Roger Huerta(UFC fighter) fcks some guy up on the street who suckerpunched a girl

[joyner82]

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=06122435-fea9-4358-91eb-330a87db4f24

He's probably going to get jail time for the curb stomp though

[iamgine]

Looks like Roger had some help.

Is the guy dead? That must've caused some massive bleeding in the brain.

[LongBeachLakers]

couldn't see shit

[GOBB]

I didnt see any help outside of the random attempt by a guy to swing on the black dude. He failed and Roger went ape shyts on dude. That has got to be a rude awakening to encounter a professional fighter like that. But black dude opened himself up for it hitting that female. I wonder what sparked him to do that? Given his size there really is no excuse. Guess dude was under the influence and saw Roger as some weakling about to get served only he got served. That stomp at the end was deadly. They lifted dude up and he went down again.

Roger friend saw it coming "Roger Roger no no!" :roll:

[BankShot]

I didnt see any help outside of the random attempt by a guy to swing on the black dude. He failed and Roger went ape shyts on dude. That has got to be a rude awakening to encounter a professional fighter like that. But black dude opened himself up for it hitting that female. I wonder what sparked him to do that? Given his size there really is no excuse. Guess dude was under the influence and saw Roger as some weakling about to get served only he got served. That stomp at the end was deadly. They lifted dude up and he went down again.

Roger friend saw it coming "Roger Roger no no!" :roll:

That was the best part of the whole clip... his buddy knowing exactly what would happen to the b*tch that punched her, and what would happen to Roger when he went ape on him.

[DonDadda59]

:applause:

Guy got exactly what he deserved. Bet he felt like tough shit slugging a girl literally half his size. Then he stepped to a real man and real fighter and got his oversized ass laid out.

That's karma and justice right there if I ever saw it.

[boozehound]

:applause:

Guy got exactly what he deserved. Bet he felt like tough shit slugging a girl literally half his size. Then he stepped to a real man and real fighter and got his oversized ass laid out.

That's karma and justice right there if I ever saw it.
from behind no less. wish we could have seen the beating

[Juges8932]

It sucks for Roger though. He is going to pay for that.

[PistonsFan#21]

couldn't see shit

This

I dont know where you guys see the headstomp or any of the action

[GOBB]

It sucks for Roger though. He is going to pay for that.

How so? The other dude was caught on tape sucker punching a girl from behind. Then engaging in a fight with Roger. He had his shirt off and all in a stance like [jim rome]Wanna go? Its go time![/jim rome].

So what is Roger paying for exactly?

[boozehound]

How so? The other dude was caught on tape sucker punching a girl from behind. Then engaging in a fight with Roger. He had his shirt off and all in a stance like [jim rome]Wanna go? Its go time![/jim rome].

So what is Roger paying for exactly?
battery?

[GOBB]

battery?

If dude does that doesnt he put himself at risk of being sued by the female he laid out on the street?

[PistonsFan#21]

How so? The other dude was caught on tape sucker punching a girl from behind. Then engaging in a fight with Roger. He had his shirt off and all in a stance like [jim rome]Wanna go? Its go time![/jim rome].

So what is Roger paying for exactly?

Actually Roger is the one that went after the black guy after he sucker punched the girl. I understand his point that he wanted to protect the victim but its not his responsability to do the security on the streets. Both of them will definately be charged with something

[PistolPete]

27-year-old Huerta -- who was once featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated -- was in front of a bar in Austin around 2 AM on Saturday morning ... when some other people began fighting. Roger was near the scuffle ... when he saw one of the men involved punch a female who was standing near the ruckus.

Once Huerta sees the woman collapse to the ground -- he instantly tries to confront the attacker saying, "You just punched a f**kin' girl."

Moments later, Huerta takes off his shirt ... slams his hat to the ground ... and rushes after the man.

Chaos ensues and people scramble after the fighters, blocking the camera -- but seconds later ... a shirtless Huerta can be seen finishing his attack on the other man ... who is sprawled out on the street.

People rush in to aid the bloody man on the ground -- who eventually gets off the pavement -- as Huerta walks away from the battle ground.

Austin PD tells TMZ that officers were called to the scene -- but so far, no arrests have been made.

Huerta's manager tells us, "I have not spoken to Roger yet about this incident, but I can say that it's in his nature to be very protective of women.

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[Dizzle-2k7]

damn this was on 6th st?? thats crazy.. usually cops are all over the place stopping anything before it happens...

wish i was still living in the atx i mighta seen this lol

[Juges8932]

How so? The other dude was caught on tape sucker punching a girl from behind. Then engaging in a fight with Roger. He had his shirt off and all in a stance like [jim rome]Wanna go? Its go time![/jim rome].

So what is Roger paying for exactly?

Roger went after the guy. His friend was saying, "Roger, Roger, no no." Clearly Roger had bad intentions and then, when the other guy was down, he stomped on his face.

I'm not saying Roger should be punished, because he was just doing what a lot of people would do after seeing that happen. I think it's giving our justice system a lot of unjustified credit if you think that Roger would not be punished for that.

Yeah, the other guy will be too, since he KO'd somebody from behind and it was caught on tape. Also, knowing the preferential treatment that women get in court, he will be ****ed. There is video evidence of the chick and guy, that is irrefutable- he sucker-punch KO'd her. Pretty obvious what happened between Roger and the other guy; too bad the camera man sucked for the most part lol. All we saw was Roger go after the guy, they square up, 10 seconds later we see Roger stomp on that dude's face who is out cold.

[BRabbiT]

http://i39.tinypic.com/351bx2r.jpg

[AznTacoLover]

Awh, The black dude got what he deserved for,Roger was doing a lot of what others would do. but we really couldn't see the beating meng..

[heyhey]

Dana White: "That dude deserved to ket KTFO"

[GOBB]

Actually Roger is the one that went after the black guy after he sucker punched the girl. I understand his point that he wanted to protect the victim but its not his responsability to do the security on the streets. Both of them will definately be charged with something

Thought you couldnt see the video?


Roger went after the guy. His friend was saying, "Roger, Roger, no no." Clearly Roger had bad intentions and then, when the other guy was down, he stomped on his face.

We dont know what was said between the two parties for us to assume Roger went after him. It appeared Roger was asking why he hit the girl. The responses, gestures, taunts, threats made from the black dude? Unknown. When Roger friend sees him he knows something is going to go down. Especially given the black dude took his shirt off and is in a stance.

I didnt see Roger violently going off verbally at dude and challenging him. Maybe he challenged him? We cant hear much of the audio besides the black dude friend saying chill out when Roger was confronting him about hitting a girl.

Hopefully no one gets charged and this is just another fight after a club that tends to happen every now and again. I can understand the thinking Roger would get in trouble given his status. But I dont see anything coming of it. Could be wrong. Hope not. Dude needed his ass handed to him. He seemed to have enjoyed that sucker punch as did his friend. Until he met...Roger Huerta! :roll:

[GOBB]

http://i39.tinypic.com/351bx2r.jpg

:roll: Thats Roger Huerta? Awww man. Black dude thought he had some small dude he was about to stretch out. And he gets this cat. Mofo doing front flips with someone on his back to turn around and put him in a move. What the hell!

[iamgine]

He'll get sued, and settle out of court for a fairly large amount of money. End of story.

[chungerball]

He'll get sued, and settle out of court for a fairly large amount of money. End of story.

Are you on crack?

[Gundress]

I don't think Black dude know who Roger Huerta is...:lol @him thinking he can beat a little white dude like that....he got what he deserved.

[GOBB]

I don't think Black dude know who Roger Huerta is...:lol @him thinking he can beat a little white dude like that....he got what he deserved.

I dont know who he is. He would have shocked me if I got into an altercation with him. I'd sue him for embarrassment and whatever facial features he disfugured in the process. Only dudes I'm familiar with who I'd know on site is Rampage Jackson, the white dude with the mohawk whose name skipped my head (he was real popular), Fedor. Cant think of anyone else. I heard of Anderson Silva but I cant put a face to the name. For some reason I keep thinking of a dude with a ponytail resembling Steven Segal.

[LongBeachLakers]

I don't think Black dude know who Roger Huerta is...:lol @him thinking he can beat a little white dude like that....he got what he deserved.
roger is mexicAn

[leopoldstotch]

seeing that it's 2 am, looks like they were coming out of one of the clubs somewhere between congress and trinity (judging by that construction crane). i was in downtown that night, but luckily i wasn't near that area. :lol

[PistonsFan#21]

Thought you couldnt see the video?


I couldnt see the beating but i could clearly see Huerta get up to the guy's face after he sucker punched the girl. And then you could also see Huerta running after the black guy once his friend tried to punch him. Thats the undeniable facts. What was said verbally doesnt allow you to run after someone and give him the beating of his life according to the law

[Gundress]

I dont know who he is. He would have shocked me if I got into an altercation with him. I'd sue him for embarrassment and whatever facial features he disfugured in the process. Only dudes I'm familiar with who I'd know on site is Rampage Jackson, the white dude with the mohawk whose name skipped my head (he was real popular), Fedor. Cant think of anyone else. I heard of Anderson Silva but I cant put a face to the name. For some reason I keep thinking of a dude with a ponytail resembling Steven Segal.


:lol

Yeah, I am not very familiar with the UFC fighters like that but only know the popular ones like Tito Ortiz, Chuck Liddell (Mohawk), Ken Shamrock, etc.

[Gundress]

roger is mexicAn


Oh my bad but I don't know him.

[chungerball]

:lol

Yeah, I am not very familiar with the UFC fighters like that but only know the popular ones like Tito Ortiz, Chuck Liddell (Mohawk), Ken Shamrock, etc.

Coherent sentences? I'm confused....

[Lamar Doom]

I dont know who he is. He would have shocked me if I got into an altercation with him. Only dudes I'm familiar with who I'd know on site is Rampage Jackson, the white dude with the mohawk whose name skipped my head (he was real popular), Fedor. Cant think of anyone else

http://img.youtube.com/vi/zX7u2ojC1xw/0.jpg

you sure about that? protect ya neck Gobb

[rawimpact]

Lamar get off his dick already bro... it seems like your whole life has revolved around this guy...

[Lamar Doom]

Lamar get off his dick already bro... it seems like your whole life has revolved around this guy...

rawimpact get off my dick already bro... seems like you're too worried about what I post about

[crosso√er]

If dude does that doesnt he put himself at risk of being sued by the female he laid out on the street?

If that guy is wealthier then Roger Huerta; then perhaps he could sustain a minor monetary loss. However, I seriously doubt he is wealthier then Huerta and as bad as it was for him to hit that lady; Huerta kicking the head of a person who's already knocked out is a lot more serious then sucker punching a woman. Perhaps not from a morality perspective.

[Gundress]

rawimpact get off my dick already bro... seems like you're too worried about what I post about



When will you fight this guy?

[mattevans11]

If that guy is wealthier then Roger Huerta; then perhaps he could sustain a minor monetary loss. However, I seriously doubt he is wealthier then Huerta and as bad as it was for him to hit that lady; Huerta kicking the head of a person who's already knocked out is a lot more serious then sucker punching a woman. Perhaps not from a morality perspective.


you assume that all UFC fighters are wealthy?

most of them need to have a "day job" to get by.

i think the biggest issue here is that he is trained to beat people up and this is what truly seperates the two guys (in the eyes of the law)

[zabuza666]

How so? The other dude was caught on tape sucker punching a girl from behind. Then engaging in a fight with Roger. He had his shirt off and all in a stance like [jim rome]Wanna go? Its go time![/jim rome].

So what is Roger paying for exactly?

He beat the shit out of someone then curbstomped them when they were lying on the ground.

Will probs get some jailtime i'd imagine

[Lamar Doom]

I don't know where the "curb stomped" keeps coming from. He stomped him, that's the only thing we saw for sure, a good kick to the head while he was down, curb stomping is something different.

[Da KO King]

At best Roger Huerta has to pay either the victim or the state a significant amount of money. At worst he gets hit with assault. The idea that Huerta won't get in trouble because the victim hit a girl is extremely naive.

[fatboy11]

He'll get sued, and settle out of court for a fairly large amount of money. End of story.And if that chick has any kind of gratitude, she'll turn around and sue the black dude for however much he gets from Roger and give it back to Roger.

I'm calling this a wash unless the state wants to prosecute Roger and the black guy themselves. But in most cases, it's up to the victim. I'm pretty sure it can be communicated that the girl won't press charges if the black guy doesn't. True justice was served.

This thing could get ugly, but it wouldn't be smart for the black guy to try to press this issue.

[fatboy11]

At best Roger Huerta has to pay either the victim or the state a significant amount of money. At worst he gets hit with assault. The idea that Huerta won't get in trouble because the victim hit a girl is extremely naive.Even if the cops talk to the girl and she says she doesn't want to press charges on the black guy if he doesn't press charges on Roger?

Or is it not up to those two individuals? Maybe that only applies to "he said/she said" type disputes where there is no evidence of who started the violence.

[PowerGlove]

Great, but he went too far at the end. He could have seriously hurt that dude.

[J_Rock3ts]

sucks huerta's gonna get punished for this, but good for him. maybe that scumbag'll think twice the next time he steps to a woman.

[OneMoreSucka]

Would have done the same thing.

[The Raven]

Interesting video. Obviously it is wrong to sucker punch a girl

[PejaNowitzki]

I still can't get over the dude who tries to run up and swing on the big black guy and completely and utterly fails.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Da KO King]

Even if the cops talk to the girl and she says she doesn't want to press charges on the black guy if he doesn't press charges on Roger?

Or is it not up to those two individuals? Maybe that only applies to "he said/she said" type disputes where there is no evidence of who started the violence.
Once the cops get called to the scene the ball is in their court. They can pursue it whether the parties involved want to drop or not. In a situation like this because there is video the chance of the cops dropping it is slim.

[Juges8932]

I don't think Black dude know who Roger Huerta is...:lol @him thinking he can beat a little white dude like that....he got what he deserved.

Roger Huerta is Mexican. What the **** about Huerta sounds white to you?

[B-Easy8]

Black guy got what he deserved, any sensible guy who could fight like that would have done the same thing.

[fatboy11]

Once the cops get called to the scene the ball is in their court. They can pursue it whether the parties involved want to drop or not. In a situation like this because there is video the chance of the cops dropping it is slim.
Well, yeah, both of those dudes are ****ed then. Doubt Roger has a record so probably a hefty fine and community service for him.

[ThaRegul8r]

sucks huerta's gonna get punished for this, but good for him. maybe that scumbag'll think twice the next time he steps to a woman.

The guy got what he deserved.

[Jackass18]

Thought you couldnt see the video?



We dont know what was said between the two parties for us to assume Roger went after him. It appeared Roger was asking why he hit the girl. The responses, gestures, taunts, threats made from the black dude? Unknown. When Roger friend sees him he knows something is going to go down. Especially given the black dude took his shirt off and is in a stance.

I didnt see Roger violently going off verbally at dude and challenging him. Maybe he challenged him? We cant hear much of the audio besides the black dude friend saying chill out when Roger was confronting him about hitting a girl.

Hopefully no one gets charged and this is just another fight after a club that tends to happen every now and again. I can understand the thinking Roger would get in trouble given his status. But I dont see anything coming of it. Could be wrong. Hope not. Dude needed his ass handed to him. He seemed to have enjoyed that sucker punch as did his friend. Until he met...Roger Huerta! :roll:

It sounds a bit like what happened to Mayhem Miller except the female he was with was only pushed, but anyway Mayhem KO'd him, and ended up doing a month in jail.

And, to nitpick, Huerta isn't a UFC fighter. He's with Bellator.

[Jackass18]

you assume that all UFC fighters are wealthy?

most of them need to have a "day job" to get by.

Huerta is also an actor/model.

[Beebo]

who the **** hits a girl like that? :facepalm

[GOBB]

Great, but he went too far at the end. He could have seriously hurt that dude.

Much like the dude who blindsided that female. Fair game in my book. Surprised that chick even got up. Dude had all his leverage into that blow.

[PowerGlove]

Much like the dude who blindsided that female. Fair game in my book. Surprised that chick even got up. Dude had all his leverage into that blow.
Two wrongs make a right?

I dont give a shit about the guy, but potentially killing/paralyzing him when the female is fine is not worth it.

[joyner82]

I think it's hilarious that black guy that had at least 50 lbs and 3 inches on Huerta got absolutely destroyed in about 5 seconds..just goes to show the difference between a normal person and a professional fighter. That guy must have been thinking this mother ****er has to be joking coming up at me like this...5 seconds later out cold.

[PistonsFan#21]

Would have tried to do the same thing.

fixed

[oh the horror]

Im not condoning the dude that knocked the sh*t outta that woman, but this Roger guy needs to learn to control himself. Dude is a trained fighter, and literally STOMPED on the guy's HEAD.



What would he have done, if that man died? After he knocked the dude out, he should have left it alone. A fu*king head stomping to someone completely out cold just seems like something a lunatic would do.

[plowking]

I think it's hilarious that black guy that had at least 50 lbs and 3 inches on Huerta got absolutely destroyed in about 5 seconds..just goes to show the difference between a normal person and a professional fighter. That guy must have been thinking this mother ****er has to be joking coming up at me like this...5 seconds later out cold.

He wasn't just attacked by Huerta.

A guy with 50lbs on a UFC fighter would have put up a decent fight one on one, maybe even won if he knew how to fight somewhat.

[Andrei89]

He wasn't just attacked by Huerta.

A guy with 50lbs on a UFC fighter would have put up a decent fight one on one, maybe even won if he knew how to fight somewhat.

i don't really know what the level of UFC is

but there is no way 2 guys with 50lbs over someone from K1 would stand a chance of 10 seconds.

Those guys punch so hard unless you avoid the punch you are done. You can't stop it with your hands because that punch will break your bones.

[blacknapalm]

do we know for sure he was attacked by other(s) than huerta? when the camera panned over, we only saw heurta stomping on him from a distance with a crowd around. that crowd could have easily just been spectators.

[plowking]

i don't really know what the level of UFC is

but there is no way 2 guys with 50lbs over someone from K1 would stand a chance of 10 seconds.

Those guys punch so hard unless you avoid the punch you are done. You can't stop it with your hands because that punch will break your bones.

So you're saying a 170lbs fighter would beat a regular 220lbs man in 10 seconds? That's just stupid...

[Andrei89]

So you're saying a 170lbs fighter would beat a regular 220lbs man in 10 seconds? That's just stupid...


this guy

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/428698/andy_souwer.jpg
would fk anybody who's not a fighter up..no matter what size

i am not even gonna argue that Remy bonyasky would destroy shaq( prime shaq) in 10 sec

http://en.susumug.com/k-1/061202/susumu04.jpg

[Joshumitsu]

So you're saying a 170lbs fighter would beat a regular 220lbs man in 10 seconds? That's just stupid...

The power generated from a pro fighter is phenomenal. Punches don't just generate from the arms and shoulders, the hips and even the legs are involved. When compared against average human beings, pro fighters, no matter the size, are that much more built in terms of sheer technique and power.

[blacknapalm]

The power generated from a pro fighter is phenomenal. Punches don't just generate from the arms and shoulders, the hips and even the legs are involved. When compared against average human beings, pro fighters, no matter the size, are that much more built in terms of sheer technique and power.

not only that, the vast majority know how to keep distance (for a larger fighter) or close the gap (the speedy/quicker ones). plus, they can take you to the ground. that doesn't mean they're invincible of course and street fights can be unpredictable...but 50 lbs or not, i'm usually gonna take the pro fighter.

[Joshumitsu]

So you're saying a 170lbs fighter would beat a regular 220lbs man in 10 seconds? That's just stupid...

Also buddy, did you not watch the video? Because that's just what happened.

Except Roger Huerta is listed as 155 lbs and that big guy looked more than 220 lbs.

[plowking]

Also buddy, did you not watch the video? Because that's just what happened.

Except Roger Huerta is listed as 155 lbs and that big guy looked more than 220 lbs.

I did. I saw another guy step in as well and blind side the black guy.

Huerta didn't so much as budge forward before the other guy stepping in. To think it would have been over in under 10 seconds 1 on 1 is retarded.

[the_chosen_1]

:lol
Shouldn't have hit a girl!!!

[Toizumi]

So you're saying a 170lbs fighter would beat a regular 220lbs man in 10 seconds? That's just stupid...

10 seconds might be overdoing it.. but still.

I might be wrong here plowking.. but I assume you've never trained any form of martial arts?

Trained (mma) fighters will always have an advantage because:
1. they punch and kick way harder (better technique) than untrained fighters..
2. they know how to defend themselves properly (timing)
3. in MMA you learn how to take down your opponent real quick.. most 'street fighters' don't expect it to happen and don't know how to react on a takedown.. MMA fighters learn how to fight on the ground (both wrestling and punchin).

[plowking]

10 seconds might be overdoing it.. but still.

I might be wrong here plowking.. but I assume you've never trained any form of martial arts?

Trained (mma) fighters will always have an advantage because:
1. they punch and kick way harder (better technique) than untrained fighters..
2. they know how to defend themselves properly (timing)
3. in MMA you learn how to take down your opponent real quick.. most 'street fighters' don't expect it to happen and don't know how to react on a takedown.. MMA fighters learn how to fight on the ground (both wrestling and punchin).

I agree, though like I said, it's not a 10 second thing with such a weight discrepancy. It's a 30 second to minute brawl.

[Lebron23]

If that guy is wealthier then Roger Huerta; then perhaps he could sustain a minor monetary loss. However, I seriously doubt he is wealthier then Huerta and as bad as it was for him to hit that lady; Huerta kicking the head of a person who's already knocked out is a lot more serious then sucker punching a woman. Perhaps not from a morality perspective.

This

[Jasi]

At 0:45 you can clearly see a skinny baldheaded white dude who makes Huerta "flinch".

[The_Night_Elf]

Also buddy, did you not watch the video? Because that's just what happened.

Except Roger Huerta is listed as 155 lbs and that big guy looked more than 220 lbs.

Not nitpicking your quote, Huerta fights at 155 but more likeley walks around at 175 lbs. Just want to make it clear to most people not familiar with fighting and weight cutting. Still black dude had a big weight advantage but got what he deserved.

[fatboy11]

The only thing Roger did, that I could see, that I feel was over the line was the face stomp. But, he's a fighter, blood is boiling, he's in the heat of the moment. Next to impossible to show restraint when you've reached that level. But that's probably why it isn't the best idea to embark on adventures such as these.

[HisJoeness]

Two wrongs make a right?

I dont give a shit about the guy, but potentially killing/paralyzing him when the female is fine is not worth it.

:lol C'mon son. . .really? Innocent woman gets blindsided and you're worried about damaged inflicted to the *** who started this mess?

[Jasi]

:lol C'mon son. . .really? Innocent woman gets blindsided and you're worried about damaged inflicted to the *** who started this mess?

Well, we have no idea what that woman had done.
As far as we know, she could have kicked the black guy's kid in the face.

(Not saying that that would justify punching a woman, but we just don't know what she did)

[Dasher]

:roll: @ these fake knights in shining armor who would not have intervened at all. Roger should have minded his own business, and deserves jail-time. What he did was complete overkill, and judges tend not to look favorably on professional fighters who fight civilians.

[joyner82]

I think people are massively underrating the power/ability of professional fighters. For instance if a prime George Foreman hit someone with a clean shot it could probably kill someone. He generates the same force as if someone hit you with a wooden mallet in the head swinging it as hard as they could.

1 clean punch would at a minimum land you in the hospital.

[Jasi]

I don't want to be misunderstood, I believe the guy completely deserved what Roger did.
I just said that we can't say for sure the woman was "innocent".
Now, no matter what she did, the guy shouldn't have touched her.

[B-Easy8]

Im 6'5 and im sure that that guy could knock me out in 10 seconds. The people who are saying that he had help are talking nonsense, that guy could have easily knocked him out in that time.

[Se]

Great, but he went too far at the end. He could have seriously hurt that dude.

I agree. Break the guy's arms, just don't go for head shots while a guy is down. So dangerous.

Great to see a big beast like that black guy get dropped by a lightweight. Haha

[PistonsFan#21]

I don't want to be misunderstood, I believe the guy completely deserved what Roger did.
I just said that we can't say for sure the woman was "innocent".
Now, no matter what she did, the guy shouldn't have touched her.

I disagree with the bold part. Just because you're a woman doesnt give you the right to do anything you want and not excpect to get hit

[Se]

I disagree with the bold part. Just because you're a woman doesnt give you the right to do anything you want and not excpect to get hit

Might as well lock you up now.

[PistonsFan#21]

[QUOTE=Se

[Rake2204]

It's too bad Huerta kicked this fellow in the face. It was a great opportunity for rogue justice (like those two guys that got beat up by the Reggie Bush jersey at the convenient store: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a-6RIxneVw) but the kick kind of ruined things.

[PowerGlove]

Im 6'5 and im sure that that guy could knock me out in 10 seconds. The people who are saying that he had help are talking nonsense, that guy could have easily knocked him out in that time.
:oldlol:

Okay.....how is that relevant? If he gets inside of your reach, what are YOU going to do? Love these tall guys that think that just because they are bigger, that must mean they are great fighters.


:lol C'mon son. . .really? Innocent woman gets blindsided and you're worried about damaged inflicted to the *** who started this mess?

Okay, if a guy hits a woman, he deserves a beat down. I'm just not going to do anything dumb that could send my ass to prison. It is not worth it. I don't care if he was or is a professional figher, that just makes it worse that he could stay composed doing something that was his job.

*hijacks thread*

anyways, I've been thinking of doing/learning/whatever Krav Maga. Does anyone here do it already?

[Se]

What if a woman came to your house and killed your wife and children before robbing the house to buy some drugs? Would you look at her without touching her?

Because that's what this thread is about? Nice one.

To answer your question, I'd ruin her through torture, then I'd become a Buddhist writing self help books from up on some mountain in the middle of Afghanistan. In the year 2035, I'd liberate the Afghan people from the rule of the Taliban and the Americans and conquer Russia.

Thanks for the interesting scenario, you're a hoot.

[PistonsFan#21]

[QUOTE=Se

[wang4three]

Well, not to sour the conversation, I don't think anyone, woman or not, is above getting hit if karma dictates it. I had a friend who married a girl who was violent and at worst sometimes picked up a knife to threaten his life. She would hit him constantly and with her ridiculous nails, end up leaving scars. Mainly because he would sometimes cut off her credit cards since she has wild spending habits, refused to get a job--things that he didn't know about prior the marriage (yes, we can call him an idiot for marrying her too early).

Yet, because he was a lawyer, he knew that even if he acted in self defense, it'd become a he-say v. she-say case that would result in him losing so he ended up taking the abuse. Eventually he got fed up and just called the police as she was attacking him and when they came, she tried to plea that she was defending herself and he was trying to rape her. The police found no scars or evidence that she was being attacked and so he was able to leverage that for a pretty compromising divorce.

Anyway--my point is, if at any point, my friend had decided to actually defend himself and lifted his hand at her, I'd say he was morally justified.

[fatboy11]

I was just reading some stuff on another forum and they had still shots up. There's been a big debate whether or not it was Roger that actually stomped on the guy while he was on the ground.

A lot of people think the guy that did the stomping had a shirt on, but you can't really tell. But, someone finally brought up the point that Roger was wearing white shoes and the guy that did the stomping definitely, for sure had dark shoes on. There was another guy out there without his shirt on that had a hair cut similar to Roger's, but it definitely was him. Looked kinda like Christian Bale.

So, I guess Roger might not get charged after all if it can be proven that he didn't do the stomping because that video doesn't show him do anything but square off and charge the guy.

[Se]

Are you fukcin dumb? didnt you see the bolded part? i wasnt talking about this video only. he said no matter what the woman does it doesnt warrant to hit her. But congrats for trying to be a smartass.

by the way you dont know what the woman in this vid has done.

So you're assuming she killed some guy's wife and kids? Fool.

[GOBB]

You only hit females if you fear for your safety, life. Also hitting can be argued because gut punching a female is ok but hitting her in the face/head isnt. And hitting her repeatedly isnt cool. Who knows what that female did in the video. But there is nothing you can argue that justifies her getting sucker punched from behind by some huge dude.

Also after lookin at the footage again that wasnt Roger who stomped dude head into the ground. That was someone else. Probably someone who either didnt like the fact dude cold clocked the female or he was a friend of the female who got floored. I doubt it was one of Roger's friends because you saw 1 trying to prevent Roger from fighting. Maybe the guy who stomped the black dude was the one who intially tried to sneak attack the black dude and missed?

Where was the black dudes friends at? Maybe they watch UFC. :oldlol:

[tpols]

You only hit females if you fear for your safety, life. Also hitting can be argued because gut punching a female is ok but hitting her in the face/head isnt. And hitting her repeatedly isnt cool. Who knows what that female did in the video. But there is nothing you can argue that justifies her getting sucker punched from behind by some huge dude.

Also after lookin at the footage again that wasnt Roger who stomped dude head into the ground. That was someone else. Probably someone who either didnt like the fact dude cold clocked the female or he was a friend of the female who got floored. I doubt it was one of Roger's friends because you saw 1 trying to prevent Roger from fighting. Maybe the guy who stomped the black dude was the one who intially tried to sneak attack the black dude and missed?

Where was the black dudes friends at? Maybe they watch UFC. :oldlol:
Hitting females is wrong but that doesn't justify an outside party whose unrelated to the woman to step in on the attacker if he already walked away from it and isn't hurting her anymore. What's this tough guy mentality where every guy feels he has to be superman and defend a woman he doesn't even know's attacker after the situation has already ended? The only reason I think hitting a woman is bad (aside from the general act of hitting itself) is because of the huge size disadvantage. It the same thing if a 300 pound guy beats down a 100 pound guy but nobody would step in for the 100 pound dude. This is the same prison mentality where inmates want to beat the shit out of rapists when they themselves are convicted murderers. Absolute hypocrisy at its finest.

Now if that Roger Huerta were her brother or something than its fully justified because then theres grounds for retaliation as the problem will directly affect him.

That ***** who cheap shot head stomped the attacker was a bigger p!ssy than the actual attacker and should get years in prison if any damage to the guy's head was done.

[GOBB]

Hitting females is wrong but that doesn't justify an outside party whose unrelated to the woman to step in on the attacker if he already walked away from it and isn't hurting her anymore.

Me personally I wouldnt have did what Roger Huerta did. And you may be right about it doesnt justify Roger confronting the attacker. But some guys take to heart men hitting women. So I can atleast understand why Roger felt the need to poke his chest out. Plus he is a professional fighter so i'm sure he is confident in his abilities to take on anyone whereas another male who would have wanted to jump in would think twice after he sized the black dude up.

But I've seen too many :facepalm outcomes at the guy playing Super hero meeting his krytonite.


The only reason I think hitting a woman is bad (aside from the general act of hitting itself) is because of the huge size disadvantage. It the same thing if a 300 pound guy beats down a 100 pound guy but nobody would step in for the 100 pound dude. This is the same prison mentality where inmates want to beat the shit out of rapists when they themselves are convicted murderers. Absolute hypocrisy at its finest.

Taking advantage of a women is just a no no in the Man Law handbook. :confusedshrug:

[tpols]

Me personally I wouldnt have did what Roger Huerta did. And you may be right about it doesnt justify Roger confronting the attacker. But some guys take to heart men hitting women. So I can atleast understand why Roger felt the need to poke his chest out. Plus he is a professional fighter so i'm sure he is confident in his abilities to take on anyone whereas another male who would have wanted to jump in would think twice after he sized the black dude up.

But I've seen too many :facepalm outcomes at the guy playing Super hero meeting his krytonite.



Taking advantage of a women is just a no no in the Man Law handbook. :confusedshrug:
Your just losing control of you emotions then. Hitting anyone is f!cked up and hitting a women is bad because they are unable to fight back. That sh!ts unfair but I really don't find it much different than a professional UFC fighter going after a regular dude. Both cases are extremely one sided and huerta is a p!ssy for picking on someone who didn't have a shot in hell against him and din't start anything or say anything to him.

[GOBB]

Your just losing control of you emotions then. Hitting anyone is f!cked up and hitting a women is bad because they are unable to fight back. That sh!ts unfair but I really don't find it much different than a professional UFC fighter going after a regular dude. Both cases are extremely one sided and huerta is a p!ssy for picking on someone who didn't have a shot in hell against him and din't start anything or say anything to him.

You're not gonna find many calling Roger a p*ssy for reacting the way he did. Not much sympathy for the black dude.

[tpols]

You're not gonna find many calling Roger a p*ssy for reacting the way he did. Not much sympathy for the black dude.
the black guy is a p!ssy and a dumbass and will end up in jail. So will Roger Huerta. They both lost control of their emotions and picked fights with people who in all reality couldn't fight back. They both deserve to be in jail cells and both will be.:confusedshrug:

[joyner82]

honestly outside of the curb stomp nothing huerta did was wrong. the guy blindsided a girl..i mean he deserved the asskicking he got. the kick was a bit much however.

he wanted to fight huerta so he got what he wanted. he squared up ready to throw...the girl was running and got laid out let's not even compare the 2. if the black guy was running and huerta chased him down it would be another story but even then he would deserve the shit kicked out of him

[East_Stone_Ya]

ya all need to get your eyes checked, Huerta was wearing white shoes, and the guy who stomps the black dude is wearing balck shoes and grey t-shirt..wtf seriously 5-6 pages of shit how Huerta did wrong stomping etc..

[PistonsFan#21]

[QUOTE=Se

[GOBB]

:facepalm Did i say that? Are you that stupid or are you just a troll? He said no matter what she does it doesnt warrant the black guy's reaction. So i gave him an example that proves that there is certain circumstances where hitting someone, even if its a lady, is comprehensible. Clear enough?

And like i said we dont know what she did. She could of called him n*gger or any other BS. im sure he didnt punched her for no reason

Whatever reason he punched her wasnt justified. The fact you needed an extreme example says enough. If she called him a big black n*gger, that doesnt give him the right to SUCKERPUNCH her. So nothing you're typing will make much sense.

[VishaltotheG]

I'll be honest. I would not have done shit if I were in Roger's position, and I'm a second degree black belt in TKD. But he just came in out of nowhere and started beating up on the black dude. It's none of his business, it's not like that girl was Roger's gf or anything. So I'd like to know why Roger had to be such a white knight about it and then destroying the guy's head when the girl is just fine.

[fatboy11]

Hitting females is wrong but that doesn't justify an outside party whose unrelated to the woman to step in on the attacker if he already walked away from it and isn't hurting her anymore. What's this tough guy mentality where every guy feels he has to be superman and defend a woman he doesn't even know's attacker after the situation has already ended? The only reason I think hitting a woman is bad (aside from the general act of hitting itself) is because of the huge size disadvantage. It the same thing if a 300 pound guy beats down a 100 pound guy but nobody would step in for the 100 pound dude. This is the same prison mentality where inmates want to beat the shit out of rapists when they themselves are convicted murderers. Absolute hypocrisy at its finest.

Now if that Roger Huerta were her brother or something than its fully justified because then theres grounds for retaliation as the problem will directly affect him.

That ***** who cheap shot head stomped the attacker was a bigger p!ssy than the actual attacker and should get years in prison if any damage to the guy's head was done.
I guarantee you'd feel much differently if your mom had a history of being beaten on. You don't know anything about Roger Huerta or what he's been through in his life. It's actually a pretty incredible story. I'm not sure if his mom was beat on or not, though. But my point still stands. Someone who watched their mom get beat up a lot growing up is probably going to react like that with someone hits a woman. Doesn't matter if they know them or not.

I mean, who are you to to say what's right and what's wrong here? Since the guy walked away, nothing should have been done? There were no cops there. He should just be allowed to get away? **** outta here. That piece of shit got what he deserved.

[fatboy11]

Your just losing control of you emotions then. Hitting anyone is f!cked up and hitting a women is bad because they are unable to fight back. That sh!ts unfair but I really don't find it much different than a professional UFC fighter going after a regular dude. Both cases are extremely one sided and huerta is a p!ssy for picking on someone who didn't have a shot in hell against him and din't start anything or say anything to him.You do realize that even a UFC fighter can lose a street fight. I mean, yeah, it is fighting, but street fighter is way different than MMA or boxing. Way different. There's no referee to look out for you safety and there's no rules. At all.

I can't believe you just called Roger Huerta a ***** for stepping a large black man who just knocked out a woman. What a punk ass thing to say.

[fatboy11]

ya all need to get your eyes checked, Huerta was wearing white shoes, and the guy who stomps the black dude is wearing balck shoes and grey t-shirt..wtf seriously 5-6 pages of shit how Huerta did wrong stomping etc..I already mentioned that in this thread.

[HisJoeness]

God forbid people help someone they don't know. The horror.

[fatboy11]

I'll be honest. I would not have done shit if I were in Roger's position, and I'm a second degree black belt in TKD. But he just came in out of nowhere and started beating up on the black dude. It's none of his business, it's not like that girl was Roger's gf or anything. So I'd like to know why Roger had to be such a white knight about it and then destroying the guy's head when the girl is just fine.
A. Roger didn't destroy the guy's head.
B. The girl was not just fine.
C. As a human being, it is all of our jobs to look out for one another. We just generally do a terrible job of it.
D. You don't know Roger Huerta's ****ed up background.

[fatboy11]

God forbid people help someone they don't know. The horror.I know. Just because must of us (myself included, I'll admit) are too ***** to do the right thing, that doesn't mean Roger was in the wrong.

Human beings, for the most part, are disgusting and incredibly selfish. That's why you see all these people saying Roger should have stayed out of it. Good for him. He's man enough to do the right thing. I'm man enough to admit that I would haven't, but not man enough or strong enough to do the right thing. Roger Huerta is a better person that most people that post here. He's a better person than most people I know.

[VishaltotheG]

God forbid people help someone they don't know. The horror.

How did he help her? The black dude was done beating up on her. Violence doesn't solve anything. She could have just filed suit against him and that would have been it.

[tpols]

I guarantee you'd feel much differently if your mom had a history of being beaten on. You don't know anything about Roger Huerta or what he's been through in his life. It's actually a pretty incredible story. I'm not sure if his mom was beat on or not, though. But my point still stands. Someone who watched their mom get beat up a lot growing up is probably going to react like that with someone hits a woman. Doesn't matter if they know them or not.

I mean, who are you to to say what's right and what's wrong here? Since the guy walked away, nothing should have been done? There were no cops there. He should just be allowed to get away? **** outta here. That piece of shit got what he deserved.
Dumbass mentality... you cant assume roger watched his mom get hit. Stop bullshitting excuses bro.

No cops? :roll: The sirens were blaring within a minute of the hit on the girl.:facepalm Dude was going to jail anyways no reason for an outside party to step in and play hero especially when hes a trained fighter (felony charges right there).

[tpols]

I know. Just because must of us (myself included, I'll admit) are too ***** to do the right thing, that doesn't mean Roger was in the wrong.

Human beings, for the most part, are disgusting and incredibly selfish. That's why you see all these people saying Roger should have stayed out of it. Good for him. He's man enough to do the right thing. I'm man enough to admit that I would haven't, but not man enough or strong enough to do the right thing. Roger Huerta is a better person that most people that post here. He's a better person than most people I know.
How is beating the shit out of someone when you are a trained fighter the right thing to do? If Roger had no training it would have been a more fair retaliation because it would have been a fair fight (although he shouldn't have stepped in any way-none of his business). Fighters have their hands registered. Its like me whipping a bat out on the black guy in that situation legally. Its incredibly selfish to try and act like a tough guy and put that black guy in his place. Thats what the cops are there for. Take that hero ego bullshit somewhere else. He had no part in that altercation and it was over when he approached the attacker. He escalated the situation and is now looking looking at felony charges along with the black guy. That makes them both dumbasses.

[fatboy11]

Dumbass mentality... you cant assume roger watched his mom get hit. Stop bullshitting excuses bro.I'm not assuming. I'm almost sure he did. Just not completely sure. I'll look into. Unlike you, I know quite a bit about Roger Huerta and his back story.

EDIT: I don't think his mother was beaten on. But she beat him, apparently.


No cops? :roll: The sirens were blaring within a minute of the hit on the girl.:facepalm Dude was going to jail anyways no reason for an outside party to step in and play hero especially when hes a trained fighter (felony charges right there).No one was arrested. Did you see any police? I sure didn't.

[tpols]

I'm not assuming. I'm almost sure he did. Just not completely sure. I'll look into. Unlike you, I know quite a bit about Roger Huerta and his back story.

EDIT: I don't think his mother was beaten on. But she beat him, apparently.

No one was arrested. Did you see any police? I sure didn't.
cuz they cut the tape short. Guarantee charges will be filed on the black guy and huerta and the p!ssy who stomped on the black guys head after huerta did the dirty work.

Him getting beat by his mother should increase his propensity to violence. Which is a bad trait to have man. (especially when your a trained fighter and use it on regular citizens). Don't know how it makes him sensitive to women getting hurt tho (his situation was the other way around according to you).

[fatboy11]

How is beating the shit out of someone when you are a trained fighter the right thing to do?Why does that even matter? This is real life we're talking about. So, because he's a trained fighter, he can't stick up for someone? This is the shit I'm talking about. Punk ass people like you have made this world so disgusting.


If Roger had no training it would have been a more fair retaliation because it would have been a fair fight (although he shouldn't have stepped in any way-none of his business). This dude. Talking about being fair after a 200+ pound man punched a woman in the back of the head.


Fighters have their hands registered.In some cases, but generally, no.


Its like me whipping a bat out on the black guy in that situation legally. No, it isn't. It's not the same thing at all.


Its incredibly selfish to try and act like a tough guy and put that black guy in his place.He wasn't trying to act tough. You're talking out of your ass.


Thats what the cops are there for.Who weren't there and couldn't even arrest anyone.


Take that hero ego bullshit somewhere else. He had no part in that altercation and it was over when he approached the attacker.He approached the guy seconds after he hit the girl. And he was just trying to talk to the guy. The other guy started swinging.


He escalated the situation and is now looking looking at felony charges along with the black guy. That makes them both dumbasses.The dumbass is you and people like you. People that think that we shouldn't help people out. The police aren't always around, man. People acted in her defense. That was the right thing to do.

[fatboy11]

How did he help her? The black dude was done beating up on her. Violence doesn't solve anything. She could have just filed suit against him and that would have been it.She could have filed suit against him? What? You think that would have produced anything? You think that guy has any money?

He was "done beating up on her" so just let him walk away. Just let him walk away and be a piece of shit who hits people from behind. **** that. I'm glad he was man enough to teach that dude a lesson.

And if you think violence doesn't solve anything, you're out of your mind.

[fatboy11]

cuz they cut the tape short. Guarantee charges will be filed on the black guy and huerta and the p!ssy who stomped on the black guys head after huerta did the dirty work.I'm sure charges will be filed now that this is shit is all over the internet. But why wasn't that black guy arrested on the spot? I'm sure there were dozens of people that would have gladly told the police that he hit the woman. Roger had already cut out so I'm not surprised he wasn't caught. But that black guy wasn't going anywhere.


Him getting beat by his mother should increase his propensity to violence. Which is a bad trait to have man. (especially when your a trained fighter and use it on regular citizens). Don't know how it makes him sensitive to women getting hurt tho (his situation was the other way around according to you).I don't know either, but his agent said he's very protective of women. Who knows?

[GOBB]

God forbid people help someone they don't know. The horror.

What happens of Roger Huerta isnt a professional fighter and he confronts the black guy. Then Roger Huerta gets blind sided by one of the black guys friends and we are now watching a video of someone getting pummelled? All because he confronted a dude who sucker punched a female and tried to help.

You have to be smart and mindful about jumping into a situation. You can help someone by calling the police and being a witness when cops arrive that the black dude hit the mess out of that female. As opposed to taking a chance on physically confronting the dude and not knowing if it will be a 1 on 1 or you will get jumped. And if its a 1 on 1 can you hold your own against dude who isnt small by any means. And yes that doesnt mean he couldnt get KO'd. But lets just be realistic into underestimating a person you dont know.

God forbid you end up physically injured because you decided to help a stranger out.

[bdreason]

:applause:


Love Huerta as a fighter. He did what everyone else there wanted to do, and gave that guy what he deserved.


I can tell you that, despite training in BJJ and MT for over 5 years, I don't pick fights with anyone around here. So many people train MMA around here it's ridiculous. I run into pro and amateur fighters on a daily basis (outside of the gym).

[bdreason]

anyways, I've been thinking of doing/learning/whatever Krav Maga. Does anyone here do it already?


I have a friend who teaches Krav Maga here in HB. Some of the self defense techniques are nice, but they also do a lot of weapons training and stuff like that which I don't find all that practical.

If you want to get into fighting I would recommend starting off with grappling, and getting into BJJ, Judo, Sambo, or Wrestling. If you're not a fan of grappling look for a Kickboxing/Muay Thai gym that offers full contact sparring.

[fatboy11]

What happens of Roger Huerta isnt a professional fighter and he confronts the black guy. Then Roger Huerta gets blind sided by one of the black guys friends and we are now watching a video of someone getting pummelled? All because he confronted a dude who sucker punched a female and tried to help.

You have to be smart and mindful about jumping into a situation. You can help someone by calling the police and being a witness when cops arrive that the black dude hit the mess out of that female. As opposed to taking a chance on physically confronting the dude and not knowing if it will be a 1 on 1 or you will get jumped. And if its a 1 on 1 can you hold your own against dude who isnt small by any means. And yes that doesnt mean he couldnt get KO'd. But lets just be realistic into underestimating a person you dont know.

God forbid you end up physically injured because you decided to help a stranger out.See, that's the thing, though. People like that are willing to take the risk of getting hurt to help someone out. That's an admirable thing to do. Just because most of don't have the stones to do, that doesn't make that person stupid. It makes them brave and compassionate for someone who just attacked. I agree that violence isn't the best way. However, sometimes it is the only way. And it can teach lessons.

It's not like Roger just jumped on the guy. He was just trying to talk to him at first and then the guy squared off. Oh well. It's not like Roger's running around saying "Do you know who I am?" and acting all bad. He was genuinely upset. We can sit around and call him stupid and say he shouldn't have done anything, but that's bullshit. We should all look in the mirror and be disappointment that we aren't brave or selfless enough to people someone out. You can hide behind "being smart" but that doesn't mean you aren't selfish. That's not the way God intended us to be (and I don't want to start a religious flame war). It's one of the things I hate most about myself. I don't do for others nearly enough because I'm selfish and scared. Not afraid to admit it.

[bdreason]

"We must all fear evil men. But there is a greater evil out there, one that we must fear most of all... and that is the indifference of GOOD men."

[fatboy11]

"We must all fear evil men. But there is a greater evil out there, one that we must fear most of all... and that is the indifference of GOOD men."Amen.

[oh the horror]

Frankly, I learned a long long time ago to mind my own business. Homegirl there shouldnt have been up in the middle of that mess. She got hit....and yeah, it wasnt "right"....but at the same time, I dont need to play white knight in shining armor for some broad I do not know. Thats just stupid on anyone's part.


Defend yourself, your family, and your friends. Dont be Superman to people you have no ties to. Those are the actions of an idiot to me.

[GOBB]

See, that's the thing, though. People like that are willing to take the risk of getting hurt to help someone out. That's an admirable thing to do. Just because most of don't have the stones to do, that doesn't make that person stupid. It makes them brave and compassionate for someone who just attacked. I agree that violence isn't the best way. However, sometimes it is the only way. And it can teach lessons.

It's not like Roger just jumped on the guy. He was just trying to talk to him at first and then the guy squared off. Oh well. It's not like Roger's running around saying "Do you know who I am?" and acting all bad. He was genuinely upset. We can sit around and call him stupid and say he shouldn't have done anything, but that's bullshit. We should all look in the mirror and be disappointment that we aren't brave or selfless enough to people someone out. You can hide behind "being smart" but that doesn't mean you aren't selfish. That's not the way God intended us to be (and I don't want to start a religious flame war). It's one of the things I hate most about myself. I don't do for others nearly enough because I'm selfish and scared. Not afraid to admit it.

I definately understand that argument. Just a risky move on Roger part that worked in his favor.

[fatboy11]

Frankly, I learned a long long time ago to mind my own business. Homegirl there shouldnt have been up in the middle of that mess. She got hit....and yeah, it wasnt "right"....but at the same time, I dont need to play white knight in shining armor for some broad I do not know. Thats just stupid on anyone's part.


Defend yourself, your family, and your friends. Dont be Superman to people you have no ties to. Those are the actions of an idiot to me.Everyone should be an idiot then.

[fatboy11]

I definately understand that argument. Just a risky move on Roger part that worked in his favor.Major risk. For sure.

Life is a risk, though. And we shouldn't be living for ourselves and what's right for us. We should live to do for others and make this world a better place. Not sit around and not do anything because it could bring harm back on us. That's how things continue to get worse. Because no one does anything.

I would honestly die happy if I got killed helping someone out. That's an honorable way to die. My biggest fear is that I'll die having contributed nothing to this world, having not made a positive impact on anyone, and having not learned to help people as much as I can.

[chazzy]

anyways, I've been thinking of doing/learning/whatever Krav Maga. Does anyone here do it already?

I remember seeing elementally_morale talk about it a lot last year, dunno where he's been. Got me interested in it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnZ0sfOiuIM

[tpols]

Why does that even matter? This is real life we're talking about. So, because he's a trained fighter, he can't stick up for someone? This is the shit I'm talking about. Punk ass people like you have made this world so disgusting.

This dude. Talking about being fair after a 200+ pound man punched a woman in the back of the head.

In some cases, but generally, no.

No, it isn't. It's not the same thing at all.

He wasn't trying to act tough. You're talking out of your ass.

Who weren't there and couldn't even arrest anyone.

He approached the guy seconds after he hit the girl. And he was just trying to talk to the guy. The other guy started swinging.

The dumbass is you and people like you. People that think that we shouldn't help people out. The police aren't always around, man. People acted in her defense. That was the right thing to do.
where do I begin man:facepalm

Punkass people like me who don't advocate unnecessary violence? The biggest problem in this world is people fighting and killing each other over stupid shit and I'm the dumbass who wants it to stop? Check your words bro.

stick up for who? that shit was over. He made it worse by bringing more violence into it. Dude got his head stomped because huerta attacked him. That damage is going to be a lot worse than what happened to the female. Oh but she was a girl so the emotional appeal overrides this.:facepalm

The black dude punching the girl was totally unfair and f!cked up. So an unfair act of violence should be punished by another unfair act of violence? Thats straight hypocrisy.

Police weren't around? DO YOU HAVE F!CKING EARS?! holy sh!t man. This will def be investigated and charges will be booked.

Help people out? THE SITUATION WAS OVER. THE BLACK MAN SWUNG AND WALKED AWAY. HES A P!SSY BUT IT WAS OVER. That wasn't defense dumbass it was retaliation. look up the difference.

Oh but youre right bro, "Man I would ve slugged that dude bro. would of laid him out. no one touches girls like that bro. I'd've totally raped him man":facepalm If he f!cks with you you can **** him up. If he touches your family you **** him up. If you can stop the violence for a stranger you stop it (even with fighting). You don't retaliate for someone you dont know after the situation is over.

[oh the horror]

Everyone should be an idiot then.



No dude. You see, I remember when a buddy of mine used to jump to the aid of people he knew at this bar..(we knew the owners, and random people there, etc)


Anyway, whenever a fight would break out, he'd jump to their aid....and I used to tell him...."when you're sitting up in a hospital, those people may not be there for you dude"



Truth be told, being Superman can get someone severely hurt, and or killed. So best to take that risk when it TRULY matters.



Some broad that gets punched out, isnt anything to me.

At least IMO

[DaniloGallinari]

Do we even know the backstory to the girl standing around there and why she got hit? Maybe she was popping off the whole night, or actually hit the guy before the camera got rolling. You never know.

[tpols]

No dude. You see, I remember when a buddy of mine used to jump to the aid of people he knew at this bar..(we knew the owners, and random people there, etc)


Anyway, whenever a fight would break out, he'd jump to their aid....and I used to tell him...."when you're sitting up in a hospital, those people may not be there for you dude"



Truth be told, being Superman can get someone severely hurt, and or killed. So best to take that risk when it TRULY matters.



Some broad that gets punched out, isnt anything to me.

At least IMO
exactly what the f!ck is it to a stranger if a b!tch gets hit in the face? If it were to keep going okay you get the guy off her anyway you can but if its over?smh.

I've never heard of an intelligent person doing something like this.

[GOBB]

Do we even know the backstory to the girl standing around there and why she got hit? Maybe she was popping off the whole night, or actually hit the guy before the camera got rolling. You never know.

Irrelevant. We dont need a backstory to the girl who was SUCKER PUNCHED!

[oh the horror]

Now if a guy is POUNDING on a woman, I will pull him off. Im not going to let some dude sit there, and bludgeon a woman while Im standing there, but if a chick in the middle of a scuffle gets punched out? Thats on her.

[fatboy11]

where do I begin man:facepalm

Punkass people like me who don't advocate unnecessary violence? The biggest problem in this world is people fighting and killing each other over stupid shit and I'm the dumbass who wants it to stop? Check your words bro.

stick up for who? that shit was over. He made it worse by bringing more violence into it. Dude got his head stomped because huerta attacked him. That damage is going to be a lot worse than what happened to the female. Oh but she was a girl so the emotional appeal overrides this.:facepalmRoger didn't attacked that guy. That guy squared off on him. Roger tried to talk to him and he started to fight. Not Roger.


Police weren't around? DO YOU HAVE F!CKING EARS?! holy sh!t man. This will def be investigated and charges will be booked. Who cares what you can hear? That video was like 5 minutes long, edited, and I didn't see a single cop.


Help people out? THE SITUATION WAS OVER. THE BLACK MAN SWUNG AND WALKED AWAY. HES A P!SSY BUT IT WAS OVER. That wasn't defense dumbass it was retaliation. look up the difference.

Oh but youre right bro, "Man I would ve slugged that dude bro. would of laid him out. no one touches girls like that bro. I'd've totally raped him man":facepalm If he f!cks with you you can **** him up. If he touches your family you **** him up. If you can stop the violence for a stranger you stop it (even with fighting). You don't retaliate for someone you dont know after the situation is over.Again, Roger attacked him? Might want to watch the video again.

[tpols]

See, that's the thing, though. People like that are willing to take the risk of getting hurt to help someone out. That's an admirable thing to do. Just because most of don't have the stones to do, that doesn't make that person stupid. It makes them brave and compassionate for someone who just attacked. I agree that violence isn't the best way. However, sometimes it is the only way. And it can teach lessons.

It's not like Roger just jumped on the guy. He was just trying to talk to him at first and then the guy squared off. Oh well. It's not like Roger's running around saying "Do you know who I am?" and acting all bad. He was genuinely upset. We can sit around and call him stupid and say he shouldn't have done anything, but that's bullshit. We should all look in the mirror and be disappointment that we aren't brave or selfless enough to people someone out. You can hide behind "being smart" but that doesn't mean you aren't selfish. That's not the way God intended us to be (and I don't want to start a religious flame war). It's one of the things I hate most about myself. I don't do for others nearly enough because I'm selfish and scared. Not afraid to admit it.
Why do you keep confusing defense with retaliation. THE SITUATION WAS OVER. There was no defense to be had because there was no more violence. The black dude walked away.

Retaliation is not brave and compassionate. Unless it involves you, or your family/friends its just a dumbass thing to do.

God would not condone either act by huerta or the black dude. God says to help those in need. That woman wasn't in need of anything because the situation was over. God says to let him deliver the punishment not the people and that you should not judge other people because how you judge others will be how you will be judged in the end. Get your religion right man.

[fatboy11]

No dude. You see, I remember when a buddy of mine used to jump to the aid of people he knew at this bar..(we knew the owners, and random people there, etc)


Anyway, whenever a fight would break out, he'd jump to their aid....and I used to tell him...."when you're sitting up in a hospital, those people may not be there for you dude"



Truth be told, being Superman can get someone severely hurt, and or killed. So best to take that risk when it TRULY matters.



Some broad that gets punched out, isnt anything to me.

At least IMOWhy are you trying to lecture me when I've already acknowledged such risks? To look at your own words on the computer screen?

You're confining what I'm talking about to just fight type situations, and that's not all I'm talking about. Not even close. But that doesn't stop people from still not helping people even when there is no threat of violence.

I'm not saying if someone hits someone, you should beat them up. Not at all. But you should do something. We have no clue what Roger was really trying to do because the black guy tried to fight right off the bat.

[tpols]

Roger didn't attacked that guy. That guy squared off on him. Roger tried to talk to him and he started to fight. Not Roger.

Who cares what you can hear? That video was like 5 minutes long, edited, and I didn't see a single cop.

Again, Roger attacked him? Might want to watch the video again.
What was roger planning on doing? Having a nice little chat with him about proper treatment of women?

Youre right lets disregard the deafening cop sirens because we couldn't physically see the cop car.

[fatboy11]

Why do you keep confusing defense with retaliation. THE SITUATION WAS OVER. There was no defense to be had because there was no more violence. The black dude walked away.

Retaliation is not brave and compassionate. Unless it involves you, or your family/friends its just a dumbass thing to do.

God would not condone either act by huerta or the black dude. God says to help those in need. That woman wasn't in need of anything because the situation was over. God says to let him deliver the punishment not the people and that you should not judge other people because how you judge others will be how you will be judged in the end. Get your religion right man.She wasn't in need of anything? Really? Medical attention? Justice?

Roger didn't walk up and start kicking the guy's ass. The guy tried to fight him first. That isn't retaliation. That's the definition of defense.

Get my religion right? Seriously? I'm talking about HELPING people. I'm not saying going around and beat up people who hit people. You're putting those words in my mouth. Violence isn't right, but sometimes it is necessary, and at times is unavoidable. This wasn't a case of it being unavoidable, but you don't really know what Roger's true intentions were. They certainly weren't to just stand there and let that dude get away (which he definitely would have since the cops were not present at the scene).

[fatboy11]

What was roger planning on doing? Having a nice little chat with him about proper treatment of women? Who knows?


Youre right lets disregard the deafening cop sirens because we couldn't physically see the cop car.Might as well disregard them. The cops weren't there to protect the woman or broke up the fight. That tells me they pretty much didn't do shit, did they?

[fatboy11]

[QUOTE]In a phone conversation just moments ago, Huerta told us he tried to remain calm early Saturday morning when he watched some random "huge guy" punch a girl in the head in the middle of the street ... explaining,

[tpols]

http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/05/roger-huerta-ufc-interview-bloody-fight-hit-me-first-austin-texas-street-fight/
Didn't know the black guy said that shit. Just thought huerta approached him took his shirt off, and then they both started fighting. Guys a double dumbass for hitting the girl and then challenging everyone around him to a fight.

[joyner82]

[QUOTE]"F*ck you, f*ck these *******, I'll knock out any f*ckin' ***** that I wanna f*ckin' knock out, I

[fatboy11]

By the way, I just read an article about the incident and Huerta's manager said he was in Austin to visit his mother. Now, this woman is his adopted mother. The teacher who took him in, not his biological mother than beat him and abandoned him. Just wanted to clear that up.

[GOBB]

Any info if charges will be filed from any of the parties?

[Poodle]

this is one of the biggest tease videos i've ever seen. watchign that clip is like trying to watch AvP. F'in terrible camera work, and missing the KO blow knowing how it ended and who did it and why is more than i can handle. To top it off you can't even rewind that TMZ clip to slow mo the sucker punch on the girl :wtf:

i wish that dude unloaded early on Huerta, then they would've squared up right there and we would've had a perfect angle. not to mention Huerta's gay boyfriend chasing and yelling his name would've probably got wrecked if he followed thru after squaring up.

anyone else found it kind of funny how it was the brotha crew in the middle of it? they would've gotten away with it too if Huerta weren't there. that other weakling bouncing off of the big black dude, and getting the kicks in at the end would've had no chance by himself, and it looked like everybody else was scared to get involved.

[GOBB]

this is one of the biggest tease videos i've ever seen. watchign that clip is like trying to watch AvP. F'in terrible camera work, and missing the KO blow knowing how it ended and who did it and why is more than i can handle. To top it off you can't even rewind that TMZ clip to slow mo the sucker punch on the girl :wtf:

i wish that dude unloaded early on Huerta, then they would've squared up right there and we would've had a perfect angle. not to mention Huerta's gay boyfriend chasing and yelling his name would've probably got wrecked if he followed thru after squaring up.

anyone else found it kind of funny how it was the brotha crew in the middle of it? they would've gotten away with it too if Huerta weren't there. that other weakling bouncing off of the big black dude, and getting the kicks in at the end would've had no chance by himself, and it looked like everybody else was scared to get involved.

$50 to anyone that can trasnlate this crap. :facepalm

[Poodle]

$50 to anyone that can trasnlate this crap. :facepalm


yo broke ass doesn't even have $50, and moderating ISH ain't a real job, don't play yourself mud foot :lol

[BRabbiT]

$50 to anyone that can trasnlate this crap. :facepalm


:lol

[DaniloGallinari]

$50 to anyone that can trasnlate :applause:this crap. :facepalm
Are you going to pay by paypal?

[GOBB]

Are you going to pay by paypal?

Most certainly.

[Poodle]

Most certainly.


you rob somebody?

[joyner82]

Talked to a guy who was there and saw exactly what happened.

Big black guy unloaded on Huerta with a huge haymaker which Roger ducked. Roger then hit him with 1 clean shot and knocked the guy smooth out. After that shot 5-6 people started stomping the guys head and Huerta wasn't one of them.

Said he was probably outweighed by 100 pounds and just dropped the guy with 1 shot like it was nothing.

[Jackass18]

So you're saying a 170lbs fighter would beat a regular 220lbs man in 10 seconds? That's just stupid...

You have no idea of what you're talking about. Melvin Manhoef, who weighed 196lbs, KO'd Mark Hunt, who weighed 287lbs, in 18 seconds, and not only that, but Hunt was known as having one the best chins in MMA/K-1. Most of that 18 seconds was the 2 fighters feeling each other out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf9U0quIrB8

[Jackass18]

God would not condone either act by huerta or the black dude. God says to help those in need. That woman wasn't in need of anything because the situation was over. God says to let him deliver the punishment not the people and that you should not judge other people because how you judge others will be how you will be judged in the end. Get your religion right man.

Doesn't the bible say, "An eye for an eye"?

[tpols]

Doesn't the bible say, "An eye for an eye"?
I thought that was the hammurabi's code from ancient mesopotamia

[JustinJDW]

Huerta wasn't the one that stomped on his head. Look at the shoes. So as far as we know, Huerta just knocked the guy out, which is completely fine after that ***** ass black guy sucker punched that woman.

[The_Night_Elf]

Like Roger Huerta needed more pull with women, he goes and plays white night...:pimp:

[Poodle]

Talked to a guy who was there and saw exactly what happened.

Big black guy unloaded on Huerta with a huge haymaker which Roger ducked. Roger then hit him with 1 clean shot and knocked the guy smooth out. After that shot 5-6 people started stomping the guys head and Huerta wasn't one of them.

Said he was probably outweighed by 100 pounds and just dropped the guy with 1 shot like it was nothing.


did u ask him why the big black dude KO'd that girl at the start, and how it all started? :confusedshrug:

since there was another big light skinned black guy that looked like he was fighthing before everything we saw happened. he had his shirt off at least.

[fatboy11]

Talked to a guy who was there and saw exactly what happened.

Big black guy unloaded on Huerta with a huge haymaker which Roger ducked. Roger then hit him with 1 clean shot and knocked the guy smooth out. After that shot 5-6 people started stomping the guys head and Huerta wasn't one of them.

Said he was probably outweighed by 100 pounds and just dropped the guy with 1 shot like it was nothing.Sounds about right.

I'll admit that I did think it was Huerta that stomped his head at first, but I was shocked that he'd do that. Even being a pro fighter, that didn't seem like something he'd do. Roger dropping the guy with 1 punch and quitting seems to lend credibility to what Roger said happened. He was just defending himself. He neutralized his foe and was done with it.

That head stomping business is about as bad as punching the girl from behind. There's no call for either. There's no call for violence, but I'm more inclined to want to see someone get an ass kicking for something like cold cocking some chick from behind (even if she was a loud mouth *****). But just a plain old ass kicking. No head stomping or anything that could really hurt someone. Just enough to give them something to think about and maybe teach them a lesson.

I'm not saying that this whole situation should have been handled with violence, but I'm not unhappy that the guy got his ass kicked (minus the stomping). I'm just saying that I'm glad Roger Huerta stepped up to at least tell the guy to his face in front of everyone that what he did was wrong. It's icing on the cake that the guy decided to have a go at Roger and got his clocked cleaned. World needs more people like Roger willing to step up and speak up when something like that happens and just do something about it. You don't necessarily have resort to violence, but take a stand.

Then again, maybe that's just an exercise in futility. I mean, we as humans have been this way for how long now? :confusedshrug:

[GOBB]

Since when was joyner a credible source on ISH? :oldlol:

[dajadeed]

Even if the cops talk to the girl and she says she doesn't want to press charges on the black guy if he doesn't press charges on Roger?

Or is it not up to those two individuals? Maybe that only applies to "he said/she said" type disputes where there is no evidence of who started the violence.


It's all on tape. The cops don't need the go-ahead to charge anyone from anybody. Both the black guy and Roger can be charged by the cops since the incident is on tape. Whether or not anyone wants to press charges is irrelevant.

[Poodle]

It's all on tape. The cops don't need the go-ahead to charge anyone from anybody. Both the black guy and Roger can be charged by the cops since the incident is on tape. Whether or not anyone wants to press charges is irrelevant.


there is no video footage of Huerta hitting the guy. they could get the big black guy for hitting the girl, and MAYBE the kid stomping the KO'd big black guy, but that is the only incriminating footage on the tape.

[fatboy11]

It's all on tape. The cops don't need the go-ahead to charge anyone from anybody. Both the black guy and Roger can be charged by the cops since the incident is on tape. Whether or not anyone wants to press charges is irrelevant.Yeah, someone mentioned that earlier. I can see that.

But, it doesn't show Roger actually hit the guy. And Roger wasn't the one who was shown stomping the guy. We'll see what happened. Apparently, legal aid has already been volunteered for multiple sources if it goes that way.

[Da KO King]

To hell with all this "you should never hit a woman" crap. I've seen more than a few women that:

A - can hold their own
B - needed their ass whooped.

Point A is a self explanatory.

Point B should be also. I seen a chic bust a dude over the head with a glass bottle in a club. Does she not deserve a a swift left hook to the jaw?

Let's stop this silly generalization that "all women are delicate" and shouldn't be touched.

[fatboy11]

To hell with all this "you should never hit a woman" crap. I've seen more than a few women that:

A - can hold their own
B - needed their ass whooped.

Point A is a self explanatory.

Point B should be also. I seen a chic bust a dude over the head with a glass bottle in a club. Does she not deserve a a swift left hook to the jaw?

Let's stop this silly generalization that "all women are delicate" and shouldn't be touched.Agreed. There are certain instances were it could be justified.

But this isn't one of them. I'm have no doubt that this chick was probably running her mouth and drunk, but there's nothing that a woman can say to me to make me hit her.

Someone post that youtube video of that big black chick beating down a dude in the street.

EDIT: Here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzg1YzZXNH0&has_verified=1

[Poodle]

To hell with all this "you should never hit a woman" crap. I've seen more than a few women that:

A - can hold their own
B - needed their ass whooped.

Point A is a self explanatory.

Point B should be also. I seen a chic bust a dude over the head with a glass bottle in a club. Does she not deserve a a swift left hook to the jaw?

Let's stop this silly generalization that "all women are delicate" and shouldn't be touched.


i agree, too many white knights in this thread talking absolutes. i doubt the ***** deserved it but talking in absolutes is ignorant. shit happens, and some girls abuse the fact that a man won't hit them, or even think they can beat guys up.

[fatboy11]

The guy he KO'd was former Texas Longhorns LB Rashad Bobino. I guess he played briefly with the Falcons last year.

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/08/08/roger-huerta-knocked-out-an-ex-longhorn-lb/


Last weekend, former UFC fighter Roger Huerta was involved in a street fight outside an Austin bar. TMZ obtained video of Huerta confronting a man who had sucker-punched a woman. Unsurprisingly, the 155-pound Huerta knocked the guy out cold. Well, we now know who the woman-hitting jerk is. According to SPORTSbyBROOKS the guy that tried to take on the Bellator fighter was former Texas Longhorn, Rashad Bobino.

Listed at 230-pounds during his days at Texas, Bobino spent some time with the Falcons last year before being cut. You have to appreciate the fact that Huerta took down a former Texas athlete in Austin. Most big time college athletes can get away with murder in the city they play in so you have to wonder what past transgretions this guy has gotten away with to make him think he could punch a woman. Let alone the fact that he was in public. Huerta says Bobino responded to him by saying:

“F*ck you, f*ck these *******, I’ll knock out any f*ckin’ ***** that I wanna f*ckin’ knock out, I’ll knock your f*cking ***** ass out.”

Maybe next time he won’t pick on people smaller than him. Especially women and professional fighters.

Any Longhorn fans want to speak on him?

[boozehound]

The guy he KO'd was former Texas Longhorns LB Rashad Bobino. I guess he played briefly with the Falcons last year.

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/08/08/roger-huerta-knocked-out-an-ex-longhorn-lb/



Any Longhorn fans want to speak on him?
well, as an aggie (of sorts) I feel I am obligated to make some sort of comment.

Stay Classy Horns! WHoop!

[Zombles]

If you're man enough to punch a woman in the back of the head when she's looking away then you're man enough to get knocked the **** out by a professional fighter and stomped on.

Can't believe some of the shit in this thread. She didn't kill his ****ing kids and she wasn't threatening him, no excuse to ever hit a woman in that situation :no:

didn't your mothers raise you better

[Jackass18]

Is there any word as to why he hit the woman?

[Juges8932]

To hell with all this "you should never hit a woman" crap. I've seen more than a few women that:

A - can hold their own
B - needed their ass whooped.

Point A is a self explanatory.

Point B should be also. I seen a chic bust a dude over the head with a glass bottle in a club. Does she not deserve a a swift left hook to the jaw?

Let's stop this silly generalization that "all women are delicate" and shouldn't be touched.
Agreed.

[GOBB]

i agree, too many white knights in this thread talking absolutes. i doubt the ***** deserved it but talking in absolutes is ignorant. shit happens, and some girls abuse the fact that a man won't hit them, or even think they can beat guys up.

I like how you call the female out her name because you just ASSume she did wrong for that black dude to sucker punch her to the ground. You sound like a scorned male who has been rejected by woman offline. Maybe you should just be a homosexual since its not working out for you with the ladies? :confusedshrug:

[Zombles]

i love that there are so many cats in here saying, "but you can hit women sometimes!!!!! they hit back!!!" :roll: :roll:

such an epidemic of woman on man violence in this country, someone needs to stand up to it.

and the sometimes doesn't include a drunk chick with her back to you.

[Dasher]

i love that there are so many cats in here saying, "but you can hit women sometimes!!!!! they hit back!!!" :roll: :roll:

such an epidemic of woman on man violence in this country, someone needs to stand up to it.

and the sometimes doesn't include a drunk chick with her back to you.Actually it is. One of the fastest growing crimes in America is women assaulting men. A quick google search will point that out. I personally know several men who were either killed or grievously injured by women.

[Zombles]

It is a growing crime but it is a small fraction of male on female violence, which is still the far more serious problem.

Not saying we accept either one, but this was a case of male on female violence and dudes roll in here trying to potentially justify something.

[Dasher]

It is a growing crime but it is a small fraction of male on female violence, which is still the far more serious problem.

Not saying we accept either one, but this was a case of male on female violence and dudes roll in here trying to potentially justify something.
Actually it is not a small fraction. The majority of male/female violence is female initiated.

[GOBB]

As a man you have to defend yourself no matter what. A chick punching on me when I know I could break her in half? No brainer. A chick that goes upside my head with a bottle? I'm going to smack her so hard snot will come out her nose sideways. Females will take advantage of the "males dont hit females" belief. I dont want no dude hitting my daughter but my daughter will be schooled on putting her hands, taking objects and becoming violent with them towards a male. She will know everyone doesnt believe in females dont hit males. So she wont be apart of the extreme cases where she is now open for a male to tee off on her like Tiger Woods at a majors.

You can walk away from a female crying, swinging on you. I'm not so sure I can walk away from a female who cracked my head open like a pistacio with a damn bottle. To me that is filed under one of many circumstances where the gender gets thrown out.

[boozehound]

Actually it is not a small fraction. The majority of male/female violence is female initiated.
meh. Im not saying that it doesnt happen, but in most cases that shit is weak and the larger situation could be avoided by dude walking away. I also think that the studies which show this are circumstantial at best.

Besides, in the case in hand, all physical contact in the immediate timeframe was initiated by the Longhorn. This hypothetical nonsense has nothing to do with it.

LeJeune, C., & Follette, V. (1994). Taking Responsibility. Sex Differences in reporting dating violence. Journal of Interpersonal Violence, 9, 133-140. (A sample of 465 college students <58.3% male, 41.7% female> responded to a mailed survey of CTS items. Results reveal that 42.4% of female respondents report that they "usually initiate violent acts in their relationship" compared to 14.3% of male respondents who report "that they usually initiate violence." Females also report that 39.4% of their male partners initiate violence while 52.4% of males report that violence is initiated by their female partners. Authors speculate that this discrepancy suggests that "females are more likely than males to accept responsibility for initiating violence.")

Stets, J. E., & Straus, M. A. (1990). Gender differences in reporting marital violence and its medical and psychological consequences. In M. A. Straus & R. J. Gelles (Eds.), Physical violence in American families: Risk factors and adaptations to violence in 8,145 families (pp. 151-166). New Brunswick, NJ: Transaction. (Reports information regarding the initiation of violence. In a sample of 297 men and 428 women, men said they struck the first blow in 43.7% of cases, and their partner hit first in 44.1% of cases and could not disentangle who hit first in remaining 12.2%. Women report hitting first in 52.7% of cases, their partners in 42.6% and could not disentangle who hit first in remaining 4.7%. Authors conclude that violence by women is not primarily defensive.)

[tontoz]

I don't see Huerta getting any jail time for this. Even if he does get charged, which is iffy, he would still have to go through the legal process get jail time. I doubt a jury would be very eager to convict him and (depending on his background) i doubt a judge would be that harsh with him when sentencing time rolled around (assuming he got convicted).

Punk got what he deserved. :applause:

[Poodle]

I like how you call the female out her name because you just ASSume she did wrong for that black dude to sucker punch her to the ground. You sound like a scorned male who has been rejected by woman offline. Maybe you should just be a homosexual since its not working out for you with the ladies? :confusedshrug:


you must be illiterate *****, since i said she probably didn't deserve it dumbass.

at least i'm not an insecure oreo cookie insecure of my race like you fgt :oldlol: bad enough you're like 50 and live here, but white knight'ing like your shit don't stink and being so chivalrous is pretty laughable coming from your hard talking persona here. let me guess white knight by day, xbox tough guy e thug by night? :lol

i'll shake you every time old man. on the nba forum i made you look dumb, and i'll make you look dumb here too, has been legend of ISH...get off my nuts.

[Poodle]

As a man you have to defend yourself no matter what. A chick punching on me when I know I could break her in half? No brainer. A chick that goes upside my head with a bottle? I'm going to smack her so hard snot will come out her nose sideways. Females will take advantage of the "males dont hit females" belief. I dont want no dude hitting my daughter but my daughter will be schooled on putting her hands, taking objects and becoming violent with them towards a male. She will know everyone doesnt believe in females dont hit males. So she wont be apart of the extreme cases where she is now open for a male to tee off on her like Tiger Woods at a majors.

You can walk away from a female crying, swinging on you. I'm not so sure I can walk away from a female who cracked my head open like a pistacio with a damn bottle. To me that is filed under one of many circumstances where the gender gets thrown out.


you must've posted this one when your xbox live personality took over :oldlol:

get help old man, sounds like dementia is kickiing in.

[Zombles]

Actually it is not a small fraction. The majority of male/female violence is female initiated.

Females being more likely to admit to initiating a violent confrontation does not mean they actually initiate them more often than males, not too many guys are gonna be keen on saying "yeah i totally ****ed that ***** up for messing up my laundry".

And even if the female initiates the confrontation men are physically stronger and kill/seriously injure females far more frequently than the opposite, men are three times as likely to kill the woman in the relationship then vica-versa according to the Department of Justice. As Spiderman would say, with strength comes responsibility. Part of being a man.

But my real point is that THIS girl, in THIS case, had her back to the guy in a completely unthreatening posture when HE initiated violence by punching her in the back of the head, then hundreds of keyboard alpha males run out of the woodworks and say, "well, ***** coulda deserved it we don't know ******* deserve it sometimes."

Sometimes, sure. Self-defense, absolutely. Not this time. Not by a country mile.

[flipogb]

dude was a damn giant compared to that girl

doesn't matter what caused it unless she murdered someone

she was in no way a physical threat to the guy, so he deserved what he got

[Poodle]

i can't believe that dude was a NFL football player. he didn't even look that big but i guess its hard to tell from the footage. he even looked pretty sloppy. he played for the Falcons? :wtf:

he's pretty screwed since theres so much attention to this story, he's going to get it as bad as Snookie's assailant got it by the public. can't see ATL being cool with this, and no way they haven't heard from somebody at this point.

[fatboy11]

i can't believe that dude was a NFL football player. he didn't even look that big but i guess its hard to tell from the footage. he even looked pretty sloppy. he played for the Falcons? :wtf:

he's pretty screwed since theres so much attention to this story, he's going to get it as bad as Snookie's assailant got it by the public. can't see ATL being cool with this, and no way they haven't heard from somebody at this point.I don't think he plays for an NFL at the moment. I think he was cut by the Falcons at some point before this.

[boozehound]

I don't think he plays for an NFL at the moment. I think he was cut by the Falcons at some point before this.
yeah he was. also, poodle, you dont think he looks that big? Really? what are you, big sofo?

[Poodle]

yeah he was. also, poodle, you dont think he looks that big? Really? what are you, big sofo?

well when i think NFL football player i think huge, and towering. i mean he looked pretty big but that was next to a 155 Huerta...

i can't remember if he was a defensive back or linebacker, but if he was a linebacker then yeah i'd expect him to be bigger than that. even then he looked pretty sloppy. damn it sux he and Huerta didn't get it on when he first squared Huerta up.