Mo Williams and Delonte West on trading block

[1~Gibson~1]

http://twitter.com/pdcavsinsider

Sources say #Cavs are testing trade market for Mo Williams, Delonte West: http://bit.ly/d1UzIV
i like both players but whatever is best for the team, im in.

Update:

-- If the Cavs decide to trade Mo Williams, one possible destination could be Toronto in exchange for Jose Calderon. Williams is a more dynamic scorer and Calderon is more of a distributor. Both are great free-throw shooters, but neither player is a good defender.

Their contracts are similar in amount and length. The Raptors would like to move Calderon and swingman Hedo Turkoglu.

-- Guard Delonte West doesn't appear to be in the team's plans for next year. He's in the last year of his contract and is expected to be traded.

[Batz]

inb4 a lakers fan says MITCH DO IT!

[HylianNightmare]

Magic need hop on west

[Lebron23]

This is the final nail in the coffin. It looks like LeBron would be wearing a Bulls uniform at the start of the season.

[Amil23]

I just hope Delonte doesnt end up in Orlando or LAs hands,Screw Mo he is a choke so I dont care if he goes

[Sarcastic]

This is the final nail in the coffin. It looks like LeBron would be wearing a Bulls uniform at the start of the season.

You gonna be mad when he signs with the Knicks?

[Lebron23]

You gonna be mad when he signs with the Knicks?

I hope he sign with the Chicago Bulls.

[Tito Beasley]

This is the final nail in the coffin. It looks like LeBron would be wearing a Bulls uniform at the start of the season.

LMAO

Lebron is NOT GOING TO THE BULLS

[cavsfanatic]

Best news i heard all day. time to get rid of these regular season players and get some players that perform when the lights get brighter.

I heard the kings want mo to pair him wit tyreke. idk why tho but they dont have nothin i want...unless they parting with they lottery pick

[mlh1981]

I hope he sign with the Chicago Bulls.
:eek:

You dissapoint me son :no:

[1~Gibson~1]

why would the Cavs trade him to Orlando or LA? :lol

[bhallic24]

Magic need hop on west

actually gloria james beat the Magic to the punch on that one. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[bhallic24]

I just hope Delonte doesnt end up in Orlando or LAs hands,Screw Mo he is a choke so I dont care if he goes

I think the greatest punishment for those two losers is to actually have Lebron go to another team and just have those two losers stay with the Cavs on a failing franchise once again. Maybe sign a guy like Larry Hughes and/or Ricky Davis and/or Eddie House as well just to make it more frustating.

[BALLin01]

:eek:

You dissapoint me son :no:

He's not a Cavalier fan...

[Captain Kirk]

Out of all the players I thought Cleveland would try to move, West and Williams were last on that list. Delonte West can be a very valuable piece on any playoff team. And while Mo may have failed to show up sometimes, I really don't see how the Cavs shortcomings can fall on anyone but Lebron and the coaching staff.

I really can't imagine the Cavs being better without West and Williams. Unless a team gives up a really good player for one of those guys, the Cavs don't get better. I can only imagine a scenario where both West and Williams go to the same team for a guy like Tony Parker or S&T with Atlanta, and even then I don't see how giving up these particular two guys makes Cleveland better. It's madness.

[Mirjalovic]

resign Shannon + Farmar = Delonte.

[Lebron23]

He's not a Cavalier fan...

No Mike Brown
No Danny Ferry
No Shaq and Ilgauskas next season
West and Williams are on the trading block.
I hope the Cavs draft Harrison Barnes in the 2011 NBA Draft. He's gonna be the next NBA Superstar.

It suck if LeBron would follow in the footsteps of Allen Iverson.

[PowerGlove]

Delonte to the C's.

[Captain Kirk]

Delonte to the C's.

I'd like that. I wish he was still a Celtic. I'd like to see him play with Rondo off the bench.

[Lebron23]

Delonte to the C's.

Cavs should have traded West before the NBA trading deadline.

[1~Gibson~1]

i wouldnt mind:

PGs
Jason Kidd
Chauncey Billups
*Monta Ellis
Jordan Farmar

Wings
Pietrus/Barnes
Ray Allen - FA
Daquan Cook
Carlos Delfino
Hedo Turkoglu
Marco Belineli
Mike Miller - FA
Nicholas Batum
Aaron Afflalo
JR Smith
Corey Maggette
Shane Battier
Trevor Ariza
Kevin Martin
Ron Artest
Richard Jefferson


*there's a RUMOR....RUMOR....RUMOR (not the real f-in deal but a RUMOR) that the Cavs and GS are gonna swing a major deal b4 free-agency (July 1st). dont know how true the rumor is though.

[Amil23]

resign Shannon + Farmar = Delonte.
no one wants those 2 scrubs

[InfiniteBaskets]

West could be a valuable salary relief piece to any team. But I don't see many teams wanting to trade for Mo in exchange for fair value.

If this guy can't win as the second option on a team with LeBron then you'd better be prepared to have Mo as your third option if you're trading for him. And really, how many players that are third options would the Cavs take in exchange for Mo that have a realistic chance of happening?

[1~Gibson~1]

no one wants those 2 scrubs
i wouldnt mind either one, but i'd choose Delonte over both

[bagelred]

So are the Cavs clued in that Lebron isn't resigning or what? They are going bonkers these past few weeks.

[Lebron23]

no one wants those 2 scrubs

I would LMAO if the Lakers acquires Darren Collison from the New Orleans Hornets.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

no one wants those 2 scrubs
he didnt say the lakers would trade them to the cavs.

[Amil23]

i wouldnt mind either one, but i'd choose Delonte over both
neither can brings what Delonte brings and Shannon Brown just is a bad ball player period,athleticism aside

[Amil23]

he didnt say the lakers would trade them to the cavs.
yeah my bad mis read,but neither are anywhere near as good as Delonte

[Foster5k]

Doesn't matter who leaves or stays. If Lebron James doesn't resign, then the Cavs franchise is done.

But yeah, Adam Morrison + Shannon Brown for Delonte. Do it Mitch! :D

[cavsfanatic]

i wouldnt mind:

PGs
Jason Kidd
Chauncey Billups
*Monta Ellis
Jordan Farmar

Wings
Pietrus/Barnes
Ray Allen - FA
Daquan Cook
Carlos Delfino
Hedo Turkoglu
Marco Belineli
Mike Miller - FA
Nicholas Batum
Aaron Afflalo
JR Smith
Corey Maggette
Shane Battier
Trevor Ariza
Kevin Martin
Ron Artest
Richard Jefferson


*there's a RUMOR....RUMOR....RUMOR (not the real f-in deal but a RUMOR) that the Cavs and GS are gonna swing a major deal b4 the trade deadline. dont know how true the rumor is though.
Heard that also. Then heard the Cavs were shopping mo to the kings and the kings like it. Mo would be good backup on title team. His defense and passing is too poor to start on teams with title hopes.

[Lebron23]

Doesn't matter who leaves or stays. If Lebron James doesn't resign, then the Cavs franchise is done.

But yeah, Adam Morrison + Shannon Brown for Delonte. Do it Mitch! :D


JJ Hickson, Anthony Parker, Delonte West, and Mo Williams for Andrew Bynum, Adam Morrison, and Shannon Brown.

[Black Joker]

:eek:

You dissapoint me son :no:
+1

i've noticed him reping Lebron to the Bulls, and all i can do is shake my head

[1~Gibson~1]

So are the Cavs clued in that Lebron isn't resigning or what? They are going bonkers these past few weeks.
much like teams like Miami, NJ, and NY are doing (cleaning house and start over) i think the Cavs are doing the same except not throwing away EVERYBODY. Hint: No more Mike Brown, no more Danny Ferry, Mo and Delonte might go, Shaq is gona, Z will probably retire (we still have the draft) and free-agency hasnt even started yet :lol

imo Mo and Delonte will get traded and Jamison will too

[Amil23]

JJ Hickson, Anthony Parker, Delonte West, and Mo Williams for Andrew Bynum, Adam Morrison, and Shannon Brown.
No,the Cavs would be getting rid of four good players to get 1 good player

[asdf1990]

no one wants adam morrison, he looks like a serial killer from the 70s.

[1~Gibson~1]

neither can brings what Delonte brings and Shannon Brown just is a bad ball player period,athleticism aside
like i said, i'd take Delonte over both but at the same time i like all 3.

Shannon Brown brings athleticism
Jordan Farmar brings youth and shooting off the bench
Delonte brings crafty scoring, defense, and toughness

[Lebron23]

No,the Cavs would be getting rid of four good players to get 1 good player

Bynum is overrated, but he has the potential to become a top 5 Center in the NBA.

LeBron would resign with the Cavaliers if they acquire 7'1" Andrew Bynum from the Los Angeles Lakers.

An injured Bynum > JJ Hickson.

[bagelred]

No,the Cavs would be getting rid of four good players to get 1 good player

:roll: Yeah, THAT's the reason the trade won't happen. :rolleyes: :lol

[1~Gibson~1]

Heard that also. Then heard the Cavs were shopping mo to the kings and the kings like it. Mo would be good backup on title team. His defense and passing is too poor to start on teams with title hopes.
i think he'd be a good Manu Ginobli type 6th man...(not comparing the players, im comparing the roles)

he's a streaky scorer, and when he's not scoring he really isnt helping the team. albeit, if our coach had better offensive technique that couldve helped, but that was then and this is now.

[1~Gibson~1]

:roll: Yeah, THAT's the reason the trade won't happen. :rolleyes: :lol
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

shutupt Lebron23. i WOULD like to have Bynum though :ohwell:

[Lebron23]

Delonte West, Mo Williams, and JJ Hickson for Anthony Randolph and Monta Ellis.

Cavaliers Starting 5


C- Sasha Kaun
F- Anthony Randolph
F- LeBron James
G- Danny Green or Daniel Gibson
G- Monta Ellis

Bench: Eyenga, Varejao, Powe, Gibson/Green.

[Amil23]

like i said, i'd take Delonte over both but at the same time i like all 3.

Shannon Brown brings athleticism
Jordan Farmar brings youth and shooting off the bench
Delonte brings crafty scoring, defense, and toughness
no doubt,if we could get Farmar and Brown just to have them, sure ill take them,just wouldnt trade to get em

[1~Gibson~1]

Delonte West, Mo Williams, and JJ Hickson for Anthony Randolph and Monta Ellis.

Cavaliers Starting 5


C- Sasha Kaun
F- Anthony Randolph
F- LeBron James
G- Danny Green or Daniel Gibson
G- Monta Ellis

Bench: Eyenga, Varejao, Powe, Gibson/Green.
1st: thank God Sasha is finally coming over :bowdown:
we need his precense in the paint

2nd: Parker would still be our starting 2

3rd: Varejao or Jamison would start (hopefully Jamison gets traded though to be honest)

[cavsfanatic]

Delonte West, Mo Williams, and JJ Hickson for Anthony Randolph and Monta Ellis.

Cavaliers Starting 5


C- Sasha Kaun
F- Anthony Randolph
F- LeBron James
G- Danny Green or Daniel Gibson
G- Monta Ellis

Bench: Eyenga, Varejao, Powe, Gibson/Green.
That team would be terrible. Where jamison?

[Lebron23]

This trade is successful

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2bqpf9c

Delonte West, Mo Williams, and JJ Hickson for Anthony Randolph and Monta Ellis.

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[game3524]

No Mike Brown
No Danny Ferry
No Shaq and Ilgauskas next season
West and Williams are on the trading block.
I hope the Cavs draft Harrison Barnes in the 2011 NBA Draft. He's gonna be the next NBA Superstar.

It suck if LeBron would follow in the footsteps of Allen Iverson.

That was worse, they overturned the team right after they went to the NBA Finals.

[Lebron23]

That team would be terrible. Where jamison?

Off the bench. Randolph is currently a better shot blocker than Jamison. He reminds me of a younger version of Kevin Garnett.

[Lebron23]

That was worse, they overturned the team right after they went to the NBA Finals.


I was also a huge Allen Iverson fan. It sucks that his team never won an NBA title.

The 2001 Sixers were defeated by one of the best teams in NBA History.

Love to see Iverson sign with the Lakers or Celtics next season.

[1~Gibson~1]

idk what will happen to Delonte and Mo but i DO know that major ish will happen this summer! :cheers:

[MeLO MvP 15]

i wouldnt mind:

PGs
Jason Kidd
Chauncey Billups
*Monta Ellis
Jordan Farmar

Wings
Pietrus/Barnes
Ray Allen - FA
Daquan Cook
Carlos Delfino
Hedo Turkoglu
Marco Belineli
Mike Miller - FA
Nicholas Batum
Aaron Afflalo
JR Smith
Corey Maggette
Shane Battier
Trevor Ariza
Kevin Martin
Ron Artest
Richard Jefferson


*there's a RUMOR....RUMOR....RUMOR (not the real f-in deal but a RUMOR) that the Cavs and GS are gonna swing a major deal b4 free-agency (July 1st). dont know how true the rumor is though.

obviously just a rumor, but I seriously doubt that because, that probably means that Cleveland takes on long term deals (either Maggette or Ellis) which I don't think they do before free agency because they would take on a lot of long term money with out a guarantee that LeBron stays, which is a huge risk.

[game3524]

I was also a huge Allen Iverson fan. It sucks that his team never won an NBA title.

The 2001 Sixers were beaten by one of the best team in NBA History.

Yup, AI's career in Philly was sabotage by Larry Brown's stupid personnel decisions, still pissed about the DC trade.

[1~Gibson~1]

obviously just a rumor, but I seriously doubt that because, that probably means that Cleveland takes on long term deals (either Maggette or Ellis) which I don't think they do before free agency because they would take on a lot of long term money with out a guarantee that LeBron stays, which is a huge risk.
i could see it happening. this way if we actually dont sign lebron, at least we have Monta Ellis to fall back on. whereas if we dont....we're stuck with Mo Williams as our main option and alot of fans will be looking like this -----> :rant

and as cavsfanatic said, we were also rumored to be talking with the Kings so we could go a different direction

[coin24]

I think the greatest punishment for those two losers is to actually have Lebron go to another team and just have those two losers stay with the Cavs on a failing franchise once again. Maybe sign a guy like Larry Hughes and/or Ricky Davis and/or Eddie House as well just to make it more frustating.

:cheers: Awesome post!


Those 2 have not showed up in the playoffs for the last 2 years at all.

I would scrap most of the roster honestly, and get a coach that will bench lebrons ass when he plays like a tard. He is not a pg and needs to learn this...

[Real Men Wear Green]

How does a team with no coach and no GM even have a "trading block?"

[Lebron23]

How does a team with no coach and no GM even have a "trading block?"


Coach LeBron
Gm LeBron

[Real Men Wear Green]

Coach LeBron
Gm LeBron
Very possible. But, why Mo?

[Amil23]

Very possible. But, why Mo?
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1085/1239924483_5b8298f5e4.jpg

[GiveItToBurrito]

I just hope Delonte doesnt end up in Orlando or LAs hands,Screw Mo he is a choke so I dont care if he goes

Delonte would be perfect in LA, he basically does everything Fisher does but better and can even create a shot.

I can't imagine where these guys will wind up, too. Delonte West would be a great fit in Charlotte, he definitely seems like a Larry Brown type. I could see Mo in Toronto, I guess. The big piece the Cavs have is Varejao, who would be perfect in NY if Lebron goes to the Knicks.

[Lebron23]

Very possible. But, why Mo?

http://www.nba.com/media/history/magic_anderson_88.jpg

[Foster5k]

Delonte would be perfect in LA, he basically does everything Fisher does but better

Except make super clutch shots in the playoffs and finals.

[The_Yearning]

Delonte West, Mo Williams, and JJ Hickson for Anthony Randolph and Monta Ellis.

Cavaliers Starting 5


C- Sasha Kaun
F- Anthony Randolph
F- LeBron James
G- Danny Green or Daniel Gibson
G- Monta Ellis

Bench: Eyenga, Varejao, Powe, Gibson/Green.

wow this guy is the biggest goon on this board

[Grinder]

Delonte West, Mo Williams, and JJ Hickson for Anthony Randolph and Monta Ellis.

Cavaliers Starting 5


C- Sasha Kaun
F- Anthony Randolph
F- LeBron James
G- Danny Green or Daniel Gibson
G- Monta Ellis

Bench: Eyenga, Varejao, Powe, Gibson/Green.

I'd be surprised if this team made the playoffs/was anything better than an 8 seed. Sasha Kaun can't do anything offensively except score on dunks and put backs. Anthony Randolph is completely unproven, Ellis is a chucker and needs the ball almost as much as Lebron as well as being more of a 2 guard, Danny Green would possibly be the worst starter in the NBA and Gibson would be severely undersized at the 2. Eyenga is averaging under 4 points a game in Spain. Varejao would start over Sasha Kaun.

[plowking]

I hope he sign with the Chicago Bulls.

But then he won't be at Cleveland. The team you support? You do support Cleveland don't you?

Anyway, I'd be extremely happy if Riley can pull a trade with Chalmers, Beasley, Jones and Cook to get these two on board for the Heat.

[Funnyfuka]

Delonte would be perfect in LA, he basically does everything Fisher does but better and can even create a shot.



god...what a retarded statement. Delonte equaling Fisher? :confusedshrug: Id like some of what you re smoking.

[sixer6ad]

This isn't from me, but from THE MOST RELIABLE Cleveland writer - Brian Windhorst. He reported on Reghi yesterday two things:

- The Cavs have already talked with Toronto for a Bosh sign and trade
- Even stronger are the Golden State rumors about Ellis and Randolph; he told us Cavs fans to stay tuned to that one

Everything Dan Gilbert has touched in life has turned to gold, but I think he is walking dangerously close to Markgeorge Cubansteinbrenner. He's getting very involved in this off-season, and so far our coach and gm are gone. I am almost certain he is turning this thing over to LBJ, which makes me think LBJ is staying; however, this could get crazy.

My gut instinct is telling me that the Cavs are going to know and stick with their defensive principles but load up on offense - thus Ellis. I think they have had enough of the "character guys" and are looking to go cutthroat. He's from Detroit...we could be going bad boys and get away from this model franchise crap that has won us 0 titles. That's why D-West might stay and keep his motorcycle with him. If I had to bet, I would say Gilber will win a title as an owner in Cleveland. He's driven.

Dan Gilbert = Money
Money = Lebron James
Dan Gilbert = Lebron James
If A = B and B = C...

[Sarcastic]

Dan Gilbert = Money
Money = Lebron James
Dan Gilbert = Lebron James
If A = B and B = C...

Is this how they teach logic to the kids in Cleveland?

[niko]

This isn't from me, but from THE MOST RELIABLE Cleveland writer - Brian Windhorst. He reported on Reghi yesterday two things:

- The Cavs have already talked with Toronto for a Bosh sign and trade
- Even stronger are the Golden State rumors about Ellis and Randolph; he told us Cavs fans to stay tuned to that one

Everything Dan Gilbert has touched in life has turned to gold, but I think he is walking dangerously close to Markgeorge Cubansteinbrenner. He's getting very involved in this off-season, and so far our coach and gm are gone. I am almost certain he is turning this thing over to LBJ, which makes me think LBJ is staying; however, this could get crazy.

My gut instinct is telling me that the Cavs are going to know and stick with their defensive principles but load up on offense - thus Ellis. I think they have had enough of the "character guys" and are looking to go cutthroat. He's from Detroit...we could be going bad boys and get away from this model franchise crap that has won us 0 titles. That's why D-West might stay and keep his motorcycle with him. If I had to bet, I would say Gilber will win a title as an owner in Cleveland. He's driven.

Dan Gilbert = Money
Money = Lebron James
Dan Gilbert = Lebron James
If A = B and B = C...

NY = MONEY. If this is only about money, he's going to NY. PERIOD.

And explain to me how Bosh, who the Lakers want (and have better assets) who could go with Lebron to NY, could try to force a S&T to Chicago (not likely but more likely than Cleveland) would leave Toronto, this nice cosmopolitan city to go to Cleveland?

If A=BULL and B=SHIT than your point is A+B.

[niko]

BTW, is anyone shocked the Cavs are shopping their so-so players? The players who completely cracked in the postseason? Is this news? Who on that team aside from Lebron is not available?

[FCN]

BTW, is anyone shocked the Cavs are shopping their so-so players? The players who completely cracked in the postseason? Is this news? Who on that team aside from Lebron is not available?

Varejao

[niko]

BTW, the thought that the Cavs are going to convince Lebron to stay by bringing in some GS warriors is pretty funny. What, no more wizards were available?

[Bigsmoke]

hell. i think The Cavs should aim for someone like Chris Kaman or something. or bring in rip hamilton

[Meticode]

i like both players but whatever is best for the team, im in.

*Sorry if posted already*
I like West, but his mental issues make him a risk. In the 2008 season he was fantastic, last year not so much. Williams has been good the last two seasons, then when it comes to the playoffs he's pretty much been a no-show.

Obviously there needs to be a change.

[magnax1]

Definitely should keep Delonte and get rid of Mo. Delonte is an extremely under rated player, he makes smarter plays and is a waaay better defender Mo, and is only marginally worse of a scorer.

[Positive]

I like West, but his mental issues make him a risk. In the 2008 season he was fantastic, last year not so much. Williams has been good the last two seasons, then when it comes to the playoffs he's pretty much been a no-show.

Obviously there needs to be a change.

yeah delonte is getting overrated now. He was solid but that was before he lost his mind. I'm not really sure if he'll ever return to his form in 2008, the dudes got some serious problems that no one really knows the extent of.

[bdreason]

Delonte is a nutjob and on his way to prison. Nobody wants that guy.

[ProfessorMurder]

I'd like that. I wish he was still a Celtic. I'd like to see him play with Rondo off the bench.

Do you mean Rondo will come off the bench, or did you just f*ck the sentence up?

[Positive]

Delonte is a nutjob and on his way to prison. Nobody wants that guy.

I'm pretty sure someone will take him for a salary dump because if he is cut before a certain date only 500k of his 4.5 mil remaining is guaranteed.

[niko]

I like West, but his mental issues make him a risk. In the 2008 season he was fantastic, last year not so much. Williams has been good the last two seasons, then when it comes to the playoffs he's pretty much been a no-show.

Obviously there needs to be a change.

why, losing is fun and exciting.

[1~Gibson~1]

Delonte is a nutjob and on his way to prison. Nobody wants that guy.
he has a clause where if you waie him before August 5th you'll only have to pay him $500,000 of his contract instead of the 4.5 mil (or whatever) he's set to make for the season.

teams looking to cut payroll wouldnt mind trading for him

[1~Gibson~1]

I'd be surprised if this team made the playoffs/was anything better than an 8 seed. Sasha Kaun can't do anything offensively except score on dunks and put backs. Anthony Randolph is completely unproven, Ellis is a chucker and needs the ball almost as much as Lebron as well as being more of a 2 guard, Danny Green would possibly be the worst starter in the NBA and Gibson would be severely undersized at the 2. Eyenga is averaging under 4 points a game in Spain. Varejao would start over Sasha Kaun.
Anthony Parker would be the starting 2 guard, Varejao would start, Jamison would more than likely start....Lebron23 is a LeBron fanatic, not a Cavs one. he doesnt know much about the Cavaliers, just Lebron.

[SilkyJohnson]

I'd insert the following clause into West's contract, to guarantee his full commitment and dedication to the cause...

Article 2, Section 10 states; If you act like a schizo summabitch, you will forfeit the remainder of your salary and be court ordered to pay back any monies you may have received prior to any incident.

Article 2, Section 11 states; Mothers are off limits.

[Rashard]

I do think the Lakers will be looking to upgrade their backcourt this offseason no matter if they win or lose the championship. As a Lakers fan I wouldnt mind them targeting West. He's a prototypical Tri-point. That being said, I would hope the Lakers wouldnt give up anything of great value for him due to the baggage he does come with.

He's not the most stable of guys, that has been established and proven to be true. As far as the rumors about he and Lebron's Mom, as far as I know its just that, a rumor. You cant really hold that against him. If Farmar is dead set on leaving the Lakers they could look into a sign and trade possibility. If not that, I would hope the Lakers would offer no more than Sasha Vujacic for West.

Not a fan of Mo Williams, never was. He's an overly cocky and arrogant player who's never really accomplished anything in this league. Talks the talk but has never walked the walk.

[zORi]

Magic need hop on west

That could be good!!

I'm not so sure the owners and Otis would be so open to it, considering they usually only seem to go for high character guys. But maybe.

[The_Yearning]

That could be good!!

I'm not so sure the owners and Otis would be so open to it, considering they usually only seem to go for high character guys. But maybe.

Jameer for Mo Williams.

Magic don't need the likes of West.

[hotsizzle]

NY = MONEY. If this is only about money, he's going to NY. PERIOD.

And explain to me how Bosh, who the Lakers want (and have better assets) who could go with Lebron to NY, could try to force a S&T to Chicago (not likely but more likely than Cleveland) would leave Toronto, this nice cosmopolitan city to go to Cleveland?

If A=BULL and B=SHIT than your point is A+B.
:oldlol: :applause:

[MeLO MvP 15]

I doubt Bosh would want to go to Cleveland... think about it, Wade is a proven winner and he would get the luxury of living in Miami... Cavs fans are going to hate me for this but my predicted Cleveland starting roster on opening night is:
Williams-Parker- Moon- Jamison- Varajao.... ya I said it.... wouldn't be too surprised to see any of those guys dumped for worse players or short deals too

[Papaya Petee]

Delonte and Wade backcourt, make it happen Riley!! Best defensive backcourt in the NBA.

[GiveItToBurrito]

Jameer for Mo Williams.

Magic don't need the likes of West.

I still think Jameer is better than Mo, Jameer for Mo and Delonte, Moon, or Hickson would make more sense, especially if Orlando went and did another deal to upgrade the frontcourt, maybe Gortat and Bass for Boozer in a sign and trade or something.

[cavsfanatic]

Some Cavs fans think we can get Chris Paul Lmfao. Idk why some Cavs fans think we can get Paul or bosh. I'd take monta in a heartbeat though if lebron stays or goes

[GiveItToBurrito]

Some Cavs fans think we can get Chris Paul Lmfao. Idk why some Cavs fans think we can get Paul or bosh. I'd take monta in a heartbeat though if lebron stays or goes

Damn, that's crazy. They would be better off targeting Collison, he's younger and more available. The rebuilding effort won't be that bad due to all of the expirers you guys have. You should probably try to keep Varejao and Hickson, trade everyone else for draft picks and cap relief.

[RedBlackAttack]

Some Cavs fans think we can get Chris Paul Lmfao. Idk why some Cavs fans think we can get Paul or bosh. I'd take monta in a heartbeat though if lebron stays or goes
Don't want anything to do with Monta. He is a volume shooter and a low percentage scorer. Plus, he is a liability defensively.

Agree with you about CP3, though. The radio airwaves in Cleveland are burning up with calls about the Cavs getting Paul. Why would the Hornets even entertain such an idea and, further, if they were going to trade him, there are a lot of teams out there that have a lot more to offer than us.

Come on, Cleveland. Get your head out of your @ss.

[niko]

Don't want anything to do with Monta. He is a volume shooter and a low percentage scorer. Plus, he is a liability defensively.

Agree with you about CP3, though. The radio airwaves in Cleveland are burning up with calls about the Cavs getting Paul. Why would the Hornets even entertain such an idea and, further, if they were going to trade him, there are a lot of teams out there that have a lot more to offer than us.

Come on, Cleveland. Get your head out of your @ss.
for curiosity's sake, what are you trading for CP3?

[RedBlackAttack]

for curiosity's sake, what are you trading for CP3?
Expirers... JJ... The usual.

[MeLO MvP 15]

I could see Mo or Delonte being a good fit in Memphis... idk what they could give Cleveland...

[1~Gibson~1]

I could see Mo or Delonte being a good fit in Memphis... idk what they could give Cleveland...
Memphis did say that they wanted to draft a PG. Mo or Delonte could be that guy =)

and in return we can get Sam Young, Thabeet, Ronnie Brewer, ........ Rudy Gay

[ODEN>DURANT]

How old is Mo? I wouldn't mind him at Portland. Great shooter.

[1~Gibson~1]

How old is Mo? I wouldn't mind him at Portland. Great shooter.Hes 27

many people forget that he was in the same draft class as LeBron/Bosh/Wade etc

[cavsfanatic]

Damn, that's crazy. They would be better off targeting Collison, he's younger and more available. The rebuilding effort won't be that bad due to all of the expirers you guys have. You should probably try to keep Varejao and Hickson, trade everyone else for draft picks and cap relief.
Cavs fans think cuz new Orleans broke they would trade the only player makin the team money. It'll be interesting to see what we do

[cavsfanatic]

Don't want anything to do with Monta. He is a volume shooter and a low percentage scorer. Plus, he is a liability defensively.

Agree with you about CP3, though. The radio airwaves in Cleveland are burning up with calls about the Cavs getting Paul. Why would the Hornets even entertain such an idea and, further, if they were going to trade him, there are a lot of teams out there that have a lot more to offer than us.

Come on, Cleveland. Get your head out of your @ss.
Yea I jus looked at monta stats. He shoot way too much for us if bron stay. That may be attributed to how the warriors played but cant take risk. I wanna call the radio station and tell em what idiots they are but don't wanna waste time.

[niko]

misread..deleted..

[zORi]

Jameer for Mo Williams.

Magic don't need the likes of West.

**** no. No offense.

Jameer is a co-captain and a core part of the team. Plus, he's pretty much the closest thing we have to a go-to guy down the stretch (no way in hell I would want it in Carter's hands).

If Mo could carry his regular season performances into the playoffs, maybe, but I'd probably still think no.

[Button]

I think the greatest punishment for those two losers is to actually have Lebron go to another team and just have those two losers stay with the Cavs on a failing franchise once again. Maybe sign a guy like Larry Hughes and/or Ricky Davis and/or Eddie House as well just to make it more frustating.

i would love to see ricky davis back in nba tbh

[1~Gibson~1]

Hopefully we can get Corey Maggette and stick him in at 2-guard

[Rowe]

Hopefully we can get Corey Maggette and stick him in at 2-guard
You really want Maggette at SG? He was playing a lot at PF this season with Golden State. Hes too slow right now to be a SG, maybe 10 years ago but not now.

[1~Gibson~1]

didnt know he was aging...

UPDATED THE OP!


-- If the Cavs decide to trade Mo Williams, one possible destination could be Toronto in exchange for Jose Calderon. Williams is a more dynamic scorer and Calderon is more of a distributor. Both are great free-throw shooters, but neither player is a good defender.

Their contracts are similar in amount and length. The Raptors would like to move Calderon and swingman Hedo Turkoglu.

-- Guard Delonte West doesn't appear to be in the team's plans for next year. He's in the last year of his contract and is expected to be traded.

[cavsfanatic]

You really want Maggette at SG? He was playing a lot at PF this season with Golden State. Hes too slow right now to be a SG, maybe 10 years ago but not now.
Plus he Cant shoot lol.

[ReturnofJPR]

Does anyone really want these players besides the T-Wolves and Nets? Both guys are horribly overrated and virtual crap. Take away Bron...forget about it!

[cavsfanatic]

didnt know he was aging...

UPDATED THE OP!
Don't want calderon. F turk also cuz he a quitter.

[InspiredLebowski]

It's probably been mentioned but Delonte's got a lot of value just because of his contract. I think he's on the books for about $4.5mm but only $500k's guaranteed. So you can save $4mm (8 if you're in the lux tax) just by cutting him.

[HylianNightmare]

delonte could also spell some PG for the magic when jameer sits, then we don't have to have vince bringing the ball up the court all the time

[HylianNightmare]

Don't want calderon. F turk also cuz he a quitter.


i don't know what the cavs would have to give up to get turk
but some sort of combination of
mo williams
hedo
antawn
would get some sort of offense going, no doubt

[ReturnofJPR]

delonte could also spell some PG for the magic when jameer sits, then we don't have to have vince bringing the ball up the court all the time

You're kidding, right?

Jason Williams >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Herpes West

[HylianNightmare]

You're kidding, right?

Jason Williams >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Herpes West


there is no guarantee that jason is coming back, he's prolly going to want more than the magic can afford if they want to keep redick and barnes

[ReturnofJPR]

there is no guarantee that jason is coming back, he's prolly going to want more than the magic can afford if they want to keep redick and barnes

It would be a major downgrade for an already unproven and suspect Magic team. West was below average WITH LEBRON...think about that.

[1~Gibson~1]

i don't know what the cavs would have to give up to get turk
but some sort of combination of
mo williams
hedo
antawn
would get some sort of offense going, no doubti dont mind losing Mo. i unlike most i actually like the guy. he just doesnt perform in the playoffs.

and i only wanted Jamison because of his cheap price tag. he's expandable and i'd much rather have Hedo over him. our PF position is good already anyway.

Don't want calderon. F turk also cuz he a quitter.
stop being picky and be realistic. if you think we're gonna go out and get a guy like Danny Granner via a trade then you're crazy. For Mo and Jamison, Calderon and Hedo are good enough for me.

Calderon > Mo and Calderon is a REAL Pass-First PG and we could use another playmaker on the wing like Hedo.

if LeBron stays we'd slide LeBron over to the 2 and create all sorts of mis-matches and if he leaves then Hedo would be our go-to guy in the 4th.

[HylianNightmare]

It would be a major downgrade for an already unproven and suspect Magic team. West was below average WITH LEBRON...think about that.


yeah i'd love to have jwill back but not if he is asking too much, because i like what barnes brings to the table much more.

and i'd rather keep jj around since he is young and coming into his own as of late

[ReturnofJPR]

yeah i'd love to have jwill back but not if he is asking too much, because i like what barnes brings to the table much more.

and i'd rather keep jj around since he is young and coming into his own as of late


JJ is going to get mad cash from a team like the Bulls who need a 3 point shooter for Tom Thibodeau's drive and kick game which relies on Derrick Rose driving the paint and kicking it out to a guy like JJ Redick, Ray Allen, Mike Miller, Anthony Morrow, ect.

[BallPhunk]

It's going to be fun seeing how this "all star" does without LBJ pimping for him.

Mo doesn't even sniff the all star ballot next year... :no:

[VishaltotheG]

As the Nets owner would say, "Mo Veeliam and Delontay Veass to teh Nehtz for DaVeen Harhis"

[HylianNightmare]

JJ is going to get mad cash from a team like the Bulls who need a 3 point shooter for Tom Thibodeau's drive and kick game which relies on Derrick Rose driving the paint and kicking it out to a guy like JJ Redick, Ray Allen, Mike Miller, Anthony Morrow, ect.


that would break my heart after all the shitty years jj has given us:roll:

[SprtsTmeMachine]

they need to try something new... those 2 are nice players but its clear they cant get it done in the playoffs. hopefully they can bring in some real talent instead of just giving them away

[The_Yearning]

that would break my heart after all the shitty years jj has given us:roll:

JJ = Joe Johnson.

[BallsOut]

The Cavs should bring in Maggette if they lose Lebron. They'll at least have a poor man's Lebron. Then just give him a #23 jersey and it'll be like he never left you guys.

[1~Gibson~1]

they need to try something new... those 2 are nice players but its clear they cant get it done in the playoffs. hopefully they can bring in some real talent instead of just giving them away
Dan is gonna do everything in his power to bring LeBron back so that probably means MAJOR trades this off-season.

As a Cavs fan im honestly not worried :pimp:

[cavsfanatic]

stop being picky and be realistic. if you think we're gonna go out and get a guy like Danny Granner via a trade then you're crazy. For Mo and Jamison, Calderon and Hedo are good enough for me.

Calderon > Mo and Calderon is a REAL Pass-First PG and we could use another playmaker on the wing like Hedo.

if LeBron stays we'd slide LeBron over to the 2 and create all sorts of mis-matches and if he leaves then Hedo would be our go-to guy in the 4th.
nah i'm not being picky and i aint like them fools who think our decent players gone get us superstars lol. I'm saying i dont want turk because his priorites aren't winning. He picked toronto over portland because his wife wanted to be closer to home? that is terrible and he quit this year and got drunk after missing a game. Calderon is coo but i like mo better because he can shoot.. As long as we have lebron we dont need a passing pg because lebron holds the ball too much. If we get a real coach who runs a real offense then jose would be cool.

[Jasper]

Looking thru the posts , I didn't see any reference to this :

If West gets traded , does Lebrons Mom leave to :confusedshrug:

If Mo gets traded ... not sure who would want him , maybe off the bench 10 minute guy -- - -> does this mean the Cav's will look to get a true play maker :eek:

[cavsfanatic]

Looking thru the posts , I didn't see any reference to this :

If West gets traded , does Lebrons Mom leave to :confusedshrug:

If Mo gets traded ... not sure who would want him , maybe off the bench 10 minute guy -- - -> does this mean the Cav's will look to get a true play maker :eek:
Be serious clown. Mo is a good player who averaged 17-7 before he even got to the Cavs. Up yo bball knowledge

[artex]

I would LMAO if the Lakers acquires Darren Collison from the New Orleans Hornets.

We would love to have him back in LA!!

[HylianNightmare]

JJ = Joe Johnson.


the magic have this one player...named JJ redick, check him out sometime

[jbryan1984]

Yeah the more I think about it, I am not worried either. Its still a possibility but I think LBJ is staying. You really can't take anything from that Larry King interview without a grain of salt but it did make me think about some things. The guy loves this place, his family is here. He said he would do what is best for his family. Money is nothing to him as he makes much more off his endorsements anyway. He just wants a championship and Dan Gilbert is a different kind of owner. He is not going to be like the guy who owned the Bulls in 1999 and just throw in the towel. He is going to have a good team. This Cavs team that has grown the last 3 years and has run its course. Mo, West, Jamison and guys like that who flopped in the playoffs need to say goodbye. I thought Shaq played pretty good in the Boston series. I would welcome him back, just not for 20 million again ha! I love the rumors of Ellis and Bosh. It would also be nice to have a solid 2 guard and have Parker off the bench. Someone like Ray Allen perhaps? Look at this......
Ellis, Allen, James, Hickson, Bosh
Gibson, Parker, Moon, Powe, Varejao
Kaun, Green

[niko]

Yeah the more I think about it, I am not worried either. Its still a possibility but I think LBJ is staying. You really can't take anything from that Larry King interview without a grain of salt but it did make me think about some things. The guy loves this place, his family is here. He said he would do what is best for his family. Money is nothing to him as he makes much more off his endorsements anyway. He just wants a championship and Dan Gilbert is a different kind of owner. He is not going to be like the guy who owned the Bulls in 1999 and just throw in the towel. He is going to have a good team. This Cavs team that has grown the last 3 years and has run its course. Mo, West, Jamison and guys like that who flopped in the playoffs need to say goodbye. I thought Shaq played pretty good in the Boston series. I would welcome him back, just not for 20 million again ha! I love the rumors of Ellis and Bosh. It would also be nice to have a solid 2 guard and have Parker off the bench. Someone like Ray Allen perhaps? Look at this......
Ellis, Allen, James, Hickson, Bosh
Gibson, Parker, Moon, Powe, Varejao
Kaun, Green

How the **** are you getting Ellis, Bosh and Allen?

[HylianNightmare]

umm i'm not sure ray allen is going to just walk away from boston after this season, they are proving they still have a couple more years left in the tank.

and ellis would be a great fit because he can just focus on chucking and making lebron become more of a facilitator

bosh would be great too, it would give lebron a legit inside presence
so you have ellis shooting outside and bosh inside meanwhile lebron is doing his god thing everywhere else

but how are you going to get them?

[cavsfanatic]

How the **** are you getting Ellis, Bosh and Allen?
We not. The rumors of gettin bosh are dumb. I told you some Cavs fans need drug test

[The_Yearning]

the magic have this one player...named JJ redick, check him out sometime

The post that you quoted the "JJ" he was referring to was Joe Johnson. I don't think JJ REDDICK is gonna be getting "MAD CASH"

[Samurai Swoosh]

JJ Redick has been a BEAST of a player since last year's NBA Finals.