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Se
07-07-2010, 10:23 PM
So far looking like a b*tch out there. I don't ever see this guy being an all-star.

That's all.

Sarcastic
07-07-2010, 10:25 PM
Overrated.

Tends to happen with Big Ten players.

Quata
07-07-2010, 10:25 PM
when will people ever learn that summer league performances rarely mean anything. Remember how everyone was calling Derrick Rose a bust after his summer league.

Se
07-07-2010, 10:27 PM
when will people ever learn that summer league performances rarely mean anything. Remember how everyone was calling Derrick Rose a bust after his summer league.

Not me. I was sold on him due to his natural ability and athletic ability.

Turner looks like a 3rd option, or a role player. They were going to trade Igoudala.... big mistake!

Igoudala > Turner

NuggetsFan
07-07-2010, 10:28 PM
It's just summer league but you can't help but notice. Haven't really watched Turner but Favours looks terrible so far.

wang4three
07-07-2010, 10:32 PM
Overrated.

Tends to happen with Big Ten players.
http://str8hoops.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/deron-williams-illinois.jpg

O.J A 6'4Mamba
07-07-2010, 10:38 PM
when will people ever learn that summer league performances rarely mean anything. Remember how everyone was calling Derrick Rose a bust after his summer league.

We underestimated Derrick Rose's supreme athletism to where he is more athletic than any point guard in the league and its not even close.

He can handling the rock and drive, so he can just out athlete anyone.

Guys like OJ Mayo, Brandon Roy, Joe Johnson, Kobe need supreme basketball skill to get the job done, if they aren't freak penetrators.

I haven't seen that from Turner yet, not even glimpses of it. A guy like Lance Stephenson has star written all over him though. "Born Ready"

midatlantic09
07-07-2010, 10:43 PM
I was never all that impressed with Turner's game. I think he'll be an okay player, averaging something like 18/6/5 in his prime, but I doubt he'll ever be an all-star. The Sixers would have been better off drafting Wes Johnson, Cousins, or Paul George (yes, Paul George...he's a sleeper and will probably end up one of the better players out from the 2010 draft) with the #2 pick.

T-bomb 25
07-07-2010, 10:52 PM
We underestimated Derrick Rose's supreme athletism to where he is more athletic than any point guard in the league and its not even close.

He can handling the rock and drive, so he can just out athlete anyone.

Guys like OJ Mayo, Brandon Roy, Joe Johnson, Kobe need supreme basketball skill to get the job done, if they aren't freak penetrators.

I haven't seen that from Turner yet, not even glimpses of it. A guy like Lance Stephenson has star written all over him though. "Born Ready"Yeah Stephenson is a stud,never understood,why this kid didnt go top 10,by far the biggest steal in the draft Damion James next,and my boy Butler once he heals up.

The_Yearning
07-07-2010, 10:54 PM
Lance Stephenson sucks lmao

Reverend Hoops
07-07-2010, 10:58 PM
Nets Fans I will trade you Jordan Crawford for Damion James.

entropy35
07-07-2010, 10:58 PM
Lance Stephenson is pretty good. But he can't play point.

wang4three
07-07-2010, 11:03 PM
Is this where all the people doubting Evan is going to come out? He'll be fine. The kid just has to adjust, summer league is just glorified pick up basketball.

KB2009Champ
07-07-2010, 11:08 PM
thing about turner is, its one thing to struggle but its another thing not to display any athleticism whatsoever is alarming.

Sarcastic
07-07-2010, 11:22 PM
http://str8hoops.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/deron-williams-illinois.jpg

Did I say all Big Ten players?

O.J A 6'4Mamba
07-07-2010, 11:24 PM
thing about turner is, its one thing to struggle but its another thing not to display any athleticism whatsoever is alarming.

one thing about turner is he has looked a little bit versatile. He is 6'7 has great handle, and can pass. He could very well do 5rebs and 5 assists his rookie year. The scoring and being a gamebreaker is what is concern right now.

GOBB
07-07-2010, 11:49 PM
I like people who rush to judgement over Summer League. Especially with rookies who havent played competitive basketball in damn near 3 months.

G-train
07-07-2010, 11:53 PM
Thought you knew better Senor.
Summer league literally means ZERO. NOTHING.
Some of the strangest shit in the history of human civilisation happens in the NBA summer league.

Undisputed
07-07-2010, 11:56 PM
I like people who rush to judgement over Summer League. Especially with rookies who havent played competitive basketball in damn near 3 months.
Exactly.

I'm not worried about Turner at all. I project him to take the ROY award to Philly.

Se
07-07-2010, 11:56 PM
I like people who rush to judgement over Summer League. Especially with rookies who havent played competitive basketball in damn near 3 months.

It's summer league. He should be playing much better than he currently is. I have gone back and watched a good portion of his games (as well as Favors - who has looked active, but disappointing), and he has looked very un-athletic, hesistant, and unable to create scoring opportunities for himself. He has rebounded well as expected, and he has passed the ball well, but I just don't see him as a game changer. He's no all-star.

I never make major summer league judgements, but this guy is going to disappoint. Not a Kwame or Darko kind of atomic disappointment, more of an Emeka Okafor level disappointment. Okafor maxed out his game in college, and I see Turner having done the same.

I don't see the Brandon Roy comparisons. I see a less athletic Igoudala.

midatlantic09
07-07-2010, 11:59 PM
[QUOTE=Se

I am that I am
07-08-2010, 12:08 AM
roflberry pwncakes at these kids hyping Stephenson-summer league means jack shit, Morris Almond is always the best player in it since his rookie year, I dont see him tearing up the NBA

Se
07-08-2010, 12:15 AM
roflberry pwncakes at these kids hyping Stephenson-summer league means jack shit, Morris Almond is always the best player in it since his rookie year, I dont see him tearing up the NBA

Stephenson looks like a competent scorer, but he won't be able to play point guard. His dribble is way out of control.

So far, I have liked:
Gerald Henderson
Paul George
Magnum Rolle
Terrence Williams
Damion Jones - so aggressive, and looks very competent. Can he do this on the next level? Maybe for short stretches.
Luke Harongody (though that jumper won't cut it in the NBA)
Jrue Holiday - along with New Jersey's Jones, he looks to be one of the best players at summer league.

Rekindled
07-08-2010, 12:19 AM
[QUOTE=Se

Nets fan 93
07-08-2010, 12:23 AM
twill had a terrible game today
He had nice ones the games before.
T-Will is a big time player for our summer Lg roster... He has also had some monster games in the pro level so W/E...

Se
07-08-2010, 12:34 AM
twill had a terrible game today

He played great in the 2 games prior. His usage rating is very high, and that's a good sign for player development.

GOBB
07-08-2010, 07:32 PM
[QUOTE=Se

wang4three
07-08-2010, 07:34 PM
Did I say all Big Ten players?

The only Big 10 players selected in the lottery since Deron have been Ohio State players (Oden, Conley, and Turner), so maybe you should be more specific in your statements.

ukplayer4
07-08-2010, 08:55 PM
i think hes gonna be really good, very versitile player, not great athlete obviously but hes gonna be that kind of player that can do everything well.

Se
07-09-2010, 03:42 PM
Who saw him get stripped today, then not run back down the floor. Lazy SOB.

Good luck with this guy 76er fans. I'd trade him now while he has high stock.

hateraid
07-09-2010, 03:52 PM
Jared Bayless was a stud his summer camp and was claimed the best player drafted.

It's the guys looking for spots who play their asses off and the garauntees tend to not go 100%.

Se
07-09-2010, 04:25 PM
When I play ball, I give it my all, as does anyone that really cares about the sport.

He shouldn't be showing his frustrations this way.

Think of it this way, if he blows up and becomes an amazing player, you can all rub it in my face.

At absolute best, he duplicates Igoudala's career. With less athleticism, and slightly higher skill base.

PleezeBelieve
07-09-2010, 04:42 PM
lol @ this thread. Give up your scouting job, bum.

Boogaboog
07-09-2010, 08:31 PM
I think everyone who thought this guy better than John Wall will be looking moronic come the new season.

AI3Anthony
07-09-2010, 08:51 PM
The season hasn't even started yet. STFU.

Boogaboog
07-09-2010, 09:44 PM
The season hasn't even started yet. STFU.

Hence I stated it as a prediction. Surely speculation is allowed...

mrhoopfan
07-09-2010, 09:56 PM
Stupid Ass Thread

Se
07-11-2010, 10:33 PM
John Wall 1, Evan Turner -3

GOBB
07-11-2010, 10:36 PM
Summer league always has this affect on fans.

Se
07-11-2010, 10:38 PM
Busts always have this affect on fans.

True.

ShowtimeHoops
07-11-2010, 10:54 PM
[QUOTE=Se

alexthegr8
07-11-2010, 11:04 PM
Summer league always has this affect on fans.

Agreed. I'm not saying that Turner won't be a bust relative to his draft positioning, he certainly struggled mightily in Orlando, but I'll wait a few seasons before I pass judgment on the kid. Summer league literally means nothing in the grand scheme of things, and perhaps his sluggishness was due to poor conditioning (itself a red flag, but certainly not the obstacle that a lack of athletic ability would present) or hesitation precipitated by his position change.

Jailblazers7
07-11-2010, 11:06 PM
Not worried at all. There is always an adjustment and his role on the summer league team is immensely different than what he played at Ohio State. I'll wait to see him in real game action to make any real judgements.

el gringos
07-11-2010, 11:32 PM
Told you

T-bomb 25
07-12-2010, 03:26 PM
His athletascim looks way below par,his skill set is fine,he's fine when he's making passes,but when he tries to create for himself he looks very unathletic,in somerleague you can see this if nothing else.

Se
07-12-2010, 03:30 PM
I'll bump this after each season.

Should be a good serving of crow each for a lot of you in this thread.

Rasheed1
07-12-2010, 03:32 PM
Not an issue


he hasnt played in a few months and Im sure Collins is wearing these dudes out.. I hear all the players saying they are very tired....

he'll be fine

GOBB
07-12-2010, 03:40 PM
[QUOTE=Se

The_Yearning
07-12-2010, 04:13 PM
This was a very weak draft imo...we'll see if Wall pans out.

RoseCity07
07-12-2010, 05:24 PM
I don't take much stock in summer league. Some say if you do poorly it is a bad sign, but if you do great, it still doesn't mean anything.

Roy didn't have mind blowing numbers. Some were just glad he could hold his own against Randy Foye as sad as that seems now.

By the way, there is no way that summer league court is NBA regulation. That court is smaller. The spacing in an actual NBA game will give guys like Turner more room to operate.

GOBB
07-12-2010, 05:27 PM
By the way, there is no way that summer league court is NBA regulation. That court is smaller. The spacing in an actual NBA game will give guys like Turner more room to operate.

Agreed, I told my friend they werent playing full court, just half court.

NuggetsFan
07-12-2010, 05:28 PM
[QUOTE=Se

jaydacris
07-12-2010, 05:55 PM
chris paul went 0-8 in a summer league game once, wut a sucker

DC Zephyrs
07-12-2010, 06:01 PM
Not that the summer league means much of anything, but I agree with the OP. Turner will never be an All-Star.

GOBB
07-12-2010, 06:04 PM
chris paul went 0-8 in a summer league game once, wut a sucker

For 2 years in a row Jumaine Jones avg 20ppg and i think he won MVP of the Summer League one of those years. Could be wrong but I swear he won an award one summer. I only remember this much because I found it funny he was wrecking shop but for the Sixers was a lameduck. Lookin like one of Lou Gossett sons and shyt.

OG LeeTSkeeT
07-12-2010, 06:56 PM
can lebron play in the summer league if he wanted to?

Blue&Orange
07-12-2010, 07:45 PM
so......... still no "child please" in thread? What's going on?

Se
07-15-2010, 02:27 PM
Having a lack of athleticism and heart isn't something that you can just change overnight. Turner fans will be in for a rude awakening once he starts playing meaningful games.

TheTruth11
07-15-2010, 02:45 PM
[QUOTE=Se

Jasi
07-15-2010, 03:10 PM
He'll be very good.

Se
07-15-2010, 03:21 PM
Athleticism was not Magic Johnson's game either. Size, ball handling and vision were. Turner has those. Magic was never going to out-leap anyone or break ankles, but he didn't have to. He was bigger than everyone and had the ball handling and vision of a smaller man. Not that Turner is Magic.... their is only one Magic.... but Turner brings a rare combination of size, ball handling and vision much in the same way that Magic did. Those players are rare. When you have that kind of height, ball handling and vision, it is not that necessary to have great athleticism.

And Darko Milicic is the 2nd coming of Chris Webber, right?

http://thegoldseat.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/david_kahn_photo.jpg
^Is that you?

fatboy11
07-15-2010, 03:38 PM
[QUOTE=Se

TheTruth11
07-15-2010, 03:41 PM
[QUOTE=Se

TheTruth11
07-15-2010, 03:47 PM
To be fair, you're acting like he's a complete bum athletically. He's not. He'll be fine. Joe Johnson's not a super athlete and he's an All-Star (and made All-NBA this season).

Not really sure where the comment about lacking heart is coming from.

Totally agree here. Turner is a better athlete than given credit for - especially considering his size. Plus Turner has great vision, feel for the game, body control and ball handling.

Styles p
07-15-2010, 10:18 PM
no heart? you gotta have heart to survive all the shit he went through as a kid.

G-train
07-15-2010, 10:22 PM
Turner has Roy-like poise and decision making. When his obvious skills adjust to NBA tempo (post Training camp) he will be a suberb player.

Yung D-Will
07-15-2010, 10:28 PM
Best player in the draft

Birmingham1955
07-15-2010, 10:33 PM
Best player in the draft
John wall says hi.

wang4three
07-15-2010, 10:38 PM
Since when did Turner have a lack of heart? Are we talking about the same Evan Turner that decided to come back early from a serious back injury because his team was struggling? The same Evan Turner that scored 23 of his 32 points in the second half, rallying from a 13 pt deficit against a top 5 team in Purdue AT West Lafayette? The same Evan Turner that hit a 30 ft 3 to win the game against Michigan at the Big Ten Tournament? Then carried them again through overtime against Illinois a day later? That Evan Turner?

If that doesn't register as heart, then I don't want to know what does.

Grinder
07-15-2010, 10:55 PM
Can't wait to bump this thread in a few months.

Yung D-Will
07-15-2010, 10:58 PM
John wall says hi.
7 tpg saids hi back.

And then I respond by saying horrrible fg% saids hi

alexthegr8
07-15-2010, 11:06 PM
Can't wait to bump this thread in a few months.

It does have the potential to be a doosey. <-- Is that how you spell doosey? Is doosey even an actual word?

In any event, I still believe that Turner is going to be a very good player.

Grinder
07-15-2010, 11:07 PM
7 tpg saids hi back.

And then I respond by saying horrrible fg% saids hi

Demarcus Cousins says shut the **** up.

alexthegr8
07-15-2010, 11:12 PM
7 tpg saids hi back.

And then I respond by saying horrrible fg% saids hi

Summer League as an inadequate predictor of future success says hi.

And in any event Wall has been very good so far IMO. Certainly not perfect but very good considering the circumstances (21 and 9 good while leading his team to a 3-0 record.)

NuggetsFan
07-15-2010, 11:38 PM
Demarcus Cousins says shut the **** up.

:applause:

ReturnofJPR
07-15-2010, 11:39 PM
Evan Turner is just a bad mofo from Chicago like half the league.

You know Andre Igulodala is on the way out. Evan Turner is quicker than him and actually has a 3 point shot.

Maga_1
07-16-2010, 12:11 AM
Rookie of the year, book it

Se
07-23-2010, 10:17 AM
Rookie of the year, book it

From Coach Thorpe:

20. Evan Turner, 76ers
Summer-league stats: 9.4 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 2.8 apg

Turner was, at best, a poor player in Orlando compared to any reasonable expectation -- not locked in, bad body language and poor skills. But don't get too alarmed. It's a testament to his talent that he still made plays on the glass and had some good offensive moments. I suspect that while almost every other player spent three to eight weeks before July working on their games and working out for teams, Turner did little on-court stuff. No doubt he'll look better in preseason and beyond.

Lowest ranked rookie from Summer league :)

GOBB
07-23-2010, 01:58 PM
Marcus Banks avg 42ppg. What is he doin nowadays? What team is he on? :)

bleedinpurpleTwo
07-23-2010, 02:05 PM
[QUOTE=Se

GOBB
07-23-2010, 02:13 PM
:roll:

Se
07-23-2010, 02:25 PM
BUT, per below, you just said that there is no way Philly would trade Evan Turner for arguably the best PG in the world...CP3?
:confusedshrug:

Because Philly is high on him, and they have Holiday. I really don;t think they would trade him for CP3. I would though, but alas I'm not the 76ers, so your point is moot.


:roll:

Don't get too excited. I'm not saying what I'd do, I'm saying what I think the 76ers FO would do. God knows how stupid they are.
See: Elton Brand, Samuel Dalembert, Andre Igoudala contracts.

Se
07-23-2010, 02:29 PM
Marcus Banks avg 42ppg. What is he doin nowadays? What team is he on? :)

I'm not talking about stats, GOBB. You know that. It's more so what he did physically on the court. He doesn't look like a big time player that you should get at Pick 2. If he goes on to duplicate what Eddie Jones did for his career, I'll be very surprised.

I don't need to see how Steph Curry struggled (stats-wise), or how Banks scored 42ppg.

I saw enough to know that Turner needs a lot of work, and someone needs to light a fire under his ass.

GOBB
07-23-2010, 03:13 PM
[QUOTE=Se

Grinder
07-23-2010, 03:25 PM
Plenty of big time players didnt look great in Summer League. Somehow Evan Turner is different. Maybe because you want so hard to be right.



You need to see players beast and struggle in Summer League. Trying to draw from it a projection into what kind of players they will become is silly. Evan Turner didnt beast as a freshman. Overtime he worked hard on his game, adjusted and 2 years later after his freshman year became the college player of the year, consensus #2 player in the draft.

You can sit there poking and proding what you saw. But you put more into that than other variables. And again this is Summer League. Yet somehow you have it figured out. Funny. Making a big deal out of nothing.



No one needs to light a fire under his ass. Just like you question his "heart" all wrong. You are question his work ethic and passion all wrong. Evan Turner would agree with you he played like crap and has alot to work on. Yet somehow someone needs to light a fire under his ass. :rolleyes:


Anyone that's seen Evan Turner play at OSU wouldn't question his work ethic.

Calling a guy, who hadn't played for months, based on his summer league play a bust is laughable.

Se
08-25-2010, 02:10 PM
:roll:

Kids, wanna see how to easily get a high post count? Do as GOBB does!

magnax1
08-25-2010, 06:48 PM
I made a thread like this a while ago while summer league was going on. From the day they were drafted, I said that Turner and Favors went way to high.

LT Ice Cream
10-12-2010, 08:12 PM
Watching the pre-season game against the Celtics.
Still looking like a b*tch out there.

Maga_1
10-13-2010, 03:13 AM
Anyone that's seen Evan Turner play at OSU wouldn't question his work ethic.

Calling a guy, who hadn't played for months, based on his summer league play a bust is laughable.

it's typical here

GOBB
10-13-2010, 09:33 AM
Evan Turner better start working on going left. Sixers not doing crap this year so you have all the time to experiment.

RajonKGcelts
10-13-2010, 09:39 AM
Let's just say when they drafted him I didn't mind him coming to the East. For a #2, I just feel like you have to be sure, i would of took Cousins

Ron Artest
10-13-2010, 09:56 AM
Evan Turner will be good in time. Sum of yall say BOO to those TOs but in the NBA guys with hi TO rates as youngsters gonna become ballers later on. Hi TO is a good thing for a young dog

KareemCambell
10-13-2010, 10:00 AM
he will be a solid player just give him time

DukeDelonte13
10-13-2010, 11:08 AM
he will be a solid player just give him time


this.

Bigsmoke
10-13-2010, 11:21 AM
Evan Turner should be starting for the Sixers. Iggy should be a SF and Thaddeus Young should come off the bench.

TruthKGRay3412
10-13-2010, 11:37 AM
Evan Turner should be starting for the Sixers. Iggy should be a SF and Thaddeus Young should come off the bench.

Have you watched him this preseason? He looks like a 7th man on the bench..he missed a wide open dunk last night..not a great athlete,not a great shooter,passing seems below average..but still a long way to go before hes a bust.

nycelt84
10-13-2010, 11:55 AM
I haven't been impressed in the preseason games I've seen of Turner but then again it is only the preseason. More people need to keep that in mind.

LA_Showtime
10-13-2010, 12:06 PM
Turner got off to a slow start in college too. Give him time.

Nastradamus
10-13-2010, 12:07 PM
They need to move out Iggy or Turner will never succeed. He needs shooters around him and he needs the ball a good amount. He's a Roy type.

midatlantic09
10-13-2010, 01:44 PM
Turner got off to a slow start in college too. Give him time.

#2 NBA draft picks shouldn't be given time to adjust. They're expected to come in and produce right away. You don't waste your #2 pick on someone who needs time to "develop"; especially a player who has 3 years of college ball under their belt.

That said, the Sixers should have taken Cousins with the #2 pick. Not doing so is going to come back to haunt them.

Jasi
10-13-2010, 01:55 PM
#2 NBA draft picks shouldn't be given time to adjust. They're expected to come in and produce right away. You don't waste your #2 pick on someone who needs time to "develop"; especially a player who has 3 years of college ball under their belt.

That said, the Sixers should have taken Cousins with the #2 pick. Not doing so is going to come back to haunt them.

So if he develops slowly, and after 3 years he becomes a top 5 player in the league, he's still a bust huh? Hypothetically speaking of course

broy
10-13-2010, 02:03 PM
They need to move out Iggy or Turner will never succeed. He needs shooters around him and he needs the ball a good amount. He's a Roy type.

Don't humiliate Roy.

JMT
10-13-2010, 02:08 PM
#2 NBA draft picks shouldn't be given time to adjust. They're expected to come in and produce right away. You don't waste your #2 pick on someone who needs time to "develop"; especially a player who has 3 years of college ball under their belt.

That said, the Sixers should have taken Cousins with the #2 pick. Not doing so is going to come back to haunt them.

Though I believe that Turner will be a good NBA player, I have to agree. Legit bigs come along so infrequently that I thought Cousins was the clear choice. Turner simply gives the Sixers another tweener kind of guy who's not really a great fit for the position they want him to play.

ILLsmak
10-13-2010, 02:10 PM
He's good but he's mentally weak. And he needs to not be the primary scorer. Like I said before, he could be a 2nd guy, easily, he just needs a first guy who can put up points as a shooter and he can do the dirty work and attack the rim.

It's too early to be hating. But yea he shouldn't have gone number 2... shoulda got cousins and Favors is looking like he should have gone above him, too. If you look at the roster of Philly, it's hard to imagine why they didn't pick a big.

-Smak

GOBB
10-13-2010, 05:43 PM
If Cousins isnt blocking shots then whats the point?

Favors looks like he shouldnt went ahead of Evan Turner? The guy who avg 7.5ppg 6rpg? Shooting 40% and bpg avg under 1? Ok. Cant argue that.

boozehound
10-13-2010, 05:46 PM
yeah, im definitely not convinced that he will be a good/great nba baller. definitely has the tools, but I dont see it. This team would be much better with cousins.

donsanchez306
10-13-2010, 06:31 PM
this thread is about as dumb as elton brands contract. After he has a decent game in toronto I won't come back and be like roy part 2 book it. I can't believe I had to post this. A reply to a thread is super rare for me. Its as simple as we need turner , turner needs us. I predict we trade iggy and elton @ some point go into full rebuild. Turner develops into something to build around or with. You all act like you never replied to this thread or said anything after time passes. I can see the future as well as any of you can......

33teeth
10-13-2010, 06:42 PM
I can't believe I had to post this. A reply to a thread is super rare for me.

You think pretty highly of yourself, I see. :wtf:

Anyway, we should all give the kid some time. At least let him get a half a season in before we talk about whether or not he might not develop.

donsanchez306
10-13-2010, 06:51 PM
You think pretty highly of yourself, I see. :wtf:

Anyway, we should all give



I try to value my time and I value my self, what's your point? Sorry I spend most of my time providing for my family. If I could post my opinions all the time I'd probably be just another average poster who loves his team.

G-train
10-13-2010, 07:02 PM
#2 NBA draft picks shouldn't be given time to adjust. They're expected to come in and produce right away. You don't waste your #2 pick on someone who needs time to "develop"; especially a player who has 3 years of college ball under their belt.

That said, the Sixers should have taken Cousins with the #2 pick. Not doing so is going to come back to haunt them.

Camby, Kenny Anderson, Gary Payton all took a a season or 2 to come along. And thats just in my memory. Maybe even Rik Smits.

So you just be hating son.

G-train
10-13-2010, 07:04 PM
Posters make a judgement of an NBA player based on a few PRESEASON games when all sorts of weird shit happens, instead of looking at an entire college career.

Dude hasn't even played an NBA regular season game yet, coming off an awesome college season.

Only at ISH.

Kevgb90
10-13-2010, 07:07 PM
He'll be solid. He just needs time.

mayo'sgrizz
10-13-2010, 08:38 PM
Did I say all Big Ten players?

yes pretty much but even if u didnt mean tht u can say tht bout every conference bc they all have busts.......

Posterize246
10-13-2010, 09:40 PM
double-double tonight

30 mins
13 pts (4-9)
5-5 ft
11 rebounds
2 assists
1 steal
3 TO's


it's going into OT

lilojmayo
10-13-2010, 09:54 PM
Where is all this Turner hate coming from, then I forgot I was on ISH.

Turner is going to be a really good NBA player, reps the Buckeye state well. Just nothing special, at least I don't think. Worthy of a top 3 pick though, great glue guy to a team. He can do a little bit of everything.

Styles p
10-13-2010, 10:04 PM
double-double tonight

30 mins
13 pts (4-9)
5-5 ft
11 rebounds
2 assists
1 steal
3 TO's


it's going into OT
holliday has a nice stat line.

donsanchez306
10-14-2010, 02:07 AM
double-double tonight

30 mins
13 pts (4-9)
5-5 ft
11 rebounds
2 assists
1 steal
3 TO's


it's going into OT

brandon roy pt 2 ...book it :)

Noyze
10-14-2010, 02:22 AM
this thread is about as dumb as elton brands contract. After he has a decent game in toronto I won't come back and be like roy part 2 book it. I can't believe I had to post this. A reply to a thread is super rare for me. Its as simple as we need turner , turner needs us. I predict we trade iggy and elton @ some point go into full rebuild. Turner develops into something to build around or with. You all act like you never replied to this thread or said anything after time passes. I can see the future as well as any of you can......

You spent half this post talking about yourself.

donsanchez306
10-14-2010, 09:45 AM
I love me some me

ihatetimthomas
10-14-2010, 10:09 AM
this thread is about as dumb as elton brands contract. After he has a decent game in toronto I won't come back and be like roy part 2 book it. I can't believe I had to post this. A reply to a thread is super rare for me. Its as simple as we need turner , turner needs us. I predict we trade iggy and elton @ some point go into full rebuild. Turner develops into something to build around or with. You all act like you never replied to this thread or said anything after time passes. I can see the future as well as any of you can......

Guess again buddy. Explain to me how the 76ers will be able to deal these 2 and go into full rebuild mode. Brand has 3 years and over 51 million left on his contract. Iggy has 4 years and nearly 62 million left on his deal. You are not getting any young prospects or cap relief with these players. You will only take bad contracts in return bc the value on these guys are low. You guys are stuck with these guys

SourGrapes
10-14-2010, 11:39 AM
I try to value my time and I value my self, what's your point? Sorry I spend most of my time providing for my family. If I could post my opinions all the time I'd probably be just another average poster who loves his team.

watch out! that's four posts in under 24 hours... will you still be able to provide for your family?

anyone have opinions on who i should take for a project in a keeper fantasy league- turner or wes johnson?

TennesseeFan
10-14-2010, 11:41 AM
Turner will be alright. He will kick some ass eventually. You ever see his jumpshot? Dude gets it out as quick as fvck.

donsanchez306
10-14-2010, 12:58 PM
watch out! that's four posts in under 24 hours... will you still be able to provide for your family?

anyone have opinions on who i should take for a project in a keeper fantasy league- turner or wes johnson?
I'm a railway conductor in 2011, I think we will manage. I started 2010 out of one travling bag now in 2011, the worst I can make is 62k ( if I hit the road around 95k). I'm posting from a palm pre, a couple months ago we were homeless.

LJJ
10-14-2010, 01:03 PM
He doesn't look that great yet, but I believe he will turn it around.

RaceBannana
10-14-2010, 01:12 PM
never saw anything special in him, i said it once, i will keep saying it, Demarcus Cousins was the best player from the draft followed closely by Wall, but Demarcus attitude(and the hype that JWall received) gives Wall an important edge.....

Turner is an average jumpshooter, whose main attribute is slashing to the hoop, but he had a couple of important injuries, with his current hops he won

boozehound
10-14-2010, 01:22 PM
good games from turner and jrue last night. turner will be a decent player, but never a star IMO. COusins is clearly the best player from the draft and will have the biggest impact on his squad's win % this year.

Jasi
10-14-2010, 01:23 PM
good games from turner and jrue last night. turner will be a decent player, but never a star IMO. COusins is clearly the best player from the draft and will have the biggest impact on his squad's win % this year.

I take it you don't have a great opinion on Wall?

boozehound
10-14-2010, 01:29 PM
I take it you don't have a great opinion on Wall?
I think hes good and will be solid in the league. I also think that he will have more turnovers than necc and will try and do too much with the ball. That being said, hes the best pg prospect in recent years. I just think that an offensively gifted 7' who gets great position for rebounds and is a solid athlete and defender is more of a game changer, especially on mediocre squads.


But I will admit, almost all of my favorite players are bigs.

mayo'sgrizz
10-14-2010, 01:31 PM
i think for him there will be some growing pains but i think he will alright in the end he just has to get quicker and improve ball handling and get involved!!!

donsanchez306
10-14-2010, 02:30 PM
watch out! that's four posts in under 24 hours... will you still be able to provide for your family?

anyone have opinions on who i should take for a project in a keeper fantasy league- turner or wes johnson?
I'm a conductor 2011. I think we'll manage $$$ wise , I mean we started 2010 outta luggage and homeless. Now I'm posting from my palm pre. Yaaaay me!

GOBB
10-14-2010, 02:32 PM
I'm a conductor 2011. I think we'll manage $$$ wise , I mean we started 2010 outta luggage and homeless. Now I'm posting from my palm pre. Yaaaay me!

Didnt you type that already?

SourGrapes
10-14-2010, 02:49 PM
I'm a conductor 2011. I think we'll manage $$$ wise , I mean we started 2010 outta luggage and homeless. Now I'm posting from my palm pre. Yaaaay me!

you're a horatio alger cliche

midatlantic09
12-22-2010, 11:28 PM
Another "DNP-Coach's Decision" for Mr. Turner.

Is this guy headed for the D-League?

leopoldstotch
12-22-2010, 11:34 PM
i am disappointed with turner. i thought he would be a key member of the rotation. maybe we should point at doug collins for underutilizing his talents?

cteach111
12-22-2010, 11:41 PM
Turner will be takin his talents to the D-League

GOBB
12-23-2010, 02:59 PM
maybe we should point at doug collins for underutilizing his talents?

Ummmm no.