It's official: Leo Dicaprio is the greatest actor of his generation.

[Extempo]

Inception, The Aviator, Shutter Island, The Departed, Gangs of New York, Blood Diamond, The Basketball Diaries, Catch me if you can, Revolutionary Road, Titanic. Can you name another actor in the last 20 years who has delived such a range of amazing performances. No one comes close. Give the man an Oscar this year. He's been robbed twice already.

Leo Dicaprio= :bowdown:

[Gundress]

Inception, The Aviator, Shutter Island, The Departed, Gangs of New York, Blood Diamond, The Basketball Diaries, Catch me if you can, Revolutionary Road, Titanic. Can you name another actor in the last 20 years who has delived such a range of amazing performances. No one comes close. Give the man an Oscar this year. He's been robbed twice already.

Leo Dicaprio= :bowdown:



He's been robbed twice by who? Give me the name and what movie?

[miller-time]

i always thought he was going to be typecased as a pretty boy in the 90s. its good to see him breakout the way he has.

[DonDadda59]

Leo's best work was in 'What's Eating Gilbert Grape?'. He is not the best actor of his generation, but that's not to say he isn't solid. He's grown on me since I thought he would be just another one-dimensional skinny pretty boy after Titanic, but watch Gangs of New York again and tell me if he was even the best actor in that movie and then we'll talk about the generational debate.

[Jon101]

He's been robbed twice by who? Give me the name and what movie?
Deserved Best Supporting Actor 1993 for What's Eating Gilbert Grape
Deserved Best Actor 2004 for The Aviator

This year, they have no excuse. He had not one but two Oscar-worthy performances. Shutter Island and Inception. I know they don't like awarding popular actors but give this man the credit he deserves.

[QuebecBaller]

Don't forget, he was in Critters 3 :oldlol:

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[Gundress]

Deserved Best Supporting Actor 1993 for What's Eating Gilbert Grape
Deserved Best Actor 2004 for The Aviator

This year, they have no excuse. He had not one but two Oscar-worthy performances. Shutter Island and Inception. I know they don't like awarding popular actors but give this man the credit he deserves.


That's what not OP said. I am waiting for his answer and not u . And why do you have 8 posts?

and I said who Leo got robbed by who? maybe they did deserve than he did

[iamgine]

I like Brad Pitt more.

Se7en, Twelve Monkeys, Meet Joe Black, Fight Club, Snatch, Troy, Babel, Benjamin Button, Inglorious Basterds.

[1987_Lakers]

Leo's best work was in 'What's Eating Gilbert Grape?'. He is not the best actor of his generation, but that's not to say he isn't solid. He's grown on me since I thought he would be just another one-dimensional skinny pretty boy after Titanic, but watch Gangs of New York again and tell me if he was even the best actor in that movie and then we'll talk about the generational debate.

Agreed. DDL is a beast, too bad he doesn't do much movies.

[Hawker]

And he was in Growing Pains. What a pimp.

[J_Rock3ts]

i'd polish his knob, no homo

[leopoldstotch]

I still remember Leo's Growing pains days, and being with kirk cameron. :lol

who would have thought 20 years ago he would be at this stardom status?

i like Leo's movies, but i am more of a phillip seymour hoffman fan.


Before the Devil Knows you're dead
The Savages
Doubt
Synecdoche, NY
Capote
Along Came Polly (yes i like this movie, but because of him. his obnoxious behavior carried the film)
Punch-Drunk Love
Magnolia

...... and the list goes on. His movies in the past 10 years have been gold. Should have gotten an oscar for 'Doubt', but no way am i going to take away that Oscar from Heath Ledger for 'Dark Knight'.

[miller-time]

I still remember Leo's Growing pains days, and being with kirk cameron. :lol

yeah kirk went in a completely different direction. and not in a good way.

[andgar923]

threads like this is why I believe he is one of the most overrated actors of his generation.

I think he's solid to good for the most part, and he happens to be in great movies. But as an actor he isn't the best, not close.

[jasonresno]

threads like this is why I believe he is one of the most overrated actors of his generation.

I think he's solid to good for the most part, and he happens to be in great movies. But as an actor he isn't the best, not close.
He puts out amazing performance after amazing performance but never wins shit.

Blood Diamond, Catch me if you can, The Departed, The Aviator, (Inception), Shutter Island, Gangs of NY, Revolutionary Road, Gilbert Grapes.

The guy is 34 and has put out great performances in more good movies than any A list actor of our generation.

[andgar923]

He puts out amazing performance after amazing performance but never wins shit.

Blood Diamond, Catch me if you can, The Departed, The Aviator, (Inception), Shutter Island, Gangs of NY, Revolutionary Road, Gilbert Grapes.

The guy is 34 and has put out great performances in more good movies than any A list actor of our generation.

'Great' performances is a stretch.

He's mostly a 'solid' actor with occasional 'good' performances from time to time.

'Great' is not what he does all the time.

While some may see him as 'great' I still see him as trying to hard.

[leopoldstotch]

yeah kirk went in a completely different direction. and not in a good way.

i'm still waiting for kirk to pull a "mel gibson" sometime in the future. they were both bred in the same "born again christian" stables. :lol

[Tito Beasley]

Ugh.

Leo = most overrated actor of the generation.

He has the exact same personality in all his movies, he does every role the same, just as different characters. And it's not even like a Pacino type deal where only he can pull off that same personality. His recurring personality isn't even really a personality at all. It's very generic. And honestly, movies like The Aviator, Catch Me If You Can, Shutter Island, weren't even that good.

Call me when he can go from Edward Scissorhands to Donnie Brasco to Raol Duke to Captain Jack Sparrow to Don Juan DeMarco to Willy Wonka to John Dillinger. Ironically, Leo wasn't even the best actor in Gilbert Grape (how soon we forget who Gilbert himself was played by).

[playtetris]

I still remember Leo's Growing pains days, and being with kirk cameron. :lol

who would have thought 20 years ago he would be at this stardom status?

i like Leo's movies, but i am more of a phillip seymour hoffman fan.


Before the Devil Knows you're dead
The Savages
Doubt
Synecdoche, NY
Capote
Along Came Polly (yes i like this movie, but because of him. his obnoxious behavior carried the film)
Punch-Drunk Love
Magnolia

...... and the list goes on. His movies in the past 10 years have been gold. Should have gotten an oscar for 'Doubt', but no way am i going to take away that Oscar from Heath Ledger for 'Dark Knight'.

happiness
the big lebowski
25th hour
boogie nights
scent of a woman ( :lol )

[andgar923]

Ugh.

Leo = most overrated actor of the generation.

He has the exact same personality in all his movies, he does every role the same, just as different characters. And it's not even like a Pacino type deal where only he can pull off that same personality. His recurring personality isn't even really a personality at all. It's very generic. And honestly, movies like The Aviator, Catch Me If You Can, Shutter Island, weren't even that good.

Call me when he can go from Edward Scissorhands to Donnie Brasco to Raol Duke to Captain Jack Sparrow to Don Juan DeMarco to Willy Wonka to John Dillinger. Ironically, Leo wasn't even the best actor in Gilbert Grape (how soon we forget who Gilbert himself was played by).

I agree with most of this.

An actor has to become that character, and make it his own.... he needs to OWN IT!

I can easily see different actors play the roles that Leo has played.

Not that he's been 'bad', but there's other actors that can do as good a job if not better in almost every single one of his roles.

Leo has been associate with great projects, that would've been just as great WITHOUT HIM. Take him out of the equation, and the projects are 'still' great.

There's other actors that carry entire films and make them watchable.

I really like that you chose Depp as an example. He's one of the very few that can take on very different roles and make them his. Almost all of his roles are entirely different than the last. And then we have the ingenuity of bringing to life characters that one doesn't have much of a foundation to start from. Creating the characters that he creates is a work of art that's highly underrated.

Depp is at an echelon that Leo will probably never reach.

Depp is on Jordan, Kareem level.

While Leo is on Worthy's level.

[branslowski]

Im sorry, but is Johnny Depp is on Jordan level....Then Robert Dinero and Marlon Brando must be Jordan + Bird + Magic Times 1000....:lol


No disrespect to Depp..

[knobs]

depp's versatility - even based only on the fact that he can play both the rego and the wacked out freak with equal - trumps leo's slow and steady recurring style. as it does with a lot of great young mainstream actors, from damon to pitt to bale.

the title of best, trying to take everything into account, i'd probably give to psh like whoever mentioned him above me. ddl's resume doesn't hold up in quantity, and guys like hanks/bridges/penn/etc are quality but not quite on the top tier.

ledger was definitely on his way to being a defining actor of this generation though - i bet he would've had a somewhat similar legacy to depp without the zaniness, given his choice of films in the recent years before his death.

[Tito Beasley]

Im sorry, but is Johnny Depp is on Jordan level....Then Robert Dinero and Marlon Brando must be Jordan + Bird + Magic Times 1000....:lol


No disrespect to Depp..



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[Tito Beasley]

Leo is like Lebron James. He took the easy way out by choosing to work with Martin Scorsese so much, instead of becoming a great actor by working with less talented filmmakers and raising them all up like those who came before him. I mean, Clint Eastwood didn't want to work with Woody Allen; he wanted to beat him.



:wtf:



but only because there is no facepalm smiley.

[Nanners]

Leo has been in a lot of the greatest movies in the past decade, and he is one of the greatest actors, but not the absolute greatest. The only guys I would put ahead are of him though are Depp, Pitt, Denzel, Daniel Day Lewis, maybe a few others.

[Go Getter]

threads like this is why I believe he is one of the most overrated actors of his generation.

I think he's solid to good for the most part, and he happens to be in great movies. But as an actor he isn't the best, not close.


This.

Don Cheadle>Leo

[andgar923]

Leo has been in a lot of the greatest movies in the past decade, and he is one of the greatest actors, but not the absolute greatest. The only guys I would put ahead are of him though are Depp, Pitt, Denzel, Daniel Day Lewis, maybe a few others.

He's involved with 'great' projects which would've been great WITHOUT him.

[ukplayer4]

Deserved Best Supporting Actor 1993 for What's Eating Gilbert Grape
Deserved Best Actor 2004 for The Aviator


so that would have been hackman(unforgiven) and jamie fox(ray) that "robbed" leo.

look i like dicaprio alot and have been saying for years that he deserves respect as a serious actor(i once had a big argument with a professor/film academic about his ability) but lets get real- we all knew this was coming, as soon as someone decent is in alot of good mainstream films people start raving like hes the greatest actor. just like people do occassionally about pitt, lol. good actors that have big mainstream appeal have a massive advantage over all other actors, why? because firstly everyone sees their films and is aware of them, secondly because good directors will work with them because they can get their more ambitious projects funded. the thing is about actors is that alot of them dont even want to be mega stars, there is a whole flock of brilliant lead actors that just shun the mega stardom and are very picky, infact they are more true to their art, guys like guy pearce and viggo mortensen etc etc.
that said i love leo, whilst not possessing great range he does have that great screen presence that is required to be a great actor. someone pointed out that he hasnt won the oscar because he hasnt made any films better- this is a fairpoint as the oscars always go to actors based on the scale of their performance- i.e how much they dominated the film(day lewis in there will be blood/jeff bridges in crazy heart/forrest whitiker in last king of scotland etc etc etc), it never goes to a brilliant subtle performance, ever. its always a big loud method performance, in this age of ever more refined and restrained film making it is maybe becoming a bit of an outdated idea to give the award to the actor who does the "most" acting...is that neccesarily the best, memorable yes but is it the best?
anyway my point is leos best stab at best actor and also i consider it BY FAR AND AWAY HIS BEST PERFORMANCE was blood diamond- now the film wasnt a masterpiece but leo made that film, a captivating performance, just so controlled and he also dominated the screen.
leos time will come but to say he deserves it this year when in actual fact the year(in terms of film relevance) hasnt even begun yet, the summer garbage isnt even out of the way, october is usually when we start getting the real films.

[ukplayer4]

Leo is like Lebron James. He took the easy way out by choosing to work with Martin Scorsese so much, instead of becoming a great actor by working with less talented filmmakers and raising them all up like those who came before him. I mean, Clint Eastwood didn't want to work with Woody Allen; he wanted to beat him.



:roll: :roll:

[plowking]

Depp can't hold Leo's jockstrap. If you're looking for overrated, Depp is it, not Leo.
Leo's put great performances out though only now lately has he been picking up on the increase in attention and constant appraisal from critics. Before it was "he was great", though they seemed to forget about him and you'd never see him mentioned with great actors. Now he is, and he deserves it.

[PowerGlove]

Leo has a jockstrap? The studio doesnt provide extra hands for that?

[andgar923]

Depp can't hold Leo's jockstrap. If you're looking for overrated, Depp is it, not Leo.
Leo's put great performances out though only now lately has he been picking up on the increase in attention and constant appraisal from critics. Before it was "he was great", though they seemed to forget about him and you'd never see him mentioned with great actors. Now he is, and he deserves it.
:lol

[Tito Beasley]

Depp can't hold Leo's jockstrap. If you're looking for overrated, Depp is it, not Leo.
Leo's put great performances out though only now lately has he been picking up on the increase in attention and constant appraisal from critics. Before it was "he was great", though they seemed to forget about him and you'd never see him mentioned with great actors. Now he is, and he deserves it.


Apparently someone wasn't listening when Whitney dun' told ya that crack is wack

[ROCSteady]

happiness
the big lebowski
25th hour
boogie nights
scent of a woman ( :lol )

Almost Famous
The Talent Mr. Ripley


PSH DDL Gary Oldman >> Leo (and I'm a DiCaprio fan myself)

[plowking]

:lol

Leo is far more versatile than Depp... that's truth.

For every great role Depp has, Leo has one too. I used to think the other way around as well, though Depp became stale a long time ago. All he does now is try to pick the most obscure roles possible and run with adding previous character traits from his other movies into his newest role.

[andgar923]

Leo is far more versatile than Depp... that's truth.

For every great role Depp has, Leo has one too. I used to think the other way around as well, though Depp became stale a long time ago. All he does now is try to pick the most obscure roles possible and run with adding previous character traits from his other movies into his newest role.

Uh... no.

[Lebron23]

Christian Bale

[ukplayer4]

dude, wtf are you talking about, depp has more versatility of roles and greater range than leo, come on. i have less of a problem if you just felt leo was a better actor but what you are saying is just beyond bias.

[ukplayer4]

Christian Bale


:roll:

[1987_Lakers]

I agree that Depp has more range than Leo, but Depp's versatility is greatly overrated.

[Tito Beasley]

All he does now is try to pick the most obscure roles possible and run with adding previous character traits from his other movies into his newest role.


I will agree that the one compromising thing to Depp's legacy is that he worked with Tim Burton too much. Even though I give props to Depp as an actor, in real life he's a total ******. Many people dont know but he's actually a wrist-cutting, america-hating goth/emo dweeb. He acts like a pouty, angst-ridden teenager. Dude is a straight up ho to the mo. Hence his strong affinity to do Tim Burton's wack movies.

But get real. Leo DiCaprio's best role wouldnt even crack Depp's top 5.

[ROCSteady]

My favorite Johnny Depp performances:

George Jung - Blow
James M. Barrie - Finding Neverland
Edward Scissorhands
Gilbert Grape



Glen- Nightmare on Elm Street :rockon:

[ROCSteady]

I will agree that the one compromising thing to Depp's legacy is that he worked with Tim Burton too much. Even though I give props to Depp as an actor, in real life he's a total ******. Many people dont know but he's actually a wrist-cutting, america-hating emo. Dude is a straight up 'mo.

But get real. Leo DiCaprio's best role wouldnt even crack Depp's top 5.

His Willy Wonka sucked. Wilder >>>>>>>>>

Jim Carroll, Danny Archer, Billy Costigan, the Grape kid, Tobias Wolff (This Boy's Life) are all GREAT performances, many done as a young teenager. Face is, Leo is a talent that wasn't even classically trained. He's a natural too

[plowking]

dude, wtf are you talking about, depp has more versatility of roles and greater range than leo, come on. i have less of a problem if you just felt leo was a better actor but what you are saying is just beyond bias.

Show me the versatility in Depp's acting that branches out further than Leo's.

Sweeney Todd and Captain Jack Sparrow were essentially the same character. As well as the character played in Dr Parnassus. He had the same traits and expressive elements/emotions for each of them.

[juju151111]

Christian Bale is one of the WORST big name actors. At least in my opinion...:confusedshrug:
Go watch his movies that wasn't big budget. Bale isn't overrated

[plowking]

And yes, even Pitt in terms of versatility and as an overall actor is > Depp.

[ukplayer4]

i suspect that hoover could well result in the best actor oscar for leo, its that kind of role and with clint at the helm you know it will have plenty of oscar bait.

[PistolPete]

http://www.lahiguera.net/cinemania/actores/daniel_day_lewis/fotos/5953/daniel_day_lewis.jpg

He is the greatest

[vapid]

I have a hard time really understand who consists of "our" generation. DDL is 32 years older than me, I wouldn't really consider him part of my generation.

[Jackass18]

Nobody brought up Norton yet? He's another guy better than DiCaprio.

This thread is a lot better than that one where some idiot tried to say Will Smith was the best actor of this generation (IIRC).

[leopoldstotch]

Nobody brought up Norton yet? He's another guy better than DiCaprio.

This thread is a lot better than that one where some idiot tried to say Will Smith was the best actor of this generation (IIRC).

i do like edward norton, but however, his peak was the 90s with films such as:

Primal Fear
Rounders
American History X
Fight Club

did 1 good movie in the 2000s (Death to Smoochy). All the rest of his movies were not good to meh. I still have faith in him to produce something good in the future, but his 2000s cannot compare to how much upside he had in the 1990s.

out of all the actors I have seen mentioned in this list my favs goes as follows:

Philip Seymour Hoffman
Daniel Day Lewis
Johnny Depp
Leo DiCaprio

Edward Norton and Christian Bale are in the mixed bundle list. :lol

and yeah i said it. I like Johnny Depp over Leo.

Also am a Robert Downey Jr fan post-jail(2000). Movies I liked with him:

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
A Scanner Darkly
Zodiac
Iron Man (part 1. part 2 i am not a fan of.)
Tropic Thunder

and he had a bundle of good movies before jail. too many to list ....

[lakers_forever]

Viggo Mortensen had a great decade:

Lord of the rings.

History of Violence

Alatriste

Eastern Promises

Good

The Road.

[Snoop_Cat]

Question - I myself, am a casual movie watcher; I watch a lot of movies but unless they are just a embarrassment of a movie like The Last Airbender, I don't really see too much into acting quality.

What exactly is so great about this Daniel Day Lewis guy; I never hear of him when people outside of ISH discuss great actors and I almost feel like he's popular here cause one guy debated the hell out of him and everyone else followed.

Personally, as a casual movie watcher, I think DiCaprio is terrific and Depp is becoming vastly overrated as well, and I think my opinion is similar to most of the general movie viewing audience

[leopoldstotch]

Viggo Mortensen had a great decade:

Lord of the rings.

History of Violence

Alatriste

Eastern Promises

Good

The Road.

yes i agree. he's had a good one. LOTR, HoV, and the Road come out to mind, especially The Road. how he did not get an oscar nomination for that movie is beyond me. the movie is excellent.

[leopoldstotch]

Question - I myself, am a casual movie watcher; I watch a lot of movies but unless they are just a embarrassment of a movie like The Last Airbender, I don't really see too much into acting quality.

What exactly is so great about this Daniel Day Lewis guy; I never hear of him when people outside of ISH discuss great actors and I almost feel like he's popular here cause one guy debated the hell out of him and everyone else followed.

Personally, as a casual movie watcher, I think DiCaprio is terrific and Depp is becoming vastly overrated as well, and I think my opinion is similar to most of the general movie viewing audience

I do agree that DDL isn't much talked about in the casual movie watchers circles. he hasn't done much films, but when he does them, he does them very very well. check out

My Left Foot : The story of christy brown
the last of the mohicans
in the name of the father
gangs of new york
there will be blood

as for depp vs dicaprio, i tend to like depp's dark emo roles more. yeah i tend to be emo. WHATCHA GOING TO DO ABOUT IT! HUH! GET AWAY FROM ME! /slices wrists :cry:

[Skywalker]

Body of Lies was good too. Russell Crowe is our generation no? He's up there EHHH.

[markymark]

I'd put Depp slightly above Leo, although both are vastly underrated.

Depp = MJ
Leo = Kobe
Russel Crowe = Joe Johnson (overrated as hell)
Ben Stiller = JR Smith (not a great player, but entertaining as hell)
Jack Black = Jerome James (UTTER TRASH)

[AxionJaxion]

De Niro
Pacino
DiCaprio

Damn, the Italians have better cars, gangs, food, AND actors.

[The_Yearning]

Somebody post that gif. of Depp slapping the hell out of DiCaprio in Gilbert Grape.

That is all I have to say about Depp vs. Leo.

[leopoldstotch]

Somebody post that gif. of Depp slapping the hell out of DiCaprio in Gilbert Grape.

That is all I have to say about Depp vs. Leo.

not gilbert grape, but still. johnny depp.

http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/banned.gif

:lol

[ukplayer4]

Question - I myself, am a casual movie watcher; I watch a lot of movies but unless they are just a embarrassment of a movie like The Last Airbender, I don't really see too much into acting quality.

What exactly is so great about this Daniel Day Lewis guy; I never hear of him when people outside of ISH discuss great actors and I almost feel like he's popular here cause one guy debated the hell out of him and everyone else followed.

Personally, as a casual movie watcher, I think DiCaprio is terrific and Depp is becoming vastly overrated as well, and I think my opinion is similar to most of the general movie viewing audience


lol, firstly ddl is usually one of the first people named when people discuss the best actors, what is so great about him is that he is firstly increadibly intense in the aforementioned method style of acting and he has massive screen presence. secondly whilst he doesnt do that many films and two of his most well known performances were similar(gangs of new york and there will be blood) he is actually equally increadible in films in which his character couldnt be more different- my left foot/the boxer and a personal favorite room with a view. depp tends to have a more subtle approach(although many people dont realise this because of his sparrow/sweeney todd esque roles).

[Snoop_Cat]

lol, firstly ddl is usually one of the first people named when people discuss the best actors, what is so great about him is that he is firstly increadibly intense in the aforementioned method style of acting and he has massive screen presence. secondly whilst he doesnt do that many films and two of his most well known performances were similar(gangs of new york and there will be blood) he is actually equally increadible in films in which his character couldnt be more different- my left foot/the boxer and a personal favorite room with a view. depp tends to have a more subtle approach(although many people dont realise this because of his sparrow/sweeney todd esque roles).

I see.. I will definitely have to take a more indepth look at Daniel Day Lewis..

On my personal "great actors of our generation" list off the top of my head, from the casual movie watcher -

De Niro, Depp, DiCaprio, Denzel Washington, Tom Hanks, Morgan Freeman, Will Smith, Harrison Ford, Hugh Jackman, Sylvester Stallone.

Can anyone give me a breakdown on these guys and what makes them great/not so great.

[ROCSteady]

De Niro
Pacino
DiCaprio

Damn, the Italians have better cars, gangs, food, AND actors.

Not to mention clothes. We sh!t on other cultures.


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_movies_blog/files/2010/06/gary_oldman_10.jpg

Can't believe I'm the only one to throw my dude Stansfield in the mix...

:rockon:

[ukplayer4]

Not to mention clothes. We sh!t on other cultures.


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_movies_blog/files/2010/06/gary_oldman_10.jpg

Can't believe I'm the only one to throw my dude Stansfield in the mix...

:rockon:



how about in war.....ohhhh.

there arent actually that many great italian actors on an international scale, certainly the tradition of acting is no where near englands, but then no where is. as far as cinema go's,certainly historically there has been some great movements- neo realism, fellinni, the horrors obviously but recent years italy hasnt been too great.

[leopoldstotch]

well i've got to give it up to the english actors like:

daniel day-lewis
michael caine
patrick stewart
ian mckellen
alan rickman
ralph fiennes
ben kinglsey

yeah old actors, but let's give them a hand of applause for their works.

:applause:

ukplayer? are you welsh? scot? english? or that other area no one really talks about .... :lol j/k

[ukplayer4]

I see.. I will definitely have to take a more indepth look at Daniel Day Lewis..

On my personal "great actors of our generation" list off the top of my head, from the casual movie watcher -

De Niro, Depp, DiCaprio, Denzel Washington, Tom Hanks, Morgan Freeman, Will Smith, Harrison Ford, Hugh Jackman, Sylvester Stallone.

Can anyone give me a breakdown on these guys and what makes them great/not so great.


obviously you only watch the big mainstream films, no disrespect intended. ill try and do a little breakdown with some films you may not have seen these guys in.



deniro- great actor(all time great) the morons rate him purely on his gangsta films but so many of his greatest performances are from elsewhere.
*often overlooked classic performance to see- "awakenings"

depp-great actor(an alltime great highly likely) funny thing about depp, he was really popular in a huge cult sense all through his career as he deliberatly avoided mainstream films, then he did pirates and became hugely popular- everyone else jumped off, how pathetic is that? especially as in actual fact his best work has come post pirates.
*often overlooked classic performance to see- "ed wood" "the libertine"

dicaprio- good actor, still rising, see my earlier post on him
*blood diamond is his best performance imo

denzel- does a wide range of roles and does them well, has the presence, tough for me to rank him cause i havent seen alot of his best work.
*"hurricane" i remember being good.

tom hanks- hhmmm, i actually find him quite boring to watch alot of the time but then i see him doing good work in good films.
*"castaway" was a great, great performance.

morgan freeman- who doesnt love morgan freeman, rarely the lead but has done some of the finest support to so many great films, he has that screen presence also but is pretty limited
*he was born to play mandela "invictus" and it may be his best performance but has he ever added more to a film than he did in the splendid "march of the penguins" he only narrates but its perfect.

will smith- does what he says on his tin, draws in the masses and has likeable appeal, been in plenty of crap and doesnt seem to want to be considered as much of a great actor as he is a comodity.
*"i am legend" whilst not a great film was imo one of smiths best performances

harrison ford- is very much like will smith, demands a huge amount of money and wont do films for less than his fee (10 mill) because of this he has had to only do crap for the last 20 years and clearly doesnt care, harrison ford goes against the mentality of the actor.
im not gonna recomend anything from him, he goes against the art of film making, although hes been good in plenty of good films.

hugh jackman- the jury is out, hes only done one good performance in two serious films and he was very good although alot of credit for this is possibly attributable to the genuis of the director, therefore ill still recomend it to you
"the fountain" easily his best, and only great performance.

sylvester stallone-
every 15 years or so he reminds us that he has the ability to be a good actor. rocky is his best known performance but perhaps "cop land" is his finest work and much like van dammes "jcvd" made his critics eat their words.

[LJJ]

depp-great actor(an alltime great highly likely) funny thing about depp, he was really popular in a huge cult sense all through his career as he deliberatly avoided mainstream films, then he did pirates and became hugely popular- everyone else jumped off, how pathetic is that? especially as in actual fact his best work has come post pirates.
*often overlooked classic performance to see- "ed wood" "the libertine"

Yup. :oldlol:

[ElPigto]

Can't believe people liked Shutter Island. I thought the movie sucked.

[Jailblazers7]

Can't believe people liked Shutter Island. I thought the movie sucked.

The score alone made that movie good.

[leopoldstotch]

depp-great actor(an alltime great highly likely) funny thing about depp, he was really popular in a huge cult sense all through his career as he deliberatly avoided mainstream films, then he did pirates and became hugely popular- everyone else jumped off, how pathetic is that? especially as in actual fact his best work has come post pirates.
*often overlooked classic performance to see- "ed wood" "the libertine"



one of my personal faves he did was the adaptation to stephen king's novel "the secret window". he played that role flawlessly, and portrayed the original character in the book to the bit.

[leopoldstotch]

Can't believe people liked Shutter Island. I thought the movie sucked.

i don't know about you guys, but i thought shutter island was a pretty good movie. :confusedshrug:

but leo wasn't my fav in that movie. i liked michelle williams more. :lol

[ElPigto]

The score alone made that movie good.

I don't know man. I figured out what was going on since the beginning and I just got bored throughout the movie. I'm not a fan of those type of movies though so I guess that's why I didn't like it.

[rufuspaul]

My faves in order:

Phillip Seymore Hoffman
Viggo Mortensen
Robert Downy Jr.
Depp
Leo

Watch out for Chris Samuels though. He's unheard of now but he will soon surpass everyone. You heard it here first.

[Snoop_Cat]

ukplayer - yeah, no offense taken and thanks for the breakdown. its true, i watch most movies purely for the entertainment aspect

[Extempo]

Um wow @ some of the names guys are throwing out here.

-Brad Pitt? I will never know why he is rated so high in these forums. You guys must have a man-crush on him. He's just a pretty boy.
-Johnny Depp? Not in Leo's league...tell me one role he's exceeded in which he is not playing a crazy, eccentric character? Very one-dimensional actor.
-Daniel Day Lewis? Talented but overrated as hell. He's given too much credit for being a "method actor." Sean Penn >>> DDL.
-Phillip Seymore Hoffman? Good actor but he's not done enough work to be known as the greatest.

Leo Dicaprio is the Tom Hanks of our generation. That is all.

[heyhey]

Um wow @ some of the names guys are throwing out here.

-Brad Pitt? I will never know why he is rated so high in these forums. You guys must have a man-crush on him. He's just a pretty boy.
-Johnny Depp? Not in Leo's league...tell me one role he's exceeded in which he is not playing a crazy, eccentric character? Very one-dimensional actor.
-Daniel Day Lewis? Talented but overrated as hell. He's given too much credit for being a "method actor." Sean Penn >>> DDL.
-Phillip Seymore Hoffman? Good actor but he's not done enough work to be known as the greatest.

Leo Dicaprio is the Tom Hanks of our generation. That is all.

:wtf: Sean Penn is an overrated self important ret@rd. DDL is the real deal.


And depending on the age of the posters here, I don't even know if we are all in the same generation?

On a capricious note, Ben Stiller and Bill Murray deserves mention for being two of the best comedic actors of any generation.

[leopoldstotch]

:wtf: Sean Penn is an overrated self important ret@rd. DDL is the real deal.


"You went full retard, man. Never go full retard. You don't buy that? Ask Sean Penn, 2001, "I Am Sam." Remember? Went full retard, went home empty handed... " -- Tropic Thunder

:lol

[Rizko]

-Johnny Depp? Not in Leo's league...tell me one role he's exceeded in which he is not playing a crazy, eccentric character? Very one-dimensional
See him in Blow and Donnie Brasco. I'm sure Uk or another move aficionado could add on to this, but these are 2 movies that come to mind.

In Donnie Brasco Depp plays an FBI informant trying to take down an Italian mafia family.

In Blow Depp is a drug smuggler who works for Pablo Escobar's and started the explosion of coke use in the 70's

Needless to say Depp doesn't play some "Jack Sparrow" role in either of these movies, that you and plowking thinks he's limited to.

[heyhey]

See him in Blow and Donnie Brasco. I'm sure Uk or another move aficionado could add on to this, but these are 2 movies that come to mind.

In Donnie Brasco Depp plays an FBI informant trying to take down an Italian mafia family.

In Blow Depp is a drug smuggler who works for Pablo Escobar's and started the explosion of coke use in the 70's

Needless to say Depp doesn't play some "Jack Sparrow" role in either of these movies, that you and plowking thinks he's limited to.

Those were all earlier in Depp's career, Blow was in 2000 but that's like a decade before. Recently Depp has become like a caricature of himself. All his more recent roles are very similar to each other. I have become rather bored of Time Burton's affairs staring Johnny Depp. The dude needs to retool his career imo.

Cillian Murphy is one of the best actors of MY generation, birthdate 1990 or later.
Him joseph gordon levitt, and michael pitt are some of the young actors I really enjoy.

[Rizko]

Those were all earlier in Depp's career, Blow was in 2000 but that's like a decade before.
I know they were earlier, but people are saying he is 1 dimensional when he clearly isn't. I do agree he needs to stop with the Tim Burton collabos, but I've also never really been a fan of Tim Burton films so I have a bias.

[LJJ]

I know they were earlier, but people are saying he is 1 dimensional when he clearly isn't. I do agree he needs to stop with the Tim Burton collabos, but I've also never really been a fan of Tim Burton films so I have a bias.

I don't think you are biased. I really like Burton's work (well, some of it), but the Depp/Burton combination has gotten stale.

Burton needs to stop using Depp every movie, using Depp as his lead every movie. (In many ways I feel the same regarding the DiCaprio/Scorsese duo) You can tell these duo's are a bit too comfortable with each other.

[Jackass18]

i do like edward norton, but however, his peak was the 90s with films such as:

Primal Fear
Rounders
American History X
Fight Club

did 1 good movie in the 2000s (Death to Smoochy). All the rest of his movies were not good to meh.

What are you talking about? The Score, Red Dragon, 25th Hour, The Italian Job, The Illusionist, and The Incredible Hulk were all good movies. I haven't seen his others.

[Jackass18]

On a capricious note, Ben Stiller and Bill Murray deserves mention for being two of the best comedic actors of any generation.

Ben Stiller? He's rather mediocre.

[LJJ]

My faves in order:

Phillip Seymore Hoffman
Viggo Mortensen
Robert Downy Jr.
Depp
Leo

Watch out for Chris Samuels though. He's unheard of now but he will soon surpass everyone. You heard it here first.

I swear I'm the only ISH member who thinks Mortensen, Seymour Hoffman and Norton aren't that good. Something must be wrong with me.

[Jackass18]

Yeah, there's something seriously wrong with you if you don't think Norton is that good. I think PSH and Mortensen are a tad bit overrated, but still really good actors.

[Tito Beasley]

I swear I'm the only ISH member who thinks Mortensen, Seymour Hoffman and Norton aren't that good. Something must be wrong with me.

I've only seen the one Mortensen flick, A History Of Violence. I thought it was boring and slightly corny. And nothing about his performance stood out to me.

I also agree Hoffman and Norton are good but not great. Capote and Fight Club both did very little for me. American History X was a good movie, but Norton's character didnt require much.


I do have to agree with what someone said about phillip seymour hoffman in along came polly tho, his character was freaking hilarious.

[heyhey]

Ben Stiller? He's rather mediocre.

His performance in the Royal Tenenbaums is just unbelievably good.

He's also an above average writer. Zoolander was unfairly panned by critics imo, partly due to the fact it was released right around 9/11.

his body of work is certainly not mediocre.

[Saintsfan1992]

I think Morgan freeman and denzel
Robert di nario or how ever u spell it
Don chedle
Tomy Hanks

are better than Leo

[heyhey]

I think Morgan freeman and denzel
Robert di nario or how ever u spell it
Don chedle
Tomy Hanks

are better than Leo

None of those guys except maybe Denzel and Cheadle are in Leo's geneartion:confusedshrug:

[macmac]

I think Morgan freeman and denzel
Robert di nario or how ever u spell it
Don chedle
Tomy Hanks

are better than Leo

If you can't spell three quarters of the names you mention, your opinion does not count.

[Saintsfan1992]

If you can't spell three quarters of the names you mention, your opinion does not count.

And you are again???

[Saintsfan1992]

None of those guys except maybe Denzel and Cheadle are in Leo's geneartion:confusedshrug:

i just said who i thought was better i mostly jus watch movies jus to watch them not examine the actors or compare their movies
im a causal movie watcher

I mean my fav movies are zombie movies so yea
sorry :confusedshrug:

[macmac]

And you are again???

I am the individual that is letting you know whatsup

[Saintsfan1992]

I am the individual that is letting you know whatsup

and ill jus tell u i do what i please if u got a porblem we can virtual fight *****
but i must tell u i fight dirty :no:

[macmac]

and ill jus tell u i do what i please if u got a porblem we can virtual fight *****
but i must tell u i fight dirty :no:

All Im saying is that if you're under the age of 13 or you suffer from mental retardation, or perhaps an unfortunate combination of both, then your opinion holds no weight here and you might wanna check out the main forum instead of wasting the great effort you're making in placing words in a certain order, which best case scenario come across as semi-intelligble, in the OTC.

[Saintsfan1992]

All Im saying is that if you're under the age of 13 or you suffer from mental retardation, or perhaps an unfortunate combination of both, then your opinion holds no weight here and you might wanna check out the main forum instead of wasting the great effort you're making in placing words in a certain order, which best case scenario come across as semi-intelligble, in the OTC.

I dont know why im arguing with a 30+ year old
that has no job over my opinion
i mean jesus ok Leo is the best :roll:

[macmac]

I dont know why im arguing with a 30+ year old
that has no job over my opinion
i mean jesus ok Leo is the best :roll:

Im 25 and have amassed close to a third of a million so far in cash flow on top of my assets.

You obviously have a very simple mind, for you not to realize the limits of your intellectual capabilities leads me to believe you've lead a very sheltered life. I'm just trying to slowly ease you into the cruel world that will eventually expose you to the depths of your ignorance.

[leopoldstotch]

Yeah, there's something seriously wrong with you if you don't think Norton is that good. I think PSH and Mortensen are a tad bit overrated, but still really good actors.

as far as mortensen goes, i am sure some of us are LOTR nerds, so he gets an automatic gold pass right there just as william shatner and leanord nimoy and trekkie fans and harrison ford and star wars fans. :lol

and i do agree we should acknowledge some of denzel's and cheadle's works. should we give denzel a golden pass just for his work in training day? :lol

[macmac]

I dont know why im arguing with a 30+ year old
that has no job over my opinion
i mean jesus ok Leo is the best :roll:

You PM me when they make fun of you, okay buddy?

[Saintsfan1992]

Im 25 and have amassed close to a third of a million so far in cash flow on top of my assets.

You obviously have a very simple mind, for you not to realize the limits of your intellectual capabilities leads me to believe you've lead a very sheltered life. I'm just trying to slowly ease you into the cruel world that will eventually expose you to the depths of your ignorance.


And im MJ
and why are u still chating with me ????

[Saintsfan1992]

You PM me when they make fun of you, okay buddy?

Yea cause i give a shit what a bunch of people i dont know
think about and or make fun of me on a Fin Message board
i mean come on dude u claim you have so much money why are u on here and
not living life? :roll:

[macmac]

And im MJ
and why are u still chating with me ????

It's fun to crush people. But you're right I have to leave now. Hopefully I can crush you again in the near future.

[Saintsfan1992]

It's fun to crush people. But you're right I have to leave now. Hopefully I can crush you again in the near future.

so i have been crushed on a message board :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[embersyc]

DiCaprio has just been lucky to be in some good movies along the way. Anybody could have played his roles in The Departed and in Inception.

For people saying Pitt is overrated. Please.

Check out 12 Monkeys, Fight Club, Troy, Snatch, etc... the dude has massive range and creates characters that cannot be seperated from him at the same time.

[Jackass18]

as far as mortensen goes, i am sure some of us are LOTR nerds, so he gets an automatic gold pass right there just as william shatner and leanord nimoy and trekkie fans and harrison ford and star wars fans. :lol

and i do agree we should acknowledge some of denzel's and cheadle's works. should we give denzel a golden pass just for his work in training day? :lol

You can't give anyone a pass just for 1 movie. Denzel has plenty of other really good roles outside of Alonzo Harris. As for Ford, I prefer Indy over Hans Solo.

[leopoldstotch]

You can't give anyone a pass just for 1 movie. Denzel has plenty of other really good roles outside of Alonzo Harris. As for Ford, I prefer Indy over Hans Solo.

i know. just kidding about denzel. i think he's a good actor. hell i thought he was solid as jesus shuttlesworth's dad in "he got game". :lol

as for Ford, i prefer him in star wars over indy. his performance in "the last crusade" with sean connery though comes in real close for me.

[vapid]

I never considered Viggo in any talk about greatest actor of any generation. He's pretty solid and I'll never feel bad knowing he's playing the part but I'm never blown away by his acting.

[RedBlackAttack]

Let's just be completely honest about this... DDL sh!ts all over any other nominees in this category. I don't care if he only averages one movie every few years and goes long stretches with no activity.

That is part of what makes him so damn good... You can't put the kind of commitment that he enters into every role and churn out multiple movies every year.

There is no one that puts more into a role. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwkP7Gnp7ek) And it shows.

[pete's montreux]

this thread sucks

[knobs]

piss head f*cks

[Nanners]

Black actors dont get enough respect. Almost all of my favorite actors from the past decade are black

Denzel
Morgan Freeman
Eddie Murphy
Kanye
Will Smith
Chris Tucker

[Meticode]

Black actors dont get enough respect. Almost all of my favorite actors from the past decade are black

Denzel
Morgan Freeman
Eddie Murphy
Kanye
Will Smith
Chris Tucker
For what?

[Nanners]

For what?

Bowfinger, Norbit, Pluto Nash???

[leopoldstotch]

back to the original topic (Leonardo DiCaprio)

just watched Revolutionary Road. wow. I have to say Leo can never be in a bad movie. The movie was excellently executed. That year was a real tough year for Oscar nominations, but he should have gotten at least a nomination for his performance. ah well ....

[rezznor]

Inception, The Aviator, Shutter Island, The Departed, Gangs of New York, Blood Diamond, The Basketball Diaries, Catch me if you can, Revolutionary Road, Titanic. Can you name another actor in the last 20 years who has delived such a range of amazing performances. No one comes close. Give the man an Oscar this year. He's been robbed twice already.

Leo Dicaprio= :bowdown:
hell **** no

[vapid]

back to the original topic (Leonardo DiCaprio)

just watched Revolutionary Road. wow. I have to say Leo can never be in a bad movie. The movie was excellently executed. That year was a real tough year for Oscar nominations, but he should have gotten at least a nomination for his performance. ah well ....
Kate Winslet owned that movie, overshadowing Dicaprio.

[leopoldstotch]

Kate Winslet owned that movie, overshadowing Dicaprio.

kate winslet was good.
kathy bates was great.
michael shannon was awesome. my favorite character in the movie.

that movie is excellent from front to back.

[raiderfan19]

This far in and no one has mentioned matt damon? Also if were gonna include older actors like ford, anthony hopkins should get a nod.

Hes definitely not on this list either but as far as range goes, kevin spacey can match just about anyone.

[vapid]

Matt damon? really?

[raiderfan19]

Matt damon? really?
Rounders, Good Will Hunting, The Departed, Oceans 11 and 13, The Bourne Identity, Talented Mr. Ripley, Saving Private Ryan, The Legend of Bagger Vance

[vapid]

Rounders, Good Will Hunting, The Departed, Oceans 11 and 13, The Bourne Identity, Talented Mr. Ripley, Saving Private Ryan, The Legend of Bagger Vance
All pretty good movies but I don't see any outstanding performances. (I haven't seen Bagger Vance or Ripley though)

[raiderfan19]

All pretty good movies but I don't see any outstanding performances. (I haven't seen Bagger Vance or Ripley though)
Ripley is probably the best performance of that group but also my least favorite of those movies. Also i would say that his performances in good will hunting and rounders were as good as anything most of the other people mentioned in this thread have done.

[leopoldstotch]

matt damon is good. he isn't great. i did like his performances in bagger vance (good movie. will smith was actually good in the movie too) and the talented mr ripley. i have faith he's going to grow into some deeper films in the future.

but does anyone figure the only reason why he was in the departed because he has a bostonian accent and scorcese felt that was the best for the movie? :lol

[rufuspaul]

All pretty good movies but I don't see any outstanding performances. (I haven't seen Bagger Vance or Ripley though)

Ripley had some great performances all around from Damon, Jude Law, PSH. I like Milos Forman as a director.

[embersyc]

Matt Damon's acting is somewhat like the feces of a man who eats nothing but corn on the cob.

[rufuspaul]

I swear I'm the only ISH member who thinks Mortensen, Seymour Hoffman and Norton aren't that good. Something must be wrong with me.

It's just personal taste, no right or wrong. Chris Samuels though, he's gonna be the shiznit.

[leopoldstotch]

It's just personal taste, no right or wrong. Chris Samuels though, he's gonna be the shiznit.

hopefully you're talking about the football player for the redskins right? :lol

[rufuspaul]

hopefully you're talking about the football player for the redskins right? :lol

:oldlol: No just a friendly jab at Starface. He's poised to take over the entertainment world.

[Tito Beasley]

All pretty good movies but I don't see any outstanding performances.


This. My problem with guys like DiCaprio and Damon are that they always look the same and talk the same. They may play characters with different personalities or agendas but they really don't change anything for each role (with the occasional weak boston accent now and then). None of their characters are unique. Anyone with a handsome face and a little acting experience could play the roles these guys do. Just because they're the centerpieces of good movies, does not really make them that irreplaceable or talented.

[Jackass18]

Ripley is probably the best performance of that group but also my least favorite of those movies. Also i would say that his performances in good will hunting and rounders were as good as anything most of the other people mentioned in this thread have done.

Norton was much better in Rounders than Damon.

[Andrei89]

Leo's best work was in 'What's Eating Gilbert Grape?'. He is not the best actor of his generation, but that's not to say he isn't solid. He's grown on me since I thought he would be just another one-dimensional skinny pretty boy after Titanic, but watch Gangs of New York again and tell me if he was even the best actor in that movie and then we'll talk about the generational debate.


I love Leo but fk if he was the best in gangs of new york.

Daniel Day Lewis all day.

[brooks_thompson]

daniel day-lewis is my favorite actor. he's got a magnetism, an intensity to him that's akin to al pacino in his heyday.


BUT i feel like daniel day-lewis plays characters who know they are in a movie.

[ukplayer4]

daniel day-lewis is my favorite actor. he's got a magnetism, an intensity to him that's akin to al pacino in his heyday.


BUT i feel like daniel day-lewis plays characters who know they are in a movie.



very good point, he certainly brings a performance. it is important to consider that film should have restraint and refinement over the theatre- which is the main grounds for critiquing the old stage actors. there is rather alot of performance in what ddl does. and perhaps this is the reason why he is exceptionaly picky about roles. he loves the size and meat of the roles he does but is careful to choose characters in which this is neccesary.

[Heilige]

obviously you only watch the big mainstream films, no disrespect intended. ill try and do a little breakdown with some films you may not have seen these guys in.



deniro- great actor(all time great) the morons rate him purely on his gangsta films but so many of his greatest performances are from elsewhere.
*often overlooked classic performance to see- "awakenings"

depp-great actor(an alltime great highly likely) funny thing about depp, he was really popular in a huge cult sense all through his career as he deliberatly avoided mainstream films, then he did pirates and became hugely popular- everyone else jumped off, how pathetic is that? especially as in actual fact his best work has come post pirates.
*often overlooked classic performance to see- "ed wood" "the libertine"

dicaprio- good actor, still rising, see my earlier post on him
*blood diamond is his best performance imo

denzel- does a wide range of roles and does them well, has the presence, tough for me to rank him cause i havent seen alot of his best work.
*"hurricane" i remember being good.

tom hanks- hhmmm, i actually find him quite boring to watch alot of the time but then i see him doing good work in good films.
*"castaway" was a great, great performance.

morgan freeman- who doesnt love morgan freeman, rarely the lead but has done some of the finest support to so many great films, he has that screen presence also but is pretty limited
*he was born to play mandela "invictus" and it may be his best performance but has he ever added more to a film than he did in the splendid "march of the penguins" he only narrates but its perfect.

will smith- does what he says on his tin, draws in the masses and has likeable appeal, been in plenty of crap and doesnt seem to want to be considered as much of a great actor as he is a comodity.
*"i am legend" whilst not a great film was imo one of smiths best performances

harrison ford- is very much like will smith, demands a huge amount of money and wont do films for less than his fee (10 mill) because of this he has had to only do crap for the last 20 years and clearly doesnt care, harrison ford goes against the mentality of the actor.
im not gonna recomend anything from him, he goes against the art of film making, although hes been good in plenty of good films.

hugh jackman- the jury is out, hes only done one good performance in two serious films and he was very good although alot of credit for this is possibly attributable to the genuis of the director, therefore ill still recomend it to you
"the fountain" easily his best, and only great performance.

sylvester stallone-
every 15 years or so he reminds us that he has the ability to be a good actor. rocky is his best known performance but perhaps "cop land" is his finest work and much like van dammes "jcvd" made his critics eat their words.



Nice analysis! :applause: :applause:

In your opinion, who would you say are the top 15-20 greatest actors of all time, and why?

[Rizko]

In your opinion, who would you say are the top 15-20 greatest actors of all time, and why?
I can't speak for Uk, but it would be really hard to rate the 20 best actors ever, especially since finding film for older actors (like people from the 30's) is harder then finding for more recent actors.

Why do you wanted them ranked anyways?

[Bet On Gold]

Rounders, Good Will Hunting, The Departed, Oceans 11 and 13, The Bourne Identity, Talented Mr. Ripley, Saving Private Ryan, The Legend of Bagger Vance

In every single one of those movies, I say he wasn't even the best actor:

Rounders - Ed Norton
GWH - I guess I'll give it to him there, since he was primarily in every scene.
The Departed - DiCaprio stole the show, IMO, even outdoing Jack.
Oceans 11: Cheadle, end of story.
Talented Mr. Ripley - Seymour or Jude were better
SPR - Tom Hanks was better

I really don't like this guy, he is like Tom Cruise to me; starred in many great movies but his acting to me is so one dimensional.

[Heilige]

I can't speak for Uk, but it would be really hard to rate the 20 best actors ever, especially since finding film for older actors (like people from the 30's) is harder then finding for more recent actors.

Why do you wanted them ranked anyways?


I am just curious on his thoughts regarding stuff like that; he seems very knowledgebale?

I was also going to ask what his thoughts were on this list:

http://www.freewebs.com/top100actors/index.htm


They list the top 20 as the following....

1. Robert De Niro

2. Al Pacino

3. Jack Nicholson

4. Paul Newman

5. Robert Duvall

6. Johnny Depp

7. Gene Hackman

8. Philip Seymour Hoffman

9. Dustin Hoffman

10. Michael Caine

11. Meryl Streep

12. Cate Blanchett

13. Tom Hanks

14. Liv Ullmann

15. Harrison Ford

16. Morgan Freeman

17. Daniel Day-Lewis

18. Russell Crowe

19. Albert Finney

20. Julianne Moore

[heyhey]

I am just curious on his thoughts regarding stuff like that; he seems very knowledgebale?

I was also going to ask what his thoughts were on this list:

http://www.freewebs.com/top100actors/index.htm


They list the top 20 as the following....

1. Robert De Niro

2. Al Pacino

3. Jack Nicholson

4. Paul Newman

5. Robert Duvall

6. Johnny Depp

7. Gene Hackman

8. Philip Seymour Hoffman

9. Dustin Hoffman

10. Michael Caine

11. Meryl Streep

12. Cate Blanchett

13. Tom Hanks

14. Liv Ullmann

15. Harrison Ford

16. Morgan Freeman

17. Daniel Day-Lewis

18. Russell Crowe

19. Albert Finney

20. Julianne Moore


Your list is pretty skewed towards actors of older generation no? I feel like a lot of the actors you listed are only there because the number of films in their body of work and not cause of peak performance.

All of those actors are also all mainstream and big production actors. Should have included more actors renowned in independent cinema or smaller productions. Foreign actors are also conspicously absent.

since you posted your list I'm just giving my thoughts, no offense meant.

[Heilige]

Your list is pretty skewed towards actors of older generation no? I feel like a lot of the actors you listed are only there because the number of films in their body of work and not cause of peak performance.

All of those actors are also all mainstream and big production actors. Should have included more actors renowned in independent cinema or smaller productions. Foreign actors are also conspicously absent.

since you posted your list I'm just giving my thoughts, no offense meant.


It's all good; that list was from the above link I posted.

How would you have ranked the top 20?

[leopoldstotch]

if we're going to throw in the older generations, we might as well start discussing jack nicholson and his 3 oscars and 12 oscar nominations for either best actor or best supporting actor. :lol

[MasterDurant24]

I like Daniel Day Lewis better than Leonardo.

[Jackass18]

Ranking the greatest actors would be rather difficult. That link you gave kind of shows why.

[brooks_thompson]

julianne moore huh. this must be a different julianne moore we're talkin about


and honestly, i think actresses of this generation is a better question. i can't think of any solid contenders.

[Gundress]

Does anyone remember this movie? Leo vs Robert Deniro fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLM_C64Xhg

[miller-time]

Does anyone remember this movie? Leo vs Robert Deniro fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLM_C64Xhg

thats pretty crazy, i might have to watch the movie.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Doesn't really matter if Leonardo is overrated or not... His movies are the $hit.

much better movies than Depp or DLD... or any other actor.

same goes for Christian Bale... he could very well be overrated as an actor (I don't think so)... but his movies are the best.

So Bale and Leo are my two favorite actors at the moment.

[ukplayer4]

Doesn't really matter if Leonardo is overrated or not... His movies are the $hit.

much better movies than Depp or DLD... or any other actor.

same goes for Christian Bale... he could very well be overrated as an actor (I don't think so)... but his movies are the best.

So Bale and Leo are my two favorite actors at the moment.



if i was ranking the top 15-20 so films of the decade for me there will be blood is there, so is finding neverland and maybe even sweeney todd. as much as i like him dicaprio doesnt have a film there, neither does bale(not by a long shot) dark knight might scrape my top 40-50, ditto for aviator. if you want to just talk about the actors that are most consistently in the best mainstream films id have to say george clooney is right there, so is pitt, depp and dicaprio but certainly not bale.

[brooks_thompson]

all i know is i just traded away almost all of my dvds today, save for about 10. the only one i kept from 2000-2010 was there will be blood

[HAzE024]

This. My problem with guys like DiCaprio and Damon are that they always look the same and talk the same. They may play characters with different personalities or agendas but they really don't change anything for each role (with the occasional weak boston accent now and then). None of their characters are unique. Anyone with a handsome face and a little acting experience could play the roles these guys do. Just because they're the centerpieces of good movies, does not really make them that irreplaceable or talented.

I think many people are making a huge mistake when talking about Leo's range. Just because Leo LOOKS the same in most of his movies, he plays different very different PEOPLE. Look at his character in The Beach (my fav movie by the way) compared to his character in Shutter Island or Inception or the Departed. Very different personalities. The ironic part is his main rival in this thread, Johnny Depp, essentially plays the same zany character type in many of his movies but because he LOOKS so different, because of pounds of makeup/hair product or CGI everyone claims "he has sooo much range". LOL seriously people, film is visual medium but acting is about portrayal.

[brooks_thompson]

I think many people are making a huge mistake when talking about Leo's range. Just because Leo LOOKS the same in most of his movies, he plays different very different PEOPLE. Look at his character in The Beach (my fav movie by the way) compared to his character in Shutter Island or Inception or the Departed. Very different personalities. The ironic part is his main rival in this thread, Johnny Depp, essentially plays the same zany character type in many of his movies but because he LOOKS so different, because of pounds of makeup/hair product or CGI everyone claims "he has sooo much range". LOL seriously people, film is visual medium but acting is about portrayal.

i don't disagree about depp, but leo just doesn't sell his roles enough. he always has the same speech patterns, the same inflection, and, like somebody else said, he occasionally does it with a new england/boston accent.

catch me if you can vs. shutter island

he doesn't do enough to immerse himself in either role, despite playing extremely different characters, to validate your claim. IN MY OPINION

[raiderfan19]

In every single one of those movies, I say he wasn't even the best actor:

Rounders - Ed Norton
GWH - I guess I'll give it to him there, since he was primarily in every scene.
The Departed - DiCaprio stole the show, IMO, even outdoing Jack.
Oceans 11: Cheadle, end of story.
Talented Mr. Ripley - Seymour or Jude were better
SPR - Tom Hanks was better

I really don't like this guy, he is like Tom Cruise to me; starred in many great movies but his acting to me is so one dimensional.
everyone in the film outdid jack in the departed because jack was terrible in the departed.

[rezznor]

I think many people are making a huge mistake when talking about Leo's range. Just because Leo LOOKS the same in most of his movies, he plays different very different PEOPLE. Look at his character in The Beach (my fav movie by the way) compared to his character in Shutter Island or Inception or the Departed. Very different personalities. The ironic part is his main rival in this thread, Johnny Depp, essentially plays the same zany character type in many of his movies but because he LOOKS so different, because of pounds of makeup/hair product or CGI everyone claims "he has sooo much range". LOL seriously people, film is visual medium but acting is about portrayal.
no. you are just thinking of his last few recent ones. you do realize he made movies before pirates of the caribbean right?

what about The Libertine? Once upon a time in mexico? Blow? Fear and loathing in las vegas? donnie brasco? ed wood? gilbert grape? benny and joon? chocolat? from hell?

[ROCSteady]

It's all good; that list was from the above link I posted.

How would you have ranked the top 20?

Why is Kate Winslet not on this list? Or Gary Oldman :mad:

[ROCSteady]

all i know is i just traded away almost all of my dvds today, save for about 10. the only one i kept from 2000-2010 was there will be blood


:no: Traded them for what?! Blasphemy!! I'm in need of further expendable income as well but never the film collection!! :cry:

[scuzzy]

can't believe it's been 10 years since Inception



where you at Leo, c'mon

[bladefd]

can't believe it's been 10 years since Inception



where you at Leo, c'mon

Wolf of Wall Street (2013) and Revenant (2015) were great movies..

Nothing since though. Guy is too busy banging supermodel after supermodel nowadays to bother with movies. :oldlol:

[Kblaze8855]

Hes starring in the new Tarantino movie with Brad Pitt this summer.

[kennethgriffen]

i gotta go with gary oldman or daniel day lewis


leos mostly played himself amplified which is cool in a jack nicholson sorta way but true acting talent is being unrecognizable for most movies


but thats just my vote.. tom hanks is the goat by majority opinion currently on ranker

[coin24]

There hasn't been that many decent movies anymore though..
it's only superheroes or remakes of trash these days/ netflix crap.. I don't see Leo wanting a bar of that shit, stick to supermodels and enjoying life..