View Full Version : did shaq gain weight?
halffttime
05-01-2010, 09:38 PM
he looks a bit fatter.. just curious
GiveItToBurrito
05-01-2010, 09:46 PM
I agree. I think he just lacks the discipline to stay in shape, he's got to be forced to workout by playing games and going to practices.
twolvesfan
05-01-2010, 09:58 PM
he looks horrendous out there (not talking about his play...)
I'm not watching the game currently (so I won't give my perception of his size), but I thought there were reports that he had lost weight while he was out with his finger injury. :confusedshrug:
inclinerator
05-01-2010, 11:34 PM
no hickson did
TheAnchorman
05-01-2010, 11:36 PM
I'm not watching the game currently (so I won't give my perception of his size), but I thought there were reports that he had lost weight while he was out with his finger injury. :confusedshrug:
There are always reports that he lost weight. :roll:
he looks a bit fatter.. just curious
are u breathing? hell yeah the dude got fatter. he's huge. did u see the pic of him trying to swallow brad miller?:eek:
strifed169
05-01-2010, 11:43 PM
looks like hickson has been on that swine diet more so than shaq, my boy jj is gonna be the next amare, book it!!
DirkLegend41
05-02-2010, 12:10 AM
I thought it was reported he lost weight. Didn't one of the Cavs people say he looked like Orlando Magic Shaq? :oldlol:
Imagine what Shaq will look like in 10 years when he is retired and not playing professional basketball :eek:
asdf1990
05-02-2010, 12:16 AM
Imagine what Shaq will look like in 10 years when he is retired and not playing professional basketball :eek:
undercover cop http://blog.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/Sherriff%20Shaq.jpg
mlh1981
05-02-2010, 12:21 AM
If he did/didn't, it was no factor tonight. He moved great out there.
04mzwach
05-02-2010, 12:33 AM
He's old and slow, but he showed that he isn't completely done. I don't expect him back next season though. It would be a surprise.
undercover cop http://blog.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/Sherriff%20Shaq.jpg
The police work won't keep him in the shape he is now. I expect him to gain at least 100 pounds in the next 10 years. He could end up looking as Kevin Duckworth did, which is scary considering Duckworth died not too long ago.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RaOrchOImw8/SLhyw84NVhI/AAAAAAAADGk/fx7_oP0y2Ro/s400/duckworth_food.jpg
Rest in peace, Duck.
ShaqAttack3234
05-02-2010, 12:53 AM
The police work won't keep him in the shape he is now. I expect him to gain at least 100 pounds in the next 10 years. He could end up looking as Kevin Duckworth did, which is scary considering Duckworth died not too long ago.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RaOrchOImw8/SLhyw84NVhI/AAAAAAAADGk/fx7_oP0y2Ro/s400/duckworth_food.jpg
Rest in peace, Duck.
I highly doubt he'll look like Duckworth. Considering he loves being a celebrity and being in the spotlight, I doubt he'd let himself go like that. Plus, Shaq carries weight better than guys like Duckworth and Curry. Shaq was 303 at the pre-draft camp and he didn't look overweight at all then. He was 340 in training camp when he had that career season in 1999-2000. He weighed in at 382 before the 2002 playoffs, but carried it well and dominated.
Duckworth was suspended in Washington for weighing over 310, because he was visibly overweight and it was clear that he was out of shape at that weight. Shaq's ideal playing weight proved to be 340 and even at 382, he didn't look as fat as Eddy Curry did at 340-350. Compare Curry as a rookie who weighed in at 300 to Shaq at 303. Glen Davis also looks fatter than Shaq.
Kingwillball
05-02-2010, 12:56 AM
I highly doubt he'll look like Duckworth. Considering he loves being a celebrity and being in the spotlight, I doubt he'd let himself go like that. Plus, Shaq carries weight better than guys like Duckworth and Curry. Shaq was 303 at the pre-draft camp and he didn't look overweight at all then. He was 340 in training camp when he had that career season in 1999-2000. He weighed in at 382 before the 2002 playoffs, but carried it well and dominated.
Duckworth was suspended in Washington for weighing over 310, because he was visibly overweight and it was clear that he was out of shape at that weight. Shaq's ideal playing weight proved to be 340 and even at 382, he didn't look as fat as Eddy Curry did at 340-350. Compare Curry as a rookie who weighed in at 300 to Shaq at 303. Glen Davis also looks fatter than Shaq.
Good Points !
magnax1
05-02-2010, 12:59 AM
I thought he looked quite a bit skinnier since he came back from the injury. He doesn't look like he did in orlando, but probably close to 05 Heat or 00 Lakers which were probably his two only real fit years after 98.
inclinerator
05-02-2010, 01:15 AM
um he looked really skinny last yr with the suns
ShaqAttack3234
05-02-2010, 01:19 AM
I thought he looked quite a bit skinnier since he came back from the injury. He doesn't look like he did in orlando, but probably close to 05 Heat or 00 Lakers which were probably his two only real fit years after 98.
In 2001, he looked similar to how he looked in 2000, particularly as the season went on.
magnax1
05-02-2010, 01:25 AM
In 2001, he looked similar to how he looked in 2000, particularly as the season went on.
Probably true.
beermonsteroo
05-02-2010, 04:00 AM
It really hurts seeing Shaq like that. Well it is hrting for quiet a couple of years now actually. If Shaq wasn't such a lazy ass he could have been a legit GOAT contender. Even now at age 38 he could still dropp around 22/11 easily if he only was in a bteer physical condition. At around 330 pounds Shaq would still be the best big man in the game easily.
Imagine Shaq would have stayed around 320pounds for the most of his career. Stats wise he would be the GOAT most certainly.
EastCaliChillin
05-02-2010, 04:04 AM
He will be EXACTLY like Barkley. But being 7'1 and having a bigger frame it will be nasty
OmniStrife
05-02-2010, 07:12 AM
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Fallguy20
05-02-2010, 07:17 AM
At his size, fluctuations between 10-30 pounds are not too... excessive?
OmniStrife
05-02-2010, 07:31 AM
At his size, fluctuations between 10-30 pounds are not too... excessive?
Yeah, he's probably losing as much while taking a dump.
:roll:
ShaqAttack3234
05-02-2010, 08:59 AM
It's funny when you hear talk about how Shaq's career could have lasted longer, be thankful his body as held up as well as it has. The man is 7'2", 340, hell, he's been over 380 and is not only the most physical player in NBA history, but also one of the most explosive. He's 38 and in his 18th season, hell, he was a deserving all-star just last year.
I mean, look at Ralph Sampson, not much taller than Shaq and 100 pounds lighter, but he had 3 good seasons before injuries destroyed his career. Hell, look at Walton, 7'0", maybe 250-260 and he had only had 1 season where he played atleast 70 games, Greg Oden, who is 7'0" and 280 has played the equivalent of 1 full season since being drafted 3 years ago, Brad Daugherty at 7'0" and 270 was out of the league before age 30 and Yao at 7'5"-7'6" and 310-320 who has been injured every season at one point starting in his 4th year. Hell, Bynum is 7'1" and 280, and he also can't stay healthy.
miller-time
05-02-2010, 09:13 AM
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damn you can see his age in that photo.
jlauber
05-02-2010, 09:18 AM
There have been very few CENTERS who have performed well after age 35 or so. 35 seems to be the cut-off point for even the greats.
At age 36 Shaq led the NBA in FG% with a .609 mark, and averaged 17.8. His only weaknesses, as was with virtually every other great center except Chamberlain,...was in rebounding and defense. Shaq averaged 8.4 rpg at age 36, Kareem was at 7.3, Olajuwon (in a 50 game season) was at 9.3 rpg, Robinson was at 8.3, Ewing at 9.9, and players like Russell and Thurmond were done before 35.
Chamberlain was in BETTER shape at age 36 than he had been just a couple of years before (following major knee surgery.) All Wilt did in his final season, at age 36, and over 300 lbs, was lead the NBA in rebounding at 18.6 rpg...in 43.2 mpg, and was 1st team all-defense, and he set a FG% mark of .727 that will probably never be approached, much less broken. Perhaps even more remarkably, Wilt averaged 47.1 mpg in the post-season that year, and ran away with the best rebounding mark in the playoffs at 22.5 rpg. And there were MANY who believe that Wilt could have continued to be a dominant player even into his 40's.
In any case, history shows that Shaq has actually done quite well at his advanced age. One can only wonder, though, if he had taken care of himself like Wilt did (even into his early 60's BTW) how much greater he could have been.
Here is a picture of Wilt in his mid-50's, and Shaq in his early 20's.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/patwiltshaq.jpg
beermonsteroo
05-02-2010, 11:45 AM
There have been very few CENTERS who have performed well after age 35 or so. 35 seems to be the cut-off point for even the greats.
At age 36 Shaq led the NBA in FG% with a .609 mark, and averaged 17.8. His only weaknesses, as was with virtually every other great center except Chamberlain,...was in rebounding and defense. Shaq averaged 8.4 rpg at age 36, Kareem was at 7.3, Olajuwon (in a 50 game season) was at 9.3 rpg, Robinson was at 8.3, Ewing at 9.9, and players like Russell and Thurmond were done before 35.
Chamberlain was in BETTER shape at age 36 than he had been just a couple of years before (following major knee surgery.) All Wilt did in his final season, at age 36, and over 300 lbs, was lead the NBA in rebounding at 18.6 rpg...in 43.2 mpg, and was 1st team all-defense, and he set a FG% mark of .727 that will probably never be approached, much less broken. Perhaps even more remarkably, Wilt averaged 47.1 mpg in the post-season that year, and ran away with the best rebounding mark in the playoffs at 22.5 rpg. And there were MANY who believe that Wilt could have continued to be a dominant player even into his 40's.
In any case, history shows that Shaq has actually done quite well at his advanced age. One can only wonder, though, if he had taken care of himself like Wilt did (even into his early 60's BTW) how much greater he could have been.
Here is a picture of Wilt in his mid-50's, and Shaq in his early 20's.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/patwiltshaq.jpg
That image is always amazing. Ewing and O'Neal look like out of shape midgests next to a mid 50es Wilt. Simply Amazing!:applause: :applause:
jlauber
05-02-2010, 12:29 PM
That image is always amazing. Ewing and O'Neal look like out of shape midgests next to a mid 50es Wilt. Simply Amazing!:applause: :applause:
Here is footage of Chamberlain's game five of the '72 Finals...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMyFm2wlsFA&feature=related
He was 35 at the time, and had just come off a sensational game six against Kareem in the WCF's. In that WCF's, Wilt blocked 15 of Kareem's "sky-hooks", and generally held his own against Abdul-Jabbar in the playoffs that season. AND, Kareem was at his statistical peak that year, as well. So, Wilt, at age 35, and playing on a surgically repaired knee, (and with arthritis in the other) battled an 11 year younger Kareem, in his prime, to something along the lines of a draw. In fact, Sport Magazine hailed it as a "decisive" win for Wilt over Kareem. Wilt would go on to win the Finals MVP that year, as well.
One can only wonder what a Chamberlain, at his peak, circa 66-68, would have done against a prime Kareem (or anyone else.)
Incidently, Wilt was offered LEGITIMATE NBA contracts in his 40's...and even into his 50's! Larry Brown witnessed Wilt take over a summer league game in 1980 that featured Magic and Marques Johnson...and Wilt was in his mid-40's at the time. A few years later Kiki Van de Wege witnessed Chamberlain overpower 7-4 Mark Eaton, and throw down a thunderous dunk on him...and Wilt was in his late 40's at the time.
In any case, there has probably never been another athlete who was in better shape in his 50's, than Chamberlain.
davidenk0
05-02-2010, 12:33 PM
damn you can see his age in that photo.
And his belly.
ShaqAttack3234
05-02-2010, 05:29 PM
That image is always amazing. Ewing and O'Neal look like out of shape midgests next to a mid 50es Wilt. Simply Amazing!:applause: :applause:
The photo is tilted in Wilt's favor there, Shaq actually looks taller there due to his much bigger head(though in basketball terms, Wilt would probably be longer because head and neck are considered wasted height in basketball).
Samurai Swoosh
05-02-2010, 05:34 PM
That image is always amazing. Ewing and O'Neal look like out of shape midgests next to a mid 50es Wilt. Simply Amazing!:applause: :applause:
The **** are you looking. None of those three look out of shape, and none of them look like midgets.
:oldlol:
jlauber
05-02-2010, 06:53 PM
Not sure how much, if any height, that Wilt might have lost by age 50, or so...but IMHO, and disputing even Chamberlain himself, who claimed he was "only" 7-1 1/16...I truly believe Wilt was at least 7-2 to 7-2 1/2. And, by extension, Kareem at perhaps 7-3. I also believe Shaq to be taller than 7-1, based on his height advantage over Robinson and Divac, which was easily an inch or more. And Ewing does look considerably shorter than either.
I recall the 71-72 NBA-ABA All-Star game, and before the game started, the commentators mentioned that Wilt was noticeably taller than 7-2 Gilmore...and that was even with his afro. And, of course, during the game he not only looked taller, and much bigger, but he easily outjumped him, as well. In addition, in their limited minutes on the floor, Wilt pushed him around for an easy dunk, and skied to swat two of his shots.
KenneBell
05-02-2010, 08:08 PM
The **** are you looking. None of those three look out of shape, and none of them look like midgets.
:oldlol:
Seriously. Put 99-01 Shaq out there next to Chamberlain and retake that picture. :oldlol:
magnax1
05-02-2010, 08:50 PM
It really hurts seeing Shaq like that. Well it is hrting for quiet a couple of years now actually. If Shaq wasn't such a lazy ass he could have been a legit GOAT contender. Even now at age 38 he could still dropp around 22/11 easily if he only was in a bteer physical condition. At around 330 pounds Shaq would still be the best big man in the game easily.
Imagine Shaq would have stayed around 320pounds for the most of his career. Stats wise he would be the GOAT most certainly.
I hadn't really thought about it, but thats probably true. Especially if he kept his weight down around his Orlando weight his whole career. Considering how well he played in Phoenix, (probably mostly because of Phoenix's training staff) he definitely could've been a 20-10 guy at this point.
ShaqAttack3234
05-02-2010, 10:08 PM
I hadn't really thought about it, but thats probably true. Especially if he kept his weight down around his Orlando weight his whole career. Considering how well he played in Phoenix, (probably mostly because of Phoenix's training staff) he definitely could've been a 20-10 guy at this point.
18 years in the league even at 320ish, he wouldn't be a 20/10 guy. Last year in Phoenix he played great, but averaged 18/8 on 61% shooting, he just wouldn't be playing enough minutes at his age to average 20/10. I mean loo at Duncan, he's much younger, was always probably around 260-270ish and he only played 31 mpg this season. It's hard for a big man's body to hold up, and keep in mind that Duncan also wasn't as physical as Shaq.
jlauber
05-02-2010, 11:02 PM
18 years in the league even at 320ish, he wouldn't be a 20/10 guy. Last year in Phoenix he played great, but averaged 18/8 on 61% shooting, he just wouldn't be playing enough minutes at his age to average 20/10. I mean loo at Duncan, he's much younger, was always probably around 260-270ish and he only played 31 mpg this season. It's hard for a big man's body to hold up, and keep in mind that Duncan also wasn't as physical as Shaq.
Here again...Wilt is the exception. At age 36 he averaged 43.2 mpg...and then in the playoffs, in his final season, he averaged 47.1. Of course BOTH were BELOW his career averages of 45.2 mpg during the regular season, and 47.2 mpg in his 160 career post-season games. In addition to his staggering rebounding and FG% marks, as well as 1st-team all-defense, in his last season, he probably led the NBA in blocked shots. I believe Psileas had some documentation of around 7 bpg.
And in Wilt's FINAL NBA game he put up a 23-21 game.
I always admired Kareem, who was still among the best players in the league in late 30's, and Shaq, who, as I said before, has had a long and brilliant career...but IMHO Chamberlain was truly a one-of-kind athlete.
Here is footage of Chamberlain's game five of the '72 Finals...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMyFm2wlsFA&feature=related
He was 35 at the time, and had just come off a sensational game six against Kareem in the WCF's. In that WCF's, Wilt blocked 15 of Kareem's "sky-hooks", and generally held his own against Abdul-Jabbar in the playoffs that season. AND, Kareem was at his statistical peak that year, as well. So, Wilt, at age 35, and playing on a surgically repaired knee, (and with arthritis in the other) battled an 11 year younger Kareem, in his prime, to something along the lines of a draw. In fact, Sport Magazine hailed it as a "decisive" win for Wilt over Kareem. Wilt would go on to win the Finals MVP that year, as well.
One can only wonder what a Chamberlain, at his peak, circa 66-68, would have done against a prime Kareem (or anyone else.)
Incidently, Wilt was offered LEGITIMATE NBA contracts in his 40's...and even into his 50's! Larry Brown witnessed Wilt take over a summer league game in 1980 that featured Magic and Marques Johnson...and Wilt was in his mid-40's at the time. A few years later Kiki Van de Wege witnessed Chamberlain overpower 7-4 Mark Eaton, and throw down a thunderous dunk on him...and Wilt was in his late 40's at the time.
In any case, there has probably never been another athlete who was in better shape in his 50's, than Chamberlain.
Why does Wilt step a foot behind the ft line when he shoots FTs?
magnax1
05-02-2010, 11:13 PM
18 years in the league even at 320ish, he wouldn't be a 20/10 guy. Last year in Phoenix he played great, but averaged 18/8 on 61% shooting, he just wouldn't be playing enough minutes at his age to average 20/10. I mean loo at Duncan, he's much younger, was always probably around 260-270ish and he only played 31 mpg this season. It's hard for a big man's body to hold up, and keep in mind that Duncan also wasn't as physical as Shaq.
Exactly, last year he averaged 18-8, and played comparable to many of his earlier seasons. I think that without doubt, if he played around 335 his whole career, hed easily be a 20-10 guy that year, and maybe even this year. I mean, why wouldn't he be, especially if he was the focal point of the offense like he was last year, and Kareem was into his late 30's.
ShaqAttack3234
05-02-2010, 11:19 PM
Exactly, last year he averaged 18-8, and played comparable to many of his earlier seasons. I think that without doubt, if he played around 335 his whole career, hed easily be a 20-10 guy that year, and maybe even this year. I mean, why wouldn't he be, especially if he was the focal point of the offense like he was last year, and Kareem was into his late 30's.
Shaq last season was not comparable to his earlier seasons and the reason why he wouldn't be a 20/10 guy is injuries and stamina. I mean even at 335 throughout his career(and he was only noticeably more than that a few seasons), that'd still be a hell of a lot of pounding on his knees considering how he use to jump, he'd still be getting hacked nighly and as I pointed out, look at how many other 7 footers who are smaller than Shaq have struggled with injuries.
ILLsmak
05-02-2010, 11:19 PM
It's weird. vs the Bulls he looked thin, but if it's possible it looks like he put on weight SINCE then. He does look heavier again, but not as heavy as he was at the beginning of the season.
-Smak
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