-_Division_Bell.jpg

A lot of critics didn't like it for whatever reason(s), but considering it being a late addition to an already impossible-to-top collection, if any no-name artist released it, it would have gotten incredible reviews. It was a case of overwhelming expectations. But still such an amazing album, the Division Bell.

Jesus what a snoozer. If you're that deep you're better off with Gilmour's three solo albums, especially the first two, before you do Division Bell.

gigantes
05-12-2014, 09:50 PM
Jesus what a snoozer. If you're that deep you're better off with Gilmour's three solo albums, especially the first two, before you do Division Bell.
i realise that it wasn't really the same group after the early 80's, but was there *anything* of note produced after the wall? anything at all?


i remember a cutesy tune or two from the delicate sound of bullshit... as well as a pleasant alt-rock tune that gilmour wrote for some 90's group, but other than that...

andgar923
05-12-2014, 10:05 PM
I have DSOTM, The Wall, Wish You Were Here, Animals, and A Momentary Lapse of Reason. Obviously I am lacking in anything with Syd Barrett, but I don't know which earlier album to pick up??

Not really a fan of the Syd Floyd.

But as everybody else alluded too, Meddle is the way to go.

Like others mentioned, get the Live at Pompeii video.

I dig this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuymq-MlsNU

George Clinton will be proud :pimp:

Crystallas
05-12-2014, 10:09 PM
Jesus what a snoozer. If you're that deep you're better off with Gilmour's three solo albums, especially the first two, before you do Division Bell.

Ah, you're one of those, my opinion is better than yours types. Gotcha.

I saw PF live for the first time in 1987, what do I know? :confusedshrug:

andgar923
05-12-2014, 10:10 PM
*chills*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPXWKO-EBgc

DeuceWallaces
05-12-2014, 10:11 PM
Some people like The Final Cut, but The Final Cut is to Floyd as what Slash said about the Spaghetti Incident: "That's the sound of Guns n' Roses breaking up".

There are two singles off of A Momentary Lapse of Reason; it's worth listening too. If you've got a hard on for classic Floyd sound but are sick of the classics you can listen to Gilmour's first two solo albums; both of which are good. Has a self titled from the band years and the About Face which is from after their break up. His solo album from 2006 is good too, but it's very mellow as he's getting old.

DeuceWallaces
05-12-2014, 10:11 PM
Ah, you're one of those, my opinion is better than yours types. Gotcha.

I saw PF live for the first time in 1987, what do I know? :confusedshrug:

I don't care if you've seen them 30 times, that album is a snooze-fest and just poor overall.

Crystallas
05-12-2014, 10:14 PM
I don't care if you've seen them 30 times, that album is a snooze-fest.
Then snooze all you want. I disagree. Of everything mentioned in this thread, I just added something else to the list. And it's a great album, I enjoy it, and I don't snooze through it. What you do while listening to music is your own business.

DeuceWallaces
05-12-2014, 10:16 PM
I get it, your opinion is better than mine.

You danced all night listening the Division Bell, lol.

BasedTom
05-12-2014, 10:50 PM
Meddle was their best work. **** that Seamus song for being on an otherwise flawless album.

Syd's Floyd was great but his contribution was probably overrated.

gigantes
05-12-2014, 10:57 PM
Some people like The Final Cut, but The Final Cut is to Floyd as what Slash said about the Spaghetti Incident: "That's the sound of Guns n' Roses breaking up".

There are two singles off of A Momentary Lapse of Reason; it's worth listening too. If you've got a hard on for classic Floyd sound but are sick of the classics you can listen to Gilmour's first two solo albums; both of which are good. Has a self titled from the band years and the About Face which is from after their break up. His solo album from 2006 is good too, but it's very mellow as he's getting old.
i had the final cut on vinyl and couldn't recycle that POS fast enough. i read your comment earlier that it was B-stuff from the wall sessions, and it made perfect sense. lots of pomp and little substance.

thx-- i'll check out those singles. TBH i'm bored stiff of the floyd, but just curious enough for one last sampling, perhaps.


re: meddle,
i was watching some bruce lee film one time (enter the dragon?) and was blown away that they used a track from meddle for the penultimate fight scene music. really cool and really hilarious at the same time.


random side note-- i saw some recent pictures of waters and he went from gangly-looking freak to suave-looking, silver-haired dude... sort of the most interesting man type. then i saw some recent footage of gilmour and noticed that he'd gone from 70's heartthrob to 100-yr old man. talk about some reversals.

gigantes
05-12-2014, 11:07 PM
Meddle was their best work. **** that Seamus song for being on an otherwise flawless album.

Syd's Floyd was great but his contribution was probably overrated.
yea, i've rarely seen someone get such adulation for such a relatively minor contribution to a group. i mean, sure, barrett was a co-founder and wrote some minor psychedelic hits and stuff, but otherwise he was a huge PITA and they couldn't get rid of that asshole fast enough. almost all their best stuff dates after he left, in any case.


but i'm going to have to try and wrap my head around how someone could possibly consider meddle better than the wall, dark side, wish you were here, etc. i mean it's a fine album, but... just, wow.

andgar923
05-12-2014, 11:36 PM
yea, i've rarely seen someone get such adulation for such a relatively minor contribution to a group. i mean, sure, barrett was a co-founder and wrote some minor psychedelic hits and stuff, but otherwise he was a huge PITA and they couldn't get rid of that asshole fast enough. almost all their best stuff dates after he left, in any case.



I never understood people's adulation with him either. Syd's best contribution to Pink Floyd was inspiring them to write about him.