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CeoTypeDoe619
05-11-2010, 11:28 PM
LeBron James scored just 15 points on 3-of-14 shooting in Tuesday's crushing 120-88 defeat -- it was the largest margin of defeat in team playoff history, and things got so bad that LeBron was booed by the home crowd.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NBA&id=927


Embarrassing Much? Looks like the whole Cleveland Fanbase might agree with PleezeBelive Last thread

RaceBannana
05-11-2010, 11:40 PM
I didn

cotdt
05-11-2010, 11:46 PM
Lebron smiling during press conference wearing a lot of gold bling bling

"i don't think paul pierce shot well either"

"we had a great flow going"

"my elbow feels perfectly well, i had no problems with it"

"i'm not a huge motivational type guy to my team, i just play"

"umm, our intensity was there, it just doesn't seem like it when we lose by 30 plus points"

"it can become a short season" *rubs his chin*

What strikes me is that Lebron looks bored and says everything lackadaisically. I wonder what is really going thru his mind.

Kingwillball
05-11-2010, 11:52 PM
Lost alot of Respect For lebron Right now..Only way he can Salvage Rep is to have big games and Win Gm's 6 and 7.

strike first
05-11-2010, 11:58 PM
yea you think he would be enraged or on the brink of tears or something.. instead he looked more interested in showing off his jewelry :oldlol:

lebron surprising us from all angles tonight

Pharcyde
05-12-2010, 12:01 AM
I wonder what is really going thru his mind.

"I bet it's going to be fun to play with Derrick Rose next year."

Babalu
05-12-2010, 12:01 AM
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3342/sterncavs.jpg

The_Yearning
05-12-2010, 12:04 AM
This niggga looked like he was more worried about showing off this gold bling bling then the playoffs

CeoTypeDoe619
05-12-2010, 12:05 AM
He's not a winner period.

Kobe, Jordan would be throwing fits

CeoTypeDoe619
05-12-2010, 12:06 AM
[QUOTE=RaceBannana]I didn

OneMoreSucka
05-12-2010, 12:07 AM
He's not a winner period.

Kobe, Jordan would be throwing fits
Neither kobe or jordan would "throw fits"...

lilIlyasova
05-12-2010, 12:08 AM
He's probably been thinking about the free lifetime lap dances and steaks he's being offered if he signs with the Knicks.

YouGotServed
05-12-2010, 12:09 AM
What do you want him to say?

Yeah, we've lost some confidence and I doubt we can win in Boston. :rolleyes:

Clocian-IGN
05-12-2010, 12:11 AM
he'll be worried after game 6

lilIlyasova
05-12-2010, 12:12 AM
What a glorious end to Lebrons career as a cavalier. This organization will ever have a player even close to his caliber ever again and what do they do on his last home game in a Cavs jersey? boo him off the court. Ridiculous.

OneMoreSucka
05-12-2010, 12:12 AM
They were booing the whole ****ing team, not Lebron.

YouGotServed
05-12-2010, 12:13 AM
[QUOTE=RaceBannana]I didn

Go Getter
05-12-2010, 12:13 AM
Neither kobe or jordan would "throw fits"...
:lol

on camera that is.

CeoTypeDoe619
05-12-2010, 12:13 AM
They were booing the whole ****ing team, not Lebron.
They were booing after he missed a FT in the 4th so i think they were booing him

lilIlyasova
05-12-2010, 12:15 AM
They were booing after he missed a FT in the 4th so i think they were booing him
I have no idea what Lebron was even thinking playing the way he did, he just chucked up a few ugly jumpers and hardly drove even though the refs bailed him out the few times he did.

Did he want to lose on purpose? I wonder what will ESPN say about this? The announcers seemed like they were just simply trying to avoid the subject of Lebron playing so passively.

BrentISballin
05-12-2010, 12:16 AM
Cleveland fans are spoiled now, I hope Lebron leaves so they can realize what they had. Home fans should never boo their team

lilIlyasova
05-12-2010, 12:17 AM
I notice that ESPN tends to hype up every single thing Lebron does. I am watching You got served on BET right now so cant tune in to ESPN, but I wonder if they will try to defend Lebron after this horrible performance by him or if they will simply avoid the subject. Do they actually have the cajones to call out and criticize Lebron's bad game 5?

Batz
05-12-2010, 12:17 AM
He honestly looked/sounded like he didn't care... On the court and during the press conference. :wtf:

CeoTypeDoe619
05-12-2010, 12:17 AM
I have no idea what Lebron was even thinking playing the way he did, he just chucked up a few ugly jumpers and hardly drove even though the refs bailed him out the few times he did.

Did he want to lose on purpose? I wonder what will ESPN say about this? The announcers seemed like they were just simply trying to avoid the subject of Lebron playing so passively.
I think Cleveland is more upset with his effort then the bad shooting. Looked like he was purposely sabotaging the game. You're right about the refs. They felt bad for him

6thManOfTheYear
05-12-2010, 12:18 AM
I notice that ESPN tends to hype up every single thing Lebron does. I am watching You got served on BET right now so cant tune in to ESPN, but I wonder if they will try to defend Lebron after this horrible performance by him or if they will simply avoid the subject. Do they actually have the cajones to call out and criticize Lebron's bad game 5?

:oldlol:

VishaltotheG
05-12-2010, 12:18 AM
I notice that ESPN tends to hype up every single thing Lebron does. I am watching You got served on BET right now so cant tune in to ESPN, but I wonder if they will try to defend Lebron after this horrible performance by him or if they will simply avoid the subject. Do they actually have the cajones to call out and criticize Lebron's bad game 5?

theyll say his teammates sucked

Batz
05-12-2010, 12:18 AM
[QUOTE=RaceBannana]I didn

OneMoreSucka
05-12-2010, 12:18 AM
People actually watch BET? :oldlol:

Skip Bayless
05-12-2010, 12:18 AM
Oh, I will get him gooood tomorrow.

10:00am est

CeoTypeDoe619
05-12-2010, 12:19 AM
Cleveland fans are spoiled now, I hope Lebron leaves so they can realize what they had. Home fans should never boo their team
How are they spoiled? For being able to see a guy get a bunch of individual accomplishments? The city wants a championship not the best record in NBA 2 years in a row

LBJFTW
05-12-2010, 12:20 AM
Something is mentally wrong with Lebron right now. Has nothing to do with any elbow BS. The guy looked completely not intrested in playing.

lilIlyasova
05-12-2010, 12:20 AM
People actually watch BET? :oldlol:
I was flipping channels and saw you got served and You Got Served was on, I realized I never saw it before and watched abit and it is this fat black grandma just gives her kid $1500 to enter a dance contest, and I was like "Omg I have to watch this" and it is on BET. Now they are training by dancing shirtless in the rain omg.


ANYWAYS ON TOPIC-What has ESPN said so far about Lebron?

hawksdogsbraves
05-12-2010, 12:22 AM
It will suck if Lebron's last memory of playing in Cleveland as a Cav is going to be getting booed by a half empty arena as he walked back to the locker room after a 30 point beat down in a crucial playoff game.

KenneBell
05-12-2010, 12:22 AM
"i'm not a huge motivational type guy to my team, i just play"

Now come on. All I heard during the Olympics was the exact opposite. I'm not buying that and I bet Cavs fans don't either.

White Chocolate
05-12-2010, 12:25 AM
2007- Swept in the Finals
2008- Out in 2nd round
2009- Lost in ECF with 66-16 record and league best record
2010- League best record again and facing elimination in round 2


I'm not knocking LeBron at all as a player. But every year, there's always an excuse and LeBron gets a pass. There's no scorers, there's no good defensive center, no intimidation in the paint, no one else to score. This year, they have Shaq in the paint(regardless of age, he's still an intimidating force), Antawn Jamison, Mo Williams, Anthony Parker, Jamario Moon, Z, Delonte West, and Sideshow Bob.


Anything short of a title and especially out before the Finals, what will the excuse be?

JDRCRASHER
05-12-2010, 12:26 AM
This is very unusual, the way LeBron was playing.

LBJFTW
05-12-2010, 12:27 AM
The NBA's greatest star just had a mental breakdown. This is a sad day indeed.

lilIlyasova
05-12-2010, 12:27 AM
Atleast Cavs will have enough cap space one Lebron leaves to offer Joe Johnson the max.

OneMoreSucka
05-12-2010, 12:27 AM
His excuse will be "our fans weren't as good as those of New York and Madison Square Garden"

BallsOut
05-12-2010, 12:28 AM
1)elbow
2)Mike Brown
3)Mo Williams choker
4)Verajao can't shoot
5)Shaq is old
6)Jamison can't defend
7)Parker sucks
8)Moon doing harlem globetrotter tricks during game
9)West being bipolar
10)Big Z too slow
and so on and so forth.. :confusedshrug:

Kingwillball
05-12-2010, 12:28 AM
He honestly looked/sounded like he didn't care... On the court and during the press conference. :wtf:


I have watched almost Every Game the Guy has ever played something is Not right with the Dude..He has Mentally checked out it seems.

jbot
05-12-2010, 12:29 AM
They were booing the whole ****ing team, not Lebron.
most likely but he IS the team really. what a way to help him want to stay, retards.

Batz
05-12-2010, 12:30 AM
His headband was too tight.

Kingwillball
05-12-2010, 12:30 AM
1)elbow
2)Mike Brown
3)Mo Williams choker
4)Verajao can't shoot
5)Shaq is old
6)Jamison can't defend
7)Parker sucks
8)Moon doing harlem globetrotter tricks during game
9)West being bipolar
10)Big Z too slow
and so on and so forth.. :confusedshrug:


All of the above and Hence Lebron has checked out Mentally as well..something not right with the Dude right now.

IcanzIIravor
05-12-2010, 12:31 AM
1)elbow
2)Mike Brown
3)Mo Williams choker
4)Verajao can't shoot
5)Shaq is old
6)Jamison can't defend
7)Parker sucks
8)Moon doing harlem globetrotter tricks during game
9)West being bipolar
10)Big Z too slow
and so on and so forth.. :confusedshrug:

:lol

Reads like Letterman's top 10.

gts
05-12-2010, 12:31 AM
"I'm not a huge motivational type guy to my team, I let my courtside dancing do the talking"
fixed

plowking
05-12-2010, 12:33 AM
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7166/98796986.gif

CeoTypeDoe619
05-12-2010, 12:33 AM
The NBA's greatest star just had a mental breakdown. This is a sad day indeed.
:lol :lol :lol I actually lol'd
So true.

Either this is just a scapegoat to go to New York

Or he is having a mental breakdown

lilIlyasova
05-12-2010, 12:34 AM
Looking at the Game 5 game thread it seems like most Cavs fans are uniting around the excuse of "Lebron being distracted by the talk of him moving in the offseason and his head's not in the game but he's going to resign a 3 year contract anyways"

jbot
05-12-2010, 12:35 AM
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7166/98796986.gif
that's awesome!:oldlol:

i bet he'll blame his swellbow.

OneMoreSucka
05-12-2010, 12:35 AM
1)elbow
2)Mike Brown
3)Mo Williams choker
4)Verajao can't shoot
5)Shaq is old
6)Jamison can't defend
7)Parker sucks
8)Moon doing harlem globetrotter tricks during game
9)West being bipolar
10)Big Z too slow
and so on and so forth.. :confusedshrug:
lololol I saw that and was like "did this idiot just do that???"

rfm767
05-12-2010, 12:36 AM
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3342/sterncavs.jpg


lmfao

Batz
05-12-2010, 12:36 AM
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7166/98796986.gif
:oldlol:

lilIlyasova
05-12-2010, 12:37 AM
lololol I saw that and was like "did this idiot just do that???"
damn I missed it what'd moon do

KingsFan416
05-12-2010, 12:37 AM
LeBron sabotage the game so he can leave for New York!

ashlar
05-12-2010, 12:38 AM
Oh, I will get him gooood tomorrow.

10:00am est

:lol

ginobli2311
05-12-2010, 12:39 AM
He's not a winner period.

Kobe, Jordan would be throwing fits

You guys are crazy. You can't just throw out "he's not a winner" because of one performance. Seriously.....all the dude has done since he came into the league is win. He led a joke of a team to the NBA Finals in 07 beating a Pistons team that made the nba finals 2 of the last 3 years and the conference finals the year before. The same Pistons team that Kobe absolutely got owned by in the NBA finals. It never ceases to amaze me how people just sweep Kobe's performance in an entire NBA finals under the rug. He shot 37 percent and lost in 5 as the team's alpha dog. He had been moaning all year about how it was his team....well guess what....he played for worse than Lebrond did tonight for 4 out of 5 games in a SERIES...oh....and he was playing on the more talented team with ****ing SHAQ (who was still uber dominant)

Lebron has been flat out amazing in the playoffs throughout his career so far. He has made the most playoff game winning shots. He has been the best playoff clutch time player. He has never lost in the first round (Kobe has 3 times i believe). And most importantly, Lebron has never had just a flat out awful series since he hit his prime the way kobe has twice now (04 Pistons and 08 Celtics).

How can anyone call Lebron a loser. He played really bad tonight....but he still had 15 points, 7 assists, and 6 boards.

What the moral of the story should be is that no team can win with only one great player. You can't ask one player to do everything. Lebron's greatness is lost on everyone because we are so used to him putting up 30/9/8 every night. You can't ask him to do that....its not humanly possible.

Lebron played poorly....everyone agrees. Ok. Here is the kicker....he didn't dominate the ball...he didn't shoot 30 times, he shot 15 shots i think......he moved the ball and gave everyone else a chance to step up and carry him when he was off. Guess what happened.....the Cavs lost by 30. That should show you how great Lebron actually is. When he doesn't play amazing, the Cavs are awful....and that is why they never had a chance to win a title.

Again....when you best player is struggling, but doesn't jack up a ton of shots and still scores 15 points on 15 shots, grabs 6 boards, and has 7 assists(which is far from a truly terrible performance) and you lose by 30 in a big game...guess what....it means you have bad coaching.....poor defense.....and the lack of any legit 2nd or 3rd option to carry some of the load in a tough game.

I love how Kobe is labeled a winner when he got to play with Shaq and Gasol. Anyone on this board going to argue that if Lebron had played with Dwight Howard over the last 4 years that they wouldn't have won a title every year?

It takes great coaching and multiple great players to win in the playoffs. Take a look at the rosters for the cavs and celtics. Take a good long look. How in the **** can the Cavs beat them 4 out of &? Christ...even with Pierce playing like crap and getting owned by Lebron they are dominating the series. They have more talent, better coaching, and 3 maybe 4 great players.

Everyone here needs to wake the **** up and realize that Lebron has been absolutely amazing in the playoffs so far in his career.....and one bad game against a really good team does not mean he isn't a "winner". Give him another great player and a decent coach....if he loses then....I'll be right there with you guys. But for now...Mike ****ing Brown and Mo Williams/Shaq/Jamison just does not cut it.

Batz
05-12-2010, 12:40 AM
Oh, I will get him gooood tomorrow.

10:00am est
:roll:

KingLeBronJames
05-12-2010, 12:42 AM
I heard the boos and they shouldn't booed LeBron! He's done a lot for the Cavaliers franchise! Everybody at the Quicken Loans Arena should ashamed of themselves. Those are not real Cavs fans.

Kurosawa0
05-12-2010, 12:43 AM
I knew the board would be ugly. LeBron does deserve some of the blame, but remember, he's never had a real second threat. Antwan Jamison is the best player LeBron has ever played with. Would you take Antwan over Rondo, Ray, Pierce or KG? LeBron needs his Pippen. He's just not going to get it in Cleveland. Maybe Chicago...

Kobe, Mike, Magic, Larry, Shaq... all could have bad games in their prime and their teams would still have a shot at beating another good team. LeBron doesn't have that luxury. He has a bad game and his team loses by 30.

cotdt
05-12-2010, 12:46 AM
Shaq did his job today 21 pts from 7-11 and 70% from the FT line. Lebron had a good game from Shaq today, he just couldn't get it done.

inclinerator
05-12-2010, 12:46 AM
pathetic, puke

gts
05-12-2010, 12:46 AM
hollinger on his twitter posted tonights game was one of the biggest playoff wins in Knicks history...lol

bhallic24
05-12-2010, 12:47 AM
Oh, I will get him gooood tomorrow.

10:00am est

roll the fck out copter. lol. skip bayless where have you been? So you still sticking with the suns in their series?

magnax1
05-12-2010, 12:48 AM
I'm usually pretty critical of Lebron, but they still have a chance to win. Its not going to be easy, but they could do it.

LBJFTW
05-12-2010, 12:49 AM
100% unarguable truth. If he leaves Cleveland, all it means is the same problems for another 5 years for another team until he can mature into a leader. Look how long it took Kobe and KG, both straight from HS into the NBA.

OneMoreSucka
05-12-2010, 12:51 AM
Atleast Cavs will have enough cap space one Lebron leaves to offer Joe Johnson the max.
lolololol

cotdt
05-12-2010, 12:52 AM
Lebron strikes me as a person who doesn't feel emotions. His personality is just really strange.

lilIlyasova
05-12-2010, 12:57 AM
Lebron strikes me as a person who doesn't feel emotions. His personality is just really strange.
That is called pathological.

I mean he is marketed as a funny guy who his teammates love to hang around and a great leader and a humble yet talented genius. But on court with his dancing performances and his charismaless interviews and bizarre press conferences after losses and off season wearing MVP and Check My $tats shirts-the pieces aren't adding up.

KenneBell
05-12-2010, 12:57 AM
I'm usually pretty critical of Lebron, but they still have a chance to win. Its not going to be easy, but they could do it.
No doubt, they still have a chance. However, I doubt Boston doesn't win 1 out of 3 available tries.

bluechox
05-12-2010, 01:00 AM
No doubt, they still have a chance. However, I doubt Boston doesn't win 1 out of 3 available tries.
only 2 games left

lakerspng
05-12-2010, 01:00 AM
Maybe the elbow isn't hurting him but it scared him. Just a theory but, maybe it made him realize that if he really did get hurt before the end of the season, he risks what would potentially be the biggest contract of his career. This is his big I'm in my prime superstar contract... If he comes up lame on some fluke play before then he could lose tens of millions. So he dials it back, puts it in cruise control and makes sure that even if they lose as a team, he wins as a player/individual/personal franchise.

Like I said, just a theory, lebron clearly has more than this immediate post season on his mind though

Funnyfuka
05-12-2010, 01:01 AM
Cleveland fans are spoiled now, I hope Lebron leaves so they can realize what they had. Home fans should never boo their team
I agree with this. it looks like lebron wants to teach em a lesson. He appears to be absolutely not disturbed at all, almost confident... seriously it looks like he s going to leave, i see no other explanation to his attitude.

bluechox
05-12-2010, 01:01 AM
this is great news for the knicks, lebron is actually bored in cleavland, no way he would want to spend 5-6 more boring years.

elinss86
05-12-2010, 01:03 AM
he looked like he was mentally checked out tonight. all i know is...imma be glued to my couch thurs night.

Funnyfuka
05-12-2010, 01:04 AM
1)elbow
2)Mike Brown
3)Mo Williams choker
4)Verajao can't shoot
5)Shaq is old
6)Jamison can't defend
7)Parker sucks
8)Moon doing harlem globetrotter tricks during game
9)West being bipolar
10)Big Z too slow
and so on and so forth.. :confusedshrug:

quoted for mother****ing truth.

Funnyfuka
05-12-2010, 01:09 AM
Lebron strikes me as a person who doesn't feel emotions. His personality is just really strange.


the guy alrdy lived it all at such a young age, i mean, he's incredibly rich and well known , adorated as a ****ing god by millions of people worldwide and by the medias.
It would **** anyone's head after a while, so much , so fast. How can you enjoy life when you alrdy lived it all and more than what 99,99999 of the earth population will ever live, before even being 30.

monkeypox
05-12-2010, 01:09 AM
Lol, this reminds me of those times that Kobe supposedly gave up and how a champion never would do that. Or people laughing at Kobe and Fisher for crying at a loss. Or how a champion would never let his team get blown out like that. Sometimes your team loses and there really ain't shit you can do about it as a player. Some people deal with adversity in different ways, some show passion, others are aloof. I hope people remember all this for the next new god of the NBA emerges and maybe accept that these guys are human beings and even the best players have their off games.

ProfessorMurder
05-12-2010, 01:10 AM
hollinger on his twitter posted tonights game was one of the biggest playoff wins in Knicks history...lol
:roll:

Kiddlovesnets
05-12-2010, 01:26 AM
Maybe he will leave the Cavs this time.

Kingwillball
05-12-2010, 01:51 AM
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/05/cleveland_cavaliers_vs_boston_4.html

Good Read on what is Happening with Cavs..

KAJ=GOAT
05-12-2010, 01:57 AM
2007- Swept in the Finals
2008- Out in 2nd round
2009- Lost in ECF with 66-16 record and league best record
2010- League best record again and facing elimination in round 2


I'm not knocking LeBron at all as a player. But every year, there's always an excuse and LeBron gets a pass. There's no scorers, there's no good defensive center, no intimidation in the paint, no one else to score. This year, they have Shaq in the paint(regardless of age, he's still an intimidating force), Antawn Jamison, Mo Williams, Anthony Parker, Jamario Moon, Z, Delonte West, and Sideshow Bob.


Anything short of a title and especially out before the Finals, what will the excuse be?


Cavs fans, a time study

last summer - Shaq signed, "oh yea, Lebron finally has some help, championship"

Jamison trade - "we got more help, then we'll get Z back"



now
:rant
"Lebron doesn't have any support"

lilIlyasova
05-12-2010, 02:01 AM
Yep. Before the playoffs started Lebron had the best supporting cast in the NBA and the cavs were the deepest team in the league.

Now Lebron has no supporting cast.

The excuses are endless

KAJ=GOAT
05-12-2010, 02:04 AM
the guy alrdy lived it all at such a young age, i mean, he's incredibly rich and well known , adorated as a ****ing god by millions of people worldwide and by the medias.
It would **** anyone's head after a while, so much , so fast. How can you enjoy life when you alrdy lived it all and more than what 99,99999 of the earth population will ever live, before even being 30.


So,

why isn't every well known celebrity,

like Lebron?

Funnyfuka
05-12-2010, 02:09 AM
kobe has psychological support from phil jackson who's very very talented in human relations, he's a down to earth mentor who knows what matters in life outside the court and put aside all the millions of dollars.

Mike brown is affraid of lebron, not the opposite. Lebron doesnt respect him, and brown has nothing to offer, he's not a charismatic, experienced mentor.

Rich sucessful males need a father figure to stay focused and down to earth. Lebron is human after all.

godofgods
05-12-2010, 02:32 AM
People actually watch BET? :oldlol:

Racist people do.

ginobli2311
05-12-2010, 02:45 AM
Cavs fans, a time study

last summer - Shaq signed, "oh yea, Lebron finally has some help, championship"

Jamison trade - "we got more help, then we'll get Z back"



now
:rant
"Lebron doesn't have any support"


You just answered you own question. Lebron leading his team to the Finals in 2007 was more impressive than some players leading their teams to titles. Lebron just getting to the Spurs in 07 should be a positive point for Lebron's playoff resume...not a negative one. 2008....Lebron got out of the first round again....he's never lost in the first round.....Kobe has lost 3 times I think. How is it a negative when you play with a joke of a team and joke of a coach when you get out of the first round and nearly beat the Celtics in Boston in game 7. Side note.....Kobe's lakers (ten times more talented and better coached than the Cavs lost in 6 to that same Celtics team and lost the elimination game by over 30). Lebron scored 45 in game 7 in Boston and almost upset the future champs with another outclassed team. 2009 Lebron carries a squad of misfits to 66 wins and the conference finals. Lebron could not play better in the Orlando series and his teammates come up so small you can't even see them on the court in every game. 2010 Lebron leads his team to the best record again and into the 2nd round of the playoffs in which he is averaging 31 points, 9 rebounds, and 7 assists. He's absolutely owned Paul Pierce the entire series forcing a great player to shoot less than 35 percent from the field and score less than 14 points a game. Once again his teammates and coach have come up extremely small in important situations.

Yes. Lebron played like crap in game 5. But one player does not cause you lose by 32 at home. He scored 15 points on 14 shots and grabbed 6 boards and had 7 assists....far from a truly awful performance. This game just proves Lebron's greatness. If he's not great....the Cavs are awful......look at the facts. Lebron plays bad and the Cavs lose by 32. Where was Shaq? Where was Mo? Where was Jamison? They didn't show up...just like they haven't shown up all series. Mo is getting his shit kicked up and down the floor by Rondo and Jamison is getting his ass handed to him every night on both ends by KG. Shaq is inconsistent and isn't half the defender Perkins is. Mike Brown seems to have lost his mind.....and the Cavs bench is just plain pathetic so far.

You can pick apart any player if your really want to. The fact is that all this hating on Lebron is not warranted until he gets to play for a decent coach and a legit 2nd banana. You can't compare what Kobe or Howard or what the Celtics have to what Lebron has. Its a sign of his true greatness that he has been so successful and dominant with the shit he has around him. Thats the truth......

Kingwillball
05-12-2010, 02:52 AM
You just answered you own question. Lebron leading his team to the Finals in 2007 was more impressive than some players leading their teams to titles. Lebron just getting to the Spurs in 07 should be a positive point for Lebron's playoff resume...not a negative one. 2008....Lebron got out of the first round again....he's never lost in the first round.....Kobe has lost 3 times I think. How is it a negative when you play with a joke of a team and joke of a coach when you get out of the first round and nearly beat the Celtics in Boston in game 7. Side note.....Kobe's lakers (ten times more talented and better coached than the Cavs lost in 6 to that same Celtics team and lost the elimination game by over 30). Lebron scored 45 in game 7 in Boston and almost upset the future champs with another outclassed team. 2009 Lebron carries a squad of misfits to 66 wins and the conference finals. Lebron could not play better in the Orlando series and his teammates come up so small you can't even see them on the court in every game. 2010 Lebron leads his team to the best record again and into the 2nd round of the playoffs in which he is averaging 31 points, 9 rebounds, and 7 assists. He's absolutely owned Paul Pierce the entire series forcing a great player to shoot less than 35 percent from the field and score less than 14 points a game. Once again his teammates and coach have come up extremely small in important situations.

Yes. Lebron played like crap in game 5. But one player does not cause you lose by 32 at home. He scored 15 points on 14 shots and grabbed 6 boards and had 7 assists....far from a truly awful performance. This game just proves Lebron's greatness. If he's not great....the Cavs are awful......look at the facts. Lebron plays bad and the Cavs lose by 32. Where was Shaq? Where was Mo? Where was Jamison? They didn't show up...just like they haven't shown up all series. Mo is getting his shit kicked up and down the floor by Rondo and Jamison is getting his ass handed to him every night on both ends by KG. Shaq is inconsistent and isn't half the defender Perkins is. Mike Brown seems to have lost his mind.....and the Cavs bench is just plain pathetic so far.

You can pick apart any player if your really want to. The fact is that all this hating on Lebron is not warranted until he gets to play for a decent coach and a legit 2nd banana. You can't compare what Kobe or Howard or what the Celtics have to what Lebron has. Its a sign of his true greatness that he has been so successful and dominant with the shit he has around him. Thats the truth......


Good Post but I have to Say Shaq had a Good Gm for Him. Secondly, Lebron's assists and Rebounds were OK but he had one of the Worst Games I have ever seen him play. Besides the poor shooting , only taking 3 shots in first Half to only having 2 assists and 1 Rebound in the Second half while Still not being aggressive offensively. He stood around look disinterested and the rest of the team followed his Lead..They became Lost Knowing there Leader played and Acted Defeated.

ginobli2311
05-12-2010, 03:05 AM
Good Post but I have to Say Shaq had a Good Gm for Him. Secondly, Lebron's assists and Rebounds were OK but he had one of the Worst Games I have ever seen him play. Besides the poor shooting , only taking 3 shots in first Half to only having 2 assists and 1 Rebound in the Second half while Still not being aggressive offensively. He stood around look disinterested and the rest of the team followed his Lead..They became Lost Knowing there Leader played and Acted Defeated.

I completely agree. But clearly they had to know that Lebron was not himself before we did watching the game. Mike Brown has to step in as the coach and right the ship in a must win game if your star is either off or tired or trying to convince everyone and himself that his elbow is not a factor. It is not an excuse by any means for Lebron....he played a really pathetic game that I don't understand. However, Lebron's track record in the playoffs has really been perfect so far with his individual performances and his teams that consistently over achieve. What lost the Cavs game 5 and potentially the series is that Rondo and KG have flat out owned Mo and Jamison on both ends of the floor. Factor that in with the Cavs bench not showing up compared to Tony Allen and Big baby playing really well....and even Wallace played big in game 2 and it becomes evident that the Cavs are just not a good enough TEAM to win.

Lebron deserves some blame. But it's hard to knock a guy that puts up his numbers and his effort night in night out. Obviously the same can't be said for tonight....but I'm willing to give him a pass for one crappy game. If the Cavs have any chance to come back it's going to take Mo and Jamison really stepping up on both ends......I just don't see how that happens.

Guys....please remember:

Robinson needed Duncan. Duncan needed Robinson/Manu/Parker. Shaq needed Kobe. Kobe needed Gasol. Wade needed Shaq. KG needed Pierce/Allen. Come on now.....don't ask/expect Lebron to do something that has never been done. Don't even get me started on what a huge disadvantage the Cavs are at historically with Mike Brown coaching compared to the great championship coaches. What name does not belong:

Phil Jackson
Riley
Poppovich
Larry Brown
Mike Brown???????

Give Lebron at least the rest of the series first.....it was only game 5......not an elimination game or game 7. Kobe has rebounded from awful elimination game peformances and awful series performances in the finals on the biggest stage with great talent and great coaching. It's a little early to call Lebron a "regular season player" when the best player he's played with in his prime is Mo Williams.

All this does is prove the theory that you have to have at least a good coach and at least 2 great players to win a title. Thats to all you Dirk haters out there. Even Lebron can't get it done by himself....its really impossible in today's game.

cotdt
05-12-2010, 03:06 AM
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/05/cleveland_cavaliers_vs_boston_4.html

Good Read on what is Happening with Cavs..

Seems like Mike Brown is the Celtics best player.

YAWN
05-12-2010, 03:18 AM
why the hell are people acting like jamison is washed up and terrible... i had the dude on my fantasy team before the trade and he would drop 25/10 consistently... He even had a bunch of 30+/14 explosions.

PejaNowitzki
05-12-2010, 03:36 AM
yea you think he would be enraged or on the brink of tears or something.. instead he looked more interested in showing off his jewelry :oldlol:

lebron surprising us from all angles tonight



I might be alone in this, but I feel like he doesn't give a **** anymore. He doesn't like the team, doesn't like the organization and is looking ahead to a massive payday and change of scenery from either NJ or the Knicks.

kraze94
05-12-2010, 03:44 AM
The only question left is whether LeBron will shake the opposing players hands when the Cavs get eliminated.

PP34Deuce
05-12-2010, 03:49 AM
Not just Lebron,but i saw a Cavs team that honestly quit in the 3rd quarter like we did when they whooped our ass.

Kenny smith said Cleveland has the demeanor like they arent going to win and I believe him. I think this loss we broke their spirit.

Pivotal moment was when we were up 18 ppoints 5 mins left in the 3rd quarter...They decide to blatantly foul Perkins like we do with Shaq. THey laughed too then they purposely tried to get arguements going with our starters.

lilIlyasova
05-12-2010, 03:53 AM
why the hell are people acting like jamison is washed up and terrible... i had the dude on my fantasy team before the trade and he would drop 25/10 consistently... He even had a bunch of 30+/14 explosions.
I know, Jamison is an allstar caliber player but Cavs fans are acting like he's a Wally Szerbiak level scrub. They should start liking Jamison, he's going to become their franchise player for the next few years, how much longer is his contract? :lol

Twiens
05-12-2010, 03:57 AM
Playing with Lebron is a career killer unless your a role-player. Jamison is going from 20/10 to scrub status right before our eyes...

ginobli2311
05-12-2010, 04:02 AM
Playing with Lebron is a career killer unless your a role-player. Jamison is going from 20/10 to scrub status right before our eyes...

Yea. Mo Williams making the all-star team and becoming a relevant player has killed his career. Yea....it's Lebron's fault that Jamison is getting his ass handed to him by KG and its' Lebron's fault that Mo williams is getting torched by both ray allen and rondo....or really whoever he guards. Its all Lebron. Funny how Lebron didn't dominate the ball or take a ton of shots tonight.....what happened? His "great teammates" played like crap and they lost by 32. But yea.....Lebron ruins their games.....its not the fact that mo and jamison just arent good enough to be vital players on championship teams.....its always Lebron's fault.

lilIlyasova
05-12-2010, 04:03 AM
Yea. Mo Williams making the all-star team and becoming a relevant player has killed his career. Yea....it's Lebron's fault that Jamison is getting his ass handed to him by KG and its' Lebron's fault that Mo williams is getting torched by both ray allen and rondo....or really whoever he guards. Its all Lebron. Funny how Lebron didn't dominate the ball or take a ton of shots tonight.....what happened? His "great teammates" played like crap and they lost by 32. But yea.....Lebron ruins their games.....its not the fact that mo and jamison just arent good enough to be vital players on championship teams.....its always Lebron's fault.
Why not have Lebron guard KG and Jamison try guarding Pierce?

YAWN
05-12-2010, 04:04 AM
Yea. Mo Williams making the all-star team and becoming a relevant player has killed his career. Yea....it's Lebron's fault that Jamison is getting his ass handed to him by KG and its' Lebron's fault that Mo williams is getting torched by both ray allen and rondo....or really whoever he guards. Its all Lebron. Funny how Lebron didn't dominate the ball or take a ton of shots tonight.....what happened? His "great teammates" played like crap and they lost by 32. But yea.....Lebron ruins their games.....its not the fact that mo and jamison just arent good enough to be vital players on championship teams.....its always Lebron's fault.

uhmm... lebron didn't dominate the ball because he was sucking. didn't he miss his first 10 shots? Thats why they fell behind. Then they just gave up towards the end of the game and the celtics added to gap in what was already a blowout.

Freshprince619
05-12-2010, 04:05 AM
Playing with Lebron is a career killer unless your a role-player. Jamison is going from 20/10 to scrub status right before our eyes...
Yeah so true. He is WAY to ball dominant. I don't see ANY Big Time Free Agent playing with him unless Lebron is cool with his all his stats falling significantly

PP34Deuce
05-12-2010, 04:11 AM
Sometimes I think because he is so amazingly talented(a true prodigy) He has multiple personalities on the court. Kobe,and Tracy used to have it.

SOmetimes hes in conflict with himself because he can do so many things.People forget hes only 25 and has done a lot.

What makes Lebron so scary for me is once he gets proper coaching he will be very very very scary.

Cleveland does not need an Avery Johnson because hes a better version of a ass kicking Mike Brown. Larry Brown would be perfect for this team because he needs someone to kick him to motivate him.

ginobli2311
05-12-2010, 04:16 AM
uhmm... lebron didn't dominate the ball because he was sucking. didn't he miss his first 10 shots? Thats why they fell behind. Then they just gave up towards the end of the game and the celtics added to gap in what was already a blowout.


ummmm. thats the point man. if your best player misses his first ten shots you should be struggling but not be run out of the gym. Lebron has no room for error....a single bad game individually and the Cavs will crumble. Its just insane to put this loss solely on Lebron. Even if he played well it wouldnt change the fact that Rondo and KG are just owning their matchups.

Look at the Lakers v. Thunder series. Kobe shot 40% for the series, looked old and hurt, didn't play well down the stretch of close games......and the Lakers still won in 6. Why? Because other players stepped up....Gasol played great....Artest shut down Durant. You need help.....I understand that Lebron played like ass tonight......but its a team game and nobody can do it all by himself.

Its like you people forget how hard it is to win championships. Christ...Kobe is easily one of the top 15 players of all time. He's been on the most talented team in the league at least 8 of his years in the league during his "prime" and he has only 4 titles and he got to play for phil jackson and has had super talented veteran laden teams with great players like shaq and gasol. Its not easy to win.....in fact, in the nba, its ****ing next to impossible.

twoonetwo1
05-12-2010, 04:26 AM
ummmm. thats the point man. if your best player misses his first ten shots you should be struggling but not be run out of the gym. Lebron has no room for error....a single bad game individually and the Cavs will crumble. Its just insane to put this loss solely on Lebron. Even if he played well it wouldnt change the fact that Rondo and KG are just owning their matchups.

Look at the Lakers v. Thunder series. Kobe shot 40% for the series, looked old and hurt, didn't play well down the stretch of close games......and the Lakers still won in 6. Why? Because other players stepped up....Gasol played great....Artest shut down Durant. You need help.....I understand that Lebron played like ass tonight......but its a team game and nobody can do it all by himself.

Its like you people forget how hard it is to win championships. Christ...Kobe is easily one of the top 15 players of all time. He's been on the most talented team in the league at least 8 of his years in the league during his "prime" and he has only 4 titles and he got to play for phil jackson and has had super talented veteran laden teams with great players like shaq and gasol. Its not easy to win.....in fact, in the nba, its ****ing next to impossible.

and it's funny you bring up Kobe in EVERY single one of your posts

ginobli2311
05-12-2010, 04:32 AM
and it's funny you bring up Kobe in EVERY single one of your posts

because kobe is generally regarded on these boards as a top 15 player of all time. which i agree with. and is a player in the same era as lebron. i could compare lebron with wade as well. what has wade done since Shaq left? nothing. what did he do with better coaching and another great player? 1 title in 06 and he could have easily won another in 05 if he didn't get hurt. is wade just a much worse player now? we can talk about KG...did he just magically get better when he got to Boston? or was it that he finally was playing on a championship caliber team?

you tell me.

cotdt
05-12-2010, 04:35 AM
Lebron definitely has the talent around him this season. Their system is all Lebron-ball so it is just way too dependant on Lebron's performance. The Lakers have a distributed system based on multiple playmakers so it is not as dependant on Kobe to succeed. The Cavs as a team has very poor ball movement.

Hotlantadude81
05-12-2010, 04:42 AM
the Hawks and Cavs are cut from the same cloth. The only real big difference between these two teams is that one has Lebron and one has JJ. That has allowed Cleveland to get further in the playoffs, but they don't look so great in the post season. They're nearly as poorly coached as the Hawks and they've changed abit over the last few years and it appears team chemistry is not all that food.

BlueandGold
05-12-2010, 04:46 AM
You guys are crazy. You can't just throw out "he's not a winner" because of one performance. Seriously.....all the dude has done since he came into the league is win. He led a joke of a team to the NBA Finals in 07 beating a Pistons team that made the nba finals 2 of the last 3 years and the conference finals the year before. The same Pistons team that Kobe absolutely got owned by in the NBA finals. It never ceases to amaze me how people just sweep Kobe's performance in an entire NBA finals under the rug. He shot 37 percent and lost in 5 as the team's alpha dog. He had been moaning all year about how it was his team....well guess what....he played for worse than Lebrond did tonight for 4 out of 5 games in a SERIES...oh....and he was playing on the more talented team with ****ing SHAQ (who was still uber dominant)


Did you really have to bring up Kobe in another Lebron thread =/. Way to be original *sarcasm.

john_d
05-12-2010, 04:46 AM
Lebron definitely has the talent around him this season. Their system is all Lebron-ball so it is just way too dependant on Lebron's performance. The Lakers have a distributed system based on multiple playmakers so it is not as dependant on Kobe to succeed. The Cavs as a team has very poor ball movement.
this.

+ everytime u play lebron/iverson type ball... a team like the celtics/magic will dominate you

Jasi
05-12-2010, 04:55 AM
I have watched almost Every Game the Guy has ever played something is Not right with the Dude..He has Mentally checked out it seems.

Something is not right with you either :rolleyes:

AK47DR91
05-12-2010, 04:59 AM
Lebron definitely has the talent around him this season. Their system is all Lebron-ball so it is just way too dependant on Lebron's performance. The Lakers have a distributed system based on multiple playmakers so it is not as dependant on Kobe to succeed. The Cavs as a team has very poor ball movement.

This is why I think LeBron's godly stats are nothing more than padded stats.
Clearly, his team cannot play without him having an off night.

Freshprince619
05-12-2010, 05:03 AM
Lebron definitely has the talent around him this season. Their system is all Lebron-ball so it is just way too dependant on Lebron's performance. The Lakers have a distributed system based on multiple playmakers so it is not as dependant on Kobe to succeed. The Cavs as a team has very poor ball movement.
Exactly. What i had stated earlier. Its as if Cavs are to scared to make that extra pass to steal Lebron assist. But as long as Lebron is this Ball DOminant i dont see him EVER winning ANYTHING in his career. And i don't see D-wade, Bosh, etc putting up with his ass holding the ball all day to collect assist

sbw19
05-12-2010, 05:17 AM
Stop strutting, stop preening, stop stomping away as an ungracious winner, a sore loser, and win something, LeBron. Win something now.
Link (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AgYdg9XsAIRoRNoDaTGKU4jTjdIF?slug=aw-lebroncavs051210)

Wow. :oldlol:

w00terz
05-12-2010, 05:19 AM
LeBitch James is a chump. How the hell can you bust your ass for 6+ months to get to the playoffs, then just disappear and act so apathetic/disinterested? Let him walk

oh the horror
05-12-2010, 05:28 AM
Link (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AgYdg9XsAIRoRNoDaTGKU4jTjdIF?slug=aw-lebroncavs051210)

Wow. :oldlol:


Well, while it may be harsh, it IS gut check time for Mr. James. The world is watching....No more dancing on the court, and puffing that chest out. Can he lead his team guns blazing, to 2 victories and take out the Celtics? We shall see.

Meticode
05-12-2010, 05:31 AM
Cleveland fans are spoiled now, I hope Lebron leaves so they can realize what they had. Home fans should never boo their team

Spoiled on what? Cleveland hasn't won anything since he came. The city wants a god damn championship, and the way this team has played the last two games they every right to boo the **** out of the team with the way they're playing and the way Brown is coaching.

oh the horror
05-12-2010, 05:34 AM
Why do people act like we're not supposed to boo a sh*tty performance? We dont owe these athletes ANYTHING.


They're paid MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of dollars to give it their 100 percent all....ALL the time.


Cleveland fans should be booing them....they looked like garbage out there today, and Lebron laid a HUGE egg.

Freshprince619
05-12-2010, 05:34 AM
Spoiled on what? Cleveland hasn't won anything since he came. The city wants a god damn championship, and the way this team has played the last two games they every right to boo the **** out of the team with the way they're playing and the way Brown is coaching.
This is how you can tell the difference between a Cleveland Fan and a Lebron Stan.
:applause: :applause:

kobesabi
05-12-2010, 05:37 AM
What strikes me is that Lebron looks bored and says everything lackadaisically. I wonder what is really going thru his mind.
If only I can just walk away and hide in a corner like last year. Damn Stern!

sbw19
05-12-2010, 06:39 AM
Well, while it may be harsh, it IS gut check time for Mr. James. The world is watching....No more dancing on the court, and puffing that chest out. Can he lead his team guns blazing, to 2 victories and take out the Celtics? We shall see.

Yeah truth be told right now he has no room for error: he needs to put up monster games AND win to make up for causing the worst home loss in Cavs history at such a pivotal juncture in the series. I must say it really felt as if he wilted and couldn't handle the pressure of knowing his team is being outcoached and outclassed.

Derka
05-12-2010, 06:52 AM
"And as job security goes, the CEO of British Petroleum has more going for him than Mike Brown right now."

Laughed my white ass off at that one. Great line. :lol

williams012
05-12-2010, 08:07 AM
Yeah truth be told right now he has no room for error: he needs to put up monster games AND win to make up for causing the worst home loss in Cavs history at such a pivotal juncture in the series. I must say it really felt as if he wilted and couldn't handle the pressure of knowing his team is being outcoached and outclassed.

read this and blame Mike Brown just as much. This dudes no coach!!!

steelpulse
05-12-2010, 08:12 AM
NBA = WWE
STERN = MCMAHON


ITS ALL PART OF THE PLAN :banana:

Lebron lost on purpose, just like Kobe when he shot only 10 attempts vs Thunder.

SPORTS BETTING = NBA'S EXTRA INCOME

Amil23
05-12-2010, 09:43 AM
Lebron tanked the game away and it was obvious.Even when he shot he shot like he was trying to miss.I lost all respect for him tonight

TheSlimViper
05-12-2010, 09:45 AM
Watching him play last night I was convinced that he'd touched the basketball from Space Jam and lost all his talent.

:confusedshrug:

zizozain
05-12-2010, 10:05 AM
They were booing the whole ****ing team, not Lebron.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Amil23
05-12-2010, 10:10 AM
why the hell are people acting like jamison is washed up and terrible... i had the dude on my fantasy team before the trade and he would drop 25/10 consistently... He even had a bunch of 30+/14 explosions.
I agree Jamison is still a very good player and its hilarious when people think players like Rashard is better than him.

silentmove1
05-12-2010, 10:14 AM
You just answered you own question. Lebron leading his team to the Finals in 2007 was more impressive than some players leading their teams to titles. Lebron just getting to the Spurs in 07 should be a positive point for Lebron's playoff resume...not a negative one. 2008....Lebron got out of the first round again....he's never lost in the first round.....Kobe has lost 3 times I think. How is it a negative when you play with a joke of a team and joke of a coach when you get out of the first round and nearly beat the Celtics in Boston in game 7. Side note.....Kobe's lakers (ten times more talented and better coached than the Cavs lost in 6 to that same Celtics team and lost the elimination game by over 30). Lebron scored 45 in game 7 in Boston and almost upset the future champs with another outclassed team. 2009 Lebron carries a squad of misfits to 66 wins and the conference finals. Lebron could not play better in the Orlando series and his teammates come up so small you can't even see them on the court in every game. 2010 Lebron leads his team to the best record again and into the 2nd round of the playoffs in which he is averaging 31 points, 9 rebounds, and 7 assists. He's absolutely owned Paul Pierce the entire series forcing a great player to shoot less than 35 percent from the field and score less than 14 points a game. Once again his teammates and coach have come up extremely small in important situations.

Yes. Lebron played like crap in game 5. But one player does not cause you lose by 32 at home. He scored 15 points on 14 shots and grabbed 6 boards and had 7 assists....far from a truly awful performance. This game just proves Lebron's greatness. If he's not great....the Cavs are awful......look at the facts. Lebron plays bad and the Cavs lose by 32. Where was Shaq? Where was Mo? Where was Jamison? They didn't show up...just like they haven't shown up all series. Mo is getting his shit kicked up and down the floor by Rondo and Jamison is getting his ass handed to him every night on both ends by KG. Shaq is inconsistent and isn't half the defender Perkins is. Mike Brown seems to have lost his mind.....and the Cavs bench is just plain pathetic so far.

You can pick apart any player if your really want to. The fact is that all this hating on Lebron is not warranted until he gets to play for a decent coach and a legit 2nd banana. You can't compare what Kobe or Howard or what the Celtics have to what Lebron has. Its a sign of his true greatness that he has been so successful and dominant with the shit he has around him. Thats the truth......


The problem with your boy is that he has the biggest ego in the world, it is breaking team chemistry and eating out at him is the fact that Rondo has stolen his stage. James is no team leader when his team goes from the hunter to the hunted, and no matter who coaches him, no person with such an ego can be coached or considered a team leader, most specially during playoff basketball.

Funnyfuka
05-12-2010, 10:27 AM
LeBitch James is a chump. How the hell can you bust your ass for 6+ months to get to the playoffs, then just disappear and act so apathetic/disinterested? Let him walk

it's called immaturity. And when you re immature you need a father figure to get you back to reality. A good coach should be the answer. Ideally phil jackson who's very talented at this, but not going to happen.

Dresta
05-12-2010, 10:31 AM
I remember Cavs fans telling me he was gonna tear up the Celtics the same way Wade did, so what happened?

Shax
05-12-2010, 10:31 AM
Lebron was most definitely being booed, and he deserved it.


I remember Cavs fans telling me he was gonna tear up the Celtics the same way Wade did, so what happened?

I guess you missed game 3?

pegasus
05-12-2010, 10:31 AM
I've said it all year long... Lebron is the most dominant player in the world, but he's dominating his own team. You can't expect those role players to step up in the biggest game of the season after having been forced to watch Lebron do it all for them all season long. I don't care how many assists he gets, he does it in a dominating way, which cripples his own teammates.

bada bing
05-12-2010, 10:33 AM
it's called immaturity. And when you re immature you need a father figure to get you back to reality. A good coach should be the answer. Ideally phil jackson who's very talented at this, but not going to happen.

this. PJ took an arrogant selfish moron like kobe and made him into this figure that people respect.

Dresta
05-12-2010, 10:35 AM
Lebron was most definitely being booed, and he deserved it.



I guess you missed game 3?
Since when is game 3 a series?

Shax
05-12-2010, 10:37 AM
Since when is game 3 a series?

Since when is the series over?

I can do that too.

Jailblazers7
05-12-2010, 10:41 AM
Did he seriously get booed? I guess Cleveland fans want him to leave after this season.

Lakerlove420
05-12-2010, 10:45 AM
LeBitch James is a chump. How the hell can you bust your ass for 6+ months to get to the playoffs, then just disappear and act so apathetic/disinterested? Let him walk

I agree with this

RaininThrees
05-12-2010, 10:46 AM
The Woj kills it:

[QUOTE]CLEVELAND

Brickz187
05-12-2010, 10:50 AM
All the blame is not on Lebron. Yes he is the leader and he played like crap. Ok we got that out the way and we agree. What about Mike Brown? There was plenty of times where he needed to call a timeout or for him to yell at them to speed the game up, but he didn't. Mike Brown let the game get out of hand and did a poor job as a coach. Shaq, incredible game he showed up big time, but he should not be the leading scorer. Jamison is a all star caliber player, there is no doubt about it. He should be putting up his numbers as well, but he isn't. Mo is being outplayed, West should be PG at this point of the series. Fact is, Lebron had a crap game, he played like he didn't care and his team showed to the world what we already knew, without Lebron the Cavs are a crap team. Is it Lebron's fault they lost? I would say he has some of the blame, but from what I seen he was doing his best to give the ball to his teammates to score and they failed to score. Everything added up together and you can see why they lost by so much. The team just seems confused and not good right now and the coaching isn't looking much better.

RaininThrees
05-12-2010, 10:56 AM
All the blame is not on Lebron. Yes he is the leader and he played like crap. Ok we got that out the way and we agree. What about Mike Brown? There was plenty of times where he needed to call a timeout or for him to yell at them to speed the game up, but he didn't. Mike Brown let the game get out of hand and did a poor job as a coach. Shaq, incredible game he showed up big time, but he should not be the leading scorer. Jamison is a all star caliber player, there is no doubt about it. He should be putting up his numbers as well, but he isn't. Mo is being outplayed, West should be PG at this point of the series. Fact is, Lebron had a crap game, he played like he didn't care and his team showed to the world what we already knew, without Lebron the Cavs are a crap team. Is it Lebron's fault they lost? I would say he has some of the blame, but from what I seen he was doing his best to give the ball to his teammates to score and they failed to score. Everything added up together and you can see why they lost by so much. The team just seems confused and not good right now and the coaching isn't looking much better.

But what was up with Lebron last night? He simply didn't play like Leebron, and played like he didn't care. Look at his shot chart:

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=300511005

A total of 2 FGA at the rim. A total of 3 from within the paint.

Lakerlove420
05-12-2010, 10:58 AM
RaininThrees I really enjoyed that 'Woj?' article
thanks dude

Brickz187
05-12-2010, 11:08 AM
But what was up with Lebron last night? He simply didn't play like Leebron, and played like he didn't care. Look at his shot chart:

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=300511005

A total of 2 FGA at the rim. A total of 3 from within the paint.

I can't answer what is wrong with him. He looked really bad out there. I have no excuse like his elbow, he's sick or anything. All I can say is he really looked like he didn't want to play hard. I'm sure there are more things going on that we have no idea about. Let's just hope he wakes his ass up for the next 2 games because without him, Cavs have no chance at all.

Skyscraper
05-12-2010, 11:14 AM
I can't answer what is wrong with him. He looked really bad out there. I have no excuse like his elbow, he's sick or anything. All I can say is he really looked like he didn't want to play hard. I'm sure there are more things going on that we have no idea about. Let's just hope he wakes his ass up for the next 2 games because without him, Cavs have no chance at all.


Lebron wants out, simple as that.

He can play better than this.

He is using the elbow as an excuse to leave town.

For idiots who do not understand why this is the case:

Lebron must lose and then he can blame the old supporting cast with no legitimate All Star sidekick player (Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison are frauds who got in on lean years; or as an injury replacement in Williams' case on a weak 15PPG) and no flexibility for improvement.

But he cannot simply tank it, because people will call him out.

So he exaggerates an elbow injury and has the media overplay it (notice how he denies anything wrong, trying to play a Kobe)

Once he loses, he is free to skip town with the only complaint that the Cavs didnt' do enough to help him

A brilliant plan I might add.



He should not go to the Knicks because DAntoni's style has not shown it can win anything... even with Nash.

They never even practice defense...

Dresta
05-12-2010, 11:24 AM
Since when is the series over?

I can do that too.
You make no sense, Bron has had 2 good games out of 5, Wade had 5 out of 5, there's no way he can have as good a series as Wade did.

macpierce
05-12-2010, 11:27 AM
Lebron wants out, simple as that.

He can play better than this.

He is using the elbow as an excuse to leave town.

For idiots who do not understand why this is the case:

Lebron must lose and then he can blame the old supporting cast with no legitimate All Star sidekick player (Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison are frauds who got in on lean years; or as an injury replacement in Williams' case on a weak 15PPG) and no flexibility for improvement.

But he cannot simply tank it, because people will call him out.

So he exaggerates an elbow injury and has the media overplay it (notice how he denies anything wrong, trying to play a Kobe)

Once he loses, he is free to skip town with the only complaint that the Cavs didnt' do enough to help him

A brilliant plan I might add.



He should not go to the Knicks because DAntoni's style has not shown it can win anything... even with Nash.

They never even practice defense...
if lebron is a no show in game 6 then i might actually believe you

Mor'Fiyah
05-12-2010, 11:28 AM
Has anyone thought that Lebron maybe used up too much energy chasing Rondo in the first half. Lebron might just not be used to chasing around screens and staying in front of small guards for long stretches. There were numerous times when he leaned over on his knees (anyone who has played sports knows thats the tell tale sign of being out of breath and tired). Maybe Lebron is not in good enough shape?

Amil23
05-12-2010, 11:29 AM
Has anyone thought that Lebron maybe used up too much energy chasing Rondo in the first half. Lebron might just not be used to chasing around screens and staying in front of small guards for long stretches. There were numerous times when he leaned over on his knees (anyone who has played sports knows thats the tell tale sign of being out of breath and tired). Maybe Lebron is not in good enough shape?

he didnt even guard Rondo .

Lakerlove420
05-12-2010, 11:38 AM
Lebron wants out, simple as that.

He can play better than this.

He is using the elbow as an excuse to leave town.

For idiots who do not understand why this is the case:

Lebron must lose and then he can blame the old supporting cast with no legitimate All Star sidekick player (Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison are frauds who got in on lean years; or as an injury replacement in Williams' case on a weak 15PPG) and no flexibility for improvement.

But he cannot simply tank it, because people will call him out.

So he exaggerates an elbow injury and has the media overplay it (notice how he denies anything wrong, trying to play a Kobe)

Once he loses, he is free to skip town with the only complaint that the Cavs didnt' do enough to help him

A brilliant plan I might add.



He should not go to the Knicks because DAntoni's style has not shown it can win anything... even with Nash.

They never even practice defense...

stupid ass plan. what an idiot. why would he blow his only chance to win a championship. It is here and now. He only needs 10 wins. I know you said that he shouldn't go to NY. Of course! there will be no championship there for years to come. If he could win and they do/did have a shot why would he not want to win and stay and defend next year!? Naw I think I'll tank the championship little by little so I can lose and go to a losing team.

Brilliant plan. HA! Laughable man! That's bush-league pysch-out stuff-
ridiculous! he gets what he gets. what a professional poser choke artist
he bugs so bad and all you bronboys are just swingin from his nuts.

dutchguy
05-12-2010, 11:45 AM
Wow,
nice to read all these articles of professional journalists, who knew all along exactly what makes lebron tick. Why didn't they write this up until 2 days ago, since it's all so obvious?
yeah Lebron is arrogant, all good athletes are, but how has he turned into a monster now?

Sure there will be lots of posters saying "I always said this" but those are just irrational hating individuals, since i can safely say none of them 'knows' lebron as a person and you can't make a psychological profile from a television broadcast. But how can a journalist spawn this stuff?

thejumpa
05-12-2010, 11:56 AM
Wow,
nice to read all these articles of professional journalists, who knew all along exactly what makes lebron tick. Why didn't they write this up until 2 days ago, since it's all so obvious?
yeah Lebron is arrogant, all good athletes are, but how has he turned into a monster now?

Sure there will be lots of posters saying "I always said this" but those are just irrational hating individuals, since i can safely say none of them 'knows' lebron as a person and you can't make a psychological profile from a television broadcast. But how can a journalist spawn this stuff?

It's easy to kick a man while he's down....or not looking himself. You can say whatever you want and people will go along with it because it seems like the right answer. The only answer. LeBron has a couple bad games and doesn't show much emotion, and all of a sudden he's the superstar who has everything backwards. I bet the journalists weren't saying this after he dominated the regular season and lead his team to 61 wins. Since he has failed to live up to expectations in the playoffs, it's only right to try to examine him and make assumptions.

It's almost like an ISH poster made that article. Perfect timing.

vert48
05-12-2010, 12:28 PM
Wow,
nice to read all these articles of professional journalists, who knew all along exactly what makes lebron tick. Why didn't they write this up until 2 days ago, since it's all so obvious?
yeah Lebron is arrogant, all good athletes are, but how has he turned into a monster now?

Sure there will be lots of posters saying "I always said this" but those are just irrational hating individuals, since i can safely say none of them 'knows' lebron as a person and you can't make a psychological profile from a television broadcast. But how can a journalist spawn this stuff?I am not a Skip Bayless fan, but he is the only guy at ESPN that has EVER criticized LeBron. Everyone else either drank the Kool-Aid, or is too afraid to speak up.

ILLsmak
05-12-2010, 01:45 PM
"No more excuses. Not now, not after this biblical bottoming out that pushes the Cleveland Cavaliers to the brink of an unthinkable collapse. And yet, after Tuesday

TheAnchorman
05-12-2010, 01:47 PM
"No more excuses. Not now, not after this biblical bottoming out that pushes the Cleveland Cavaliers to the brink of an unthinkable collapse. And yet, after Tuesday’s ferocious failure of his professional career, the encompassing embarrassment of a 120-88 Game 5 loss to the Boston Celtics, James dismissed his unthinkably poor performance with this colossal cop-out: “I spoil a lot of people with my play. When you have three bad games in seven years, it’s easy to point them out.”
That's hilarious. James played terrible the entire 2007 NBA Finals, as well as the 1st six games of the 2008 series against the Celtics. Not to mention a few games in his 2006 series against the Pistons. And he's calling it 3 bad games?

lilIlyasova
05-12-2010, 01:52 PM
That's hilarious. James played terrible the entire 2007 NBA Finals, as well as the 1st six games of the 2008 series against the Celtics. Not to mention a few games in his 2006 series against the Pistons. And he's calling it 3 bad games?
Not to mention multiple regular season clunkers in particular vs the bobcats

Semi
05-12-2010, 02:24 PM
somebody saw the funny situation when they talked about rondo's great mathematic skills and you saw that he wore his handband the wrong way? very funny :D

just to stop a bit of the lebron talk, yes he had a no-show but i don't think the he has given up. he will show up in boston, thats for sure, but i doubt if it will be enough...

Simple Jack
05-12-2010, 03:31 PM
How are they spoiled? For being able to see a guy get a bunch of individual accomplishments? The city wants a championship not the best record in NBA 2 years in a row

Do you feel the need to bash LeBron/slurp Kobe in every post you make? You are widely recognized as a troll on this forum and yet it doesn't seem to phase you. Remarkable.

konex
05-12-2010, 03:40 PM
I'm a Kobe guy but this LeBron-bashing is a bit over the top. It seems to me a lot of media folks are butthurt about looking foolish since they've been saying Bron was the GOAT so now they're turning on him.

And fukk the ungrateful Cavs fans. Have they forgotten where they were before LeBron showed up?

jbot
05-12-2010, 03:43 PM
And fukk the ungrateful Cavs fans. Have they forgotten where they were before LeBron showed up?
definitely true but he is supposed to be The best or 2nd best player in the league. the dude stood around and watched his team get beat. i'd be pissed to if i were a fan. there is a certain level that he needs to play on at all times, and though one could argue that every player has a bad game, this guy should not and he's not your average player either.

Snoop_Cat
05-12-2010, 03:44 PM
All this LeBron hate is ridiculous. Yes, he had one bad game but its a ****ing team game and its just as much on the coach/teammates that they're down.
On the chance that Cleveland happens to win this series, all the media clowns are going to be all over his d*ck again.

Who're the people of Cleveland to openly criticize LeBron in such a way. He's by far the best thing to ever happen to your joke of a city. Not try my ass, what kind of idiot would be purposely losing. Kobe had some awful performances the first series against the Thunder but his team stepped it up and covered up for him, its a shame James' teammates are totally incompetent and his coach is an imbecile.

Dwade305
05-12-2010, 03:47 PM
Here we go


Lebron has a torn ligament in his elbow that should keep him out 6 to 8 weeks. He's trying to play through it and not complain, so the media doesn't know it's that serious. Before game 4 he had a shot in the elbow to numb it. You can only get the shot once every 10 days, so last night he couldn't do it.

http://www.fearthesword.com/2010/5/12/1469084/rumor-lebron-james-has-torn-elbow


Easiest and nicest way to get the **** outta cleveland

Lesabotage at is finest

jbot
05-12-2010, 03:49 PM
All this LeBron hate is ridiculous. Yes, he had one bad game but its a ****ing team game and its just as much on the coach/teammates that they're down.
On the chance that Cleveland happens to win this series, all the media clowns are going to be all over his d*ck again.

Who're the people of Cleveland to openly criticize LeBron in such a way. He's by far the best thing to ever happen to your joke of a city. Not try my ass, what kind of idiot would be purposely losing. Kobe had some awful performances the first series against the Thunder but his team stepped it up and covered up for him, its a shame James' teammates are totally incompetent and his coach is an imbecile.
Lebron IS the Cavs, plain and simple. take him away and they're average. he's the superstar of the team and he's the one who is going to catch all the crap.

Micku
05-12-2010, 03:51 PM
He could by doing one simple thing: winning.

-Smak

It depends how he wins.

The thing is, Wade was dominating the Celts on the O. I remember seeing all five players on the Celts paid attention to Wade and ignore the other players, the 5 on 1 box defensive or whatever it's called. If Wade supporting case showed up, then the I'm guessing the Heat would put up a tougher fight. Winning at least one more game.

But Wade was playing passive too for the first two games, but he was striking afterwards. I'm amazed that LBJ is having trouble against the Celts when he had a great regular season against them. Wade played good in the regular season against them, but step it up in the playoffs.

The Cavs need to put it together with their D or have be great at the offensive end. Hopefully both, so we can get a good game.

jbot
05-12-2010, 04:04 PM
now it's a torn ligament? whatever.

cotdt
05-12-2010, 04:04 PM
All this LeBron hate is ridiculous. Yes, he had one bad game but its a ****ing team game and its just as much on the coach/teammates that they're down.
On the chance that Cleveland happens to win this series, all the media clowns are going to be all over his d*ck again.

Who're the people of Cleveland to openly criticize LeBron in such a way. He's by far the best thing to ever happen to your joke of a city. Not try my ass, what kind of idiot would be purposely losing. Kobe had some awful performances the first series against the Thunder but his team stepped it up and covered up for him, its a shame James' teammates are totally incompetent and his coach is an imbecile.

Yeah, I like the way Lebron puts it "I've spoiled a lot of people with my play, only having 3 bad games in seven years."

Spoiled Cleveland fans sigh *shake my head*

LeBron Haynes
05-12-2010, 04:06 PM
All this LeBron hate is ridiculous. Yes, he had one bad game but its a ****ing team game and its just as much on the coach/teammates that they're down.
On the chance that Cleveland happens to win this series, all the media clowns are going to be all over his d*ck again.

Who're the people of Cleveland to openly criticize LeBron in such a way. He's by far the best thing to ever happen to your joke of a city. Not try my ass, what kind of idiot would be purposely losing. Kobe had some awful performances the first series against the Thunder but his team stepped it up and covered up for him, its a shame James' teammates are totally incompetent and his coach is an imbecile.

These are called fair weather fans. Series is over either way tomorrow. No way will Boston will a Game 7 at the Q.

Kingwillball
05-12-2010, 04:16 PM
All this LeBron hate is ridiculous. Yes, he had one bad game but its a ****ing team game and its just as much on the coach/teammates that they're down.
On the chance that Cleveland happens to win this series, all the media clowns are going to be all over his d*ck again.

Who're the people of Cleveland to openly criticize LeBron in such a way. He's by far the best thing to ever happen to your joke of a city. Not try my ass, what kind of idiot would be purposely losing. Kobe had some awful performances the first series against the Thunder but his team stepped it up and covered up for him, its a shame James' teammates are totally incompetent and his coach is an imbecile.


Not one Bad Game he has had 3 Bad games for him this series but more than that his Lack of Energy and Intensity and Focus is what is Really alarming..

DoctorP
03-30-2020, 03:52 PM
Lebron smiling during press conference wearing a lot of gold bling bling

"i don't think paul pierce shot well either"

"we had a great flow going"

"my elbow feels perfectly well, i had no problems with it"

"i'm not a huge motivational type guy to my team, i just play"

"umm, our intensity was there, it just doesn't seem like it when we lose by 30 plus points"

"it can become a short season" *rubs his chin*

What strikes me is that Lebron looks bored and says everything lackadaisically. I wonder what is really going thru his mind.

https://media.giphy.com/media/xTiTnoUjpoH4ASb7oc/giphy.gif

warriorfan
03-30-2020, 04:24 PM
he was faking an injury instead of taking the L like a man