View Full Version : Serge Ibaka's potential
MrUnstopable
04-30-2010, 10:14 PM
The future looks bright with this guy. Amazing athleticism and good touch. I wonder what kind of player he will become...
beasted86
04-30-2010, 10:17 PM
12 Ppg, 10 Reb, 2 Blk
MrUnstopable
04-30-2010, 10:23 PM
12 Ppg, 10 Reb, 2 Blk
For next year? Or his career?
beasted86
04-30-2010, 10:24 PM
Peak
bomber
04-30-2010, 10:25 PM
What Chris Wilcox never was. Well.. more raw athletic ability, less skill, same stats.
12 Ppg, 10 Reb, 2 Blk
Yeah, something like this at his best.
MrUnstopable
04-30-2010, 10:34 PM
I say more like 16 points 8 rebounds 3 blocks 55% shooting.. That I can see in three years.
Poodle
04-30-2010, 10:36 PM
i like him. he'd complete that team if he can develop into a top shot blocking, post game big man.
beasted86
04-30-2010, 10:42 PM
I say more like 16 points 8 rebounds 3 blocks 55% shooting.. That I can see in three years.
No. He'd have to improve double fold offensively.
Also I don't see how with Durant's shots, Westbrook's shots, Harden's shots, and either Green, or whoever they sign/trade for this summer with their cap space... and after all of those guys Ibaka still gets 16 PPG.
Will Westbrook, Harden, Green, etc... just not get better? Will the Thunder average 120 PPG?
MrUnstopable
04-30-2010, 10:44 PM
No. He'd have to improve double fold offensively.
Also I don't see how with Durant's shots, Westbrook's shots, Harden's shots, and either Green, or whoever they sign/trade for this summer with their cap space... and after all of those guys Ibaka still gets 16 PPG.
Will Westbrook, Harden, Green, etc... just not get better? Will the Thunder average 120 PPG?
3 years from now I doubt he will be on OKC.. Someone will pay him the money and OKC will have all of their money committed to those guys you just named.
The Nets
04-30-2010, 10:45 PM
He will be a decent player, but I cant see him averaging big numbers when playing alongside with Kevin Durant, Jeff Green and Russell Westbrook.
I dont see star player. All Star selections. I just see a solid role player. Plays to his strengths and doesnt get out of character trying to do things he cant or become something he isnt. Nice energy, hustle, shotblocker. OKC can keep him unless some moronic teams envision more and overpay him.
kunk75
05-01-2010, 12:24 AM
poor man's oakley?
ODEN>DURANT
05-01-2010, 01:09 AM
11/9/2 on 54%
KB2009Champ
05-01-2010, 01:11 AM
i'd love to have him on my team all day every day.
props to the thunder btw.
I've been hoping he could tun into Shawn Kemp
tgan3
05-01-2010, 02:06 AM
They say a young Shawn Kemp
blacknapalm
05-01-2010, 02:56 AM
shawn kemp? wtf?
i'd say his ceiling is that of prime marcus camby. he's still learning the game and camby has great b-ball IQ, but that's what i see his ceiling being.
realistically, i'll go with 14/9/2
El Kabong
05-01-2010, 02:59 AM
He'll be like a Marcin Gortat or a DeSagana Diop. He's decent, but then someone will wildly overpay for him, because that's what you do with bigmen. I would say he's potentially better then those two however.
brantonli
05-01-2010, 03:28 AM
Ibaka can definitely jump out of the building though, plus he is able to hit the open jumper, not like Diop or Gortat. But I agree with the guy who said he won't be with the Thunder for a long time.
Ever since I heard about him in the draft I thought he has mad potential. VERY athletic, strong, good shot blocker and a good hustler. He was the most athletic player in the 2007 draft (he was drafted in 2009 but his measurements are from 2007 draft)
jimmyzegg
05-01-2010, 06:34 AM
I agree with the guy who said he won't be with the Thunder for a long time.
7 year contract.
plowking
05-01-2010, 06:38 AM
An accountant. Maybe even an astronaut.
Dr Giggles
05-01-2010, 06:52 AM
As someone else said above, Camby is the best case scenario, maybe stronger But I think that is who he should model his game after. Kemp was an extremely smooth offensive player, and I don't see Serge with that kind of ability.
Dasher
05-01-2010, 07:38 AM
Joakim Noah.12ppg 11rpg 3bpg. He should get a couple of all defensive 2nd Team selections.
50inchvertical
05-01-2010, 08:25 AM
We have him locked up 4 more yrs for cheap, including the last 2 being player options. He was born in 89, so he will still be young enough after that to get his ridiculous Dalembert/Chandler/Okafor-esque big men always get overpaid extension.
Main thing I like about hm that he did this series was his defense on Lamar Odom. Somebody finally figured out Lamar is left handed and if you overplay him and force him right, he doesn't do anything.
wang4three
05-01-2010, 09:10 AM
Ben Wallace. 8/13/ 3 blocks
kurple
05-01-2010, 11:14 AM
He's good and I would love to have him on my team, but he's becoming really overrated. Ben Wallace or Shawn Kemp? Come on.
csklmf
05-01-2010, 07:51 PM
OKC has got to trade Jeff Green for a veteran SG + PF who knows how to postup under basket. And let Ibaka go to starting C or PF. Collison and Krstic as reserve.
nbastatus
05-01-2010, 07:52 PM
8/8/2
pete's montreux
05-01-2010, 07:55 PM
Joakim Noah is a good comparison. 12/11/3 on 50%+ easily
50inchvertical
05-01-2010, 08:07 PM
OKC has got to trade Jeff Green for a veteran SG + PF who knows how to postup under basket. And let Ibaka go to starting C or PF. Collison and Krstic as reserve.
I'd keep COllison if he can stay for cheap and let Krstic just expire. He's not worth 5.5 mil. You can throw that same money at Haywood along with a promise of a starting spot and not sitting on the bench wondering why Dampier is playing over you and see what happens.
GiveItToBurrito
05-01-2010, 08:13 PM
12 Ppg, 10 Reb, 2 Blk
This. I see him as a Birdman-type who probably shouldn't start but could wreak havoc off the bench.
Nets fan 93
05-01-2010, 10:11 PM
needs to learn to box out
Lebron23
05-01-2010, 10:53 PM
Next Dikembe Mutombo.
The_Yearning
03-22-2013, 03:18 AM
Same thing. He should be averaging 10+ rebounds by now.
Qwertyazerty
03-22-2013, 03:30 AM
13 points on 57%FG; 2.9BG; 7.8RPG; on 31 MPG. I think it is not bad for a role player. He is not ellite, not star calliber player but brings what you need him to bring. I'm sure if he focuses on rebounding he could do it better but it would have an impact on his BPG. Actually not only he is blocking at a high level, he is also altering opponents penetrations.
devin112
03-22-2013, 03:44 AM
poor man's oakley?
Horace Grant - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMErM4RdGz8
B4llin
03-22-2013, 04:43 AM
Same thing. He should be averaging 10+ rebounds by now.
If he was getting the minutes and was a focal point of the offence he would be an all star at least. He will be an all 9star in the future guaranteed. OKC don't want him at 20/10/5 blocks because someone would poach him from them.
Whoah10115
03-22-2013, 12:26 PM
I'm more curious about his potential as a defender. How many All-Defensive Teams is he gonna make because he blocks shots, tho he isn't anywhere near great.
andremiller07
03-22-2013, 08:17 PM
I'm more curious about his potential as a defender. How many All-Defensive Teams is he gonna make because he blocks shots, tho he isn't anywhere near great.
Could not agree more his man to man D is so-so at best
Graviton
03-22-2013, 08:37 PM
He is a terrible defender outside weak side blocks, has no defensive IQ or understanding of positioning or timing, hence why he isn't a great rebounder either. He just tries to outjump people.
On D he jumps on every damn pumpfake and gets destroyed by every decent big OKC face. There is a reason why Bosh rapes him and Perkins every time. Just as Griffin, Z-Bo and Duncan.
maybeshewill13
03-22-2013, 09:13 PM
If he was getting the minutes and was a focal point of the offence he would be an all star at least. He will be an all 9star in the future guaranteed. OKC don't want him at 20/10/5 blocks because someone would poach him from them.
:biggums: he's signed to a long term contract.
Djahjaga
03-22-2013, 10:16 PM
I say more like 16 points 8 rebounds 3 blocks 55% shooting.. That I can see in three years.
Ibaka's stats for the 2012-2013 season:
13.3 points, 7.8 rebounds, 2.9 blocks on 57% shooting.
Pretty damn close, especially compared to what everyone else said.
andremiller07
03-22-2013, 11:27 PM
If he was getting the minutes and was a focal point of the offence he would be an all star at least. He will be an all 9star in the future guaranteed. OKC don't want him at 20/10/5 blocks because someone would poach him from them.
lol hes not capable of doing 20/10 no where near it and 5 blocks a game are you serious? Im sure OKC would love for him to be 20/10 if he had any kind of post game or dribble drive moves or ability to draw fouls but he doesn't, he can only sit there and hit wide open shots and is easily shut down/disappears a lot.
KG215
03-22-2013, 11:29 PM
He's not going to be a 15-17 PPG scorer anytime soon, either, as long as there's 3 better established scorers than him. But he's giving us 13 PPG on good efficiency as the 4th option this year, and I'm fine with that. He will occasionally have a 20+ point game and he's got 15-19 point games littered throughout the season.
However, he's still got some holes in his game. He needs to be a better and more consistent rebounder. Some games he realizes he's an athletic freak, goes to work on the offensive glass, and finishes the game with 10+ boards. Other nights he just sort of disappears, isn't nearly assertive enough using his athleticism, and finishes with 5-7 rebounds. It's more of a mental thing than talent thing for the most part. And yes, his on-ball/man defense needs work. It's better this year (which isn't saying a whole lot) but he's still wildly inconsistent.
If Martin leaves after this year, then I can see him increasing his scoring up to 15 PPG, and he'll be a 15/9/3 player on 55%+ shooting.
andremiller07
03-22-2013, 11:32 PM
If Martin leaves after this year, and Ic an see him increasing his scoring up to 15 PPG, and he'll be a 15/9/3 player on 55%+ shooting.
Do you see any scenario where they maybe trade Ibaka if things go pear shaped in the playoffs?
KG215
03-23-2013, 12:42 AM
Do you see any scenario where they maybe trade Ibaka if things go pear shaped in the playoffs?
No, not really. Especially since they signed him before Harden, and ultimately traded Harden. Presti will probably trade younger pieces and assets before he trades Ibaka. He could probably package one or both of Lamb, PJ3, and Toronto's first round pick for a solid scoring big man.
B4llin
03-23-2013, 06:17 AM
lol hes not capable of doing 20/10 no where near it and 5 blocks a game are you serious? Im sure OKC would love for him to be 20/10 if he had any kind of post game or dribble drive moves or ability to draw fouls but he doesn't, he can only sit there and hit wide open shots and is easily shut down/disappears a lot.
He has been close to 5blcks per 36? Do you really think he coulnt do it in 40 minutes a game?
andremiller07
03-23-2013, 11:14 AM
He has been close to 5blcks per 36? Do you really think he coulnt do it in 40 minutes a game?
That would be an insane if he average 5 blocks but per 36 does not take into account many factors one being fatigue and also foul trouble. Who was the last person to average 5 blocks a game?
willds09
03-23-2013, 08:46 PM
His potential vanished rapidly in tha finals last year tho :facepalm
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