Discuss losing LeBron James from the Cleveland Cavaliers perspective

[BigJake]

If Lebron doesn't stay in CLE, he'll be stuck coaching a less talented team than the one he was fired from (for reasons still unknown).

[InspiredLebowski]

Poor Byron. He doesn't want the gig anymore I'll do it for free.

[PowerGlove]

Inspired, I can be your "white guy" and draw up plays while you....oh wait, lebron is leaving.

[imdaman99]

What do you mean poor Byron Scott? What happens if he coaches that team to go farther than Lebron did, by getting to the Finals or hell, winning it all? He will be a legend. Yeah but I wouldn't expect that to happen either :lol

[Court Vision]

Poor? No one forced his hand. He accepted the job knowing there was a good chance that LeBron would leave.

[twolvesfan]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3L2dBK6k0hQ/SCIn5QNPwAI/AAAAAAAAAi8/jTG423jCTeo/s200/byronscott.jpg

[Meticode]

I think at this point true fan have accepted the Mistake by the Lake title and LeBron leaving puts a certified signature on that, but regardless of that as I said before I was a Cavaliers fan before LeBron came, and I will be one there afterwards.

Ask for my opinion on LeBron and his decision? I'm highly disappointed of course. He told the city himself he wouldn't leave until he brought a championship to that city. And frankly I think when he said that he felt like they would win it last year, that way he could win it and just up and leave without any love lost between him and the city because he did what he said. Which makes me feel like he was up to ready to leave anyway in the first place.

I don't wish anything bad on the man, he'll be successful or he'll fail at what he wants to accomplish. And he'll live with those accomplishments or consequences, but there's no doubt in my mind with most people this will be viewed upon as him running away from something he promised a city, but to no avail he and the organization themselves failed to bring to the city of Cleveland. His legacy is tarnished in my eyes. I've always been a fan of players that stuck it out their entire careers with a team, even in failure (ie: Reggie Miller). I for one cannot wait TO tune into that first Heat @ Cavaliers game and watch the hate that spew from people's mouths, at what love people will shout from the rafters all for a man who plays a kids game, in a world dominated by business and money.

Good luck Mr. LeBron James. Thanks for the memories and ultimately bringing us back down to earth with your departure. We're used to disappointed the last fifty plus years in every major sport.

A True Cavaliers Fan,
Wayne J. of hometown Cincinnati, OH

[Kellogs4toniee]

I'm sorry man. I truly am. No true fan should ever be knifed in the back like that.

[1987_Lakers]

:roll:

[I am that I am]

Hopefully Cavs fans aren't surprised by this and didn't think that he'd actually stay there.

[AirGauge23]

You still have Joshua Cribbs. :confusedshrug:

[Kellogs4toniee]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[zORi]

I think at this point true fan have accepted the Mistake by the Lake title and LeBron leaving puts a certified signature on that, but regardless of that as I said before I was a Cavaliers fan before LeBron came, and I will be one there afterwards.

Ask for my opinion on LeBron and his decision? I'm highly disappointed of course. He told the city himself he wouldn't leave until he brought a championship to that city. And frankly I think when he said that he felt like they would win it last year, that way he could win it and just up and leave without any love lost between him and the city because he did what he said. Which makes me feel like he was up to ready to leave anyway in the first place.

I don't wish anything bad on the man, he'll be successful or he'll fail at what he wants to accomplish. And he'll live with those accomplishments or consequences, but there's no doubt in my mind with most people this will be viewed upon as him running away from something he promised a city, but to no avail he and the organization themselves failed to bring to the city of Cleveland. His legacy is tarnished in my eyes. I've always been a fan of players that stuck it out their entire careers with a team, even in failure (ie: Reggie Miller). I for one cannot wait TO tune into that first Heat @ Cavaliers game and watch the hate that spew from people's mouths, at what love people will shout from the rafters all for a man who plays a kids game, in a world dominated by business and money.

Good luck Mr. LeBron James. Thanks for the memories and ultimately bringing us back down to earth with your departure. We're used to disappointed the last fifty plus years in every major sport.

A True Cavaliers Fan,
Wayne J. of hometown Cincinnati, OH


I'm sorry Meti.

Don't worry, we lost Shaq to similar circumstances (after leading us to the FInals and then ECF, he just up and bolted), and then gave up T-Mac for Francis.

It'll take some time, but you will rebound. I promise.

[CanadaBBallFan]

Sorry dude. He had to make his best decision. As someone who "lost" Bosh, I can't say I blame him at all. Good luck to all of them.

[OnceInADECADE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izhg8fHFqyo

PleezeBelieve and all those Cleveland rednecks are making me laugh big time. I think they all commited sucide. Where u at Cavs fan.
LOL

[Go Getter]

Good show man. I have gained a lot of respect for Cleveland fans throughout all this.

Oh, and **** Lebron.

[Meticode]

I'm sorry man. I truly am. No true fan should ever be knifed in the back like that.
In the end, it's a business. But that's seemingly why I am fan of those "same team whole career" players because they defy that model of the game. It's a rare occurrence. And to be honest I'm one of the most humble people you'll find on this matter as far as a Cavaliers fan. I'm sure there are people going crazy right now, they're already burning his jersey. But if you love this city, if you love this slum hole you have to look past LeBron leaving, but that organization and team needs there fans more than ever right now, but will they be there? Doubtful.

[ElPigto]

I'm seriously sorry for you loss. I would have felt like sh!t if Hakeem would have done this to Houston during the prime years of his career. I remember when he signed with Toronto, it felt horrible but it didn't matter much anymore since he was at the end of his career.

This would sting me and unfortunately this sends Cleveland Cavs back to mediocrity. It's sad.

[ThemBombs]

hmm... well, on the bright side, you can win the lottery next season, and have Harrison Barnes playing on your team...

but I don't think it will ever be the same...

[rezznor]

getting rid of that troll will be the best thing that comes out of all this.

[Hotshoot]

Tom izzo knew this all along....

[twolvesfan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izhg8fHFqyo

PleezeBelieve and all those Cleveland rednecks are making me laugh big time. I think they all commited sucide. Where u at Cavs fan.
LOL
Now Beasley is going to be riding the bench getting 5 PPG

REAL TALKS BRO

[Meticode]

Hopefully Cavs fans aren't surprised by this and didn't think that he'd actually stay there.
I personally wasn't expecting him to stay, but I my heart wanted him too. I've been a fan since '97 of the Cavaliers when I first started watching the NBA. And those were some hard times. Seemingly you feel like it's going to revert back to that now.

[NuggetsFan]

If I was LeBron I'd tell Cleveland to go **** themselves. Burning his jersey? Why because he wants to go to a better situation. If anything this situation is showing that people are putting TEAM before individuals. So the press conference was a little much as well as all the other hype\bullshit? the NBA is a buisness. It was a smart move look at how huge tonight was in the sports world.

[Magic Vinsanity]

I felt this same pain when Shaq left in 1996 after saying he was staying with Orlando all year, basically meaning he left and we didnt even get anything in return.

Not a good time for Cavs fans, not a good time for basketball fans in general, when they put together these ridiculous 'big three' teams that have the chance to monopolize the league, it makes it hard to want to watch if you are a fan of any other team, your guys play through a long 82 game season plus playoffs knowing at the end of it, you arent going to win shit.

[I am that I am]

Lol Lebron was holding back tears when it showed him that

[jbryan1984]

I just think its messed up how he went on TV like he did and did that to us. With him, doing that, it kinda put a little hope in it for me. I never would had thought LeBron would do something like that to his home, my home. His legacy is done. Now, he will never be able to do what Michael and Kobe did because he left the team he built. I look back at the season we had before LeBron was drafted. 17-65 record, the worst in Cavs history. A team made up of Darius Miles and a rookie Carlos Boozer. I guess we head back there. Might as well trade away Mo, Jamison, Andy and rebuild.

[Fatal9]

http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/

:roll:

[garubu]

:roll: only thing left for PB is to leave ISH forever now.

[asdf1990]

hey maybe u guys will hit the jackpot in the lottery again.

[wang4three]

That was a pretty classless move by ESPN. I personally think they did that themselves just to get a reaction from LeBron.

[imnew09]

hahaha
wat now???
any cavs story??

thats wat all u CAVS STANS get for being too cocky last season.

Wat sup with the CAVS CHAMP now?

[TheLogo]

I think at this point true fan have accepted the Mistake by the Lake title and LeBron leaving puts a certified signature on that, but regardless of that as I said before I was a Cavaliers fan before LeBron came, and I will be one there afterwards.

Ask for my opinion on LeBron and his decision? I'm highly disappointed of course. He told the city himself he wouldn't leave until he brought a championship to that city. And frankly I think when he said that he felt like they would win it last year, that way he could win it and just up and leave without any love lost between him and the city because he did what he said. Which makes me feel like he was up to ready to leave anyway in the first place.

I don't wish anything bad on the man, he'll be successful or he'll fail at what he wants to accomplish. And he'll live with those accomplishments or consequences, but there's no doubt in my mind with most people this will be viewed upon as him running away from something he promised a city, but to no avail he and the organization themselves failed to bring to the city of Cleveland. His legacy is tarnished in my eyes. I've always been a fan of players that stuck it out their entire careers with a team, even in failure (ie: Reggie Miller). I for one cannot wait TO tune into that first Heat @ Cavaliers game and watch the hate that spew from people's mouths, at what love people will shout from the rafters all for a man who plays a kids game, in a world dominated by business and money.

Good luck Mr. LeBron James. Thanks for the memories and ultimately bringing us back down to earth with your departure. We're used to disappointed the last fifty plus years in every major sport.

A True Cavaliers Fan,
Wayne J. of hometown Cincinnati, OH

Sorry man.

Keep ya head up.

The Cavs are still a very good team.

[Yung D-Will]

I think at this point true fan have accepted the Mistake by the Lake title and LeBron leaving puts a certified signature on that, but regardless of that as I said before I was a Cavaliers fan before LeBron came, and I will be one there afterwards.

Ask for my opinion on LeBron and his decision? I'm highly disappointed of course. He told the city himself he wouldn't leave until he brought a championship to that city. And frankly I think when he said that he felt like they would win it last year, that way he could win it and just up and leave without any love lost between him and the city because he did what he said. Which makes me feel like he was up to ready to leave anyway in the first place.

I don't wish anything bad on the man, he'll be successful or he'll fail at what he wants to accomplish. And he'll live with those accomplishments or consequences, but there's no doubt in my mind with most people this will be viewed upon as him running away from something he promised a city, but to no avail he and the organization themselves failed to bring to the city of Cleveland. His legacy is tarnished in my eyes. I've always been a fan of players that stuck it out their entire careers with a team, even in failure (ie: Reggie Miller). I for one cannot wait TO tune into that first Heat @ Cavaliers game and watch the hate that spew from people's mouths, at what love people will shout from the rafters all for a man who plays a kids game, in a world dominated by business and money.

Good luck Mr. LeBron James. Thanks for the memories and ultimately bringing us back down to earth with your departure. We're used to disappointed the last fifty plus years in every major sport.

A True Cavaliers Fan,
Wayne J. of hometown Cincinnati, OH

Much respect

[bagelred]

What was Byron Scott thinking.

[insidehoops]

Discuss LeBron going to the Heat from the perspective of the Cavs

[Hotshoot]

But i am surprised why Cleveland fans were foolish enough to think they can ever win at anything, the city offers next to nothing and weather is miserable. Its basically another Detroit at least latter has a rich history.

[TheLogo]

I am sorry for what transpired and I was hoping Lebron would stay and bring a championship to your city.

Keep ya head up!

You guys still have a great team in Cleveland, you guys had the best record for two seasons.

See you in the playoffs.

[Reverend Hoops]

lol

[rknine15]

Lebron is a class act! :bowdown:

[Bladers]

Lmao...

[Rockets(T-mac)]

Yea now all the bandwagon fans are going to come out with usernames like "LBJCB4D-WADE".

I feel for Cleveland fans though, it really sucks when this type of thing happens.

[Meticode]

I was fan before I'll be one after. I have friends on Facebook that are like "Guess I'm a Heat fan." It's disgusting.

[ThemBombs]

http://www.slamonline.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/harrison-barnes-307x460.jpg

hopefully, you guys win the lottery and get this guy... I know it will never be the same as LeBron, but if you guys get him, and win a ring with him, you can piss all over LeBron's face

Harrison Barnes (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Harrison-Barnes-67225)

I'm hoping for the Cavaliers to get this guy... it's going to be very sad just seeing a franchise die off because of one man's departure

[FCN]

I hope the Thunder make it to the finals next year so I don't have to root for the Lakers...

[bballer]

i am seeing teh same thing on FB.

I am a fan of wherever Raymond Felton is playing, and there is a chance it could be the heat.

[DStebb716]

i am seeing teh same thing on FB.

I am a fan of wherever Raymond Felton is playing, and there is a chance it could be the heat.

Not a chance in hell. He is the best PG in free agency, and will NOT take a minimum contract.

[justin43]

This is going to devastate the economy in Cleveland.:cry: Through I wished that Lebron would have kept his promise to that city, I understand his decision. However, Cleveland is going to hate Lebron for a minute. I already see the jerseys being burnt on televison.

[Meticode]

http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/

:roll:
That was quick as hell.

[Hotshoot]

This is going to devastate the economy in Cleveland.:cry: Through I wished that Lebron would have kept his promise to that city, I understand his decision. However, Cleveland is going to hate Lebron for a minute. I already see the jerseys being burnt on televison.
Dan Gilbert should have sold the Cavs last year when he had the chance.

[nolebball]

I think the LeBron-less Cavs could still make the playoffs in the East, or at least get close. Am I crazy?

[marion706]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0

[sixer6ad]

I think the LeBron-less Cavs could still make the playoffs in the East, or at least get close. Am I crazy?

Williams/West/Gibson
Parker/Moon/Green
Andy/Hickson/Jamison

Williams/West/Jamison/Hickson/Andy starters?

I bet we pass the ball a lot more and stop standing and watching so much.

[KelticForce1349]

If LeBron was really determined to leave Cleveland, I wanted him to join the Bulls. I had doubts about how I would feel if it happened; as I watched him leave his hometown team tonight I realized how wrong I was for hoping to pry him away for my favorite team.

The bottom line is that I sincerely feel regret for LeBron's decision and what that must feel like for the folks of Cleveland.

[DuMa]

Cleveland is a sinking ship. but they can probably play great defense all year long like the Bobcats. the trouble is that they'll have no go to player.

[hawksdogsbraves]

I think the LeBron-less Cavs could still make the playoffs in the East, or at least get close. Am I crazy?

I say no way. There is no way they finish above the Heat, Celtics, Magic, Hawks, Bucks, or Bulls, and almost certainly will be behind the Bobcats as well. I think the Knicks will be better than the Cavs, and maybe even the Pistons or 76ers. The Cavs are going to be bad for a long, long time.

[coin24]

Too bad losers.. I'm fairly anti lebron for his media whoring etc but I think it will be exciting to watch Miami next season!!!

How many of the cavs bandwagoners will support Miami now lol!


WTF is wrong with the morons burning jerseys??!? It's a business you retards get over it. I'm sure if you had the chance to ball with ur mates, make mega $$ and ditch stinktown you would jump at the chance!!!

[Derka]

http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/

:roll:

LOL, he is way mad. This is so sick.

[niko]

Wow, he shitted on Bron. I'm glad people are not holding their punches here.

[chips93]

i cant wait to see harrison barnes wearing number 23 for the cavs in 2011/12

HE SHALL TRULY BE THE KING

by the way is that letter from dan gilbert for real, is anybody sure that it wasnt a hacker, if its legitimate dan gilberts got some serious balls

[InspiredLebowski]

http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/

:roll:
That's extremely petty. Tell the fans the sun will rise tomorrow, but don't take pot shots at the guy, the fans'll cover that on their own. Act like the professional you are.

As for everyone else on ISH who's giggling at Cleveland, you're all idiots. I can't find any reason other than schadenfreude.

[Derka]

i cant wait to see harrison barnes wearing number 23 for the cavs in 2011/12

HE SHALL TRULY BE THE KING

by the way is that letter from dan gilbert for real, is anybody sure that it wasnt a hacker, if its legitimate dan gilberts got some serious balls

Posting a letter on a website takes balls? Gilbert's an angry man right now. It doesn't take balls to be angry.

[AirJordan&Magic]

I hope the Thunder make it to the finals next year so I don't have to root for the Lakers...

:roll: You are a homer and one of those fake Cavs fans that annoy me.

What happened to your Cavalier avatar?

[InspiredLebowski]

:roll: You are a homer and one of those fake Cavs fans that annoy me.

What happened to your Cavalier avatar?
What happened to...EVERYONE'S AVATAR?!

[AirJordan&Magic]

What happened to...EVERYONE'S AVATAR?!

Wtf? What happened to everyone's avatar? :roll: ...I owe that guy an apology.

[Derka]

WTAM is reading the letter over the air for the 2nd time now in the last 10 minutes. They're acting like Gilbert is a hero for this ridiculous letter.

[AirJordan&Magic]

Seriously, that image of LeBron's jersey burning and him tearing up is heartbreaking.

How ungrateful are these clowns? And Dan Gilbert, are you freaking kidding me with that letter?

[FCN]

Wtf? What happened to everyone's avatar? :roll: ...I owe that guy an apology.

:cheers:

Btw, I don't think I will be the only Cavs fan rooting for the Thunder in next years playoffs. I can't root for Lebron/Miami, and short of Boston pulling off a miracle, I can't see Miami not making the finals.

Given that, I have to root for someone...and that someone can't be the Lakers, so yeah...Go Thunder! :rockon:

[FCN]

Seriously, that image of LeBron's jersey burning and him tearing up is heartbreaking.

How ungrateful are these clowns? And Dan Gilbert, are you freaking kidding me with that letter?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z9f9Eybv4I

You are not from Cleveland, so **** off!

[Disaprine]

cleveland = fail :oldlol:

on a serious note, i kind of feel for cleveland fans. i would be ****ing pissed off if i see the only chance for my city to be successful in sports just leave like that.

[indiefan24]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z9f9Eybv4I

You are not from Cleveland, so **** off!

You deserve this most for all the trolling you do

[FCN]

You deserve this most for all the trolling you do

We might have lost Lebron but Kobe is still not top 10 all-time.

Lebron is still > Kobe

[indiefan24]

We might have lost Lebron but Kobe is still not top 10 all-time.

Lebron is still > Kobe

5 > 0 (I'm talking about the Cavs organization here :lol :lol )

[FCN]

5 > 0 (I'm talking about the Cavs organization here :lol :lol )


Cavs without Lebron are also still better than the Pacers. :cheers:

[InspiredLebowski]

Cavs without Lebron are also still better than the Pacers. :cheers:
That dude's not a Pacers fan. And it's pretty close.

Anyway, Jonathan Givony of DraftExpress is at the Orlando Summer League. Said tons of people there were crowded in a room to watch Lebron. After he picked Miami he said "LeBron wouldn't be very happy to hear the things that NBA and media people are saying about him right now. This is just ridiculous."

Doesn't look like it's just Gilbert who thinks Lebron's a douche.

[indiefan24]

Cavs without Lebron are also still better than the Pacers. :cheers:

hahahah yup....GO PACERS

[thesighter]

Cleveland is done, back to being irrelevant. Value of the the franchise has taken a plunge.

Blow up the team now. Gilbert probably aiming to sell the team within the next several years.

[Kingwillball]

Its Funny there are a Bunch of Threads on Pg 1 with the Word Cavs or Cavaliers on it.. after the dust settles on here the Cavs will be back to an aynomous team like the Kings,Clippers,Nets ect that U barely hear about on here.

[crisoner]

I'd be pisst if I was a Cavs fan.

I remember him wearing a Yankees hat when the Indians played them a couple years back....He cheered for the Cowboys last year when they played the Browns.....now he gets out of dodge without bringing a ring to his real home.

Keep burning dudes jersey....don't blame yall.

[gyu]

http://www.slamonline.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/harrison-barnes-307x460.jpg

hopefully, you guys win the lottery and get this guy... I know it will never be the same as LeBron, but if you guys get him, and win a ring with him, you can piss all over LeBron's face

Harrison Barnes (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Harrison-Barnes-67225)

I'm hoping for the Cavaliers to get this guy... it's going to be very sad just seeing a franchise die off because of one man's departure
They won't even be the worst team in the league they will still be decent.
Toronto on the other hand... I believe they will be gunning for WORST TEAM OF ALL TIME.
Everybody ignores how bad Toronto will be, but just think about their cast and the contracts :roll: :roll: :roll:

[UtahJazzFan88]

Nah, I don't think the Toronto Raptors are the worst team in the league, Detroit Pistons, Indiana Pacers, Sacramento Kings aren't looking too good in 2010-2011. I have to agree Toronto isn't going to be close to making the playoffs, but I think they're better then a couple teams in the East.

[Soundwave]

Toronto is gonna be a whole 'nother brand of awful.

At least the Cavs have won playoff rounds and even been to the Finals.

Poor Raptor fans had that one run in like 2001 and basically nothing since.

[gyu]

Nah, I don't think the Toronto Raptors are the worst team in the league, Detroit Pistons, Indiana Pacers, Sacramento Kings aren't looking too good in 2010-2011. I have to agree Toronto isn't going to be close to making the playoffs, but I think they're better then a couple teams in the East.
Are you serious???????? Their best player is BARGNANI :roll: , followed by either Jack, Turkoglu (who doesn't try anymore btw), or Weems :roll:

I'm already declaring them the WORST TEAM OF ALL TIME :bowdown: (assuming no major changes are made throughout the season)

[Cangri]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPVB1COw0Gs

:oldlol:

[Magic Vinsanity]

That LeBron gets ALL the ref calls, every single last one of them....and Miami fans will all of a sudden become blind to it.

Guaranteed!

:lol

[Miller Time]

I can't believe that the Cavs' fans burned LeBron James jerseys. The same jersey of the same player they loved and whose dick they rode all the time. LeBron gave his best shot and fought for that team every game, but the managers failed to give him a better supporting cast. Yes they won many games in the regular season and reached the finals once, but look at those teams. LeBron ****!ng carried that team, no one helped him out.

NBA is a business, LeBron has the right to sign with any team he wants to. Cleveland sucks and I understand him wanting to win a ring by joining a better team. Don't tell me you would not have done the same thing?

Clevelands owner is ****ing pathetic for writing that shit on their website. You are called the Cleveland Cavaliers not Cleveland LeBrons! You still have a team left, now stop whining and get back to business and try to rebuild that team for the fans' sake!

And finally to the guys saying that Pacers suck more than LeBron-less Cavs are wrong.

I mean assuming everyone are healthy, look at these teams:

Pacers:
PG: TJ Ford/Lance Stephenson/AJ Price/L.Head
SG: B.Rush/Paul George/Lance Stephenson/Dahntay Jones
SF: Danny Granger/Paul George/M.Dunleavy
PF: Troy Murphy/Hansbrough/Rolle(or Solo)/McRoberts
C: Roy Hibbert/Jeff Foster


Cavs:
PG: Mo Williams/Daniel Gibson/Sebastian Telfair
SG: A.Parker/Delonte West
SF: Antawn Jamison/Jamario Moon/Daniel Green
PF: JJ Hickson/Leon Powe/Jawad Williams
C: A.Varejao/


Now tell me which team looks better? I did not consider FA signings, but I guess Pacers will sign a pg and Cavs will sign some new players.

[gyu]

People are underrating the Pacers. They were far from the worst and Granger was injured for a big part of the season.

[Miller Time]

People are underrating the Pacers. They were far from the worst and Granger was injured for a big part of the season.

exactly and now Pacers added Paul George and Lance Stephenson, who are looking really good. Hibbert will only get better and Hansbrough might actually play this season...

[BigTicket]

I had some hope until the end, but really this wasn't surprising, so I just got a bit sad then moved on.

The Cavaliers will be ok, the team is better than it was in 02/03, they're below the cap, they still have all their own draft picks going forward etc.

Are they going back to the playoffs next year ? Not really, but then half the league doesn't.

[Laxlen]

I'm calling it now,

TV RATINGS will be shattered if the Heat(seed 2) and Cavs (seed 7) meet in the playoffs.

[Laxlen]

Toronto is gonna be a whole 'nother brand of awful.

At least the Cavs have won playoff rounds and even been to the Finals.

Poor Raptor fans had that one run in like 2001 and basically nothing since.

I see the Raptors in the same spot as last season playing for a playoff spot on the last day of the regular season.

Colangelo is fighting for his job, it's playoffs or bust for him and if a bunch of hungry kids grow and learn through the off nights a .500 record is feasible.

[PurpleChuck]

Nah I'll still acknowledge that Lebron gets some stupid call...

Seriously, why must he come to Miami!?!?!

[BigTicket]

You mean the same way Orlando fans are blind to all the favorable calls Dwight gets ?

[Yung D-Will]

Nah I'll still acknowledge that Lebron gets some stupid call...

Seriously, why must he come to Miami!?!?!
Congrats on becoming the most hated city in all of basketball

[dazzer87]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3L2dBK6k0hQ/SCIn5QNPwAI/AAAAAAAAAi8/jTG423jCTeo/s200/byronscott.jpg


same look when he has to turn to Mo Williams or Side Show Bob for the winning shot!

[lilojmayo]

I can't believe that the Cavs' fans burned LeBron James jerseys. The same jersey of the same player they loved and whose dick they rode all the time. LeBron gave his best shot and fought for that team every game, but the managers failed to give him a better supporting cast.
Cavs:
PG: Mo Williams/Daniel Gibson/Sebastian Telfair
SG: A.Parker/Delonte West
SF: Antawn Jamison/Jamario Moon/Daniel Green
PF: JJ Hickson/Leon Powe/Jawad Williams
C: A.Varejao/

.

Ohio-folks are very upset. Sometimes they forget it is a business not just a sport. If LeBron at age 35 has many injures and isn't the same player he wants was like Tracy McGrady,the Cavs will shop him in a heartbeat. Organizations and fans aren't loyal to players, so they don't have to be loyal back.

You have to build this organization from stratch. Tank this year and hope you strike gold on Harrison Barnes. Then the next season strike gold again player in the biggest potential ever in Perry Jones. It's 2012, OJ Mayo is a restricted free agent. Get him, he is a ohio native, that played his high school ball here and loves the state of Ohio.

Now you have a nice young starting 4 nucleus that can compete for rings in the near future

PF: JJ Hickson
SF: Perry Jones
SG: Harrison Barnes
PG: OJ Mayo

[ShowtimeHoops]

Horrible. Add LeBron's public dump to the list of why Cleveland sports teams are cursed. I don't think they're surprised he left; it was obvious that Miami and Chicago offered a better chance to win. However, the way he went about it turned even the most loyal Cavaliers fans against him.

[gyu]

I see the Raptors in the same spot as last season playing for a playoff spot on the last day of the regular season.

Colangelo is fighting for his job, it's playoffs or bust for him and if a bunch of hungry kids grow and learn through the off nights a .500 record is feasible.
Colangelo will be fighting for his job but realistically what can he do? He has like 5-6 huge long-term contracts that nobody would touch.
Turkoglu stepping up? :roll: He already quit on the team, and wants to be traded.
Try trading Turkoglu, nobody will take him on that contract. If Colangelo manages to trade away all or most of those terrible long term contracts I will give him GM of even though Riley brought together the new big 3.

How can you imagine the Toronto near .500? Have you looked at their roster?

[Funnyfuka]

Cleveland is just full of losers living in a shity place who are bitter. Like they thought lebron was part of a family? please he s a ****ing multimillionaire sport athlete.
They should have known better and they shouldnt have been sucking on his **** so much.

Their over the top deception is proportionnal to their over the top love for the guy.
All this story smelled insanity, and affective dependency. And you wonder why he left. He got sick of carrying the weight of a city full of losers with nothing in life but his achievements. He got sick of people living viacarously thru him.

[Johnni Gade]

Mo Williams better step up.

[bekalc]

Ohio-folks are very upset. Sometimes they forget it is a business not just a sport. If LeBron at age 35 has many injures and isn't the same player he wants was like Tracy McGrady,the Cavs will shop him in a heartbeat. Organizations and fans aren't loyal to players, so they don't have to be loyal back.


The thing is I don't understand why Cleveland fans are blaming just Lebron. Because as far as I'm concerned if I were them, I'd blame the management for losing him in someways. Don't get me wrong, I realize they bent over backwards to give Lebron everything he wanted-but it was everything accept rings. Instead of letting a player make these types of decisions they should have hired people who knew what they were doing and worked at finding Lebron at least a good no 2 option. Look at how San Antonio got Parker and Ginobli years ago through good scouting.

The fact is its not the players job to just stay no matter what, its also the managements job to convince the player that they are capable of building a championship team. I don't blame Lebron one bit for deciding he'd be better off not only with Wade and Bosh, but he'd also be much better of with someone like Pat Riley running the show.

This is Lebron's life. That boy spent years of his life getting to the level he's at, and as Kevin Garnett said ,he'll never get his youth back. Cleveland could perhaps get lucky in a draft, or with some sort of sports team, but Lebron has a very narrow window. Don't get me wrong, Lebron was a jerk for the way he broke things up. But I think people need to realize that Lebron earned the right to make a good career decision.

[crisoner]

LeBron needs to fill one of these out for the state of Ohio....

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs081.snc4/35393_409925607154_726737154_5103379_2788706_n.jpg

[crisoner]

Congrats on becoming the most hated city in all of basketball


LA would like to say thanks!

[liquidrage]

From a Cavs perspective it's clearly horrible.

But they screwed up with Lebron. They let him run the team from day 1.

The had no way to develop a "Robin" with the way he plays, and the way they let him play from the start.

Another mistake they made was not having a plan to develop players along side him (although see the above, it probably wouldn't have mattered anyways). Danny Ferry showed up in "win now" mode and from 05 on they kept adding crappy vets.

Overall Cleveland screwed up. The handed a 19 year old the keys to the castle. Never had a solid long range plan to build a team around him. They gave him everyone he wanted they could get, as if a young kid is a good GM just because he can play.

I do feel sorry for the Cavs fans though. The way he left was about the worst I've ever seen.

[OG LeeTSkeeT]

Keep ya head up, still got KiD CuDi!

[HisJoeness]

Soooo Cleveland has to tank this season right? It'd be dumb not to. Harrison Barnes, Enes Kanter or Jan Vesely await.

[LBJMVP]

here is how i feel as a cleveland fan....

first off i want to change my username

second off i feel like he did betray us because for months ago he promised he wouldnt leave till he won.

it was cowardly cause he had to go to a different state to announce it. and he wasnt there cause of carmelo's wedding cause he was in miami today. he should have done it like a man and not done that.

i feel like he went on national television and said "now that i have everyones attention, F*ck you cleveland you arent good enough. when in reality we were 1 player away and that was that.

he didnt even try to stay. he hadnt talked to Dan Gilbert in 4 days. he didnt help us sign tom izzo, and he screwed us over free agent wise.

i honestly feel like he just screwed us sooo bad, and he is never ever welcome back in this city, and i cant wait till will play miami. even if we lose, i cant wait to see the reaction.

dan gilbert got mad for a reason, it wasnt just cause he left. it cause he did nothing to try and stay, and he claims how loyal he is, yet he never signed a deal bigger than the one he signed with miami.

and if anyone says... you mad?

YES I AM MAD AS SHIT.

P.S. I BURNED MY LEBRON JERSEY AND ITS LAYING IN THE STREET IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

MY OTHER IS GONNA BE A PROP FOR WENT WE PLAY MIAMI.

[AK47DR91]

LeBron just showed us all how much of a drama queen he really is.

Remember his MVP speech this past year? All staged to make him look "humble"

Remember the elbow "injury"? All staged b/c he knew he couldn't win it all with that squad.

If you're going to dump someone, do it with some class and give a little respect to them. 1-hour special just to dump Cleveland like that is classless.

And Gilbert? :eek: Shake my mf head at him for going nuts!!!! Dude just made it worst for Cleveland. :ohwell:

[LBJMVP]

LeBron just showed us all how much of a drama queen he really is.

Remember his MVP speech this past year? All staged to make him look "humble"

Remember the elbow "injury"? All staged b/c he knew he couldn't win it all with that squad.

If you're going to dump someone, do it with some class and give a little respect to them. 1-hour special just to dump Cleveland like that is classless.

And Gilbert? :eek: Shake my mf head at him for going nuts!!!! Dude just made it worst for Cleveland. :ohwell:



everyone in cleveland is praising him, and i respect him more cause everything he said is true except the winning before him part.

trust me lebron didnt even try to stay and didnt even talk to him after the meeting on july 3rd. he deserves to be pissed.

[AK47DR91]

everyone in cleveland is praising him, and i respect him more cause everything he said is true except the winning before him part.

trust me lebron didnt even try to stay and didnt even talk to him after the meeting on july 3rd. he deserves to be pissed.

Yeah, I know I would be going crazy too but I would still keep it inside the house.

[LBJMVP]

Yeah, I know I would be going crazy too but I would still keep it inside the house.


you know how much better cleveland fans feel after hearing that. he wasnt afraid to keep it in the house. he knew what everyone was thinking and had the balls to say it outloud.

lebron is a coward

in my mind he is judas.

[Lakers Legend#32]

What, you thought LeBron was gonna sign with bum f OKC?

[Derka]

you know how much better cleveland fans feel after hearing that. he wasnt afraid to keep it in the house. he knew what everyone was thinking and had the balls to say it outloud.

lebron is a coward

in my mind he is judas.

Dan Gilbert is a hypocrite who just damaged his team's chances of acquiring anything at all. What player can see an owner lash out like that and think "Yeah, I'd like to go play for that guy?" None. Drafting is literally going to be Cleveland's only option for the next several years.

Gilbert should have taken a long, hard look in the mirror before going off on Lebron. He enabled everything. He played a big part in creating the monster that royally screwed your team two days ago on national TV. Lebron's entourage...the perks for family members and friends...jobs for people in Lebron's circle...influence in the machinations of a professional sports franchise...pretty much ANYTHING Lebron wanted, just as long as there was a chance he wouldn't leave Cleveland.

Gilbert's name is all over ALL of it. He helped warp the twisted sense of reality that kid continues to live under and he should probably have acknowledged that before he went public with that ridiculous letter and made himself look like such a bad ex-girlfriend. Now he's exposed himself as a total jackass trying to shift the blame away from himself and you should be demanding his head for it. Cleveland fans seem to buying it hook, line and sinker. The rest of us aren't.

[VIP2000]

Since the Cleveland fans are talking about loyalty, they BETTER show up to the Q this season.

[Nastradamus]

Since the Cleveland fans are talking about loyalty, they BETTER show up to the Q this season.

lol at this.




Curious to see what Cleveland does here. Rumors of using the trade exception, and maybe Hickson, to pick up Jefferson. I'd go all in either way. I'd consider trades for a stud, volume scoer type. Jefferson is one angle, Monta Elliss is out there as is Arenas. They have an interesting frontcourt and the backcourt would be solid if they could add a young piece to compliment Parker/Williams. They may field a playoff team yet. Then they'll have their 1st rounder, Toronto's first rounder and Miami's first rounder IIRC.

[dazzer87]

From a Cavs perspective it's clearly horrible.


I do feel sorry for the Cavs fans though. The way he left was about the worst I've ever seen.

So how the hell is he suppose to leave the Cavs???????? You guys make it sound like he promise the Cavs that he is coming back aka Carlos Booze. :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin:

[LBJMVP]

Dan Gilbert is a hypocrite who just damaged his team's chances of acquiring anything at all. What player can see an owner lash out like that and think "Yeah, I'd like to go play for that guy?" None. Drafting is literally going to be Cleveland's only option for the next several years.

Gilbert should have taken a long, hard look in the mirror before going off on Lebron. He enabled everything. He played a big part in creating the monster that royally screwed your team two days ago on national TV. Lebron's entourage...the perks for family members and friends...jobs for people in Lebron's circle...influence in the machinations of a professional sports franchise...pretty much ANYTHING Lebron wanted, just as long as there was a chance he wouldn't leave Cleveland.

Gilbert's name is all over ALL of it. He helped warp the twisted sense of reality that kid continues to live under and he should probably have acknowledged that before he went public with that ridiculous letter and made himself look like such a bad ex-girlfriend. Now he's exposed himself as a total jackass trying to shift the blame away from himself and you should be demanding his head for it. Cleveland fans seem to buying it hook, line and sinker. The rest of us aren't.


that is what all the broadcaster excuse is.
the most simple way to get gilbet to not do this to you is to not F*ck over the whole damn city like lebron did.
trust we will get no less free agents then we did before considering we did get many anyway.

[CLE[216]]

So how the hell is he suppose to leave the Cavs???????? You guys make it sound like he promise the Cavs that he is coming back aka Carlos Booze. :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin:

Do you have a ****ing brain? He went on national television and took a shit on the city of Cleveland.

[Laxlen]

How can you imagine the Toronto near .500? Have you looked at their roster?

I'll be bluntly honest...i buy the "young gunz" storyline...the homer fan in me wants to believe. that is all.

[305Baller]

Quote:
Originally Posted by dazzer87
So how the hell is he suppose to leave the Cavs???????? You guys make it sound like he promise the Cavs that he is coming back aka Carlos Booze.

Do you have a ****ing brain? He went on national television and took a shit on the city of Cleveland.


But it was a shit for charity.

[Micku]

He should've sign with the Bulls. I think they have a better chance for a championship for years to come if he joined. And he had a legit second option with Rose or Boozer.

The Cleveland did everything that they could for LeBron. They had a great record with some awesome teammates. They had a chemistry going on. I do understand why they are mad and everything since he was the howntown hero and he had so much promise. You just have to move on I guess, but it would be fun if they boo the crap out of him.

This is causing a uproar, so it is much more entertaining! In a way, I'm glad he joined the Heat just because of he hate! It's a very nice chance of pace and if it works out (I doubt it), they are making history!

NWO

4LIFE

[gasolina]

I see a lot of blame going to Dan Gilbert of creating this Lebron "monster". Saying that his constant pampering of his star bit him in the ass.

But what else could the Cavs have done? I'm saying the Cavs, because I talk about the whole organization. From Ferry to Brown, to the custodians and the announcers, and to the players as well.

The Cavs were always under constant pressure to win "now". Ever since James' sophomore season, it has always been "trying to get one more guy to get them over the top".

Larry Hughes was a phenomenal mistake. But the Cavs struck out of Ray Allen and Michael Redd. Sure they could have just NOT signed him but they had to do something because they had to win "now".

When Boozer bamboozled the Cavs they immediately got Drew Gooden. Not the brightest of decisions but they did feel they had to get a replacement in order to remain competitive. Gooden's no Boozer but he did play good for the Cavs.

Boobie Gibson played exceptionally well vs. the Pistons some years ago. People were calling him to be Chauncey Billups part 2. Cavs overpaid to keep him around. Obviously his was just a flash in the pan.

Shannon Brown was drafted by the Cavs. He ended up playing a big role in the Lakers championships. Maybe the Cavs should have stuck with him. Well they didn't because they had to win now. Maybe he'd do a better job than Gibson did recently.

Delonte, Ben Wallace, Wally Z were all received in exchange for Larry Hughes and Drew Gooden. Again, this looks like the Cavs management trying its best to get something for Larry, who didn't really fit with them. They had to give up Drew Gooden, who DID play well for the Cavs.

Mo Williams was a good pickup. People say a lot of him sucking in the PO's. What they forget, is the Cavs just got him for Damon Jones and Joe Smith. Not really heartbreaking losses.

Shaq was traded for Wallace and Pavlovic. Wallace being a corpse of himself. This was supposed to bring the Cavs over the top. Further on the year, they get Jamison for nothing.

Year after year the Cavs keep adding players and salary in iorder to "get over the hump". They get criticized for this but they were in constant pressure to get James his championship. Teams as early as 3 years ago were already setting themselves up for this summer and they know James would bolt if he didn't win. You could just imagine how much stress Danny Ferry had to deal with every trading deadline. Well you only had to look at how many trades the Cavs did since James arrived trying to "get over the hump"

Lebron defenders always bring up the Lakers and the Celtics and on how their supprting casts were a lot better than theirs. Well both teams had to withstand some losing seasons in order to gain talent (Jefferson, Jeff Green pick, Bynum) or use that talent to get good players. The Cavs were never awful ever since they got Lebron, so you can't really expect them to be championship good that early because they were never gonna get anything good from the draft. Ironically, one of the players who played extremely well with Lebron were taken from the draft (Z, Varejao) The thing is, Paul Pierce, and to a lesser extent, Kobe had to endure some seasons of losing but they stuck with their teams until their teams delivered. After Shaq, what age did Kobe win again? How about Pierce? Lebron is what, 26?

People may bring up Kobe's "demand" to be traded until they got Pau Gasol. Pierce was on the same boat as well. But the thing is both players never did leave, and both players never did anything to compromise their team's chances of landing a good player for them (for example, signing an extension, or talking to a "would be" coach, or just not acting like you're ready to jump ship)

As for the James "inner circle" taking control of the locker room, well what can you do? This is the first time I've heard of this happening, and quite frankly was very suprised just because of how much money is involved with this. Granting the posse access to locker rooms is one thing, but hiring them as Cavs employees? I put the partial blame on this to Lebron, since he had the audacity to even suggest the Cavs to hire his friends. I also put the blame on the Cavs, for not being professional about it and politely declining. Maybe they couldn't coz they just wanted to do everything to keep James in Cleveland.

The thing is, you can't build championship teams that fast. The Cavs have been trying to build one really quick for about 4 years now. It's like building a house in one day, not waiting for the cement to dry or the work to be done carefully, only to see it fall by sundown. Then picking up the pieces and trying again the next day.

Are the Cavs at fault. Sure they are. But Lebron as well. All in all, the Cavs did they did just to appease James and his lofty demand for an overnight championship.

[brooks_thompson]

long, reasonable post

making it to the finals in '07 hurt the cavs more than anything else. it was james' 4th season, right when his rookie contract was up. they lucked out past the nonchalant pistons, and after they got their asses kicked by the spurs, the FO started scrambling.

james played a part in this as well though. instead of being patient for one or two more years while a proper team was built, he pushed for immediate changes and i guess he expected immediate results.

[crisoner]

Born here. Raised here. Played here. Betrayed here.

[Torious]

Well I really hated the Cavs while LeBron was on the team for their idiotic showboating, but now that he's gone and I see how hard the real Cavs fans take this, they've got my sympathy. Hope you guys get back on your feet and can upset the Heat in the POs this year. :D

Get Gilbert to sell the Cavs though, what was he thinking writing that letter. :wtf:

[gasolina]

The Cavs should get a new jersey asap. The further you could get away from the wine and gold the better it'll be

[franchize]

Let me preface this by admitting i am a knick fan and hoped lebron would be in orange and blue.

he was a real punk for going to the heat.i woulda hated him for going to miami, the nets, the clippers etc but i woulda still watched him.i have no respect for him punking out and not COMPETING for a ring.he might as well order a ring online because him winning a championship should not be fulfilling. Pat Ewing never won but he woulda never played WITH jordan and pippen to get a ring.Bird wouldnt have played WITH magic and kareem.Kobe wouldnt play WITH the celtics.the sayin is "you have to beat the best to be the best" not join the best.I play madden alot but i cant brag if i won but had the settings on Rookie.He's a punk and a quitter.Im getting tshirts made to say "if you can't beat em',Bron em".

thats being said,dan gilbert's repeat bashing of lebron is an embarassment.he sounds like a bitter sore loser.he cant honestly say danny ferry did a good job.there were to opportunities to get amare and ferry blew it and instead brought in an aging shaq and jamison.not to mention you guys cap space got eaten up by overpaying anderson varejao's overrated @$$.n yall let amare slip away because yall didnt wanna give up JJ hickson.how's that working out for you?I h8 to say it cuz i feel bad for the fans but i think you guys should sell the team.or maybe rename them and move to like cincy.something to changethe culture.LeBron is a once in a lifetime event.The biggest name in sports,a hs phenom unlike any other,2 time mvp, physical phenomenon, and from your home state.A the very least yall need a new jersey

[OJMayoDaFuture]

We Could Make Another LeBron After Seeing Christian Eyenga Dunk Reminded Me Of Someone http://www.nba.com/summerleague/games/20100714/CLEPHX/gameinfo.html :confusedshrug: (http://www.nba.com/video/games/timberwolves/2010/07/14/1521000032_sac_min_play4.nba/?ls=iref:nbahpt2#:confusedshrug:)

[JediProfit]

I don't know about the future...but I might have an explanation on why he left. Don't hate...he was powerless against it the evil Pat Riley.

LeBronception
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqH5e7N11nw

[SourPatchKids]

Born here. Raised here. Played here. Betrayed here.
Akron.

[Kobe8]

The Three Lovers Or The Love Triangle

[Kobe8]

The Chipmunks