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cotdt
06-03-2010, 07:15 PM
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/playoffs/2010/06/02/20100602_bos_garnett_sound.nba/

Why does KG think so?

B-Low
06-03-2010, 07:16 PM
Same reason he got on all fours and barked like a dog at another grown man. Guy's not right in the head.

Mentally_Pretty
06-03-2010, 07:19 PM
you should'nt have posted this.

now the LeRogaine and STDWade stans are going to come out with their panties swinging while putting their cape on to defend their lovers.

any second now.........

Big One
06-03-2010, 07:19 PM
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/playoffs/2010/06/02/20100602_bos_garnett_sound.nba/

Why does KG think so?

lol you trying to get people to say why kobe is a better scorer than the other two just so you can get happy and wet ur pants?:oldlol:

Micku
06-03-2010, 07:24 PM
you should'nt have posted this.

now the LeRogaine and STDWade stans are going to come out with their panties swinging while putting their cape on to defend their lovers.

any second now.........

ZOMGZ Wde and bron is teh bet eva! dey averg ovr 29 ppg! kobe got 25, lol!1 kobe sux. stpid fakers fanz.

Allstar24
06-03-2010, 07:24 PM
Why do you feel compelled to make a thread any time someone comments on Kobe? I'm not going to watch that video because I don't need KG to tell me that Kobe is on another level as a scorer...I have eyes.

Lebron23
06-03-2010, 07:25 PM
you should'nt have posted this.

now the LeRogaine and STDWade stans are going to come out with their panties swinging while putting their cape on to defend their lovers.

any second now.........


You look like a B1tch.

Mentally_Pretty
06-03-2010, 07:28 PM
You look like a B1tch.
there we have it.:lol


you posting like your about to cry."leavvvee LeBron aaaallooooone!!!!!"

Papaya Petee
06-03-2010, 07:30 PM
Because that's his opinion. I will take Wade and Lebrons 28 ppg on 49-50% then Kobe's 28 ppg on 45-46%. Some might agree, and some might not.

Mentally_Pretty
06-03-2010, 07:31 PM
ZOMGZ Wde and bron is teh bet eva! dey averg ovr 29 ppg! kobe got 25, lol!1 kobe sux. stpid fakers fanz.
i got a headache trying to figure out what you trying to say. stop typing like you are texing with a Razor phone.

unless foreign.

Papaya Petee
06-03-2010, 07:36 PM
i got a headache trying to figure out what you trying to say. stop typing like you are texing with a Razor phone.

unless foreign.

He wasn't being serious.

gxL
06-03-2010, 07:41 PM
come playoffs, kobe is the best player in the world, conserving his energy no doubt.

bdreason
06-03-2010, 07:53 PM
Celtics are trying to bait Kobe into shooting as much as possible. The more he chucks, the better chance the Celtics have to win the game.

airchibundo507
06-03-2010, 08:21 PM
Reverse psychology. Keep on stroking his ego.

LA_Showtime
06-03-2010, 08:24 PM
Interesting. I'd rather see KG say something like, "Kobe is overrated. He can't do it without Shaq or Gasol." Not the politically correct thing to say, but it would make the intensity shoot up.

Batz
06-03-2010, 08:32 PM
Never knew KG would resort to the jinx game.

krayziejcs
06-03-2010, 08:32 PM
Opinions are like @ssholes, everyone has one

LA KB24
06-03-2010, 08:34 PM
A healthy Dwyane Wade is a better basketball player than Kobe.

D'Wade > Kobe > LeBron

NoLayupsRule2
06-04-2010, 12:42 AM
He probably is, as far as creating the last shot goes. After tonight, I doubt Garnett is going to change his opinion though... :oldlol:

PurpleChuck
06-04-2010, 12:48 AM
A healthy Dwyane Wade is a better basketball player than Kobe.

D'Wade > Kobe > LeBron

^This all day long.

Kingwillball
06-04-2010, 12:53 AM
A healthy Dwyane Wade is a better basketball player than Kobe.

D'Wade > Kobe > LeBron


How Come when Lebron and Wade go Head to head Lebron's team Wins and He has better stats than ?

PurpleChuck
06-04-2010, 12:55 AM
How Come when Lebron and Wade go Head to head Lebron's team Wins and He has better stats than ?

Lebron has teammates.

Wade doesn't.

Micku
06-04-2010, 12:55 AM
How Come when Lebron and Wade go Head to head Lebron's team Wins and He has better stats than ?

Cavs>Heat

The reason some of the games were close is because of the defense of the Heat and Wade.

Bodhi
06-04-2010, 12:57 AM
How Come when Lebron and Wade go Head to head Lebron's team Wins and He has better stats than ?

LeBron is a better regular season player while Wade is a better post season player.

The end.

branslowski
06-04-2010, 12:59 AM
KG= Kobe nut hugger....

Kingwillball
06-04-2010, 12:59 AM
LeBron is a better regular season player while Wade is a better post season player.

The end.


Lebron is a great postseason player as well..Check the stats..he just quit against Celtics for reasons unknown.

Doranku
06-04-2010, 01:00 AM
Lebron is a great postseason player as well..Check the stats..he just quit against Celtics for reasons unknown.

This should be LeBron's official motto for him and his fans instead of "Witness". :roll:

Kingwillball
06-04-2010, 01:04 AM
This should be LeBron's official motto for him and his fans instead of "Witness". :roll:


Maybe cause alot of people are questioning his greatness lately.

TheGreatDeraj
06-04-2010, 01:04 AM
Lebron is a great postseason player as well..Check the stats..he just quit against Celtics for reasons unknown.

Oh you are one of those people

Micku
06-04-2010, 01:10 AM
One thing about Kobe that he has is that Kobe have all the skills and could punish you every where. Mid-range, 3pt, post up, and driving.

Wade is the mixture of LeBron and Kobe. Wade use quickness and skills to drive into the paint and he could pull up for the jumper. Even though his jumper wasn't as good as it was in 2009, when he is hot, it is scary.

LeBron is one of the greatest perimeter player at driving to the paint. He could score inside better than Wade and Kobe. He has the most potential to cause the biggest pain to the defense, but he doesn't shoot the jumper unless he is hot or something.

I wouldn't say Kobe is on another level, but I think all three of them big games and have weakness.

Kingwillball
06-04-2010, 01:12 AM
How many Playoff Triple Doubles does Lebron have ? Have many does Kobe and Wade have..Answer combined not as many as Lebron. Lebron has had some Monster Playoff Games already in his career. Now if lebron leaves Cavs and gets paired on a Team with Better Talent and still can't win a Championship within the next 2 years I will agree maybe he isn't a championship player. I will give him the Benefit the doubt after this postseason but time is ticking.

jjayfive
06-04-2010, 01:20 AM
lebron is great.. but he haven't proved that he could win with a great or a bad cast.. but his career is young and he will win one.. kobe is the best right now.. when jordan was putting up great numbers on a bad team and wasn't winning, nobody was labeling the best player..

branslowski
06-04-2010, 01:23 AM
How many Playoff Triple Doubles does Lebron have ? Have many does Kobe and Wade have..Answer combined not as many as Lebron. Lebron has had some Monster Playoff Games already in his career. Now if lebron leaves Cavs and gets paired on a Team with Better Talent and still can't win a Championship within the next 2 years I will agree maybe he isn't a championship player. I will give him the Benefit the doubt after this postseason but time is ticking.

http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af3/laker4life/kobe-2.jpg
http://www.clap.name/images/blog/d_wade.jpg










http://www.oddjack.com/wp-content/lebron_james25.jpg

0 Rings B!TCH

The Iron Fist
06-04-2010, 01:29 AM
How many Playoff Triple Doubles does Lebron have ? Have many does Kobe and Wade have..Answer combined not as many as Lebron. Lebron has had some Monster Playoff Games already in his career. Now if lebron leaves Cavs and gets paired on a Team with Better Talent and still can't win a Championship within the next 2 years I will agree maybe he isn't a championship player. I will give him the Benefit the doubt after this postseason but time is ticking.
How many rings does Lebron have compared to Kobe and Wade? He trails each, 4 and 1.

And lets not say its the teammates that are lacking. They're good enough for Lebron to get more triple doubles,

but not good enough to actually win a title? :confusedshrug:


Hes not a championship player now.

StacksOnDeck
06-04-2010, 01:31 AM
Same reason he got on all fours and barked like a dog at another grown man. Guy's not right in the head.

So you're insinuating that KObe is not on another level? :rolleyes:

Kingwillball
06-04-2010, 01:36 AM
Your Right Everyone Lebron Sucks..Wade won a Ship in an Off Year against A weak team with a Still pretty Dominant Shaq. Kobe Won 3 with an Even Better Shaq..Lebron Gets The Diesel without an Fuel left in the Tank..That is the Story of Lebron..Always have had Old and average teammates and Poor coaching.

AK47DR91
06-04-2010, 01:37 AM
How many Playoff Triple Doubles does Lebron have ? Have many does Kobe and Wade have..Answer combined not as many as Lebron. Lebron has had some Monster Playoff Games already in his career. Now if lebron leaves Cavs and gets paired on a Team with Better Talent and still can't win a Championship within the next 2 years I will agree maybe he isn't a championship player. I will give him the Benefit the doubt after this postseason but time is ticking.

What does triple doubles have to do with being a great scorer?

Wade is a good scorer but a lot of it is via inside attacks and free throws.
Same with LeBron. Neither of them have the same mid-range or long-range skill that Kobe has.

Kobe can score inside, outside and get to the FT. And as much of an MJ fan I am I still think Kobe's perimeter game is better than MJ's.

And we don't even have to compare championships or anything, just look at the overall body of work, scoring-wise.

Kingwillball
06-04-2010, 01:41 AM
What does triple doubles have to do with being a great scorer?

Wade is a good scorer but a lot of it is via inside attacks and free throws.
Same with LeBron. Neither of them have the same mid-range or long-range skill that Kobe has.

Kobe can score inside, outside and get to the FT. And as much of an MJ fan I am I still think Kobe's perimeter game is better than MJ's.

And we don't even have to compare championships or anything, just look at the overall body of work, scoring-wise.


That is Why I am not sure of WTF Garnet is talking about.. Lebron Controlls the Game in so many ways than just Scoring. Passing, Rebounds and Defense. Kobe is a Clutch Player and a Good Shooter but that is All he is better than Lebron at.

AK47DR91
06-04-2010, 01:48 AM
That is Why I am not sure of WTF Garnet is talking about.. Lebron Controlls the Game in so many ways than just Scoring. Passing, Rebounds and Defense. Kobe is a Clutch Player and a Good Shooter but that is All he is better than Lebron at.

And that's what KG is talking about, scoring points. He didn't say who's the better player.

Micku
06-04-2010, 02:19 AM
Wade is a good scorer but a lot of it is via inside attacks and free throws.
Same with LeBron. Neither of them have the same mid-range or long-range skill that Kobe has.

Y'know what is amazing though? Wade didn't do so bad against Boston with the range ball. He shot 40% from the three point land afterall. He hardly shot the mid, but he hardly missed the mid either. He shot more from downtown, and making them. And he didn't go to the line a lot either. Wade used to rival Kobe on the mid in 2009, with both of them shooting around 42% from the mid.

Bron didn't have that good of a series, and he scored more inside than outside, but he was the better outside jumper than Kobe (slightly) and Wade this regular season. Going into the playoffs, he shot about 40% from the mid, which is good. But he couldn't do it against the Celts. He still averaged around 27 ppg or something.

I don't think Kobe is on another level in terms of scoring ability because Wade and LeBron could score the same, most of the time with better efficiently, but I do think that Kobe have more different ways to score.

PowerGlove
06-04-2010, 02:22 AM
Y'know what is amazing though? Wade didn't do so bad against Boston with the range ball. He shot 40% from the three point land afterall. He hardly shot the mid, but he hardly missed the mid either. He shot more from downtown, and making them. And he didn't go to the line a lot either. Wade used to rival Kobe on the mid in 2009, with both of them shooting around 42% from the mid.

Bron didn't have that good of a series, and he scored more inside than outside, but he was the better outside jumper than Kobe (slightly) and Wade this regular season. Going into the playoffs, he shot about 40% from the mid, which is good. But he couldn't do it against the Celts. He still averaged around 27 ppg or something.

I don't think Kobe is on another level in terms of scoring ability because Wade and LeBron could score the same, most of the time with better efficiently, but I do think that Kobe have more different ways to score.

So where does Melo rank? He can score in multiple ways right? There is a difference between the most versatile and the best scorer.

Micku
06-04-2010, 02:32 AM
So where does Melo rank? He can score in multiple ways right? There is a difference between the most versatile and the best scorer.

He is underrated. Even I forgot about him. Out of the 03 draft, he is probably the most versatile scorer.

Wade and LeBron are more efficient at scoring as of now, and they could get around the same points. Kobe isn't as efficient as Wade and LeBron either, but he can score in more ways than those two.

lukekarts
06-04-2010, 04:18 AM
I can totally understand Garnett's comments.

Kobe is the best scorer of the 3. In the last decade there has not been anyone else who comes close to his effectiveness in scoring from anywhere, and translating those points into wins. I also don't think I've seen any player come close to making some of the shots Kobe has - particularly all those hand in face 3 point shots he has made this year.

jrong
06-04-2010, 08:15 AM
you should'nt have posted this.

now the LeRogaine and STDWade stans are going to come out with their panties swinging while putting their cape on to defend their lovers.

any second now.........

LOL! Bron looks to me like an example of a human being who is devolving instead of evolving. By the time he's 40, he should be looking like a full-on Cro-Magnon man or Neanderthal.

Yung D-Will
06-04-2010, 08:17 AM
How many Playoff Triple Doubles does Lebron have ? Have many does Kobe and Wade have..Answer combined not as many as Lebron. Lebron has had some Monster Playoff Games already in his career. Now if lebron leaves Cavs and gets paired on a Team with Better Talent and still can't win a Championship within the next 2 years I will agree maybe he isn't a championship player. I will give him the Benefit the doubt after this postseason but time is ticking.

Triple doubles do not = winning

So I have yet to see your point.

NBASTATMAN
06-04-2010, 12:33 PM
A healthy Dwyane Wade is a better basketball player than Kobe.

D'Wade > Kobe > LeBron


I agree... Though I would say Lebron is the most dominant player in the game.. Not as complete as kobe or wade...

Killbot
06-04-2010, 12:36 PM
KG= Kobe nut hugger....

Hopefully KG is big enough to snap Kobe's nuts in half.

catch24
06-04-2010, 12:37 PM
I agree... Though I would say Lebron is the most dominant player in the game.. Not as complete as kobe or wade...

Co-sign. '08-09 D-Wade was the best perimeter player I've seen since first 3-peat Jordan.

BirmingHamBama
06-04-2010, 12:41 PM
Co-sign. '08-09 D-Wade was the best perimeter player I've seen since first 3-peat Jordan.


lol NBAstatman and Catch 24. Is this the Kobe Bryant Hater summit? Let's rank all the swingmen better than kobe.

Dwade
Lebron
Durant
Joe Johnson
TMAC
Vince Carter
Rick Davis
Luke Walton
Sasha Vujacic
... Kobe bryant

Damn, Kobe is not even the best guard on his team...

catch24
06-04-2010, 12:45 PM
lol NBAstatman and Catch 24. Is this the Kobe Bryant Hater summit? Let's rank all the swingmen better than kobe.

Dwade
Lebron
Durant
Joe Johnson
TMAC
Vince Carter
Rick Davis
Luke Walton
Sasha Vujacic
... Kobe bryant

Damn, Kobe is not even the best guard on his team...

Kobe has had the better career and it isn't even close IMO. But, that season, Wade had the best combination of athleticism, speed, skill, productivity and efficiency I've seen since MJ '91-93. Kobe 05-06 is a close second.

cotdt
06-04-2010, 02:12 PM
Kobe has had the better career and it isn't even close IMO. But, that season, Wade had the best combination of athleticism, speed, skill, productivity and efficiency I've seen since MJ '91-93. Kobe 05-06 is a close second.

Kobe 2006 also had to play as the team's defensive specialist. That takes a lot of energy out of you.

zORi
06-04-2010, 02:23 PM
Interesting. I'd rather see KG say something like, "Kobe is overrated. He can't do it without Shaq or Gasol." Not the politically correct thing to say, but it would make the intensity shoot up.

Oh God I wish he, or Pierce or Sheed, would say that. That would triple the excitement of Game 2.

Lakerlove420
06-04-2010, 02:30 PM
Kobe>Wade>Carmelo>Lebron

NBASTATMAN
06-04-2010, 02:30 PM
And that's what KG is talking about, scoring points. He didn't say who's the better player.


In all reality kobe is the best scorer in the league.. And he is the best closer.. Though Lebron is getting really good at closing games too... Wade's only weakness is closing games. But alot of that is because he is tired by the end of the game... Kobe struggled closing out games when he had to dominate in 2005-6..Most players struggle late in games when they have to carry the load ..

NBASTATMAN
06-04-2010, 02:35 PM
lol NBAstatman and Catch 24. Is this the Kobe Bryant Hater summit? Let's rank all the swingmen better than kobe.

Dwade
Lebron
Durant
Joe Johnson
TMAC
Vince Carter
Rick Davis
Luke Walton
Sasha Vujacic
... Kobe bryant

Damn, Kobe is not even the best guard on his team...


Catch is a Laker fan and a big FAn of Kobe's... Try again... Some people can see the truth.. Kobe is amazing but Wade has no player on his team that is as good as either Odom or Artest.. Never mind Gasol and Bynum...


I will point out the fact that this Laker team went 6-2 without Kobe and Bynum.. They almost beat the Celtics and Nuggets without kobe ... This Laker team is just better than all the other teams..


I wish Wade had this team around him...

NBASTATMAN
06-04-2010, 02:38 PM
Kobe 2006 also had to play as the team's defensive specialist. That takes a lot of energy out of you.


Did you even watch the Lakers that season.. In 2006 Kobe never played defense.. I can FIND articles in which Tex Winters criticizes Kobe's defense that season.. Even phil had negative things to say about Kobe's defense in that season...

Papaya Petee
06-04-2010, 03:03 PM
In 08-09 Wade finished 3rd in DPOY and was 2nd team All Defense, so the Kobe argument that he was the defensive stopper doesn't really work.

BallsOut
06-29-2010, 06:06 PM
I can totally understand Garnett's comments.

Kobe is the best scorer of the 3. In the last decade there has not been anyone else who comes close to his effectiveness in scoring from anywhere, and translating those points into wins. I also don't think I've seen any player come close to making some of the shots Kobe has - particularly all those hand in face 3 point shots he has made this year.

True. Wade and Lebron could never score 81 even if they tried.

Yung D-Will
06-29-2010, 06:08 PM
We know Kobe's a better scorer then them.

So what's the point of this topic

206kid
06-29-2010, 06:16 PM
Kobe's a better finisher than both of them - Garnett

I guess KG went brain dead went Wade scored 46 points on them game 4.
I'm pretty sure his opinion changed when Kobe went 6-24 in game 7.

BlueandGold
06-29-2010, 06:22 PM
no one actually saw the video? That quote is pretty much a skew on what KG actually said. The exact quote was:

"Wade and Lebron are obviously great scorers but I think Kobe is the best out of all of them. He just has another level to him."

He's not saying Kobe is on another level scoring wise compared to wade/lebron but that he's the best if you had to pick one from the three and that he has another level to him.

Yung D-Will
06-29-2010, 06:24 PM
Kobe's a better finisher than both of them - Garnett

I guess KG went brain dead went Wade scored 46 points on them game 4.
I'm pretty sure his opinion changed when Kobe went 6-24 in game 7.

Why would your opinion of a great scorer go down because he had a bad game?

I love the logic. O wait Jodran had a poor shooting game I guess I should just deem Hakeem the better scorer

bleedinpurpleTwo
06-29-2010, 06:25 PM
"advanced stats" clearly show that Kobe is terribly inefficient and an average SG.

asdf1990
06-29-2010, 06:36 PM
come playoffs, kobe is the best player in the world, conserving his energy no doubt.

lolll. check his stats against teams that played defense, okc and boston.

necya
06-29-2010, 07:29 PM
i don't care about kobe but why the most ridiculous post come from kobe fans???
i'm really astonished by some comments, only pure bullshit

highwhey
06-29-2010, 07:31 PM
I detect hate in this thread, SO **** YOU ALL B!TCHES.

bleedinpurpleTwo
06-29-2010, 07:39 PM
i don't care about kobe but why the most ridiculous post come from kobe fans???
i'm really astonished by some comments, only pure bullshit

if you are referring to my post above, it is an inside joke... for one particular poster who likes to reference "advanced stats"

ashbelly
06-29-2010, 07:43 PM
Because that's his opinion. I will take Wade and Lebrons 28 ppg on 49-50% then Kobe's 28 ppg on 45-46%. Some might agree, and some might not.



:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

necya
06-29-2010, 07:46 PM
if you are referring to my post above, it is an inside joke... for one particular poster who likes to reference "advanced stats"
not yours man

indiefan24
06-29-2010, 08:02 PM
God himself could say Kobe > LeBron and Wade but it wouldn't be true right?

ashbelly
06-29-2010, 08:13 PM
God himself could say Kobe > LeBron and Wade but it wouldn't be true right?


Yes, it wouldn't be true, because men lie,women lie,gods lie but numbers don't lie. And wade/lebron numbers/stats >>>> Kobe's

indiefan24
06-29-2010, 09:07 PM
Yes, it wouldn't be true, because men lie,women lie,gods lie but numbers don't lie. And wade/lebron numbers/stats >>>> Kobe's

you are correct numbers don't lie: 5 > 1

Courtside View
06-29-2010, 10:42 PM
you are correct numbers don't lie: 5 > 1

Pip > Kobe
6>5

Russell = GOAT now and forever (no player's getting 11 rings again).

RIIIIIIIIIGHT?

shrempf_on_rice
06-29-2010, 10:53 PM
Yes, it wouldn't be true, because men lie,women lie,gods lie but numbers don't lie. And wade/lebron numbers/stats >>>> Kobe's


You know whats funny though is if Lebron or Wade had the same injury Kobe had their stats would look like this 0pts, 0rbs, 0ast, 0stls, 0blks. thats almost a guarantee. :oldlol:

ginobli2311
06-29-2010, 11:14 PM
You know whats funny though is if Lebron or Wade had the same injury Kobe had their stats would look like this 0pts, 0rbs, 0ast, 0stls, 0blks. thats almost a guarantee. :oldlol:

yea....i guess kobe has been hurt his entire career. thats why his efficiency and numbers are worse across the board.

cotdt
06-29-2010, 11:16 PM
You know whats funny though is if Lebron or Wade had the same injury Kobe had their stats would look like this 0pts, 0rbs, 0ast, 0stls, 0blks. thats almost a guarantee. :oldlol:

This. :rockon:

indiefan24
06-29-2010, 11:36 PM
Pip > Kobe
6>5

Russell = GOAT now and forever (no player's getting 11 rings again).

RIIIIIIIIIGHT?

not after next year :D

yes russell is the goat champion

Courtside View
06-30-2010, 12:09 AM
not after next year :D

yes russell is the goat champion

1. So that means that right now Pip is better?

2. GOAT champion and GOAT player because of his rings, right?

Batz
06-30-2010, 12:10 AM
1. So that means that right now Pip is better?

2. GOAT champion and GOAT player because of his rings, right?
AS THE LEADER


Kobe has two as the Leader, Pip has 0.

plowking
06-30-2010, 12:11 AM
When he said "on another level", did he mean a level below Wade and James, because that's what it looks like to the rest of the world.

Courtside View
06-30-2010, 12:17 AM
AS THE LEADER


Kobe has two as the Leader, Pip has 0.

My point, simpleton, is that you have to factor in other things besides just rings but you have a lot of people who act like rings are the ONLY factor in determining who's better between players when rings are A factor but not THE factor. Otherwise, Pip > Kobe and Russell = GOAT.

BTW, Bryant has 3 rings as the secondary player, vs 2 as the man and yet some people still try to act like him winning 6 rings will somehow = Jordan. Yet if you say that Pip is better, then they want to start talking about "as the leader" and other things.

And Russell has 11 rings as THE LEADER, so he >>>> everyone else forever, right?

Batz
06-30-2010, 12:19 AM
My point, simpleton, is that you have to factor in other things besides just rings but you have a lot of people who act like rings are the ONLY factor in determining who's better between players when rings are A factor but not THE factor. Otherwise, Pip > Kobe and Russell = GOAT.

BTW, Bryant has 3 rings as the secondary player, vs 2 as the man and yet some people still try to act like him winning 6 rings will somehow = Jordan. Yet if you say that Pip is better, then they want to start talking about "as the leader" and other things.

And Russell has 11 rings as THE LEADER, so he >>>> everyone else forever, right?
If you talk about greatness, yes Russel is the greatest player to ever touch a basketball. He is the greatest winner and Champion. He should top every list.

Courtside View
06-30-2010, 12:22 AM
If you talk about greatness, yes Russel is the greatest player to ever touch a basketball. He is the greatest winner and Champion. He should top every list.

A. So that means you think rings "as the leader" are the ultimate judge of GOAT

and

B. You think Russell is the greatest player of all time?

Micku
06-30-2010, 12:23 AM
You know whats funny though is if Lebron or Wade had the same injury Kobe had their stats would look like this 0pts, 0rbs, 0ast, 0stls, 0blks. thats almost a guarantee. :oldlol:

http://i48.tinypic.com/25zmnm8.jpg

DKLaker
06-30-2010, 02:19 AM
You know whats funny though is if Lebron or Wade had the same injury Kobe had their stats would look like this 0pts, 0rbs, 0ast, 0stls, 0blks. thats almost a guarantee. :oldlol:

:cheers:

JustinJDW
06-30-2010, 02:35 AM
http://i48.tinypic.com/25zmnm8.jpgHaha, look at D-Wade's kid playing PSP in the back. If I was D-Wade, I would smack him right across the ****ing face. This is the FINALS! LAKER AND CELTICS GAME 5 SON! U BETTER WATCH THIS SHIT!

PUT THE GAME DOWN SON!!!

Go Getter
06-30-2010, 02:37 AM
Lebron and Wade "get in the zone" but we haven't seen them get in the zone quite like Kobe has [80+, record for 3's in a game, etc].

Yung D-Will
06-30-2010, 03:13 AM
1. So that means that right now Pip is better?

2. GOAT champion and GOAT player because of his rings, right?


No don't be stupid.

Just because a player wins championships doesn't make them the better player

I think you have to take six things into consideration when ranking players


Peak:
Prime:
Consistency/Longevity:
Career:
Championships(As the main option):
Playoff performances:

Jacks3
06-30-2010, 03:38 AM
No don't be stupid.

Just because a player wins championships doesn't make them the better player

I think you have to take six things into consideration when ranking players


Peak:
Prime:
Consistency/Longevity:
Career:
Championships(As the main option):
Playoff performances:
Isn't career pretty much a combination of all those other things?:confusedshrug:

BallsOut
06-30-2010, 02:01 PM
http://i48.tinypic.com/25zmnm8.jpg

lol I remember that. Wade's reaction to a 31 year old Bryant with a messed up index finger on his shooting hand still dropping 24pts in a quarter against the Celtics defense.

EarlTheGoat
06-30-2010, 02:11 PM
Garnett speaking truth and all the insecure jealous trolls attacking him personally.

You gotta love it.

:lol

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
06-30-2010, 02:33 PM
Garnett speaking truth and all the insecure jealous trolls attacking him personally.

You gotta love it.

:lol

lol....KG speaking the truth haha :roll:

Big.Nasty
06-30-2010, 02:39 PM
By the way, KG is on no level anymore, probably on the ground floor! :lol

:cheers:

Papaya Petee
06-30-2010, 03:01 PM
lol I remember that. Wade's reaction to a 31 year old Bryant with a messed up index finger on his shooting hand still dropping 24pts in a quarter against the Celtics defense.

And his below 50% Shooting on the game while his team lost?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTgxnKPwJmg

XxNemesis29xX
06-30-2010, 03:09 PM
And his below 50% Shooting on the game while his team lost?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTgxnKPwJmg
Wait a second, isn't basketball a TEAM sport? So, if one person dominates when the game's getting out of hand, the win should be a TEAM effort right? Makes sense!

And the below 50% was because of terrible plays by the team (Artest especially) towards the end, getting trapped, passing Kobe the ball with 4 sec. on the 24.

BallsOut
06-30-2010, 03:09 PM
And his below 50% Shooting on the game while his team lost?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTgxnKPwJmg

http://i48.tinypic.com/24pjpz7.jpg

Why you mad tho :lol