Westbrook: I wasn't ready for Kobe, he is the best player in the league

[cotdt]

EL SEGUNDO, Calif. (AP)—Russell Westbrook surely must have known Kobe Bryant was coming for him.

Westbrook already knows Bryant relishes big challenges much more than easy matchups, which sometimes bore him. Although Bryant is nursing a variety of minor injuries, he went into the pivotal Game 5 of their first-round playoff series demanding to guard Westbrook, a speedy point guard a decade younger and a whole lot faster than him.

“That’s Kobe,” Westbrook said. “That’s who he is. That’s why he’s the best player in the league.”

Bryant harassed Westbrook into a 4-for-13 shooting performance with eight turnovers while the defending NBA champions reclaimed control with a 111-87 victory.

Just how did Kobe do it—on a sore knee, no less?

“By being a savvy old dog, I guess,” Bryant said with a grin masking a sarcastic snarl.

“We made adjustments and showed that we can handle what they have,” Bryant said Wednesday after his teammates went through a light workout in El Segundo.

Westbrook averaged 21.8 points, 6.5 rebounds and 5.3 assists while making more than 55 percent of his shots in the first four games, catalyzing everything in the Thunder’s offense with breakneck drives to the hoop. Westbrook still made his drives against Bryant, but they frequently were out-of-control slashes to the paint, resulting in extremely difficult layup attempts or awkward passes to surprised teammates, leading to his turnovers.

“Kobe had an impact on the game,” Thunder coach Scott Brooks said. “The stat sheet does not show that. The guy was competing and set the tone defensively. He did a good job of guarding Russell to start the game. That kind of threw us off a little bit. Kobe is a great player. He found his way.”

Bryant wasn’t alone on defense, either: Ron Artest limited NBA scoring champion Kevin Durant’s clean looks at the basket, holding Durant to 17 points on 5-of-14 shooting. Although Artest acknowledges nobody can fully contain the lanky Durant’s unique skills, he credited Bryant’s defense for changing the Thunder’s offense.

“That’s the hardest we’ve played all year,” Artest said. “I’m sure Westbrook will adjust. He came ready to play against us this year. Being a first-year playoff guy with so much energy, he probably wasn’t ready for Kobe.”

Source: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=ArhiX6YW0SGxR4RxxaBEUWC8vLYF?slug=ap-lakers-thunder

[Bodhi]

Haven't you heard? People on ISH think Kobe is a terrible defender.

:rolleyes:

[cotdt]

It's amazing how Kobe finds a way to be effective even while injured.

[Mr Clutch Melo]

9 pages by tommorow night....

[Juges8932]

9 pages by tommorow night....

Tomorrow night. You severely underestimate ISH. 9 pages by 11 am (~9 hours from now).

[brandonislegend]

In before fanboys/haters

[YAWN]

westbrook and the okc coach are kobe homers. thats the only plausible explanation for the praise. -kobehaters A-Z

[NewYorkUSCtrojan]

Kobe Bean Bryant Is A Beast!

[ImmortalD24]

Kobe when he isn't screwing around, is one of the better defenders in the league at his size and under.

But he does have that tendency to reach a bit too much, foul at the worst moments, and either overplay or totally ignore his man. Wish he could find the balance and play smart defense every game instead of every 5 or so games.

Still, 9 all-defensive team b(expletive)s.

[Juges8932]

Kobe's defense is impregnable. When he wants to, one of the sickest defenders in the L, for sure.

[chains5000]

I love this kind of threads.
Let's say player A gets owned by player B, what do you want him to say?
Player A: Player B did a great job on me, I couldn't do much, that's why he's the 3rd best player in the league!
:rolleyes:

[konex]

Kobe's defense is impregnable. When he wants to, one of the sickest defenders in the L, for sure.

He is a very good defender but his strategy of backing off and leveling guys out while playing the angles won't work against guys who trust their jumpshot. Then again, how many impact players trust their jumpshot these days? :roll:

[Twiens]

Durant also called him the best player in the world but no....he's washed up :rolleyes:

[OldSchoolBBall]

Kobe does a good job defensively (with a lot of help from his big men) for one game against a guy who averaged 16.1 pts/41.8% FG this season and people act like he's the second coming of the messiah. Hysterical. :oldlol:

[YAWN]

Kobe does a good job defensively (with a lot of help from his big men) for one game against a guy who averaged 16.1 pts/41.8% FG this season and people act like he's the second coming of the messiah. Hysterical. :oldlol:
true, he sucks.

[chains5000]

Durant also called him the best player in the world but no....he's washed up :rolleyes:
Fact is he hasn't been himself for a few months now.
Blame it on injuries, age or whatever you like, but his performance hasn't been that good.

[OldSchoolBBall]

true, he sucks.

He doesn't suck (defensively), but to hear the reaction from Kobe fans the last couple of days you'd think he locked up prime KJ or CP3/Deron or something. :oldlol:

[gts]

Kobe does a good job defensively (with a lot of help from his big men) for one game against a guy who averaged 16.1 pts/41.8% FG this season and people act like he's the second coming of the messiah. Hysterical. :oldlol:
westbrook's opinion> man in new york sitting in his michael jordan pajamas posting in the middle of the night

[Samurai Swoosh]

He doesn't suck (defensively), but to hear the reaction from Kobe fans the last couple of days you'd think he locked up prime KJ or CP3/Deron or something. :oldlol:
But Westbrook has been a beast. He's reaching elite level PG caliber play, very rapidly.

[Kingwillball]

Source: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=ArhiX6YW0SGxR4RxxaBEUWC8vLYF?slug=ap-lakers-thunder


Of course he say's he good he was shut down by him..

[chains5000]

westbrook's opinion> man in new york sitting in his michael jordan pajamas posting in the middle of the night
Not hating on Kobe, but what Westbrook said is what 99% of NBA players say in every post game interview.

[Kingwillball]

Durant also called him the best player in the world but no....he's washed up :rolleyes:


Lebron is two notches above Kobe right now..Sorry dude

[cotdt]

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/15/fullj.64842cd5f46e9090b3025bc663967a4c/64842cd5f46e9090b3025bc663967a4c-getty-98244836ng028_thndr_lakrs.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/d5/fullj.f8a20a00d33c7700d28c18a82e53d9d3/f8a20a00d33c7700d28c18a82e53d9d3-getty-98244836mw055_oklahoma_city.jpg

Kobe gets a steal from Westbrook
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/b0/fullj.87680f56208d8809d10b4847f7047a1e/87680f56208d8809d10b4847f7047a1e-getty-98244836ab013_thndr_lakrs.jpg

Artest also helped against Westbrook
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/b2/fullj.bd47f74cbe6d135aeefa2a5706e87c6b/bd47f74cbe6d135aeefa2a5706e87c6b-getty-98244836ab021_thndr_lakrs.jpg

[OldSchoolBBall]

But Westbrook has been a beast. He's reaching elite level PG caliber play, very rapidly.

But how much of that was Fisher's incompetence? I can't buy that a 16 pt/42% player is some stud on the basis of a few good games.

[amfirst]

Kobe normally plays lazy defense, he only plays real defense when the team really needs a win in the playoffs. The regular season, he just chills in the cut and coast all the way into the playoffs. That's why regular season don't mean jack because some people don't play to there potential.

[HorryIsMyMVP]

I'm sure that was considered all ball by the refs. Ron Artest looks like he is raping him. Literally.

[shizzouts]

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/15/fullj.64842cd5f46e9090b3025bc663967a4c/64842cd5f46e9090b3025bc663967a4c-getty-98244836ng028_thndr_lakrs.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/d5/fullj.f8a20a00d33c7700d28c18a82e53d9d3/f8a20a00d33c7700d28c18a82e53d9d3-getty-98244836mw055_oklahoma_city.jpg

Kobe gets a steal from Westbrook
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/b0/fullj.87680f56208d8809d10b4847f7047a1e/87680f56208d8809d10b4847f7047a1e-getty-98244836ab013_thndr_lakrs.jpg

Artest also helped against Westbrook
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/b2/fullj.bd47f74cbe6d135aeefa2a5706e87c6b/bd47f74cbe6d135aeefa2a5706e87c6b-getty-98244836ab021_thndr_lakrs.jpg

lmao. Westbrook owned.

[Juges8932]

But how much of that was Fisher's incompetence? I can't buy that a 16 pt/42% player is some stud on the basis of a few good games.

If it was Fisher's incompetence that caused the spike in Westbrook's performance, then wouldn't putting an average defender like Kobe mean that Westbrook would shoot around his average for the season of 42%? Average defense= average stats?

[lefthook00]

It's both. Fisher's worthlessness as a defender and the Westbrook finding his way on the big stage. At this point of Westbrook's young career(and Durant's), he is literally getting better every game..learning new things, understanding the game better, etc. Their learning curves are crazy right now. If he attacked more and shared a bit more of the offensive load in the regular season like he has been doing in the playoffs, his stats would have been better.

Also, the best way to neutralize Kobe's defense is running screens on him over and over(see LeBron & a lot of the time, Wade.) If you're iso'd against Kobe, it will be a tough night for you.

People who pray for Kobe's downfall get proven wrong again and again...and again...and again.

[OldSchoolBBall]

If it was Fisher's incompetence that caused the spike in Westbrook's performance, then wouldn't putting an average defender like Kobe mean that Westbrook would shoot around his average for the season of 42%? Average defense= average stats?

Who said that Kobe is an average defender? He's not nearly as good as people like you think, but he's at the very least above average, and can be great in stretches when he applies himself. Also, 10-13 FGA is a very low volume, so a missed shot or two really has an impact on FG% and can't be used as evidence of much of anything.

[lefthook00]

Lebron is two notches above Kobe right now..Sorry dude

True...but LeBron would have gotten murked by Westbrook. He can't guard players that quick, he's too big.

[824]

Who said that Kobe is an average defender? He's not nearly as good as people like you think, but he's at the very least above average, and can be great in stretches when he applies himself. Also, 10-13 FGA is a very low volume, so a missed shot or two really has an impact on FG% and can't be used as evidence of much of anything.

Ok.

[Juges8932]

Who said that Kobe is an average defender? He's not nearly as good as people like you think, but he's at the very least above average, and can be great in stretches when he applies himself. Also, 10-13 FGA is a very low volume, so a missed shot or two really has an impact on FG% and can't be used as evidence of much of anything.

He's better than people like you think. I am actually pretty objective when it comes to Kobe's defense. His team defense can be extremely weak sometimes, especially when he guards somebody who he doesn't respect to hit jumpers, because he plays off of them a lot and if that player is hot, can make the team pay. But on the reverse, if the guy is bricking, then Kobe can help collapse on penetration into the lane. However, Kobe's man-to-man defense is spectacular when he puts his energy and effort into it and IMO, one of the best man-to-man defenders in the league. At the SG spot, I don't think anybody is better. Though Wade is a better team defender and fine m-t-m defender himself. Now, Battier and Artest are probably better, but they are SF, but they guard the best SGs, so you could count them in the discussion I guess into perimeter defender. Also, Westbrook averages 14 FGA/game in the regular season. So he was 1 off of his average attempts. He surely would have gotten more than 13 attempts had Kobe not stolen the ball on attempts or him getting stopped on his way. So yeah, 1 miss can make a huge difference, but big difference between 31% and 42% especially when he would of had to make 5-6 shots, 6 to get at least 42%, to get his average.

[rs98762001]

Kobe is without a doubt one of the best man to man defenders in the league when motivated. Unfortunately that only happens about 5 times a season. The rest of the time he spends gambling for steals in the passing lanes, and letting the guy he's meant to be defending get open shots all day.

[KobeRules24]

Kobe does a good job defensively (with a lot of help from his big men) for one game against a guy who averaged 16.1 pts/41.8% FG this season and people act like he's the second coming of the messiah. Hysterical. :oldlol:

:oldlol: oh boy these jordan nutthuggers hate to give kobe credit.

[KobeRules24]

westbrook's opinion> man in new york sitting in his michael jordan pajamas posting in the middle of the night

:cheers:

[zizozain]

In before ashbelly ( new account for PB)
j-z eh ?? you stupid indian :roll:

[BlackMambaLivin]

Kobe "Black Mamba" Bryant
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:


Even his enemies bow down at the feet of him

[PleezeBelieve]

Hold up, Kobe Fan thinks Kobe's performance in Game 5 was impressive?

:oldlol:

Dude was in a Bruce Bowen role all game. Shoot 40% but that's okay cause you getting limited shots and playing solid D to offset lackluster offensive performances.

Kobe should have accepted this role in Game 1. They might have swept the Thunder.

[King Lebron LBJ]

Source: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=ArhiX6YW0SGxR4RxxaBEUWC8vLYF?slug=ap-lakers-thunder

It's amazing how you continue to post these Kobe is the best player in the league threads from other players as in trying to convince yourself and others than Kobe is the best. Quite funny really.

[CeoTypeDoe619]

It's amazing how you continue to post these Kobe is the best player in the league threads from other players as in trying to convince yourself and others than Kobe is the best. Quite funny really.
:rolleyes: Lebron fans.
That want even the main point of the thread.


The man point was how Westbrook pretty much admits Kobes defense left him shook.


But hey whatever hurts ya feelings the most i guess

[King Lebron LBJ]

:rolleyes: Lebron fans.
That want even the main point of the thread.


The man point was how Westbrook pretty much admits Kobes defense left him shook.


But hey whatever hurts ya feelings the most i guess

Hmm ok

So why name the title of the thread "I wasn't ready for Kobe, he is the best player in the league"

It's clear what is agenda was and why he created this thread and it wasn't purely because of the defense he played on Westbrook.

[CeoTypeDoe619]

Hmm ok

So why name the title of the thread "I wasn't ready for Kobe, he is the best player in the league"

It's clear what is agenda was and why he created this thread and it wasn't purely because of the defense he played on Westbrook.
Take it how you want. What jumped out at me was that Westbrook pretty much said hes Kobes biitch. this is like the 100th player to say kobe was the best in the last month. So how is that news?

[King Lebron LBJ]

Take it how you want. What jumped out at me was that Westbrook pretty much said hes Kobes biitch. this is like the 100th player to say kobe was the best in the last month. So how is that news?

Exactly my point, it always gets posted on here as a way to try and convince other people more than spreading news.

[TheLogo]

Nothing surprises me anymore, just another player claiming Kobe is the best.

Lebron is the best player in the NBA this year but a lot of players have been saying Kobe is the best, rather than Lebron. Also, factor in all Kobe's injuries and him playing at 70%, for Lebron to take the title as the best.

Really?!....an injured Kobe finally got Lebron the top spot.

[Doranku]

Hold up, Kobe Fan thinks Kobe's performance in Game 5 was impressive?

:oldlol:

Dude was in a Bruce Bowen role all game. Shoot 40% but that's okay cause you getting limited shots and playing solid D to offset lackluster offensive performances.

Kobe should have accepted this role in Game 1. They might have swept the Thunder.

50%, unless you actually count the full court heave at the end of the first quarter. You probably don't though, you never have to with LeBron since he just holds the ball so he doesn't hurt his precious FG%. :roll:

Watch the game, btw. Lackluster offensive performance? Kobe was at the steering wheel of the offense the entire time he was on the floor.

[hwliuLAP]

Kobe found a way to help his team to win, and that's all that matters.

we can argue how good of a "defender" he is, the truth is he stopped the sole reason of why Thunders was able to break down Lakers defense.


That's what makes him one of the best. He did what his team needed him to do to get a win.

[RazorBaLade]

The fans crowned lebron but until he gets a ring no nba player is gonna say hes the king. Its a simple concept and of course unlike fans they kno kobe is injured and factor that in.

[PleezeBelieve]

Tell Kobe to try and shoot 47% in season before he's mentioned in the same sentence with LeBron.

LMAO @ someone needing to be told in 2010 that LeBron is better than Kobe.

Kobe Fan, move on....

[RazorBaLade]

Tell Kobe to try and shoot 47% in season before he's mentioned in the same sentence with LeBron.

LMAO @ someone needing to be told in 2010 that LeBron is better than Kobe.

Kobe Fan, move on....

As a Kobe fan I would not trade FG % for championships. In fact, I wouldn't even prefer 81 pts, 10 games in a row of 50 pts, 12 3's in one game, 35 ppg in a season, 14 or w/e it was of 40 pt games in a row over just 1 championship, simply as a guy who lives in LA, a fan of Lakers and a fan of Kobe. Would you trade Lebrons stats for a championship? Which would you prefer? I don't think it can ever be a unanimous ruling until Lebron has both, until that point there are going to be people that believe that Lebron isn't a winner and that's why he isn't the best player in the game and if you understand the logic in their point you shouldn't be able to say they are wrong, although you can still disagree.

[zizozain]

As a Kobe fan I would not trade FG % for championships. In fact, I wouldn't even prefer 81 pts, 10 games in a row of 50 pts, 12 3's in one game, 35 ppg in a season, 14 or w/e it was of 40 pt games in a row over just 1 championship, simply as a guy who lives in LA, a fan of Lakers and a fan of Kobe. Would you trade Lebrons stats for a championship? Which would you prefer? I don't think it can ever be a unanimous ruling until Lebron has both, until that point there are going to be people that believe that Lebron isn't a winner and that's why he isn't the best player in the game and if you understand the logic in their point you shouldn't be able to say they are wrong, although you can still disagree.
are you serious ?
answering the dumbest stan on ISH :no: :no:
ignore is the best
cheeers

[CeoTypeDoe619]

are you serious ?
answering the dumbest stan on ISH :no: :no:
ignore is the best
cheeers
:applause: :applause:
:cheers:

[Andrei89]

It's amazing how Kobe finds a way to be effective even while injured.

1:Is he that injured?


2: It was not westbrook that said ""I was not ready for Kobe", but Artest so your fanboy thread failed.

3: Kobe did a great job but there are 10 other thread about this

[PleezeBelieve]

are you serious ?
answering the dumbest stan on ISH :no: :no:
ignore is the best
cheeers
There's a lil Bird in me but I don't actually mean a gotdamn birdie
You see...
Pardon when I flap my wings how my trap set seige
This aint a trap just how I trap my cheese
Can't deny the raps of the immaculate PleezeBelieve
Come clean, tucked sleeves reveal every muscle on me
And I know you peeved how I'm so damn lean
So f*ck the haters
I'm in the Beema like see-ya-later
Got mo eyes following my words than a newspaper
Hate to be rude, but guess its a cue to be a hater like you
Learned from the Gators, bad things come in twos
First I'm killin you and then vaporing ya crew
Don't get is miscontrued, youngin
Man of the cross but never touched a man unless he crossed me
Bosses divvy orders while ordering in Little Italy
Boy, don't f*ck with PB....

[Andrei89]

I kinda forgot how many d1ckriders kobe has. And no disrespect to Kobe fans , but some of U ignorant idiots were quiet for the past 5 months about him on this forum and here he has 1 good game in which he was not good at offense may i add. And all of the sudden the stans appear.

Where t F where u when he played average?

I have maybe seen only 10-15 laker fans in game thread where Kobe had a slow night.

So what is the difference between U and PB,KGMVP,Derek Zoolander

Nada

- Those guys will stop posting if their player sucked
- Those guys will not stop posting if the team sux but their player still had a good game
- Those guy will appear like flies making 10 new threads if their player had a good night


Bunch of noobs and gimmicks

ciao:pimp: :pimp:

[ZenMaster]

I kinda forgot how many d1ckriders kobe has. And no disrespect to Kobe fans , but some of U ignorant idiots were quiet for the past 5 months about him on this forum and here he has 1 good game in which he was not good at offense may i add. And all of the sudden the stans appear.

Where t F where u when he played average?

I have maybe seen only 10-15 laker fans in game thread where Kobe had a slow night.

So what is the difference between U and PB,KGMVP,Derek Zoolander

Nada

- Those guys will stop posting if their player sucked
- Those guys will not stop posting if the team sux but their player still had a good game
- Those guy will appear like flies making 10 new threads if their player had a good night


Bunch of noobs and gimmicks

ciao:pimp: :pimp:


He was very good on offense in the last game. There's more to basketball than scoring points.

[Allstar24]

Why is anyone even trying to reason with LeBron groupies? As if anyone gives a shit about their "opinion" :oldlol: You can just see how stupid they are for thinking Kobe didn't have a good game offensively. This thread wasn't necessary though, you're just inviting the trolls with that title.

[Indian guy]

Lebron is the best player in the NBA this year but a lot of players have been saying Kobe is the best, rather than Lebron.

Actually, both Noah and Rose called LeBron the best player in the league multiple times in these playoffs. But it's something that's become such a forgone conclusion that nobody even bothers posting 'em. For Kobe fans, post-game quotes is all they have now.

[Mikaiel]

50%, unless you actually count the full court heave at the end of the first quarter. You probably don't though, you never have to with LeBron since he just holds the ball so he doesn't hurt his precious FG%. :roll:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-d8bQU2C9g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPrkkADMe80

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyLr8nOKcu0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3BY9z_PH6s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgfJuvu4Eg0

And almost got this one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXzY0EMA6ng

[cavsfanatic]

Actually, both Noah and Rose called LeBron the best player in the league multiple times in these playoffs. But it's something that's become such a forgone conclusion that nobody even bothers posting 'em. For Kobe fans, post-game quotes is all they have now.
Nah its not that. We already know lebron is the best player in the league so we don't have to quote and make threads every time a player says it.

[Leviathon1121]

50%, unless you actually count the full court heave at the end of the first quarter. You probably don't though, you never have to with LeBron since he just holds the ball so he doesn't hurt his precious FG%. :roll:

Watch the game, btw. Lackluster offensive performance? Kobe was at the steering wheel of the offense the entire time he was on the floor.

Ahh Mikeil you beat me too it. I was going to say I thought Lebron just hit a half court shot a few days ago.

Laker fans wonder why the have a bad rep, well, look at some of you, you guys just make shit up and expect people to believe it.

Hell, look at the title of the topic, unless you read the article all the way to the end, it is made to look like a quote from Westbrook.

Stop making stuff up.

[artest 93]

Ahh Mikeil you beat me too it. I was going to say I thought Lebron just hit a half court shot a few days ago.

Laker fans wonder why the have a bad rep, well, look at some of you, you guys just make shit up and expect people to believe it.

Hell, look at the title of the topic, unless you read the article all the way to the end, it is made to look like a quote from Westbrook.

Stop making stuff up.

Ignore the so-called Laker fans that joined around Feb. 2008. We all know why. They're just trolls with very little IQ.

Getting to the OP: Kobe is still a top 3 player in the game, but most sane people have acknowledged that LeBron is the best player in the league. It's not that hard to see if you're not an idiot. Unfortunately, for some "strange" reason, that is still an issue on this website.

[KAJ=GOAT]

Westbrook is just a Kobe homer.

He doesn't know anything about basketball.

[Leviathon1121]

Take it how you want. What jumped out at me was that Westbrook pretty much said hes Kobes biitch. this is like the 100th player to say kobe was the best in the last month. So how is that news?

Really, the 100th? Are you sure about that?

[Doranku]

Ahh Mikeil you beat me too it. I was going to say I thought Lebron just hit a half court shot a few days ago.

Laker fans wonder why the have a bad rep, well, look at some of you, you guys just make shit up and expect people to believe it.

Hell, look at the title of the topic, unless you read the article all the way to the end, it is made to look like a quote from Westbrook.

Stop making stuff up.

Too bad they don't have YouTube videos of all the times that he just dribbled the clock out. :oldlol:

Make shit up? There's already been two instances off the top of my head in these 5 games against the Bulls where he dribbled the clock out instead of throwing up a long heave. Don't give me that shit. :oldlol:

[Doranku]

Ignore the so-called Laker fans that joined around Feb. 2008. We all know why. They're just trolls with very little IQ.

Getting to the OP: Kobe is still a top 3 player in the game, but most sane people have acknowledged that LeBron is the best player in the league. It's not that hard to see if you're not an idiot. Unfortunately, for some "strange" reason, that is still an issue on this website.

Seems to be an issue with the league too considering numerous players have came out and called Kobe the best this year. :roll: But what do they know, I mean they only play against both guys at least twice a season. Obviously, artest 93 of ISH message board knows better. :roll:

[Mikaiel]

http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/files/2008-december/i_m_with_stupid_jpg.jpg

[BlueandGold]

Really, the 100th? Are you sure about that?

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exaggeration

[Doranku]

http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/files/2008-december/i_m_with_stupid_jpg.jpg
'http://i48.tinypic.com/fnztvo.jpg

[Simple Jack]

Nothing surprises me anymore, just another player claiming Kobe is the best.

Lebron is the best player in the NBA this year but a lot of players have been saying Kobe is the best, rather than Lebron. Also, factor in all Kobe's injuries and him playing at 70%, for Lebron to take the title as the best.

Really?!....an injured Kobe finally got Lebron the top spot.

LeBron has had the top spot for 2 years now, maybe more.

Rings should NEVER come into this conversation. We aren't comparing careers. 14 years vs 7 in the league should be enough to know not to bring up career achievements. Considering what each player individually has shown the past few seasons, LeBron dominates the game on a night-by-night basis unlike anyone else in the league. As of right now, Kobe has near nothing on LeBron anymore.

[Mikaiel]

Too bad they don't have YouTube videos of all the times that he just dribbled the clock out. :oldlol:

And too bad they don't have the videos of all the times he missed those. Or maybe he's just the luckiest player in NBA history and he's 5-5 from half-court. :confusedshrug:

And it's not like Kobe attempts that kind of shots every single time. In fact, I youtubed "Kobe half court" and only came up with like 2 or 3 legit ones. :confusedshrug:


Seems to be an issue with the league too considering numerous players have came out and called Kobe the best this year. :roll:

If that was before he hurt his finger, all right. Kobe was a beast. But anyone saying Kobe > LeBron after that is delusional.

And you never see any "X said LeBron's the best" threads btw. Just wanted to point that out.

[LA_Showtime]

As the best player and leader of the team, Kobe should play this kind of defense more often.

[Twiens]

For the first 82 games: Lebron
Playoffs: Kobe

I'm willing to admit that, Im sure most Bron fans are too.

[LA_Showtime]

Hold up, Kobe Fan thinks Kobe's performance in Game 5 was impressive?

:oldlol:

Dude was in a Bruce Bowen role all game. Shoot 40% but that's okay cause you getting limited shots and playing solid D to offset lackluster offensive performances.

Kobe should have accepted this role in Game 1. They might have swept the Thunder.

Wow. This guy is truly an idiot.

Stats don't mean anything. Kobe controlled the tempo of the game. He played the role of facilitator tonight which we haven't seen in a long time.

[LA_Showtime]

For the first 82 games: Lebron
Playoffs: Kobe

I'm willing to admit that, Im sure most Bron fans are too.

Um, no. LeBron averaged like 35/8/8 against the Bulls. He's also shooting like 20% higher than Kobe from the field. :oldlol:

[LA_Showtime]

LeBron has had the top spot for 2 years now, maybe more.

Rings should NEVER come into this conversation. We aren't comparing careers. 14 years vs 7 in the league should be enough to know not to bring up career achievements. Considering what each player individually has shown the past few seasons, LeBron dominates the game on a night-by-night basis unlike anyone else in the league. As of right now, Kobe has near nothing on LeBron anymore.

I thought Kobe's intangibles put him above LeBron until last year. He's basically been unstoppable since the beginning of 2008.

[LAClipsFan33]

Kobe played good D.

At the same time you have to take into account that Westbrook didn't have the right mentality. As soon as Kobe stepped in front of him he turned into a shook fanboy intimidated and awed by the greatness of Kobe Bryant. Your not going to have success like that. He should have been thinking about going for the jugular and getting Kobe out of there with 2 fouls right away. Instead he was terrified when his hero was in his defensive stance in front of him.

[Dave3]

Um, no. LeBron averaged like 35/8/8 against the Bulls. He's also shooting like 20% higher than Kobe from the field. :oldlol:
Correct it to 32 9 and 8 before anyone calls you a homer for exaggerating LeBron's stats.

[VishaltotheG]

LeBron > Kobe, not really debatable anymore

[LA_Showtime]

Correct it to 32 9 and 8 before anyone calls you a homer for exaggerating LeBron's stats.

I figured the LA_Showtime screen name might due the trick, although I've been called a Kobe homer and a fake Laker fan before.

[asdf1990]

a lot of superstars wud be able to play good d if they only had to focus on 1 sid of the court. kobe has the luxry of only playing 1 side because of his stacked team.

[LA_Showtime]

Kobe played good D.

At the same time you have to take into account that Westbrook didn't have the right mentality. As soon as Kobe stepped in front of him he turned into a shook fanboy intimidated and awed by the greatness of Kobe Bryant. Your not going to have success like that. He should have been thinking about going for the jugular and getting Kobe out of there with 2 fouls right away. Instead he was terrified when his hero was in his defensive stance in front of him.

And I'm pretty sure Kobe was looking for the surprise to throw Westbrook off his game. Let's be honest, Kobe's a very good defender, but he doesn't have the speed or explosiveness to consistently stay with Westbrook. What Kobe did was take the challenge, set the tone, and as a team they showed up to play D.

[LA_Showtime]

a lot of superstars wud be able to play good d if they only had to focus on 1 sid of the court. kobe has the luxry of only playing 1 side because of his stacked team.

Kobe was basically playing point guard. He probably had like 15 hockey assists. His numbers don't show he well he played.

[artest 93]

Seems to be an issue with the league too considering numerous players have came out and called Kobe the best this year. :roll: But what do they know, I mean they only play against both guys at least twice a season. Obviously, artest 93 of ISH message board knows better. :roll:

Once again, like all Laker bandwagoners, you lack the ability to comprehend.

How many players/coaches do you think believe that LeBron is a better player? That's right. Only about 90% of them. You're so stupid. I actually feel sorry for you and had to reply.

You're part of the same group of trolls who complain about the media and other personnel "shoving" LeBron down your throat. We have people who are saying LeBron can surpass MJ, including MJ himself. What does that mean? Oh, wait, they're just hyping him? You're an idiot.

You trolls have been doing nothing but complaining about ESPN being all over LeBron, but if we were to go by your logic, these are basketball analysts (of 20+ years) and former NBA players who think LeBron is the best we've seen since Jordan, but your opinion--which is the opinion of a troll--is more important and more accurate? :rolleyes:

And finally, what did you expect Westbrook to say? "Kobe is a great player, but Lebron is better"? Right. Reality check: he's playing Kobe right now. There's a chance that if he were playing LeBron and was being interviewed, he'd say the same thing about James.

That's right, folks. Nothing going on here. Just another day in life, except for Kobe ******gers who can't seem to get with the times. the fact is LeBron is simply the best player in the game right now. It is being said every game, every break, every commercial, and yet you only choose to hear what you want. Magic Johnson, among just about every analyst, said it the other day during halftime. Surely, even a troll like yourself can agree that Magic Johnson knows talent more than a young Westbrook, no? Yes. Just admit it. You're stupid.

Move along.

[LA_Showtime]

Once again, like all Laker bandwagoners, you lack the ability to comprehend.

How many players/coaches do you think believe that LeBron is a better player? That's right. Only about 90% of them. You're so stupid. I actually feel sorry for you and had to reply.

You're part of the same group of trolls who complain about the media and other personnel "shoving" LeBron down your throat. We have people who are saying LeBron can surpass MJ, including MJ himself. What does that mean? Oh, wait, they're just hyping him? You're an idiot.

You trolls have been doing nothing but complaining about ESPN being all over LeBron, but if we were to go by your logic, these are basketball analysts (of 20+ years) and former NBA players who think LeBron is the best we've seen since Jordan, but your opinion--which is the opinion of a troll--is more important and more accurate? :rolleyes:

And finally, what did you expect Westbrook to say? "Kobe is a great player, but Lebron is better"? Right. Reality check: he's playing Kobe right now. There's a chance that if he were playing LeBron and was being interviewed, he'd say the same thing about James.

That's right, folks. Nothing going on here. Just another day in life, except for Kobe ******gers who can't seem to get with the times. the fact is LeBron is simply the best player in the game right now. It is being said every game, every break, every commercial, and yet you only choose to hear what you want. Magic Johnson, among just about every analyst, said it the other day during halftime. Surely, even a troll like yourself can agree that Magic Johnson knows talent more than a young Westbrook, no? Yes. Just admit it. You're stupid.

Move along.

Based on how this series has gone, Westbrook would probably be wise to try and entice Kobe to keep shooting.

[asdf1990]

Kobe was basically playing point guard. He probably had like 15 hockey assists. His numbers don't show he well he played.

so u are telling me kobe wud be able to put up his regular 27/5/5 stat line while playing good d for a whole game?

[LAClipsFan33]

And I'm pretty sure Kobe was looking for the surprise to throw Westbrook off his game. Let's be honest, Kobe's a very good defender, but he doesn't have the speed or explosiveness to consistently stay with Westbrook. What Kobe did was take the challenge, set the tone, and as a team they showed up to play D.

Westbrook was scared. So yea Kobe set the tone by intimidating the Thunder's second best scorer just by standing there.

I just can't understand Westbrook's mentality. This is your chance to shine and you hesitate ? Why ?

[JtotheIzzo]

If Kobe let me, I'd suck his c0ck!

[LA_Showtime]

so u are telling me kobe wud be able to put up his regular 27/5/5 stat line while playing good d for a whole game?

No, is that what I said?

[Juges8932]

No, is that what I said?

No, and he knows that. He's just "playing" ignorant.

[LA_Showtime]

Westbrook was scared. So yea Kobe set the tone by intimidating the Thunder's second best scorer just by standing there.

I just can't understand Westbrook's mentality. This is your chance to shine and you hesitate ? Why ?

Westbrook is only a second year player. I don't even think he realizes how good he is/could become.

It's good to point out that Westbrook didn't exactly end the season on a high note. He really struggled in the last 10-12 games of the season.

And anyways, the guy still has no jump shot and has questionable decision making skills. He'll improve over time, but he's far from a finished product. The only reason he looked so dominant was because Derek Fisher was guarding him.

[LA_Showtime]

No, and he knows that. He's just "playing" ignorant.

I know, I would respond with something sarcastic but I'm not in the mood.

[asdf1990]

No, is that what I said?

thats what i was saying to begin with. can lebron james just score 12 points and expect his team to win? I am not saying he isn't a really good defender i am just saying that he has the luxury to mainly focusing on 1 side of the court. Passing doesn't take as much energy as scoring 27 points a game. like kobe said in his post game interview "i can pick my poison"

[04mzwach]

Kobe isn't injured enough to affect his performance. If they make it to the Finals, he will go off in the final game of the series to get the Finals MVP...book it. Otherwise, Derek Fisher is going to take it from his crippled fingers. Fisher has been playing the facilitator all season long and is just waiting for the Finals to get 25 points and 10 assists.

[LA_Showtime]

thats what i was saying to begin with. can lebron james just score 12 points and expect his team to win? I am not saying he isn't a really good defender i am just saying that he has the luxury to mainly focusing on 1 side of the court. Passing doesn't take as much energy as scoring 27 points a game. like kobe said in his post game interview "i can pick my poison"

Uh, LeBron can do the same thing. The Cavs have plenty of options on offense.

[LA_Showtime]

Kobe isn't injured enough to affect his performance. If they make it to the Finals, he will go off in the final game of the series to get the Finals MVP...book it. Otherwise, Derek Fisher is going to take it from his crippled fingers. Fisher has been playing the facilitator all season long and is just waiting for the Finals to get 25 points and 10 assists.

Yeah, I doubt he would defer this much in the Finals.

[Birmingham1955]

is the point of this thread to say kobe is better than lebron

[crisoner]

This proves it....Westbrook is a Kobe Groupie....

[Kingwillball]

is the point of this thread to say kobe is better than lebron


Apparently, but EVERYONE knows differently.

[Kingwillball]

This proves it....Westbrook is a Kobe Groupie....


Grew up in LA, not surprising..

[Mikaiel]

For the first 82 games: Lebron
Playoffs: Kobe

Last two postseasons :

LeBron : 34.3 points / 52.3 FG% / 38.1 3P% / 9.2 rebounds / 7.5 assists / 1.5 steals / 1.3 blocks

Kobe : 28.7 points / 44.6 FG% / 36.5 3P% / 5.0 rebounds / 5.3 assists / 1.6 steals / 0.8 blocks

[NBASTATMAN]

Source: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=ArhiX6YW0SGxR4RxxaBEUWC8vLYF?slug=ap-lakers-thunder

Kobe should have said the same thing about DURANT after game 3... Where dURANT shut kobe down... 1-9 SHOOTING...


Derrick Rose said that Lebron was the best when Lebron guarded him...

What has kobe done in the past vs guys that actually have a overall offensive game at his position.? RIP, PPIERCE, RAY ALLEN, MELO... Kobe knows who he can guard and who he can't.. You didn't see Kobe asking to guard Nash in those first round exits.. It would have been smart for him to defend Nash and let smush guard Bell... Never happened...

[NBASTATMAN]

Uh, LeBron can do the same thing. The Cavs have plenty of options on offense.


Which one of those guys in A CAVS UNIFORM would you trade Gasol for? Or even Odom? :lol

That Cavs team were horrible without Lebron when he sat, the Lakers were very good to great when Kobe sat... Huge difference in teammates... The Lakers have bigs who can score and defend.. Odom would be the second best player on the Cavs.. Shaq is in my opinion the second best player in a Cavs uniform but you cannot expect him to play well everynight...

[shrempf_on_rice]

Kobe should have said the same thing about DURANT after game 3... Where dURANT shut kobe down... 1-9 SHOOTING...


Derrick Rose said that Lebron was the best when Lebron guarded him...

What has kobe done in the past vs guys that actually have a overall offensive game at his position.? RIP, PPIERCE, RAY ALLEN, MELO... Kobe knows who he can guard and who he can't.. You didn't see Kobe asking to guard Nash in those first round exits.. It would have been smart for him to defend Nash and let smush guard Bell... Never happened...


Ahh, Lebron has what..12" and 100lbs on Rose?

I didn't see Lebron guarding Dwight Howard in the ECF last year when they were getting their butts kicked. There's a reason why your best player is not assigned to spend all his energy on defense, don't be stupid..

[YouGotServed]

I fail to see where Westbrook said "I wasn't ready for Kobe".

[NBASTATMAN]

Ahh, Lebron has what..12" and 100lbs on Rose?

I didn't see Lebron guarding Dwight Howard in the ECF last year when they were getting their butts kicked. There's a reason why your best player is not assigned to spend all his energy on defense, don't be stupid..


Kobe wasn't going against a great defense in the Suns.. Lebron was going against a great defense... Kobe wasn't putting up mind boggling stats either.. I am sure he could have picked Nash up in the fourth quarter..

[ZenMaster]

Which one of those guys in A CAVS UNIFORM would you trade Gasol for? Or even Odom? :lol

That Cavs team were horrible without Lebron when he sat, the Lakers were very good to great when Kobe sat... Huge difference in teammates... The Lakers have bigs who can score and defend.. Odom would be the second best player on the Cavs.. Shaq is in my opinion the second best player in a Cavs uniform but you cannot expect him to play well everynight...

More often than not the cavs don't play to well when Shaq is on the court. He has some hidden values though.

[NBASTATMAN]

Kobe's defense is impregnable. When he wants to, one of the sickest defenders in the L, for sure.


Where was it vs Paul Pierce and Ray Allen in the finals 2008? :roll:


I guess he didn't want to defend in that series...

[NBASTATMAN]

More often than not the cavs don't play to well when Shaq is on the court. He has some hidden values though.


Shaq is the type of player that needs the ball.. With so many guys looking to shoot on the Cavs he doesn't get touches.. When Mo and West were out Shaq played well cuz he got his touches... Still he won't be able to perform every time he steps onthe floor... Mo won't perform cuz he is a choker, shaq is just old..

[shrempf_on_rice]

Kobe wasn't going against a great defense in the Suns.. Lebron was going against a great defense... Kobe wasn't putting up mind boggling stats either.. I am sure he could have picked Nash up in the fourth quarter..

They choked big time vs the Suns



Where was it vs Paul Pierce and Ray Allen in the finals 2008?

I guess he didn't want to defend in that series...

I guess Lebron was too busy putting up stats when Turkoglu and Rashard Lewis was lighting them up from outside. :roll:

[NBASTATMAN]

Source: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=ArhiX6YW0SGxR4RxxaBEUWC8vLYF?slug=ap-lakers-thunder


COTDT , Where does Westbrook say that he wasn't ready for Kobe? :no:

[NBASTATMAN]

They choked big time vs the Suns



I guess Lebron was too busy putting up stats when Turkoglu and Rashard Lewis was lighting them up from outside. :roll:


Lebron did guard LEWis and Turk at times.. But whomever he didn't guard went off... And yea I agree THE LAKERS choked vs the SUNS...

[ZenMaster]

Shaq is the type of player that needs the ball.. With so many guys looking to shoot on the Cavs he doesn't get touches.. When Mo and West were out Shaq played well cuz he got his touches... Still he won't be able to perform every time he steps onthe floor... Mo won't perform cuz he is a choker, shaq is just old..

Yeah their defense isn't too great with him on the floor as well. Check out some of their lineups, it's not too impressive with him on the court.

http://www.82games.com/0910/0910CLE2.HTM

[shrempf_on_rice]

Lebron did guard LEWis and Turk at times.. But whomever he didn't guard went off... And yea I agree THE LAKERS choked vs the SUNS...

Oh right, it's only when Lebron wasn't guarding them that they went off. Kinda like how Rose was still able to put up 30pts when Lebron wasn't gaurding him

[ukplayer4]

meh

[brandonislegend]

Last two postseasons :

LeBron : 34.3 points / 52.3 FG% / 38.1 3P% / 9.2 rebounds / 7.5 assists / 1.5 steals / 1.3 blocks

Kobe : 28.7 points / 44.6 FG% / 36.5 3P% / 5.0 rebounds / 5.3 assists / 1.6 steals / 0.8 blocks

I don't care if someone averages 50/20/20 whats it good for if they have nothing to show for it?

RINGS:

LeBron : 0
Kobe: 1

/thread

[Andrei89]

Still nobody answered my question.

Di Westbrook really say "I wasn't ready for Kobe"?

Cuz it seems to me like Artest said it.

What's up OP? Too much STAN in your mind u begin to make things up

[KoRn]

Lebron did guard LEWis and Turk at times.. But whomever he didn't guard went off... And yea I agree THE LAKERS choked vs the SUNS...

you mean when rafer alston went off when lebron was guarding him? that was a career playoff high too.

[Doranku]

Once again, like all Laker bandwagoners, you lack the ability to comprehend.

How many players/coaches do you think believe that LeBron is a better player? That's right. Only about 90% of them. You're so stupid. I actually feel sorry for you and had to reply.

You're part of the same group of trolls who complain about the media and other personnel "shoving" LeBron down your throat. We have people who are saying LeBron can surpass MJ, including MJ himself. What does that mean? Oh, wait, they're just hyping him? You're an idiot.

You trolls have been doing nothing but complaining about ESPN being all over LeBron, but if we were to go by your logic, these are basketball analysts (of 20+ years) and former NBA players who think LeBron is the best we've seen since Jordan, but your opinion--which is the opinion of a troll--is more important and more accurate? :rolleyes:

And finally, what did you expect Westbrook to say? "Kobe is a great player, but Lebron is better"? Right. Reality check: he's playing Kobe right now. There's a chance that if he were playing LeBron and was being interviewed, he'd say the same thing about James.

That's right, folks. Nothing going on here. Just another day in life, except for Kobe ******gers who can't seem to get with the times. the fact is LeBron is simply the best player in the game right now. It is being said every game, every break, every commercial, and yet you only choose to hear what you want. Magic Johnson, among just about every analyst, said it the other day during halftime. Surely, even a troll like yourself can agree that Magic Johnson knows talent more than a young Westbrook, no? Yes. Just admit it. You're stupid.

Move along.

You call ME stupid, and then you come out with this RIDICULOUS assumption. Your post is just filled with anger because you know half of the nonsense you write is just that: nonsense.

Like I said, I'll take the opinion of those who actually PLAY against both of these guys instead of these 'basketball experts' who are perennially wrong about more predictions than they are right.

What did I expert Westbrook to say? You act as if it's just custom to call Kobe the best player when interviewed about him. :roll: Westbrook didn't have a gun pointed at him, nor was he expected to say "Oh yeah, Kobe's the best!" He said it because that's what he actually believes.

Oh, and one question. Out of Westbrook and Magic, which of the two has played against both LeBron and Kobe?

Another question. Which one has a vested interest to try to motivate Kobe? I'll give you a hint, it isn't the guy playing him a Playoff series right now. :oldlol:

[Leviathon1121]

50%, unless you actually count the full court heave at the end of the first quarter. You probably don't though, you never have to with LeBron since he just holds the ball so he doesn't hurt his precious FG%. :roll:

Watch the game, btw. Lackluster offensive performance? Kobe was at the steering wheel of the offense the entire time he was on the floor.

Speaking of assumptions, and anger.

[cotdt]

What's with all this talk about Lebron!? The article never even mentioned anything about Lebron.

:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

[Doranku]

Speaking of assumptions, and anger.

I don't get it. :confusedshrug:

[RealKnowledge]

Kobe should have said the same thing about DURANT after game 3... Where dURANT shut kobe down... 1-9 SHOOTING...


Derrick Rose said that Lebron was the best when Lebron guarded him...

What has kobe done in the past vs guys that actually have a overall offensive game at his position.? RIP, PPIERCE, RAY ALLEN, MELO... Kobe knows who he can guard and who he can't.. You didn't see Kobe asking to guard Nash in those first round exits.. It would have been smart for him to defend Nash and let smush guard Bell... Never happened...
Lol don't make stuff up bro. Rose said Lebron is one of the best players in the league if not the best. He never straight up said he was the best


Which one of those guys in A CAVS UNIFORM would you trade Gasol for? Or even Odom? :lol

That Cavs team were horrible without Lebron when he sat, the Lakers were very good to great when Kobe sat... Huge difference in teammates... The Lakers have bigs who can score and defend.. Odom would be the second best player on the Cavs.. Shaq is in my opinion the second best player in a Cavs uniform but you cannot expect him to play well everynight...

Lakers would trade Odom for Mo williams anyday

[Leviathon1121]

What's with all this talk about Lebron!? The article never even mentioned anything about Lebron.

:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

It also never had Westbrook saying he wasn't ready for Kobe.

[Leviathon1121]

I don't get it. :confusedshrug:

"You probably don't though, you never have to with LeBron since he just holds the ball so he doesn't hurt his precious FG%."

Assumption (wrong at that), and anger, seemed pretty obvious to me.

[LA_Showtime]

"You probably don't though, you never have to with LeBron since he just holds the ball so he doesn't hurt his precious FG%."

Assumption (wrong at that), and anger, seemed pretty obvious to me.

LeBron actually does do that. It depends how he's playing. He'll occasionally throw the ball at the basket, but he usually waits until time has expired. Nothing wrong with it, the majority of the NBA does it.

[raptorfan_dr07]

Still nobody answered my question.

Di Westbrook really say "I wasn't ready for Kobe"?

Cuz it seems to me like Artest said it.

What's up OP? Too much STAN in your mind u begin to make things up

He didn't. Artest did. The OP is a known Kobe c*m guzzler with a history of starting these kinds of threads with distorted quotes. His threads will attract the pathetic Kobe n*thuggers that are littered throughout: Doranku, KobeRules24, BlackMambaLivin, KAJ=GOAT, etc. People who were MIA during the first 4 games of the series, and suddenly come out of the woodwork. The Lakers lose Game 6 and Kobe shoots his usual sub 40% and they will disappear for another couple of days.

[MakeHistory78]

Only a moron can think that Kobe is the best player in the game...
LeBron is by far the best player in the world the last two years.

[Pha Q]

Only a moron can think that Kobe is the best player in the game...
LeBron is by far the best player in the world the last two years.


I guess WESTBROOK is a moron then...he's in the NBA playing against KOBE...and your the one at HOME typing BULL$HIT....hmmmmm who to believe...someone who's actually played against KOBE? Or someone just reading STATS?? HMMM :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

[MakeHistory78]

I guess WESTBROOK is a moron then...he's in the NBA playing against KOBE...and your the one at HOME typing BULL$HIT....hmmmmm who to believe...someone who's actually played against KOBE? Or someone just reading STATS?? HMMM :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:
Yes he is moron!And you are also.How old are you?17-18?
What about Magic Johnson last Sunday?Kobe's idol......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXDR-P9uICQ&playnext_from=TL&videos=1sQeOs4Kdy0

Don't compare Kobe to LeBron...

The biggest difference between Kobe and LeBron is that Kobe has no chance to be the GOAT.Kobe was/is nowhere to the GOAT Michael Jordan..
But LeBron has a small chance to challenge Michael..

[Pha Q]

Yes he is moron!And you are also.How old are you?17-18?
What about Magic Johnson last Sunday?Kobe's idol......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXDR-P9uICQ&playnext_from=TL&videos=1sQeOs4Kdy0

Don't compare Kobe to LeBron...

The biggest difference between Kobe and LeBron is that Kobe has no chance to be the GOAT.Kobe was/is nowhere to the GOAT Michael Jordan..
But LeBron has a small chance to challenge Michael..


Dude...just STOP already....KOBE has a chance LEBRON DOESNT....LEBRON has 0 RINGS!!!!! KOBE HAS 4........LEBRONZE can get all the STATS he wants....but unless he wins RINGS...he AINT SHIT

[imnew09]

Yes he is moron!And you are also.How old are you?17-18?
What about Magic Johnson last Sunday?Kobe's idol......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXDR-P9uICQ&playnext_from=TL&videos=1sQeOs4Kdy0

Don't compare Kobe to LeBron...

The biggest difference between Kobe and LeBron is that Kobe has no chance to be the GOAT.Kobe was/is nowhere to the GOAT Michael Jordan..
But LeBron has a small chance to challenge Michael..

yea sure, Lebron 0 rings, MJ = 6rings
i guess Lebron will surpasses Mj
HAHAHHA WAKE UP!!

[Pha Q]

You JORDAN fans are fukking funny as ****.....how the HELL does LEBRON have a chance of being better than jordan when he hasnt even won 1 ring yet? LOL u peice of $hit

[MakeHistory78]

Because you are both idiots 17 yrs old..let me say this..

Jordan won his 1st ring at the age of 28..LeBron is 25.
I said he has a small chance.It's difficult for every player to challenge MJ but LeBron is the only one who has a small chance.
Kobe NEVER.He hasn't GOAT potential.
Kobe has 4 rings?Yes,but only one as the leader of his team..The other 3 was Shaq's team..So GTFO
And he has only 1 MVP and he'll never win another....

[Pha Q]

Because you are both idiots 17 yrs old..let me say this..

Jordan won his 1st ring at the age of 28..LeBron is 25.
I said he has a small chance.It's difficult for every player to challenge MJ but LeBron is the only one who has a small chance.
Kobe NEVER.He hasn't GOAT potential.
Kobe has 4 rings?Yes,but only one as the leader of his team..The other 3 was Shaq's team..So GTFO
And he has only 1 MVP and he'll never win another....


SHAQS TEAM? LOL...SHAQ needed KOBE and KOBE needed SHAQ...So you STFU *****...you swear SHAQ could of DONE it by himself....JORDAN had PIPPEN, RODMAN, KERR....etc...so man...just STFU...JORDAN NEVER won it by himself...u piece of monkey $hit

[Pha Q]

Yes he is moron!And you are also.How old are you?17-18?
What about Magic Johnson last Sunday?Kobe's idol......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXDR-P9uICQ&playnext_from=TL&videos=1sQeOs4Kdy0

Don't compare Kobe to LeBron...

The biggest difference between Kobe and LeBron is that Kobe has no chance to be the GOAT.Kobe was/is nowhere to the GOAT Michael Jordan..
But LeBron has a small chance to challenge Michael..


People like you make FANS look so bad....****ing LEBRON nut hugger

[MakeHistory78]

SHAQS TEAM? LOL...SHAQ needed KOBE and KOBE needed SHAQ...So you STFU *****...you swear SHAQ could of DONE it by himself....JORDAN had PIPPEN, RODMAN, KERR....etc...so man...just STFU...JORDAN NEVER won it by himself...u piece of monkey $hit
Be careful because your mouth is bigger than your ****in ass...

[Leviathon1121]

LeBron actually does do that. It depends how he's playing. He'll occasionally throw the ball at the basket, but he usually waits until time has expired. Nothing wrong with it, the majority of the NBA does it.

:roll: For somebody who occasionally throws the ball at the basket, he sure does have a lot of makes on youtube. He must just be godly when it comes to these shots.

Or it could be that what was originally said is just another asinine attempt to try and explain why Kobe > LeBron.

Yah, I am leaning towards the latter.

[LA_Showtime]

:roll: For somebody who occasionally throws the ball at the basket, he sure does have a lot of makes on youtube. He must just be godly when it comes to these shots.

Or it could be that what was originally said is just another asinine attempt to try and explain why Kobe > LeBron.

Yah, I am leaning towards the latter.

So you're telling me that post I made = Kobe is better than LeBron? Wow.

[zizozain]

best player in the league MUST be mentally stable
LBJ is not .. so kobe is the best

[Hotlantadude81]

Kobe is not the best player in the game. He is a top 5 player that is slightly past his prime. Just so slightly... But the signs are there. His defense isn't terrible, but it isn't all that it's made out to be either.

[Kingwillball]

Funny how all Some LA fans try to talk themselves into believing Kobe is better than Bron..But there is not 1 of them that wouldn't trade Kobe straight up for Bron right now if given the chance..

[AirJordan&Magic]

The agendas by the homers in these threads are ridiculous.......Let's just get this out of the way.

- LeBron is EASILY the best player in the game as of now. (As of January 2010)
- Kobe is still one of the best defenders in the league when he is dedicated to that end of the floor.

Kobe played amazing defense in game 5 against the player who gave La fits all series. Anyone denying it is a bitter clown.

[NBASTATMAN]

Um, no. LeBron averaged like 35/8/8 against the Bulls. He's also shooting like 20% higher than Kobe from the field. :oldlol:


I may think you are a imbecile but you do come up with the truth at times..:oldlol:

Anyone who doesn't think that Lebron would win titles with the current laker roster is nuts... That team was better without Kobe than with him at the end of the season...

[NBASTATMAN]

The agendas by the homers in these threads are ridiculous.......Let's just get this out of the way.

- LeBron is EASILY the best player in the game as of now. (As of January 2010)
- Kobe is still one of the best defenders in the league when he is dedicated to that end of the floor.

Kobe played amazing defense in game 5 against the player who gave La fits all series. Anyone denying it is a bitter clown.


Kobe had one good defensive game and people are annointing him a great defender.. If that is true then Durant is a better defender than Kobe cuz he totally shut kobe down all series when matched with each other.. And kobe really has had no chance guarding Durant...

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

Kobe had one good defensive game and people are annointing him a great defender.. If that is true then Durant is a better defender than Kobe cuz he totally shut kobe down all series when matched with each other.. And kobe really has had no chance guarding Durant...

???
He defended Westbrook only one game.
Defending Thabo was no problem... for anyone.

[AirJordan&Magic]

[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]Where was it vs Paul Pierce and Ray Allen in the finals 2008? :roll:


I guess he didn't want to defend in that series...[/QUOTE/]

You are right and I understand that there are some Kobe homers in here trying to act as if Kobe nowadays is the second coming of Walt Frazier defensively but you cannot deny that from 1999-2003, Kobe Bryant was easily one of the top 1-5 perimeter defenders in the league.

Why do you mention the 2004 and 2008 finals but not mention the 2000 Nba finals and his defense on Reggie Miller in that series?....

In game 1 Kobe held Reggie Miller to 1 for 16 shooting from the field and had 2 blocks for the game.
In the closing seconds of game 4, Kobe forced Reggie Miller into a miss that would have tied the series 2-2.
In game 6, Kobe did a great job on Reggie as well (ball denial, forcing Reggie into a mediocre shooting night, 2 blocks and 1 steal).
Overall, Reggie shot 41% from the field in the series. Though looking at fg% sometimes isn't really the best way to determine how well a player played in a series, Reggie definetly was flustered by Kobe's defense and didnt play well.

Kobe is no Pippen, Frazier, or Payton on the defensive end and his d tends to get overrated by some....but to act as if he is just some average defender is foolish in my opinion.

[Pha Q]

I wonder what people will say "IF" lebron doesnt make it to the FINALS...."he didnt have good teamates like kobe blah blah blah" LOL

Lebron nut huggers will ALWAYS have an excuse when they lose...."REFS HELPED THE OTHER TEAM"

[AirJordan&Magic]

Kobe had one good defensive game and people are annointing him a great defender.. If that is true then Durant is a better defender than Kobe cuz he totally shut kobe down all series when matched with each other.. And kobe really has had no chance guarding Durant...

He only matched up with Kobe in the end of game 3 or 4, one of those games. Kobe was struggling in the series without Durant's defense. Kobe defended the player who had kept the Thunders in the series and did an amazing job.
Why shouldn't he be annointed as a great defender when he has made 9 all defense teams (Even though about 4 of those aren't even legit :oldlol: ) and shut down the player who was giving the Lakers problems?

[LA_Showtime]

I may think you are a imbecile but you do come up with the truth at times..:oldlol:

Anyone who doesn't think that Lebron would win titles with the current laker roster is nuts... That team was better without Kobe than with him at the end of the season...

It's "an" imbecile, you imbecile. You use "an" instead of "a" because of the pronunciation.

[Jacks3]

Westbrok FG% through 4 games-55%
After Kobe switched on him for the last 2 games-33%

Kobe is amazing. Easily one of the greatest perimeter defenders ever.
NBA players know it too-http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1167381/index.htm

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[magnax1]

Is it just me, or does most every player in the league say Kobe is the best when asked?

[Batz]

Is it just me, or does most every player in the league say Kobe is the best when asked?
I know. I don't get why though...

[Jacks3]

Because Kobe gets by on pure skill whereas LBJ needs the refs to get it done.

[EllisGW]

Because Kobe gets by on pure skill whereas LBJ needs the refs to get it done.
you should find a new sport to watch because you dont understand basketball

[Jacks3]

oh, u mad. :rant

[catquickspider]

Because Kobe gets by on pure skill whereas LBJ needs the refs to get it done.

those are some words of wisdom :applause:

[EastCaliChillin]

Because Kobe gets by on pure skill whereas LBJ needs the refs to get it done.
Only Makes sense.
Or you can be a conspiracy theorist and say NBA player ALL have a agenda against Lebron lol

[liquidrage]

Westbrok FG% through 4 games-55%
After Kobe switched on him for the last 2 games-33%

Kobe is amazing. Easily one of the greatest perimeter defenders ever.
NBA players know it too-http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1167381/index.htm

:applause: :applause: :applause:

Westbrook basically shot 50% in game 6. You can look at the stats and make a real argument because 3 of his misses were last second heaves to end a quarter, and 2 more of his misses we're heaves when he was passed the ball as the shot clock was about to expire. He shot well in game 6 and was the Thunder's best offensive player in a 1 point loss.