Magic Johnson" Your The Best Player in the World" (LeBron James)

[lilojmayo]

hope kobe doesn't hear this. Magic just said it in the post game. He looked like he was about to have a seizure talking about LeBron he was like a gospel peacher. :lol

[nbastatus]

hope kobe doesn't hear this. Magic just said it in the post game. He looked like he was about to have a seizure talking about LeBron he was like a gospel peacher. :lol
He said it many times today during the half time.

[Marv_Albert]

It's true right now.

[Swaggin916]

Yea he was like that when talking about the Lakers struggles too... he is such a homer lol he is trying to send a message to Kobe and the Lakers.

[Dave3]

Are we seriously going to have a thread every time anyone involved in the NBA says "LeBron is the best" or "Kobe is the best"? This is getting retarded.

[konex]

Magic seems pretty giddy that he Lakers are struggling. I guess he doesn't want Kobe to get #5 :roll: :roll:

[Dave3]

Why should kobe give a sh!t?....This is about Champiosnship titles, not "Best player in the game Titles"...

Anyway...LeBron>>Kobe..FACT.
I think you quoted the wrong person. Swaggin was the one mentioning that this was to motivate Kobe.

[lilojmayo]

Are we seriously going to have a thread every time anyone involved in the NBA says "LeBron is the best" or "Kobe is the best"? This is getting retarded.

He just didn't say that. He was slurping LeBron to the max. hopefully it goes up on youtube or something. Like Mike Wilbon was like calm down Magic. I was laughing, wasn't expecting him to go so hard.

[Jr Llaban]

So damn true, LeBron is amazing.

[Qwik Fut]

LeBron James is the best player in the league, hands down. Kobe couldn't hold his jock-strap right now.

[Hiei]

I am sure Kobe cares much less about this than most people on the forum.

[Batz]

Omg, Magic has common sense!?

[1987_Lakers]

Anyone who thinks Kobe is better than LeBron right now is a complete dumbass and this is coming from a laker fan.

[Myth]

Kobe has bigger problems to worry about than what Magic said.

[zORi]

I am sure Kobe cares much less about this than most people on the forum.

Me too, I don't even know why people bother with this anymore.

It's worn out, you barely even see the puppet commercials anymore.

But I know how Magic (and pretty much any analyst) can get when they are speaking about how perfect they think Lebron is.....

What is it about him that seems to make people lose control over themselves?

I remember when Mark Jackson said Lebron should've been Finals MVP just because he took that 07 Cavs team to the Finals or something like that.

Despite not winning the series or even one game. SMH...

[King Lebron LBJ]

Magic said this for ages now....

[HisAirness3]

At this point, Kobe should be honored if people consider him a better player than Kevin Durant.

[DuMa]

just waiting for some kobe stan logic where they say magic is a kobe hater.

[thejumpa]

Magic is a legend....has 5 rings....and owns part of the Lakers. He can say whatever he wants. Especially if it's the truth.

Honestly, I like hearing other superstar/legends opinions on players. I would LOVE to hear MJ's thoughts on LeBron...especially after he sees him completely dominate like he did today.

[branslowski]

I think you quoted the wrong person. Swaggin was the one mentioning that this was to motivate Kobe.

My fault bro...I didn't mean to quote at all....I liked your post and at the same time I was answering the OP....Sorry bout that.

[branslowski]

Why should kobe give a sh!t?....This is about Champiosnship titles, not "Best player in the game Titles"...

Anyway...LeBron>>Kobe..FAC

[Pha Q]

Magic is a legend....has 5 rings....and owns part of the Lakers. He can say whatever he wants. Especially if it's the truth.

Honestly, I like hearing other superstar/legends opinions on players. I would LOVE to hear MJ's thoughts on LeBron...especially after he sees him completely dominate like he did today.


Its funny because an hurt kobe bryant (fingers, ankles, knees) even kobe wont admit that those are bothering him is still better than 99% of the players in the NBA.....A healthy kobe is better than if not equal to lebronze

[Pha Q]

At this point, Kobe should be honored if people consider him a better player than Kevin Durant.


LOL.....KD has ALOT of prove b4 you can say he is better than kobe.....you all have SHORT TERM memories....its funny

[Jr Llaban]

Magic is a legend....has 5 rings....and owns part of the Lakers. He can say whatever he wants. Especially if it's the truth.

Honestly, I like hearing other superstar/legends opinions on players. I would LOVE to hear MJ's thoughts on LeBron...especially after he sees him completely dominate like he did today.

People on this forum seem to thing that MJ doesn't like Bron for some reason. MJ probably doesn't, but i wanna ask if anyone has ever seen an article or video or anything in which MJ talks about James

[King Lebron LBJ]

Its funny because an hurt kobe bryant (fingers, ankles, knees) even kobe wont admit that those are bothering him is still better than 99% of the players in the NBA.....A healthy kobe is better than if not equal to lebronze

Even if heathly no Kobe isn't better or equal.

[Myth]

Its funny because an hurt kobe bryant (fingers, ankles, knees) even kobe wont admit that those are bothering him is still better than 99% of the players in the NBA.....A healthy kobe is better than if not equal to lebronze

I agree with the first half of your post.

[Pha Q]

People on this forum seem to thing that MJ doesn't like Bron for some reason. MJ probably doesn't, but i wanna ask if anyone has ever seen an article or video or anything in which MJ talks about James


The reason why JORDAN doesnt like LEBRONZE is because LEBRONZE called himself and alot of people also called him the "KING" before he did anything in the NBA...if you look at an interview on OPRAH with JORDAN and BARKLEY, even jordan said that he doesnt like the fact how "YOUNG STARS" which he was talking about "LEBRONZE and CARMELLO" are getting BIG ass contracts for all the HYPE they got out of HIGH school and COLLEGE...before he even proved anything....JORDAN, KOBE had to earn there respect in the league...

[thejumpa]

People on this forum seem to thing that MJ doesn't like Bron for some reason. MJ probably doesn't, but i wanna ask if anyone has ever seen an article or video or anything in which MJ talks about James

There was an piece posted on here a while ago talking about LeBron and the reason for his number change. It had some very interesting points that actually make sense. Not to mention, when they asked MJ about LeBron winning a ring in his 7th year(stupid question), he didn't really give any words of encouragement. In fact, he seemed a little annoyed.

Of course they will never ask MJ this because they probably already have an idea of what he would say...

[Dave3]

My fault bro...I didn't mean to quote at all....I liked your post and at the same time I was answering the OP....Sorry bout that.
Oh no, it's fine lol. I assumed there was some accident in the quoting or something.

[godofgods]

LOL @ Magic trying to motivate Kobe.

[Lebron23]

Best Player in the Universe.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[RazorBaLade]

LOL @ Magic trying to motivate Kobe.

ahha I know right

[Kingwillball]

Magic Said Lebron will be the Best Player for the next 15 years..Listen I am a Big LBJ fan but that is Overboard as I don't think he will be the Best player in NBA when he's 40 or even playing anymore for that Matter. However, He could be the Best Player for the Next 5 to 7 years.

[Pha Q]

Best Player in the Universe.

:applause: :applause: :applause:


keep telling that to yourself man....(if kobe didnt have any injuries ailing him) he would be probably the best....plus lebronze is younger than kobe....and NEVER had ANY injuries to slow him down YET....wait til lebronze gets older and can't use his athleticism anymore....lets see if he can knock his shots down...(lebronze doesnt have a decent post game) LOL :roll: :roll: :roll:

[NBASTATMAN]

hope kobe doesn't hear this. Magic just said it in the post game. He looked like he was about to have a seizure talking about LeBron he was like a gospel peacher. :lol


Magic changes his mind more than he changes his underwear... Wade is the best in the world...

[branslowski]

Magic changes his mind more than he changes his underwear... Wade is the best in the world...

Sarcasm?

[FCN]

Lebron

Durant

Wade
'Mello
Kobe

[Pha Q]

so many fans on LEBRONZE JOCK its funny....cant wait til CLEVELAND loses......EAST aint shit besides CELTICS, ORLANDO...so CLEVELAND better make it into the FINALS....while on the WEST....#1 - #8 is better than 2-8 on the EAST

[Pha Q]

Lebron

Durant

Wade
'Mello
Kobe


nope...lemme fix that.....

Lebron/kobe (healthy)








wade/melo/kobe (with finger, knees, and ankles)

durant

[Lebron23]

keep telling that to yourself man....(if kobe didnt have any injuries ailing him) he would be probably the best....plus lebronze is younger than kobe....and NEVER had ANY injuries to slow him down YET....wait til lebronze gets older and can't use his athleticism anymore....lets see if he can knock his shots down...(lebronze doesnt have a decent post game) LOL :roll: :roll: :roll:

Welcome to my ignore list.


Anyone who thinks Kobe is better than LeBron right now is a complete dumbass and this is coming from a laker fan.

This

[jstern]

Its funny because an hurt kobe bryant (fingers, ankles, knees) even kobe wont admit that those are bothering him is still better than 99% of the players in the NBA.....A healthy kobe is better than if not equal to lebronze

Lebron is better than Kobe at any point in Kobe's career. I haven't seen anyone dominate like this since Jordan.

[zORi]

Lebron is better than Kobe at any point in Kobe's career. I haven't seen anyone dominate like this since Jordan.

I wish I had a dollar for every time I heard someone say this.

How about Shaq? Shaq was uber-dominant.

Magic said Lebron will be the best player for the next 15 years?

Dammit, I swear you can't believe anything any of these analysts say about Lebron because they all act like they have crushes on him. I mean, they are openly biased. Damn.

[Kingwillball]

so many fans on LEBRONZE JOCK its funny....cant wait til CLEVELAND loses......EAST aint shit besides CELTICS, ORLANDO...so CLEVELAND better make it into the FINALS....while on the WEST....#1 - #8 is better than 2-8 on the EAST


Don't Think so..Orlando Better than Anybody out West..Same with Cavs..Boston Better than alot of the Teams also.

[Pha Q]

Welcome to my ignore list.



This


thats fine....plus I just said "A HEALTHY" kobe is still the same if not better than lebronze....I didnt say kobe now...he's injured...and he doesnt even mention that at all...nobody would know hes injured unless you've been watching basketball....I highly doubt lebronze would still play with a broken finger for 2 seasons without getting surgery....

[thejumpa]

As much as I love LeBron, lets be real here. A healthy Kobe Bryant is virtually unguardable when he gets hot....just like LeBron. They dominate equally in my eyes but it's LeBrons size and presence that makes people flip out. The guy is all over the place 24/7 and never stops.

[che guevara]

Magic Said Lebron will be the Best Player for the next 15 years..Listen I am a Big LBJ fan but that is Overboard as I don't think he will be the Best player in NBA when he's 40 or even playing anymore for that Matter. However, He could be the Best Player for the Next 5 to 7 years.
I think he was taking a shot at Kenny Smith, who said Durant would be the best player in 3 years. Magic is smart enough to know that he can't be the best player at age 40.

[King Lebron LBJ]

I wish I had a dollar for every time I heard someone say this.

How about Shaq? Shaq was uber-dominant.

Magic said Lebron will be the best player for the next 15 years?

Dammit, I swear you can't believe anything any of these analysts say about Lebron because they all act like they have crushes on him. I mean, they are openly biased. Damn.

As a perimeter player nobody has been this domiant since MJ.

[zORi]

As a perimeter player nobody has been this domiant since MJ.

That sounds more reasonable.

[sixer6ad]

keep telling that to yourself man....(if kobe didnt have any injuries ailing him) he would be probably the best....plus lebronze is younger than kobe....and NEVER had ANY injuries to slow him down YET....wait til lebronze gets older and can't use his athleticism anymore....lets see if he can knock his shots down...(lebronze doesnt have a decent post game) LOL :roll: :roll: :roll:

The way to win respect on here and make people feel you know your game is to avoid writing posts like the one you just wrote:
"...if Kobe..."
"...probably be the best..."
"...slow him down YET.."
"...wait till he gets older..."

Your emotional look at "Lebronze" may have you hitting the keyboards pretty firmly and making you believe you're proving a point, but you better bring it stronger than ifs, maybes, yets, and just wait. People are into the now...into the way it really is...and not into the would bes. You know what they say, "If my aunt had ba---, she'd be my uncle." It's just not that close for MVP right now. You could write, "hate his game...hate his face...he's going to NY...etc.", but just stay away from trying to make people believe he's not that good.

[Pha Q]

The way to win respect on here and make people feel you know your game is to avoid writing posts like the one you just wrote:
"...if Kobe..."
"...probably be the best..."
"...slow him down YET.."
"...wait till he gets older..."

Your emotional look at "Lebronze" may have you hitting the keyboards pretty firmly and making you believe you're proving a point, but you better bring it stronger than ifs, maybes, yets, and just wait. People are into the now...into the way it really is...and not into the would bes. You know what they say, "If my aunt had ba---, she'd be my uncle." It's just not that close for MVP right now. You could write, "hate his game...hate his face...he's going to NY...etc.", but just stay away from trying to make people believe he's not that good.

Ill agree with what you said...its just funny how people have SHORT term memory....since kobe is struggling everybody is saying "hes done" remember early in the season kobe was dominating they say LEBRON is head over shoulders above everybody...a healthy kobe would be right there...UNSTOPPABLE when hot...same with LEBRONZE

[NBASTATMAN]

so many fans on LEBRONZE JOCK its funny....cant wait til CLEVELAND loses......EAST aint shit besides CELTICS, ORLANDO...so CLEVELAND better make it into the FINALS....while on the WEST....#1 - #8 is better than 2-8 on the EAST


Orlando in my opinion is the best team in the playoffs... Second I go with the Lakers.. But the Lakers can be hurt by speed... The Cavs are better than Denver at this point cuz of the coaching problem but are going to get hurt by any team that has good balance, inside and outside scoring... The CAvs cannot defend the pick and roll and even with more talent have problems winning games without Lebron... Boston can also beat the Cavs.. But only if The Cavs have no other player but Lebron really step up...

[Pha Q]

As much as I love LeBron, lets be real here. A healthy Kobe Bryant is virtually unguardable when he gets hot....just like LeBron. They dominate equally in my eyes but it's LeBrons size and presence that makes people flip out. The guy is all over the place 24/7 and never stops.


I agree 100% with that....lebron's size and strength are what makes him heard to guard...without that body...it would be different...give it 3 years....Kevin Durant will be better than lebronze

[NBASTATMAN]

As a perimeter player nobody has been this domiant since MJ.


TRUE.. But MJ had Pippen.. Lebron doesn't have a true number two.. I don't see them winning a title without one.. Unless Jamison or Shaq play at a high level throughout the playoffs...

[NBASTATMAN]

I agree 100% with that....lebron's size and strength are what makes him heard to guard...without that body...it would be different...give it 3 years....Kevin Durant will be better than lebronze


Kevin Durant will be a great one.. Can't wait to those two go at it...

[Kobe4life]

magic johnson's immune system has more defense than the lakers. :)

[Lebron23]

TRUE.. But MJ had Pippen.. Lebron doesn't have a true number two.. I don't see them winning a title without one.. Unless Jamison or Shaq play at a high level throughout the playoffs...


Love to see the Cavs acquire Iguodala in the off season. He's gonna be LeBron James' 2nd scoring option next year.

Great game from Mo Williams, and Antawn Jamison today.

[King Lebron LBJ]

TRUE.. But MJ had Pippen.. Lebron doesn't have a true number two.. I don't see them winning a title without one.. Unless Jamison or Shaq play at a high level throughout the playoffs...

Lebron doesn't need a superstar number two. Jamison has been quailty so far in the playoffs and overall the Cavs have so a balenced roster Lebron doesn't need a great 2nd option. He has the perfect role players to win the title. The Cavs have the best team and should win the title barring a meltdown.

[Pha Q]

Lebron doesn't need a superstar number two. Jamison has been quailty so far in the playoffs and overall the Cavs have so a balenced roster Lebron doesn't need a great 2nd option. He has the perfect role players to win the title. The Cavs have the best team and should win the title barring a meltdown.


Good luck with your CAVS...there going to need it...if lebron struggles....nobody else will step up and the "BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD" doesnt fake that he got hit in the head when someone steals the ball from him lol lebron is funny

[Lebron23]

Tyreke Evans will be a better player than Kobe Bryant and Kevin Durant in less than 3 years.

[Batz]

Tyreke Evans will be a better player than Kobe Bryant and Kevin Durant in less than 3 years.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Next Carter at best.

[thejumpa]

^^^^wrong thing to say buddy^^^

[Lebron23]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Next Carter at best.


Next LeBron James.

Sacramento Kings vs. Cleveland Cavaliers 2013 NBA Finals. ( Battle of the Oscar Robertson clones)

[Batz]

Next LeBron James
*I will not trolled, I will not trolled, I will not trolled, I will not trolled, I will not trolled, I will not trolled, I will not trolled, I will not trolled...

[King Lebron LBJ]

Good luck with your CAVS...there going to need it...if lebron struggles....nobody else will step up and the "BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD" doesnt fake that he got hit in the head when someone steals the ball from him lol lebron is funny

Lebron never struggles, thats the whole point. He rarely has bad games and if he does he always does other things to win.

[Diesel J]

Its funny because an hurt kobe bryant (fingers, ankles, knees) even kobe wont admit that those are bothering him is still better than 99% of the players in the NBA.....A healthy kobe is better than if not equal to lebronze

Nope. A heathly typical Kobe is at best a 27-30 (22 fga's) ppg on 45 or 46% FG 5 rbs 5 ast

typical lebron is atleast 28-30 (20 fga's) ppg on 48% Fg 7-8 rbs 7-9 ast

[Pha Q]

Lebron never struggles, thats the whole point. He rarely has bad games and if he does he always does other things to win.


Ill agree with you.....but LBJ hasnt played as many games as kobe has....well jus wait and see....

[ZenMaster]

Lebron never struggles, thats the whole point. He rarely has bad games and if he does he always does other things to win.

Not scoring doesn't equal a bad game. When he doesn't score but do more of other things he still has a good game.

[Kingwillball]

The Other Bs Crap Theory Kobe Lovers/media still like to use is Well Lebron is the Best Player but Kobe is the best Closer..Nope Lebron is the Best at that also..He can take games over at the end like better than anyone else and as the Playoffs continue Most will come to realize that..

[NUPE_1911]

Bron been better than Kobe for like the last three to four years. Last year both Wade and Bron were better than Kobe. Kobe is just getting old. It happens to the best of them.

[King Lebron LBJ]

Not scoring doesn't equal a bad game. When he doesn't score but do more of other things he still has a good game.

Exactly, one of the reasons what makes Cavs so tough.

[Lebron23]

Magic Johnson, and Larry Bird already said that LeBron is the best player in the world.

Jordan also said that LeBron has the potential to become the greatest player of all time.

Magic, Bird, and Jordan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lakers trolls.

[BallsOut]

Magic Johnson, and Larry Bird already said that LeBron is the best player in the world.

Jordan also said that LeBron has the potential to become the greatest player of all time.

Magic, Bird, and Jordan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lakers trolls.

Jordan also said Kobe > Lebron.

Wow, can you make it any easier?

[Lebron23]

Ballsout, Ballsout, Ballsout

Get Kobe's balls out of your mouth.

[Simple Jack]

thats fine....plus I just said "A HEALTHY" kobe is still the same if not better than lebronze....I didnt say kobe now...he's injured...and he doesnt even mention that at all...nobody would know hes injured unless you've been watching basketball....I highly doubt lebronze would still play with a broken finger for 2 seasons without getting surgery....

I highly doubt LeBron would shoot 30+ times a game if he was playing with 2 broken fingers.

Reply to me when Kobe has a decent playoff game this year. In fact, reply to me when Kobe posts a better game than LeBron has the past 2.

[Pha Q]

I highly doubt LeBron would shoot 30+ times a game if he was playing with 2 broken fingers.

Reply to me when Kobe has a decent playoff game this year. In fact, reply to me when Kobe posts a better game than LeBron has the past 2.


I agree that he wouldnt shoot 30+ times with 2 broken fingers.......because HE WOULDNT PLAY :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[BallsOut]

Nope. A heathly typical Kobe is at best a 27-30 (22 fga's) ppg on 45 or 46% FG 5 rbs 5 ast

typical lebron is atleast 28-30 (20 fga's) ppg on 48% Fg 7-8 rbs 7-9 ast

a typical Kobe wins championships

http://www.7milesdown.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/kobe4rings.jpg

a typical Lebron takes an early vacation celebrating his stats in the offseason

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/310120/news_lebron-james-check-my-stats-1.jpg

[Freshprince619]

Magic should worry about Kobe passing him on the all time list......Wait according to Jerry West he already did :oldlol:

[Freshprince619]

Magic Johnson, and Larry Bird already said that LeBron is the best player in the world.

Jordan also said that LeBron has the potential to become the greatest player of all time.

Magic, Bird, and Jordan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lakers trolls.
:roll: :roll: Link? oh wait there is none

[Pha Q]

Everybody knows that lebron wouldnt play with 2 broken fingers....he would go get surgery and take time off :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Lebron23]

Magic should worry about Kobe passing him on the all time list......Wait according to Jerry West he already did :oldlol:


You are an idiot.

3x NBA MVP > 1x NBA MVP
3x NBA Finals MVP > 1x NBA Finals MVP

Magic is a top 5 player of all time. The Lakers never missed the playoffs when he was the no.1 option of his team.

[zORi]

a typical Kobe wins championships

http://www.7milesdown.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/kobe4rings.jpg

a typical Lebron takes an early vacation celebrating his stats in the offseason

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/310120/news_lebron-james-check-my-stats-1.jpg
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Lebron23]

:roll: :roll: Link? oh wait there is none


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129391

[jstern]

I wish I had a dollar for every time I heard someone say this.

How about Shaq? Shaq was uber-dominant.

Magic said Lebron will be the best player for the next 15 years?

Dammit, I swear you can't believe anything any of these analysts say about Lebron because they all act like they have crushes on him. I mean, they are openly biased. Damn.
Obviously Magic doesn't really think Lebron is going to be the best for 15 years. Obviously he was just trying to make a point of how good Lebron is. Look at it this way, imagine Kobe had an amazing game, and made a lot of shots. Imagine someone who saw the game telling a person who didn't see the game how great Kobe was, and says something like, "Kobe hit like 50 shots in row." Obviously Kobe didn't really hit 50 shots in a row, but in trying to express how Kobe was in that game, he uses a much bigger number than it was.

[Simple Jack]

You are an idiot.

3x NBA MVP > 1x NBA MVP
3x NBA Finals MVP > 1x NBA Finals MVP

Magic is a top 5 player of all time. The Lakers never missed the playoffs when he was the no.1 option of his team.

Ignore the trolls.

Rings are overrated. They must be taken in context. Had Pippen won another ring without Jordan, is he a top 5 player of all-time? 7 rings would say so. Until you look closer and realize the rings he won in the context that they were won. By the same logic, KG was a better player 2 years ago than in 04. Anyone want to try to argue this point? I don't think so.

Stop posting Kobe ring pictures in an attack on LeBron as if it isn't widely known that Kobe has ALWAYS had the better team; by a considerable margin. Also, stop acting as if LeBron hasn't outperformed Kobe on a night by night basis for 2 years now.

There seems to be this Kobe vortex where arguments that apply (in their minds) to why Kobe is better than LeBron, don't apply to someone else being better than Kobe. Any evidence given is disregarded, yet used when it benefits their side. Also, we aren't comparing careers here. Kobe has obviously had the more decorated career, but that doesn't mean he's currently a better player. Should I post Shaq's ring pictures when someone says Dwight is better than him? This would be idiotic right?

You have to be an idiot to think Kobe is better than LeBron at this point. At this point, you are comparing Kobe, who has been awful thus far these playoffs, to LeBron who has been phenomenal. There is no comparison.

[macpierce]

lebron is the best player in the world right now, impossible to guard one on one with his scoring ability and great passing ability. hurts to say OUCH

[Freshprince619]

You are an idiot.

3x NBA MVP > 1x NBA MVP
3x NBA Finals MVP > 1x NBA Finals MVP

Magic is a top 5 player of all time. The Lakers never missed the playoffs when he was the no.1 option of his team.
Let me guess the greatest judge of talent ever is stupid too??
Jerry West actually watched Both they careers not someone who just googled Magics wikipedia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlyZ8wVCq0

:pimp: :pimp:

Looks like your the idiot

[puppychili]

Ignore the trolls.

Rings are overrated. They must be taken in context. Had Pippen won another ring without Jordan, is he a top 5 player of all-time? 7 rings would say so. Until you look closer and realize the rings he won in the context that they were won. By the same logic, KG was a better player 2 years ago than in 04. Anyone want to try to argue this point? I don't think so.

Stop posting Kobe ring pictures in an attack on LeBron as if it isn't widely known that Kobe has ALWAYS had the better team; by a considerable margin. Also, stop acting as if LeBron hasn't outperformed Kobe on a night by night basis for 2 years now.

There seems to be this Kobe vortex where arguments that apply (in their minds) to why Kobe is better than LeBron, don't apply to someone else being better than Kobe. Any evidence given is disregarded, yet used when it benefits their side. Also, we aren't comparing careers here. Kobe has obviously had the more decorated career, but that doesn't mean he's currently a better player. Should I post Shaq's ring pictures when someone says Dwight is better than him? This would be idiotic right?

You have to be an idiot to think Kobe is better than LeBron at this point. At this point, you are comparing Kobe, who has been awful thus far these playoffs, to LeBron who has been phenomenal. There is no comparison.

Man if this was the late 80's/early 90's Laker fans would be putting up pics of Magic and Jordan in the same context. They would do it for the same reason then that they do now. They're scared. While they begrudgingly admit that Kobe won't pass Jordan, they took pride in the fact that they could say that Kobe is the greatest player this century. And much like Magic, before Kobe is even retired someone better is coming along.

If Cavs win it alll this year, get ready for 10000000000000 posts about "The weak pansy East vs the tough as nails, greatest conference ever West."

[EllisGW]

who cares

[NUPE_1911]

a typical Kobe wins championships

http://www.7milesdown.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/kobe4rings.jpg

a typical Lebron takes an early vacation celebrating his stats in the offseason

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/310120/news_lebron-james-check-my-stats-1.jpg

LoL @ this post!

[Dave3]

Let me guess the greatest judge of talent ever is stupid too??
Jerry West actually watched Both they careers not someone who just googled Magics wikipedia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlyZ8wVCq0

:pimp: :pimp:

Looks like your the idiot
So what West's opinion matters the most? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB2Wj6EZfGs

Stop being close minded and formulate your own opinions.

[EllisGW]

LoL @ this post!


it would have been funnier if he showed duncan this is old news.

you cant compare a guys career accomplishments to guy who has been in the league 6 or 7 years more.

[D-Rose]

What is this 2008? Is this still even a debate?

I'm a big Kobe fan and obviously LeBron is a better player now. I'd take LeBron with the current Laker squad than current Kobe to be honest. though of course Kobe does have 4 rings to his credit and he knows how to win. Hopefully he takes the summer off and gets surgery.

[NBASTATMAN]

Lebron doesn't need a superstar number two. Jamison has been quailty so far in the playoffs and overall the Cavs have so a balenced roster Lebron doesn't need a great 2nd option. He has the perfect role players to win the title. The Cavs have the best team and should win the title barring a meltdown.

We will see what you write when your team loses a series at one point in the playoffs

[NBASTATMAN]

Good luck with your CAVS...there going to need it...if lebron struggles....nobody else will step up and the "BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD" doesnt fake that he got hit in the head when someone steals the ball from him lol lebron is funny


I agree.... Kobe can struggle and his team is still going to win some games.. Duncan can struggle and his team can win games... Dhoward only needs to play defense on some nights and his team wins but If Lebron struggles I doubt this Cavs team can win...

[King Lebron LBJ]

We will see what you write when your team loses a series at one point in the playoffs

If Cavs win I will make no excuses, there are none this year. I just think it is Lebron's year and this years Cavs is the best team Lebron has ever had. All the main weaknessess have been filled. Doesn't mean I don't think they can beat beat. They clearly can but I'm confident. They to me are the best team.

Guess we will have to say how things pan out.

[NBASTATMAN]

Tyreke Evans will be a better player than Kobe Bryant and Kevin Durant in less than 3 years.


I doubt that..

[King Lebron LBJ]

I agree.... Kobe can struggle and his team is still going to win some games.. Duncan can struggle and his team can win games... Dhoward only needs to play defense on some nights and his team wins but If Lebron struggles I doubt this Cavs team can win...

Thats the thing Lebron never struggles offensively thats why he is so good. Even if he shoots bad he will ALWAYS help the team one way or another. Jamison in means another option who can take the scoring load.

[NBASTATMAN]

If Cavs win I will make no excuses, there are none this year. I just think it is Lebron's year and this years Cavs is the best team Lebron has ever had. All the main weaknessess have been filled. Doesn't mean I don't think they can beat beat. They clearly can but I'm confident. They to me are the best team.

Guess we will have to say how things pan out.


I think they are good but they have no chance to win unless Shaq gets back to the form he had when both Mo and Dante were out... That will be hard...

[King Lebron LBJ]

I think they are good but they have no chance to win unless Shaq gets back to the form he had when both Mo and Dante were out... That will be hard...

Cavs don't need Shaq all that much. They just need himto clog the paint. The Cavs have such a deep team that Shaq's scoring isn't needed. All he needs to do is rebounding, clog the paint and defend Dwight and other possible bigs which he will do. Cavs don't need much from Shaq to win the title.

[Freshprince619]

Cavs don't need Shaq all that much. They just need himto clog the paint. The Cavs have such a deep team that Shaq's scoring isn't needed. All he needs to do is rebounding, clog the paint and defend Dwight and other possible bigs which he will do. Cavs don't need much from Shaq to win the title.
Then why pay him 20 F*CKING MILLION DOLLARS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[King Lebron LBJ]

Then why pay him 20 F*CKING MILLION DOLLARS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Last time I checked they didn't give him that contract :lol

[MakeHistory78]

Kobe Bryant is a great player and perhaps the second greatest shooting guard in the history of the game.But he is nowhere near to MJ.Not even close.

I watched Michael Jordan's career from the start to end and Kobe is nowhere near to MJ.

LeBron James is by far the best player in the world last two years.He is the best player I've ever seen since 1998.
LeBron has a small chance to challenge MJ as the Greatest player ever.And that's coming from a big MJ fan.

Kobe?No chance to challenge MJ!
Kobe was never as good as LeBron is the last 2 years.Not even close!

Kids-Kobe fans stop trolling..

[Freshprince619]

Kobe Bryant is a great player and perhaps the second greatest shooting guard in the history of the game.But he is nowhere near to MJ.Not even close.

I watched Michael Jordan's career from the start to end and Kobe is nowhere near to MJ.

LeBron James is by far the best player in the world last two years.He is the best player I've ever seen since 1998.
LeBron has a small chance to challenge MJ as the Greatest player ever.And that's coming from a big MJ fan.

Kobe?No chance to challenge MJ!
Kobe was never as good as LeBron is the last 2 years.Not even close!

Kids-Kobe fans stop trolling..
Already better then prime kobe,prime duncan, prime shaq?

Talk about Jordan/LBJ trolls :rolleyes:

So sad you embarrass the Jordan name

what a shame

[Freshprince619]

Last time I checked they didn't give him that contract :lol
Last time i checked thats what they're paying him

[King Lebron LBJ]

Last time i checked thats what they're paying him

Until july anyway

Shaq was brought in to help guard guys like Dwight, Bynum, Gasol e.t.c and basically clog the paint. To me if he brings home a title then it is certainly worth it.

[MakeHistory78]

Already better then prime kobe,prime duncan, prime shaq?

Talk about Jordan/LBJ trolls :rolleyes:

So sad you embarrass the Jordan name

what a shame
For sure better than prime Kobe!For sure!
If he'll win it this year yes better than all of them.Shaq was a beast,Duncan was also very good but look LeBron's year...29.7/7.3/8.6..with 50.3%...Are you kidding me...One of the Greatest PER ever..

Yes he is the best...MJ is the GOAT and Kobe,Duncan,Shaq are nowhere near to MJ.
LeBron right now is far from MJ but he has a small chance to challenge him...

[Freshprince619]

For sure better than prime Kobe!For sure!
If he'll win it this year yes better than all of them.Shaq was a beast,Duncan was also very good but look LeBron's year...29.7/7.3/8.6..with 50.3%...Are you kidding me...One of the Greatest PER ever..

Yes he is the best...MJ is the GOAT and Kobe,Duncan,Shaq are nowhere near to MJ.
LeBron right now is far from MJ but he has a small chance to challenge him...
Talk about trolling :ohwell:

[MakeHistory78]

Talk about trolling :ohwell:
This the true my friend.
Trolling=all the young Kids in this board...

[zORi]

Already better then prime kobe,prime duncan, prime shaq?

Talk about Jordan/LBJ trolls :rolleyes:

So sad you embarrass the Jordan name

what a shame

Exactly.

To say that Kobe has and will never even come close to MJ and then in the same breath (or should I say post) say that Lebron can is just stupid.

[MakeHistory78]

Exactly.

To say that Kobe has and will never even come close to MJ and then in the same breath (or should I say post) say that Lebron can is just stupid.
Exactly what?
Yes Kobe isn't/wasn't even close to Michael!His best years are over and we watched his peak.Not even close to the GOAT and LeBron at least this year...

LeBron is 25 and he is damn good.So yes i give me him a chance!

[Freshprince619]

Exactly what?
Yes Kobe isn't/wasn't even close to Michael!His best years are over and we watched his peak.Not even close to the GOAT and LeBron at least this year...

LeBron is 25 and he is damn good.So yes i give me him a chance!
I hope your not 31 because your pretty damn illiterate

[Pha Q]

Exactly what?
Yes Kobe isn't/wasn't even close to Michael!His best years are over and we watched his peak.Not even close to the GOAT and LeBron at least this year...

LeBron is 25 and he is damn good.So yes i give me him a chance!


Your one the worst posters in here :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[RazorBaLade]

Exactly what?
Yes Kobe isn't/wasn't even close to Michael!His best years are over and we watched his peak.Not even close to the GOAT and LeBron at least this year...

LeBron is 25 and he is damn good.So yes i give me him a chance!


Let me explain something..

You're forgetting that everyone was saying the same things about kobe. When kobe was entering his peak. Kobe at 27 (equivalent to lbj at 25 minutes wise as far as I know or close) was scoring 81, going on 10 game streaks of scoring 40... 8 game streaks of 50.. It was insane. Everyone on the face of the planet when watching Kobe said the same things they are saying about Lebron now. To be honest at least from what I remember the hype was even more than what lbj has now. However circumstances change, and at some point you have to decide between stats and championships. Kobe put himself in a place to end up with 5-6 rings, where as he could have went for the stats and ended up with 4 max. When that question comes up to lebron (and I believe it is coming up this off season) will lebron choose the rings or the stats? Will lebron ask for an all star to guarantee contending for the next 5 years like Kobe did or will he be satisfied with losing in the east bracket for a couple years until his teammates develop (and I promise u, there will be a situation like this in lebrons career).

So in conclusion, we don't know who is gonna end up where on the all time list.. But right now, Kobe is higher than Lebron if both careers ended today and whoever wins this ring is making a MASSIVE push for t5 status.

[theguru]

Wow... Freshprince and Pha Q really need to get some p*ssy...

[lilojmayo]

who cares

This. Don't even know why I made the thread, I was shocked with how crazy Magic got, got so into it, like he was in a trans which really took me by surprise. Hopefully it goes up on youtube.

Never understood how "who is the best" talk are so popular among fans.

[Pha Q]

Wow... Freshprince and Pha Q really need to get some p*ssy...


I gotta girl so I get all the ***** I need dont even worry bout dat...I dont come here often as you can see.....I just came in here just to give my opinion...thats all..your the one that prolly needs to get sum p*ssy

[greymatter]

Looks like your the idiot

The irony never gets old.

[greymatter]

Wow... Freshprince and Pha Q really need to get some p*ssy...

I disagree. The gene pool doesn't need retards breeding.

[LA_Showtime]

This isn't thread worthy. Anyone who watches the NBA on a regular basis knows LeBron is better than Kobe.

[Pha Q]

I disagree. The gene pool doesn't need retards breeding.


lol...you guys are funny....I dont really come here often so I have a life outside of INSIDEHOOPS so to the person says I need p*ssy you prolly need help with getting p*ssy so im sorry to hear that...I gotta girl so I dont have to worry about that part..you know this thread has gone south when you guys have to knit pick that we need p*ssy when your the one that needs it :applause: :applause:

[lilojmayo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXDR-P9uICQ&playnext_from=TL&videos=1sQeOs4Kdy0

here's the video, magic got so into it you can tell he was obviously trying to motivate kobe..

[04mzwach]

Kobe is the better winner. Lebron is the better player. Phil Jackson is the better coach. Mike Brown is the worst of all of them.

[04mzwach]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXDR-P9uICQ&playnext_from=TL&videos=1sQeOs4Kdy0

here's the video, magic got so into it you can tell he was obviously trying to motivate kobe..
Wow! I've never seen Magic get that crazy. It must of been about Kobe. Now, I'm surprised that he didn't wear a Celtics championship hat and say "Lebron is the best the wuuuuuuuuuurl, baby, best in the wuuuuuuuuuuuurl, Anything is possible!! . . . -pulls hat off and dust shoulder off looking serious- ... for a young man."

[Dave3]

What does better "winner" even mean? That's honestly one of the weirdest labels I've ever seen. The better played is the better winner. One player can't be better at basketball while the other is better at winning at basketball. The one who can affect wins more is the better player. LeBron is that. Just because one player is put in a different situation and wins doesn't make him a "winner." That's just a vague label..

[asdf1990]

Let me explain something..

You're forgetting that everyone was saying the same things about kobe. When kobe was entering his peak. Kobe at 27 (equivalent to lbj at 25 minutes wise as far as I know or close) was scoring 81, going on 10 game streaks of scoring 40... 8 game streaks of 50.. It was insane. Everyone on the face of the planet when watching Kobe said the same things they are saying about Lebron now. To be honest at least from what I remember the hype was even more than what lbj has now. However circumstances change, and at some point you have to decide between stats and championships. Kobe put himself in a place to end up with 5-6 rings, where as he could have went for the stats and ended up with 4 max. When that question comes up to lebron (and I believe it is coming up this off season) will lebron choose the rings or the stats? Will lebron ask for an all star to guarantee contending for the next 5 years like Kobe did or will he be satisfied with losing in the east bracket for a couple years until his teammates develop (and I promise u, there will be a situation like this in lebrons career).

So in conclusion, we don't know who is gonna end up where on the all time list.. But right now, Kobe is higher than Lebron if both careers ended today and whoever wins this ring is making a MASSIVE push for t5 status.

kobe didn't place himself to get 5-6 rings.kobe is always been blessed with having really skilled big men from the start of his career. i don't think any swing men in the history of the nba has been as lucky as kobe. yes he is good really good but where would he be right know if shaq wasn't there or they didn't get pau for kawme. Think about it for a minute and u will see how lucky kobe has been over the course of his career. He would end up like charles barkley in terms of all time list. Not all players get the luck kobe has/had.
Again i am not taking anything away from him one of the most lethal scorers and closers of all time.

[lilojmayo]

Wow! I've never seen Magic get that crazy. It must of been about Kobe. Now, I'm surprised that he didn't wear a Celtics championship hat and say "Lebron is the best the wuuuuuuuuuurl, baby, best in the wuuuuuuuuuuuurl, Anything is possible!! . . . -pulls hat off and dust shoulder off looking serious- ... for a young man."
\:oldlol: he might as well have.

[thejumpa]

Let me explain something..

You're forgetting that everyone was saying the same things about kobe. When kobe was entering his peak. Kobe at 27 (equivalent to lbj at 25 minutes wise as far as I know or close) was scoring 81, going on 10 game streaks of scoring 40... 8 game streaks of 50.. It was insane. Everyone on the face of the planet when watching Kobe said the same things they are saying about Lebron now. To be honest at least from what I remember the hype was even more than what lbj has now. However circumstances change, and at some point you have to decide between stats and championships. Kobe put himself in a place to end up with 5-6 rings, where as he could have went for the stats and ended up with 4 max. When that question comes up to lebron (and I believe it is coming up this off season) will lebron choose the rings or the stats? Will lebron ask for an all star to guarantee contending for the next 5 years like Kobe did or will he be satisfied with losing in the east bracket for a couple years until his teammates develop (and I promise u, there will be a situation like this in lebrons career).

So in conclusion, we don't know who is gonna end up where on the all time list.. But right now, Kobe is higher than Lebron if both careers ended today and whoever wins this ring is making a MASSIVE push for t5 status.

I agree that Kobe has the best shot (as of right now) of launching himself into a legitimate top 5/MJ comparison...but let's stop right there.

He could have went with stats and stayed at 4 rings? How do you figure? What does that even mean? He still LOVES to shoot and in a way, is still going for stats.

Kobe didn't place himself anywhere. Pau was gifted and that was the key to them winning...not Bynum, not Lamar, not anyone else. LeBron is no different...he wants great players to play around him. The difference is, there is no Pau out there that they can get for nothing. Jamison will do for now. It's also going to be interesting to see how Cleveland's talent develops...

[TROLL_HUNTER]

I agree that Kobe has the best shot (as of right now) of launching himself into a legitimate top 5/MJ comparison...but let's stop right there.

He could have went with stats and stayed at 4 rings? How do you figure? What does that even mean? He still LOVES to shoot and in a way, is still going for stats.

Kobe didn't place himself anywhere. Pau was gifted and that was the key to them winning...not Bynum, not Lamar, not anyone else. LeBron is no different...he wants great players to play around him. The difference is, there is no Pau out there that they can get for nothing. Jamison will do for now. It's also going to be interesting to see how Cleveland's talent develops...


quite true buddy, and even funnier is the little respect to Pau that being the mvp of the series so far everybody is talking about Kobe defense on Westbrook :lol I mean...thats what i call REAL LUCK (Kobe's)

No doubt Kobe is and has been one of the greatest. nobody can say no to that. but he bears no comparison to Lebron Today. they are just not at the same level. Actually NOBODY is at lebron's level. Lebron has not had a real talented team around him, thats all. making a "better-winner" label for Kobe out of that is the most absurd thing I have read in ages.

I have watched basketball for a few years already , like 25 at the very least, and the ONLY player that dominates all the aspects of the game almost as Jordan did is Lebron. it just takes to get your head out of Kobe's ass and watch some ball to realize this.

[wang4three]

I laugh because if Magic were to type this out, he'd use the wrong "you're" as well.

[lilojmayo]

I laugh because if Magic were to type this out, he'd use the wrong "you're" as well.

http://media.onsugar.com/files/ons2/319/3190281/45_2009/7bdbf23871e875b4_817585-grammar_nazi_logo_large.jpg

internet is serious business

[imlmf]

Lebron is better than Kobe at any point in Kobe's career. I haven't seen anyone dominate like this since Jordan.


shaq?

[AirJordan&Magic]

kobe didn't place himself to get 5-6 rings.kobe is always been blessed with having really skilled big men from the start of his career. i don't think any swing men in the history of the nba has been as lucky as kobe. yes he is good really good but where would he be right know if shaq wasn't there or they didn't get pau for kawme. Think about it for a minute and u will see how lucky kobe has been over the course of his career. He would end up like charles barkley in terms of all time list. Not all players get the luck kobe has/had.
Again i am not taking anything away from him one of the most lethal scorers and closers of all time.

I always laugh when idiots use the "skilled big man" excuse to diminish what Kobe has accomplished.....

Oscar Robertson spent the last 4 seasons of his career with not only the most skilled big man of all time, but ARGUABLY the greatest player of all time and wins only 1 championship yet this guy gets slobbed up to like 5th on the all time and no one mentions this.....
Lets not forget that he even spent his last 5 years on Cincinatti with Jerry Lucas, a guy who averaged over 20 ppgs and 20 rpg for the span of those 5 years and what does he do? HE MISSES THE PLAYOFFS 3 YEARS IN A ROW! Yet we never hear these clowns.

What about Magic who spent most of his career with Kareem?...Or Stockton?.....Comments like this is what has made me so defensive of guys like Kobe, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Tiger Woods, A.Rod, etc.
I have never seen an athlete who has had so many morons quick to diminish every aspect of his career.

[AirJordan&Magic]

Let me explain something..

You're forgetting that everyone was saying the same things about kobe. When kobe was entering his peak. Kobe at 27 (equivalent to lbj at 25 minutes wise as far as I know or close) was scoring 81, going on 10 game streaks of scoring 40... 8 game streaks of 50.. It was insane. Everyone on the face of the planet when watching Kobe said the same things they are saying about Lebron now. To be honest at least from what I remember the hype was even more than what lbj has now. However circumstances change, and at some point you have to decide between stats and championships. Kobe put himself in a place to end up with 5-6 rings, where as he could have went for the stats and ended up with 4 max. When that question comes up to lebron (and I believe it is coming up this off season) will lebron choose the rings or the stats? Will lebron ask for an all star to guarantee contending for the next 5 years like Kobe did or will he be satisfied with losing in the east bracket for a couple years until his teammates develop (and I promise u, there will be a situation like this in lebrons career).

So in conclusion, we don't know who is gonna end up where on the all time list.. But right now, Kobe is higher than Lebron if both careers ended today and whoever wins this ring is making a MASSIVE push for t5 status.

:applause: This is the most accurate post i've seen in this thread.
When Kobe went on that tear from 2005-07 when he was breaking records and accomplishing feats comparable to only Wilt, Elgin, and Mj.....the same talks we hear about LeBron having this potential to be GOAT was applied to Kobe.
The same thing even happened with Shaq back from 1993-1996.....Its about HYPE.

While I do think LeBron is EASILY the best in the game today, I find it laughable when I hear some homers seriously say things like "Kobe has never been as good as LeBron has been these past 2 years"......I find a hard time taking anyone who would make such an asinine statment like that serious. If people would really realize what Kobe was doing in that 2 year span, they would understand why I think statements like that is ridiculous in my opinion.

[NBASTATMAN]

:applause: This is the most accurate post i've seen in this thread.
When Kobe went on that tear from 2005-07 when he was breaking records and accomplishing feats comparable to only Wilt, Elgin, and Mj.....the same talks we hear about LeBron having this potential to be GOAT was applied to Kobe.
The same thing even happened with Shaq back from 1993-1996.....Its about HYPE.

While I do think LeBron is EASILY the best in the game today, I find it laughable when I hear some homers seriously say things like "Kobe has never been as good as LeBron has been these past 2 years"......I find a hard time taking anyone who would make such an asinine statment like that serious. If people would really realize what Kobe was doing in that 2 year span, they would understand why I think statements like that is ridiculous in my opinion.

Kobe best two years could be compared to lEBRON's last two years but they were not as good.. Lebron has won at a much higher level.. ANd last year won 66 games with Mo as his best sidekick.. I have never seen Kobe or any other player do something like that... So no I don't think Kobe's best is as good as Lebron's last two years... Kobe didn't prove anything to me with his just ok playoffs in those two years.. With all the scoring he was doing in the regular season his playoff numbers went down...




As for Lebron getting that great sidekick.. It isn't going to be as easy as getting players to play in SUNNY LA.LA LAND...

[AirJordan&Magic]

Kobe best two years could be compared to lEBRON's last two years but they were not as good.. Lebron has won at a much higher level.. ANd last year won 66 games with Mo as his best sidekick.. I have never seen Kobe or any other player do something like that... So no I don't think Kobe's best is as good as Lebron's last two years... Kobe didn't prove anything to me with his just ok playoffs in those two years.. With all the scoring he was doing in the regular season his playoff numbers went down...




As for Lebron getting that great sidekick.. It isn't going to be as easy as getting players to play in SUNNY LA.LA LAND...

Just ok playoffs???? Kobe averaged 27.9 ppg 6.3 rpg 5.1 apg ( 5 apg with Kwame Brown, Chris Mihn, and Smush as teammates btw) on nearly 50% shooting in the 2006 playoffs......his ppg was the only thing that went down so where did you get this myth that his production went down?....and in the 2007 playoffs he averaged 33 ppg/ 5.2 rpg/4.4 apg on 46% shooting...And those were worst teams than any team LeBron ever had in a more competitive conference.

And not as good? Kobe Bryant pulled off a season that had not been seen since Wilt Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor!.....Most of the records, milestones, etc he accomplished those 2 seasons had not been seen in as many as 40 years!

Yes LeBron won at a higher level, but are you going to sit here and say it didnt have anything to do with his role players??

[Freshprince619]

Just ok playoffs???? Kobe averaged 27.9 ppg 6.3 rpg 5.1 apg ( 5 apg with Kwame Brown, Chris Mihn, and Smush as teammates btw) on nearly 50% shooting in the 2006 playoffs......his ppg was the only thing that went down so where did you get this myth that his production went down?....and in the 2007 playoffs he averaged 33 ppg/ 5.2 rpg/4.4 apg on 46% shooting...And those were worst teams than any team LeBron ever had in a more competitive conference.

And not as good? Kobe Bryant pulled off a season that had not been seen since Wilt Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor!.....Most of the records, milestones, etc he accomplished those 2 seasons had not been seen in as many as 40 years!

Yes LeBron won at a higher level, but are you going to sit here and say it didnt have anything to do with his role players??
Good points. And the fact that Lebron was in the much inferior conference. And no thats not speculation. Just look what happened in 07 when he got to the finals. SWEPT! If that Cavs team were in the West they barely get 8th seed and get swept.

[Kiarip]

^ QFT on the eastern conference part.

Let's not forget how TERRIBLE the east was. Lebron played Wizards in the first round which weren't all that much better than they were at the start of this season...

Even if caron butler wasn't traded, and gilbert arenas didn't get convicted for gun-bringing the wizards still wouldn't have made the playoffs... and it's not like the East is SUPER STRONG now... it's just a lot stronger than it has been in a while.

Celtics and Hawks are both around the same level that the 2-8 seeds are in the west...


To say that Kobe has never played at the level that Lebron is playing at now is really near-sighted. Yes, Lebron is getting more rebounds, and more assists, but the validity of those stats is questionable. I for one when I watch the cavs play am not too impressed with Lebron's rebounding skills, most of his rebounds are already secured for his team. His assists are admittedly good.

on the other hand just a couple of years ago Kobe scored 81 points in a winning effort... 81. Then he scored 62 points against the Mavs that got 1st seed in the west in that same season... Kobe HAS played at a level equal to what's Lebron doing now, everyone is just way into the hype.

[flipogb]

Magic tries way to hard to not be bias towards the Lakers

that or hes an a$$

[LA_Showtime]

^ QFT on the eastern conference part.

Let's not forget how TERRIBLE the east was. Lebron played Wizards in the first round which weren't all that much better than they were at the start of this season...

Even if caron butler wasn't traded, and gilbert arenas didn't get convicted for gun-bringing the wizards still wouldn't have made the playoffs... and it's not like the East is SUPER STRONG now... it's just a lot stronger than it has been in a while.

Celtics and Hawks are both around the same level that the 2-8 seeds are in the west...


To say that Kobe has never played at the level that Lebron is playing at now is really near-sighted. Yes, Lebron is getting more rebounds, and more assists, but the validity of those stats is questionable. I for one when I watch the cavs play am not too impressed with Lebron's rebounding skills, most of his rebounds are already secured for his team. His assists are admittedly good.

on the other hand just a couple of years ago Kobe scored 81 points in a winning effort... 81. Then he scored 62 points against the Mavs that got 1st seed in the west in that same season... Kobe HAS played at a level equal to what's Lebron doing now, everyone is just way into the hype.

Validity? LeBron's definitely earned them. I just think they're inflated in the sense that everything that team does revolves around him. If other superstars were surrounded with the shooters he has and were given the green light to hold the ball 12-15 seconds each possession many of them could put up similar numbers.

[Simple Jack]

Validity? LeBron's definitely earned them. I just think they're inflated in the sense that everything that team does revolves around him. If other superstars were surrounded with the shooters he has and were given the green light to hold the ball 12-15 seconds each possession many of them could put up similar numbers.


Really? Who could do that? LeBron has been putting up gaudy numbers even before he had any talent on his team.

If you question his rebounding/passing ability; you really don't watch Cavaliers games. Having the ball in your hands doesn't give you extraordinary court vision nor does it give you the ability to rebound well.

As Kblaze pointed out in another post; LeBron holding the ball "all game" is a myth. There have been plenty of players in the past who held the ball as much as LeBron or more; they just didn't have the all-around game or ability to play as well as he has, and in turn resulting in eye-popping stats.

[DixieNourmous]

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[strifed169]

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thats a pretty epic picture

[Kingwillball]

Validity? LeBron's definitely earned them. I just think they're inflated in the sense that everything that team does revolves around him. If other superstars were surrounded with the shooters he has and were given the green light to hold the ball 12-15 seconds each possession many of them could put up similar numbers.


How many Guys can get to the Rim almost at Will even when the Defense Knows it's coming ? Answer: Knowbody

[artest 93]

How many Guys can get to the Rim almost at Will even when the Defense Knows it's coming ? Answer: Knowbody

If someone is arguing that there are a lot of players that can put up 30/8/8 on 50% FG, then don't even bother responding. If it were that easy, or they think they could put together a team that could do that, then they should be GM's.