Memo to Dwight Howard: Andre Drummond is coming for that #1 Center Spot

[Younggrease]

Andre Drummond Official Mixtape
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH3_K4uIsxA

Dwight Howard needs to get all his first team all NBA births in now because this kid looks like his is about to come in and give ever big in the league. Finally the league is getting some big men!!

[Carbine]

As was the case when you undeservedly proped up Rubio as the next great thing, you are wrong here.

[UConnCeltics]

He is coming to UConn for a year first.

[Younggrease]

As was the case when you undeservedly proped up Rubio as the next great thing, you are wrong here.

I said Rubio was going to be an all star point guard in the league...He has not set foot in the NBA yet...therefore I cant be wrong as of now...

Thanks for the irrelevant comment.


He is coming to UConn for a year first.

pretty sure Dwight is happy about this

[UConnCeltics]

pretty sure Dwight is happy about this
Either you just took a shot at UConn, or implying he is going straight to the NBA, which can't happen.

[chillfan23]

Andre Drummond Official Mixtape
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH3_K4uIsxA

Dwight Howard needs to get all his first team all NBA births in now because this kid looks like his is about to come in and give ever big in the league. Finally the league is getting some big men!!

you like completley overlooked all the big men in this year's draft. Cousins could come for that #1 spot. Also, that high school class has a lot of big men with a lot of potential. Isaiah Austin is also a great player in that class whose a legit 7 footer.

let's also not forget Andrew Bynum, who could still be a great center if he stays healthy

[plowking]

It'd be so depressing playing someone like that in high school... The dude just shits on people, and that's usually the case with guys this big.
Some of those blocks on the 6 foot guards were just depressing haha.

[OnceInADECADE]

deandre jordan says hi. deandre is going to be legit bro. only is they trade kaman

[I am that I am]

I said Rubio was going to be an all star point guard in the league...He has not set foot in the NBA yet...therefore I cant be wrong as of now...

Thanks for the irrelevant comment.



pretty sure Dwight is happy about this

Rubio isn't even an allstar, let alone AVERAGE player in Spanish league. He regularly airballs wideopen college length 3s. He is one of the worst starting pgs in Euroleague. And you think he'll succeed in the NBA why? obviously you just suck at judging talent

[artificial]

I'm confused. What happened with OP's mancrush with Cousins?

[Se]

Either you just took a shot at UConn, or implying he is going straight to the NBA, which can't happen.

Are you slow?

He said Dwight would be happy, because that means it's another year before Drummond steals Dwight's spotlight.

[Se]

deandre jordan says hi. deandre is going to be legit bro. only is they trade kaman

He's terrible on D. Good rebounder, terrible defender. I wish you were the Clippers GM. The team would be even worse and you'd trade away good players like Kaman so scrubs like Jordan can play.

[BlueandGold]

wow, dunking on guys that are 5'11 and blocking their shots too. NEXT KAREEM+HAKEEM

[PowerGlove]

Ummm...what kind of weak ass competition was that Youngrease? Those guys were absolutely shitty. Doesnt impress me. I want to see him playing against GOOD schools. Not some Div 5 highschool that barely has any show up to tryouts.

[LBJMVP]

if he has a game that involves more than catching lobs and dunking then he has a legit chance to be better.

[Andrei89]

wow, dunking on guys that are 5'11 and blocking their shots too. NEXT KAREEM+HAKEEM

This

My god that guy is so gooooood!!!!!:rolleyes:

[InspiredLebowski]

Did I just see them include him dribbling by some guys for a pullup that was clearly after a whistle in a highlight package?

[Younggrease]

Well I guess no one saw him cross over from the top of the key and finish with left handed dunk...

[Big Bang Theory]

Not one back to the basket move that entire video.

[Younggrease]

Not one back to the basket move that entire video.

He is a sophmore in high school with shooting touch and coordination. The type of athletism and touch has not been seen in a 7 footer in years. Not since the golden age of centers. This kid seems to have that potential as he is only just completed his sophmore year of high school(he may be a junior though, im kinda confused on that)

Andre Drummond Simply Dominated the Bob Gibbons Tournament of Champions


The Bob Gibbons Tournament of Champions was once again loaded with talented travel teams that made their way to Tobacco Road from across the country. The overall talent level of the event was tremendous and featured a variety of great performances, especially in the Class of 2012, starting with PF/C Andre Drummond (Hartford, Conn./St. Thomas More) who was simply dominant, displaying his skill and power in the open court and low post.


Andre Drummond
2012, 6-foot-11, 275 pounds | Team: Connecticut Basketball Club
His talent, size, strength and mobility make him an elite player. He runs the floor at high speeds, uses his excellent hands to catch tough passes and finishes above the rim with authority. Drummond also displayed the ability to rebound and go coast to coast. He is a great ball handler and passer for a player his size, especially in the open court. He can also make scoring plays off the dribble from the high post and short corner area, like a small forward. In the low post, Drummond uses his big body to get great position. He scores with a high, elevating turnaround shot or power drop step which allows him to dunk in traffic with ease. Drummond also rebounds with two hands at rim level on the defensive end and is tough to box out on the offensive glass. He can simply move opponents under the rim with his strength for an easy putback. He blocks shots in and out of his area and played with great energy throughout the game.

[qrich]

:oldlol:

Was I the only one that thought, based off the threat title, that it was Memo Okur telling Dwight Howard about Andre Drummond?

[chillfan23]

He is a sophmore in high school with shooting touch and coordination. The type of athletism and touch has not been seen in a 7 footer in years. Not since the golden age of centers. This kid seems to have that potential as he is only just completed his sophmore year of high school(he may be a junior though, im kinda confused on that)

Andre Drummond Simply Dominated the Bob Gibbons Tournament of Champions

he's actually 6 ft 9" on several scouting websites...but thats besides the point...we should hesitate before comparing him to dwight howard...there are many athletic big men in the nba...also, i heard that isaiah austin is way more skilled than drummond

[chillfan23]

Ummm...what kind of weak ass competition was that Youngrease? Those guys were absolutely shitty. Doesnt impress me. I want to see him playing against GOOD schools. Not some Div 5 highschool that barely has any show up to tryouts.

to be fair, drummond is on the u17 national team...and you have to be fairly decent to be on that team...he's also ranked in the top 5 by all the scouting sites...so he's clearly a good player...but i do agree that the comparisons to dwight howard

[ProfessorMurder]

I'm impressed. He's athletic, can shoot, has pretty good handles. Obviously needs a post game(wasn't shown at least), needs to keep the ball higher.

He could be nasty.

[chillfan23]

Well I guess no one saw him cross over from the top of the key and finish with left handed dunk...

if you think Andre Drummond is the next dwight, why would you highlight his crossover...everyone knows dwight can't dribble consistently on a break

[Younggrease]

he's actually 6 ft 9" on several scouting websites...but thats besides the point...we should hesitate before comparing him to dwight howard...there are many athletic big men in the nba...also, i heard that isaiah austin is way more skilled than drummond

He actually grew since than...he grew 2 inches during the season.


if you think Andre Drummond is the next dwight, why would you highlight his crossover...everyone knows dwight can't dribble consistently on a break

never said he was the next Dwight...I said he could be better than Dwight. I hope he isnt like Dwight tbh, I hope he develops a post game...As of now he seems to have a lot more tough than Dwight had at that age

[bdreason]

I never get excited about HS prospects. Kwame Brown dominated kids in HS too.

[ShaqAttack3234]

I wouldn't jump the gun, guess who is teaching Dwight.
http://img.mobypicture.com/4042626808840d467458b3270fc9bdb1_view.jpg

Now Dwight has already proven he's a beast avaring 21/14/3 in 2009 while leading Orlando to 59 wins and the finals(averaged 20/15/3 on 60% shooting in the playoffs). He dropped off a bit this year, but Orlando still won 59 games and made it to the ECF. He's proven himself as a legit franchise player and the individual accolades are piling up. 2-time DPOY, 3-time rebounding leader, 2-time blocks leader, FG% champion, holds the record for most blocks in a finals game.....

And he's still just 24 and as scary as it sounds, pretty raw. Not many big men have had his kind of athleticism. 39" vertical and incredible speed. If he can average 20+ or lead the league in FG% with just a running hook and a jump hook, imagine what he could do with a little improvement in his counter moves which Dream could certainly help him with.

Dwight's problem is that he can be predictable, but that was Ewing's problem at times as well, Olajuwon was the opposite and Dwight could learn a lot from him. But I have my doubts this kid will even be as good as Dwight's been the last 3 years. I hope he is because the league needs more good big men, but Dwight is a legit franchise player and the only other big man who has been drafted in the 2000s who we could say that about was Yao, but we all know what happened to him. And Yao also seemed more unusual than this guy.

[The Ownage]

:oldlol:

Was I the only one that thought, based off the threat title, that it was Memo Okur telling Dwight Howard about Andre Drummond?
I'm guilty of that too. :lol

[Younggrease]

Absolutel sick...this guy has AMAZING TALENT like no big man in years to come out...Look at the coordination, athletism and feel...it just keeps getting better...dude used to be a guard before the growth spurt..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNlN1m5D1d8

trust me invest the few minutes and watch the new great big man...


he's actually 6 ft 9" on several scouting websites...but thats besides the point...we should hesitate before comparing him to dwight howard...there are many athletic big men in the nba...also, i heard that isaiah austin is way more skilled than drummond

look at him in these videos no matter what measurement you want to look at, just watch the handle, the shooting, the athleticism and the feel.

People get excited over John Wall? then people should go crazy over this kid!!!

[Younggrease]

Another video update of this young upcoming talent..

2010 Summer Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYlnK-kQuHA

[plowking]

Another video update of this young upcoming talent..

2010 Summer Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYlnK-kQuHA

He looks a lot like Amare at 0:04 there... crazy.

[Scoooter]

Kid looks like he can play. Very smooth and coordinated for a big man.

[OnceInADECADE]

I heard he is now on the class of 2011

[zORi]

He is a sophmore in high school with shooting touch and coordination. The type of athletism and touch has not been seen in a 7 footer in years. Not since the golden age of centers. This kid seems to have that potential as he is only just completed his sophmore year of high school(he may be a junior though, im kinda confused on that)

Andre Drummond Simply Dominated the Bob Gibbons Tournament of Champions

No disrespect intended, but do you know who you sound like? OnceInADecade in a thread about Beasley.

[dwadefan11]

Played in a tournament against Andre's team CBC in massachusts... dudes a beast flat out

Team had a ton of great shooters too, just like the Magic

[Pointguard]

At first he looked like a big stiff but then the beast is unleashed. Yeah great to see great center potential. Particurally one that can score.

[ProfessorMurder]

I'm impressed. He's athletic, can shoot, has pretty good handles. Obviously needs a post game(wasn't shown at least), needs to keep the ball higher.

He could be nasty.

This again! But he looks even better now, some of those passes were very good, some post moves were shown. Good shit.

[OnceInADECADE]

No disrespect intended, but do you know who you sound like? OnceInADecade in a thread about Beasley.

wtf?

[zORi]

wtf?
I said "No disrespect intended".....

[LosBulls]

Dwight will and can shit on this guy. This guy is too weak and you can tell just by looking at him play. He will gain a lot more weight in the NBA but Dwight would still shit on him. From what ive seen this guy could very well be the face of the franchise (76ers maybe). He is better than any center/pf in this year's class and that is for sure. Cousins might be good but I see this guy being WAY too skilled for his size. Second coming of KG maybe.

[HylianNightmare]

I don't think so

[NLZ]

Dwight will and can shit on this guy. This guy is too weak and you can tell just by looking at him play. He will gain a lot more weight in the NBA but Dwight would still shit on him. From what ive seen this guy could very well be the face of the franchise (76ers maybe). He is better than any center/pf in this year's class and that is for sure. Cousins might be good but I see this guy being WAY too skilled for his size. Second coming of KG maybe.

So Dwight will "shit" on this guy, but he's a potential 2nd coming of KG?

In other words, you think Dwight is better at his prime than KG(which is now), as KG has passed his and you clearly are referring to KG's prime.

You're insane

[Nelson14]

So Dwight will "shit" on this guy, but he's a potential 2nd coming of KG?

In other words, you think Dwight is better at his prime than KG(which is now), as KG has passed his and you clearly are referring to KG's prime.

You're insane


there is your problem, if you base everything on potential then guys like darko, oden, bowie, would be goat's right?:facepalm

[ZenMaster]

there is your problem, if you base everything on potential then guys like darko, oden, bowie, would be goat's right?:facepalm

I don't get it... He hasn't played in the NBA yet, how could you base your opinion on anything but potential?

[Nelson14]

I don't get it... He hasn't played in the NBA yet, how could you base your opinion on anything but potential?
it's the fact that he's making it sound like this guy who may or may not be the 2nd coming of garnett:rolleyes: would just shit on the 2 time DPOY.
i understand there is nothing else to base it on but if he is the next KG, then dwight wouldn't even be defending him because he's be a PF


On the downside, Drummond is still very much a raw prospect who would clearly struggle against high-level competition at this juncture. He has very little idea how to establish position in the paint and use his amazing body to his advantage, lacking a great deal in the ways of footwork and post-moves and struggling with basic concepts like passing out of the post and respecting the spacing of his team’s half-court offense. He doesn’t appear to be the type of player whom everything comes naturally for, sporting somewhat of an average IQ that is likely further accentuated by his lack of experience and all-around polish.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Andre-Drummond-5772/#ixzz0zW4JY9GJ
http://www.draftexpress.com

[IGOTGAME]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFiybVegpQ0

More Videos of Andre Drummond. Kid is gonna be the next great center.

Strengths:
Where to start? Few players in America (pro or college) have combination of size, athletic ability and skill that he possesses. Anthing around the rim he catches and dunks, often times while getting fouled by two or more people. He has a hook and is comfortable near the basket with either hand. He can face and is not only a threat to shoot but he can drive with authority. Anywhere on the floor he's an adept passer which speaks to his basketball IQ. His reflexes around the ball and the rim are awesome. He's a super offensive rebounder and will get after it on the other side. Defensively, he's an intimidator. He blocks more shots by hanging around the paint and just being himself. He won't chase shots, but rather waits and gets them on the release, often times with the ability to swat a shot at its apex. He's an excellent leaper for his size and weight. He's one of the best in the country at keeping balls alive, tipping to himself and finishing the play.

Weaknesses:
With all the talent comes the expectation to play in a dominant fashion all the time. Drummond is not quite there yet. When he does "bring it" there's no question who the best in the class is or will be. Offensively, because of his skill level, he is prone to floating to the perimeter. His best games comes when he's anchored inside to start and then works his way to the perimeter if he goes there at all. He can shoot the basketball, though that's always an area to improve. Our concern has little to do with his ability or anything other than sheer consistency. When he chooses, he's the best there is. He's got to become comfortable with his body. One of the reasons why he's inconsistent is that like a lot of bigs before him (Greg Oden included) it often times takes them longer to adjust to being the biggest guy on the floor. Mix in referees calling touch fouls on a big guy and it often stunts, in their mind, their ability to be aggressive. In time he will adjust to his own size; he's too talented not too.

Bottom Line:
Drummond has a chance to be one of the elite big men of the last decade. Big statement but because he's exponentially talented and more than capable of licing up the extreme expectations. He's a game changing recruit for a program who will have a chance to be the No. 1 overall player in any draft he's involved with.

Notes
Travel Team: Connecticut Basketball Club...A number of high major programs are heavily involved...

http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player?id=61194&_slug_=andre-drummond&action=login&appRedirect=http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player%3fid%3d61194%26_slug_%3dandre-drummond

I find it funny how harsh Draftexpress is when rating him when I compare it to how much of a pass a pass they gave Oden's skill development.

[PP34Deuce]

watching his hightlights next to Dwights...Not even close...

This guy Drummond seems to have a better handle maybe, but at the same age Dwight was stronger,quicker leaper,higher leaper, and just Pure power at 18.

And you know what, Greg Oden healthy wasnt showing me anything worldly either....Dude makes Dwight offense look like Hakeem.

[Ikill]

watching his hightlights next to Dwights...Not even close...

This guy Drummond seems to have a better handle maybe, but at the same age Dwight was stronger,quicker leaper,higher leaper, and just Pure power at 18.

And you know what, Greg Oden healthy wasnt showing me anything worldly either....Dude makes Dwight offense look like Hakeem.
Your in denial bro both Oden and Drummond have way more offensive potential than Dwight. Drummond looks just as athletic as Dwight, and then you say Drummond might have better handles :lol dude has way better handles not even close and passing is amazing too.

[The Choken One]

wow, dunking on guys that are 5'11 and blocking their shots too. NEXT KAREEM+HAKEEM
This x100.

Atleast wait to see if he can beast in college before you compare him to the best center in NBA...jebus man.

[IGOTGAME]

Drummond has never his decision down to 7 schools

Louisville
Kentucky
West Virginia
Connecticut
Pitt
North Carolina
Georgetown

[Ikill]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-79yUG1Lp4&feature=player_embedded#at=62

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaytqTQq0l8&feature=player_embedded#at=113

[IGOTGAME]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-79yUG1Lp4&feature=player_embedded#at=62

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaytqTQq0l8&feature=player_embedded#at=113

this is the draft that will shape the next 10 years of the NBA.

[Clippersfan86]

Smaller Roy Hibbert.

[IGOTGAME]

Smaller Roy Hibbert.

^^^Someone who has not followed Roy Hibberts Career.

[Clippersfan86]

^^^Someone who has not followed Roy Hibberts Career.

I should of elaborated. Smaller Dwight Howard.. but his offensive game reminds me of Hibbert. His strengths are on the defensive end obviously.

[Ikill]

this is the draft that will shape the next 10 years of the NBA.
which draft?

[Ikill]

I should of elaborated. Smaller Dwight Howard.. but his offensive game reminds me of Hibbert. His strengths are on the defensive end obviously.
smaller Dwight Howard? He is already 6'11 275 and i heard he has a 7'7 wingspan Dwight was 6'10 240 and had 7'5 wingspan coming in. Why does his offensive game remind you of Hibberts?

[Orlando Magic]

Memo to Dwight Howard: Andre Drummond is coming for that #1 Center Spot

Absolutely not. No.

[Clippersfan86]

smaller Dwight Howard? He is already 6'11 275 and i heard he has a 7'7 wingspan Dwight was 6'10 240 and had 7'5 wingspan coming in. Why does his offensive game remind you of Hibberts?

Hmmm Dwight is no doubt bulkier than this kid. I mentioned Hibbert because for his great size.. his ballhandling, decent looking stroke and using length and size to overwhelm on both ends of the floor. Both have insane wingspans. Both Hibbert and this guy seem to have great range for how big they are and how much they prefer playing in the post. Both can run the floor amazingly well for their size. I think Hibbert has a better touch around the rim but as a rookie he didn't. Maybe I'm crazy but when I saw these videos I thought of Roy Hibbert. Watch this Hibbert mix from last season.

I definitely see similarities in their style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbSE0hmMJQc

[IGOTGAME]

Hmmm Dwight is no doubt bulkier than this kid. I mentioned Hibbert because for his great size.. his ballhandling, decent looking stroke and using length and size to overwhelm on both ends of the floor. Both have insane wingspans. Both Hibbert and this guy seem to have great range for how big they are and how much they prefer playing in the post. Both can run the floor amazingly well for their size. I think Hibbert has a better touch around the rim but as a rookie he didn't. Maybe I'm crazy but when I saw these videos I thought of Roy Hibbert. Watch this Hibbert mix from last season.

I definitely see similarities in their style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbSE0hmMJQc

Roy hibbert at 18 was not even half the athlete this kid is.

[Clippersfan86]

Roy hibbert at 18 was not even half the athlete this kid is.

I didn't say they were identical, calm the F down dude. You're acting like he's your boyfriend or some sh*t. I see a lot of similarities, get over it. I didn't say one was better or worse. Or who has more potential etc.

[alenleomessi]

a lots of good options for the clippers next year ( minny's pick)
drummond
rivers
barnes
terrence and perry jones
sullinger
...

[Ikill]

Hmmm Dwight is no doubt bulkier than this kid. I mentioned Hibbert because for his great size.. his ballhandling, decent looking stroke and using length and size to overwhelm on both ends of the floor. Both have insane wingspans. Both Hibbert and this guy seem to have great range for how big they are and how much they prefer playing in the post. Both can run the floor amazingly well for their size. I think Hibbert has a better touch around the rim but as a rookie he didn't. Maybe I'm crazy but when I saw these videos I thought of Roy Hibbert. Watch this Hibbert mix from last season.

I definitely see similarities in their style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbSE0hmMJQc
I was talking about rookie Dwight to Drummond right now he's bigger and more athletic than Dwight at the same stage. I do see similarities between there games but Andre Drummond is a lot more athletic than Hibbert. Actually there are probably only 3-4 bigs at most that are more athletic than this kid in the NBA right now.

[Theoo's Daddy]

Jeremy tyler was better than this kid in high school

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aevBoY5IaxA&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaJcyVNju4k

[Ikill]

a lots of good options for the clippers next year ( minny's pick)
drummond
rivers
barnes
terrence and perry jones
sullinger
...
Drummond is not in next years draft

[Orlando Magic]

I hate highlight videos consisting of nothing but uncontested dunks. They tell you absolutely nothing about a player. NOTHING.

[Ikill]

I hate highlight videos consisting of nothing but uncontested dunks. They tell you absolutely nothing about a player. NOTHING.
:roll:

[Fatal9]

Came in expecting to see some post moves and nice around the basket skills. Leaving thread disappointed.

[alenleomessi]

Drummond is not in next years draft
i think he will be eligible

[wang4three]

This kid isn't even in the same generation as Dwight. He's like 7-8 years younger. By the time he hits his prime, Dwight would be into his 30s already.

[Patrick Chewing]

Drummond's not as tall

[Ikill]

Drummond's not as tall
he is 6'10-6'11

[IGOTGAME]

Anyone have any insight into why a prospect of Drummond's caliber would want to do a post graduate year? is this a red flag?

[chips93]

Both Hibbert and this guy seem to have great range for how big they are and how much they prefer playing in the post.


thats completely false, the main criticism of drummond is that he doesnt play aggressively enough down low

[The Big Skinny]

Too many morons in this thread. He is not even close to Dwight Howard. Andre Drummond is not even close to a true center. He can handle the ball, shoot the mid range jumper and run the floor like a gazelle. Dwight is a true, rebounding, shot blocking, center. Andre Drummond looks more like Amare Stoudemire or a thinner, quicker DeMarcus Cousins

[LBJMVP]

Too many morons in this thread. He is not even close to Dwight Howard. Andre Drummond is not even close to a true center. He can handle the ball, shoot the mid range jumper and run the floor like a gazelle. Dwight is a true, rebounding, shot blocking, center. Andre Drummond looks more like Amare Stoudemire or a thinner, quicker DeMarcus Cousins
andrew wiggins is better than both.

[Grinder]

Too many morons in this thread. He is not even close to Dwight Howard. Andre Drummond is not even close to a true center. He can handle the ball, shoot the mid range jumper and run the floor like a gazelle. Dwight is a true, rebounding, shot blocking, center. Andre Drummond looks more like Amare Stoudemire or a thinner, quicker DeMarcus Cousins

Yep. If Drummond can get it together and play more aggressively he'll have a chance to be a special player. Up to this point, he hasn't even been able to dominate at the high school level and has regularly had 8-14 point games.

[ballerz]

Overreaction. needs to perform against better players not some underdeveloped high school ballers

[IGOTGAME]

Overreaction. needs to perform against better players not some underdeveloped high school ballers

Well it is a projection based on what is out there. Isn't that the point of talking about up and coming players?

Guy seems to not play hard all the time and it is frustrating watching him sometimes. He decided to go back to prep school next year and is undecided about going str8 to the league after or going to college afterwards.

Here is some more recent video on this elite big man talent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx3bCS0FUEE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jutBA4q9EE&feature=player_embedded#at=105

wait for the Drummond section on the last one...it is worth it.

[andredagiant]

This guy is a beast, based on the videos we are given, he is a man among boys, but that's just it, he is a "man" among "boys". In the NBA he would just be a big stiff unless he works on his game ASAP. He's getting away with doing what he do because he playing high school kids.

Don't know whether it's because of the footage we are shown or not, but based on the footage we are shown, he appears to be a big stiff, he's not very fast, doesn't jump that high, and his play is not very agile, the only reason he does what he does is because he's playing against people who are much smaller than him. In the NBA he will get outrunned, outjumped, outdribbled, and outblocked, he needs to work on his skills because he is not going to run the NBA with his current skillset, and does not look to become a athletic Dwight Howard/Shaq or even Greg Oden clone. He seems to me like he could become a poor man's zach randolph or elton brand except he's taller.

[chips93]

Don't know whether it's because of the footage we are shown or not, but based on the footage we are shown, he appears to be a big stiff, he's not very fast, doesn't jump that high, and his play is not very agile, the only reason he does what he does is because he's playing against people who are much smaller than him. In the NBA he will get outrunned, outjumped, outdribbled, and outblocked, he needs to work on his skills because he is not going to run the NBA with his current skillset, and does not look to become a athletic Dwight Howard/Shaq or even Greg Oden clone. He seems to me like he could become a poor man's zach randolph or elton brand except he's taller.

well from what most scouts say, his athleticism isnt anything holding him back. he has outstanding physical tools, its just that he lacks consistence, toughness, and an understanding of where he is effective (down low). he has the tools to be another amare, but so did stromile swift. it takes a lot more than athleticism, to be a good nba scorer, and if he fails to become an nba star, its likely that his mentality and lack of polish held him back, not a lack of athleticism.

[IGOTGAME]

Watch out Dwight. He is coming...

[IGOTGAME]

Watch out Dwight. He is coming...
Footsteps are getting louder Dwight.

[MMKM]

Lol, I hope he has a big year. He is beast mode

[Sarcastic]

Too bad the teams that passed on him didn't read this thread.

[secund2nun]

It's a damn shame that overrated Lilliard got ROY over far superior rookies like Davis and Drummond.

[KNOW1EDGE]

It's a damn shame that overrated Lilliard got ROY over far superior rookies like Davis and Drummond.

Not sure if serious? :confusedshrug:

Lillard was unanimous rookie of the year, it wasn't even close.

I will assume you didn't watch him play, and you didn't want sports center, and I assume you are a teenager

[RIP CITY]

He still has a very long way to go before he becomes the best Center in the NBA but he's on the right track so far, seems to be improving and despite all the pre-draft chatter he's proven to be a hard worker. Everyone in the Pistons organization all use the same word to describe him "he's a sponge", he listens and wants to learn every little bit of information he can to improve. He's been at the Pistons facility working on his game alot both summers he's been with the team.

He's still very raw offensively but I think he's going to become a great defensive player very soon. Not sure he'll ever be dominant offensively but I have very little doubt that he will be dominant on the defensive end.

He's supposed to be working with Hakeem Olajuwon this summer on his offensive game so hopefully that will help him alot. If he continues to work hard on his game I could definitely see him becoming the best Center in the NBA a few years from now. I know it's only Summer League but he looks ALOT more confident this year in SL than he did in the last year's SL. He's been dominant. He had a solid Rookie season and this year he will be a full-time starter, I expect to see him hovering around a double-double at least this year. He has a ton of potential, as long as he stays healthy he should become one of the best big men in the NBA.

[Done_And_Done]

Not sure if serious? :confusedshrug:

Lillard was unanimous rookie of the year, it wasn't even close.

I will assume you didn't watch him play, and you didn't want sports center, and I assume you are a teenager

This...

DL was indeed the rightful taker of the award last season. As a matter of fact, they could have etched his name on the trophy by about the February point. That's not to take anything away from the other batch of competing rookies, as it's more so a thing of reality and fact....

Done & Done

[secund2nun]

Not sure if serious? :confusedshrug:

Lillard was unanimous rookie of the year, it wasn't even close.

I will assume you didn't watch him play, and you didn't want sports center, and I assume you are a teenager

It was a travesty he won. Tell me what he did that made him better than Davis, who had a far superior season

Lilliard basically had a better passing version of a Ben Gordon type season (and he 22, not some 19 year old), yet was next in a long line of overrated perimeter players to be hyped up buy the media. I don't buy into their BS hype. 42.9% fg and poor defense is not ROY worthy with big men studs like Davis and Drummond around.

[Johnny Jones]

Not sure if serious? :confusedshrug:

Lillard was unanimous rookie of the year, it wasn't even close.

I will assume you didn't watch him play, and you didn't want sports center, and I assume you are a teenager
In terms of win shares, both Davis and Drummond were both way better than Lillard. Davis had like .160 win shares per 48, Drummond had .170 win shares per 48.

Lillard? .088 win shares per 48. (Keep in mind that superstar level is around .200 win shares per 48)

Lillard looked like the ROY on the surface but once you dig deeper it becomes apparent that both Davis and Drummond were better last year.

[LBJMVP]

andrew wiggins is better than both.
I knew back 2011. To bad this post had nothing to do with thread.

[PickernRoller]

I am pretty it'll be Big Cuz who takes that title. If he ever matures.

[unknowns8]

I am pretty it'll be Big Cuz who takes that title. If he ever matures.

will never happen


back on topic, I can see andre drummond having a biiiiiiig season, having calderon driving and dishing to both monroe and drummond looks good on paper at least, i really hope it lives up to the expectations

[Kombo]

will never happen


back on topic, I can see andre drummond having a biiiiiiig season, having calderon driving and dishing to both monroe and drummond looks good on paper at least, i really hope it lives up to the expectations

Calderon went to Dallas.

[IGOTGAME]

Watch out Dwight. He is coming...
watch out Dwight!!

had people in here comparing him to Darko!!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9207220#post9207220

[boozehound]

I am pretty it'll be Big Cuz who takes that title. If he ever matures.
Cmon now son. Cousins is great, but hes a whiner (and always will be), self-entitled and doesnt try on either end when he is sulking. He has the talent, but will never maximize it.

[andremiller07]

:lol

I don't think Dwight or any of the other 15 or so C's that are before him have anything to worry about. Drummond has literally been one of the worst starters in the entire NBA this season.

[MP.Trey]

Lol I knew he had no post game but I really was not expecting a near 20% FG drop whole getting pretty much the same usage as last year.

[chips93]

i read that hes taken more post up shots already this season, than he did in all of last season

[swagga]

i read that hes taken more post up shots already this season, than he did in all of last season

that's right. Stan van gundy is doing a great job developing talent while tanking. Shit, I prefer 10 drummond bricks than to see another jennings shot. That niggga should be banned from basketball.

[IGOTGAME]

oh...he coming for that spot.

[Fallen Angel]

It only took 5 years and multiple Dwight surgeries to happen.

Congrats.

[04mzwach]

Towns is on his way to the center spot in a year. Neither of them have Towns post game even this far into their careers. All that's left is achievements and neither have that many other than the dpoy.

[warriorfan]

It only took 5 years and multiple Dwight surgeries to happen.

Congrats.

Harden stans so starved for a slay they will hit up 5 year old threads comparing Andre Drummond to Dwight Howard.

:roll:

[Fallen Angel]

Multiple All-Star Game appearances, multiple All-NBA first team sections, and multiple Defensive Player of the Year awards mean nothing on ISH.

Fcking idiots

[VeeCee15]

Drummond came into league 2012? that's not 5 years can u count?

[GIF REACTION]

Demarcus has been the #1 center for 2 1/2 years now

[warriorfan]

Multiple All-Star Game appearances, multiple All-NBA first team sections, and multiple Defensive Player of the Year awards mean nothing on ISH.

Fcking idiots

Let it all out buddy. It's not Harden's fault. It's going to be ok.

:roll:

[Fallen Angel]

Andre Drummond = Deandre Jordan

He can't be the best player on a Top Three team in the Eastern Conference.

[Sportal]

It only took 5 years and multiple Dwight surgeries to happen.

Congrats.

Lol. 3 years, and he's 22 years old. Now what?

[TripleA]

Ever since Dwight went to the lakers he has not been the best center.

[Mamba]

Lol. 3 years, and he's 22 years old. Now what?
Andre Drummond is two years younger then me.. this just makes me feel really really upset.

[Sportal]

Andre Drummond is two years younger then me.. this just makes me feel really really upset.

I know right............... Detroit truly made the right decision. Then again, not much has happened to the players after Drummond. But only AD, and maybe Lillard, depending on your view, had their teams make the right choice.

Remembering that the Cavs chose Dion Waiters..

[bluechox2]

Dwight targeting that 100th spot..he sucks so bad

drummonds is top dog right now