Prime Allen Iverson vs Prime Vince Carter

[Th3ShowMVP]

Who's better?

[The_Yearning]

Equal...VC was one shot away from eliminating The Answer.

[PowerGlove]

I see what you did there....

[Th3ShowMVP]

I see what you did there....
Doubt it.

[FCN]

AI was better really

Imagine if AI was 6'6

[Gabuyaux]

The Answer

[Disaprine]

AI

[Pearleojam]

AI

[tpols]

AI

[darius15]

Iverson.

Man, I remember that playoff series like it was last week. The one where where AI and Vince were taking turns putting on ridiculous performances. AI has 2 50 point games in the series and Vince had one as well.

[markymark]

Iverson.

Man, I remember that playoff series like it was last week. The one where where AI and Vince were taking turns putting on ridiculous performances. AI has 2 50 point games in the series and Vince had one as well.

Yup, one of the rare times when both superstars from opposing teams put up epic numbers.

[nbacardDOTnet]

no doubt. The Answer.

Is there anyone remember this ? =)

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/0%20Players/Vince%20Carter/brandanhaywoodandvincecarter.jpg

[Foster5k]

That dude with the braids.

[game3524]

Iverson.

[Foster5k]

Carter is the lion with no courage. Crazy athletic ability, but he has the heart of a sloth.

[Rasheed1]

no doubt. The Answer.

Is there anyone remember this ? =)

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/0%20Players/Vince%20Carter/brandanhaywoodandvincecarter.jpg


*raises hand*

That was the graduation ceremony that started all the "vince is soft" talk...

he had a elimination game against the 76ers that day and he caught heat for leaving Philly to go the Ceremony... he made back in time for the game but the Raptors lost that game and Vince got alot of blame even though the game was a thriller

[Lebron23]

Iverson

[Bigsmoke]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/2%20Award%20Winner/3%20Season%20MVP/z2-1.jpg

[nbacardDOTnet]

*raises hand*

That was the graduation ceremony that started all the "vince is soft" talk...

he had a elimination game against the 76ers that day and he caught heat for leaving Philly to go the Ceremony... he made back in time for the game but the Raptors lost that game and Vince got alot of blame even though the game was a thriller

:applause: :applause: :applause:

BTW, I like Sheed. =)

[necya]

Yup, one of the rare times when both superstars from opposing teams put up epic numbers.

yeah that was epic to see someone struggled like that :
11/34
21/39
7/22
10/30
21/32
6/24
8/27

when nba sucks at his best
with 30 shots a game, the less he could do was to put "numbers", but good basketball it's another thing.

[Mr Clutch Melo]

Imagine if Vince had Iversons heart:bowdown:

GOAT-caliber

[Done_And_Done]

no doubt. The Answer.

Is there anyone remember this ? =)

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/0%20Players/Vince%20Carter/brandanhaywoodandvincecarter.jpg


As a Raptors fan I know that visual all to well but that pic is more of an indication of Vince's bad judgment opposed to anything else really...
I think a common perception regarding Carter is that from a talent spectrum he possessed all the natural God given tools to landscape a special career in the NBA but his interior make-up prevented him from fully living up to his ultimate potential. He always seemed to lack that "cut-throat all or nothing" passionate mentality that many of the greats of our past had flowing through their veins.

With that said give me AI...

[ppierce34]

yeah that was epic to see someone struggled like that :
11/34
21/39
7/22
10/30
21/32
6/24
8/27

when nba sucks at his best
with 30 shots a game, the less he could do was to put "numbers", but good basketball it's another thing.

A lot of players score 50+ points without taking 30 shots?

[fazzazz1k]

AI

[Rasheed1]

A lot of players score 50+ points without taking 30 shots?

+1

[team_diva]

Prime King James is better.

[mattevans11]

I would take Vince. AI was good but hogged the ball too much.

[BallsOut]

Combine Vince's athletic ability and desire to practice and AI's driving ability and you have Lebron James :lol

[Big R]

allen iverson is the greatest player of all time and the only thing vince carter has ever accomplished in his career is winning a dunk contest

[laker24]

Artificial Intelligence

[HylianNightmare]

how
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zvhq9trr4gI/STDdjyVa5MI/AAAAAAAAArU/PJze4P7GX7M/s400/AI_FInals.jpg

soon

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/iverson-kobe-finals.jpg

we forget

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kyokqaGXzY1qadon4o1_400.jpg

[IInvented]

Iverson easily but right now Iverson kickin on his couch while Carter ballin in Orlando

[Rendezvous32]

Carter ballin in Orlando
What? :confusedshrug: By "ballin", do you mean choking horribly in the playoffs?

[GiveItToBurrito]

Equal...VC was one shot away from eliminating The Answer.

Yep yep. That was a great series, I was so happy when someone posted links to all of the games about a year ago on here.

[GiveItToBurrito]

how
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zvhq9trr4gI/STDdjyVa5MI/AAAAAAAAArU/PJze4P7GX7M/s400/AI_FInals.jpg

soon

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/iverson-kobe-finals.jpg

we forget

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kyokqaGXzY1qadon4o1_400.jpg

:applause: :applause: :applause:

I think Vince the year he had like a 27 PER was his equal, but props for reminding us of that. AI's run in 2001 is seriously the most...heroic thing I've seen in sports, at least that I can think of off the top of my head.

[nbacardDOTnet]

how
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zvhq9trr4gI/STDdjyVa5MI/AAAAAAAAArU/PJze4P7GX7M/s400/AI_FInals.jpg

soon

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/iverson-kobe-finals.jpg

we forget

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kyokqaGXzY1qadon4o1_400.jpg

vs Lue
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/Allen%20Iverson/VS/Tyrone%20Lue/eea211ad.gif

vs Fisher + KB
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/Allen%20Iverson/VS/Kobe%20Bryant/vs2.gif


vs Lakers
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/Allen%20Iverson/VS/Whole%20Team/5c6bfc55.gif

[BALLin01]

how
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zvhq9trr4gI/STDdjyVa5MI/AAAAAAAAArU/PJze4P7GX7M/s400/AI_FInals.jpg

soon

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/iverson-kobe-finals.jpg

we forget

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kyokqaGXzY1qadon4o1_400.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79WSHpMU894

[HylianNightmare]

glad to see a couple AI fans in here

[New York Knicks]

AI was better really

Imagine if AI was 6'6
LOL. Fantastic argument. While we're at it why don't we imagine if Nate Robinson was 7'1. GOAT right?

[sixerfan3511]

I'm pretty sure the 2001 NBA Playoffs decided this question by itself. 76ers vs Raptors East semi-finals.

[White Chocolate]

A prime Vince Carter actually cared and played good defense. Not to mention he was much more efficient and shot 40% from downtown. Iverson was the better scorer, but the man shot under 39% for the 2001 playoffs. Granted Vince's shooting percentages weren't fantastic, but he was still well over 40% and still shot over 40% from downtown.

[markymark]

A prime Vince Carter actually cared and played good defense. Not to mention he was much more efficient and shot 40% from downtown. Iverson was the better scorer, but the man shot under 39% for the 2001 playoffs. Granted Vince's shooting percentages weren't fantastic, but he was still well over 40% and still shot over 40% from downtown.

Screw percentages! F*ckin internet geeks who probably don't even ball...

AI played with MULTIPLE injuries during that playoff run, willing his offense-deprived team each and every night. In the Milwaukee series, he was elbowed by Ray Allen in the mouth, causing it to bleed. Know what he did? He spit the blood inside his jersey so the refs wouldn't take him out of the game. If that isn't heroic, I don't know what is.

[nbacardDOTnet]

Screw percentages! F*ckin internet geeks who probably don't even ball...

AI played with MULTIPLE injuries during that playoff run, willing his offense-deprived team each and every night. In the Milwaukee series, he was elbowed by Ray Allen in the mouth, causing it to bleed. Know what he did? He spit the blood inside his jersey so the refs wouldn't take him out of the game. If that isn't heroic, I don't know what is.


http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/Allen%20Iverson/NBAFinals20010606Sixers-LakersG1Xvi.jpg

[D-nugz]

Screw percentages! F*ckin internet geeks who probably don't even ball...

AI played with MULTIPLE injuries during that playoff run, willing his offense-deprived team each and every night. In the Milwaukee series, he was elbowed by Ray Allen in the mouth, causing it to bleed. Know what he did? He spit the blood inside his jersey so the refs wouldn't take him out of the game. If that isn't heroic, I don't know what is.


You said it perfectly.
:applause:

All heart.

[PHILA]

http://i37.tinypic.com/a4wq6r.jpg



http://i36.tinypic.com/30dgz7l.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/2lauhqt.jpg

[EarlTheGoat]

Even if Iverson`s MVP was overrated, prime AI is the better player, VC in his prime was special, but nothing "unique" when you compare it to other players in his same position all-time, or even this own decade.

[TryToBeUnbias]

The guy with sick shoe commercials :oldlol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11hhHr_JaZk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11hhHr_JaZk

[Lebron23]

Allen Iverson. He averaged 35 ppg in the 2001 NBA Finals.

[RazorBaLade]

AI by a million miles

Wish the guy had gone gracefully, would have probably been my 2nd fav player ever if he did

[RazorBaLade]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79WSHpMU894

at 6:09 how is that not a travel?

[Rasheed1]

Screw percentages! F*ckin internet geeks who probably don't even ball...

AI played with MULTIPLE injuries during that playoff run, willing his offense-deprived team each and every night. In the Milwaukee series, he was elbowed by Ray Allen in the mouth, causing it to bleed. Know what he did? He spit the blood inside his jersey so the refs wouldn't take him out of the game. If that isn't heroic, I don't know what is.


I remember that sh*t
:applause:

That whole season was just beautiful... the only thing that made it less than perfect was Shaq and the Lakers... Shaq was soo powerful at that time, there was simply no hope to defend him...

From the beginning of the season on till the end, Iverson was the hero and the rest of the team was just hard as nails on defense... We had no real offense other than Iverson, but they all played together and went on a great run...

[Horatio33]

Iverson. more heart, will. didn't sell out team mates. dragged a p!ss poor team to the finals. Carter was a poosy.

[White Chocolate]

Screw percentages! F*ckin internet geeks who probably don't even ball...

AI played with MULTIPLE injuries during that playoff run, willing his offense-deprived team each and every night. In the Milwaukee series, he was elbowed by Ray Allen in the mouth, causing it to bleed. Know what he did? He spit the blood inside his jersey so the refs wouldn't take him out of the game. If that isn't heroic, I don't know what is.


Maybe if you understood the game better, you wouldn't have to result to insults. This thread isn't about heart. It's about comparing primes.

[Soundwave]

Carter turned into a wuss, but those early years were something else.

People forget but he was also hitting a lot of game winners/clutch shots back in those days too.

If T-Mac had stayed, I think the Raptors would've trounced Iverson's 76ers every year. I would've taken Vince because I think he was easier to build around.

Iverson, quite frankly was a bit of a ball hog and it was hit and miss if he'd ever work out with a certain supporting cast.

[Rasheed1]

Maybe if you understood the game better, you wouldn't have to result to insults. This thread isn't about heart. It's about comparing primes.

just stop....

Iverson was waay better in his prime than Vince...

Vince had (and still has) much more potential.... but AI was better in reality

[Desperado]

willing his offense-deprived team

That team was 'offense-deprived' by design.

[Noob Saibot]

Even if Iverson`s MVP was overrated, prime AI is the better player, VC in his prime was special, but nothing "unique" when you compare it to other players in his same position all-time, or even this own decade.

^pretty much. and Allen Iverson made basketball a livelihood for him, while Vince Carter took basketball as a hobby and valued education more.

[GOBB]

The answer is AI.

I never saw anything wrong with Vince Carter attending his graduation. Thats a once in a lifetime thing. Dude worked hard to graduate college. He didnt want to regret missing that experience with friends celebrating his day. He made it to the game on time. Maybe its me because I cant find myself to knock Vince for what he did. Derek Fisher showed up to a playoff game (Game 2) in Utah in the 3rd quarter. :confusedshrug:

[White Chocolate]

The answer is AI.

I never saw anything wrong with Vince Carter attending his graduation. Thats a once in a lifetime thing. Dude worked hard to graduate college. He didnt want to regret missing that experience with friends celebrating his day. He made it to the game on time. Maybe its me because I cant find myself to knock Vince for what he did. Derek Fisher showed up to a playoff game (Game 2) in Utah in the 3rd quarter. :confusedshrug:


And it's not like Vince choked in game 7. Granted his shooting numbers weren't great, but he still put up 20/9/7/3/2. Had he hit the last shot, I'm sure no one would have complained about him attending his graduation.

[markymark]

Maybe if you understood the game better, you wouldn't have to result to insults. This thread isn't about heart. It's about comparing primes.

Understanding the game does not equate to throwing around overused stats. There's such a thing as intangibles.

[necya]

Allen Iverson. He averaged 35 ppg in the 2001 NBA Finals.

it's easy to score 35ppg with 32FGA pg

[White Chocolate]

Understanding the game does not equate to throwing around overused stats. There's such a thing as intangibles.


Carter provided quite a few of those in his prime as well.

[markymark]

Carter provided quite a few of those in his prime as well.

Yes he did. I even believe he's the GOAT dunker.

That said, prime AI >>> prime VC. Just ask anyone who watched bball in the early to mid 2000s.