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statman32
07-13-2010, 02:45 PM
Update: The trade is now an official transaction:

Full details: http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=6210



WojYahooNBA

Charlotte has traded Tyson Chandler and Alex Ajinca to Dallas for Dampier, Matt Carroll and Najera, a league source tells Y! Sports.
Per Woj

(e)
07-13-2010, 02:46 PM
I like it.

Now for Dampier to get cut and picked up by Miami for the minimum.

Se
07-13-2010, 02:47 PM
Dallas owns Charlotte in that deal.

Dallas just got a lot bigger, too.

CT: Haywood/ Chandler (nice combo)

Se
07-13-2010, 02:48 PM
I like it.

Now for Dampier to get cut and picked up by Miami for the minimum.

That would suck for the rest of the league.

HylianNightmare
07-13-2010, 02:48 PM
the ****?

why they already have haywood?

hopefully like (e) said, the cats cut dampier

InspiredLebowski
07-13-2010, 02:48 PM
So Charlotte used their Raja Bell exception? ESPN Trade Machine says they'd have to.

So that clears around $10 million from Charlotte assuming they cut Dampier. TJ Fo...

Se
07-13-2010, 02:49 PM
So that clears around $10 million from Charlotte assuming they cut Dampier. TJ Fo...

Hahaha!

qrich
07-13-2010, 02:49 PM
So not only do the Cats give up an expiring in Chandler, but also a big man who they seemed to like as a prospect but also take on Carroll?

Se
07-13-2010, 02:50 PM
So not only do the Cats give up an expiring in Chandler, but also a big man who they seemed to like as a prospect but also take on Carroll?

Seems like Jordan is doing a terrible job. Why is he moving Chandler for crap?

Bobcats must be in love with Mohammed and Diop :ohwell:

(e)
07-13-2010, 02:52 PM
the ****?

why they already have haywood?

hopefully like (e) said, the cats cut dampier

You can never have too much depth at center IMO. The more quality bigs you have, the better. Defensive wise, having Haywood and Chandler is really tough to go up against. Say they run into a team like the Rockets with Yao. It's going to be tough for Yao to get any kind of rhythm when the Mavs have 2 very solid bigs who know how to play defense.

:applause: @ Mark Cuban.

dab0yech0
07-13-2010, 02:54 PM
And they give up Ajinca who has shown flashes of being very solid, this doesn't make sense. Mj should be banned from making moves. He drafted Kwa-May Brown, Adam Morrison, and makes crappy trades. He's just doing horrible at evaluating talent or doing his job drunk or high

Se
07-13-2010, 02:54 PM
It's a nice counter to the Spurs signing of Splitter. Chandler defends Duncan well, and Haywood is a competent defender as well, he shouldn't struggle to guard Splitter.

King Lebron LBJ
07-13-2010, 02:55 PM
Cats really clear 10 million by cutting Damp? how does that work exactly?

D-Rose
07-13-2010, 02:57 PM
Decent trade for the Mavs. Another big man, but what can he do that Haywood can't? I still don't see them competing with LA.

As for Charlotte, I understand this helps their cap situation this year, but damn taking on Carroll again?

Damp will sign in Miami book it.

creepingdeath
07-13-2010, 02:57 PM
So we used the dust chip for Chandler? Donnie should've traded for Jefferson instead. GTFO, Dirk should've taken the max...

I have little faith in Tyson playing more than 40 games, he's been so injury-prone the last few seasons. No, I don't like it yet.

KB2009Champ
07-13-2010, 02:58 PM
looks like the west teams are finally making moves to get better.

all west contenders should be looking to stack up on big guys that can defend to counter LA.

bagelred
07-13-2010, 02:59 PM
Bobcats got owned so bad. Dampier's contract does give Cats cat relief, but they took on Carroll and Najera? :hammerhead:

This is an awful awful trade for the Cats. They didn't even get a PG in the deal, which they need badly.

Beautiful work by the Mavs.

InspiredLebowski
07-13-2010, 03:00 PM
Cats really clear 10 million by cutting Damp? how does that work exactly?
It's actually not that much. They don't even save a ton, they send out about $15.1, bring in 20.3. Cut Damp's 13 and it's 15.1 out and 7.2 in, but 3 of that coming in is via trade exception so it's actually 10.2 worth of salary added. So they saved about 5 million. If everyone follows all that.

Dumbass trade.

(e)
07-13-2010, 03:02 PM
It's actually not that much. They don't even save a ton, they send out about $15.1, bring in 20.3. Cut Damp's 13 and it's 15.1 out and 7.2 in, but 3 of that coming in is via trade exception so it's actually 10.2 worth of salary added. So they saved about 5 million. If everyone follows all that.

Dumbass trade.

Or beautiful trade by the Mavs?

niko
07-13-2010, 03:05 PM
Cats really clear 10 million by cutting Damp? how does that work exactly?
his contract is non guaranteed. so when you acquire him, you can choose to keep him (pay him the $12 million) or cut him (pay him $2 million and he is FA).

fatboy11
07-13-2010, 03:09 PM
WTF, MJ?

Horrible trade. Yeah, Dampier's contract is non-guaranteed (although they need him), but they just took on Matt Carroll and Najera. Awful. And gave up a young big man in Ajinca.

Rowe
07-13-2010, 03:09 PM
Good deal for the Mavs.

Not so sure for the Bobcats. Matt Carroll didn't fit the first time under Larry Brown(which is why he got dealt) so not sure if they keep him or buy him out.

Its crazy how he went from key role player in Charlotte to barely playing in Dallas.

hawksdogsbraves
07-13-2010, 03:10 PM
It's actually not that much. They don't even save a ton, they send out about $15.1, bring in 20.3. Cut Damp's 13 and it's 15.1 out and 7.2 in, but 3 of that coming in is via trade exception so it's actually 10.2 worth of salary added. So they saved about 5 million. If everyone follows all that.

Dumbass trade.

Wow horrible trade for the Fighting Michael Jordans. Why would they give up Ajinca, who has some promise, and get back Carroll!

bagelred
07-13-2010, 03:10 PM
If I were the Cats, I would have held out for the Beaubois guy or whatever his name is. They need a future PG.

My god, this trade is bad. :lol

BlazersDozen
07-13-2010, 03:11 PM
How many times has Carroll played for the Cats now? Twice on the same contract?

rufuspaul
07-13-2010, 03:11 PM
:wtf: I was glad that MJ backed out of the Calderon deal but this is even worse. Now we have no starting 1 and we're short on quality bigs.

Matt Carroll was good for us for one season. Maybe he can do it again?:oldlol: :cry:

Rowe
07-13-2010, 03:12 PM
WTF, MJ?

Horrible trade. Yeah, Dampier's contract is non-guaranteed (although they need him), but they just took on Matt Carroll and Najera. Awful. And gave up a young big man in Ajinca.

Najera isn't that bad. Hes ideal for Larry Brown's system as a reserve SF.

Matt Carroll is the bad acquisition, espescially if Larry Brown still wont give him PT.

Hopefully Charlotte got 1 or 2 1st rounders out of this deal.

D-Rose
07-13-2010, 03:13 PM
Perhaps the Cats have a trade in mind for Dampier?

Rowe
07-13-2010, 03:13 PM
Wow horrible trade for the Fighting Michael Jordans. Why would they give up Ajinca, who has some promise, and get back Carroll!

Ajinca is soft. He'll join his fellow Frenchman Ian Mahimi collecting DNP's next season.

The French Fries.

hawksdogsbraves
07-13-2010, 03:13 PM
Najera isn't that bad. Hes ideal for Larry Brown's system as a reserve SF.

Matt Carroll is the bad acquisition, espescially if Larry Brown still wont give him PT.

Hopefully Charlotte got 1 or 2 1st rounders out of this deal.

The Mav's high twenties 1st rounders would not be that much consolation to this deal.

AirJordan23
07-13-2010, 03:13 PM
Mavs got a pretty good deal in this. Also, this ends the rumor of Shaq going to the Mavs, right? Tyson's size and defense can be invaluable against a team like the Lakers. He can't do much offensively, though. Can't create offense on his own and has to be spoonfed.

StroShow4
07-13-2010, 03:13 PM
Matt Carroll returning to Charlotte... the only reason I remember that he played there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHE08w1Jgdc

HylianNightmare
07-13-2010, 03:13 PM
at least the toronto trade brought the cats a PG...

Rowe
07-13-2010, 03:15 PM
How many times has Carroll played for the Cats now? Twice on the same contract?
Yep.

Charlotte traded him to Dallas and now Dallas traded him back to Charlotte.

I remember seeing a little report on him on NBATV showing how he lived with his girlfriend and their dog in a little condo in walking distance from Charlotte's arena.

InspiredLebowski
07-13-2010, 03:15 PM
I used to drop like a dozen 3s a game with Carroll on NBA2K6 or whatever it was

Kujo
07-13-2010, 03:16 PM
Chandler was relatively ineffective, and injury prone during his short stint in Charlotte. I can understand why Charlotte dealt him. Never saw Ajinca play, so I can't comment on him.

What's odd is the crap Charlotte got back from Dallas. I gotta figure Charlotte's not done dealing yet. Doesn't make much sense at the moment. At least with the Raptors deal, they were getting Calderon.

hawksdogsbraves
07-13-2010, 03:16 PM
at least the toronto trade brought the cats a PG...

lol what toronto trade?

InspiredLebowski
07-13-2010, 03:17 PM
Maybe they move Damp for Calderon then Toronto has an assload of cap space to spend on...no one

Kujo
07-13-2010, 03:21 PM
Maybe they move Damp for Calderon then Toronto has an assload of cap space to spend on...no one

"The Bobcats are "very likely" to waive Dampier and his non-guaranteed $13 million salary for next season, a source tells Y!"

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/18459135975

rufuspaul
07-13-2010, 03:21 PM
Is there any credible link for this trade?

Rowe
07-13-2010, 03:27 PM
"The Bobcats are "very likely" to waive Dampier and his non-guaranteed $13 million salary for next season, a source tells Y!"

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/18459135975

That makes sense.

Charlotte has enough bad contracts anyways. They're like a lost & found basket at a mall. They have plenty of bad contracts that are nearly unmovable right now.

R.I.P.
07-13-2010, 03:28 PM
Donnie Nelson is officially the worst GM in the NBA.

In seven years he drafted one player, that played a minute in the NBA.
He traded Harris for Kidd.
He gave ridiculous contract extensions to old-ass Kidd and Terry.
He signed Shawn Marion to a horrible deal.
He overpaid Brendan Haywood.
Then he choose Tyson Chandler over Jefferson and Sessions.
In the end he has created a 100 million dollar roster that is not even guaranteed to make the play-offs.

Welcome to your new New York Knicks.

Next they

CLTHornets4eva
07-13-2010, 03:28 PM
This trade cannot be for real. :hammerhead:

SinJackal
07-13-2010, 03:29 PM
[QUOTE=Se

Perezident
07-13-2010, 03:33 PM
What are you guys crying for, Tyson will fail the physical and be on the first flight right back to Char.:roll:

Great trade by MJ...maybe this will light a fire under him to let him know the organization isnt playing with him lolol

rufuspaul
07-13-2010, 03:35 PM
Is there any credible link for this trade?

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=5377055

Shit! :banghead:

D-Rose
07-13-2010, 03:39 PM
per stein




Sources say Mavs now trying to sign Al Harrington w/mid-level exception. Harrington, not Shaquille O'Neal, is their No. 1 MLE target

:wtf: He doesn't fit in, they're full on the wings and plenty of big men too.




Charlotte can waive Dampier and instantly save $13 million. But Bobcats expected to look first to see if can trade him to fill another void

Smart move...

CLTHornets4eva
07-13-2010, 03:41 PM
We need to go after Collison or Paul. If we can get one of them for Dampier I'd be good with it. But come on 'Cats! :confusedshrug: :wtf:

kentatm
07-13-2010, 03:42 PM
per stein



:wtf: He doesn't fit in, they're full on the wings and plenty of big men too.



Smart move...


I am guessing going after Harrington means either Butler or Marion will be gone.

CLTHornets4eva
07-13-2010, 03:43 PM
Dumpier is basically the TPE that Toronto wouldn't include I guess.

I've pass the denial stage, still in the anger stage but going toward the bargaining stage.

crisoner
07-13-2010, 03:43 PM
Shaq to Chicago book it!

LOL

They want shooters in Dallas....man that team is loaded.

kentatm
07-13-2010, 03:43 PM
We need to go after Collison or Paul. If we can get one of them for Dampier I'd be good with it. But come on 'Cats! :confusedshrug: :wtf:


:oldlol:

If Dallas wasn't going to be able to get Paul for Damp, there is no way in hell Charlotte will be able to.

Dallas has MUCH better sweeteners than Charlotte to throw into a deal.

NO is clearly not selling just yet.

Rowe
07-13-2010, 03:44 PM
per stein



:wtf: He doesn't fit in, they're full on the wings and plenty of big men too.



Smart move...

Harrington would be silly to join that team. He'd make money but he'd be stuck behind Dirk. Dirk isn't moving to C anytime soon.

GOBB
07-13-2010, 03:47 PM
Daas trying to aquire Al Harrington with the MLE. What does thier roster look like today?

rufuspaul
07-13-2010, 03:49 PM
:oldlol:

If Dallas wasn't going to be able to get Paul for Damp, there is no way in hell Charlotte will be able to.

Dallas has MUCH better sweeteners than Charlotte to throw into a deal.

NO is clearly not selling just yet.

:cry: Cuban must have a magic spell cast on MJ and LB. Of all the trades they've made all of them have made the Cats better except the trade with Dallas. We took on worthless Diop with his horrible contract just to get rid of Carroll and now we have Carroll back!??!

CLTHornets4eva
07-13-2010, 03:50 PM
Maybe we go full circle and take back Okafor's contract for Collison. :oldlol:

rufuspaul
07-13-2010, 03:50 PM
:oldlol:

If Dallas wasn't going to be able to get Paul for Damp, there is no way in hell Charlotte will be able to.

Dallas has MUCH better sweeteners than Charlotte to throw into a deal.

NO is clearly not selling just yet.

Sorry to quote you twice but there is one thing we have that Dallas doesn't in regards to CP3: Jordan Brand.

rufuspaul
07-13-2010, 03:51 PM
Maybe we go full circle and take back Okafor's contract for Collison. :oldlol:

At this stage that would not surprise me.

InspiredLebowski
07-13-2010, 03:52 PM
Maybe we go full circle and take back Okafor's contract for Collison. :oldlol: Y'know, that actually makes a ton of sense. Well as rosters stand at this very minute and you don't take into account how they came to be anyway.

kentatm
07-13-2010, 03:52 PM
Sorry to quote you twice but there is one thing we have that Dallas doesn't in regards to CP3: Jordan Brand.


:oldlol:

so what?

you think Shinn gives a damn what Paul wants?

if he is trading him that money grubber is going to get the best deal he can.

Charlotte will cut Damp anyway.

CLTHornets4eva
07-13-2010, 03:54 PM
:oldlol:

so what?

you think Shinn gives a damn what Paul wants?

if he is trading him that money grubber is going to get the best deal he can.

Charlotte will cut Damp anyway.

Shinn owes US! :rant

rufuspaul
07-13-2010, 03:54 PM
:oldlol:

so what?

you think Shinn gives a damn what Paul wants?

if he is trading him that money grubber is going to get the best deal he can.

Charlotte will cut Damp anyway.

I have no respect for the lemon-headed weasel (Shinn), but I believe CP3 and his agent might put some pressure on a trade if the numbers were good. Anyways isn't that asswipe selling the team?

Point Blank
07-13-2010, 03:55 PM
As a Mavs fan, I like the trade.

Rowe
07-13-2010, 03:58 PM
Daas trying to aquire Al Harrington with the MLE. What does thier roster look like today?

PG: Kidd/Barea/Buckets
SG: Terry/Jones/Stevenson
SF: Butler/Marion/
PF: Dirk/Mahinmi/Samhan
C: Haywood/Chandler/Ajinca

The way Samhan has played in Summer League makes me think he'll make the team.

kentatm
07-13-2010, 03:58 PM
I have no respect for the lemon-headed weasel (Shinn), but I believe CP3 and his agent might put some pressure on a trade if the numbers were good. Anyways isn't that asswipe selling the team?


yea but he has been pretty adamant that they are not trading CP3.

I wouldnt trade him either.

He is the only player that gets people to show up for games in NO. If they move him, the arena will be as empty as Nets games last year.

Better to keep him to get butts in the seats and let the new owner worry about what to do.

GOBB
07-13-2010, 04:01 PM
PG: Kidd/Barea/Buckets
SG: Terry/Jones/Stevenson
SF: Butler/Marion/
PF: Dirk/Mahinmi/Samhan
C: Haywood/Chandler/Ajinca

The way Samhan has played in Summer League makes me think he'll make the team.

Not bad on paper.

Se
07-13-2010, 04:03 PM
PG: Kidd/Barea/Buckets
SG: Terry/Jones/Stevenson
SF: Butler/Marion/
PF: Dirk/Mahinmi/Samhan
C: Haywood/Chandler/Ajinca

The way Samhan has played in Summer League makes me think he'll make the team.

It's actually going to be:

CT: Brendan Haywood/ Tyson Chandler/ Ian Mahinmi
PF: Dirk Nowitzki/ Al Harrington/ Alex Ajinca
SF: Shawn Marion/ Caron Butler
SG: Rodrigue Beaubois/ Jason Terry/ Deshawn Stevenson
PG: Jason Kidd/ JJ Barea/ Dominique Jones

CLTHornets4eva
07-13-2010, 04:03 PM
Not bad on paper.

Yeah Dallas is definitely Finals contender in a weaker west.

CLTHornets4eva
07-13-2010, 04:04 PM
[QUOTE=Se

kentatm
07-13-2010, 04:04 PM
[QUOTE=Se

insidehoops
07-13-2010, 04:11 PM
The teams have announced the trade as official:

http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=6210

BlazersDozen
07-13-2010, 04:31 PM
I wouldn't be opposed to the Mavs signing Al Harrington for the bench. They have no other shooters coming off the bench since, from the few games I saw, they don't play Stevenson much.

novocaine
07-13-2010, 05:02 PM
Im not a trade expert, don

DuMa
07-13-2010, 05:08 PM
Comeon Mike, at least get Roddy Beaubois

CLTHornets4eva
07-13-2010, 05:28 PM
Okafor and Collison for Dampier.

AMISTILLILL
07-13-2010, 05:42 PM
Any chance the Celtics might make a run at Dampier if he gets released by the Cats?

QuebecBaller
07-13-2010, 05:57 PM
Isn't Matt Carroll an "Original" Bobcats ?

http://www.nike.com/nikebasketball/emea/assets/images/family/nba/players/profile/matt_carroll.jpg

kentatm
07-13-2010, 05:59 PM
[QUOTE=novocaine]Im not a trade expert, don

CLTHornets4eva
07-13-2010, 06:07 PM
Isn't Matt Carroll an "Original" Bobcats ?

http://www.nike.com/nikebasketball/emea/assets/images/family/nba/players/profile/matt_carroll.jpg

Yes, Expansion draft '03.

CLTHornets4eva
07-13-2010, 06:09 PM
I believe the answer is yes but the Mavs would have to wait at least 60 days before they could package Chandler with anything.

But he could be traded before the season starts. I don't think that will happen though, I think Dallas thinks they can use him. Too bad he will be hurt half the season.

icemanfan
07-13-2010, 06:19 PM
[QUOTE=Se

novocaine
07-13-2010, 06:20 PM
I believe the answer is yes but the Mavs would have to wait at least 60 days before they could package Chandler with anything.

ah okay, thank you :)

QuebecBaller
07-13-2010, 06:26 PM
Yes, Expansion draft '03.

So Carroll and Crash finally reunited :rockon:

Time to bring back Brevin Knight :D

Luigi
07-13-2010, 06:29 PM
I don't understand why is driving these changes among bigs.

Chandler, Dampier, Okafor. What is driving this?

CLTHornets4eva
07-13-2010, 06:38 PM
Now that the GM is out of NO, we may be able to do what Dallas couldn't, trade for Collison or CP3.

icemanfan
07-13-2010, 06:54 PM
I don't understand why is driving these changes among bigs.

Chandler, Dampier, Okafor. What is driving this?
in the case of Dallas this is soley to try and counter Splitter signing with the Spurs. He hates the Spurs mainly because he always out spends them but seldom out plays them.

kentatm
07-13-2010, 07:14 PM
in the case of Dallas this is soley to try and counter Splitter signing with the Spurs. He hates the Spurs mainly because he always out spends them but seldom out plays them.


uh not really.

they did it to unload the awful contracts of Matt Carroll and Eduardo Najera while simultaneously upgrading their backup center spot.

Now they have more flexibility for the future and a better player.

Nastradamus
07-13-2010, 07:20 PM
this shocked me a bit. That's an expensive C combo. They are loading up on length to deal with the Lakers and protect Kidd/Terry who can't defend the Parkers of the world. Or they possibly just wanted to get something for Dampier's voidable deal and will use Chandler in another trade.

MJ should have pulled the deal on the original deal. You dump Diaw's deal for Evans' and turn Chandler(who wasn't better than Nazr and Theo really last year) into the PG they badly need. You fill a hole without really creating another and give yourself a lot of financial flexibility now and going forward. Thomas is going to play most of the PF minutes anyways.

Nastradamus
07-13-2010, 07:22 PM
Now that the GM is out of NO, we may be able to do what Dallas couldn't, trade for Collison or CP3.

Maybe, but I doubt it. Dampier,Augustine,Diaw,Henderson,1st for Okafor,Paul? Saves 50 mil, gives you an athletic F(NO could use this), 2 talented, former first round guards and a first round pick. Probably better offers out there.

InspiredLebowski
07-13-2010, 07:23 PM
Hey Dallas, would you do Barea for Solomon Jones and some kind of future 2nd rounder?

Nastradamus
07-13-2010, 07:24 PM
good move for Dallas. Don't understand it from the bobcats side.

They clear some salary off the books and feel they can cover the loss of chandler at C.

Nastradamus
07-13-2010, 07:27 PM
[QUOTE=Se

CLTHornets4eva
07-13-2010, 07:33 PM
The bobcats are obviously gonna try to trade Dampier.

Bigsmoke
07-13-2010, 11:18 PM
I dont see why the Bobcats made this trade. They are trying to clear up some space or they like adding wack players

mrhoopfan
07-14-2010, 12:59 AM
I could see Kidd and RB starting I guess, but I don't really like it. Jones isn't a PG, he's a SG. I think Dallas makes a move for a SG still, a normal sized one. I can't see Marion starting over Butler after how bad he was last year. They need to buy him out and swallow that one. Bad idea from the start to sign an athelticism dependent player to a long term deal when he's on the wrong side of 30.

Chandler for Rip Hamilton? Maybe include Wilcox and Stevenson. I think both sides win. Pistons get cap space next year and a C to team with Wallace while Monroe develops. Dallas already has a good C and no legit SG, just SFs and undersized combo guards.

Decent idea

wally_world
07-14-2010, 06:59 AM
So Okafor was traded for Dampier :lol

Anw the Mavs are a deeeeeep deeeeeep team

creepingdeath
07-14-2010, 07:24 AM
this shocked me a bit. That's an expensive C combo. They are loading up on length to deal with the Lakers and protect Kidd/Terry who can't defend the Parkers of the world. Or they possibly just wanted to get something for Dampier's voidable deal and will use Chandler in another trade.

True. Cause all the length and depth against LA doesn't help us if we can't even make it to the second round, let alone the WCF (where the Lakers most probably will wait). I'm just hoping that Carlisle is gonna let Roddy start. At least that'd be an upgrade.

rufuspaul
07-14-2010, 08:04 AM
I dont see why the Bobcats made this trade. They are trying to clear up some space or they like adding wack players

Word is we're gonna re-sign Adam Morrison.:rockon:

Seriously though I have to believe that this trade is a set-up for another one. The cats don't have a starting PG and I can't see Larry Brown going into the season with DJ Augustin running the team.

hawkfan
07-14-2010, 08:18 AM
Cats really clear 10 million by cutting Damp? how does that work exactly?

They actually can clear 13 million.
Dampier's contract is non-guaranteed, so if he gets waived, he doesn't get a dime.
Hopefully, when Dampier gets waived, then he can come to the Hawks. We need his size. We have our MLE still available.

Bigsmoke
07-14-2010, 09:03 AM
Dirk
Terry
Haywood
Bulter
Marion
Kidd
Chandler

The Mavs are STACKED. Maybe they could meet the Heat in the final....again

no bullsh*tting this time Kidd

LJJ
07-14-2010, 09:26 AM
They clear some salary off the books and feel they can cover the loss of chandler at C.

Well. Nazr Mohammed (Yes: Nazr Mohammed) has been better for the Cats than Chandler, the team just looks better with him out there. And I don't know if Ratliff is coming back? Ratliff was solid as well, so with those two and Diop still deep on the bench it's not even a stepback in quality.

The problem is that Carroll is owed something like 12 million over the next three seasons and Najera is owed 5 million over the next two seasons. Bobcats are actually taking on more money here.

Carroll may be one of the originals, and I'd take him back in an instant if we were sending some shit in return, because at least Carroll is a real competitor. But this is a bit much.

rufuspaul
07-14-2010, 09:51 AM
Here's a "what if" comment posted at www.charlotteobserver.com (http://www.charlotteobserver.com):




I am convinced that Chris Paul will be a Bobcat in the next week or two. He will instantly make the 'Cats a contender. Larry Brown will turn him into a perennial MVP and the 'Cats will finally compete with Orlando and now Miami. BUT...what to do with Oak's contract who will be attached to any Paul deal. I say take Oak's contract and Diop's and ship it Washington for Arenas and McGee. Washington wants to start the "John Wall years" and needs frontcourt help. They also are willing to take on Diop's contract to get rid of Arenas. Then, Arenas will be the sixth man of the year. I know its crazy to pay a bench player $20mil a year but if it yields us Paul and rids us of Diop, I'd do it!

icemanfan
07-14-2010, 09:51 AM
Dirk
Terry
Haywood
Bulter
Marion
Kidd
Chandler

The Mavs are STACKED. Maybe they could meet the Heat in the final....again

no bullsh*tting this time Kidd
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creepingdeath
07-14-2010, 09:58 AM
Why? If the rest of the team plays like shit, roster depth doesn't help.

hawkfan
07-14-2010, 10:25 AM
hawkfan called this trade scenario.

hawkfan = where amazing happens.

rufuspaul
07-14-2010, 10:27 AM
hawkfan called this trade scenario.

hawkfan = where amazing happens.

So, what's the next Bobcats trade?

hawkfan
07-14-2010, 10:51 AM
So, what's the next Bobcats trade?

Trying to move DeSagna Diop and draft picks for Marvin Williams.

ginobli2311
07-14-2010, 11:25 AM
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yep. dirk finally has defensive minded bigs to protect the paint and rim. it only took 13 years to do it.

i think the mavs are going to be great this year. 58 to 62 wins with a legit shot to beat the lakers in a series. i'd love to see the mavs go after arenas or someone though. i'm not sure i love having both haywood and chandler because you really can't play them at the same time because it would be impossible to score. i'd love to see a chandler/barea and something to the wizards for arenas.

Nastradamus
07-14-2010, 12:33 PM
Trying to move DeSagna Diop and draft picks for Marvin Williams.
really? That'd be interesting, but they don't need SF or combo F(Wallace,Diaw).
Maybe Bibby for Diop?

Nastradamus
07-14-2010, 12:34 PM
First trade with Toronoto made Charlotte better in every way compared to this one. They get a PG in Calderon and dump Diaw's deal. Now they are without Chandler, but with no PG, but still paying 8 mil annually to Najera and Carroll. STUPID!

rufuspaul
07-14-2010, 12:49 PM
Latest rumor floating around Charlotte: Wallace, Diaw, Dampier + picks in a multiteam deal for CP3 and Carmello Anthony.

hawkfan
07-14-2010, 01:13 PM
really? That'd be interesting, but they don't need SF or combo F(Wallace,Diaw).
Maybe Bibby for Diop?

We aren't trading our starting PG for a backup big.
We may trade our starting SF, since he does nothing on the court at times.
The Bobcats are looking to trade Diaw, so this gives them more flexibility to do that, since Marvin can take those minutes that would otherwise belong to Diaw.

niko
07-14-2010, 01:33 PM
Latest rumor floating around Charlotte: Wallace, Diaw, Dampier + picks in a multiteam deal for CP3 and Carmello Anthony.
:D yeah, i see that happening...

rufuspaul
07-14-2010, 02:27 PM
:D yeah, i see that happening...

It happened last night in my dream, except we kept Crash.:oldlol:

Hawker
07-14-2010, 09:56 PM
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If they play like shit like they did against the spurs, it wont matter.