John Wall's career high was only 25 points

[TAZORAC]

At kentucky his career high was 25 points, if the Wizards think he's going to come and be a scoring machine, they got another thing coming.

[heyhey]

John Wall is mad overrated. THe dude CAN NOT get his own shot in the half court. He's a punt returner only good in the fastbreak. His athleticism is overrated, poor jumpshot, handles is a bit shaky with his left. Washington will be dissapoint.

He's not worth the shampoo and conditioner Rubio uses on his hair.

[plowking]

Wasn't Derrick Rose's 25 as well?...

[oh the horror]

At kentucky his career high was 25 points, if the Wizards think he's going to come and be a scoring machine, they got another thing coming.



You're basing this off of what his career high was in COLLEGE BALL? REALLY?

[TAZORAC]

You're basing this off of what his career high was in COLLEGE BALL? REALLY?

No I'm basing it off the fact he has no jump shot, some may so well neither does Derrick Rose, but Rose handles the ball better and can drive to the basket at will.

[LAClipsFan33]

Gilbert Arenas career high points in a game...

Arizona : 30

NBA : 60

/Thread

[TAZORAC]

Gilbert Arenas career high points in a game...

Arizona : 30

NBA : 60

/Thread


healthy arenas is a top 5 3 point shooter, different game then Wall

[Killer_Instinct]

No I'm basing it off the fact he has no jump shot, some may so well neither does Derrick Rose, but Rose handles the ball better and can drive to the basket at will.


:oldlol:

Because shooting isn't a skill that can be worked upon and improved on throughout the course a season/career.

[cotdt]

Ricky Rubio will destroy him.

[LAClipsFan33]

healthy arenas is a top 5 3 point shooter, different game then Wall

You changed points...

Your original point was somehow having a career high of 25 in college would stop him from being an epic scorer in the NBA.

As seen with Gilbert Arenas this is not true

[Kblaze8855]

The single game scoring record(vs a D1 opponent) is held by a guy who didnt even make the NBA. Dropped 72 and didnt get drafted. Eddie House scored 61 in a college game. Bo Kimble averaged like 35ppg. Jj Reddick put up what? 28 a game? hes a role player now. Ewing was supposed to be the next bill Russell and he ended up a jump shooting scorer. Dennis rodman put up I think 27 and 20 in college one season. Scott haffner dropped 65 in a game then scored 4ppg in the NBA. Jodie Meeks had a 54 point game and did what this year?

College numbers are...at best...somewhat suggestive of what you can do in the NBA.

Shit look up Bevo Francis. Guy had about 10 games between 65 and 115 points and at most 2 people who will read this even knows who that is.

College is a place where good players can be ridden to great numbers or great winning. Sometimes both. But on a team with 5 first round picks what kind of coach would try to ride one of them enough for him to put up crazy numbers?

College numbers for a really good player is pretty much just what his system allowed.

Bo Kimble wouldnt have put up 35ppg at Duke and John Wall might have scored 25 on a no name school with a coach who would ride the one good player he had.

On a team with multiple high picks?

Why?

[highwhey]

i like the john wall dance.

[noob cake]

Ego of LeBron, skills of Duhon.

Won't work out for him. Wubio will crush him in a few years.

[tgan3]

:oldlol:

Because shooting isn't a skill that can be worked upon and improved on throughout the course a season/career.

See his pre-draft workout, he was shooting pretty well, like 10 in a row and a few with defenders contesting from just inside 3 point arc. Has pretty good mechanics too. His shot isnt as bad as made out to be.

[magnax1]

Hes a pass first point, not really a scorer. Hes knows how to take over games if they really need it though.

[Go Getter]

See his pre-draft workout, he was shooting pretty well, like 10 in a row and a few with defenders contesting from just inside 3 point arc. Has pretty good mechanics too. His shot isnt as bad as made out to be.

Are you serious. The only real knock on his game besides turns and half court efficiency [things that should get better with age] is his jumpshot.

His form looks rather flukey and his release is not consistant....and he needs to get way more lift on his shot also.

[scott0326]

Lebron didn't score a single point in college.

[alwaysunny]

His style is perfect for today's NBA system. I wouldn't be surprised if he averages more points than his college season. Look at Russell Westbrook and Tyreke Evans.

[hateraid]

Wall played on a stacked Kentucky team who feilded 5 first rounders. Of course he'll get less touches.

[chips93]

Wall isnt a shoot first point guard. He recognised in college that he had good teammates around him so he knew it was best for the team if he were a pass first point guard, but in close games where it is difficult to run plays he took over like in that uconn game, or when he made the buzzer beater pull up jumper in his first college game

[OnceInADECADE]

lol lol @ Rubio being able to crush Wall. The NBA is much more different then college ball. Dont worry bout it Wiz fan

[Go Getter]

Wall isnt a shoot first point guard. He recognised in college that he had good teammates around him so he knew it was best for the team if he were a pass first point guard, but in close games where it is difficult to run plays he took over like in that uconn game, or when he made the buzzer beater pull up jumper in his first college game


Thanks to all the pundits and fanboys he has to pretty much dominate from day one.

I don't envy the pressure this young man has on his shoulders...it's going to be fun to see all these young and talented guys jockey for position in the NBA.

[Birmingham1955]

Wall played on a stacked Kentucky team who feilded 5 first rounders. Of course he'll get less touches.
bingo

[Doranku]

What a terrible thread. What was Jordan's college career high?

[alexthegr8]

What a terrible thread. What was Jordan's college career high?

Seconded.

[Birmingham1955]

What a terrible thread. What was Jordan's college career high?

mj averaged basically 20 a game for the 3 seasons he was at UNC. I assume it would be in the mid-30s. Then he goes to the NBA and averages 28/5/6 his rookie year.

[L.Kizzle]

Comparing college ball where some scores are 62 to 64 is insane.

[steve]

What a terrible thread. What was Jordan's college career high?
You know, if we're just basing it on his freshman year (which is what we're doing for Wall), it's 21 points.

[GOBB]

Wizards drafted him to be thier future PG. Why would they be upset he's not a scoring machine? :confusedshrug:

[forensic91]

Comparing college ball where some scores are 62 to 64 is insane.

/thread

[PleezeBelieve]

The John Wall fanboys are still kicking strong.

We'll see in about 6 months.

[MeLO MvP 15]

damn ISH has made John Wall into the next NBA superstar... and just like every other superstar on this website, there are ppl who love him and ppl who think he's horrible

[JMT]

Shit look up Bevo Francis. Guy had about 10 games between 65 and 115 points and at most 2 people who will read this even knows who that is.



I have a Sportscaster card from the 70's signed by Bevo, who is a great guy and a better story. Even invited me to attend his Rio Grande College team's reunion a few years ago.

As to the OP, fortunately the Wizards know lots more about basketball than you do. Nobody was high on drafting Wall for his ability to be a "scoring machine".

Someday there will be an idiot filter to automatically delete threads like this.

[1~Gibson~1]

obviously some people dont watch College Ball. Not only was Wall on the same team as FOUR other 1st rounders, but College Ball moves at a slower pace because of the zones and there's less time (only 40 minutes).

btw, having a low career-high in college doesnt translate the same in to the pros. other posters have already proven that theory wrong (Gilbo: college-30, pros-60 etc).

and i dont think anyone thinks he's going to be a scoring machine.

[DC Zephyrs]

As KBlaze already pointed out, college stats don't really mean shit, especially when you're on a team with 4 other 1st round picks. If you look up the NCAA statistical leaders, you'll find that a lot of the top guys don't even make the NBA.

If you wanna talk college stats, why not compare Wall to the last 2 NBA ROY winners, who played under the same coach and same system in college?

Derrick Rose at Memphis: 14.9 ppg/4.5 rpg/4.7 apg
Tyreke Evans at Memphis: 17.1 ppg/5.4 rpg/3.9 apg
John Wall at Kentucky: 16.6 ppg/4.3 rpg/6.5 apg

[wang4three]

Damn Jodie Meeks dropping 54 last year, he should've gone over Blake Griffin.

[Jailblazers7]

The single game scoring record(vs a D1 opponent) is held by a guy who didnt even make the NBA. Dropped 72 and didnt get drafted. Eddie House scored 61 in a college game. Bo Kimble averaged like 35ppg. Jj Reddick put up what? 28 a game? hes a role player now. Ewing was supposed to be the next bill Russell and he ended up a jump shooting scorer. Dennis rodman put up I think 27 and 20 in college one season. Scott haffner dropped 65 in a game then scored 4ppg in the NBA. Jodie Meeks had a 54 point game and did what this year?

College numbers are...at best...somewhat suggestive of what you can do in the NBA.

Shit look up Bevo Francis. Guy had about 10 games between 65 and 115 points and at most 2 people who will read this even knows who that is.

College is a place where good players can be ridden to great numbers or great winning. Sometimes both. But on a team with 5 first round picks what kind of coach would try to ride one of them enough for him to put up crazy numbers?

College numbers for a really good player is pretty much just what his system allowed.

Bo Kimble wouldnt have put up 35ppg at Duke and John Wall might have scored 25 on a no name school with a coach who would ride the one good player he had.

On a team with multiple high picks?

Why?

Didn't Kurt Thomas also lead the nation in points and rebounds one year. Just another one your post reminded me of.

Anyway, yeah this thread is pretty stupid.

[Rasheed1]

He's a Pg....

they dont need to score like machines... they need to distribute the ball and hit a shot when needed

[Court Vision]

Michael Jordan freshman year UNC - 13.5 ppg
John Wall freshman year UK - 16.6 ppg

I guess that means John Wall will be a career 30 ppg scorer also....

What an idiotic thread.

[BrentISballin]

The retard that started this thread must have forgotten that Wall also played with Cousins, Patterson, and many other offensive threats AND they won games which is what's important granted they didn't win the championship . Put Wall on a team where he's the only weapon and he could drop 20+ a night easily.

Pass first PG's with the ability to take over is what winning NBA teams need.

[IlliniFan]

Deron Williams' high during his junior season at Illinois was only 23 and he averaged around 12 points per game. Just saying.

[scott0326]

John Wall had numerous games over 25 in his rookie year in the NBA, lol @ this thread.

[Goliath Uterus]

Damn, you literallly know nothing about basketball, do ya OP?

[Nash]

His average was still 16 ppg though..

But anyway, he will be great.