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dyna
07-08-2010, 12:52 AM
Jul 08, 2010 12:44 AM EST

LeBron James has decided to join Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh in Miami, according to multiple sources that spoke with Newsday.

RealGM Note: The news of the 10-11 NBA salary cap being at $58.044M creates additional cap room for James, Wade and Bosh to get closer to a maximum contract.

James is scheduled to announce his final decision live on ESPN at 9:00 PM EST on Thursday.

brooks_thompson
07-08-2010, 12:53 AM
shut up

Reef
07-08-2010, 12:55 AM
http://twitter.com/alanhahn

From Alan Hahn's twitter:



Multiple sources are telling Newsday that LeBron James has decided to join Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh in Miami. The new Big Three is here.

Sarcastic
07-08-2010, 12:57 AM
He will kill his legacy if he does.

bucks_ole
07-08-2010, 12:57 AM
shutup.

It's A VC3!!!
07-08-2010, 12:58 AM
If this occurs than it is sad that LeBron and Bosh followed Wade to Miami. Good job Wade for reeling those two..

Kingwillball
07-08-2010, 12:59 AM
Man Hope Lebron doesn't take the Cowards way out..I know those are his Boys but it is Wade's Team..if they were gonna Do it should have been in a Neutral city..Anyway I love lebron will lose Respect for him to Sh!t on Clev on National TV to Announce he is a Mercenary going to Heat.

JtotheIzzo
07-08-2010, 12:59 AM
I hope this isn't true, he'll destroy himself there.

veilside23
07-08-2010, 01:00 AM
LoL. if this happens... LoL @ bosh for saying he wants to be the main centerpiece. hahahahah...

Kingwillball
07-08-2010, 01:02 AM
Wonder if it was Knicks but Heat Convinced Lebron He wouldn't have enough Help in NY and thus last minute change.

strike first
07-08-2010, 01:04 AM
i knew it..

Kingsfans818
07-08-2010, 01:04 AM
so how much more cap room for Miami to add role players? Do they have bird rights on J-O?

Sarcastic
07-08-2010, 01:05 AM
so how much more cap room for Miami to add role players?

Not much. The big 3 gonna play a lot of minutes.

FashionIssues
07-08-2010, 01:05 AM
bring it big 3... ass, mouth, and pussay.

PP34Deuce
07-08-2010, 01:05 AM
If they do this I expect the league to change to What Boston did, LA attempted to do and what MIA may be doing now(3 top 20 players)

It's A VC3!!!
07-08-2010, 01:06 AM
If this happens I would laugh forever if they still didn't win the championship :roll:

PP34Deuce
07-08-2010, 01:07 AM
Pat Riley is the magic man.... Im leaning toward MIAMI Now because Seeing the smirk that Bosh and Wade had talking about it makes it seem like things are final

Sarcastic
07-08-2010, 01:07 AM
Ric Bucher is refuting that he went to Miami, so this is probably not true:

RicBucher

Never tweeted LeBron was in Mia. A source said he was. Passed it on to the mothership. Made a 2nd call, told he was in Akron. Killed report.

highwhey
07-08-2010, 01:07 AM
BS. why!?!?!? DONT DO IT LEBRON!!!!

Kurosawa0
07-08-2010, 01:08 AM
Everybody can ***** and moan, but if this team wins, that's it. If in twenty years we're talking about Wade and LeBron being the greatest duo in NBA history how is that a bad thing?

ashbelly
07-08-2010, 01:08 AM
http://i32.tinypic.com/2d12q2e.jpg



:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Solid Snake
07-08-2010, 01:08 AM
I hope these hoe ass n1ggas win no more than 45 games next year and gets punked out in the first round of the playoffs.

R.H.C.P.
07-08-2010, 01:09 AM
Won't believe this until I read it from a legit source...

ashbelly
07-08-2010, 01:10 AM
I hope these hoe ass n1ggas win no more than 45 games next year and gets punked out in the first round of the playoffs.


wishfull thinking bro.. No gonna happen. Chips or Bust..

Cangri
07-08-2010, 01:10 AM
http://i32.tinypic.com/2d12q2e.jpg



:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Dam that would have been perfect if Lebron's number was 2 or 5 :lol

highwhey
07-08-2010, 01:10 AM
I hope these hoe ass n1ggas win no more than 45 games next year and gets punked out in the first round of the playoffs.
2nd that. i will lose respect for wade and bron.

PP34Deuce
07-08-2010, 01:10 AM
IF hes miami bound its still dwayne wades team IMO. Lebron is going to be that scottie pippen triple double guy. Wade will be taking those last minute shots. Lebron quit when he saw his team was overmatched with Boston, Wade was still fighting...

guy
07-08-2010, 01:11 AM
I dont believe it. It's not reported by anyone else.

Th3ShowMVP
07-08-2010, 01:11 AM
How long do you think Miami games will be? Like 5-6 hours? They would shoot like 100 FTs a game.

flintstone
07-08-2010, 01:11 AM
Good GOD.........8-10 rings.........millions of dollars.....he will be greater than MJ after all. (to bad I hate the guy)

Oh, and you little boys are funny..............thats why I come here.

NuggetsFan
07-08-2010, 01:11 AM
Chalmers
Wade
LeBron
Beasley
Bosh

Bench
D\League'ers?

Lebron23
07-08-2010, 01:11 AM
I hope these hoe ass n1ggas win no more than 45 games next year and gets punked out in the first round of the playoffs.


They would send Philander Jackson and Kobe Bryant into retirement, but I still don't believe that LeBron would sign with the Heat.


Ric Bucher is refuting that he went to Miami, so this is probably not true:

RicBucher

Never tweeted LeBron was in Mia. A source said he was. Passed it on to the mothership. Made a 2nd call, told he was in Akron. Killed report.


YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

ashbelly
07-08-2010, 01:12 AM
Chalmers
Wade
LeBron
Beasley
Bosh

Bench
D\League'ers?


Brendan haywood,mike miller,Pittman, varnado

PistolPete
07-08-2010, 01:13 AM
That cancer Michael Beasley will destroy that team. LeBron will get frustrated, Beasley won't call out a pick on Bosh and Bosh will dislocate an elbow. Dwyane will keep doing what he does but still fall short, and the lower bowl of that stadium will still be half empty.

Kingwillball
07-08-2010, 01:14 AM
Chalmers
Wade
LeBron
Beasley
Bosh

Bench
D\League'ers?


No I think Beasley is Gone if this Happens..Not enough touches for Him..They would be Better off getting Big Center in Haywood..

Chalmers,Wade,Lebron,Bosh,Haywood.. Rookies and D Leagers..

NY Comeback
07-08-2010, 01:14 AM
One last smokescreen before announcing the Knicks.

I'm not concerned.

R.H.C.P.
07-08-2010, 01:14 AM
Chalmers
Wade
LeBron
Beasley
Bosh

Bench
D\League'ers?

Bosh had made it clear that he does not want to play the center position. If LBJ joins the Heat, they need to get rid of Beasley. People on here are saying that Haywood is rumored to join the Heat.

ashbelly
07-08-2010, 01:15 AM
That cancer Michael Beasley will destroy that team. LeBron will get frustrated, Beasley won't call out a pick on Bosh and Bosh will dislocate an elbow. Dwyane will keep doing what he does but still fall short, and the lower bowl of that stadium will still be half empty.

Hell ****ing no.. tickets will sale like hot cakes bro..

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 01:15 AM
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa280/cashforcards/saeqw.jpg

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa280/cashforcards/saeqw.jpg

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa280/cashforcards/saeqw.jpg

Kingwillball
07-08-2010, 01:15 AM
That cancer Michael Beasley will destroy that team. LeBron will get frustrated, Beasley won't call out a pick on Bosh and Bosh will dislocate an elbow. Dwyane will keep doing what he does but still fall short, and the lower bowl of that stadium will still be half empty.

Beasley Wont be On Team..Bosh isn't playing Center..

Beebo
07-08-2010, 01:15 AM
I hope these hoe ass n1ggas win no more than 45 games next year and gets punked out in the first round of the playoffs.

this

**** the miami heat

FashionIssues
07-08-2010, 01:17 AM
already checked like beyotches defensively.

momo
07-08-2010, 01:17 AM
Chalmers
Wade
LeBron
Beasley
Bosh

Bench
D\League'ers?

Pretty much. I am no salary cap guy, but even if they get MLE $, and I have no clue if this is even possible, they are still going to be hard pressed to put together decent depth.

ashbelly
07-08-2010, 01:17 AM
Beasley Wont be On Team..Bosh isn't playing Center..


brendan haywood will play center.. they are looking to get him.

Undisputed
07-08-2010, 01:18 AM
I don't buy this report. I seriously don't see LeBron going to Miami. As Prokhorov said, it'd take away from his brand being on a team like that and competing with Miami's hero Wade in that market. Injuries have to be a concern considering the wear each one of those guys would take from grinding out minutes everynight to make up for their lack of depth.

I will say that it's not out of the realm of possibility, but I just don't see it. If he does join Miami, we have all had the wrong perception on Lebron as an egotistical control freak. Let's see how this go.

Reef
07-08-2010, 01:21 AM
One injury and they're toast.

Kingwillball
07-08-2010, 01:21 AM
I don't buy this report. I seriously don't see LeBron going to Miami. As Prokhorov said, it'd take away from his brand being on a team like that and competing with Miami's hero Wade in that market. Injuries have to be a concern considering the wear each one of those guys would take from grinding out minutes everynight to make up for their lack of depth.

I will say that it's not out of the realm of possibility, but I just don't see it. If he does join Miami, we have all had the wrong perception on Lebron as an egotistical control freak. Let's see how this go.


Yeah to Me going to Heat would be a Shocker..That would also be completely Phucked for Him to Dump Clev on National TV to be a Mercenary and Join HEAT.

Kingwillball
07-08-2010, 01:23 AM
The Header was Changed from Pics Heat to Leaning Towards Heat..So to Me there is Just more Speculation out there.

DonDadda59
07-08-2010, 01:26 AM
Good GOD.........8-10 rings.........millions of dollars.....he will be greater than MJ after all. (to bad I hate the guy).

We're talking about DWade right?

And no way Lebron is signing on to play in Miami :oldlol:

flintstone
07-08-2010, 01:27 AM
Well, If he wants rings........he's got um here (even the lakers can't win IMHO)

HiphopRelated
07-08-2010, 01:28 AM
One injury and they're toast.
except you would still have 2 top 15 players

1987_Lakers
07-08-2010, 01:29 AM
This is absolutely crazy.

LeBron-Wade-Bosh. Greatest trio in NBA history.

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 01:30 AM
You guys will lose respect for Wade, really? What is he supposed to say? "Sorry, LeBron, but we don't need you."

lakerspng
07-08-2010, 01:30 AM
This is absolutely crazy.

LeBron-Wade-Bosh. Greatest trio in NBA history.

How can you say that with the cap'n in your icon.

Magic. Kareem. Worthy. all day every day

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 01:31 AM
This is absolutely crazy.

LeBron-Wade-Bosh. Greatest trio in NBA history.

On the positive side, expect Jerry Buss's competitiveness to come out. He'll probably sign Mike Miller, T-Mac, and Shaq if it makes the Lakers chances .00001 better. :oldlol:

flintstone
07-08-2010, 01:31 AM
This is absolutely crazy.

LeBron-Wade-Bosh. Greatest trio in NBA history.

!00% agree.........nothing like it, ever!

TheKokHammer
07-08-2010, 01:31 AM
If they do this I expect the league to change to What Boston did, LA attempted to do and what MIA may be doing now(3 top 20 players)


Sad....I'll have to cheer for the Lakers...I hope they never win a ring.

ImDaBaron
07-08-2010, 01:31 AM
PDcavsinsider

Newsday has reported LeBron has decided on Heat. Only a couple of people can truly confirm this. None have to me at this point.

thejumpa
07-08-2010, 01:31 AM
You guys will lose respect for Wade, really? What is he supposed to say? "Sorry, LeBron, but we don't need you."

Exactly. Let the haters hate. LA is stacked so why can't the Heat be? Winning is what these guys care about.....not what random ISH kids yap about.

If this is true, I'm going to bump my "How to build an NBA dynasty" thread....

Lebron23
07-08-2010, 01:31 AM
This is absolutely crazy.

LeBron-Wade-Bosh. Greatest trio in NBA history.


The Legend Killers.

visirale
07-08-2010, 01:32 AM
ESPN's NBA national TV broadcast for next season:

Miami Heat 82 games
Everyone else: the 2 or 4 times they play the Miami Heat

1987_Lakers
07-08-2010, 01:33 AM
How can you say that with the cap'n in your icon.

Magic. Kareem. Worthy. all day every day

Sorry, but no.

TheKokHammer
07-08-2010, 01:33 AM
How can you say that with the cap'n in your icon.

Magic. Kareem. Worthy. all day every day


I'll take Bird, McHale, Parrish and Jordan, Pippen, Rodman over them as well....Bosh is softer than a shoeful of s***.

PistolPete
07-08-2010, 01:33 AM
You guys will lose respect for Wade, really? What is he supposed to say? "Sorry, LeBron, but we don't need you."

Just as LeBron ruins his legacy, so does Wade kind of. Wade put that championship team on his back with a bunch of role players and an aging Shaq. If they win championships together now, fans alike across the world for years to come will say it was a result of the three of them being together, and no one player doing it all as has been the story for most of the history of the NBA.

flintstone
07-08-2010, 01:33 AM
Shaq Would sign for a dollar if he could :roll:

Agent_Zero
07-08-2010, 01:34 AM
:lol this is some shit

RedBlackAttack
07-08-2010, 01:35 AM
Everybody can ***** and moan, but if this team wins, that's it. If in twenty years we're talking about Wade and LeBron being the greatest duo in NBA history how is that a bad thing?
How is it a bad thing for LeBron James to vie for being a cog in one of the 'greatest duos' in NBA history? The answer should be obvious... He has the talent to be vying for the greatest player ever, which will be put to bed if he opts for this move.

He could win seven titles with that team and questions will always remain... How good would he have been if he hadn't teamed up with arguably the second best player in the league and a Top 10 player?

PAH - THET - ICK

1987_Lakers
07-08-2010, 01:37 AM
I'll take Bird, McHale, Parrish and Jordan, Pippen, Rodman over them as well....Bosh is softer than a shoeful of s***.

Come on. You taking Pippen over Wade? Rodman over Bosh? GTFO!

As far as the 80's Lakers/Celtics trios...Kareem was past his prime once Worthy become an all-star & the #3 guy Worthy is not on Bosh's level. Sorry. And Wade > McHale & Bosh > Parish.

G-train
07-08-2010, 01:38 AM
I hope this isn't true, he'll destroy himself there.
??

NY Comeback
07-08-2010, 01:39 AM
Cmon people smarten up. NOT HAPPENING.

RedBlackAttack
07-08-2010, 01:39 AM
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa280/cashforcards/saeqw.jpg

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


That is the most accurate mock headstone I have ever seen. GriffMoney finally contributes something of value to the forum. :applause:

Lebron23
07-08-2010, 01:41 AM
Cmon people smarten up. NOT HAPPENING.


This

thejumpa
07-08-2010, 01:41 AM
RedBlackAttack.....come on, man. Don't get mad. Be happy that your hometown guy could be on to bigger and better things.

RedBlackAttack
07-08-2010, 01:42 AM
RedBlackAttack.....come on, man. Don't get mad. Be happy that your hometown guy could be on to bigger and better things.
Are you f#cking with me right now? Be happy for him?

:oldlol:

flintstone
07-08-2010, 01:42 AM
How is it a bad thing for LeBron James to vie for being a cog in one of the 'greatest duos' in NBA history? The answer should be obvious... He has the talent to be vying for the greatest player ever, which will be put to bed if he opts for this move.

He could win seven titles with that team and questions will always remain... How good would he have been if he hadn't teamed up with arguably the second best player in the league and a Top 10 player?

PAH - THET - ICK

Ya right, I'm sure he'll lose a lot of sleep over what some "Ninja" little kid in Inside Hoops thinks :roll:

He'll probably buy his own team some day.

lakerspng
07-08-2010, 01:43 AM
Come on. You taking Pippen over Wade? Rodman over Bosh? GTFO!

As far as the 80's Lakers/Celtics trios...Kareem was past his prime once Worthy become an all-star & the #3 guy Worthy is not on Bosh's level. Sorry. And Wade > McHale & Bosh > Parish.

Worthy was a much better player than Bosh. Bosh doesn't even know what it means to compete at the level the Showtime Lakers took it to.

The only player of the 3 that knows the kind of focus and determination it takes to win, is Wade.

and Pippen, Jordan and Rodman would absolutely destroy Wade, Bosh and Lebron. Pippen would make Lebron quit. Jordan would tear Wade to shreds and Rodman would hold Bosh to a total of 1 rebound. That is a complete mismatch between those two groups.

Nets fan 93
07-08-2010, 01:43 AM
Wow

Anything is better than the Knicks.
The future is looking dark though.

Reef
07-08-2010, 01:43 AM
It's bad enough we lost Bosh, but I feel really bad for Cleveland. It's a slap in the face to his home state. It's going to take them years to recover.

G-train
07-08-2010, 01:43 AM
Cavs fans are getting angry because their management screwed up their roster.

Magic/Kareem/Worthy > Lebron/Wade/Bosh

Magic is still considered an all time great.

JerrySteakhouse
07-08-2010, 01:44 AM
lol at realGM keep editting the article... now theyre saying its gonna happen unless he changes his mind.. l2ms

Kurosawa0
07-08-2010, 01:44 AM
How is it a bad thing for LeBron James to vie for being a cog in one of the 'greatest duos' in NBA history? The answer should be obvious... He has the talent to be vying for the greatest player ever, which will be put to bed if he opts for this move.

He could win seven titles with that team and questions will always remain... How good would he have been if he hadn't teamed up with arguably the second best player in the league and a Top 10 player?

PAH - THET - ICK

I just think it's a major legacy in it's own right. If LeBron and Wade team up and win six titles, they could be argued to be the greatest duo in history considering how good they are. It would surpass MJ and Scottie. That's a legacy that could stack up to Bird vs. Magic in NBA history. That's not something to be bashed or dismissed.

I still think that if LeBron and Wade start racking up rings none of this stuff matters. LeBron's legacy would be better served winning multiple titles with Wade than winning maybe one or two in Cleveland on his own.

Indian guy
07-08-2010, 01:44 AM
More sources picking this up now.


Broussard - Sources with knowledge of the situation indeed saying LeBron will join Wade and Bosh in Miami, barring a late change of heart

:(

Can't verbalize just how disappointed I'm in LeBron right now. A super trio shouldn't be his answer to 7 ring-less years. Not when he's 25 freaking years old. He's simply not going to get the type of credit he's looking for when he wins with those guys.

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 01:44 AM
so if this is true does it garontee kobe wins regular season mvp next year?


cant be howard or anyone from the east cause no one is topping the heats record

so unless the thunder win more games than LA, kobes mvp

cause it almost always comes from a #1 seed team leader

BFRESH44
07-08-2010, 01:44 AM
IF TRUE

80-2 next year....


Championship (for the next 5 years).


U MAD?????

RedBlackAttack
07-08-2010, 01:44 AM
Ya right, I'm sure he'll lose a lot of sleep over what some "Ninja" little kid in Inside Hoops thinks :roll:

He'll probably buy his own team some day.

I was watching the NBA before you were in diapers, son. Respect your elders or STFU.

It isn't about what I think, anyway. It is about a guy who is killing his legacy by ring-chasing at the ripe, old age of 25.

Pathetic on every conceivable level.

wpdougie2180
07-08-2010, 01:44 AM
Espn jusy reported it

Sarcastic
07-08-2010, 01:45 AM
If Broussard is reporting he is going to the Heat, then it is definitely not true.

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 01:46 AM
I just think it's a major legacy in it's own right. If LeBron and Wade team up and win six titles, they could be argued to be the greatest duo in history considering how good they are. It would surpass MJ and Scottie. That's a legacy that could stack up to Bird vs. Magic in NBA history. That's not something to be bashed or dismissed.

I still think that if LeBron and Wade start racking up rings none of this stuff matters. LeBron's legacy would be better served winning multiple titles with Wade than winning maybe one or two in Cleveland on his own.


they may win a couple if lucky

but they would be looked at and mocked like a pierce, garnett, allen trio

instead of worshipped

sorry bro


ring chasers get the shaft

1987_Lakers
07-08-2010, 01:46 AM
Worthy was a much better player than Bosh. Bosh doesn't even know what it means to compete at the level the Showtime Lakers took it to.

The only player of the 3 that knows the kind of focus and determination it takes to win, is Wade.

and Pippen, Jordan and Rodman would absolutely destroy Wade, Bosh and Lebron. Pippen would make Lebron quit. Jordan would tear Wade to shreds and Rodman would hold Bosh to a total of 1 rebound. That is a complete mismatch between those two groups.

lol if you really think Worthy is better than Bosh.

noob cake
07-08-2010, 01:46 AM
If they do this I expect the league to change to What Boston did, LA attempted to do and what MIA may be doing now(3 top 20 players)

Umm, 2 top 5 player, 1 top 10.

Easily better than any big 3 from LA or Bos

RedBlackAttack
07-08-2010, 01:47 AM
Newsday has reported LeBron has decided on Heat. Only a couple of people can truly confirm this. None have to me at this point.

http://twitter.com/pdcavsinsider

:confusedshrug:

FireMcFailPlease
07-08-2010, 01:47 AM
IF TRUE

80-2 next year....


Championship (for the next 5 years).


U MAD?????
nope miamis my bandwagon team. im already conceding both twolves games with yall cause itll be 75 pt blow outs:oldlol:

thejumpa
07-08-2010, 01:47 AM
Are you f#cking with me right now? Be happy for him?

:oldlol:

Yeah, be happy. Shit isn't working in Cleveland. Even you can see that. If he re-signs, it's all about loyalty....blind loyalty. As a fan of the game, I would want my favorite player/hometown player to win.

Cleveland is putting wayyyy too much faith in one player anyway. It's time for him to move on.

G-train
07-08-2010, 01:48 AM
I was watching the NBA before you were in diapers, son. Respect your elders or STFU.

It isn't about what I think, anyway. It is about a guy who is killing his legacy by ring-chasing at the ripe, old age of 25.

Pathetic on every conceivable level.

Pathetic isn't the right word. He is gonna be a top 5 player ever regardless.

Bet On Gold
07-08-2010, 01:48 AM
How is it a bad thing for LeBron James to vie for being a cog in one of the 'greatest duos' in NBA history? The answer should be obvious... He has the talent to be vying for the greatest player ever, which will be put to bed if he opts for this move.

He could win seven titles with that team and questions will always remain... How good would he have been if he hadn't teamed up with arguably the second best player in the league and a Top 10 player?

PAH - THET - ICK

Chris Bosh is not a top ten player.

1) LeBron James
2) Pau Gasol
3) Dwight Howard
4) Chris Paul
5) Kevin Durant
6) Kobe Bryant
7) Dwight Howard
8) Dwayne Wade
9) Deron Williams
10) Dirk Nowitzki

There is more players in this league I'd consider better then him as well; for example Yao Ming, possibly guys like Duncan & Pierce, Anthony is certainly a higher valued player then Bosh. What about guys like Steve Nash, who had an incredible season this past year?

I mean he is a borderline top fifteen player to me, a slightly better version then Carlos Boozer...still a heck of a player.

This duo offensively is possibly the greatest ever from a talent perspective, chemistry wise I don't think it'll as effective as a Shaq/Kobe duo; that duo had a dominant perimeter threat and a dominant low post threat. Jordan/Pippen & Rodman knew their role and were dominant defensively.

This trio has two of the best players in the league who mirror each others offensive arsenal and Bosh who loves taking those jumpers; don't get me wrong he has good low post moves but he doesn't enjoy banging inside. I don't think that will change since Toronto lacked a dominant low post presence and Bosh couldn't fill in that role as their star big.

Pau has the luxury to play with guys like Odom and Bynum, a terrific rebounder and a big body who can bang inside; Miami unless they acquire a reliable center who can bang with guys like Howard will have a lot of problems with just Bosh as their only good big man. He will get eaten alive inside, his defensive skills are no where near a Boozer or Duncan; he has a skinny frame and will get absolutely abused by a team like LA.

On paper James & Wade scare me, but if that's all they have plus Bosh, I don't see them beating a well rounded Laker team. Wade & James are amazing scorers but there is only one ball and one of them will have to sacrifice their play making ability because only one of them will be handling the ball majority of the time.

flintstone
07-08-2010, 01:48 AM
I just think it's a major legacy in it's own right. If LeBron and Wade team up and win six titles, they could be argued to be the greatest duo in history considering how good they are. It would surpass MJ and Scottie. That's a legacy that could stack up to Bird vs. Magic in NBA history. That's not something to be bashed or dismissed.

I still think that if LeBron and Wade start racking up rings none of this stuff matters. LeBron's legacy would be better served winning multiple titles with Wade than winning maybe one or two in Cleveland on his own.

Exactly :rockon: ......people knocking LBJ because he doesn't have a ring, and they don't want him to get one either.

G-train
07-08-2010, 01:49 AM
lol if you really think Worthy is better than Bosh.

Worthy was better than Bosh.

Reef
07-08-2010, 01:49 AM
Yeah, be happy. Shit isn't working in Cleveland. Even you can see that. If he re-signs, it's all about loyalty....blind loyalty. As a fan of the game, I would want my favorite player/hometown player to win.

Cleveland is putting wayyyy too much faith in one player anyway. It's time for him to move on.

They won 60 games. It was working until Delonte started banging Lebron's mama.

RedBlackAttack
07-08-2010, 01:49 AM
Yeah, be happy. Shit isn't working in Cleveland. Even you can see that. If he re-signs, it's all about loyalty....blind loyalty. As a fan of the game, I would want my favorite player/hometown player to win.

Cleveland is putting wayyyy too much faith in one player anyway. It's time for him to move on.
Here is the part you are missing... I'm a Cleveland sports fan, not a LeBron fan.

If this whole charade and attention-whoring that he has partaken in during the last month (the last three years, actually) results in him ripping our hearts out on national television tomorrow night so that he can join an all-star team and chase a ring at 25 years old, he will become absolutely despised in this state and in this city.

You need to understand that. I won't despise him, but I will deem him as a pathetic loser who I am embarrassed to have ever rooted for.

lakerspng
07-08-2010, 01:50 AM
Chris Bosh is not a top ten player.

1) LeBron James
2) Pau Gasol
3) Dwight Howard
4) Chris Paul
5) Kevin Durant
6) Kobe Bryant
7) Dwight Howard
8) Dwayne Wade
9) Deron Williams
10) Dirk Nowitzki



that's not in order I hope.

JerrySteakhouse
07-08-2010, 01:50 AM
just dont forget the true heat fans... thats the only negative about this

R.H.C.P.
07-08-2010, 01:50 AM
Jared Dudley:

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/281akc8.gif

flintstone
07-08-2010, 01:51 AM
I was watching the NBA before you were in diapers, son. Respect your elders or STFU.

It isn't about what I think, anyway. It is about a guy who is killing his legacy by ring-chasing at the ripe, old age of 25.

Pathetic on every conceivable level.

I doubt it son..........I'm 60 years old

Kevin_Garnett_5
07-08-2010, 01:51 AM
1) LeBron James
2) Pau Gasol
3) Dwight Howard
4) Chris Paul
5) Kevin Durant
6) Kobe Bryant
7) Dwight Howard
8) Dwayne Wade
9) Deron Williams
10) Dirk Nowitzki

:lol :roll: Is this a serious list?

:oldlol:

lakerspng
07-08-2010, 01:53 AM
lol if you really think Worthy is better than Bosh.

get back to me when Bosh puts up 36/16/10 in a game 7 of the finals against the bad boy Detroit Pistons and is listed as one of the 50 greatest of all time.

Sicknote
07-08-2010, 01:53 AM
dwights on it twice lol

NY Comeback
07-08-2010, 01:54 AM
Jared Dudley:

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/281akc8.gif
:roll:


If LeBron goes to Miami, I'll quit posting on Inside Hoops for good. No way this happens. :roll:

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 01:54 AM
I like it. While others may call it stupid and the easy way out, I think it's daring. Not winning multiple championships would be a complete failure. Hell, not winning the next 7 championships would be considered a disappointment. :oldlol:Plus, people would criticize those three even though the whole point of basketball is to WIN.

FashionIssues
07-08-2010, 01:58 AM
retire next year kobe. spit on these desperate faces.

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 01:58 AM
Chris Bosh is not a top ten player.

1) LeBron James
2) Pau Gasol
3) Dwight Howard
4) Chris Paul
5) Kevin Durant
6) Kobe Bryant
7) Dwight Howard
8) Dwayne Wade
9) Deron Williams
10) Dirk Nowitzki

.


switch dwight with paul and this is a perfect list

:applause:

why arnt there more people like this here?

Dbrog
07-08-2010, 01:59 AM
:lol :roll: Is this a serious list?

:oldlol:

It's obvious that it's not in order. You can't possibly make a case for Bosh being better than these guys (though he put Dwight twice). I myself have him around 17th in the league.

On a side note, what if Shaq came back for the minimum? :lol

Chalmers
Wade
Bron
Bosh
Shaq

lakerspng
07-08-2010, 01:59 AM
If he signs with Miami, I say bring it on. let's go. No hate. There's absolutely nothing wrong with joining a strong team to give yourself the best chance for success. It would also be that much sweeter for the Lakers to get their 3-peat over that "dream team".

Bet On Gold
07-08-2010, 02:00 AM
that's not in order I hope.

No I just listed ten players I consider better then Bosh.

1) LeBron James
2a) Kobe Bryant
2b) Dwayne Wade
4) Chris Paul
5) Dwight Howard
6) Kevin Durant
7) Dirk Nowitzki
8) Carmelo Anthony
9) Deron Williams
10) Pau Gasol

That's how I'd rank my top ten list.

RedBlackAttack
07-08-2010, 02:01 AM
If true, I will enjoy watching Wade and LeBron taking turns running isolation plays with the occasional dump into the post or kickout to Bosh (while everyone else on the roster stands and watches).

SMMFH

Kurosawa0
07-08-2010, 02:03 AM
I like it. While others may call it stupid and the easy way out, I think it's daring.

See, that's the thing about this. Sure, it's risky and there's a chance that it could be a disaster, but what if they succeed? As much as I think LeBron joining the Bulls wold make them the favorites in the East, no team can offer the upside Miami can. If Wade, LeBron and Bosh can find chemistry, the league could be over for the next five years. Maybe longer...

lakerspng
07-08-2010, 02:05 AM
No I just listed ten players I consider better then Bosh.

1) LeBron James
2a) Kobe Bryant
2b) Dwayne Wade
4) Chris Paul
5) Dwight Howard
6) Kevin Durant
7) Dirk Nowitzki
8) Carmelo Anthony
9) Deron Williams
10) Pau Gasol

That's how I'd rank my top ten list.

I'd put Lebron and Kobe as 1a and 1b. I don't think Lebron's superior athleticism and youth quite gives him enough ground to separate him from Kobe's work ethic, toughness and all around basketball savvy and skills. This may be the last year where that's the case though as Kobe's about to start really fighting father time.

the rest I have pretty similar though.

1a. Lebron
1b. Kobe
3. Dwade
4. Chris Paul
5. Kevin Durant
6. D Howard
7. Carmelo Anthony
8. Dirk Nowitzki
9. Deron Williams
10. Pau Gasol

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 02:06 AM
No I just listed ten players I consider better then Bosh.

1) LeBron James
2a) Kobe Bryant
2b) Dwayne Wade
4) Chris Paul
5) Dwight Howard
6) Kevin Durant
7) Dirk Nowitzki
8) Carmelo Anthony
9) Deron Williams
10) Pau Gasol

That's how I'd rank my top ten list.


didnt kobe just win back to back finals mvps at the peak of his basketball career while lebron flamed out and choked for the 7th year in a row

honestly why even play the games if the outcome doesnt matter

lebron jumps high!!!!!!!!!!! weeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OnceInADECADE
07-08-2010, 02:06 AM
No I just listed ten players I consider better then Bosh.

1) LeBron James
2a) Kobe Bryant
2b) Dwayne Wade
4) Chris Paul
5) Dwight Howard
6) Kevin Durant
7) Dirk Nowitzki
8) Carmelo Anthony
9) Deron Williams
10) Pau Gasol

That's how I'd rank my top ten list.

EXPLAIN TO ME HOW DIRK IS BETTER THAN BOSH. Pleeze no wins or team success cuz Dirk has a way better squad

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 02:07 AM
The only downside is that I think LeBron James is chasing fame, not championships.

Kurosawa0
07-08-2010, 02:07 AM
honestly why even play the games if the outcome doesnt matter

lebron jumps high!!!!!!!!!!! weeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, you'd trade Pau Gasol for Antawn Jamison? Mo Williams for Lamar Odom? Anthony Parker for Ron Artest? Shaq for Andrew Bynum?

OnceInADECADE
07-08-2010, 02:08 AM
didnt kobe just win back to back finals mvps at the peak of his basketball career while lebron flamed out and choked for the 7th year in a row

honestly why even play the games if the outcome doesnt matter

lebron jumps high!!!!!!!!!!! weeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wtf u are a cunnt bro. Kobe chocked big time too. LBJ is way superior to Kobe and its not even close

Lebron23
07-08-2010, 02:08 AM
Don't do it LeBron.

DonDadda59
07-08-2010, 02:08 AM
If true, I will enjoy watching Wade and LeBron taking turns running isolation plays with the occasional dump into the post or kickout to Bosh (while everyone else on the roster stands and watches).

SMMFH

Relax, this shit isn't happening.

Just another case of clowns w/ unnamed 'sources' making guesses and passing themselves off as journalists. When Lebron makes his decision tonight, Chris Broussard needs to hand in his 2 weeks notice to ESPN and stop wasting everyone's time.

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 02:08 AM
And please, anyone comparing the Lakers or Celtics to the potential James-Wade-Bosh pairing is kidding themselves.

Kevin_Garnett_5
07-08-2010, 02:08 AM
EXPLAIN TO ME HOW DIRK IS BETTER THAN BOSH. Pleeze no wins or team success cuz Dirk has a way better squadAre you kidding?

OnceInADECADE
07-08-2010, 02:09 AM
The only downside is that I think LeBron James is chasing fame, not championships.

no i think he wants to wins now

TennesseeFan
07-08-2010, 02:11 AM
Are you kidding?

No seriously, Dirk has a better squad than Bosh, that is generally understood.

I'd take Bosh over Dirk anyday, only because Bosh is younger and more motivated, and Dirk is a choke artist.

TennesseeFan
07-08-2010, 02:11 AM
no i think he wants to wins now

Seriously, if he was chasing fame, he wouldn't be wanting to play with Wade and Bosh, he has to share that shit.

plowking
07-08-2010, 02:13 AM
I'm sure he'll care that he lost respect with some of you while winning championships in Miami, or any where for that matter.

LOL, I love the fact Kobe fans are the ones complaining most. Everyone wants Lebron on their team, yet if your team doesn't get him and that team has a decent amount of talent, it's looked at as a ***** move? LOL.
Some of you are seriously shitting your pants at the possibility of such a tandem forming.

Kevin_Garnett_5
07-08-2010, 02:13 AM
No seriously, Dirk has a better squad than Bosh, that is generally understood.

I'd take Bosh over Dirk anyday, only because Bosh is younger and more motivated, and Dirk is a choke artist. Bosh is younger, true. But you said to explain how Dirk is better than Bosh. It goes without saying Dirk is a flat out better player.

FashionIssues
07-08-2010, 02:14 AM
Not going to happen and Wade, Bosh and the Heat will still be garbage as shit. Nice planning homies

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 02:14 AM
I'm sure he'll care that he lost respect with some of you while winning championships in Miami, or any where for that matter.

LOL, I love the fact Kobe fans are the ones complaining most. Everyone wants Lebron on their team, yet if your team doesn't get him and that team has a decent amount of talent, it's looked at as a ***** move? LOL.
Some of you are seriously shitting your pants at the possibility of such a tandem forming.

How do you feel about the team minus LeBron James?

(e)
07-08-2010, 02:14 AM
wtf u are a cunnt bro. Kobe chocked big time too. LBJ is way superior to Kobe and its not even close

Really? Why did Kobe just win the Finals?

I mean LeBron and the Cavs supposedly "had the better team" since they won more games right? LeBron and his TEAM that he LEADS didn't get it done. Kobe and his TEAM that he LEADS, did it for the second year in a row.

LeBron is the more gifted player. Kobe is the better competitor.

thejumpa
07-08-2010, 02:14 AM
Here is the part you are missing... I'm a Cleveland sports fan, not a LeBron fan.

If this whole charade and attention-whoring that he has partaken in during the last month (the last three years, actually) results in him ripping our hearts out on national television tomorrow night so that he can join an all-star team and chase a ring at 25 years old, he will become absolutely despised in this state and in this city.

You need to understand that. I won't despise him, but I will deem him as a pathetic loser who I am embarrassed to have ever rooted for.

You are taking it wayyyyy too far. Chasing a ring? Please. Dude wants to win and have a legacy as a winner. Every player "chases" a ring. That's the objective...especially if you are a superstar who gets paid a shitload anyway.

I agree that he's an attention whore. But you know what? I bet you still supported him as a basketball the last 3 years. I bet you hoped the Cavs won the title the last 3 years. I mean, you act like the planned this whole thing 3 years ago. Shit aint working in Cleveland...what do you expect him to do? Seriously question.

If you are a Cleveland sports fan, then quit coming down so hard on the guy. Criticize your organization for basically patchworking for years and setting themselves up for moments like these. Honestly, it sounds like you want the guy to win a ring in Cleveland but no where else.

R.H.C.P.
07-08-2010, 02:18 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5363055

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 02:18 AM
Honestly, does LeBron James even have a choice? He wants to win a ring. That's not going to happen in Cleveland, Chicago, New York, or New Jersey. He can't go to the Mavericks, Lakers, Spurs, or any team without cap space because the Cavaliers don't want to sign and trade him. His only option, and I think he realizes it, is to sign with the Heat and form what is potentially the scariest, most dominant dynasty of all-time.

The only downside is that joining Wade and Bosh might stunt his growth as a player. I want him to be more fundamentally sound but that might not happen in Miami.

Take Your Lumps
07-08-2010, 02:19 AM
Sounds like lebron's handlers drumming up suspense leading up to "The Decision".

Wake me up when this shit is over.....

G-train
07-08-2010, 02:19 AM
Not going to happen and Wade, Bosh and the Heat will still be garbage as shit. Nice planning homies

A very poor post from a normally respectable poster.

It's impossible to judge until the roster is complete. Pat Riley is a smart dude.

JustinJDW
07-08-2010, 02:19 AM
If this shit really goes down, and Lebron goes to Miami, the threads that will be created next Season will be beyond description.

plowking
07-08-2010, 02:19 AM
How do you feel about the team minus LeBron James?

Feel like we've done well. I like Chris Bosh and am glad to have him on the team. Feel like we could compete for a championship if we get some other nice players around these two.

RedBlackAttack
07-08-2010, 02:20 AM
Relax, this shit isn't happening.

Just another case of clowns w/ unnamed 'sources' making guesses and passing themselves off as journalists. When Lebron makes his decision tonight, Chris Broussard needs to hand in his 2 weeks notice to ESPN and stop wasting everyone's time.
As a member of the journalism field, he gives us all a bad name. Broussard has basically broken every rule of good journalism over the last month or so. It is an embarrassment.

He now says on SportsCenter: "Heat and Cavs are front-runners."

Backtracking already, eh Chris? What an incredible fiasco this has turned into.

Rocker09
07-08-2010, 02:20 AM
If this happens, next season should be fun............

Kurosawa0
07-08-2010, 02:20 AM
I'm sure he'll care that he lost respect with some of you while winning championships in Miami, or any where for that matter.

LOL, I love the fact Kobe fans are the ones complaining most. Everyone wants Lebron on their team, yet if your team doesn't get him and that team has a decent amount of talent, it's looked at as a ***** move? LOL.
Some of you are seriously shitting your pants at the possibility of such a tandem forming.

Oddly, I think it's kind of similar to the Lakers' situation. People talk themselves into lesser teams being able to beat the Lakers all the time, but at the end of the day the talent wins out. It was the same thing with Boston.

At the end of the day, how many teams will really be able to handle LeBron, Wade and Bosh? I kept thinking "Well, Kobe can check Wade, Ron can get LeBron and Pau can get Bosh." Still, that feels like that's BS. Seriously, how do stop LeBron and Wade together? That could be the question every team is asking for the next five years. We're talking about the two best players on the 2008 Olympic team.

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 02:21 AM
If this shit really goes down, and Lebron goes to Miami, the threads that will be created next Season will be beyond description.

Yup. And seriously, aside from the Lakers and Magic, what the hell are other teams supposed to do? They have no shot at winning a championship. There's a good chance that the rich get richer if this actually happens.

plowking
07-08-2010, 02:21 AM
Not going to happen and Wade, Bosh and the Heat will still be garbage as shit. Nice planning homies

I love it. You can always tell who the dumbass Laker fans are in times like these.

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 02:22 AM
Oddly, I think it's kind of similar to the Lakers' situation. People talk themselves into lesser teams being able to beat the Lakers all the time, but at the end of the day the talent wins out. It was the same thing with Boston.

At the end of the day, how many teams will really be able to handle LeBron, Wade and Bosh? I kept thinking "Well, Kobe can check Wade, Ron can get LeBron and Pau can get Bosh." Still, that feels like that's BS. Seriously, how do stop LeBron and Wade together? That could be the question every team is asking for the next five years. We're talking about the two best players on the 2008 Olympic team.

I'm going to get killed for this post, but the only team realistically capable of doing this shit is the Lakers, and that's mostly because they possess the only true assassin in the game. The Magic and Celtics are the only other teams who are deep enough to possibly pull an upset.

plowking
07-08-2010, 02:24 AM
Do some of you seriously think this will damage Lebron's legacy among casual fans? He will be remembered as a winner if he goes to a super team.
If he went to the Lakers, with him, Kobe and Pau, he would be remembered as a winner.
At the end of the day, no one will care who he won with.

JM720
07-08-2010, 02:24 AM
Sounds like lebron's handlers drumming up suspense leading up to "The Decision".

Wake me up when this shit is over.....

Pretty much, Lebron going to NY was getting to much news... so now you get these reports to make sure everyone is confused about what really is going to happen.

G-train
07-08-2010, 02:24 AM
I don't know how the Laker's fans can complain after the robbery of Pau Gasol from the Grizzlies.

FashionIssues
07-08-2010, 02:24 AM
What is the big fuss about Lebron's free agency. Young and garbage.

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 02:26 AM
I don't know how the Laker's fans can complain after the robbery of Pau Gasol from the Grizzlies.

Um, there's a huge difference, but okay.

Kingwillball
07-08-2010, 02:26 AM
Honestly, does LeBron James even have a choice? He wants to win a ring. That's not going to happen in Cleveland, Chicago, New York, or New Jersey. He can't go to the Mavericks, Lakers, Spurs, or any team without cap space because the Cavaliers don't want to sign and trade him. His only option, and I think he realizes it, is to sign with the Heat and form what is potentially the scariest, most dominant dynasty of all-time.

The only downside is that joining Wade and Bosh might stunt his growth as a player. I want him to be more fundamentally sound but that might not happen in Miami.


I think The Bulls would have a Great Shot with him for Championship and Knicks and Nets have pieces to make it happen within 2 or 3 Years.

R.H.C.P.
07-08-2010, 02:26 AM
Yup. And seriously, aside from the Lakers and Magic, what the hell are other teams supposed to do? They have no shot at winning a championship. There's a good chance that the rich get richer if this actually happens.

What about Boston? Can't count them out. I think they have a better chance at beating the trio then the Magic do.

blackification
07-08-2010, 02:26 AM
If lebron goes there it will probably be one of the if not the most hated team in nba history everyone except dickriders of the three stars or heat fans will root for that team to fail.

plowking
07-08-2010, 02:27 AM
What is the big fuss about Lebron's free agency. Young and garbage.

Are you honestly this upset? :oldlol:

What's the big fuss? The world's best basketball player could possibly be going to another team, and one of those teams could potentially form the best trio ever...

You sound like a bitter child who couldn't get the toy all his friends have.

Bet On Gold
07-08-2010, 02:27 AM
Oddly, I think it's kind of similar to the Lakers' situation. People talk themselves into lesser teams being able to beat the Lakers all the time, but at the end of the day the talent wins out. It was the same thing with Boston.

At the end of the day, how many teams will really be able to handle LeBron, Wade and Bosh? I kept thinking "Well, Kobe can check Wade, Ron can get LeBron and Pau can get Bosh." Still, that feels like that's BS. Seriously, how do stop LeBron and Wade together? That could be the question every team is asking for the next five years. We're talking about the two best players on the 2008 Olympic team.

It would be a lot better if Miami could get Paul or Howard; despite LeBron being better then both of those players. Wade & LeBron are mirror images of each other offensively, if it was Kobe, Bosh & LeBron that team would be a lot deadlier. Kobe does not handle the ball as well as Wade or LeBron, both of those players love to run iso and create plays for their teammates; they have really no one around them, this reminds me a lot of an all-star team. They'll end up most nights playing one on one and trying to beat teams as a trio, against the Lakers size and talent, that won't cut it unless they get reliable teammates.

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 02:27 AM
win/win situation for kobe


if he wins, he gets bumped into goat status and ahead of mj cause he won his 6th while beating the only team in nba history with 3 top players all in their prime

if he loses, he is remember for being the guy that forced 3 top players to sell out and join forces just to beat him

RedBlackAttack
07-08-2010, 02:28 AM
You are taking it wayyyyy too far. Chasing a ring? Please. Dude wants to win and have a legacy as a winner. Every player "chases" a ring. That's the objective...especially if you are a superstar who gets paid a shitload anyway.

I agree that he's an attention whore. But you know what? I bet you still supported him as a basketball the last 3 years. I bet you hoped the Cavs won the title the last 3 years. I mean, you act like the planned this whole thing 3 years ago. Shit aint working in Cleveland...what do you expect him to do? Seriously question.

If you are a Cleveland sports fan, then quit coming down so hard on the guy. Criticize your organization for basically patchworking for years and setting themselves up for moments like these. Honestly, it sounds like you want the guy to win a ring in Cleveland but no where else.

I don't understand what you are getting at. Of course I rooted for him over the course of the past seven years... He played for the Cavaliers. Hell... I've been watching (and rooting) for this guy since he was a freshman at SVSM.

That doesn't mean that I am indebted to him and must support every move that he makes in his career (however ill-advised). Any group of superstars can get together and decide to create an all-star team to get a ring. Sorry, but that isn't the way I want the NBA to work.

The Cavaliers have not been perfect over the past seven years. Like any organization, they've made some good moves and some bad ones. That is no excuse for this guy opting to play with arguably the second best player in the NBA and his biggest rival.

I'm sorry, but I like rivalries in this game... Not all of the best players becoming teammates. The last thing I want is for the NBA to turn into Major League Baseball with all of the game's top players joining the same handful of teams with all of the other franchises becoming virtual D-league teams.

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 02:28 AM
I think The Bulls would have a Great Shot with him for Championship and Knicks and Nets have pieces to make it happen within 2 or 3 Years.

Chicago Bulls? No way. I don't see that team taking out the Magic, Celtics, or Lakers.

R.H.C.P.
07-08-2010, 02:28 AM
I think The Bulls would have a Great Shot with him for Championship and Knicks and Nets have pieces to make it happen within 2 or 3 Years.

I guess that's why he chose Miami then...he can't afford to go another year without a ring.

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 02:29 AM
What about Boston? Can't count them out. I think they have a better chance at beating the trio then the Magic do.

Yeah, I forgot to mention Boston. If they're healthy they have a shot.

(e)
07-08-2010, 02:29 AM
Do some of you seriously think this will damage Lebron's legacy among casual fans? He will be remembered as a winner if he goes to a super team.
If he went to the Lakers, with him, Kobe and Pau, he would be remembered as a winner.
At the end of the day, no one will care who he won with.

Everyone hates on Kobe for being the "2nd guy" with Shaq for his first 3.

What's this going to mean when LeBron lost his first Finals appearance, and then makes it back with a super team of Wade and Bosh and wins that way?

Makes no difference to me, just sayin'. I think that would be an insane team to watch. Although it would dwarf any other free agency signings, and make Pat Riley look like a GOD.

hawksdogsbraves
07-08-2010, 02:29 AM
If lebron goes there it will probably be one of the if not the most hated team in nba history everyone except dickriders of the three stars or heat fans will root for that team to fail.

Yeah but that team will murder everybody they play...

G-train
07-08-2010, 02:30 AM
Um, there's a huge difference, but okay.

there is a huge difference, but its kinda the same in that seemingly unfair shit happens and sometimes your team benefits.

blackification
07-08-2010, 02:30 AM
Yeah but that team will murder everybody they play...
Or they will all end up murdering eachother :/

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 02:31 AM
I tend to agree with BlackAttack. This type of move would forever change the NBA.

R.H.C.P.
07-08-2010, 02:32 AM
win/win situation for kobe


if he wins, he gets bumped into goat status and ahead of mj cause he won his 6th while beating the only team in nba history with 3 top players all in their prime

if he loses, he is remember for being the guy that forced 3 top players to sell out and join forces just to beat him

I see you're already planning your argument cases for June 2011.

:cheers:

DuMa
07-08-2010, 02:32 AM
Miami still has glaring holes even with those 3 stars. They will still need to get a defensive center who can rebound.

Kurosawa0
07-08-2010, 02:32 AM
I'm going to get killed for this post, but the only team realistically capable of doing this shit is the Lakers, and that's mostly because they possess the only true assassin in the game. The Magic and Celtics are the only other teams who are deep enough to possibly pull an upset.

The problem I have is that Wade can match Kobe or come damn close to it. Sure, Artest can guard LeBron, but is he going to stop him? Say Gasol outplays Bosh. It won't be by much. I just think that it comes down to that Wade and LeBron one-two punch. No team is going to have an answer for that. We're talking about two guys that can win games by themselves and both are very unselfish. You can talk about "Oh, what about the rest of the team?" The Lakers just won a championship with a weak bench and a point guard that couldn't stay in front of anyone.

I think the pluses with these three will be too much for maybe the entire league.

blackification
07-08-2010, 02:33 AM
Miami still has glaring holes even with those 3 stars. They will still need to get a defensive center who can rebound.
And a better coach and a bench.

yea I know riley will most likely be the coach if it happens but for now spoelstra? yea right

plowking
07-08-2010, 02:33 AM
win/win situation for kobe


if he wins, he gets bumped into goat status and ahead of mj cause he won his 6th while beating the only team in nba history with 3 top players all in their prime

if he loses, he is remember for being the guy that forced 3 top players to sell out and join forces just to beat him

Exactly what I'm talking about lol... :oldlol:

Delusional Kobe fans thinking that even if Lebron wins with this team it does nothing for him, yet somehow Kobe rises if he wins or loses to this team.

It's amazing how scared one player can get them.

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 02:34 AM
The problem I have is that Wade can match Kobe or come damn close to it. Sure, Artest can guard LeBron, but is he going to stop him? Say Gasol outplays Bosh. It won't be by much. I just think that it comes down to that Wade and LeBron one-two punch. No team is going to have an answer for that. We're talking about two guys that can win games by themselves and both are very unselfish. You can talk about "Oh, what about the rest of the team?" The Lakers just won a championship with a weak bench and a point guard that couldn't stay in front of anyone.

I think the pluses with these three will be too much for maybe the entire league.

It's hard to say. I don't know how effective they'd be together. Who would be the leading scorer? It's not like they'd continue to average what they did on their previous squads. Few teams would have a chance, but this is sports... anything can happen.

visirale
07-08-2010, 02:35 AM
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g189/Visirale/miamiheat.jpg

RazorBaLade
07-08-2010, 02:35 AM
Exactly what I'm talking about lol... :oldlol:

Delusional Kobe fans thinking that even if Lebron wins with this team it does nothing for him, yet somehow Kobe rises if he wins or loses to this team.

It's amazing how scared one player can get them.

i have yet to see 1 la fan not say "bring it on" to a team of wade/bosh/bron

RedBlackAttack
07-08-2010, 02:36 AM
The problem I have is that Wade can match Kobe or come damn close to it. Sure, Artest can guard LeBron, but is he going to stop him? Say Gasol outplays Bosh. It won't be by much. I just think that it comes down to that Wade and LeBron one-two punch. No team is going to have an answer for that. We're talking about two guys that can win games by themselves and both are very unselfish. You can talk about "Oh, what about the rest of the team?" The Lakers just won a championship with a weak bench and a point guard that couldn't stay in front of anyone.

I think the pluses with these three will be too much for maybe the entire league.
Well... The Lakers could get Melo next year... And then Miami could grab Dwight. Of course, the Lakers would have to go after a guy like Derrick Rose, which the Heat could counter with CP3.

Fantastic! What a league.

G-train
07-08-2010, 02:38 AM
Pat Riley proves again his legend status for getting the Heat in position for this.

Bladers
07-08-2010, 02:38 AM
ROFL :roll: If this is TRUE!

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t39/Bladerskb/lebron_james_witness.png

Soundwave
07-08-2010, 02:38 AM
I think it's smart. NY or Chicago are not ready yet to compete for a title.

Might as well take 3 years at least in Miami, win a few titles, shut up some critics, and then he'll be 28 and can re-evaluate or perhaps opt out of his contract (though I suspect he won't).

Too bad for the Knicks though, that would've been really good for the NBA as a whole to have them re-emerge, but oh well. I guess you don't deserve to be rewarded for 10 years of managerial incompetence.

This isn't going to tarnish LeBron's legacy at all. This is going to make Miami like one of the most recognized pro sports teams on the planet ... ala the 90s Bulls or the NY Yankees.

Kurosawa0
07-08-2010, 02:39 AM
It's hard to say. I don't know how effective they'd be together. Who would be the leading scorer? It's not like they'd continue to average what they did on their previous squads. Few teams would have a chance, but this is sports... anything can happen.

Wade would be the leading scorer. You'd have to put the ball in LeBron's hands and let him be more of a Magic Johnson. LeBron once said that his ideal stat line was 22-10-10. If this does go down, I think LeBron would score less, but his assists and rebounds would go up.

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 02:39 AM
Exactly what I'm talking about lol... :oldlol:

Delusional Kobe fans thinking that even if Lebron wins with this team it does nothing for him, yet somehow Kobe rises if he wins or loses to this team.

It's amazing how scared one player can get them.


its just how it is man, its the way things have been done since the beginning

rings have levels of merrit

storys make careers

lebron/bosh/wade winning = low merrit

lebron/bosh/wade beating kobes new dynesty = big story

they just showin kobe new levels of respect that havent ever been seen before


no one gang raped a franchise to try and stop jordan

flipogb
07-08-2010, 02:40 AM
i have yet to see 1 la fan not say "bring it on" to a team of wade/bosh/bron
check actual Lakers forums, some are already saying it.

Lebron hasn't decided yet, but if he chooses Miami then i will say bring it on also

Jacks3
07-08-2010, 02:40 AM
lol @ Wade getting 2 of the top 10 players in the league along-side him.:roll:

Kobe Jnr
07-08-2010, 02:40 AM
Jesus H Chirst, joining the heat........... fark me..

blackification
07-08-2010, 02:41 AM
its just how it is man, its the way things have been done since the beginning

rings have levels of merrit

storys make careers

lebron/bosh/wade winning = low merrit

lebron/bosh/wade beating kobes new dynesty = big story

they just showin kobe new levels of respect that havent ever been seen before


no one gang raped a franchise to try and stop jordan
But the league wasn't run by mostly ***** made all star divas,david stern, nike, gatorade, and espn.

Rocker09
07-08-2010, 02:41 AM
This should be fun.........The heat better win a championship if this happens..........

ShaqAttack3234
07-08-2010, 02:41 AM
Exactly what I'm talking about lol... :oldlol:

Delusional Kobe fans thinking that even if Lebron wins with this team it does nothing for him, yet somehow Kobe rises if he wins or loses to this team.

It's amazing how scared one player can get them.

:oldlol: Not only that, but he honestly thinks Kobe would be the reason for Lebron joining the Heat? Idiots like him have to get it through their head that Kobe isn't some superhuman force who is in another tier than Lebron and Wade.

Bet On Gold
07-08-2010, 02:42 AM
The problem I have is that Wade can match Kobe or come damn close to it. Sure, Artest can guard LeBron, but is he going to stop him? Say Gasol outplays Bosh. It won't be by much. I just think that it comes down to that Wade and LeBron one-two punch. No team is going to have an answer for that. We're talking about two guys that can win games by themselves and both are very unselfish. You can talk about "Oh, what about the rest of the team?" The Lakers just won a championship with a weak bench and a point guard that couldn't stay in front of anyone.

I think the pluses with these three will be too much for maybe the entire league.

Fisher had big games this post season, especially in the finals, is a leader and is a veteran. Bynum is a seven footer who can bang down low, rebound, block shots and score; one of the better centers in the league when healthy; Odom is one of the best 6th man in the league and Phil Jackson is the greatest coach in league history. That's something Miami will not have around the big three; what do you think will happen if Wade or James struggle one night? The other will carry the load sure, but that also minimizes the other player's importance. When Wade is struggling scoring, he does other things offensively like set his teammates up; when he's struggling, LeBron will have the ball or the other way around, which makes the other player less valuable.

You do not create a championship team by buying talent, just ask the US Olympic team prior to them winning the gold medal.

Reverend Hoops
07-08-2010, 02:42 AM
Miami still has glaring holes even with those 3 stars. They will still need to get a defensive center who can rebound.

That is a glaring hole? They can find one in the D-League. Mind you he won't do anything else, but that is all they need. :lol

OnceInADECADE
07-08-2010, 02:42 AM
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g189/Visirale/miamiheat.jpg

all about the weed bro REAL TALKS BRO!!
http://cdn3.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/14867/beasley-chalmers.jpg

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 02:43 AM
check actual Lakers forums, some are already saying it.

Lebron hasn't decided yet, but if he chooses Miami then i will say bring it on also
didnt i just say it would help kobe

this is a happy day for me....

kobe just beating another magic or celtic team to win his 6th would mean he needs atleast a #7 and maybe even a #8 to become GOAT


this might be his only chance to make an impact huge enough to over take jordan with just 1 more ring


imagine kobe taking out the most hyped team in sports history

:bowdown:


BRING

IT ON!

RazorBaLade
07-08-2010, 02:43 AM
brons legacy is not gonna suffer if he wins. If he loses with that team its going to hell but if he wins no one is gonna care. Of course if the goal is 6 championships while playing at a high level is needed to be in the same category as Jordan, he could have been there with like 4 if he had found a way to win in Cle. But he is not made for winning and I don't even see them getting past BOston

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 02:45 AM
brons legacy is not gonna suffer if he wins. If he loses with that team its going to hell but if he wins no one is gonna care. Of course if the goal is 6 championships while playing at a high level is needed to be in the same category as Jordan, he could have been there with like 4 if he had found a way to win in Cle. But he is not made for winning and I don't even see them getting past BOston

Well, if he gives that same expression he gave at the last all-star game after losing Finals MVP he'll probably get some flak for it.

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 02:46 AM
:oldlol: Not only that, but he honestly thinks Kobe would be the reason for Lebron joining the Heat? Idiots like him have to get it through their head that Kobe isn't some superhuman force who is in another tier than Lebron and Wade.


whether or not you or i am correct

whether or not lebron is or isnt scared of kobe

this will be the perception 20 years from now




"hey, remember after kobe won back to back titles, wade, bosh and lebron all had to team up to stop him"



and thats all that matters

Kurosawa0
07-08-2010, 02:46 AM
its just how it is man, its the way things have been done since the beginning

rings have levels of merrit

storys make careers

lebron/bosh/wade winning = low merrit

lebron/bosh/wade beating kobes new dynesty = big story

they just showin kobe new levels of respect that havent ever been seen before


no one gang raped a franchise to try and stop jordan

You're making the mistake of thinking this has anything to do with the Lakers or Kobe. This isn't about what team is dominating right now. These three are looking beyond the Lakers and into the next decade. I seriously doubt they thought "Man, the only way for us to beat Kobe is to band together." No, they just know that if they get together no team might be able to stop them. Be it the Lakers or any team.

NY Comeback
07-08-2010, 02:46 AM
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g189/Visirale/miamiheat.jpg
GOAT Picture. :oldlol:

Kurosawa0
07-08-2010, 02:47 AM
this will be the perception 20 years from now

Um, that's just stupid.

1987_Lakers
07-08-2010, 02:48 AM
whether or not you or i am correct

whether or not lebron is or isnt scared of kobe

this will be the perception 20 years from now




"hey, remember after kobe won back to back titles, wade, bosh and lebron all had to team up to stop him"



and thats all that matters

:oldlol:

plowking
07-08-2010, 02:48 AM
I see, if Lebron signs somewhere that isn't your team it isn't fair. Break his career? This will make it. He'll be a winner.

It's all cool though. Kobe fans don't mind Artest signing on for far less than he's actually worth to make the team better, though if Lebron signs on to a good team it's just horrible. Got ya.

lakerspng
07-08-2010, 02:49 AM
:oldlol: Not only that, but he honestly thinks Kobe would be the reason for Lebron joining the Heat? Idiots like him have to get it through their head that Kobe isn't some superhuman force who is in another tier than Lebron and Wade.

No, but the Lakers as a team certainly are effecting the personnel moves of other league GMs as well as the career choices of players.

On paper the Heat would look like a juggernaut, on the court, isn't this the same core of players that didn't even have the chance to play for the gold medal and won the bronze instead?

The Heat still would have a lot of moves to make, to balance out and fill out the rest of the squad and then the team as a whole, would have a lot of work to do, to work themselves into a championship machine.

They would certainly be the favorites in the East, but I think they would need more than 1 season to gel enough to beat the Lakers in a series.

Next year, with PJ most likely retiring, Kobe being another year older, Artest being another year older... they would probably be the clear favorites going in.

I am not saying I would like to see it, but if it did happen. Cool. Let's go. I just wish they were in the same conference so we could see a couple more matchups per season...


What do you think the chances are that Heat vs. Lakers would be the Christmas day game?

RazorBaLade
07-08-2010, 02:50 AM
I see, if Lebron signs somewhere that isn't your team it isn't fair. Break his career? This will make it. He'll be a winner.

It's all cool though. Kobe fans don't mind Artest signing on for far less than he's actually worth to make the team better, though if Lebron signs on to a good team it's just horrible. Got ya.

Comparing Lebron to Artest are we? It's fair for Lebron to sign anywhere, just don't expect each championship to be considered the rebirth of jesus because chances are he isn't even gonna win FMVP.

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 02:51 AM
I see, if Lebron signs somewhere that isn't your team it isn't fair. Break his career? This will make it. He'll be a winner.

It's all cool though. Kobe fans don't mind Artest signing on for far less than he's actually worth to make the team better, though if Lebron signs on to a good team it's just horrible. Got ya.

Did you see Artest this year? His contract is going to kill the Lakers down the road. Hell, for the majority of the year he wasn't even that good on defense (mostly due to his weight).

If LeBron goes to Miami and wins 7 titles people will say he copped out or that he's one of the most unselfish players ever. I don't know how they'd react if the Heat managed to lose. Hell, winning 5 out of 6 years would probably be considered a disappointment.

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 02:51 AM
if i was a wade fan i would be pissed,,, wade and bosh with a solid team could win a title, and wade would win another title and finals mvp and with his stats would already be in discussion for one of the top 15 players ever

but since lebron had to jump on the wagon it pretty much takes away anything wade does.


and you know for a fact lebron will have the best stats, and thus win finals mvp if the team won the title

(e)
07-08-2010, 02:51 AM
I see, if Lebron signs somewhere that isn't your team it isn't fair. Break his career? This will make it. He'll be a winner.

It's all cool though. Kobe fans don't mind Artest signing on for far less than he's actually worth to make the team better, though if Lebron signs on to a good team it's just horrible. Got ya.

Not like Artest is even close to his prime.

This is LeBron, the 2 time MVP in his prime. Wade in his prime. And Bosh in his prime.

I think this would be so sweet to watch this team, but there is no denying those arguments of "LeBron needed Wade and Bosh" will definitely come up.

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 02:52 AM
if i was a wade fan i would be pissed,,, wade and bosh with a solid team could win a title, and wade would win another title and finals mvp and with his stats would already be in discussion for one of the top 15 players ever

but since lebron had to jump on the wagon it pretty much takes away anything wade does.


and you know for a fact lebron will have the best stats, and thus win finals mvp if the team won the title

Uh, no. Wade's legacy won't be hurt at all. LeBron and Bosh joined him.

Mikaiel
07-08-2010, 02:52 AM
I'll believe it when I see it.

It doesn't make any sense.

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 02:53 AM
Uh, no. Wade's legacy won't be hurt at all. LeBron and Bosh joined him.


wrong


lebron would take finals mvps out of wades trophy case


they hurt each others legacys

RedBlackAttack
07-08-2010, 02:53 AM
I see, if Lebron signs somewhere that isn't your team it isn't fair. Break his career? This will make it. He'll be a winner.

It's all cool though. Kobe fans don't mind Artest signing on for far less than he's actually worth to make the team better, though if Lebron signs on to a good team it's just horrible. Got ya.
So...

Ron Artest = LeBron James and/or Chris Bosh?

If you can find me one other example of arguably the Top 2 players in the NBA (inarguably two of the Top 5 players) deciding to join the same team in the same free agency period, I might listen to it... But this is unprecedented.

There is nothing healthy about a league that consists of a few all-star teams with the result being the destruction of several franchises.... Unless you like the MLB model. Not many people do and the competitive balance becoming so incredibly slanted is what led me to stop watching and supporting that league.

plowking
07-08-2010, 02:54 AM
if i was a wade fan i would be pissed,,, wade and bosh with a solid team could win a title, and wade would win another title and finals mvp and with his stats would already be in discussion for one of the top 15 players ever

but since lebron had to jump on the wagon it pretty much takes away anything wade does.


and you know for a fact lebron will have the best stats, and thus win finals mvp if the team won the title

Yeah, too bad some of us are fans of actual teams and aren't 20 something year olds following and idolizing a grown man.

Thus, best team possible means something to us unlike you.

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 02:55 AM
Short term: Great. The League would explode in popularity. It would be amazing to watch.

Long term: It would hurt the league. This type of shit can permanently change the look for the worst.

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 02:56 AM
Yeah, too bad some of us are fans of actual teams and aren't 20 something year olds following and idolizing a grown man.

Thus, best team possible means something to us unlike you.


who the hell would feel comfortable cheering for a diva "team" anyway lol


but yea, too bad for you 99% of the fan base is more concerned with how many legit titles kobe and lebron have as apposed to miami, cleveland or los angeles

plowking
07-08-2010, 02:56 AM
So...

Ron Artest = LeBron James and/or Chris Bosh?

If you can find me one other example of arguably the Top 2 players in the NBA (inarguably two of the Top 5 players) deciding to join the same team in the same free agency period, I might listen to it... But this is unprecedented.

There is nothing healthy about a league that consists of a few all-star teams with the result being the destruction of several franchises.... Unless you like the MLB model.

Who said that?

I said it's fine to stack a team by getting players to sign for far less than they are actually worth, but its not cool for Lebron to pick a team he wants to go to.

It's cool.

And most of y'all are getting mad at something that hasn't even happened. :oldlol:

Also RBA, I expected better from you. Putting words in my mouth now? Seriously... it's sport, you'll get over it eventually...
On second thought, maybe not if Miami wins 6 or so championships in a row... :oldlol:

plowking
07-08-2010, 02:58 AM
who the hell would feel comfortable cheering for a diva "team" anyway lol


but yea, too bad for you 99% of the fan base is more concerned with how many titles kobe and lebron have as apposed to miami, cleveland or los angeles

Don't group people with yourself, not everyone is a retard.

I guess people can cheer for a alleged rapist, so why not regular, clean cut guys like James, Bron and Wade?
Kobe's not a diva though. Not like he had a riff with Shaq, tried to trade Bynum, or demanded trades to the Bulls...

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 02:58 AM
all i know is if kobe got gasol


then lebron swooped in and stole the show


I WOULD BE PIIIIIIISSSSSSSSED



wade fans dont want this .... heat fans yes,,, wade fans no



so basically 90% of people who ever cared about the heat are on my side

RazorBaLade
07-08-2010, 02:59 AM
I have a question Plowking.

What if they lose? What's the excuse?

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 03:00 AM
Btw, if LeBron James joined the Lakers I'd be ecstatic. :oldlol:

RedBlackAttack
07-08-2010, 03:01 AM
ESPN: Chris Paul, one of James' best friends, has urged him to stay in Cleveland and let new Cavaliers coach Byron Scott coach him, according to sources. With such strong sentiment around him to not go to Miami it's possible James could alter his decision.

CP3 obviously sees the same error in judgment that I do. I just don't know what LeBron is thinking, here. Family and friends are doing their best to try to talk some sense into this guy. Hopefully, it isn't too late.

plowking
07-08-2010, 03:01 AM
I have a question Plowking.

What if they lose? What's the excuse?

Our excuse? There is none. We lost, just like any other team can...

What kind of question was that? Seriously...

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 03:01 AM
Don't group people with yourself, not everyone is a retard.

I guess people can cheer for a alleged rapist, so why not regular, clean cut guys like James, Bron and Wade?
Kobe's not a diva though. Not like he had a riff with Shaq, tried to trade Bynum, or demanded trades to the Bulls...


really man?


are you honestly trying to tell me the nba hasnt been a players league since the jordan era?


get with the times man.... out of the 50 million hoops fans around the world. 49 million of them are fans of their favorite star.... the team is just a brand


teams fold, move, re locate, go bankrupt, change names, places, owners, sell out


players.... they never change, what they did stays forever in the world of greatness


this is where you log off and go to bed

plowking
07-08-2010, 03:02 AM
Btw, if LeBron James joined the Lakers I'd be ecstatic. :oldlol:

You've been the only reasonable poster in here.

Kblaze8855
07-08-2010, 03:03 AM
ESPN news is flat out saying hes signing there...

This one finally past the "Sources say" point?

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 03:03 AM
ask the seattle sonic fans how their team spirit is right about now

RedBlackAttack
07-08-2010, 03:04 AM
ESPN news is flat out saying hes signing there...

This one finally past the "Sources say" point?
Not at all. Broussard is still only saying that LeBron is 'leaning' toward signing in Miami, but his family and friends are trying to talk him out of it. This is far from being a done deal.

RazorBaLade
07-08-2010, 03:04 AM
Our excuse? There is none. We lost, just like any other team can...

What kind of question was that? Seriously...

lmao the funniest thing I have read on these forums since i got here. If a team of lebron, wade and bosh lose there is going to be no excuse and people will just admit that whoever beat them is the superior team with the superior players. Lmfao. Thank you man that cheered me up

plowking
07-08-2010, 03:04 AM
really man?


are you honestly trying to tell me the nba hasnt been a players league since the jordan era?


get with the times man.... out of the 50 million hoops fans around the world. 49 million of them are fans of their favorite star.... the team is just a brand


teams fold, move, re locate, go bankrupt, change names, places, owners, sell out


players.... they never change, what they did stays forever in the world of greatness


this is where you log off and go to bed
:oldlol:

Did you just say players never change? :oldlol:

They might as well not keep track of who won the championship then... No one cares, right? We'll only keep individual tallies for each player.

plowking
07-08-2010, 03:05 AM
lmao the funniest thing I have read on these forums since i got here. If a team of lebron, wade and bosh lose there is going to be no excuse and people will just admit that whoever beat them is the superior team with the superior players. Lmfao. Thank you man that cheered me up

Yes...

The Heat might have the superior talent, though they got outplayed. It happens.

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 03:06 AM
Btw, if LeBron James joined the Lakers I'd be ecstatic. :oldlol:


lol


we just won the title back to back years with everyones respect



and your honestly trying to say you would throw away that respect for a garonteed third?

as if it wasnt garonteed already


your a fool

respect for how hard it was to win the rings is what puts jordans 6 over russells 11



get it?

blackification
07-08-2010, 03:06 AM
Man I don't believe a single thing ESPN says anything that comes out from there is hype for tomorrows show.. there are reports of him going to NY, Miami, Cleveland, and chicago. We knew that ever since he lost to the celtics.

Kevin_Garnett_5
07-08-2010, 03:06 AM
:oldlol: It must be devastating for Knick fans right now.

(e)
07-08-2010, 03:06 AM
CP3 obviously sees the same error in judgment that I do. I just don't know what LeBron is thinking, here. Family and friends are doing their best to try to talk some sense into this guy. Hopefully, it isn't too late.

Common sense is GTFO of Cleveland.

If he stays for a coach in the NBA, he's retarded.

Wade, Bosh and Pat Riley >>>>> Byron Scott

LA_Showtime
07-08-2010, 03:08 AM
lol


we just won the title back to back years with everyones respect



and your honestly trying to say you would throw away that respect for a garonteed third?

as if it wasnt garonteed already


your a fool

respect for how hard it was to win the rings is what puts jordans 6 over russells 11



get it?

Kobe Bryant won't be Kobe Bryant for much longer. Next year is going to be his 15th year in the league. Having the next superstar take the reign from Kobe would be ****ing awesome.

Kurosawa0
07-08-2010, 03:08 AM
Yes...

The Heat might have the superior talent, though they got outplayed. It happens.

Too many fans try to act like getting beat is some sort of mark of shame. It happens. Every player gets outplayed sometimes.Paul Pierce outplayed Kobe in 2008. You could argue Gary Payton outplayed MJ in 1996.

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 03:08 AM
:oldlol:

Did you just say players never change? :oldlol:

They might as well not keep track of who won the championship then... No one cares, right? We'll only keep individual tallies for each player.



ask 100 people on the street how many championships the celtics and lakers have


maybe 1 would have the right answer


ask the same amount of people how many championships jordan has

95 would probly get the answer right

jrong
07-08-2010, 03:09 AM
You know what? Just let it happen. These guys are gonna do what they're gonna do. They're not worried about their legacies, so why should we be?

There are a million reasons not to want this. I'm already preparing to be irritated by hearing Wade referred to as "sidekick."

But, it is what it is. Both Wade and James have already secured legacies. LeBron may not have won a title so far, but his supreme excellence has already ensured him of being a top 20 player in history. (And Bosh may get to the HOF now). And as long as they win-- Wade and James, I mean--, it's a net positive overall their legacies. Maybe it limits each of their own individual ceilings on the all-time list, but like I said, they're not worried about it, so just sit back and watch the show.

lakerspng
07-08-2010, 03:09 AM
Btw, if LeBron James joined the Lakers I'd be ecstatic. :oldlol:

only if he was willing to play behind Luke Walton until he learns the tri...

RedBlackAttack
07-08-2010, 03:10 AM
Who said that?

I said it's fine to stack a team by getting players to sign for far less than they are actually worth, but its not cool for Lebron to pick a team he wants to go to.

It's cool.

And most of y'all are getting mad at something that hasn't even happened. :oldlol:

Also RBA, I expected better from you. Putting words in my mouth now? Seriously... it's sport, you'll get over it eventually...
On second thought, maybe not if Miami wins 6 or so championships in a row... :oldlol:

I wasn't putting words in your mouth. I read your post and asked you what you were implying. You are a Heat fan, so I understand why you would be excited about potentially getting LeBron to go along with Bosh and Wade.

However, you have to be able to step outside of yourself and see:

A. How bad this is for the rest of the league.

and

B. How this will undoubtedly hurt LeBron's legacy.

Any move from Cleveland will permanently put an end to any comparisons between LeBron and MJ or the other top players to ever play. A move to a team with a guy that is arguably as good as LeBron? And one of the best frontcourt players in the league?

It is head-scratching and I would be surprised if you didn't see the pitfalls in LeBron's logic.

plowking
07-08-2010, 03:10 AM
lol


we just won the title back to back years with everyones respect




What do you mean "we"?. You only support Kobe I thought. You shouldn't be saying "we" bro.

Xplicit
07-08-2010, 03:11 AM
Goto ESPN.com

The frontpage article updated just 10 minutes ago says Lebron strongly leaning towards Heat

iamgine
07-08-2010, 03:11 AM
If he joins Miami, that's great.

Miami becoming the best team = a lot more TV exposure = a lot more endorsement contract. It makes a lot of sense money-wise and championship-wise.

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 03:12 AM
Kobe Bryant won't be Kobe Bryant for much longer. Next year is going to be his 15th year in the league. Having the next superstar take the reign from Kobe would be ****ing awesome.


but wouldnt you wanna see how long kobe can get it done?

and wouldnt you wanna see a laker become the GOAT?

its not verry often a player from your favorite team has a chance at matching michael jordan

sometimes you gotta show respect to the guy who gave your team its rings and give him a shot at greatness


instead of selling out his career by replacing him ... especially when it isnt broken and they just won the title


but i guess your dumb ass is more of a jerry krause type thinker

Kurosawa0
07-08-2010, 03:12 AM
The issue I have with everyone saying this is a bad thing for LeBron is that this is the best shot he has at multiple titles. Sure, winning six on his own would be great, but this will be his eighth season. It's not going to happen. So, if he goes to Miami and that team becomes a dynasty, how is that not better than winning a ring or two in Cleveland? Bob Cousy wouldn't trade places with Bob Pettit.

DuMa
07-08-2010, 03:12 AM
also you can rag on LBJ, DWADE, CB4 for trying to stack their talent to win championships but no one will be able to dispute the fact they understand at very young ages that it takes ultimate sacrifice of personal glory for the ultimate team achievement. no one can dispute that.

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 03:12 AM
What do you mean "we"?. You only support Kobe I thought. You shouldn't be saying "we" bro.


i cheer for the lakers


just cause i care more about kobe becoming goat than the lakers 20 years from now doesnt change that


i live in the moment

DuMa
07-08-2010, 03:15 AM
Also IF this does pan out to be the new big 3. LEBRON and CB4 did not JOIN D-WADE. it would be pretty clear they all colluded together simultaneously to attain the ultimate prize. no one joined anyone at a certain point. so no one can really say one of them joined each other's bandwagon

amfirst
07-08-2010, 03:16 AM
IF Kobe beats a Bosh/LeBron/wade team, he would automatically be the undisputed goat. :lol

plowking
07-08-2010, 03:17 AM
I wasn't putting words in your mouth. I read your post and asked you what you were implying. You are a Heat fan, so I understand why you would be excited about potentially getting LeBron to go along with Bosh and Wade.

However, you have to be able to step outside of yourself and see:

A. How bad this is for the rest of the league.

and

B. How this will undoubtedly hurt LeBron's legacy.

Any move from Cleveland will permanently put an end to any comparisons between LeBron and MJ or the other top players to ever play. A move to a team with a guy that is arguably as good as LeBron? And one of the best frontcourt players in the league?

It is head-scratching and I would be surprised if you didn't see the pitfalls in LeBron's logic.

Kareem changed teams... Wilt changed teams. What's the difference in having a player traded to his team, than just signing with one?

Look at the Knicks 70's championship team, look at the Lakers Showtime team, look at Bird's Celtics, look at the Lakers stacked teams with Wilt, look at the 76ers...

All had essentially 3 great players on the team. Obviously this teams big 3 will be the best ever, though it's not a big deal when it comes to winning. You win, and that's all that will be remembered.

griffmoney2084
07-08-2010, 03:17 AM
Also IF this does pan out to be the new big 3. LEBRON and CB4 did not JOIN D-WADE. it would be pretty clear they all colluded together simultaneously to attain the ultimate prize. no one joined anyone at a certain point. they all joined together.


keep telling yourself that


if it helps you sleep at night


if it was wade and bosh joining lebron, you know what the story would be


same as why people hate on KG and ray way more than they hate on pierce

its wades team





and even so,,, wades rings will be tainted if lebrons taking his finals mvps

RedBlackAttack
07-08-2010, 03:18 AM
The issue I have with everyone saying this is a bad thing for LeBron is that this is the best shot he has at multiple titles. Sure, winning six on his own would be great, but this will be his eighth season. It's not going to happen. So, if he goes to Miami and that team becomes a dynasty, how is that not better than winning a ring or two in Cleveland? Bob Cousy wouldn't trade places with Bob Pettit.
....because people will always ask what LeBron could have done if he wasn't playing with arguably the best player in the NBA.

Bob Cousy is not compared to MJ or KAJ or Magic. All of those guys won on the teams that drafted them. In MJ's and KAJ's case, they went on to change teams, but only after they proved to be the championship players that the teams that drafted them expected them to be.

If LeBron goes to Miami, it BETTER be a dynasty. Anything less would be a disappointment, but even with a dynasty... There will always be questions and any comparisons to Michael Jordan would and should stop forever.

plowking
07-08-2010, 03:18 AM
i cheer for the lakers


just cause i care more about kobe becoming goat than the lakers 20 years from now doesnt change that


i live in the moment

Nah, you live like a f@ggot with stupid opinions.

So, you're the only one that is allowed to cheer for both players and team? Did you think Wade/Bosh/Lebron fans might like this for their favorite player?

Tito Beasley
07-08-2010, 03:18 AM
"if you can't beat 'em, join 'em..."

Kurosawa0
07-08-2010, 03:19 AM
....because people will always ask what LeBron could have done if he wasn't playing with

That's like saying Kobe's career would've been better if he hadn't played with Shaq. Do you think he'd give back any of those three rings?