The Mighty Shamrock AC

[Real Men Wear Green]

Due to massive changes in the Cs roster, the first post is under renovation. We'll have a top-flight team breakdown within a week. OR at worst, before the season starts.

ezboard thread. (http://p089.ezboard.com/finsidehoopsfrm50.showMessage?topicID=621.topic)

[Celts34]

GB good to see getting the fam going

[Patches O'Houlihan]

Hey guys. Representing the Bean here. :D

Anyway, I don't really know who the C's are going to draft and I'm not entirely sure who I think they should draft. We have young players everywhere and I have high hopes for most of them. Although the frontcourt is dissapointing me(Al and Perk). I know they're still young but if possible I'd like to see the C's pick a big man in the draft. I think Delonte could be a solid PG for the future. He's good on D, will hit the open shot, and can create somewhat. I'm not sure when Wally's contract is up but I don't see him as a big part of the team. I see him as a roadblock for Green, Gomes, and Tony. I'd rather run a rotation of PP, Delonte, Gomes, Green, Tony, Greene, Al, Perk, Draft Pick(hopefully a big man) and maybe trade Wally and Raef for some younger guys. Or maybe just keep them so we have some vets on the team. Heh. It seems like we're kinda stuck here. It's unfortunate that it seems like we're wasting PP's prime by stinking it up.

[kwajo]

I used to love the Celtics in the 80s, and I love Pierce, so I'll give you guys props, even if I hate your young guys

[Patches O'Houlihan]

Why do you hate the young guys?

(I'm just guessing but I think it might be because sometimes they're overrated)

[kwajo]

yeah it is lol

I like Wally and Pierce though, and they young guys would be fine if they weren't hyped all the time as being the next big thing. The only one I like is Ryan Gomes, he's wicked

[Patches O'Houlihan]

Yea Gomes is great. And I agree that sometimes the young guys get overrated(especially Al) but I do have high hopes for Delonte, Perk, and Green. :D

[XxNeXuSxX]

TO be honest, I'm for trading this pick+Wally for someone solid like... Ricky Davis :D

[Real Men Wear Green]

And now that we've shown how reasonable we are by saying that everyone on the team is overrated, allow me to say, Green 17, Big Al for MVP, Paul Pierce is going to the Hall of Fame, and you wish you had someone half as talented as Gerald Green. Bitches.

[Patches O'Houlihan]

Lmao. Yea, packaging the pick with Wally for someone wouldn't be that bad. Who could we get though? I would rather get a big man and let Green/Gomes/Tony/PP be our SF/SG rotation. DEN still looking to move KMart? POR still looking to move Randolph? (Sorry, I just don't have a ton of faith in Al)
:p

[Patches O'Houlihan]

And now that we've shown how reasonable we are by saying that everyone on the team is overrated, allow me to say, Green 17, Big Al for MVP, Paul Pierce is going to the Hall of Fame, and you wish you had someone half as talented as Gerald Green. Bitches.

I still love our players but I just don't think Al will develop into an All Star. Gerald Green is going to be great though and I'm hoping he gets more time. And Paul Pierce should be a Hall of Fame lock when he retires.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Zach Randolph and Kenyon Martin are both no doubt available. For a reason. A bad reason. One badly overpaid pf that can't create offense with knee concerns, the other a good scorer with terrible d and shitty attitude. And a huge contract. Not interested.

[XxNeXuSxX]

I think we could bring over Easily Francis or Marbury for the pick alone, but I don't think Boston wants to gamble on them.

[Patches O'Houlihan]

Maybe they just need a change of scenery. :p

No I was just trying to think of players who could be available this offseason. Although if KMart's knees are good I'd do that trade. Start Delonte, Green, Pierce, KMart, Perk and run, run, run.

Or maybe not. :cool:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Possible rookie FAs. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=141988)

Shelden Williams, Patrick O'Bryant, and Mouhamed Saer Sene workout for the draft. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/draft-central/notes060306.html)

[Patches O'Houlihan]

I'd still rather trade the pick.

[Juvenile]

Just to get it, Get Bucket is Real Men Wear Green? I know that username popped up on the old board some time ago, but I never realized that this wasnt actually a new poster but someone I'd recognize with a new handle.

[Twiens]

Gerald Green is going to be a monster next year.

[Patches O'Houlihan]

Damn right. We need to give Green some damn minutes, that's why I want Wally gone.

[Juvenile]

Hope he wont, I am already sick enough of seeing his backboard alleyoop, which NBA Action sold us as the assist of the year.

[XxNeXuSxX]

You hate the player for that? Ouch.

Wally and the pick are basically necessities for a trade.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I'd still rather trade the pick.
If that pick can get us Marcus Williams, Rudy Gay, or Randy Foye I want it. If we trade the pick I want an impact-player, "star"-type or to get Raef's bad deal off the books. I wouldn't move the pick and Wally (who has a bad deal but is still an impact player) for another player on a similar level with a bad deal, like the Wally/ pick for K-Mart idea. Marcus Williams might be Mark Jackson with a jumpshot. Would you deal young Mark Jackson and Wally for K-Mart? I wouldn't.

[Patches O'Houlihan]

If that pick can get us Marcus Williams, Rudy Gay, or Randy Foye I want it. If we trade the pick I want an impact-player, "star"-type or to get Raef's bad deal off the books. I wouldn't move the pick and Wally (who has a bad deal but is still an impact player) for another player on a similar level with a bad deal, like the Wally/ pick for K-Mart idea. Marcus Williams might be Mark Jackson with a jumpshot. Would you deal young Mark Jackson and Wally for K-Mart? I wouldn't.

Neither would I. But I have high hopes for Delonte and think he has the potential to be an All-Star. He's got a great all-around game, similar to Jason Kidd, a poor man's version if you will, with a better shooting touch.

I'd rather us get an established big man though who can help PP contend sooner rather than later. Al still isn't there yet.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Neither would I. But I have high hopes for Delonte and think he has the potential to be an All-Star. He's got a great all-around game, similar to Jason Kidd, a poor man's version if you will, with a better shooting touch.

I'd rather us get an established big man though who can help PP contend sooner rather than later. Al still isn't there yet.
Love Delonte but how can you compare a guy that averages 5 assists per game (4.6 to be exact) to Jason Kidd? Plus he's an excellent shooter, while Kidd has no J, and Kidd is far ahead as a dribbler. Also, young Kidd was much faster. Probably still is. I don't see that at all.

[Patches O'Houlihan]

I was comparing his all around game to Jason Kidd's. His second year in the league and he's averaging 12-5-4. I never said he had the court vision or the quickness. I think in a couple of years he'll be a legit triple double threat.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I guess he could be a triple-double threat one day. Fair warning, though: most posters (like me) will first think of great court vision and passes when it comes to Kidd, not necessarily all-around game, so your Kidd-West comparison will probably look nutty.

[Patches O'Houlihan]

Fair enough. I'd like to stick with Delonte as our PG of the future though.

[Real Men Wear Green]

He could be, his work ethic leads me to believe he'll sufficiently develop his right hand, but Marcus Williams is a special talent and Delonte could excel as a sixth man.

[Celts34]

If that pick can get us Marcus Williams, Rudy Gay, or Randy Foye I want it. If we trade the pick I want an impact-player, "star"-type or to get Raef's bad deal off the books. I wouldn't move the pick and Wally (who has a bad deal but is still an impact player) for another player on a similar level with a bad deal, like the Wally/ pick for K-Mart idea. Marcus Williams might be Mark Jackson with a jumpshot. Would you deal young Mark Jackson and Wally for K-Mart? I wouldn't.


I think that in all honesty trading the pick wouldn't be that bad of an idea. We really need to get some more veteran leadership on this team. However if we can get Marcus Williams, which I still think we will(only team ahead of us who might take him is the Hawks. But I doubt its more likely they draft Gay or Morrison cause you know they don't have enough tweener forwards) then I don't mind keping it. And believe it or not but Marcus Williams' game reminds me of Rod Strickland.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Strickland isn't a bad comparison, especially as Marcus Williams is working to eliminate the baby fat that, along with his passing, reminds some of us of Jackson. Anyhow, whichever way he goes I'm almost certain that Williams will be an excellent point guard.

We like Shelden. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=142104)
Mark me down as someone that has not given up on Al, but I'm a fan of Shelden Williams, a pure, prototypical PF. The 7th pick may be too high for him so I doubt we get him, but he ought to be a good player. No-nonsense attitude and a great work ethic. Reminds me of a short Perk.

7'8" wingspan. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=142105)
Is it possible to not be a good rebounder with those kind of dimensions?

[WilliamPhiladelphiaSmith]

How could you evil children disrespect Big Al like that?

Guy's a stud, its just NATURAL for him to become the next great PF.

Dominated highscool.

Dominated Louisana.

Dominates Boston.

Will Dominate the world.

I expect NOTHING less than 24/12/5/4/2 on his WORST DAY.

Higher your expectations, and you'll see JEFFASUN rise to the occasion.

He needz that challenge, that opponent.

[Real Men Wear Green]

There have been Celtic articles of late, mostly centering on the 20 years since our last Championship...so I'm not linking to them. I just don't want to hear it.

Those of you that saw New England Sports Tonight on FSN saw Al's improved physique. He claims to have dropped 10 pounds (going from 270 to 260) and the new coach, Clifford Ray, is working with him on his explosiveness, rebounding technique, and other things.

[JohnnySic]

Home sweet home. :pimp:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Celtics.com fan mock draft. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/draft-central/mock-draft.html)
I voted for Hilton Armstrong #1. Why? Because I felt like it, that's why. I consider it to be their own fault for listing him.

Delonte's a nice guy. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/community/press060606-southwest-assists-delonte-pizza.html)
http://www.nba.com//media/celtics/west_pizza_party435290.jpg

[Snoopy]

people need to recognise that the celts are a sleeping giant thats threatening to straight take over the east for the next decade if everything (and everyone) pans out, west, green and jefferson all have all-star potential, pierce is gonna continue to lead the team, gomes, perk and allen are solid as they come. Add another big man through the draft and they gonna be a force in the years to come. Shaq has two years left max, detroit may collapse if they trade big ben and 'rebuild', the pacers aint what they used to be, this conference is theirs for the taking. Grab Gay in the draft, trade for an underrated big like diogu or sweetney and let em do this thing.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Now THAT'S what I'm talking about...100% pure Kool-Aid, baby. Yee-uh.

[JohnnySic]

Preach it, Snoopy! :pimp:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Leftovers. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=142983)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Redick probably won't be a Celtic. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=143640)
Well, maybe he will be one day, but not via the 7th pick in this draft. It was unlikely that we went for him anyway with Delonte being able to do most of the things he can (plus play point guard), and with his back and DUI woes, along with the canceled workout, there's very little chance we draft him at this point.

Always good to see the team is doing charitable work. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/community/061106-miles-for-miracles.html)

[Snoopy]

i love how much espn focused on the two best white players (morrison and reddick) in college basketball, without paying much attention to guys like roy, aldridge and others, and now they, in particular reddick, are falling out of favour in the draft, a few months ago morrison was a no.1 pick, till that ***** started crying before the game was finished, was i the only one who felt like even the celtics had a high enough pick i still didnt want him after seeing that? athleticism cant be taught while shooting can and thats something people need to recognise with that unco-ordinated white boy

[Real Men Wear Green]

Is all the racial stuff necessary?

Anyway, while it's nearly-impossible to turn a non-athlete into a leaper it's also rare to make a poor shooter into a Redick, and there's no way you shoot that well when you're uncoordinated. You're confusing coordination with jumping ability now.

[Put Back Dunk]

Although I don't think that Danny would have taken Redick anyway, this little incident coupled with his back pain that apparently will require surgery almost guarantee that it wont happen (hopefully :D). If we somehow end up with Marcus Williams it will make my friggin year.

[Snoopy]

its not neccessary but im just amused by espn's sometimes blind coverage of college basketball, i admit reddick is a very good shooter, but i dont think he would be worth taking of someone like brewer, yet he probably will be taken ahead of him and will not turn out to be as good a player in the nba, hahaha bold call i know but i like brewers potential and his length, at 6'7 he can play guard and foward, he should be sick

[funky2dope]

I'm a big Redick fan. He is not going to be a franchise saviour, but no-one in this draft is. What Redick needs is to be drafted by a team that has a niche necessity for perimeter shooting. I believe if he can be put in a position to be a defense spreader, maybe a teams 3rd scoring option, that he can be a excellent NBA player. I also think in this scenario he'd be able to make a contribution right away. We can knock his defensive ability, but we all also knock Gerald Greens defense and still rate him as our future. NBA standard defense has to be learned. I don't see work ethic being a major drawback for him, so he'll develop that in time. I rate Redick very highly, he will just have to hope for a good situation. I probably agree with him not being a top 10 pick, but will definitely be worthy of his eventual pick.

[Put Back Dunk]

I'm a big Redick fan. He is not going to be a franchise saviour, but no-one in this draft is. What Redick needs is to be drafted by a team that has a niche necessity for perimeter shooting. I believe if he can be put in a position to be a defense spreader, maybe a teams 3rd scoring option, that he can be a excellent NBA player. I also think in this scenario he'd be able to make a contribution right away. We can knock his defensive ability, but we all also knock Gerald Greens defense and still rate him as our future. NBA standard defense has to be learned. I don't see work ethic being a major drawback for him, so he'll develop that in time. I rate Redick very highly, he will just have to hope for a good situation. I probably agree with him not being a top 10 pick, but will definitely be worthy of his eventual pick.

I completely agree, and that's why I think he would be a prefect fit for Denver.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I think we are a bit more accepting of Gerald's defensive failings because he's got the necessary physical attributes to be turned into a great defender, and the general consensus with Celtic fans that have seen him is that if he wants to be a good defender then with a few years of experience he will be. Redick, on the other hand. is an inch or two undersized for defending shooting guards and isn't an explosive athlete. It's hard to imagine him ever successfully covering a guy like Paul Pierce.

Anyway, links:

More charity work. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/community/press060806-everybody-move-grant.html)

Antione says P may have to leave. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/06/15/walker_pierce_may_have_to_move_on/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Boston+Celtics+news)
'Toine, you know you wish you were still a Celtic. You may be right here, but if danny had offered to pay you as much as or even slightly less than what you get from the Heat, You'd be in Green.

[funky2dope]

Redick, on the other hand. is an inch or two undersized for defending shooting guards and isn't an explosive athlete. It's hard to imagine him ever successfully covering a guy like Paul Pierce.



Fair enough, but no-one is drafting JJ Redick to someday successfully guard a Paul Pierce or similar all-star. JJ will be drafted to shoot 3's. We have to remember that there are still specialist players out there. Not everyone is the potential complete player that everyone is looking for. There is a niche need for jumpshooting in basketball, just the same as rebounding or defense. Redick should be drafted on his strengths, which is perimeter shooting. To which this year he is the best available.

[Real Men Wear Green]

You don't draft Redick for anything beyond his ability to shoot/score, sure, but that's why you don';t want to spend too high of a pick on Redick. The more limited a player is...

Paul Pierce update. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/06/16/pierce_to_have_mri_on_injured_left_elbow/)
May have surgery, wants the pick put in a deal for a great player, and has heard all of his little trade rumors.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Brewer, Diaz, Noel, McGrath (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/draft-central/notes061706-workouts.html)
I like Ronnie Brewer, but am unsure of his J with that arm problem. I love the rest of his game though (has some ballhandling skills and court vision, SG size but has played pg early on in college, very fast and a good defednder). If his J can fly in the NBA (it was good in college) then he'd compliment Delonte well.

J-Will. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=144156)
And a personal fave of mine, Lynn Greer. Played every single minute for Temple a few years ago. Tough guy.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Paid Globe staff writer doesn't even know the name of Celtics' GM. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/06/18/fandemonium/?page=4)
Today, fans wait impatiently while general manager Danny Ainge shuttles players in and out of town, making it impossible for folks to grow attached to their team.Go introduce yourself to Chris Wallace sometime, buddy...Danny is running the show, though. Somewhat interesting info:
Like the Bruins, the Celts collect data on their season ticket holders. The team's executive vice president, Rich Gotham, says those holders most likely are men 36 to 55 years old with families that have incomes over $100,000 and two or three cars in a garage. Most live in the western suburbs. Celtic fans "lead active lifestyles and are more likely to have interests such as running, jogging, tennis, and golf," Gotham says. "They are more likely to invest in the stock market and real estate. They also travel and donate to charities at a higher rate than the average Massachusetts consumer. They are less likely to hunt, sew, fish, or camp out."Antoine represnts! (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/06/18/ex_celtic_is_relishing_his_workload/)
Antoine Walker stood behind his assigned podium yesterday and answered all kinds of questions, just as he has done throughout the NBA Finals. Inevitably, the questions about Dwyane Wade kept coming.

What is it like to play with someone who can score 40-plus points while injured? How much do you appreciate having a teammate who can take over on offense like that? Does Wade just amaze you with his talent? At first, Walker patiently responded to each query. Then, he finally broke and sounded slightly annoyed.

``It's nothing new," said Walker. ``I played with Paul Pierce in Boston."You ****in' tell 'em, Toine!

A moment of silence, and possibly depression. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/06/18/unforgettable_anniversary/)

[JohnnySic]

^Yep. 'Toine's the man, and he speaks the truth :pimp:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Jay Williams worked out. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=144563)
Athleticism is down, but Doc and Danny say he plays smart.

Watch this YouTube vid of Saer Sene. (http://draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1358)
You have to scroll down a little bit...and it's worth it. I'm starting to like this guy. He'll have the biggest wingspan in the NBA, and he can jump. And he's no beanpole, though not huge either. If Perk exchanged muscle for ups, you'd sort of have Sene. I admit, a highlight vid can be deceiving, bnut there's nothing fake about those long arms. If we trade down to get him I won't be mad at all. Might not even mind using the 7th pick on him, although that'd be unnecessarily high.

[Patches O'Houlihan]

You don't draft Redick for anything beyond his ability to shoot/score, sure, but that's why you don';t want to spend too high of a pick on Redick. The more limited a player is...

Paul Pierce update. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/06/16/pierce_to_have_mri_on_injured_left_elbow/)
May have surgery, wants the pick put in a deal for a great player, and has heard all of his little trade rumors.


I guess Paul feels the same way I do. Trade that damn pick.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Sort of. You wanted K-Mart; P was talking about JO and KG.

[XxNeXuSxX]

They really should get someone like Brevin for the pick though.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Big Al's at work. (http://www.milforddailynews.com/sportsNews/view.bg?articleid=94232)

[Patches O'Houlihan]

Sort of. You wanted K-Mart; P was talking about JO and KG.


I brought up KMart, JO, and KG. I actually started a topic about trying to get KG.

:no:

[insidehoops]

:no:

[Real Men Wear Green]

I brought up KMart, JO, and KG. I actually started a topic about trying to get KG.

:no:
Sorry daddy.:(

Sort of like news, but not really. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=144938)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Sort of like new, but not really. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=145109)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Randy Foye may be the top pg on team draft board. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/otherNBA/view.bg?articleid=145519)

Probably not gonna happen. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/06/26/sixers_iverson_to_celtics_its_all_just_talk/)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Draft Marcus Williams. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/articles/2006/06/27/going_straight_to_the_point/)
Dangit.

Not trading up. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/06/27/celtics_happy_with_seventh_pick____for_now/)
Danny would, however, deal for an All-Star vet. Other players would be included of course.

Sort of like news, but not really. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=145714)

Another workout. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/draft-central/notes062606-workouts.html)
Just say no to Rondo. God bless and good night...err, morning.

[JohnnySic]

The prospect of drafting Marcus Williams has grown on me.

That's assuming that none of the key guys slip, of course...

[Snoopy]

some sources are we saying that ainge is considering reaching to grab brewer at 7, i definitely think he'll be a good player but only get him if we were to trade down, and yeh williams or foye if no one slips, but if toronto dont take bargnani he could fall

[Lebowski]

Gonna be interesting tonight.
Reading the rumors that has Iverson comming our way, sounds good but I rather not pass up on players like AJ, GG to get him..
Anyway need to read up on the players in the draft dont really know anything about anyone.. hope we end up with someone/something good after tonight !

[JohnnySic]

Welcome to the new forum Lebowski! :cheers:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Speculation (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/articles/2006/06/28/plenty_of_pick_ems/)

A few of Danny's thoughts. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/06/28/ridiculing_mock_gestures/)

Reportedly still after AI. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=145960)

[XxNeXuSxX]

Wow! #7 and DAN DICKAU for AI? Do it, Danny!

[Real Men Wear Green]

No way would Philly agree to that package.

[JohnnySic]

Wow! #7 and DAN DICKAU for AI? Do it, Danny!
That would be for Telfair, not AI.

[XxNeXuSxX]

Ah, I see, my misunderstanding, I thought Portland was the third team involved, I see now they are talking about a serperate deal. :(

[Lebowski]

Welcome to the new forum Lebowski! :cheers:

Thanks ! Its good to be back after the offseason break
Been stuck following the Red Sox lately... and tonights game ala Beckett vs Pedro should continue to keep me glued to NESN ! Getting to be a good year, locked in for the playoffs ?

Anyway, if that Dan and #7 pick for Al has any truth to it Philly must be nuts and desperate. I cant beliave that it has any truth to it at all but still would not mind seeing it go thru :)

[XxNeXuSxX]

Thanks ! Its good to be back after the offseason break
Been stuck following the Red Sox lately... and tonights game ala Beckett vs Pedro should continue to keep me glued to NESN ! Getting to be a good year, locked in for the playoffs ?

Anyway, if that Dan and #7 pick for Al has any truth to it Philly must be nuts and desperate. I cant beliave that it has any truth to it at all but still would not mind seeing it go thru :)


Yep, I was wrong there, as you can see. Boston actualy did that for Sebastian Telfair. I am strongly hoping that AI can still come here.:banghead:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Still after AI. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=146112)

Welcome. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=146110)

Welcome. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/draft-central/notes062806-draft-trade.html)

[Real Men Wear Green]

More on the new point guards. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/06/29/celtics_stretch_the_point_with_telfair_rondo/)
Delonte's going to fight these guys to the death for his starting spot. Bet he keeps it, too. Barring a trade.

More on the deals. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/06/29/celtics_sitting_pretty_after_draft_day_deals/)
And as Peter May points out...Orien is probably in the NBDL or Europe next year.

[Real Men Wear Green]

More on Rajon. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/draft-central/notes022906-rondo-press.html)

Jackie McMullen argues agaibst dealing for AI. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/06/30/iverson_is_not_the_answer/)

Allen Ray will get a shot on the Summer League team. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=146295)

Leon Powe's scouting report. (http://www.truehoop.com/2006-draft-22804-2006-draft-profile-leon-powe.html)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Peter May not like AI. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/07/02/they_may_want_to_deep_six_it/)
I will agree that being late to practice in the Olympics is a major, recent black eye. However, I don't agree with the attack on AI for his teams not winning. You could say the same and worse for our own Paul Pierce. Just because a team loses doesn't mean the top player is no good. Look at the overall team he's on.

Various journalists dislike our draft day. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/07/02/assess_the_celtics_moves_on_draft_day/)

[Snoopy]

Leon Powe could end up being good, rondo would be one of the quickest players in the league, and telfair had an awesome end to his rookie season before his sophmore season was wrecked by injury, much like our own al jefferson, getting rid of dickau and lafrentz alone made that draft worthwhile, but foye and gay could both make us regret it in the long run

[Real Men Wear Green]

Free agebts unlikely. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/07/04/slim_pickins_out_there/)
Of note, Ndubi Ebi will also be on the summer league team.

More positive talking. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=146822)

A little on Leon. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=146821)
Also, a team official says we aren't sure that we want AI.

[insidehoops]

Yeah, the Celtics might be backing off from chasing Iverson. Or the Sixers are pulling back a bit

[Put Back Dunk]

It makes sense that the deal could be off though.

Financially we're very limited in the way we can acquire Iverson without giving up too much, or not offering enough to get him in the first place. I think Danny is very opposed to piling on the young guys' smaller contracts to match salaries, and throwing Scal into the mix to make up the difference isn't going to happen either. So it's gotta be a much bigger deal where both Wally and Ratliff and some of the young guys are shipped out for Iverson and another player with a mid level size contract, or it doesn't happen at all.

I'd rather not have Iverson at all than to give up on 3 or 4 of the young guys at once to land him.

[Real Men Wear Green]

To me the death of it (at least until the new acquisitions can get traded) is signing Rondo. We could have moved his rights pre-signing but now he's officially a Celtic, which means that both he and Bassy aren't movable for a few months. Philly would undoubtedly want a point guard back in the package for AI, so Delonte would have to go, along with Wally to match money and then Gerald or Al, if not both. The only good distance shooter we'd have left would be P, and maybe Gerald.

The official Summer League roster. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/summerleague/press070406-summer-league-team.html)
Anyone still think Ndubi Ebi is talented?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Delonte ain't scurred. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/notes070406-west-point.html)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Big Al's latest statistics: (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/07/06/jefferson_works_on_fitting_in/)
14 pounds lost, 11% body fat. The October goal is to lose 10 more pounds and be at 9% body fat.

Al likes Bassy. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=147107)

A glass of Kool-Aid is handed out before Gerald gets called out. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=147104)

More on Al's progress. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/summerleague/notes070506-jefferson-smaller.html)

[Celts34]

I haven't been around in a while so I don't know if I'm in the minority or not. But count me out as far as AI is concerned. Its not that I don't like his talent or heart but adding him is like putting an expensive suit on a bum who hasn't showered in years. Yeah it'll look good at first, but in the end the fact that of the matter is that what does it really mean? Will the Celtics be better next season, undoubtedly, but does it address any of the problems we had last season. AI doesn't make us any better defensively, or on the glass. Which by my account were the two largest problems the team had. Conversely he does help us lower alot of the TO problems we had.Also if Big AL is traded away, the depth in the frontcourt is not looking to good. And what are we giving up AL, Delonte, Gerald,TA, Perk, Ryan. To land AI or whoever at least two and maybe three of those guys are gone. And the more I think on this, the less I like it. If we were getting a big(say JO), I really wouldn't complain.

My largest fears are that we get AI for a year or two and become a good team(44-48 wins), but not good enough to contend or win the whole thing. Which would all but guarentee AI skipping town after his contract is done. To top that off Big Al, Gerald, and or Delonte in two years are producing at star levels somewhere else. Maybe I'm crazy and I'll be wrong, but the situation just doesn't feel right.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Options exercised on Al, Delonte, Gerald, and Bassy. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/press070606-contract-options.html)
Tony has some legal issues to clear first, unfortunately.

[JohnnySic]

Celts34, that's what I've been saying from the start. I dont like the trade if Al and/or Gerald is involved.

When Utah was the 3rd team and Wally was the main piece going, I liked it.

[Put Back Dunk]

My largest fears are that we get AI for a year or two and become a good team(44-48 wins), but not good enough to contend or win the whole thing. Which would all but guarentee AI skipping town after his contract is done. To top that off Big Al, Gerald, and or Delonte in two years are producing at star levels somewhere else. Maybe I'm crazy and I'll be wrong, but the situation just doesn't feel right.

:applause:

Great post. Also, count me in on willing to give up guys like Al and Green if we land an All Star caliber frontcourt player like JO.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Congratulations and welcome to Mr. Allan Ray. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/summerleague/press070606-allan-ray.html)
The first one of you to make a Ray Allen joke owes the rest of the Cs fam 50 push-ups, and Put Back Dunk, I mean no disrespect to you by posting your link here, I just like to catalogue all such links in one thread for the sake of reference...not saying your mad either, but some posters get offended by this sort of thing.

[Put Back Dunk]

Congratulations and welcome to Mr. Allan Ray. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/summerleague/press070606-allan-ray.html)
The first one of you to make a Ray Allen joke owes the rest of the Cs fam 50 push-ups, and Put Back Dunk, I mean no disrespect to you by posting your link here, I just like to catalogue all such links in one thread for the sake of reference...not saying your mad either, but some posters get offended by this sort of thing.

Of course it should be here too. In my eyes The Mighty Shamrock AC is the absolute holy grail of "fam" threads, plus as you said it serves as a great reference tool by cataloging everything. But, I would like to increase the push-ups to 100.

[Real Men Wear Green]

100 it is.

Another "options" article. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/07/07/celtics_exercise_options_on_04_draftees/)
I sincerely pray that Tony can get this legal stuff behind him. When healthy and focused he really is as good as any of the young players we have, and should become a fine ballplayer.

Paul Pierce feature. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/07/07/in_la_pierce_has_big_dreams/)
He'll be having surgery to take care of the bursitis. It's not a major procedure by present-day standards (although, from personal experience, when they told me my knee operation was minor and then had me on oxycodone for a half-week, aspirin for a half-month, and crutches for two months...doctors can be full of ****) but it will keep P off of Team USA. The bad side of that, of course is that P wanted a second shot at leading America to the Championship and I always want to watch him ball...but on the positive side, guys that play for their country almost inevitably have an injury-plagued season coming as an unfair reward.

[JohnnySic]

I like the Allan Ray signing. Looking ahead, it could signal that the team may try to move Delonte West in the hypothetical Iverson deal.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Danny's almost certain Tony will get off. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=147405)
At which point, he'll get his option exercised.

Danny also confident that P will be retained. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=147404)

Didn't even know what this was. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/promotions/lucky-tuesdays070706.html)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Gomes is great. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=147525)
Al had a poor night, Bassy was ok, Allan did well for himself.

I really hope Leon makes it. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=147523)
That's a hard life.

More Praise for Ryan. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=147524)

New points did alright. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/07/09/passing_marks_at_guard/)

Allan Ray feature. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/07/09/ray_ready_to_take_best_shot/)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Celticsblog game recap. (http://celticsblog.net/blog/)

Ryan Gomes feature. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/07/10/gomes_proves_hes_a_class_act/)

Agent confirms that Paul Pierce wants to stay. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=147642)
Bassy, we like you, but leave Ced's jersey up there, please. Ricky changed his, and you can, too.

[Put Back Dunk]

Bassy, we like you, but leave Ced's jersey up there, please. Ricky changed his, and you can, too.

I thought Bassy already changed his to 30 :confusedshrug:

[XxNeXuSxX]

Apparently not, that will hurt his fan support....


...Just change it..

[Real Men Wear Green]

Stein finds Al disappointing. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&id=2515040&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos1)

Gerald roasted Paul and Ricky in practice, according to Danny. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=147819)

[Snoopy]

man after reading that on powe you're right i really do hope he makes it as well, back up big for perk and al its definitely possible

[Real Men Wear Green]

Paul Pierce set to survive three years of internet trade rumors and stupid messageboard garbage. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=148007)
http://celtics.bostonherald.com/images/celtics/peirceltp07122006.jpg
Was there ever any doubt?

Al's ankle not 100% yet. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=147988)
Also, he's apparently focused on defense, not scoring, this summer.

An ass-kicking happenned. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=147989)

Someone find us the effing video. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/07/12/telfair_green_connection_a_show_stopper/)

[Real Men Wear Green]

SL loss to Denver. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/summerleague/recap-071206-celtics.html)
Al tried to do more, Bassy went into scorer mode, Gerald was hot, and Ryan? Consistent fellow.

Done deal. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=148137)

"Meaning in defeat." (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=148138)
I appreciate the effort...but that's effing corny.

[Snoopy]

rondo had ELEVEN ASSISTS! kid can play

[XxNeXuSxX]

Yay Al Finally had a good game!

[Real Men Wear Green]

P's off the team! (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/07/14/pierce_wont_be_available_for_worlds/)
Ok, that was a lame joke.

Summer league analysis (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=148322)

Approve it aleady. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=148321)
"League," whoever you are...you're on notice.

[Snoopy]

Rondo is here to play, the steal of the draft so far

[Real Men Wear Green]

Leon gets a deal. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=148436)
Congrats. Your mother's smiling down at you, keep up the good work.

Rajon balled. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=148435)

[misterdrake44]

peace,
I offer your grettings from ONE of the cities that has produced basketball greats, including your very own paul ''the truth'' pierce and leon ''the show'' powe, oakland california. I must be honest, I am not a boston fan nor am I boston hater. I will be paying more attention to the success or the team after recently acquiring the oakland legend. leon powe however. that being said, lets get down to ''reality'' ....
As a fan of the celtics, is the question not how good paul pierce is, but how good is supporting cast (delonte west, telfair, allan ray, etc) AND is that cast willing to play their parts consistently to get this to team deep into the playoffs? You see, my team is the Heat, has been since the Tim Haradway trade in 95 - I've seen a whole bunch of role players not play their roles like expected (clarence weatherspoon, harold miner, pj brown, etc) It was just never enough to get to past the knicks, it pratically took ewing retiring, john starks going to utah, and larry johnson with back issues before we could finally beat those cats. Do you havw what it takes right now to get it done? PS - leon IS the steal of the draft! I've seen the kid post surgery (1 surgery - 2 parts) put Cal on his back, score 41 points one game, set a new touney record for rebounds (22), the another game (with 22 points I might add), then get Cal to the Pac 10 final for the first time ever (school established in 1868), also got Cal to the NCAA touney for the first tims since 2003 (jason kidd, another oakland product), and finally he lead the pac 10 in scoring and rebounding 20.0ppg/10.0) - I know he's not playing for an east coast team and we all know the west gets NO respect when it comes to hoops, but that's another story. - what does the kid have to do get some respect around here?

[Celts34]

You see, my team is the Heat, has been since the Tim Haradway trade in 95 - I've seen a whole bunch of role players not play their roles like expected (clarence weatherspoon, harold miner, pj brown, etc) It was just never enough to get to past the knicks, it pratically took ewing retiring, john starks going to utah, and larry johnson with back issues before we could finally beat those cats.

I would argue with you that a bigger problem for the Heat was Zo and Monstermash continually disappearing in big games. But even with all that said the Knicks still barely squeaked by the Heat, and it could be said that in alot of those games it came down to luck. I can't think of one year the Knicks were flat-out better then the Heat. In fact if you compared their rosters for that period of time from 96-01, the Heat were far and away more talented then the Knicks. It really is a shame those Heat teams(post 98') never made one Finals.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I was a pretty big Tim Hardaway fan myself back in the '90s, though I wasn't particularly behind Miami (Celtics always here).

Clyde Frazier thinks we should make "The Trade." (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/otherNBA/view.bg?articleid=148532)

Peter May be salty. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/07/16/truth_is_pierces_deal_could_have_waited/)

Have more fun then Wyc, by all means. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/07/16/lifetime_celtics_fan_finds_it_can_be_fun_at_the_to p_too/)

Again...major congratulations to Leon Powe. (http://www.insidebayarea.com/sports/ci_4056340)
The man deserves every penny he's gonna make in the NBA, something that I wouldn't say often.

[Snoopy]

u gotta admite clyde's puma sneakers are pretty sick, maybe we should listen to him?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Even more official. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/press071706-pierce-contract.html)

Perk next? (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=148813)

[Real Men Wear Green]

LVSL video featuring cheesy 80s rock. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=iU8UM8Df8aQ&search=vegas%20summer%20league)

[XxNeXuSxX]

No more links on AI. :(

[Real Men Wear Green]

No definite, "we got him" links, no.

P's down with "the plan." (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/07/19/plan_helped_pierce_to_stay_put/)

"Better with age." (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/07/18/boston_star_wants_to_finish_career_with_celtics/)

"Celtic for life." (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=148964)

P wants AI. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=148967)
See? An AI link. Sort of.

[XxNeXuSxX]

:roll:

Close enough. Not a rumor that Danny is trying anything anymore, but it will do.


:applause:

[XxNeXuSxX]

Telfair is too short cant defend cant shoot makes stupid decisions is a big time whining cry baby:cry: :cry: and is a turnover machine. I am glad we got rid of him....he will not make it in the NBA he is totally overhyped!!! maybe Ainge will take Randolph and Miles too...:roll:

What The hell are you talking about? You are an idiot, makes stupid decisions? Did you get that by the 1mpg he was getting there in Portland? In the Summer league he was an ASSIST machine Is it because he doesn't get arrested like the rest of the Jailblazers? You realize you took a scrub in Dan Dickau and an overpaid Raef Lafrentz.


You lose.

[XxNeXuSxX]

You are wrong buddy ol' pal. I saw where Bassy had 7 TO's in one game this summer. By the way, he started in Portland. Not to mention, he was grossly outplayed by both Jarrett Jack and Steve Blake that is why he slipped to the end of the PG rotation. It was obvious that all of his teamates were irked with all of his stupid shots, and, erratic play maybe thats why he brought a gun with him on the team plane or maybe that is just because he is a moron:hammerhead: . Everyone in portland knows he sucks and is overrated as you will soon find out. Spidey rules!!

Then you must have missed all of Telfair's 10+ assist games too then eh?

[Snoopy]

hahahaahah i laugh in your face jobica, when telfair becomes a star in boston and your blazers end up with an 18-64 record but miss out on oden as your pick slide down to 4th even though you have the leauge's worst team, having said that telfair is god hahahahah

[Real Men Wear Green]

Celtics.com PP interview. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/pierce-resigns/pierce-interview071806.html)

Accompanying fluff piece. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/pierce-resigns/pierce-leader071806.html)

[JohnnySic]

You could have had Foye...
No we couldn't have. The Wolves would have drafted Foye at #6 if the Celtics-Blazers deal wasn't in place.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Eh, he was put in the NBA's toughest position (point guard) right out of high school. He's still only 21. No reason to give up on him just yet.

[JohnnySic]

OK smarty pants...You could of had Roy, Gay, or even Marcus Williams who can play circles around this schlub Telfair....
Perhaps if Ainge knew that Gay would be available at 7, he doesn't make the trade. Who knows? But I still think that Telfair will be a good player. No one is expecting him to be LeBron James though.

[Celts34]

[QUOTE][He will never be good....fair is a longshot......I predict he will be a benchwarmer in years to come......just remember these posts when he steps out onto the parkay....

Is LaFrentz really that bad????
the fans in Portland loved Dikau but,,,,,,, he was just a rookie......he has to be better than Bassy for sure./QUOTE]


I would put more credence into your analysis, if we were talking about a 26-27 year old guy. We're talking about a 20 year old kid, who depsite what you want to say has some talent. And although he did have his struggles, its just way too early to flat-out say he'll never be anything. It's pretty dumb to base the player he can be on his first two seasons in the league straight out of high school. Outside of Lebron, and Amare, what HS players have come into the league and just been dominant?

No Lafrentz isn't really all that bad at all. He'd be one of the best role players in the game, if he was making 5,6, or 7 million dollars. He's not though, he makes double that amount and for three more years. So when you look at his contributions(8-10pts, 6 boards, and a block), you'd like to get a little more for 11 million dollars.

I actually liked Dickau in his limited stint with the C's(he's a great shooter), but Doc didn't because he's slow and can't guard anyone. Which may seem inconsequential. But when you consider the fact that the C's already had a lot of problems on defense, having a guy who consistently gets beat at the point of attack really hurts.

[Real Men Wear Green]

But dude,,,,I have seen him play...I am a Blazer fan...watched every game He got nearly as much hype as Lebron, And how old is LJ. If he was so damn good he would have made some miniscule impact or had some upside. Think James is making lame excuse:confusedshrug:
Wow, so now not being Lebron is the standard? You could have watched Telfair play since junior high and I'd call that ridiculous. Bassy was (and still is) a college-age point guard playing in the NBa. Most pgs take years to be good coming out of college, and he gets judged at the ages of 18, 19, 20? Sorry, but I'm not convinced. The jury is still out on Sebastian Telfair.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Failure to perform is bad, but you're comparing him to LeBron James. I shouldn't even have to explain how silly that is, and in fact, I won't. I and many other Celtic fans are going to give him a chance before we say how good or bad he's going to be. You'll juyst have to live with us being open-minded.

[Snoopy]

well im definitely gonna be copping telfair for my fantasy team come draft time, dont know about anyone else?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Depends on how many people in the league I play in, and if I play in a league.

P likes Bassy. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=149532)

Perk getting paid? (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/07/23/perkins_in_position_for_a_bank_shot/)

[Snoopy]

he'd probably be a decent 3rd point guard in a ten team league

[Real Men Wear Green]

Congrats. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/07/27/celtics_take_a_shot_at_pittsnogle_with_two_year_co ntract/)

[Snoopy]

he was pretty good in college

[Real Men Wear Green]

Scal promotes peace in the Middle East. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/otherNBA/view.bg?articleid=151007)
Maybe we can trade him for Kofi Annan's expiring contract...ok, ok, just kidding. Good work, Brian. And by alll means, swim a few more miles.

(Boutros-Boutros, maybe?)

[XxNeXuSxX]

I honestly don't think Scal makes the 12 man roster next year....

C-Perkins
PF-Jefferson
SF-Pierce
SG-Wally
PG-Bassy
6th- Delonte
7th- Ryan Gomes
8th- Tony Allen
9th- Theo Ratliff
10th-Allan Ray
11th-Gerald Green
12th-Rajon Rondo

He's lucky to make it on the 15 man roster.

Am I wrong here?

[JohnnySic]

I cant see Scal getting too much pt if Al and Gomes are playing well. And then there's Powe too.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I honestly don't think Scal makes the 12 man roster next year....
I wouldn't put him on, but somehow I bet he makes it. If he doesn't then Doc and Danny have to admit that signing him was a colossal blunder in the first place...which it was. All he's done is injure Perk and give us that meaningless victory over the Heat that cost us the 6th pick which might have lead to us getting AI from Philly.

[Snoopy]

yeh scalabrine should be in the d league or europe by now, its remarkable that he managed to carve out an nba career

[Put Back Dunk]

I didn't see this posted yet...

Big Al has (minor, successful) ankle surgery (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/press080306-jefferson-surgery.html?rss=true)

Hopefully this means there will be no more 'Al slightly tweeked/didn't tape his ankle' stories and it will finally be fixed and heal properly.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Coach McMillan defends Sebastian. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/articles/2006/08/06/blazers_coach_plays_defense/)

[JohnnySic]

I really hope the surgery signals the end of Al's ankle woes.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Bassy takes us back to Coney. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/08/13/home_schooled/)

And now we know what was really wrong. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/08/13/jefferson_riding_out_rehab/)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Please get this over with. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=152891)

[kobedaman24]

Coach McMillan defends Sebastian. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/articles/2006/08/06/blazers_coach_plays_defense/)
Ofcourse he does. Telfair's a smart point guard. Did you see the movie/documentary "Through The Fire"? He was a beast in high school. Everybody thought he was too young to come to the NBA. Blazers will regret this trade after Telfair drops 7 dimes in their face.

[Real Men Wear Green]

C's.com Danny Ainge interview. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/ainge-interview081406.html?from=beat)

[Real Men Wear Green]

More on the bone chips. (http://www3.metrowestdailynews.com/sportsNews/view.bg?articleid=137992&format=text)

[JohnnySic]

^Good stuff. Really hoping that Al is healthy come training camp.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Offseason conditioning update. (http://www.dailynewstribune.com/sportsNews/view.bg?articleid=74865&format=&page=1)

Delonte's a good guy. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/community/delonte-west-foundation-clinic081906.html)

[four6n2]

what happened to the old page? I finally found this one two days ago. Anyway my prediction is c's win 45-50 games and win a round or two. Go c's i cannot wait till october so we get some real c's news.

[Real Men Wear Green]

We got a new board back in June or July. Welcome back.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Theo already knows what the team needs from him. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/notes090806-ratliff.html)
Good man.

[Real Men Wear Green]

More on Theo, he appears to be popular of late:
Theo says he can still play. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=156828)
More of that. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/09/10/hes_been_around_the_blocks/)
Also, players are starting to come in for training camp.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Good for Perk. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/09/12/four_more_years_for_perkins_with_celtics/)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Hope Perk isn't being naive. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=157301)
God bless him, but there might be 100 players in the NBA that he could find himself moved in a package to obtain once the 60-day (or however long) grace period runs out. I'm not sure pro sports has any kind of true "loyalty."

[JohnnySic]

Celts got a steal. Perk may be selling himself short; had he become a free agent next year, many teams would have paid him a lot more.

That said, I'm glad he's securely in green for the foreseeable future. :pimp:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Little bit on Bassy and early entry. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/09/17/the_right_shot/)

Sounds good. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=157963)
Hopefully Al can come through on the court.

[JohnnySic]

Al has worked really hard. Hopefully that ankle is back to 100%.

[BullsBigMan29]

Boston is going to love Leon Powe. He is a taller Charles Barkley and he's a monster on the boards when he was in California playing in the Pac 10.

Rondo just may be the point guard you seek, I have a feeling he will be your starting point guard.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Rondo may start one day somewhere, but the competition appears to be between Bassy and Delonte right now. I like what little I have seen and heard of Powe but after all of those knee operations I doubt he can meet the Barkley comparisons his athleticism engendered when he was in high school.

Hope you're right though.

Bassy talking positively. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=158388)

Wish Red a happy birthday. (http://eform.celtics.com/asbs/servlet/SS?F=1468574)

[JohnnySic]

He is a taller Charles Barkley
That's some pretty high praise.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Wally feels good. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=158562)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Eight Man of the Year. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=158747)
Delonte West is the Man.

[JohnnySic]

Delonte has the right attitude. :applause:

Its seeming more and more like they want Bassey as the starter and Delonte in the Ben Gordon 6th-man role.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Blog interviews Clifford Ray. (http://celticsblog.net/blog/)

[XxNeXuSxX]

It's unfortunate that Al and Perk were injured most of the offseason.

[Real Men Wear Green]

The guys are rehabbing well. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=159654)
Delonte West's back appears to be the main question mark, and odds are he'll be ok.

Doc Rivers interview. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/interview-rivers092706.html)
Most important part: says that Delonte, as the incumbent and the guy Doc is familiar and comfortable with, has the lead going into training camp for the starting PG spot, but once camp starts the competition will be open. All of which probably means nothing.

[BullsBigMan29]

Paul was better off a shooting guard and Wally should be starting Small forward

[Real Men Wear Green]

More on Doc. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=159847)
Do not read that phonetically.

[Real Men Wear Green]

The Blog now has a YouTube vid of Danny getting interviewed on FSN.

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A lot more Doc. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/01/family_doc/)

Team update. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=160146)

[Real Men Wear Green]

It's the big bad MEDIA DAY and we've got tons of stories, so we're LIN-KING!

http://images.southparkstudios.com/media/images/708/708_image_05.jpg


FABULOUS!!!

Bod Ryan with a G-Money feature. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/03/green_may_be_ready_to_grow_into_his_game/?page=full)

Pauk Pierce is still here. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=160519&format=text)
A quote I would like to draw everyone's attention to:
“Always, as a player in my position, you want more veteran presence,” said Pierce, who said he has recovered from minor offseason elbow surgery. “It helps me to do my job better, but hopefully with the addition of Theo, and guys like (Wally Szczerbiak) and (Brian Scalabrine), we’ll get enough of that this year.”
Parenthesis are used to sub in a person's name when they are referred to in a quote and the actual term used may not be matched to the player referred to. So I wonder, what did Pierce call them? Wounded Knee and Waltah Part Fat? Ok, that wasn't particularly funny and pretty negative...just compensating for the gallons of Kool-Aid these links are about to have us swallowing.

Oh, and P feels old. (http://www3.metrowestdailynews.com/sportsColumnists/view.bg?articleid=141837&format=text)

Al's new weight (again) and the triumphant return of Michael Olowakandi. (http://www.projo.com/celtics/content/projo_20061003_03celts.3306ba4.html)

Perk and Bassy guarantee the playoffs. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=160516&format=text)

Michael Olowakandi looks like a homeless man. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=160521&format=text)
There, I said it. And no, I have no regrets.

I feel like I'm linking to "Spare Change" newspaper. (http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/10-06/10-03-06/04sports.htm)

Seriously, this is excessive. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/03/olowokandi_makes_surprise_appearance/?page=full)
My favorite quote comes via Kendrick Perkins:
"I was surprised to see him," said Kendrick Perkins. "But he's talented, he knows the game, and he's a very smart player. Plus, he got his hair cut."One of the three best things Perk could think of to say ("he's a smart player" and "he knows the game" are basically the same thing) was that Kandi got his hair cut. No mention of his offensive skills or defensive presence, rebounding, etc., whatsoever. Well, at least he isn't Brian Scalibrine. If this guy gets anything above the vet minimum for 2 seasons Danny can just go ahead and fire himself.

Delonte West for Pre-i-dent! (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=160513&format=text)

Hopefully Delonte can whup them all into shape. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/02/celtics_hopes_patience_pays_off_with_youth_this_se ason/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Boston+Celtics+news)

If you spend more than 15 minutes looking at this gallery late at night, you may be... (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/bos/photos)
Uh, actually, nevermind. there's nothing wrong with that.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Kool-Aid. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2006/10/youth_making_st.html)

Tony can jump again... (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=160815)
Someone is going to have to be traded this season.

Togo! (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=160818)

Tommy likes Rondo. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/05/thus_far_point_not_lost_on_rondo/)
(Of course, Tommy likes everyone.)

"Practice? We talkin 'bout practice?" (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/04/players_off_to_running_start/)
Ok, that's not funny any more. I apologize.

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Delonte lives in his mother's basement. (http://ledger.southofboston.com/articles/2006/10/05/sports/sports05.txt)
Noone is cooler than Delonte West. Noone.

Tony is so back. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/06/whistling_while_they_work/?page=full)
(Scroll down in the link)
If we can ever get him playing smart we've got a low-tier star. Anyone else like the idea of him starting and Wally coming off the bench? Delonte or Bassy, Wally, and Ryan with Theo at PF and C should be the best bench in the Atlantic, while Tony at SG us at least one good perimeter defender in the starting unit.

Rheo VS. Perk. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=161020)

[XxNeXuSxX]

Congrats RMWG on our Modding positions! :cheers: keep up the good updates.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I'm a mod?

Oh, hey, I am. And now I'm not allowed to curse people out anymore...hmm. Alright.

Dana Barros likes Rajon Rondo. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2006/10/barros_praises.html)

Cool and all, but there is absolutely no way that Doc should let Delonte become the "odd man out." Delonte West absolutely must get pt. He's easily one of the team's 4, maybe even three, best players.

I hate smallball. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/07/they_hope_speed_thrills/)

[XxNeXuSxX]

I kind of like Smallball if it makes the team RUN for fast breaks, it's kind of lame though if we are facing the Rockets and Doc put's Wally on Yao...

BTW, GB, you should sticky this thread(Thread tools at the top, then click edit thread)

[Real Men Wear Green]

I could, but it doesn't seem so necessary. If we ever get more traffic I might.

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We're now holding hands. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/08/cs_hope_team_that_hangs_together_will_win_together/)

We are now beating the issues of Al's weight loss and undiagnosed ankle problems to death. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/08/the_skinny_is_on_his_side/)
Attention Boston Sports Media: This is no longer news, please move on.

Theo Ratliff sounds useful. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/08/ratliff_here_to_administer_the_defense/)

Delonte's finally back. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=161314)
And reportedly looked good. So far in practice, Paul Pierce (no surprise), Wally Z (not surprising either), Tony Allen and Ryan Gomes have looked the best, and Al Jefferson has had, in Doc's opinion, the two best days of his career. On a sidenote, Ronnie Lott spoke to the team and Paul Pierce wouldn't let them cut a finger off so that he can continue playing.

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Preseason starts tomorrow. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/09/a_ray_of_hope_for_this_rookie/)

Brian Scalibrine is still here. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=161466&format=&page=1)

[XxNeXuSxX]

Brian Scalibrine is still here. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=161466&format=&page=1)

NO! Can't we use the Allan Houston rule and just CUT SCAL :no:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Preseason starts today vs. Cleveland. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/10/a_first_test_for_celtics/)
Finally, we get a little bit of action. Main things to watch for are the following position battles: Sebastian Telfair vs. Rajon Rondo vs. Delonte West for PG spots (both starting as well as 2nd-string) with West having the advantage of being the incumbent but the disadvantage of coming off a minor back injury. Ryan Gomes vs. Al Jefferson for starting PF, and Theo Ratliff vs, Kendrick Perkins for starting center. There is a small chance that Tony Allen starts instead of Wally Szczerbiak but that would be for strategic purposes not related to who the overall better player is (that would be Szczerbiak).

Doc wants to see some expletive. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=161628)

[Real Men Wear Green]

A small glass of cold water to our collective faces. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=161768)
Still, Rajon Rondo did well, Gerald Green did well, Tony Allen looked ok, Sebastian Telfair was alright (although he had too many turnovers), the young bigs did well, and Michael Olowakandi played like a man that had no guarantees. On the downside, Delonte West's back is still sore, and we have no idea what to do with Brian Scalibrine.

More on Gerald Green. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=161769)
Doc Rivers needs to find the young man some minutes.

More links probably to come later, because the Globe's website has yet to put up today's Celtic coverage.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Kendrick Perkins is ready. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/11/centered_perkins_ready_to_embrace_role/)
I love how he lays down the law:


``I shouldn't average no less than eight rebounds a game, and I think I should average at least two blocks a game. That should go for me and Theo. Every game, we should at least come out with 20 or more rebounds between the both of us."

The days of Mark Blount are over, folks. New sheriff in town.

There's a starting frontcourt poll on Celtics.com (http://www.nba.com/celtics/)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Injury report. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/12/precautionary_move_szczerbiak_given_a_rest/)
Delonte West will be back on Friday.

Mark Blount, part 2? (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=161932)
Ah well...here's hoping that isn't the case, because Michael Olowakandi will probably be a Celtic this year.

Doc Rivers promises to never play Gerald Green at center again. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=161935)

[BullsBigMan29]

Gerald Green played Center why?

[Real Men Wear Green]

It was smallball taken to the extreme, because Rivers wanted to give Gerald Green some experience in a semi-clutch situation.

[Real Men Wear Green]

"Curb your enthusiasm." (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=162119)

Delonte West semi-update. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=162107)

Bryan Colangelo likes Rajon Rondo. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/13/rondo_passes_the_speed_limit/)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Paul Pierce got a hip contusion. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=162226)
Apparently not a major injury, but not good news. Likely out 3-5 days.

Luke Jackson acquired for Dwayne Jones. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=162246)
May be cut.

More on Jackson. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/14/jackson_is_left_green_after_whirlwind_day/)

[Real Men Wear Green]

12 seconds. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=162402)

Gerald Green unfeature. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/15/celtics_playing_down_high_flying_green_a_bit/)

Orien Greene's in Indiana. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/15/greener_pastures_in_indiana/)
Wish him good luck.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Delonte West gets moved to SG. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=162553&format=text)

Cuts and injuries. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/16/for_rivers_its_numbers_game_now/)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Telfair got robbed. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2630170)
And at the same club (owned by Puff Daddy) Fabolous got shot in the leg. They probably wouldn't let me in anyway, but that's one club I would not want to go to.

But at lest he played well. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/18/return_to_new_york_tests_telfair/)
Though thi should be mentioned: Stephon Marbury is one of the most apathetic defenders in the league.

Tony Allen still has no trial date. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/17/trial_date_for_allen_unresolved/)
Congrats, belated, to Tommy Heihnson.

Rajon Rondo continues to ball. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=162877)

C's Blog interview with Danny Ainge. (http://celticsblog.net/blog/?p=2326)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Next time, just come clean. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=163032)
Apparently Doc Rivers lied when he said Sebastian Telfair missed the second half with a stomach ache. In reality Telfair was looking at police lineups related to the Fabolous shooting.

More on that. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/19/police_queried_telfair/?page=1)
And apparrently Wyc Grousbeck is not pleased with how Rivers dealt with the situation...Rivers' attempt at a cover up does seem quite hair-brained in retrospect.

C's.com Rajoin Rondo fluff piece. (http://www.nba.com/celtics/beat/101706-rondo-feature.html?from=beat)

More on the Telfair mess (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=163036)

Powe played well. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=163040)
Oh yeah, there was also a game last night.

And the youth on this team did ok in it. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=163039)

Gerald Green gets revenge for Kendrick Perkins. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/19/accounting_course_at_bank/)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Lots of reaction to Telfairs' recent problems.

Paul Pierce, Doc Rivers, and Delonte West discuss security. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=163225&format=&page=1)

Rajon Rondo backstory. (http://www.eagletribune.com/sports/local_story_292160204?page=0)

That pesky Ryan Gomes continues to wreck our dreams of Al Jefferson superstardom. (http://www.telegram.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061020/NEWS/610200636/1009/SPORTS)

More on Telfair. (http://enterprise.southofboston.com/articles/2006/10/19/news/sports/sports05.txt)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Ad nauseum. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/21/telfair_celtics_trying_to_get_back_on_point/)

And Marbury adds that they pulled a gun. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=163358)

Goodbye and good luck. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=163357)
The question now is, who are the 8 players Doc Rivers sees in the rotation? My guess: Telfair, Rondo, West, Pierce, Szczerbiak, Ratliff, Gomes, and Perkins.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Ad nauseum. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/22/telfair_just_wants_to_move_on/)

Don't cut Powe. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/22/celtics_get_a_statement_game_from_powe/)

Delonte West and Al Jefferson played well. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=163526)

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No real rotation yet. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/23/no_new_spin_on_a_possible_celtics_rotation/)

For anyone interested in Luke Jackson's situation. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=163658)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Celtics don't want to cut and run. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=163871)
But if Ainge can't manufacture a trade before November, look for Luke Jackson to be the one sent packing.

"No, he's a criminal." (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=163872&format=text)

[Real Men Wear Green]

A decent showing. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=164041)
Telfair played well, Rondo was good, West was himself, and Al Jefferson now has played well in his last two outings.

Pierce is out of the preseason. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/25/its_an_unkind_cut_for_pierce/)
Infected papercut. doesn't sound major, but Paul Pierce doesn't particularly need the preseason anyway.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Probably on the trade market. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=164218)

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Luke Jackson cut. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=164386)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Locker room had to be sterilized. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/10/28/time_to_clean_house/)

[Real Men Wear Green]

As you all probably no by now, Red Auerbach passed away last night. There are lots of links out there about it, so many that I'm not going to link to them alll...just this one, which I like because it has Celtics talking about the man, instead of just a writer's praise piece:

Celtic's family remembers Red. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=164657)

Telfair's shot appears to be reliable. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=164648)

[JohnnySic]

RIP Red.:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Real Men Wear Green]

The starting line-up is set. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=165175)

On the need to finish games strong. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=165179)

"Still Green." (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=165177)

"Rebuilding." (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=165178)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Do better tonight. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=165441)

[XxNeXuSxX]

Lose again, what the hell, this is 3 times the Celtics come back and don't finish it.

[Off The Glass]

RIP Red. i got one of the new boston jerseys

[Real Men Wear Green]

And I had so badly wanted to wait until we had a win to put up something positive in the links...oh well.

Early returns not good. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/11/06/celtics_early_returns_not_good/)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Maybe he can coach? (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=166043)
Just kidding...sort of. This team badly needs to start focusing on defense. O'Brien's teams didn't provide as many entertaining plays as Rivers', but they were more successful because they defended. I don't know if Rivers can teach good defense, and so far, we haven't seen it except for a few brief spurts.

Give it to Jefferson. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=166044)
I don't think this is too hard to understand. The team needs a third scoring option and there's only one low-post threat that I can see on the squad.

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Ratliff may play. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=166283)

Hope so. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/11/08/west_due_for_breakout_game/)

[ALlArOuNDPIaya]

LOL@Celtics being ranked #30 on espn. :roll:

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Finally off the schneid. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/11/09/celtics_break_through/)

"Desperate." (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/11/09/it_took_d_to_end_losing_spell/)

Al Jefferson out 3-6 weeks. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/11/09/jefferson_has_appendectomy/)

Some idiot is threatening a dancer. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=166459)

Ratliff had an impact. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/otherNBA/view.bg?articleid=166456)

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"Opportunistic" running team. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/11/10/celtics_look_to_run_when_opportunity_knocks/)

Tony Allen needs to calm it down. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=166585)

[Lebowski]

Whoa. What a sluggish start this have been. And the game against the Cavs, oh man.
I'm gonna show some patience tho, and see if it can start to.. uhm click before I throw the towel in

[Real Men Wear Green]

Al Jefferson trying to come back soon. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/11/16/jefferson_aims_to_cut_recovery_time_after_appendix _surgery/)
Also, you may have noticed Orien Greene playing for Indy last night. Good luck to him.

Unfortunately, Ratliff will b eout for a while. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=167573)

Larry Bird likes "a lot" of the Cs' young players. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=261115002)
The question: Which ones?

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"I'm missing you like Kandi..." (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/11/17/big_problems_mounting/)
Ugh. Can Ainge get Dwayne Jones back? Ah well. I bet we see Leon Powe play some center tonight. If Perkins lands in foul trouble there won't even be an alternative to smallball. The next trade or draft pick needs to bring in some size.

Telfair's first game vs. Portland. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=167725)
Also, I think we'll be seeing Raef Lafrentz...he's not injured, I think/hope.

[Real Men Wear Green]

A month without Kandi. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/11/18/olowokandi_out_2_4_weeks/)

"That's the sound of revenge..." (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/11/18/broken_trail/)
Bonus points to anyone that can guess why I named that link that way. The points are worth nothing, by the way...perhaps I'll post a star for you in my reply, in lieu of a sticker. Hey, we have a limited budget.

I'd stand behind Perk and Powe, too. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=167846)

West finally out of his slump? (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=167847)

[XxNeXuSxX]

Well, "The Sound of Revenge" is a Chamillionaire song, are you saying it because Telfair outplayed both PG's he formerly played behind?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Actually...no.

[XxNeXuSxX]

Actually...no.
:(

[Real Men Wear Green]

No deal for Center help on the horizon. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=168028)
The team will just wait for Al Jefferson to return, hopefully within the week.

Ratliff's status in limbo. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/11/19/ratliff_seeking_relief/)

[Real Men Wear Green]

More injury woes. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=168362)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Team wants to pressure the ball. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=168472)

Praise Telfair? (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/11/22/telfairs_play_is_telling/)
Good news: Al Jefferson may play tonight.

[JohnnySic]

Wow, the C's big man rotation has been hit hard. I hope Al plays, but only if he's ready.

[XxNeXuSxX]

Al is playing tonight, so is Perk. Good news.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Ainge says Rivers' job is safe. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=169122)

Green's hitting threes. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/11/26/ainge_is_sticking_by_rivers/)
Also says he wants to be a shutdown defender.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Celtics tied for first in the Atlantic Division. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/11/28/east_teams_have_gone_south/)
I kid you not.

Perkins still aching. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/11/28/hobbled_perkins_gets_a_break_from_practice/)
He'll play though. I think/hope.

[XxNeXuSxX]

Celtics tied for first in the Atlantic Division. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/11/28/east_teams_have_gone_south/)
I kid you not.

Perkins still aching. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/11/28/hobbled_perkins_gets_a_break_from_practice/)
He'll play though. I think/hope.
:roll: Celtics are in first, amazingly pitiful. Let's hope they keep it the whole season, even if they are sub .500

[boceltballa]

The Atlantic Division is a joke. Celtics in first place with a 5-8 record? Gotta love the East! I'm just glad I'm not a Nets fan with their losing streak. If the Celtics could actually play in the 4th quarter, they would be over .500

[Real Men Wear Green]

Paul Pierce still wants Iverson. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=171210)

Celtics reportedly don't want Gerald Green involved in any AI trade. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/12/10/ainge_no_firing_in_near_future/)
Now if they can just get him without losing Al Jefferson either it will prove that Danny Ainge can do Jedi mind tricks.

Agreed, 100%. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/12/10/give_him_the_green_light/)

Here's hoping that Jefferson keeps it up. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=171340)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Szczerbiak will probably play. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/12/13/szczerbiak_gives_the_ready_signal/)

I disagree with the premise, but... (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/12/13/a_good_deal_of_motivation/)
If that's the reason he's improving, threaten to trade him every day.

[boceltballa]

Szczerbiak will probably play. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/12/13/szczerbiak_gives_the_ready_signal/)

I disagree with the premise, but... (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/12/13/a_good_deal_of_motivation/)
If that's the reason he's improving, threaten to trade him every day.

I certainly hope that isn't the reason Jefferson decided to step up his play. If it truly is the reason, then it is sad to hear that thats the only thing that'll get him going.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Hi guys, I finally updated the rankings in the first post. Any disagreements with the ratings?

[XxNeXuSxX]

Hi guys, I finally updated the rankings in the first post. Any disagreements with the ratings?
Yeah, two.

Number one, I think Gerald is really outplaying Delonte this season, and can actually catch fire (Which Delonte apparently can't do this year). Even though Doc favors him(predictably), GG should be a little higher than West.

Number two, an injured Kandi man is better than Scalabrine. Scalabrine hurts on when he is on the court, an injured Kandi cannot.

[Lebowski]

Whoa Iverson trade possible again ? Welcome to last week Lebowski. I'll say, pass on Iverson. He is a great player no doubt about that, and it would certainly give us more wins but i rather stick it out and see what Jefferson (and the rest of the young ones) can give us in the long run. I have faith in our youth and dont think that Iverson would be enough for banner #17 so then I see no reason really.

Caught one game as of late, vs the Nets, perfect game to watch I guess :) The start remembered me of a game away vs Portland, was it last season ?

Also thank you Paul for sticking it out and not crying about how horrible everything is, nor demanding a trade, loyalty, nice !

[JohnnySic]

You think about Iverson's situation and what Vince Carter did in Toronto and it makes you appreciate PP all the more. :cheers:

[Real Men Wear Green]

I may have been wrong about Tony Allen. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=172324)
I hope so.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Szczerbiak's probably out until January. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/12/17/another_sprain_for_szczerbiak/)

[XxNeXuSxX]

Awesome Szcerbiaks out!


But, five wins in a row and first place in the Atlantic doesn't hurt (http://www.nba.com/games/20061216/BOSCHA/recap.html)

[JohnnySic]

Good thing that Gomes should be back next game. They need another big.

[Put Back Dunk]

Pierce Injured (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/basketball/nba/12/21/pierce.injury/index.html)


Paul Pierce is expected to miss at least three weeks with a stress reaction in his left foot, the Celtics announced Thursday.

Damn, well I guess Gerald's going to get more PT. Time for him to step up and show why he's considered "untouchable". Also, Big Al better get the damn ball now. Over the last 6 games or so where he's played great the only times where he hasn't scored 20+ points in a game is because he wasn't given the ball a lot. Case in point last night, he had 13 points (11 boards and 3 blocks too :D) but only shot the ball 7 times.

[XxNeXuSxX]

Pierce injured? Chalk up 5 losses in a row.

[Real Men Wear Green]

This is just a hard-luck season. Fortunately, in the Atlantic a 5-game losing streak clinches the Division.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I like Gerald Green's attitude. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2006/12/23/pointing_to_the_problem/)

[braden.]

If the first team to lock down wins, you'd think Rivers might actually teach defense.

[XxNeXuSxX]

Bottomline, all throughout the offseason, were were expecting this team to run run run and run some more. Yet Doc doesn't understand that philosophy so he quit after the second game. F*ck you Doc.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I'm putting up a post here for two reasons:
1. It had fallen to page 2 (oh no!).
2. I still believe in Kendrick Perkins. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=185955)

[XxNeXuSxX]

Oh yeah, an update :pimp:

[Real Men Wear Green]

The Globe gets an "F" today. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/)
I know, the season is basically over and ATL isn't a big deal opponent, but for one of the city's two major papers to not cover a Celtics game in it's Celtics/NBA section? Guys, come on.

[XxNeXuSxX]

The Globe gets an "F" today. (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/)
I know, the season is basically over and ATL isn't a big deal opponent, but for one of the city's two major papers to not cover a Celtics game in it's Celtics/NBA section? Guys, come on.
Ended too late?

[Real Men Wear Green]

For print, that's excusable, but a website can be updated 24/7.

[XxNeXuSxX]

For print, that's excusable, but a website can be updated 24/7.
Um, this is weird, ESPN completely 'forgot' the game as well http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings

What the hell?

[Real Men Wear Green]

C's finally beat the Spurs, ending TD's streak of dominance. Yay.

Pierce considers shutting down for the season. (http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=189044)