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Papaya Petee
08-17-2010, 09:24 PM
the heat's front court would be the ball boys in los angeles

Cool, that's why they split the games with LA without a 24\11\2 PF and a 30\8\7 SF.

SourGrapes
08-17-2010, 09:26 PM
Cool, that's why they split the games with LA without a 24\11\2 PF and a 30\8\7 SF.

that's why the heat lost in round ? while the lakers lost in round ? :rolleyes:

oh yeah, championship

All Net
08-17-2010, 09:28 PM
Cool, that's why they split the games with LA without a 24\11\2 PF and a 30\8\7 SF.

Comparing the regular season? really? and another thing Bosh isn't going to be a 24/11 guy in Miami. You know that right?

Kobe8
08-17-2010, 09:37 PM
1 Word - Patience

Rep Me if you think im right , but dont negative rep me if you think im wrong it'll mess up my motivation for tommorow!

jrong
08-18-2010, 12:33 AM
Have you ever seen the best player, the second best player and one of the best PF play together in their prime before? I don't think you really understand how big this really is.

It really, really is. I'm not even sure how Bosh fits into the mix yet but very few people are grasping the reality of what it will be like just to have Wade and James on the same team. If the Heat can figure out how to fully harness their talents simultaneously (and those of Bosh), they could be unguardable.

Moreover, Miami will always have one or the other on court. One of the key ways teams beat the Cavs and the Heat was to take advantage of the times when James and Wade went to the bench. But, one or the other will always be out there-- that's right Miami will have at least one top three player on the floor at all times for a full fourty-eight minutes... if the game is competitive that long. And then of course, for two-thirds of the game or more the Heat will have TWO top three players on the floor.

And when Wade and James do take their alternating, consecutive rests, Mike Miller will get extended run. So now opposing defenses still have to deal with James or Wade running pick-and-rolls with Bosh/Haslem and now they have a better shooter to kick to than either of them have ever had.

The sum-total of all this is that the Heat will not be weak during any part of the game. There is no part of a game in which they will have any trouble at all putting up points....

barbaroi
08-18-2010, 12:45 AM
All I gotta say, is that Lakers #1 Option would be the #3 Option in Miami.
:oldlol: This guy's a comedian.

madmax
08-18-2010, 02:04 AM
:oldlol: This guy's a comedian.
he's correct though:cheers:

Vicp493
08-18-2010, 03:22 AM
Thats your opinion, you could place Lebron/Kobe/Wade in any order they are that close.

No, they aren't. LeBron is head and shoulders above anyone else.

oh the horror
08-18-2010, 03:25 AM
No, they aren't. LeBron is head and shoulders above anyone else.



Uh huh, except for the fact that the kid has the willpower of a 10 year old girl. But we'll over look that fact, because he has super cool stats.


Head and shoulders my ASS.

Vicp493
08-18-2010, 03:28 AM
Uh huh, except for the fact that the kid has the willpower of a 10 year old girl. But we'll over look that fact, because he has super cool stats.


Head and shoulders my ASS.

Who cares how much effort he puts in? He's still the best player in the game by a wide margin, and has been for a few years now.

barbaroi
08-18-2010, 03:44 AM
Who cares how much effort he puts in? He's still the best player in the game by a wide margin, and has been for a few years now.
So we're just ignoring the playoffs now are we?

Vicp493
08-18-2010, 03:46 AM
So we're just ignoring the playoffs now are we?

82 game samples > 4-28 game samples

barbaroi
08-18-2010, 03:51 AM
82 game samples > 4-28 game samples
:oldlol: What a champ you would make. Spoken like a true Lebron fan.

Jacks3
08-18-2010, 04:22 AM
2010 Playoffs, Bynum, Odom, Gasol: 39/29/5
2009 Playoffs, Bynum,Odom,Gasol: 36/24/5
Very solid, but hardly dominant. Multiple front-courts can match that. Do people honestly think the Heat are going to be worried about Odom's 11/10 or Bynum's 8/7 ? I'm sure they're shaking in their boots. :oldlol: Especially given how wildly inconsistent Odom is, and how injury prone Bynum is. Only guy they should really worry about is Gasol, and he sure as hell isn't a dominant player. :facepalm

Nash
08-18-2010, 07:21 AM
2010 Playoffs, Bynum, Odom, Gasol: 39/29/5
2009 Playoffs, Bynum,Odom,Gasol: 36/24/5
Very solid, but hardly dominant. Multiple front-courts can match that. Do people honestly think the Heat are going to be worried about Odom's 11/10 or Bynum's 8/7 ? I'm sure they're shaking in their boots. :oldlol: Especially given how wildly inconsistent Odom is, and how injury prone Bynum is. Only guy they should really worry about is Gasol, and he sure as hell isn't a dominant player. :facepalm
Great post.

Riddler
08-18-2010, 07:27 AM
It will be so glorious when Miami fails.

Quotable
08-18-2010, 08:34 AM
It's not so much defending the Laker bigs, it's not getting killed by them on the glass, especially offensive glass.

Doranku
08-18-2010, 08:43 AM
Did anyone watch the LA/Oklahoma series? LA had an even bigger advantage inside against them WITH HCA, and they barely squeezed out a 6 game series. LA's frontcourt isn't some unstoppable juggernaut, ace in the hole type thing. The Lakers still haven't figured out how to fully capitalize on the mismatches they pose inside, and I think that if they don't figure that out going into next years Playoffs, they will fall to Miami.

G-Funk
08-18-2010, 11:05 AM
2010 Playoffs, Bynum, Odom, Gasol: 39/29/5
2009 Playoffs, Bynum,Odom,Gasol: 36/24/5
Very solid, but hardly dominant. Multiple front-courts can match that. Do people honestly think the Heat are going to be worried about Odom's 11/10 or Bynum's 8/7 ? I'm sure they're shaking in their boots. :oldlol: Especially given how wildly inconsistent Odom is, and how injury prone Bynum is. Only guy they should really worry about is Gasol, and he sure as hell isn't a dominant player. :facepalm


Specially the Heat's Front Court.

G-Funk
08-18-2010, 11:08 AM
All I gotta say, is that Lakers #1 Option would be the #3 Option in Miami.

And all I gotta say, is that Heat #1 & #2 Option would be the #2 #3 Option in Los Angeles.

Svendiggity
08-18-2010, 11:20 AM
And all I gotta say, is that Heat #1 & #2 Option would be the #2 #3 Option in Los Angeles.

This.

L.A's best player is still underrated because when you say his name people freak out.

Samvt
08-18-2010, 12:09 PM
It's crazy how people underrate the heat's d, they were one of best last season.


also, all of a sudden lakers front court is impossible to beat. even if they have an advantage, it can't cancel out wade n bron.

G-Funk
08-18-2010, 12:28 PM
It's crazy how people underrate the heat's d, they were one of best last season.


also, all of a sudden lakers front court is impossible to beat. even if they have an advantage, it can't cancel out wade n bron.

It is possible to beat Lakers front court but not by Heat's front court. As your second statement Kobe can cancel one of them out. It's really going to come down to who can use ther strenghs best.

Fudge
08-18-2010, 12:40 PM
lol

Ilgauskas 7'3"
Magloire 6'11"
Bosh 6'10"
Pittman 6'10"
Randolph 6'10"

And you're underestimating shorter players which is a foolish thing to do.

Bynum 7'0"
Gasol 7'0"
Odom 6'10"
Ratliff 6'10"

Looks like Miami has the advantage in frontcourt category size wise. Don't you think?
You're an idiot. Nobody has a clue who half of those guys are. Sure they got size, but does ur dumbasss actually think all those guys can even put up a decent match-up against any of the Laker bigs? No.

gleden
08-18-2010, 12:42 PM
LA's big guys are actually good, the only guy who is decent out of that group is Bosh. The truth is the Heat's best post defenders are under 6-10, that may be a problem

Thats how you know when to block a user lol. Bosh is better than all of LAs big men other than Gasol and i still do think Bosh is equal to Gasol if not better. Since when is Bosh decent???????

Fudge
08-18-2010, 12:43 PM
82 game samples > 4-28 game samples
:facepalm

Don't ever think about posting again, please. :oldlol:

sodap
08-18-2010, 12:49 PM
Thats how you know when to block a user lol. Bosh is better than all of LAs big men other than Gasol and i still do think Bosh is equal to Gasol if not better. Since when is Bosh decent???????

i think what he was saying was Bosh is great, but all the others arent even decent

JustSaying
08-18-2010, 12:51 PM
lol @ Heat fans. gotta be the dumbest species on the planet.:lol

Fudge
08-18-2010, 12:52 PM
Thats how you know when to block a user lol. Bosh is better than all of LAs big men other than Gasol and i still do think Bosh is equal to Gasol if not better. Since when is Bosh decent???????
How does that make any sense? You state that Bosh is "better than all of LAs big men other than Gasol", but later say he's equal to him if not better. You're dumb.

ihatetimthomas
08-18-2010, 01:08 PM
They can't stop the Lakers front court. They simply do not have the talent or size to contend with them in the front court. The one thing that they do have on their side is speed and players who can get to the stripe. The best way to approach the Lakers is to play an untempo style of ball and try to get the Laker bigs in fould trouble. Have Wade and Lebron drive and create contact. This is the only way the Heat can beat LA. Bosh averaged 8.4 FTA last season, so we know he can get to the free throw line. Get Gasol and Bynum in FT and make the Laker bench bigs beat the Heat.

All Net
08-20-2010, 12:12 PM
They can't stop the Lakers front court. They simply do not have the talent or size to contend with them in the front court. The one thing that they do have on their side is speed and players who can get to the stripe. The best way to approach the Lakers is to play an untempo style of ball and try to get the Laker bigs in fould trouble. Have Wade and Lebron drive and create contact. This is the only way the Heat can beat LA. Bosh averaged 8.4 FTA last season, so we know he can get to the free throw line. Get Gasol and Bynum in FT and make the Laker bench bigs beat the Heat.

Only thing that is a worry for L.A is how easily Bynum gets into foul trouble. Maybe it was down to his injury but he got in foul trouble alot in the playoffs to guys who aren't great at attacking now Miami has two of the best at attacking the rim and Bosh himself as you mentioned got to the line 8 times a game last year. If they can get the Laker bigs in foul trouble the big advantage in the frontcourt won't be as big an advantage as we all expect. Be interesting how much the refs do call fouls for Miami this year.

Dresta
08-20-2010, 02:16 PM
Oh, i dunno, maybe just do the same things they've done the past 2 season vs LA. Then again Miami no longer have Beasley to punk Gasol, so they may be screwed.

olddangerfield
08-20-2010, 02:21 PM
And all I gotta say, is that Heat #1 & #2 Option would be the #2 #3 Option in Los Angeles.

The Laker's #2 and #3 options would be #4 and #5 on the heat.

SourGrapes
08-20-2010, 02:21 PM
Oh, i dunno, maybe just do the same things they've done the past 2 season vs LA. Then again Miami no longer have Beasley to punk Gasol, so they may be screwed.

i didn't know they met in the playoffs, when the lakers actually give a sh*t

Kurosawa0
08-20-2010, 02:23 PM
Well, the idea would be Bosh and Gasol cancel each other out and then Miami has Anthony, Jamal, Z, Haslem and Howard to throw out at center. It may not be perfect, but I don't think it's automatically assured to fail.

Himan12
08-20-2010, 02:31 PM
It really depends on bosh, if Olympic Bosh shows up the lakers front court will have trouble. If Raptor bosh shows up (frustrating for all raptor fans to watch as he didnt develop a mean streak), Gasol will have a field day.

He will have help though, with Wade and LBJ attacking the basket, every frontcourt in the league will get in foul trouble IMO.

LA KB24
11-15-2010, 10:26 PM
Joel can handle Bynum.He won't shut him down completely but Bynum won't be able to score easily.Gasol and Bosh cancel eachother out.I also think Odom and Miller cancel eachother out.
:oldlol:

LA KB24
11-15-2010, 10:27 PM
lol

Ilgauskas 7'3"
Magloire 6'11"
Bosh 6'10"
Pittman 6'10"
Randolph 6'10"

And you're underestimating shorter players which is a foolish thing to do.

Bynum 7'0"
Gasol 7'0"
Odom 6'10"
Ratliff 6'10"

Looks like Miami has the advantage in frontcourt category size wise. Don't you think?
No.

LA KB24
11-15-2010, 10:29 PM
who's gonna stop Bosh again?
:oldlol:

LA KB24
11-15-2010, 10:33 PM
I am sure the Bulls are capable of beating the Celtics in the first round of the playoffs next year.
:roll:

GiveItToBurrito
11-15-2010, 11:03 PM
They won't. They can't. There's no way they can contain Gasol, Bynum, Odom, and Artest. Too many options there.

This. It's going to be like the OKC series, bigs doing what they're supposed to but still getting dominated because Gasol, Bynum, and Odom are just so long. Miami's going to just have to hope that Artest has slowed down enough that Lebron can dominate him. Wade and Kobe going at it one on one will be really interesting, too. One thing I like about the Heat-Laker games is that Kobe and Lebron and Wade are going to have to guard each other for the entire game.

N0Skillz
11-15-2010, 11:04 PM
LOl bringing this back form the grave arnt you =p

Mr. Jabbar
11-15-2010, 11:07 PM
We're being hysterical here.

Anthony and Haslem are very good defenders. Bosh gives you height and so does Ilgauskas.

My question is how will Lakers stop LeBron and D-Wade?

One of them usually shuts down by himself.

GiveItToBurrito
11-15-2010, 11:08 PM
One of them usually shuts down by himself.

That is the unfortunate thing about their pairing. I thought it'd work, be like Jordan and Pippen, but since neither is really a catch and shoot type, it's more like Pippen and Pippen.

LA KB24
11-15-2010, 11:17 PM
That is the unfortunate thing about their pairing. I thought it'd work, be like Jordan and Pippen, but since neither is really a catch and shoot type, it's more like Pippen and Pippen.
Yup.

opps
11-15-2010, 11:27 PM
Thank you for bumping this thread to show just how stupid Heat fans were :facepalm

You can see what I was saying on the first page.