Lamar Doom + Zero training... would destroy Charlie Z.

[Doomsday Dallas]

I'm a tall skinny dude like Charlie Z... I know damn well short stocky guys will whip my @ss in the ring. (street fight is different).

All Lamar Doom has to do is either play the "rope a dope" strategy.... or go in for the kill as soon as the bell rings.

But if you try to box him he might have a chance.


So Lamar Doom... if you are out there and your reading this... Either go for Tyson Style or Ali "rope-a-dope" Style and you will win.

I honestly would pay $100 to see this fight.

[Moan]

Take no offense, but why are you getting involved in someone elses drama? You have the knowledge to do better then this dooms... no need to instigate this childish "beef".

[Doomsday Dallas]

Take no offense, but why are you getting involved in someone elses drama? You have the knowledge to do better then this dooms... no need to instigate this childish "beef".


That's exactly what it is though:

Childish Beef.


I just want to see Charlie Z and Doom in the ring... and I would pay $100 to see it.

[Moan]

That's exactly what it is though:

Childish Beef.


I just want to see Charlie Z and Doom in the ring... and I would pay $100 to see it.

Do you honestly see it happening?

[Lamar Doom]

I'm actually taller than him, I'm 6'1 he's 6. I got 60 pounds on him too... I'm at work right now, typing on iPhone, I'll give you the full story (it's very funny and still not over) when I get home :)

[Quizno]

I'm actually taller than him, I'm 6'1 he's 6. I got 60 pounds on him too... I'm at work right now, typing on iPhone, I'll give you the full story (it's very funny and still not over) when I get home :)
yesssssssssssssss

[Moan]

I'm actually taller than him, I'm 6'1 he's 6. I got 60 pounds on him too... I'm at work right now, typing on iPhone, I'll give you the full story (it's very funny and still not over) when I get home :)

Don't leave me out of the loop, this is thread of the year worthy stuff dooms.

[simcjt]

I'm actually taller than him, I'm 6'1 he's 6. I got 60 pounds on him too... I'm at work right now, typing on iPhone, I'll give you the full story (it's very funny and still not over) when I get home :)
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Press release coming soon

[Quizno]

by the way lamar, update us in this thread (http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=185287&page=4)!

[Doomsday Dallas]

I'm actually taller than him, I'm 6'1 he's 6. I got 60 pounds on him too... I'm at work right now, typing on iPhone, I'll give you the full story (it's very funny and still not over) when I get home :)


You still got the weight.

You would destroy him.

[plowking]

Why would a short stocky guy have an advantage over a tall skinny guy?

Tall guy would have reach all day and could work on that all day if need be in the ring.

[Moan]

Why would a short stocky guy have an advantage over a tall skinny guy?

Tall guy would have reach all day and could work on that all day if need be in the ring.


umm reread?

although 1'' doesn't mean much, they are ~ the same in height. So short and stocky guy doesn't quite fit the bill here. However not that i encourage it, i would put my money on Charlie Z only because he has some experience and i don't think the extra weight lamar's carrying will make a difference.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Why would a short stocky guy have an advantage over a tall skinny guy?

Tall guy would have reach all day and could work on that all day if need be in the ring.

How tall was Tyson?

he got killed against Lewis.... but how tall was Tyson?

[plowking]

How tall was Tyson?

he got killed against Lewis.... but how tall was Tyson?

5'11... 6 foot. Though who'd he fight?

[plowking]

umm reread?

although 1'' doesn't mean much, they are ~ the same in height. So short and stocky guy doesn't quite fit the bill here. However not that i encourage it, i would put my money on Charlie Z only because he has some experience and i don't think the extra weight lamar's carrying will make a difference.

It was in context to Doomsdays first post.

I have no doubt Lamar would beat Charlie, I'm not questioning that.

[Styles p]

lmao just watching random charlie z shit on youtube what a troll.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxm418SG-c&feature=related hahaha

[Moan]

http://www.youtube.com/user/ZDaddyy#p/a/u/0/gZjNTiBho1Q

[Styles p]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQwKp_j5bg4&feature=related
this one is great you can totally tell he does not smoke cigarettes.

[-playmaker-]

I'm a tall skinny dude like Charlie Z... I know damn well short stocky guys will whip my @ss in the ring. (street fight is different).

All Lamar Doom has to do is either play the "rope a dope" strategy.... or go in for the kill as soon as the bell rings.

But if you try to box him he might have a chance.


So Lamar Doom... if you are out there and your reading this... Either go for Tyson Style or Ali "rope-a-dope" Style and you will win.

I honestly would pay $100 to see this fight.

you're like in the 180-190 range dude...

Charlie is like 140...

[c3zz4rr]

Well im still a noob here but from what i've seen and read I would agree that lamar doom would beat him. I mean z lost against this dude

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?cat=boxer&human_id=260189 , which from what I can see is a very weak boxer .

Btw I also found their fight if anybody is interested http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlxtDLPKnDA&feature=related

Charlie wasn't showing that he's that good, tbh I dont think he even hit the dude once

[hayden695]

I think my favourite was "knuckle pushups motherf*cker" such an idiot. And styles he doesn't look at all like he smokes.

[-playmaker-]

"light welterweight"...just looked it up has a max of 140...

that means Charlie Z is in the 135 range probably...

6 foot...135

[Styles p]

http://www.youtube.com/user/ZDaddyy#p/u/32/KaYF3zQBgU8
omg charlie z got a girl.

btw he would get knocked out by anyone decent. he punches from his hips always leaving his face wide the **** open.

[hayden695]

"light welterweight"...just looked it up has a max of 140...

that means Charlie Z is in the 135 range probably...

6 foot...135
Holy shit. I have a broom that weighs more. I am not a big guy but that is pretty sad. Especially for someone who does a mean knuckle pushup (on concrete!)

[-playmaker-]

Holy shit. I have a broom that weighs more. I am not a big guy but that is pretty sad. Especially for someone who does a mean knuckle pushup (on concrete!)
well, there is a whole weight class full of fighters that size...

Floyd was fighting at 130 lbs. when he started...

Manny actually started at 106...:eek: ...of coarse it says he was only 16 then...

Manny is 5' 7" and Floyd is 5' 8" though...Charlie is a 6 footer

[deion2123]

zelenoff won't show up to fight...he is a pvssy

[chungerball]

zelenoff won't show up to fight...he is a pvssy

I love it when a Charlie Z thread pops up, you come lurkin!!! Awesome stuff dude.:lol

[NuggetsFan]

I've never understood why people talk about height\weight when discussing a fight that doesn't include guys who do it for a living or have atleast trained. I've seen guys all sizes win or lose and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Weak to do it in the boxing ring if your not boxers(Charlie Z guy can't be for real).

Pretty awesome tho. I don't think I've ever heard of people actually getting in a fight over a forum(If that's the reason). Someone should host a MJ vs Kobe fan brawl.

[Styles p]

good ol charlie getting dissed by amanda... its cool tho next week he will have samantha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ErWQxKdNUY&feature=related

[B-Low]

"light welterweight"...just looked it up has a max of 140...

that means Charlie Z is in the 135 range probably...

6 foot...135

Thats just f*ckin nasty right there. I think im skinny and i'm 5'9 180 lbs. This dude could break if the wind blew too hard

[Lebron23]

The Charlie Z persona would be an amazing WWE gimmick.

[Brujesino]

I think charlie said he was 150 pounds. He might have fought at a smaller weight but he probably had to cut to make that weight:confusedshrug:

[DaniloGallinari]

Sounds like a boxing version of Donnie Brasco where LD goes undercover as a supporter of CZ, develops feelings and then pulls out. Only this time the undercover agent is challenged to a fight but never shows up.

[nolebball]

I think im skinny and i'm 5'9 180 lbs.

That's not skinny at all, those are Nate Robinson's measurements and he used to play college football lol

[-playmaker-]

Thats just f*ckin nasty right there. I think im skinny and i'm 5'9 180 lbs. This dude could break if the wind blew too hard
you aren't skinny at all dude...

infact if I had not seen pics of you and knew you were built I would assume that you were somewhat fat and need to lose weight...

you have the same disease Dooms has...you guys look in the mirror at 180 and some how see a skinny guy...

I am much closer to Charlie than either of you, I actually am skinny...I am 6 foot and around 160 or so give or take 5 pounds depending on..."stuff"

[-playmaker-]

I guess when Lamar said "when I get home" he ment "tomorrow"...

oh well...

[-playmaker-]

That's not skinny at all, those are Nate Robinson's measurements and he used to play college football lol
yeah, there are NFL players smaller than B-Low

http://media.nola.com/saints_impact/photo/jabari-greer5jpg-5ab9abd00267da92_large.jpg

Jabari Greer
Height: 5 ft 10 in
Weight: 176 lb

http://www.birdsfan.com/images/desean-jackson.jpg

DeSean Jackson
Height: 5 ft 10 in
Weight: 175 lb

http://www.mkrob.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/winfield.jpg

Antoine Winfield
Height: 5 ft 9 in
Weight: 180 lb



star players at that...

and yeah, I am bored...:lol

[RedBlackAttack]

<----Anxiously awaiting LD's rundown of what exactly has happened with a relationship that was once so strong.

...a bond thought to be unbreakable.

...best friends, now seemingly enemies.

...once brothers in arms, now glaring from across the battlefield.



The world is waiting for a response to this madness. Resolution must come soon or I will lose faith in my fellow man. If Charlie Z and LD are at war, then the world may truly never find real peace.

A sign of the times, I guess. A sad statement on honor, integrity and goodwill amongst all men.

I wept tonight and -- as a man -- I'm not afraid to admit to it.

I wept.

[-playmaker-]

<----Anxiously awaiting LD's rundown of what exactly has happened with a relationship that was once so strong.

...a bond thought to be unbreakable.

...best friends, now seemingly enemies.

...once brothers in arms, now glaring from across the battlefield.



The world is waiting for a response to this madness. Resolution must come soon or I will lose faith in my fellow man. If Charlie Z and LD are at war, then the world may truly never find real peace.

A sign of the times, I guess. A sad statement on honor, integrity and goodwill amongst all men.

I wept tonight and -- as a man -- I'm not afraid to admit to it.

I wept.
http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/2077/Larry-Merchant1.jpg

[Lamar Doom]

Charlie fights at 145. He walks around at 150. 6 foot, 150. He's actually quite tall and long for his weight, it would be a great attribute for a fighter if he wasn't such an mental case.

I got back late, there's a lot to tell, may have to finish post in the AM... stand by

[Brujesino]

I think charlie said he was 150 pounds. He might have fought at a smaller weight but he probably had to cut to make that weight



Charlie fights at 145. He walks around at 150. 6 foot, 150. He's actually quite tall and long for his weight, it would be a great attribute for a fighter if he wasn't such an mental case.

I got back late, there's a lot to tell, may have to finish post in the AM... stand by
knew it

[Jackass18]

Charlie fights at 145. He walks around at 150. 6 foot, 150. He's actually quite tall and long for his weight, it would be a great attribute for a fighter if he wasn't such an mental case.

You would think so until something like this happens:

http://mmamonkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/cory-hill-broken-leg.jpg

[Lamar Doom]

yikes that's gross. charlie has chicken legs for sure, I have huge calves and quads, i wish i knew sure fire ways to get through punches so i could just keep driving him and hulkamania slamming him. it would be funny to beat him up without throwing a punch since he claims i've never thrown one in my life

[JtotheIzzo]

make this sh*t happen, and tape it, internet fame for sure.

LD, you want to break deeper into Hollywood, and if you do a mini-doc about this, the internet buzz it would create may open the door wide open for you. "Message Board Beef Gone Bad" can be the working title for now. I am sure Charlie's internet shit is public property so you won't need to pay him for it, and you just need to film your own and spice up the tale. Get Jenna and the rest of the boxing clowns in on this and talk to some of Charlie's nemesis (plural) on the boxing msgbrd. Sleep on it and come back with a plan, then regale us with your tale.

word,
Unkie Jizz.

[chains5000]

make this sh*t happen, and tape it, internet fame for sure.

LD, you want to break deeper into Hollywood, and if you do a mini-doc about this, the internet buzz it would create may open the door wide open for you. "Message Board Beef Gone Bad" can be the working title for now. I am sure Charlie's internet shit is public property so you won't need to pay him for it, and you just need to film your own and spice up the tale. Get Jenna and the rest of the boxing clowns in on this and talk to some of Charlies nemesis (plural) on the boxing msgbrd. Sleep on it and come back with a plan, then regale us with your tale.

word,
Unkie Jizz.
Love the idea

[JtotheIzzo]

Love the idea

so much potential. getting back at the online bully, settling an online score, calling some msgbrd punk's bluff.

Lamar will beat his ass too, which will make it all the more hilarious. if he plays it like a spoof 'Rocky' (with training clips) and mixes in a bunch of interviews, and narrates past posts, shit would be crazy hilarious, because lets face facts, Charlie and his cocktail of obliviousness and cockiness is f*cking gold, and makes a great foil.

Shit, I should go to LA just to consult on this.

[Jackass18]

i wish i knew sure fire ways to get through punches so i could just keep driving him and hulkamania slamming him. it would be funny to beat him up without throwing a punch since he claims i've never thrown one in my life

Do what Kimbo did to Mercer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oihc7Rmfp0U

Rush him, clinch, and then slam him or take him down or whatever you want to do, but aren't there laws against beating up the mentally handicapped?

[Styles p]

Do what Kimbo did to Mercer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oihc7Rmfp0U

Rush him, clinch, and then slam him or take him down or whatever you want to do, but aren't there laws against beating up the mentally handicapped?

when you rush him look out for thos 750's

[GOBB]

I'm actually taller than him, I'm 6'1 he's 6. I got 60 pounds on him too... I'm at work right now, typing on iPhone, I'll give you the full story (it's very funny and still not over) when I get home :)

How is it typing on an iphone here?

[boozehound]

umm reread?

although 1'' doesn't mean much, they are ~ the same in height. So short and stocky guy doesn't quite fit the bill here. However not that i encourage it, i would put my money on Charlie Z only because he has some experience and i don't think the extra weight lamar's carrying will make a difference.
have you seen CZ throw a punch? his training doesnt seem to add up to much. hes 6' and 150? Cmon now

[Se]

Looking forward to Lamar's post.

What happens if they fight and Charlie knocks him out? Unlikely scenario, but it'd be classic.

[B-Low]

[QUOTE=Se

[pete's montreux]

i read every single post and i don't know what to say

but i agree with what rba said, i seriously think at this point it's evident that we're dealing with someone who has a skewed sense of reality and might actually have legit mental issues he's currently dealing with

[Styles p]

i cant help but laugh everytime he throws a punch. all these years of training and nobody taught him how to throw a punch.

btw: does anyone know if 4chan knows about charlie?

[Lamar Doom]

[QUOTE=Se

[-playmaker-]

so you are actually going to fight him?

wow...

now that it looks like Manny and Floyd won't happen this could be the biggest thing in boxing for me...:lol



and what thread are we using for this?

we need a mod to merge the two, this is confusing...

[-playmaker-]

yeah everyone move here:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=185287&page=8


that thread has the actual video in the OP

that way I don't miss stuff...lol

[CasterL]

when you rush him look out for thos 750's


i ****ing loled


eagerly anticipating a breakdown of events

if this fight goes ahead it will be stuff of pure legend

[Styles p]

srsly you have to fight him dude. you will be a internet legend.

[lilojmayo]

In boxing all it takes is one punch to connect. One of my friends boxes he is 5'3 and 120lbs. He got in a fight at this place ( fighting over a girl) and the other guy had to been 5'10 or so and my friend caught and almost put him to sleep.

Even though Lamar Doom has a size,strength advantage. Charlie Z actually boxes and a technique advantage. technique>strength. Unless Doom can get Z on the rope and lean on him, he can't use his weight advantage to the fullest.

Doom you have a strength advantage, so don't brawl with him and trade punches. Just lean on the ropes and cover yourself and take the onslaught of club shots just like Ali did in Zaire when he fought Foreman. Then when Z gets tired go on the offense and go for the kill.

[DC's Finest]

In boxing all it takes is one punch to connect. One of my friends boxes he is 5'3 and 120lbs. He got in a fight at this place ( fighting over a girl) and the other guy had to been 5'10 or so and my friend caught and almost put him to sleep.

Even though Lamar Doom has a size,strength advantage. Charlie Z actually boxes and a technique advantage. technique>strength. Unless Doom can get Z on the rope and lean on him, he can't use his weight advantage to the fullest.

Doom you have a strength advantage, so don't brawl with him and trade punches. Just lean on the ropes and cover yourself and take the onslaught of club shots just like Ali did in Zaire when he fought Foreman. Then when Z gets tired go on the offense and go for the kill.
:wtf: Charlies technique is horrible. He knows nothing about how to box

[CasterL]

someone needs to alert charlie that his name is being besmerched on ish, and that he needs to come back and make a stand . it would add to the epicness and drama

[Jackass18]

He'd get himself banned within 15 minutes.

[Styles p]

someone needs to alert charlie that his name is being besmerched on ish, and that he needs to come back and make a stand . it would add to the epicness and drama
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/veltape/Picture5.png

[IcanzIIravor]

I love it when a Charlie Z thread pops up, you come lurkin!!! Awesome stuff dude.:lol

That avatar is beyond greatness. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[rezznor]

In boxing all it takes is one punch to connect. One of my friends boxes he is 5'3 and 120lbs. He got in a fight at this place ( fighting over a girl) and the other guy had to been 5'10 or so and my friend caught and almost put him to sleep.

Even though Lamar Doom has a size,strength advantage. Charlie Z actually boxes and a technique advantage. technique>strength. Unless Doom can get Z on the rope and lean on him, he can't use his weight advantage to the fullest.

Doom you have a strength advantage, so don't brawl with him and trade punches. Just lean on the ropes and cover yourself and take the onslaught of club shots just like Ali did in Zaire when he fought Foreman. Then when Z gets tired go on the offense and go for the kill.
have you ever seen charlie's "technique"?

[IcanzIIravor]

have you ever seen charlie's "technique"?

Even if he had technique as well he is too emotional. Would be easy to get him worked up and he'd just flail and get caught with something. Dude also can't take pain as evidence by his only attempt at actually boxing.

[Styles p]

just look out for the 750s he said they have crushing power.

[Jenna J]

I have no clue if Lamar can fight, but we all know the gutless wonder zelenoff can not...so in a fair fight it would be pretty interesting.....I hope z-homo mans up and takes a fair match and stops trying to say shit to make it not happen.

[-playmaker-]

wow a jenna j sighting...

that means shit just got real...:lol

[Jenna J]

wow a jenna j sighting...

that means shit just got real...:lol

it disgusts me how much of a p*ssy charlie is.....I mean he does this everytime....he could of fought Nino....p*ssied out and said "im a street fight dawg, boxing is for p*ssies" he did it with Oleg saying there would be a gym match and he pulled crap....and then with Lamar....who said he wanted a fair fight....and charlie of course threatens so he does not ever have to face someone that does not like him....its f*cking pathedic...just man up already!!!

[Doomsday Dallas]

wow a jenna j sighting...

that means shit just got real...:lol



This is my first sighting...

a female in the OTC?

[lilojmayo]

have you ever seen charlie's "technique"?


:wtf: Charlies technique is horrible. He knows nothing about how to box

I haven't seen a video of him actually boxing, but he says he has a trainer and takes/took lessons, so he has to have some technique and understanding of what to do, not just slug.

[Styles p]

I haven't seen a video of him actually boxing, but he says he has a trainer and takes/took lessons, so he has to have some technique and understanding of what to do, not just slug.
watch his documentary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC62H2opk3U

[Rizko]

I haven't seen a video of him actually boxing, but he says he has a trainer and takes/took lessons, so he has to have some technique and understanding of what to do, not just slug.
Just taking lessons doesn't mean you'll learn anything. Charlie is a cocky/arrogant person, he just assumes he knows it all, so he's not going to open himself up to learn anything for someone.

[-playmaker-]

This is my first sighting...

a female in the OTC?
she hosts a little radio show for boxing fans, she actually had Lamar Doom on the show as a guest on day, and it didn't let down....Lamar has personality

[-playmaker-]

it disgusts me how much of a p*ssy charlie is.....I mean he does this everytime....he could of fought Nino....p*ssied out and said "im a street fight dawg, boxing is for p*ssies" he did it with Oleg saying there would be a gym match and he pulled crap....and then with Lamar....who said he wanted a fair fight....and charlie of course threatens so he does not ever have to face someone that does not like him....its f*cking pathedic...just man up already!!!
IDK jenna, looked like he was ready for lamar to me...:lol

no, you are right, and I am betting Z will duck Lamar here too if Lamar gets serious about it and tries to set something up...

you should promote the fight jenna...

[lilojmayo]

This is my first sighting...

a female in the OTC?

Is she apart of Charlie's entourage?

[JimmyConway]

wassup jenna :pimp:

[Jenna J]

she hosts a little radio show for boxing fans, she actually had Lamar Doom on the show as a guest on day, and it didn't let down....Lamar has personality


:lol


not anymore.....things change :rockon:

http://www.ontheropesboxingradio.com/profiles.html

[Jackass18]

Is she apart of Charlie's entourage?

Like everyone else on the planet, she's apart of the anti-Charlie entourage.

[Jenna J]

IDK jenna, looked like he was ready for lamar to me...:lol

no, you are right, and I am betting Z will duck Lamar here too if Lamar gets serious about it and tries to set something up...

you should promote the fight jenna...

lol, no I longer cover zelenoff fights


http://berenice.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=4821092

[lilojmayo]

Just taking lessons doesn't mean you'll learn anything. Charlie is a cocky/arrogant person, he just assumes he knows it all, so he's not going to open himself up to learn anything for someone.

true. You won't learn anything no matter what your doing if you close your mind.

[-playmaker-]

:lol


not anymore.....things change :rockon:

http://www.ontheropesboxingradio.com/profiles.html
holy shit jenna....those are some serious names there...

the last time I think the biggest name I remember was peter mcneeley...lol


you are startin to get big time on us....congrats...:cheers:

[-playmaker-]

lol, no I longer cover zelenoff fights


http://berenice.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=4821092
you had Mayweather Sr. on your show?

:eek:


WOW...

I would think that is something that even ESPN would be trying to hunt down...

you really are getting big time...

god damn...

[lilojmayo]

watch his documentary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC62H2opk3U

:lol
why does charlie throw every punch on his punching bag like he is doing a kidney shot.

my favorite part was when charlie was like let me at him, then gets dropped and throws in the towel.

[-playmaker-]

"floyd, if you could speak to Paquio right now what would you say to him?"

"I'd tell him he's a f@ggot"....:oldlol:

what a trip that dude is...

[Jenna J]

holy shit jenna....those are some serious names there...

the last time I think the biggest name I remember was peter mcneeley...lol


you are startin to get big time on us....congrats...:cheers:

thanks, we have been moving on up, and when we had Floyd Sr. on last week it lite up all the boxing forums...

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sites/default/files/a_images/people/athletes/floyd-sr.jpg


and we even made Pacquiao smile.


(Manny Pacquiao amused over Floyd Mayweather Sr.'s remarks.)

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sites/default/files/a_images/people/athletes/pacman-amused.jpg

"Let's just laugh it off. He may not have been himself when he said that"

[Jenna J]

you had Mayweather Sr. on your show?

:eek:


WOW...

I would think that is something that even ESPN would be trying to hunt down...

you really are getting big time...

god damn...

5 times so far.....Floyd Sr. is my favorite to interview cause he always says something that makes you :roll:

[lilojmayo]

lol, no I longer cover zelenoff fights


http://berenice.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=4821092

http://www.ontheropesboxingradio.com/images/newideajennafinal.jpg

she aight.



Wait you said fights, how many official fights has charlie been in?

[-playmaker-]

Damn Jenna...that really is very very cool...

I bet you are loving it too...


have you thought about moving on to AM/FM ?

[Styles p]

:lol
why does charlie throw every punch on his punching bag like he is doing a kidney shot.

my favorite part was when charlie was like let me at him, then gets dropped and throws in the towel.
"yo he hit me in the face"
"im a body boxer dawg"

[-playmaker-]

5 times so far.....Floyd Sr. is my favorite to interview cause he always says something that makes you :roll:
yeah I am listening...that dude is a riot...

[Jenna J]

Damn Jenna...that really is very very cool...

I bet you are loving it too...


have you thought about moving on to AM/FM ?

I'm just waiting for legit offer.....but I'm 21 so I guess I can be a little patient.

[-playmaker-]

I'm just waiting for legit offer.....but I'm 21 so I guess I can be a little patient.
f*ck yeah...just keep making connections the way you are now...you'll be in great shape in a few years...

[heyhey]

wait so Charlie Z is a real fighter?


I thought this was just a persona or character he was doing as part of like a web tv series or something.

How does he sustain himself with no income and stff?

[lilojmayo]

wait so Charlie Z is a real fighter?


I thought this was just a persona or character he was doing as part of like a web tv series or something.

How does he sustain himself with no income and stff?
Charlie is only 22. He has been doing this for 2 years now,according to the youtube dates, so he started when he was 20.

He probably lives with his parents. He dad probably supports his amateur boxing career, he was with charlie when charlie was trying to fight Oleg outside the sparring ring. I think that was when Lamar Doom was the picture guy.

[DaniloGallinari]

Jenna J is a complete cutey. I'd eat her up, no pun intended. Too bad boxing blows nuts.

[oh the horror]

wait so Charlie Z is a real fighter?


I thought this was just a persona or character he was doing as part of like a web tv series or something.

How does he sustain himself with no income and stff?



He trains, but he isnt a "fighter"....im pretty sure, I could polish him off in the ring, with ZERO training. He tires quickly from what Ive seen, and literally cannot box to save his life....he telegraphs his punches before he throws them, so unless you're an idiot, you could easily dodge, and counter...he leaves himself open ALL the time in what ive seen of him in that one fight....dude just cant scrap.


I'd have street fights harder than him.

[oh the horror]

Wasnt Lamar supposed to inform us of what went down with the two of them?

[NuggetsFan]

http://www.justin.tv/heyohhithere#/w/282458208

We'd take em

[oh the horror]

And hold up a minute...Jenna is talking sh*t here, but didnt her and Charlie have a little internet "fling" for a hot second? :oldlol:

[Se]

Jenna J is a complete cutey. I'd eat her up, no pun intended. Too bad boxing blows nuts.

That's why women don't continue posting here. This is a basketball website, not a place to try pick up.

How would you feel if gay guys were hitting on you here?

[Doranku]

[QUOTE=Se

[rezznor]

Charlie is only 22. He has been doing this for 2 years now,according to the youtube dates, so he started when he was 20.

He probably lives with his parents. He dad probably supports his amateur boxing career, he was with charlie when charlie was trying to fight Oleg outside the sparring ring. I think that was when Lamar Doom was the picture guy.
he's been doing it longer then 2 years. he has switched up youtube accts a few times.

[DaniloGallinari]

[quote=Se

[boozehound]

In boxing all it takes is one punch to connect. One of my friends boxes he is 5'3 and 120lbs. He got in a fight at this place ( fighting over a girl) and the other guy had to been 5'10 or so and my friend caught and almost put him to sleep.

Even though Lamar Doom has a size,strength advantage. Charlie Z actually boxes and a technique advantage. technique>strength. Unless Doom can get Z on the rope and lean on him, he can't use his weight advantage to the fullest.

Doom you have a strength advantage, so don't brawl with him and trade punches. Just lean on the ropes and cover yourself and take the onslaught of club shots just like Ali did in Zaire when he fought Foreman. Then when Z gets tired go on the offense and go for the kill.
again, have you watched any footage of him fighting? he may have "trained", but hes clearly not trained.

[boozehound]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/veltape/Picture5.png
hilarious. Everyone supports me in my fantasy land.

[boozehound]

[QUOTE=Se

[boozehound]

I wouldn't care seeing as how it's online. You're making me out to be some creep though. I could care less if women posted here. It seems like you have had little female contact, so you want more female posters? :confusedshrug:

And apparently saying a girl is really cute or hot means you're trying to pick them up?! LOL She lives across the ****ing continent.
dude, you wanna catch for me?

[PowerGlove]

And hold up a minute...Jenna is talking sh*t here, but didnt her and Charlie have a little internet "fling" for a hot second? :oldlol:
Seriously, when he pulled out this big ass picture of her and set it on fire I knew something happened.:oldlol:

That was one funny ass moment.

[heyhey]

Seriously, when he pulled out this big ass picture of her and set it on fire I knew something happened.:oldlol:

That was one funny ass moment.


You got a video of that man? :roll: this charlie cat has me rolling. i really think he's just trolling people.

[PowerGlove]

I think he removed the vid.:(

[boozehound]

thats too bad. it was a funny one. There is another one where he calls some girls phone and gets her voicemail, then acts like that is proof he banged her.

[Styles p]

thats too bad. it was a funny one. There is another one where he calls some girls phone and gets her voicemail, then acts like that is proof he banged her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ErWQxKdNUY

[Jenna J]

Seriously, when he pulled out this big ass picture of her and set it on fire I knew something happened.:oldlol:

That was one funny ass moment.

:lol:

no, I just supported his boxing and tried like hell to get the p*ssy to step into the ring....and now matter what I said or how much reassurance I gave him.....he was just to f*cking gutless.....so I hated on him for months and months calling him a scared little boy and a closet homosexual that went queer after screwing his transexual ex girlfriend....then I when I heard he was talking shit in videos about me, even If I never watched them....I decided to test my photoshop skills on him and everyone stalked him with the pictures I made....I basically drove the coward off the deep end and all he could do was burn a pic LMFO.

some of out work.....

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt47/KTFO4EVER/russianbride3.jpg

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt47/KTFO4EVER/charlievsoleg003m.jpg?t=1267835435

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt47/KTFO4EVER/victorycelebration3.jpg

[PowerGlove]

damn jenna, that is cold.

[boozehound]

so, did he really date a tranny?

[J_Rock3ts]

Why would a short stocky guy have an advantage over a tall skinny guy?

Tall guy would have reach all day and could work on that all day if need be in the ring.

Haven't finished reading the thread, so my bad if someone already answered. For a shorter guy to get in the ring, he's gonna have to get inside. The closer you get to a taller fighter, the less "arm" he can use for punches. Whereas with your shorter reach, you can throw more powerful blows even with confined space.

This is why Tyson was so effective. He had unbelievable head movement, which he used to dodge blows and move right on top of his opponents...and we all know what happened next.

[lilbeastnani]

Charlie Z should just beef up and try out for the WWE, because he may be a shitty ass boxer but he sure is entertaining.

[B-Low]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ErWQxKdNUY
:roll:

I dont know what's worse...that he called the chick twice in 40 seconds, or that he thinks leaving a voicemail is proof that he's got game

[Jackass18]

again, have you watched any footage of him fighting? he may have "trained", but hes clearly not trained.

Yeah, just making someone flinch is a big deal for Charlie.

[Jackass18]

:roll:

I dont know what's worse...that he called the chick twice in 40 seconds, or that he thinks leaving a voicemail is proof that he's got game

I wouldn't be surprised if it was his cousin's number or something.

[DaniloGallinari]

dude, you wanna catch for me?

I would consider it, but we both know you're a married man with a reputation to uphold as a professor.

[oh the horror]

Again....Jenna is talking sh*t now, but I remember hearing that her and Charles there, had a little internet sweetness going on for a hot minute. Im JUST sayin. :oldlol:

[Lebron23]

Again....Jenna is talking sh*t now, but I remember hearing that her and Charles there, had a little internet sweetness going on for a hot minute. Im JUST sayin. :oldlol:

:lol :lol :lol

[Lamar Doom]

Again....Jenna is talking sh*t now, but I remember hearing that her and Charles there, had a little internet sweetness going on for a hot minute. Im JUST sayin. :oldlol:

say what you will about Jenna, there is simply no way she ever took Charlie seriously as a romantic possibility.

somebody was talking about this- charlie pulled it down I think but somebody saved it:
Charlie's video to Jenna after the Lakers beat her Celtics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz-PYPBsR6g) :cletus:

[Lebowsky]

say what you will about Jenna, there is simply no way she ever took Charlie seriously as a romantic possibility.

somebody was talking about this- charlie pulled it down I think but somebody saved it:
Charlie's video to Jenna after the Lakers beat her Celtics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz-PYPBsR6g) :cletus:

Oh dear lord, I just can't get enough of this stuff :roll: :roll: :roll:

[oh the horror]

say what you will about Jenna, there is simply no way she ever took Charlie seriously as a romantic possibility.

somebody was talking about this- charlie pulled it down I think but somebody saved it:
Charlie's video to Jenna after the Lakers beat her Celtics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz-PYPBsR6g) :cletus:



So this Charlie guy is literally THAT nutty? Its so hard for me to grasp, seeing as how Im a fairly logical, grounded guy....I mean we ALL have our little "quirks" and such, but seeing someone literally twisting around reality the way he does....just seems SO far fetched to me....I have a hard time swallowing it.


I mean even in the interview with that Jason dude, you can clearly hear him calling Charlie "insane" and yada yada...and how he was telling his mother that her son needs help, and anger managment, etc....



Its a trip really.

[Lamar Doom]

:roll:

I dont know what's worse...that he called the chick twice in 40 seconds, or that he thinks leaving a voicemail is proof that he's got game

he would call a girl, god knows who, she'd answer, clearly be put out that he'd called her, and he'd say it was "PROOF" they were together.

girl- hello?

charlie- sup?

girl- <pause> hey

charlie- so you goin to that club tonight?

girl- no, i'm goin somewhere else

charlie- i heard of that club on sunset, I think i'm goin

girl- okay

charlie- alright well call me up if you're goin there

girl- okay

click.

charlie - <to camera> TOLD YOU MOTHER F*CKERS



charlie screen shotted an instant message he had with Jenna from 6 months ago, her message was something along the lines of "Okay fine (she'd clearly been prodded repeatedly), if you train hard and beat hartley like you should we can hang out after your fight, but it won't be romantic or sexual, we're just gonna have a drink and talk about how much the lakers suck" and Charlie presented it as "PROOF Jenna J wanted to date me"

the guy made a thread on his website "I'm goin to the strip club, have a good night". I read these posts at 2 AM saying "i met this stripper named rebecca, she let me finger her, we're goin to the movies thursday". I didn't respond. At 4 AM he deleted his posts and wrote "I just got home, it's 4AM!! what a wild night, I met this stripper named Rebecca we danced all night, she kissed me like 7 times". I asked him why he deleted the posts he made at 2 AM and why his story changed, he freaked out and told me i was being too critical.

he sneaks videos on his camera while he's in strip clubs, says the girl dancing on his blurry ass cell video is his girlfriend.

he wrote this story about going to the sushi bar and this blonde girl was with some older guy and when the older guy went to the bathroom they got to chatting and exchanged numbers. a few days later he writes that he was swapping glances with "that same chic from the sushi bar" but in this story she's asian. I called him on it, he freaked out

The kid is a pathological liar, he's got junior high locker room mentality mixed in with the kid who brags about his first kiss at summer camp, and the saddest part is none of it is true.


So this Charlie guy is literally THAT nutty?

and then some. you think it must be a joke or it must be exaggerated or something but it's not. it's actually sort of fascinating, he should be locked up and studied

[oh the horror]

and then some. you think it must be a joke or it must be exaggerated or something but it's not. it's actually sort of fascinating, he should be locked up and studied



Its actually VERY fascinating! When you mentioned him being a pathalogical liar, It clicked for me. Ive met A LOT of people like that along the years, but Ive never met one on the level of Charlie...I mean we knew kids back east that would make up stories, but Charlie treads in dangerous places, because HE involves actual people, and twists up actual events, involving OTHER PEOPLE in his lies....so when THAT occurs, one has to wonder how long he can keep it up before someone actually DOES hurt him.

Generally the pathalogical liars ive met before, just mention stories, in which you yourself cannot verify as a lie or not, because YOU werent there to witness it....but knowing THEM, you just KNOW their stories are too fantastical to be real....Know what I mean?



Charlie is an interesting kid.....hanging around him would make me uncomfortable though....people that lie that much tend to creep me out.


How the hell did you manage to put on a happy face when you met him face to face Lamar? THAT must have been one hell of an experience.

[ShaqAttack3234]

:lol:

no, I just supported his boxing and tried like hell to get the p*ssy to step into the ring....and now matter what I said or how much reassurance I gave him.....he was just to f*cking gutless.....so I hated on him for months and months calling him a scared little boy and a closet homosexual that went queer after screwing his transexual ex girlfriend....then I when I heard he was talking shit in videos about me, even If I never watched them....I decided to test my photoshop skills on him and everyone stalked him with the pictures I made....I basically drove the coward off the deep end and all he could do was burn a pic LMFO.

some of out work.....

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt47/KTFO4EVER/russianbride3.jpg

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt47/KTFO4EVER/charlievsoleg003m.jpg?t=1267835435

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt47/KTFO4EVER/victorycelebration3.jpg

:roll: Great work, can you photoshop his face on Richard Simmons?

[Lebron23]

:roll: Great work, can you photoshop his face on Richard Simmons?

Nice Photoshop. Charlie Z is a ******.

[oh the horror]

he would call a girl, god knows who, she'd answer, clearly be put out that he'd called her, and he'd say it was "PROOF" they were together.

girl- hello?

charlie- sup?

girl- <pause> hey

charlie- so you goin to that club tonight?

girl- no, i'm goin somewhere else

charlie- i heard of that club on sunset, I think i'm goin

girl- okay

charlie- alright well call me up if you're goin there

girl- okay

click.

charlie - <to camera> TOLD YOU MOTHER F*CKERS






This just had me cracking up.

[devin112]

maybe doom and z can play hoops - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evdlmkQPjYA&feature=related

he just posted some hoop vids

[heyhey]

maybe doom and z can play hoops - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evdlmkQPjYA&feature=related

he just posted some hoop vids

he's actually a decent set shooter. Don't know why the other guy refused to play defense on his shots tho.

[Styles p]

dayum he beat the breaks off this punching bag.
http://www.youtube.com/user/ZDaddyy#p/u/2/IpBRxByjKmk

[boozehound]

maybe doom and z can play hoops - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evdlmkQPjYA&feature=related

he just posted some hoop vids
pretty sure he must be reposting this, since Ive seen it (or a very similar vid in the same gym with the same opponent).


First, why is he taping this? Is he that self-centered and ridiculous?
second, wow, you won a pickup game against a terrible player
third, your shot is atrocious. You would suck against any one with any D
fourth, the first comment is hilarious. His natural athleticism? hahaha. my 31 yr old fat ass would school him.

[boozehound]

also, dude is destroying him in the post. If he didnt take any outside shots with his shotput form, the other guy wouldve won, no doubt. Charlie should be in the nba. do the lakers have a 15th spot open?

[B-Low]

woww I didn't realize the game had started til Charlie missed a shot and the other guy started playing. How bout braggin when you actually beat someone that guards you :oldlol:

Dude gave him a good 5-10 feet on every shot!

[DaniloGallinari]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evdlmkQPjYA&feature=related



@IsaahBoxer i know. that last shot i made was Ballistic...... he Jumped On me literally and I still made it. Im clutch .... Yea dude and the crazy thing is I can fight just as good as I play basketball

Ok. So now we know that he's putting on an act. I don't see any other way.

[Jasi]

:roll:
the way he walks towards the camera after making the last shot
:oldlol: :roll:
:roll: :oldlol:

[Styles p]

charlie should just quit life.

[deion2123]

zelenoff > sasha cohen ....IMO

[Styles p]

BRAKING NEWS!!!! CHARLIE Z IS GETTING A VIDEO GAME.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCslOUmX0WM

[deion2123]

BRAKING NEWS!!!! CHARLIE Z IS GETTING A VIDEO GAME.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCslOUmX0WM
:lol

[B-Low]

BRAKING NEWS!!!! CHARLIE Z IS GETTING A VIDEO GAME.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCslOUmX0WM

WHY the f*ck would a game about a boxer be more like GTA and not have any in-ring action?











Oh wait, because it's based on a boxer that sees no in-ring action

[vapid]

Who is this camera man that follows him around and has all this time to tape him as well as subscribe to his deluded dream world?

[Jackass18]

Somebody please tell me it's an act, though it would still be crazy if it were an act since he's been doing it for years.

[King Kong]

:roll:
the way he walks towards the camera after making the last shot
:oldlol: :roll:
:roll: :oldlol:

+1

[El Kabong]

Is he still boxing? I thought he was going to be a MMA fighter? Charlie would be the greatest thing ever if I thought it was just a character he was playing, but he seems to truly believe the things he says which just makes it kinda sad.

[deion2123]

this is one of the funnier zelenoff videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyKSZ6P4hZU
:lol at his ****** ass sporting lakers gear

[Jenna J]

he would call a girl, god knows who, she'd answer, clearly be put out that he'd called her, and he'd say it was "PROOF" they were together.

girl- hello?

charlie- sup?

girl- <pause> hey

charlie- so you goin to that club tonight?

girl- no, i'm goin somewhere else

charlie- i heard of that club on sunset, I think i'm goin

girl- okay

charlie- alright well call me up if you're goin there

girl- okay

click.

charlie - <to camera> TOLD YOU MOTHER F*CKERS



charlie screen shotted an instant message he had with Jenna from 6 months ago, her message was something along the lines of "Okay fine (she'd clearly been prodded repeatedly), if you train hard and beat hartley like you should we can hang out after your fight, but it won't be romantic or sexual, we're just gonna have a drink and talk about how much the lakers suck" and Charlie presented it as "PROOF Jenna J wanted to date me"

the guy made a thread on his website "I'm goin to the strip club, have a good night". I read these posts at 2 AM saying "i met this stripper named rebecca, she let me finger her, we're goin to the movies thursday". I didn't respond. At 4 AM he deleted his posts and wrote "I just got home, it's 4AM!! what a wild night, I met this stripper named Rebecca we danced all night, she kissed me like 7 times". I asked him why he deleted the posts he made at 2 AM and why his story changed, he freaked out and told me i was being too critical.

he sneaks videos on his camera while he's in strip clubs, says the girl dancing on his blurry ass cell video is his girlfriend.

he wrote this story about going to the sushi bar and this blonde girl was with some older guy and when the older guy went to the bathroom they got to chatting and exchanged numbers. a few days later he writes that he was swapping glances with "that same chic from the sushi bar" but in this story she's asian. I called him on it, he freaked out

The kid is a pathological liar, he's got junior high locker room mentality mixed in with the kid who brags about his first kiss at summer camp, and the saddest part is none of it is true.



and then some. you think it must be a joke or it must be exaggerated or something but it's not. it's actually sort of fascinating, he should be locked up and studied


Ya, charlie is pretty sad and no matter what I said I could not get him in the ring. The worst thing when I was a member of the z-train was dealing with his pathedic advances trying to ask me out on a date.....the kid is in LA...and all I do is say that he has skills and he's going to win and he gets a weird infatuation with you.....but you are right about being bothered by z.....I told him he was not my type is the nicest way possible by saying I was into the Klitschko type guys....but still he would send me ****ing sad love notes that I would ignore and then bother me in he chat asking if we can hang out on his basketball tour :lol But I did tell him something like that....differently worded ...I said if he trained hard and won like he should against hartley (something I really did not believe he could do) that if he is in the area we can hang out at a bar and get a couple of drinks.....just as friends though (not quite the way u worded it :roll: ) and I do think I said something about the lakers......but he's not as stupid as you would think.....cause he figured (2 weeks later) that if I would never give him my number, that I would not meet up with him.....so after some fool told him to take a shot with me and he asked straight up "do you even like me at all" I had shoot him down again......I actually posted put down chat, and his weird love note.....something I think Lamar gave me shit for saying it was real low......but you would figure zelenoff would go away after all that, and all the shit I post and photoshops I did....he comes back out of the blue to my forum with accounts like "jennafutureboyfriend" and "jennasman" and Im like what the **** :facepalm he's just sad and lonely......as for the Claudia thing....a real life transexual said his ex had all the markers for a male to female transexual....some asked in here....but he will never get a life and it quite sad.

[DaniloGallinari]

This thread is still going on? The only reason Charlie is still significant in some way on this forum and other places, is because of the idiots that keep paying him attention. The people that love confrontation. The immature people that cannot just lay down and say "**** it". Just forget him. It's easy. I know it might be too hard for some kids, but I expected more from older people.

Even the MMA trainer. He could probably kick my ass, but he's too immature himself. You could tell that he loved the confrontation with CZ and wanted more. What a loser. Does not deserve to teach in the name of MMA.

I suggest for all people that are in some way tied with CZ in real life, to just stop. Just ignore him, and he'll go away. He's nothing.

[B-Low]

This thread is still going on? The only reason Charlie is still significant in some way on this forum and other places, is because of the idiots that keep paying him attention. The people that love confrontation. The immature people that cannot just lay down and say "**** it". Just forget him. It's easy. I know it might be too hard for some kids, but I expected more from older people.

Even the MMA trainer. He could probably kick my ass, but he's too immature himself. You could tell that he loved the confrontation with CZ and wanted more. What a loser. Does not deserve to teach in the name of MMA.

I suggest for all people that are in some way tied with CZ in real life, to just stop. Just ignore him, and he'll go away. He's nothing.

Keeping up with Charlie is like watching the movie Titanic. You knew the ship was gonna crash hard, and you weren't gonna stop watching until it did.

Right now i think most people are just waiting for Charlie to get his ass whooped again and they'll do anything they can to get him in the ring so we can all see it happen.

[Styles p]

i found charlie z's new youtube page. http://www.youtube.com/user/charliezelenoff1#p/u/2/_9Jz0V9Rep4

well his fight with akeem got canceled, the he was gonna fight some guy named lucillo reyes. suprise! that fight also got canceled... now hes going back to mma.

[EarlTheGoat]

i found charlie z's new youtube page. http://www.youtube.com/user/charliezelenoff1#p/u/2/_9Jz0V9Rep4

well his fight with akeem got canceled, the he was gonna fight some guy named lucillo reyes. suprise! that fight also got canceled... now hes going back to mma.

Has he ever fought once?

[Styles p]

Has he ever fought once?

yeah and he got knocked out into the ropes. its on youtube just search for charlie z vs andrew hartley.