Beasley: "It isn't fun anymore"

[InspiredLebowski]

http://cjonline.com/sports/basketball/2010-06-19/column_pullen_awaits_senior_year_sendoff


But Jacob Pullen also drew on experience when deciding whether to submit his name for the NBA draft and leave Kansas State with a year of eligibility remaining.

"I talked to Mike," Pullen said, referring to his former classmate, Michael Beasley. "The two weeks right before the draft deadline, Mike spent out in Kansas. We talked and he said if he could re-do everything, he'd have stayed all four years."

Beasley, of course, left after his freshman season when he was an All-American for K-State. He was picked No. 2 overall by Miami. His first two years with the Heat were marked by inconsistent, and seemingly uninterested, stretches on the court. Off the court, personal troubles prompted Beasley to enter a rehabilitation facility last summer.

"He said to think about it and not just worry about the money," added Pullen, who spent a day last week in Lee Arena helping at the Bob Chipman Basketball Camp. "Think about the experiences you want to be part of, because once you make that decision it's your life. It's a job. It's not fun anymore."

[GOBB]

Its not fun you cant just overpower college kids anymore because there are grown men, better players than you in a league you dreamed of playing in. Its not fun anymore because you have struggled two years and cant figure out what to do to live up to the hype and expectations placed on you as the #2 overall pick. Its fun to Wade. Its fun to Durant. Its fun to Rose. All you have to worry about as an NBA player is? Playing basketball. Nothing else. For 365 days a year you worry about playing basketball and in doing so figuring out ways to get better at it. Oh and you get paid millions to play a game you love and figure out how to be the best you can be.

Cry me a river Beasley.

[keep-itreal]

Its not fun you cant just overpower college kids anymore because there are grown men, better players than you in a league you dreamed of playing in. Its not fun anymore because you have struggled two years and cant figure out what to do to live up to the hype and expectations placed on you as the #2 overall pick. Its fun to Wade. Its fun to Durant. Its fun to Rose. All you have to worry about as an NBA player is? Playing basketball. Nothing else. For 365 days a year you worry about playing basketball and in doing so figuring out ways to get better at it. Oh and you get paid millions to play a game you love and figure out how to be the best you can be.

Cry me a river Beasley.
:applause:

:oldlol: roasted

[bhallic24]

Its not fun you cant just overpower college kids anymore because there are grown men, better players than you in a league you dreamed of playing in. Its not fun anymore because you have struggled two years and cant figure out what to do to live up to the hype and expectations placed on you as the #2 overall pick. Its fun to Wade. Its fun to Durant. Its fun to Rose. All you have to worry about as an NBA player is? Playing basketball. Nothing else. For 365 days a year you worry about playing basketball and in doing so figuring out ways to get better at it. Oh and you get paid millions to play a game you love and figure out how to be the best you can be.

Cry me a river Beasley.

yea that was the sorriest statement ever. Theres tons of folks that'll take that job in a heartbeat.

[dak121]

Beasley is talented, but a knucklehead.

Now I can see why his current trade value is dogpoop. I blast Paxson a lot but thank god he drafted Rose ahead of this idiot.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Its not fun you cant just overpower college kids anymore because there are grown men, better players than you in a league you dreamed of playing in. Its not fun anymore because you have struggled two years and cant figure out what to do to live up to the hype and expectations placed on you as the #2 overall pick. Its fun to Wade. Its fun to Durant. Its fun to Rose. All you have to worry about as an NBA player is? Playing basketball. Nothing else. For 365 days a year you worry about playing basketball and in doing so figuring out ways to get better at it. Oh and you get paid millions to play a game you love and figure out how to be the best you can be.

Cry me a river Beasley.
It's not like he's crying to the public, he's advising a friend and brought him a valid perspective. Sure, to you or me NBA player=Dream job but Beasley isn't the first pro athlete to say he had more fun in college. There's really nothing wrong with Beasley admitting to making the wrong decision to a friend of his in order to help that friend make the right one.

Now, does he need to improve his attitude and work habits? Undoubtedly yes.

[Shax]

When you suck at something of course it isn't fun.

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

Good God. And that is why guys like Dirk/Kobe/Duncan/ should be given a lot more respect than they are given. Dirk pretty much pulled himself up by his bootstraps. He couldn't do jack when he was 18 years oold. But wiuth the help of Holger he has become a top 50 player all time through hard work. And he loves playing the game. In fact, he pretty much spends every day in the gym. As big of a gymrat as anyone in the NBA. Kobe was given a lot at an early age, but he still worked himself into a top 10-15 player all time because of his work ethic. He has such determination to prove people wrong. And he is a huge gymrat. Duncan didn't pick up a basketball until he was in his teens. And he worked on his game til he became the greatest PF of all time.

There are others but I'll stop there....

Beasley has the potential to be a great player. But he has to have the drive. And it looks like he has a lot of "quit" in him.

[Yung D-Will]

This sounds like exactly what happen when Jeremy Tyler went to play in Isreal out of high school

[Real Men Wear Green]

This sounds like exactly what happen when Jeremy Tyler went to play in Isreal out of high school
Tyler is much worse...really, it's not even comparable. Beasley has yet to take any complaints public and while his effort is questionable he hasn't abandoned the Heat, his team.

[Rowe]

This sounds like exactly what happen when Jeremy Tyler went to play in Isreal out of high school
2 spoiled basketball prodigy's who went to the real world and realized its much harder than just putting the ball in the net.

Tyler screwed up his life though, Beasley hasn't really screwed himself to the level where he will have to go to the NBDL in order to get to the NBA.

[ZeN]

Its not fun you cant just overpower college kids anymore because there are grown men, better players than you in a league you dreamed of playing in. Its not fun anymore because you have struggled two years and cant figure out what to do to live up to the hype and expectations placed on you as the #2 overall pick. Its fun to Wade. Its fun to Durant. Its fun to Rose. All you have to worry about as an NBA player is? Playing basketball. Nothing else. For 365 days a year you worry about playing basketball and in doing so figuring out ways to get better at it. Oh and you get paid millions to play a game you love and figure out how to be the best you can be.

Cry me a river Beasley.


Classic God of BasketBall..

[Rowe]

Its not fun you cant just overpower college kids anymore because there are grown men, better players than you in a league you dreamed of playing in. Its not fun anymore because you have struggled two years and cant figure out what to do to live up to the hype and expectations placed on you as the #2 overall pick. Its fun to Wade. Its fun to Durant. Its fun to Rose. All you have to worry about as an NBA player is? Playing basketball. Nothing else. For 365 days a year you worry about playing basketball and in doing so figuring out ways to get better at it. Oh and you get paid millions to play a game you love and figure out how to be the best you can be.

Cry me a river Beasley.
:applause: :applause:

I pictured Beasley saying that in a sad tone.

[mamba24]

This is the guy Onceinadecade supports and hes on other threads bashing kobe...lol get your priorities right....take care of your boy beasley...get him some pills, estrogen tablets, something to help him get his periods or whatever...lol


Go bash kobe and Beasley is falling apart...lol talk about having and opinion on one of the best to play the game and support a guy whose mentally unstable...lol says alot about a poster.

[john_d]

This is the guy Onceinadecade supports and hes on other threads bashing kobe...lol get your priorities right....take care of your boy beasley...get him some pills, estrogen tablets, something to help him get his periods or whatever...lol


Go bash kobe and Beasley is falling apart...lol talk about having and opinion on one of the best to play the game and support a guy whose mentally unstable...lol says alot about a poster.
he is not a beasly fan. he is a Lebron fan disguised as a Beasly fan, so when he post he would look impartial.

99.99% of his post is about kobe and lebron.

Beasly has no heart.

[iamgine]

I suspect playing basketball gets boring if you do it too often. Especially in a very serious setting like the NBA.

[leopoldstotch]

what a waste of talent.

this is why when the question was brought up who is better jj hickson or michael beasley, i easily chose hickson. though hickson's offensive game looks limited at the moment, i see a lot more potential in hickson's upside, and i think his work ethic is a lot better than beasley's.

i feel everyone in the NBA has just about or better than a high certain amount of gifted talent. it's all about the work ethic, and sticking it out through thick and thin.

[Posterize246]

Love me some Jacob Pullen. GOAT beard.

[Steve212]

Ehh, no big deal. MB is being real. The NBA is more a job than a game.

[Derka]

Its not fun you cant just overpower college kids anymore because there are grown men, better players than you in a league you dreamed of playing in. Its not fun anymore because you have struggled two years and cant figure out what to do to live up to the hype and expectations placed on you as the #2 overall pick. Its fun to Wade. Its fun to Durant. Its fun to Rose. All you have to worry about as an NBA player is? Playing basketball. Nothing else. For 365 days a year you worry about playing basketball and in doing so figuring out ways to get better at it. Oh and you get paid millions to play a game you love and figure out how to be the best you can be.

Cry me a river Beasley.

Preach the f*ck on, sir.

[Jailblazers7]

He should try working a 9-5 for a year and see how much fun basketball is.

[MeLO MvP 15]

He'd probably do a lot better, if he was in a system that allowed to maximize his talents... then he would have "fun" and would be a lot better... I'm thinking teams like the Suns, Warriors, Knicks and maybe Nuggets... I think Spoelstra and the Heat just aren't a good fit for him..

[artificial]

1. Would Pullen get drafted had he entered the draft? Doesn't he have to stay 4 years at school anyways, in order to get a shot to be drafted? (I might be wrong here, correct me if so).

2. It wasn't a public statement: sucks if you get bashed for an advise you privately gave to someone. Still, this does tells you about Beasley's character.

3. Maybe "fun" is the problem with Beasley. Maybe he should have fun in the court and then his game would improve. Maybe not. But it's sure worth a shot.

[The_Yearning]

I think both Chalmers and Beasley would do better on a different team and structure. I can only imagine playing on the same team as a Prima Donna who thinks he is top 2 in the league.

[jbot]

making millions of $$$$ playing a game isn't fun?:rant i'm now going to stop defending Beasley. he is a dumbass.

[Clocian-IGN]

lol so glad the bulls drafted rose instead of this bum.

[leopoldstotch]

Its not fun you cant just overpower college kids anymore because there are grown men, better players than you in a league you dreamed of playing in. Its not fun anymore because you have struggled two years and cant figure out what to do to live up to the hype and expectations placed on you as the #2 overall pick. Its fun to Wade. Its fun to Durant. Its fun to Rose. All you have to worry about as an NBA player is? Playing basketball. Nothing else. For 365 days a year you worry about playing basketball and in doing so figuring out ways to get better at it. Oh and you get paid millions to play a game you love and figure out how to be the best you can be.

Cry me a river Beasley.

just to continue on to a good post here.

of course it's a job. it's a professional job, and he's paid to use his talents. He's paid to play basketball, because he has been given special talents to do what he does. just like us being a lawyer, technican, developer, manager, secretary, representative, cashier, etc .. does a lawyer ***** and cry if he's told he needs to work 16 hours a day to prep for a high profile case? does a project manager ***** and cry if he has to go through multiple microsoft project files to decide the future outlook? does a willing person in a marketing person ***** and moan about pitching and going through speels minute after minute and making phone calls to pitch ideas to potential clients? does a stock broker ***** and complain when he is in a slump, loses 5-6 digits in the market in a stretch of days? sure we can complain the job sucks, but hell we still do it. grow up Michael.

[Toizumi]

"Think about the experiences you want to be part of, because once you make that decision it's your life. It's a job. It's not just fun anymore."

add that one little word and it's a whole different sentence. makes more sense like that too. Everybody knows about Beasley's (sometimes sorry) work ethic etc., but this quote might have been taken out of context..
I'm not a Beasley fan btw.

[PaperClip]

Where are his defenders now? I recall plowking, Dresta, and others thought he was practically the next coming of God, when in fact all he's turned out to be as a drug-addicted, lazy, undersized, and heartless player. :oldlol:

[OnceInADECADE]

What did I miss? What Beasley says it isnt fun anymore!! It was like this his whole NBA career! Dude just wasnt given a team like Derrick, Kevin, Carmelo and Lebron or even Blake Griffin. Dude is upset cuz the coach and how he treated him during his two years in the league. Dude cant even get PT and he is talented!! WTF IS THAT POSSIBLE!! You guys can hate all you want but Beasley is talent! Any other coach would give him PT. But not coach Spo cause he doesnt play young players he is a vetern type of coach.

/thread

Beasley IS THE MANhttp://rodonline.typepad.com/rodonline/images/2008/04/30/2008_04_30_beasley_2.jpg

[Bosnian Sajo]

I suspect playing basketball gets boring if you do it too often. Especially in a very serious setting like the NBA.


So you would rather go have an actual job and make 100x less than play basketball for a living and get paid millions?

Playing bball too much gets boring, I would much rather bust my ass off working...

[plowking]

This whole thread is filled with some of the most retarded posts I've ever seen outside the OP.

I swear to god, Beasley can't do anything right with some of you. If a young player like Rose, Gordon or Evans said "I love basketball", everyone would be like this is why we chose this guy, just loves the game, hard worker, you can see he cares, etc, etc....

Where as for Beasley it'll be:

"OMG, this guy is only 20, does he know what love is? He's stupid"

"Yeah, you also love weed, don't you, you dirty junkster"

"omg bro, how could he say that when he doesn't have a work ethic"

It's hilarious just to watch the same formula unfold every Beasley thread, and it's always the same retards posting, despite never having watched him bar a few games.

[HiphopRelated]

This whole thread is filled with some of the most retarded posts I've ever seen outside the OP.

I swear to god, Beasley can't do anything right with some of you. If a young player like Rose, Gordon or Evans said "I love basketball", everyone would be like this is why we chose this guy, just loves the game, hard worker, you can see he cares, etc, etc....

Where as for Beasley it'll be:

"OMG, this guy is only 20, does he know what love is? He's stupid"

"Yeah, you also love weed, don't you, you dirty junkster"

"omg bro, how could he say that when he doesn't have a work ethic"

It's hilarious just to watch the same formula unfold every Beasley thread, and it's always the same retards posting, despite never having watched him bar a few games.
lol

Pullen is an idiot though, things are said privately.

[Solid Snake]

Then his hoe ass needs to retire then and STFU. No one one gives a shit about this millionaire crying about petty, inconsequential issues.

[The_Yearning]

This whole thread is filled with some of the most retarded posts I've ever seen outside the OP.

I swear to god, Beasley can't do anything right with some of you. If a young player like Rose, Gordon or Evans said "I love basketball", everyone would be like this is why we chose this guy, just loves the game, hard worker, you can see he cares, etc, etc....

Where as for Beasley it'll be:

"OMG, this guy is only 20, does he know what love is? He's stupid"

"Yeah, you also love weed, don't you, you dirty junkster"

"omg bro, how could he say that when he doesn't have a work ethic"

It's hilarious just to watch the same formula unfold every Beasley thread, and it's always the same retards posting, despite never having watched him bar a few games.

I've watched him. Dude gets more exposure then Jennings, Westbrook, Rose, Evans, and OJ Mayo.

Dude just flat out sucks.

[Batz]

This whole thread is filled with some of the most retarded posts I've ever seen outside the OP.

I swear to god, Beasley can't do anything right with some of you. If a young player like Rose, Gordon or Evans said "I love basketball", everyone would be like this is why we chose this guy, just loves the game, hard worker, you can see he cares, etc, etc....

Where as for Beasley it'll be:

"OMG, this guy is only 20, does he know what love is? He's stupid"

"Yeah, you also love weed, don't you, you dirty junkster"

"omg bro, how could he say that when he doesn't have a work ethic"

It's hilarious just to watch the same formula unfold every Beasley thread, and it's always the same retards posting, despite never having watched him bar a few games.
The dude just sucks. He plays with no heart and no effort. Just a overhyped bust.

[Funnyfuka]

Its not fun you cant just overpower college kids anymore because there are grown men, better players than you in a league you dreamed of playing in. Its not fun anymore because you have struggled two years and cant figure out what to do to live up to the hype and expectations placed on you as the #2 overall pick. Its fun to Wade. Its fun to Durant. Its fun to Rose. All you have to worry about as an NBA player is? Playing basketball. Nothing else. For 365 days a year you worry about playing basketball and in doing so figuring out ways to get better at it. Oh and you get paid millions to play a game you love and figure out how to be the best you can be.

Cry me a river Beasley.


/end of thread.

[nevetslc88]

Beasley is talented, but a knucklehead.

Now I can see why his current trade value is dogpoop. I blast Paxson a lot but thank god he drafted Rose ahead of this idiot.

Knucklehead is not the right word for him. I'd say he's just ****ing stupid.


Its not fun you cant just overpower college kids anymore because there are grown men, better players than you in a league you dreamed of playing in. Its not fun anymore because you have struggled two years and cant figure out what to do to live up to the hype and expectations placed on you as the #2 overall pick. Its fun to Wade. Its fun to Durant. Its fun to Rose. All you have to worry about as an NBA player is? Playing basketball. Nothing else. For 365 days a year you worry about playing basketball and in doing so figuring out ways to get better at it. Oh and you get paid millions to play a game you love and figure out how to be the best you can be.

Cry me a river Beasley.

Yeah i agree /end thread

[G-train]

Its not fun you cant just overpower college kids anymore because there are grown men, better players than you in a league you dreamed of playing in. Its not fun anymore because you have struggled two years and cant figure out what to do to live up to the hype and expectations placed on you as the #2 overall pick. Its fun to Wade. Its fun to Durant. Its fun to Rose. All you have to worry about as an NBA player is? Playing basketball. Nothing else. For 365 days a year you worry about playing basketball and in doing so figuring out ways to get better at it. Oh and you get paid millions to play a game you love and figure out how to be the best you can be.

Cry me a river Beasley.

:rolleyes:

Obviously Beasley is just saying to his friend to just enjoy the college lifestyle before committing to the pressures/lifestyle of pro ball.

[G-train]

Vast majority of posters in this thread have seen Beasley play maybe 5 games and have no understanding of his role/situation.

[niko]

It's ok to complain like this once, or twice. But someone who is having such a problem living up to his potential shouldn't have multiple moments like this. Especially a year after twittering things that sounded like (no joke) someone who was suicidal. So now, it's no fun. I'm sure the Heat are thrilled to hear this, because when you have a problematic player who is not living up to his potential, you want to hear him whining how life JUST ISNT FUN.

NO ONE ****ING CARES. If you flip burgers and say this, no one cares. If he improves his game, life will look much better.

[Tito Beasley]

Its not fun you cant just overpower college kids anymore because there are grown men, better players than you in a league you dreamed of playing in. Its not fun anymore because you have struggled two years and cant figure out what to do to live up to the hype and expectations placed on you as the #2 overall pick. Its fun to Wade. Its fun to Durant. Its fun to Rose. All you have to worry about as an NBA player is? Playing basketball. Nothing else. For 365 days a year you worry about playing basketball and in doing so figuring out ways to get better at it. Oh and you get paid millions to play a game you love and figure out how to be the best you can be.

Cry me a river Beasley.


As usual, you are dumb.

It's not as if this is some 29 year old guy saying this. Beasley is 22 years old. Very few 22 year olds these days have nearly the amount of responsibility that comes with being an NBA player. Either you're in college, playing video games in a frat house when you dont have classes, or you have a regular job with set hours that doesn't really require much.

Beasley has to constantly be flying from place to place, has to go to practices, meetings, community events, has to have his every move scrutinized by literally millions of people. Like I said, for a grown man you'd say "hey, that's a job buddy." But at 22, most people are still "kids." It's a lot to deal with at that age.

It's a tough situation a lot of these kids are in when deciding whether to come out. You are basically ending your youth while your peers get to continue theirs. And even if they feel inclined to stay, the pressure might be too great to go. Some kids who stay, like the Matt Leinarts and Tyler Hansboroughs, may have a background that will allow them to be equipped and earn a comfortable living in the professional world if the worst were to happen. Others like Bealsey really can't afford risking an injury before signing that contract. What's Beasley gonna do if he can't play ball, work as a systems analyst? I don't think so. He had no choice but to go. That's life and he's gotta accept it, but it's not hard to understand how it can be both a blessing and a curse.

I'm not sayin Beasley is a sympathetic figure overall, and clearly in general he is a clown. But in general with regards to people coming out early, its not nearly as simple as "omgz dude you get to play ball and make money, put on ur happy face!"

[OnceInADECADE]

Michael needs to get traded or fire coach Spo

[GOBB]

Vast majority of posters in this thread have seen Beasley play maybe 5 games and have no understanding of his role/situation.

Yeah thats it. Can I ask for the source where the majority here only have seen Beasley play 5 games? Rumors has it that the source may be your ass. But I'll let you tell it. :rolleyes:

[GOBB]

As usual, you are dumb.

And as usual life lessons on the real world from a kid who still nurses on mom's tit and rides dad back. But hey you're just a kid tho right? Does it occur to you that you milk that excuse year after year.

[niko]

As usual, you are dumb.

It's not as if this is some 29 year old guy saying this. Beasley is 22 years old. Very few 22 year olds these days have nearly the amount of responsibility that comes with being an NBA player. Either you're in college, playing video games in a frat house when you dont have classes, or you have a regular job with set hours that doesn't really require much.

Beasley has to constantly be flying from place to place, has to go to practices, meetings, community events, has to have his every move scrutinized by literally millions of people. Like I said, for a grown man you'd say "hey, that's a job buddy." But at 22, most people are still "kids." It's a lot to deal with at that age.

It's a tough situation a lot of these kids are in when deciding whether to come out. You are basically ending your youth while your peers get to continue theirs. And even if they feel inclined to stay, the pressure might be too great to go. Some kids who stay, like the Matt Leinarts and Tyler Hansboroughs, may have a background that will allow them to be equipped and earn a comfortable living in the professional world if the worst were to happen. Others like Bealsey really can't afford risking an injury before signing that contract. What's Beasley gonna do if he can't play ball, work as a systems analyst? I don't think so. He had no choice but to go. That's life and he's gotta accept it, but it's not hard to understand how it can be both a blessing and a curse.

I'm not sayin Beasley is a sympathetic figure overall, and clearly in general he is a clown. But in general with regards to people coming out early, its not nearly as simple as "omgz dude you get to play ball and make money, put on ur happy face!"

He was embarrassed before for sending things out on twitter. It's ok he is not happy. It's NOT ok he verbalizes it publicly. It basically shows that whatever lessons he is being give, NOTHING is sticking. You say he's a clown, that's not ok. He needs to work on that. Exactly how long is it ok to be a clown? 3yrs? 4yrs?

I used to teach, and i'd lecture 16 yr old girls on how there lives are not that bad, and they need to get over themselves as everyone has problems. The more i hear Beasley, the more it reminds me of that.

Can you imagine being the Heat and he says this? Someone they invest millions of dollars in? Someone they hope is a cornerstone in a team they plan to attract A list players to this summer?

People want to defend this to the death but I don't get it. Maybe he's actually a good guy. I don't know. But if you base it from what you get from him publicly, and his body language on the court (which ranges from ok to absolutely awful) he's a total ****ing clown. And that is NOT positive.

[kumquat]

\

Beasly has no heart.

....and no brain...."Tito" I don't think we're in Kansas any more.

[Burgz]

sometimes its not the player but the people the player is surrounded with

Beasley needs to go back to the basics, he needs to lock himself in the gym this summer and stay there

no partying, no entourage, no weed, just basketball

he has an amazing talent, and has shown how good of a player he can be so he should not settle for less

[jrong]

What's become crystal clear is that the Heat should have traded the #2 pick. Had the Olympics occurred before the draft, I'm certain they would have, but after '08, they had no idea what kind of Flash they were getting back.

But, with the hype surrounding Rose/Beasley, that pick would have gotten MIA an all-star. Imagine what we'd be looking down in Miami, if Wade already had his Robin, AND the Heat still had enough room to add a max player this summer.

(Plus, Beasley would be a much better, more-developed player at this stage of his career. I've criticized the kid plenty myself, but there's no comparing the situtation he was thrust into with that of his draftmates.)

[Tito Beasley]

And as usual life lessons on the real world from a kid who still nurses on mom's tit and rides dad back. But hey you're just a kid tho right? Does it occur to you that you milk that excuse year after year.

lol i'm 25 and i live on my own and work.

you are THIRTY FIVE and collect welfare and live in your moms basement playing video games.

whats sad is that the internet actually brings us into social interaction with each other. in real life i would just spit on you and keep walking lol.

[B-Easy8]

Vast majority of posters in this thread have seen Beasley play maybe 5 games and have no understanding of his role/situation.

But of course, people only use ISH to hate on people these days, the boards were flooded when the Lakers won again.

Pullen didnt quote that last section so how can we know that it is true. Im guessing its the media feeding off a guys bad rep plus how can he possibly get ripped into like this for giving a friend private advice?

[RoseCity07]

Beasley is everything people judged him to be. A loser. This guy is a headcase and I would get rid of him asap. He reminds me of Omar Gooding in the show Playmakers, anyone who saw the show knows what I'm talking about.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

http://www.ojmayonnaise.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/oj_mayo_3.jpg

OJ Mayo + Dwyane Wade= Best backcourt maybe ever. 25 5 5 proven guy in Wade, and a guy who has 25 5 5 potential. It is like pick your poison.

[cured]

Every time I hear about guys being disgruntled making millions of dollars to play a game 8 months per year I get stabby.

Beasley doesn't have any potential with that attitude and he's certainly not going to smell NBA success.

[Jasper]

I suspect playing basketball gets boring if you do it too often. Especially in a very serious setting like the NBA.

To many fans do not realize the repetition of shots ,workouts , non stop.
As we assume atheltic's is fun and rewarding , the aspect of workout 6-8 hours a day in the off season to get better is also mentally tough.

Yes they get paid millions , but it also means they have to be obligated to their signed contracts.

We as fans would say - wow I get $ 1 million bucks to play - then what would the average fan do with that million , probably walk away from the game , and enjoy life.
12-15 years of being a pro athlete is more than the money.

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I used to run 50 miles a week, prepping for 10k races as well as marathon.

dedication of running when you didn't want to was not easy , but yes there was a high once running.
Locked into a contract , and doing what a franchise wants is not only physically tough , but also mentally tough , and I think as fan's we forget about that aspect , and only think of the arenas' and the big show lights.
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I'm a fan of Beas / and beleive he will be a career double double guy.
Does he have the mental stability to play like in a game 7 in the finals and not choke , or shoot a 25% I don't know. Even as a professional , we saw this past game 7 and it takes experience to handle the pressure and not shoot well or a 25% :cheers:

[entropy35]

Michael needs to get traded or fire coach Spo
this.

[BlueandGold]

What did I miss? What Beasley says it isnt fun anymore!! It was like this his whole NBA career! Dude just wasnt given a team like Derrick, Kevin, Carmelo and Lebron or even Blake Griffin. Dude is upset cuz the coach and how he treated him during his two years in the league. Dude cant even get PT and he is talented!! WTF IS THAT POSSIBLE!! You guys can hate all you want but Beasley is talent! Any other coach would give him PT. But not coach Spo cause he doesnt play young players he is a vetern type of coach.

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[/IMG]

rofl beasley sucks dick even the people don't watch the NBA know how much he sucks. Durant/Rose/Carmelo/Lebron all single-handely took their teams, who are much more lacking than the Heat, to the playoffs. Beasley had the luxury of playing with wade. If Miami would have drafted Rose or Durant or even Mayo, good god.

[PowerGlove]

Its not fun you cant just overpower college kids anymore because there are grown men, better players than you in a league you dreamed of playing in. Its not fun anymore because you have struggled two years and cant figure out what to do to live up to the hype and expectations placed on you as the #2 overall pick. Its fun to Wade. Its fun to Durant. Its fun to Rose. All you have to worry about as an NBA player is? Playing basketball. Nothing else. For 365 days a year you worry about playing basketball and in doing so figuring out ways to get better at it. Oh and you get paid millions to play a game you love and figure out how to be the best you can be.

Cry me a river Beasley.

I dont understand this point of view at all. Sure he gets payed more money than you do, that is understandable. It's another thing to complete trash a dude for saying that he's struggling right now. That is something that everyone has regardless of income level. Do you think that a bigger check just magically makes things better? There are still PLENTY of things that money will never be able to fix.

I've heard many NBA players say it wasn't fun at certain points in their career, nothing new and nothing to rail a guy for. All of this is(well most of it) uncalled for.

Beasley is not trash. Inconsistent? Yes. Should he take most of the blame? Yes. For us just to sit here and call this guy incompetent and waste of a draft after two years is just retarded. Go back and look at other players in NBA. Where was Nash after two years? Where was Dirk? There are other examples as well. Be patient. Some players bloom later than others.

[G-train]

Yeah thats it. Can I ask for the source where the majority here only have seen Beasley play 5 games? Rumors has it that the source may be your ass. But I'll let you tell it. :rolleyes:

No my mind is the source. I can tell from the responses.
Here is some facts, something you are often devoid of.
21 years old.
15 ppg. 6.5 rpg. 30 mpg. 45% FG. 80% FT. 1 steal. 1.5 TO's.
Thats on average.
Had several great games, and some average ones. Showed plenty of star potential. Showed a great improvement on D and effort in general.

I saw him pay at least 50 times. You? Maybe 5? 10? Be honest.
Other posters? 0-10 times.

He is in a developmental stage, and has shown plenty enough that he will be 24/10 guy in the near future. Already a 15/7 guy in 30 mpg.

[Tito Beasley]

Durant/Rose/Carmelo/Lebron all single-handely took their teams, who are much more lacking than the Heat, to the playoffs.


You've gone and completely embarrassed yourself.

[JayGuevara]

I can't imagine how being consumed by something 8 months outta the year (it's more than just games, you do know this, right?), potentially rarely seeing your friends and family during that time, and the always lurking possibility of having to move halfway across the country in a moments notice and leave everything you had established behind, your every action and word being analyzed and over-analyzed by people looking for anything to drag your name through the mud, and etc etc, would not potentially be "fun"

Of course the pay helps to minimize a lot of that, but still. I hated my last job regardless of how much money I made.

None of you know the context of the conversation. Maybe he said "It's not just fun anymore", meaning there is a lot more work in the NBA. Maybe he was exaggerating. Maybe he was guilty of something nearly all of us are too, longing for the past, that desire to go back to a simpler time. Every one of you is a liar if you didn't want to "go home again" or "be a kid again" or etc etc before. And because it would appear as if there's only one summer per customer (word to Rod Serling), maybe Beasley was just longing his "summer", when things were easier, and advised his friend (in a private conversation no less) to just enjoy "summer" before making a monumental decision and moving on.

You're all terrible hypocrites if you say you've never had a thought/conversation based around "if I could do it all over again"

[Go Getter]

I can't imagine how being consumed by something 8 months outta the year (it's more than just games, you do know this, right?), potentially rarely seeing your friends and family during that time, and the always lurking possibility of having to move halfway across the country in a moments notice and leave everything you had established behind, your every action and word being analyzed and over-analyzed by people looking for anything to drag your name through the mud, and etc etc, would not potentially be "fun"




You and Beasley need to live just ONE week in an enlisted man's shoes.

[G-train]

You and Beasley need to live just ONE week in an enlisted man's shoes.

Getting shot in the finger and shot in the stomach both hurt. You can still complain about feeling the pain of being shot in the finger, despite the lesser of the side effects.

In other words, your statement is ridiculous.

[Go Getter]

Getting shot in the finger and shot in the stomach both hurt. You can still complain about feeling the pain of being shot in the finger, despite the lesser of the side effects.

In other words, your statement is ridiculous.


A millionaire complaining about having to play basketball during war time is about as grounded as your logic.

The man said he could not 'imagine' being on the road for 8 months getting paid and exorbitant amount of money flying in private jets and eating the best food prepared for human consumption while having a bevy of beautiful willing hookers at his disposal and the best of the best equipment and therapists [both mental and physical in Beas' case--ZING!].

Being in the military means [it's an unwritten rule] no crying or whining about what YOU SIGNED UP TO DO. That was my main point. There are hundreds, nay thousands of men that are away from their kids today on father's day because they are at war [whether it be right or wrong]....so pardon me if I don't bring Henny and weed to the pity party.

[JayGuevara]

A millionaire complaining about having to play basketball during war time is about as grounded as your logic.

The man said he could not 'imagine' being on the road for 8 months getting paid and exorbitant amount of money flying in private jets and eating the best food prepared for human consumption while having a bevy of beautiful willing hookers at his disposal and the best of the best equipment and therapists [both mental and physical in Beas' case--ZING!].

Being in the military means [it's an unwritten rule] no crying or whining about what YOU SIGNED UP TO DO. That was my main point. There are hundreds, nay thousands of men that are away from their kids today on father's day because they are at war [whether it be right or wrong]....so pardon me if I don't bring Henny and weed to the pity party.

Actually, my post had a typo, it was supposed to say "I CAN imagine how...............would not potentially be fun"

Meaning, I can see how all those things would wear on someone and be a drag. Not that I can't fathom them because they're so difficult.

[King Kong]

he isn't maximizing his god given talent.

[Go Getter]

Actually, my post had a typo, it was supposed to say "I CAN imagine how...............would not potentially be fun"

Meaning, I can see how all those things would wear on someone and be a drag. Not that I can't fathom them because they're so difficult.


Lol...you must live on easy street if you sympathize with millionaires that aren't really asked to do much but play ball, stay in shape, and do interviews appearances.

Seems like the good life to me....but hey, to each his own.

[Go Getter]

Getting shot in the finger and shot in the stomach both hurt. You can still complain about feeling the pain of being shot in the finger, despite the lesser of the side effects.



More like comparing getting shot in the stomach to a paper cut though.

One man is going to get immediate medical attention while the other man will be ridiculed and called a ******.

[plowking]

sometimes its not the player but the people the player is surrounded with

Beasley needs to go back to the basics, he needs to lock himself in the gym this summer and stay there

no partying, no entourage, no weed, just basketball

he has an amazing talent, and has shown how good of a player he can be so he should not settle for less

He has been doing this right after the playoffs ended. Everyone should go read up about it that have said Beasley has no work ethic, and no heart.
I haven't heard a single report about anyone else but Beasley on the Heat team picking up a ball and going hard at training.

A team reporter said he went to about 20 training sessions this year, and every time he attended one he noticed Beasley was the first to arrive and last to leave.

Also, if anything, the quote makes me think he's taking his basketball more seriously now. "It's a job now"...

And also for all of you individual idiots applauding GOBB and repeating the typical "no heart" BS, you all now look like a flock of idiots instead of individually sticking out.

[Go Getter]

He has been doing this right after the playoffs ended. Everyone should go read up about it that have said Beasley has no work ethic, and no heart.
I haven't heard a single report about anyone else but Beasley on the Heat team picking up a ball and going hard at training.

A team reporter said he went to about 20 training sessions this year, and every time he attended one he noticed Beasley was the first to arrive and last to leave.

Also, if anything, the quote makes me think he's taking his basketball more seriously now. "It's a job now"...

And also for all of you individual idiots applauding GOBB and repeating the typical "no heart" BS, you all now look like a flock of idiots instead of individually sticking out.


You are going by third-hand accounts of the situation.

I'm going by facts.

FACT:

1. Beas has not impressed the organization or D Wade.
2. Dude is a headcase
3. He doesn't have a clear cut position in the league and the most disappointing thing is that he doesn't rebound like he did in college. Paul Milsap is a more valuable player right now than Beas, REAL TALKS BRO.
4. You can scream potential at the top of your lungs but after this season Beasley supporters will have little to no ammo especially if Spo is not the coach.

[ROCSteady]

It's not like he's crying to the public, he's advising a friend and brought him a valid perspective. Sure, to you or me NBA player=Dream job but Beasley isn't the first pro athlete to say he had more fun in college. There's really nothing wrong with Beasley admitting to making the wrong decision to a friend of his in order to help that friend make the right one.

Now, does he need to improve his attitude and work habits? Undoubtedly yes.

:applause: Excellent post and I agree. Beasley obv needed to stay pluckin white b!tches at college parties cuz he's still not mature. Everyone path diff but he was just imparting his SuperCoolBeas wisdom to an old friend perhaps leaving an environment he misses

[Go Getter]

:applause: Excellent post and I agree. Beasley obv needed to stay pluckin white b!tches at college parties cuz he's still not mature. Everyone path diff but he was just imparting his SuperCoolBeas wisdom to an old friend perhaps leaving an environment he misses


Everyone [practically] misses college.

But you were supposed to be a better Derrick Coleman, and NBA legend, a once in a decade talent.

Then you get to the league and realize you aren't the man you wanted to be and start whining and smoking weed and get sent off to a therapist.

Then you proceed to have a sub par season and end up whining to your friends back at college talking about how the NBA is no fun?

I bet it's fun cashing those game checks though.

Beas' statements [if he did say them and they were in context] make him look like a ***** that's all I'm saying.

I bet you Rose and RW are having fun working out, enjoying their basketball careers.....Imjustsaying.

[plowking]

And why is everyone getting worked up over this? He said it two weeks before the draft... This was a few years ago...

[HiphopRelated]

You are going by third-hand accounts of the situation.

I'm going by facts.

FACT:

1. Beas has not impressed the organization or D Wade.
2. Dude is a headcase
3. He doesn't have a clear cut position in the league and the most disappointing thing is that he doesn't rebound like he did in college. Paul Milsap is a more valuable player right now than Beas, REAL TALKS BRO.
4. You can scream potential at the top of your lungs but after this season Beasley supporters will have little to no ammo especially if Spo is not the coach.


lol @ your 4 facts being false. carry on.

[niko]

You are going by third-hand accounts of the situation.

I'm going by facts.

FACT:

1. Beas has not impressed the organization or D Wade.
2. Dude is a headcase
3. He doesn't have a clear cut position in the league and the most disappointing thing is that he doesn't rebound like he did in college. Paul Milsap is a more valuable player right now than Beas, REAL TALKS BRO.
4. You can scream potential at the top of your lungs but after this season Beasley supporters will have little to no ammo especially if Spo is not the coach.

I have to agree with this. It's silly to say he's a bad guy or anything. But why is he held to such a low standard? He's really given enormous credit for a fairly unimpressive learning curve. Dude has mad skills and a ten cent head. The ten cent head should be improving. It doesn't appear to be unless you take what he says, twist it totally around so it sounds better.

[HiphopRelated]

I have to agree with this. It's silly to say he's a bad guy or anything. But why is he held to such a low standard? He's really given enormous credit for a fairly unimpressive learning curve. Dude has mad skills and a ten cent head. The ten cent head should be improving. It doesn't appear to be unless you take what he says, twist it totally around so it sounds better.

what's there to twist? He's telling his friend in what was supposed to be a private convo to stay in school and enjoy the life because once you get to the league it's all business.

That somehow became a public defamation of the man. It's hilarious the lengths people want to go to.

How many PFs were putting up better than 15/6 @ 21? And of those that did better, how many were the team built around?

People are dedicated in attempts to turn him into a bust. You would swear he's putting up 5/3 if you just read these posts.

[niko]

what's there to twist? He's telling his friend in what was supposed to be a private convo to stay in school and enjoy the life because once you get to the league it's all business.

That somehow became a public defamation of the man. It's hilarious the lengths people want to go to.

How many PFs were putting up better than 15/6 @ 21? And of those that did better, how many were the team built around?

This is my point, why the **** would Miami build around Beasley? He gets credit for things he has not done. He's been marginally good, they should build around him.

[HiphopRelated]

Not too bright are we?

If he's not the focal point of an offense, then by DEFINITION his opportunities will be limited. There is a built in ceiling to how much Michael Beasley can produce. He's not a guard, he doesn't bring the ball up the floor, he has to be given the ball in position.

I'm not advocating the team be built around him, I'm advocating some damn common sense

[niko]

Not too bright are we?

If he's not the focal point of an offense, then by DEFINITION his opportunities will be limited. Their is a built in ceiling to how much Michael Beasley can produce. He's not a guard, he doesn't bring the ball up the floor, he has to be given the ball in position.

I'm not advocating the team be built around him, I'm advocating some damn common sense

He's been dissapointing. I think the Beasley fans have no common sense. Beasley says something dumb, GIVE HIM A BREAK! Why? Am i advocating he be cut from the team? :confusedshrug:

The only difference is our viewpoint is you think he is above criticism and I do not.

[HiphopRelated]

I criticize him all the damn time.

He doesn't finish strong in the paint although he can, he's late on defensive rotations but a pretty good man defender. He tends to fade in and out when his jumper isn't falling.

What I don't do is have some irrational hate to the point that everything he says or does is extrapollated to him being Darius Miles as a player.

SOME people want to hold him to some ridiculous standard that he's in no position currently to reach given several circumstances, and then tear him down when he can't reach them.

Nobody's out there sh1tting on Rose or Westbrook's defense and they're worse than Beasley @ their positions. The difference is their team will throw them out there anyway.

Tell Derrick Rose he has to master the art of being Kirk Hinrich before he gets PT/trust and see how well he does.

[GOBB]

No my mind is the source. I can tell from the responses.

You made an ASSumption. Why deny it? :confusedshrug:


Here is some facts, something you are often devoid of.
21 years old.
15 ppg. 6.5 rpg. 30 mpg. 45% FG. 80% FT. 1 steal. 1.5 TO's.
Thats on average.
Had several great games, and some average ones. Showed plenty of star potential. Showed a great improvement on D and effort in general.

And you left out some bad ones. But I'm pretty sure you meant to add that right? He's also shown lack of effort, passion, awareness on the court. But again you were going to mention that as well correct? Or are these things the coaches fault.

He's been a disappointment.


I saw him pay at least 50 times. You? Maybe 5? 10? Be honest.
Other posters? 0-10 times.

Miami has been on nationaly TV 15 times. 23 if we are counting NBATV which I have. They've played the Sixers 4 times, 2 of which werent on national TV. NBA League pass has been free 2 times last season. At the start and in the middle, both of which I made threads about letting others know. Now you can by all means utilize the ISH Search feature and see if GOBB is BS'ing or being honest. Dwayne Wade is my favorite player in the NBA. And not just because of now/this moment. He's been my favorite for quite some time. And I'm one of the posters here who always mentions he is as good a Kobe and Bron whom seem to be above him by some. So you'd think with the internet and how you are able to watch NBA games that dont come on your TV especially if you dont have NBA League pass for an entire season. A fan might just pull up channelsurfing.net, justin.tv to catch his favorite player playing. It just so happens Beasley is on the team. Go figure.

So now your next reply will be exactly what? Questioning how valid any of this is? Or maybe saying you watched more of the Heat than I have to give a better assessment on a player than me? That way you can attempt to save face and deflect the intial point of this discussion. That YOU talked out of your ass. Or to be nice made an ASSumption and felt good about it being accurate too. Based on the responses which was more geared towards slamming Beasley attitude which was a RED FLAG upon him being drafted.

Oh and by the way care to post his stats in the playoffs? Miami Heat happened to play 5 games vs the Boston Celtics. And one thing noticable was Beasley lack of effort, hustle and no sense of urgency when on the floor. When Joel Anthony and Udonis Haslem are outplaying, fighting, digging thier claws into the ground and J.Oneil and Beasley have thier heads up thier ass? It says something. But maybe I was seeing things? I dont know. Because I probably didnt watch the Boston series. Right? Be honest.


He is in a developmental stage, and has shown plenty enough that he will be 24/10 guy in the near future. Already a 15/7 guy in 30 mpg.

To be fair to Beasley his comments were private and not actually public. I was a Beasley supporter when he came out of college. If anything I'll acknowledge his career is far from over. He has time, he can definately become a better player than he has shown in 2 years and 2 postseasons (which he should have erased from peoples memories). He has the talent, I am questioning if he has the intangibles, the mental makeup that this game requires. He left Dwayne Wade hanging 2 years in a row in postseason. I've eaten crow before, I've been proven wrong as well. Its nothing, no one is batting 1.000 but they'd like you believe they are.

Show n prove Beasley because right now? I'm not feeling you.

Maybe Beasley should push for the NBA age limit to be pushed higher.

[GOBB]

I dont understand this point of view at all. Sure he gets payed more money than you do, that is understandable. It's another thing to complete trash a dude for saying that he's struggling right now. That is something that everyone has regardless of income level. Do you think that a bigger check just magically makes things better? There are still PLENTY of things that money will never be able to fix.

Beasley unlike most Americans is doing something he loves to do. Come 3-5pm during rush hour? Stop the working person and ask them do you love your job. Beasley is doing something he loves that requires him to just WORK on his game. Thats it. Watch film. Work on weakness, polish strengths, stay in good condition. He has numerous resources to help him. And away from the court as well. He has veterans who been there, done that. And ontop of this? You are getting paid to do something you love. And its guranteed. Thats icing on the cake.


I've heard many NBA players say it wasn't fun at certain points in their career, nothing new and nothing to rail a guy for. All of this is(well most of it) uncalled for.

Get off your soap box because this reply says you have never been critical or said anything that was deemed uncalled for by others. :rolleyes:

Its not a big deal to make a long drawn out thread over.


Beasley is not trash. Inconsistent? Yes. Should he take most of the blame? Yes. For us just to sit here and call this guy incompetent and waste of a draft after two years is just retarded. Go back and look at other players in NBA. Where was Nash after two years? Where was Dirk? There are other examples as well. Be patient. Some players bloom later than others.

I've never called Beasley trash. Never said he was a wasted pick. I've said so far he's been a huge disappointment and should be doing more than he has. Sorry if I'm not welcoming the excuses people are feeding me. I've heard them in regards to Kwame Brown and Darko Milicic. How are they doin by the way? People are critical of Beasley for a good reason. You want to praise him or find something good to say? Cool, but I'll give you how I feel about the guy thus far as a player.

I think we are more capable of weeding out the trolls and extremists when it comes to this correct? Beasley sucks balls vs Beasley will be a top 5 player watch hater! I dont pay much attention to that.

[PaperClip]

And why is everyone getting worked up over this? He said it two weeks before the draft... This was a few years ago...

He said it before the draft deadline this year.

[Dresta]

making millions of $$$$ playing a game isn't fun?:rant i'm now going to stop defending Beasley. he is a dumbass.
That's not what he said though, pretty much seemed like good advice to me, enjoy college and the freedom it gives you while you can, because there's no going back.

[Dresta]

Beasley unlike most Americans is doing something he loves to do. Come 3-5pm during rush hour? Stop the working person and ask them do you love your job. Beasley is doing something he loves that requires him to just WORK on his game. Thats it. Watch film. Work on weakness, polish strengths, stay in good condition. He has numerous resources to help him. And away from the court as well. He has veterans who been there, done that. And ontop of this? You are getting paid to do something you love. And its guranteed. Thats icing on the cake.

.
Thing is, i don't really think that's what he meant, based on what he said, it seems not like he was saying its bad, or he isn't lucky etc. But playing in the NBA just takes some of the fun out of basketball, and so to enjoy that while you can at college.

[GOBB]

Fair enough.