Kobe Bryant's Rookie Season

[Maniak]

71 games played, 6 not played. His team won 56 games iirc.

Look at these BEAST STATS CARRYING HIS TEAM.

7.6ppg, 1.9 rpg, 1.3 apg, 0.7 spg, 0.3 bpg, 1.5 topg. 41.7 FG%, 37 FG%, 82 FG%, and 15.5mpg.

Look, Kobe stans, this is a message to you. There is nothing impressive about this season, although this might be a career high FG%. Kobe started out as a benchwarmer and Jordan carried his team. Kobe is 10th greatest of all time AT BEST.

Please stop trying to start stuff in a thread where Jordan gets praised. Just because Kobe was inferior to Jordan in yet another part of the game, doesn't mean you need to whine.

[Papaya Petee]

:roll: :roll:

[Yung D-Will]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[For_Three]

Everyone knows he didn't have a good rookie season. What are you trying to prove here? What does this have to do with Jordan? I want to see how good he would do at the age of 17 in the NBA

[The Next Jordan]

im with you bo!

it goes like this:

1.a. Jordan
1.b. me

2. jordan imposters

3. kobe 'i need shaq or gasol to be a success' bryant

[The Next Jordan]

Everyone knows he didn't have a good rookie season. What are you trying to prove here? What does this have to do with Jordan? I want to see how good he would do at the age of 17 in the NBA

22 5 and 5.

shut your mouth

[FCN]

71 games played, 6 not played. His team won 56 games iirc.

Look at these BEAST STATS CARRYING HIS TEAM.

7.6ppg, 1.9 rpg, 1.3 apg, 0.7 spg, 0.3 bpg, 1.5 topg. 41.7 FG%, 37 FG%, 82 FG%, and 15.5mpg.

Look, Kobe stans, this is a message to you. There is nothing impressive about this season, although this might be a career high FG%. Kobe started out as a benchwarmer and Jordan carried his team. Kobe is 10th greatest of all time AT BEST.

Please stop trying to start stuff in a thread where Jordan gets praised. Just because Kobe was inferior to Jordan in yet another part of the game, doesn't mean you need to whine.

I am far from a Kobe Stan, quite the opposite in fact, but this thread is dumb. How can you make fun of a guy for having less than stellar stats when he was coming off the bench (behind Eddie Jones) and only playing 15 mpg???
Never mind the fact that he was only 17 years old, and was still developing. Jordan had 4 years of college, no? Not really fair to compare their rookie seasons against each other.

I'm not trying to say Kobe was as good as Jordan, but even a Kobe hater like my self can not in good conscience deny his greatness.

[Dwade305]

He did have the best rookie performance in the playoffs though against the Jazz. What other rookie could have airballed those 3's so eloquently? What other rookie had such a huge ego to try and make those shots? Only the GOAT KB 24, plz remeber that:rockon:

[Yung D-Will]

He did have the best rookie performance in the playoffs though against the Jazz. What other rookie could have airballed those 3's so eloquently? What other rookie had such huge confidence to try and make those shots? Only the GOAT KB 24, plz remeber that:rockon:
Fixed

[Maniak]

Seeing as lots of people in this thread don't get it, theres a thread about Jordan's rookie season, and Kobe fanboys were bashing it. I figured I'd show them how much better Jordan was.

[plowking]

I bet this "The Next Jordan" poster sucks at basketball.

Post a video kid or shut the hell up.

[Desperado]

Yeah let's bring up the stats of a 18 year old rookie coming out of high school that was playing limited minutes on a team with proven all-stars Shaq, Eddie Jones and Nick Van Exel in a structured offense. Compared to Jordan who was given a free reign and a green light to chuck the moment he came to the NBA.

Let's look at Kobe's first full season as a STARTER:

22.5 ppg 6.3 rpg 4.9 apg 1.6 spg

NBA Champion

All-Star

All-Defensive 1st team

Not to mention numerous clutch performances that year.

[Slam13]

Jordan was 21 in his rookie season and he went to college, you shouldn't really compare Kobe at 17 without college to Jordan.

Jordan is the GOAT tho.

[Maniak]

22.5 ppg 6.3 rpg 4.9 apg 1.6 spg

NBA Champion

All-Star

All-Defensive 1st team

Not to mention numerous clutch performances that year.


:rolleyes:

[Bring-Your-Js]

Can The Season Start Already?

[juju151111]

Yeah let's bring up the stats of a 18 year old rookie coming out of high school that was playing limited minutes on a team with proven all-stars Shaq, Eddie Jones and Nick Van Exel in a structured offense. Compared to Jordan who was given a free reign and a green light to chuck the moment he came to the NBA.

Let's look at Kobe's first full season as a STARTER:

22.5 ppg 6.3 rpg 4.9 apg 1.6 spg

NBA Champion

All-Star

All-Defensive 1st team

Not to mention numerous clutch performances that year.
I thought this thread was about rookie season??

[The Next Jordan]

I bet this "The Next Jordan" poster sucks at basketball.

Post a video kid or shut the hell up.

jealous? i have a trainer at 17 and i have played against jwall, jennings, evans, and a few nba scrubs. evans is a tough cover, much to strong for me at the mo. i'll get him i na few years

[Desperado]

I thought this thread was about rookie season??

Well now it's about first full season as a STARTER!

[Aye Dee]

I am far from a Kobe Stan, quite the opposite in fact, but this thread is dumb. How can you make fun of a guy for having less than stellar stats when he was coming off the bench (behind Eddie Jones) and only playing 15 mpg???
Never mind the fact that he was only 17 years old, and was still developing. Jordan had 4 years of college, no? Not really fair to compare their rookie seasons against each other.

I'm not trying to say Kobe was as good as Jordan, but even a Kobe hater like my self can not in good conscience deny his greatness.


Jordan had 3 years of college. Maybe if Kobe wouldve went to school he wouldve had better numbers...

[The Next Jordan]

kobe bryant is a punk ass pretender wannabe. he lied to his wife, lied to the world and has now lied to basketball fans.... stupid thing is most people belief this guy!!!

he is a cheater, a lier and he has fooled pppl into thinkin hes the best baller of alltime...... iditits!

[juju151111]

Well now it's about first full season as a STARTER!
and i repeat my question. I Thought this thread was about ROOKIE season.

[Maniak]

Well now it's about first full season as a STARTER!
No, it isnt.

Im the thread creator. You're a troll. This thread is still about his rookie season.

Move along.

[plowking]

jealous? i have a trainer at 17 and i have played against jwall, jennings, evans, and a few nba scrubs. evans is a tough cover, much to strong for me at the mo. i'll get him i na few years

No.

Name or shut up.

[Desperado]

kobe bryant is a punk ass pretender wannabe. he lied to his wife, lied to the world and has now lied to basketball fans.... stupid thing is most people belief this guy!!!

he is a cheater, a lier and he has fooled pppl into thinkin hes the best baller of alltime...... iditits!

Jordan is also everything you mentioned. He also lied to his wife and the basketball world but of course the media and David Stern toke measures and made sure they proceed his ''image''.

[Aye Dee]

Jordan is also everything you mentioned. He also lied to his wife and the basketball world but of course the media and David Stern toke measures and made sure they proceed his ''image''.


What did he lie to the basketball world about?

[Bring-Your-Js]

... And so it begins.

[Desperado]

No, it isnt.

Im the thread creator. You're a troll. This thread is still about his rookie season.

Move along.

I never claimed to be the OP, I just toke control of the thread and put things into perspective. This is my thread now and its about numbers as as a starter.


Now STFU and sit your ass down!


btw

http://i28.tinypic.com/6h0p78.jpg

[Rose]

I never claimed to be the OP, I just toke control of the thread and put things into perspective. This is my thread now and its about numbers as as a starter.

Don't blame Jordan because he was better his ROOKIE year. And automatically came in as the alpha dog. He's the greatest for a reason. so you STFU, and talk about Kobe's ROOKIE year. Excuses are just that EXCUSES.

[Maniak]

I never claimed to be the OP, I just toke control of the thread and put things into perspective. This is my thread now and its about numbers as as a starter.

You can toke all you want. You can toke until your balls drop. Its still my thread, and my topic. You're just mad Kobe was never perfect. BUT GUESS WHAT. Jordan is never perfect. He has a world famous quote about bricking shots. I'll accept every basketball player has flaws. But Kobe stans like you think he is flawless. He is FAR from flawless. You're the reason I rarely go towards the NBA forum.

Now STFU and sit YOUR ass down.

[plowking]

kobe bryant is a punk ass pretender wannabe. he lied to his wife, lied to the world and has now lied to basketball fans.... stupid thing is most people belief this guy!!!

he is a cheater, a lier and he has fooled pppl into thinkin hes the best baller of alltime...... iditits!

Really? You can't even spell 3 letter abbreviations correctly?

[Rose]

Really? You can't even spell 3 letter abbreviations correctly?
Misspelling "idiots" was funnier

[Desperado]

What did he lie to the basketball world about?

Were to start? I'm not gonna get into much detail but I'll give you a couple of things.

His whole first ''retirement'', gambling, betting on games, involved with the mob, wrote checks to a cocaine dealer,committed adultery, had illegitimate kids etc.

[Bring-Your-Js]

Really? You can't even spell 3 letter abbreviations correctly?

Ironic that dude with the handle 'The Next Jordan' calls somebody a punk ass pretender wannabe.

[For_Three]

Jordan had 3 years of college. Maybe if Kobe wouldve went to school he wouldve had better numbers...


Hmm, then he would have less Ships, way less points, and less money.

Fail

[praneel]

He did have the best rookie performance in the playoffs though against the Jazz. What other rookie could have airballed those 3's so eloquently? What other rookie had such a huge ego to try and make those shots? Only the GOAT KB 24, plz remeber that:rockon:

That take huge guts to want to take those shots. You want Shaq taking those 3s? Where was Eddie Jones? Where was Van Exel? Nowhere to be found in the most crucial moments of the game. I love both of those guys, but that is what separates Kobe from "good" NBA players.

Those failures are what helped make Kobe Bryant into the assassin he is today on that court. No fear of failure.

[The Next Jordan]

Really? You can't even spell 3 letter abbreviations correctly?

*****, i dont need to spell. i'll pay someone to do it for me so i dont look like a fool on twitta like that big ass dwite howard

[Kobe 4 The Win]

This is pathetic. You have nothing but to go back in your time machine to a time when Kobe wasn't creeping up on the GOAT. He was a f**king high school kid. Jordan couldn't even make varsity at some small country-a** high school right away. Kobe was in the NBA. Who wins that comparison? I'll repeat that Jerry West said it was clear after his first 10 minute work out that Kobe was better than anybody they had. However they brrought him along slowly because of his age.

Also, Kobe didn't have the luxury of playing for a weak, worthless team that was desperate for anyone with talent to come in and be the savior. Kobe played for the great and prestigious Los Angeles Lakers. We all see what happened so have fun denying reality and pretending it's 1996. B*tches.

[Maniak]

http://i56.tinypic.com/2dtd5za.jpg

My paint job fails, but I hope you get the point

[plowking]

****, i dont need to spell. i'll pay someone to do it for me so i dont look like a fool on twitta like that big ass dwite howard

Still no name from you so we can look up your basketball credentials.

Go sit down and continue playing NBA Jam.

[Rose]

someone should take the picture of Jordan's six rings on his hand and caption it with U Mad?

[Desperado]

Don't blame Jordan because he was better his ROOKIE year. And automatically came in as the alpha dog. He's the greatest for a reason. so you STFU, and talk about Kobe's ROOKIE year. Excuses are just that EXCUSES.


What was MJ doing at 18?

That's right he was a role player at UNC and was forced to make sandwiches for Sam Perkins. :oldlol:

Kobe at 18 was already in the NBA and on his way to becoming the youngest player to ever be selected to an All-Star game and a Slam Dunk champion.

[plowking]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TheEndOfItAll/My%20GIFs%202/lol/OHDAMNLOL.gif

OWNED.

Was this on chatroulette?

What exactly caused this reaction. :oldlol:

[juju151111]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TheEndOfItAll/My%20GIFs%202/lol/OHDAMNLOL.gif

OWNED.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TheEndOfItAll/My%20GIFs%202/lol/OHDAMNLOL.gif

[Rose]

What was MJ doing at 18?

That's right he was a role player at UNC and was forced to make sandwiches for Sam Perkins. :oldlol:

Kobe at 18 was already in the NBA and on his way to becoming the youngest player to ever be selected to an All-Star game.
and let's not forget Kobe was well on his way to riding Shaq to his first ring. and arguably the next two.

[whatever666]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Maniak]

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[Aye Dee]

Were to start? I'm not gonna get into much detail but I'll give you a couple of things.

His whole first ''retirement'', gambling, betting on games, involved with the mob, wrote checks to a cocaine dealer,committed adultery, had illegitimate kids etc.


And where did you get this info from? sounds like rumors...and didnt Kobe commit adultery and then snitch on Shaq?

[juju151111]

What was MJ doing at 18?

That's right he was a role player at UNC and was forced to make sandwiches for Sam Perkins. :oldlol:

Kobe at 18 was already in the NBA and on his way to becoming the youngest player to ever be selected to an All-Star game and a Slam Dunk champion.
yea, but what about his rookie season. You know the topic at hand. Mj rookie season 28ppg.:lol troll doesn't know wat to do, but deflect.

[The Next Jordan]

Still no name from you so we can look up your basketball credentials.

Go sit down and continue playing NBA Jam.

fina *****, here

Kentavious Caldwell

search away

[whatever666]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TheEndOfItAll/My%20GIFs%202/lol/OHDAMNLOL.gif
OWNED


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http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TheEndOfItAll/My%20GIFs%202/lol/OHDAMNLOL.gif

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[Maniak]

fina *****, here

Kentavious Caldwell

search away
Oh nice you went to Brownville High?

[Desperado]

You can toke all you want. You can toke until your balls drop. Its still my thread, and my topic. You're just mad Kobe was never perfect. BUT GUESS WHAT. Jordan is never perfect. He has a world famous quote about bricking shots. I'll accept every basketball player has flaws. But Kobe stans like you think he is flawless. He is FAR from flawless. You're the reason I rarely go towards the NBA forum.

Now STFU and sit YOUR ass down.


:roll:


http://i45.tinypic.com/2rrxpps.jpg

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[The Next Jordan]

Oh nice you went to Brownville High?

greenville

[praneel]

... And so it begins.

and so it continues...

I get that it is fun to argue, but this whole Kobe vs MJ thing has been beat to death. And it gets out of control way too easily.

Lets try and keep this civilized at least.

Kobe will never have the impact MJ had on basketball. and it has nothing to do with basketball. MJ was a global icon when there were only a handful of people who were recognizable arond the world.

Got nothing to do with his flaws, nothing to do with his game.

MJ was like a god on the court (Larry Bird even said it), never will you hear someone of that caliber in the NBA ever say that about Kobe. And it has nothing to do about basketball.

The only way we could ever really know bball wise, if both players went at in the final, in their primes. So someone get working on a time machine that works.

[chips93]

im not sure which is worse kobe haters (posters who criticise his rookie year), or kobe fanboys (thhe kind that hate on pau gasol to make kobe seems better)

[Aye Dee]

Hmm, then he would have less Ships, way less points, and less money.

Fail


Even if he went to college for one year he would still have almost the same amount of points with his weak ass 7.6 points a game his rookie year. He also wouldve been a higher pick in the draft so he wouldnt had made less money, he wouldve made more. I dont think he wouldve had the first 3 rings without Shaq tho...

[Kobe 4 The Win]

I'd dunk on you and you'd be Kent-envious of my skills. I'm the white Larry Bird.

[Maniak]

:roll:


http://i45.tinypic.com/2rrxpps.jpg

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You have nothing to counteract anything me or juju have said. This thread is not about his first season where he didnt warm the bench.

Let me say Kobe did well, but he WAS a second option.

Kobe had a bad rookie season, Jordan had a good one.

You had a terribly fail post, and I destroyed you for it.

Now you're stuck in a corner with the laughing GIF being thrown at you and all you have left is your uMad pics.

Maniak 1
Desperado 0

[Desperado]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/WOX_69/KobeYouMad.jpg

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http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2010/5/18/634097590524340935-UMAD.jpg

[plowking]

fina *****, here

Kentavious Caldwell

search away

What if you don't make it kid (if you are who you say you are)?

Get your attitude in check. You act like a little bitch.

[praneel]

yea, but what about his rookie season. You know the topic at hand. Mj rookie season 28ppg.:lol troll doesn't know wat to do, but deflect.

As the #1 option, even the #2 option

[The Next Jordan]

Maniak 1
Desperado 0

look at u. arguing about kobe and jordan. its not even a debate. kobe is vince carter with a brain. michael jordan is vince carter with a brain, 4 balls and a 16 inch shaft.

[Yung D-Will]

http://hoopsplayground.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/kobe-in-mj-jersey.jpg

[The Next Jordan]

What if you don't make it kid (if you are who you say you are)?

Get your attitude in check. You act like a little bitch.

why the name calling? i have friend that would knock thwe black right of your face. you jealous and you hating.

i'm just notafyin the basketball world of myself. watch this space

[Maniak]

http://i53.tinypic.com/rjqyo8.jpg

[Yung D-Will]

why the name calling? i have friend that would knock thwe black right of your face. you jealous and you hating.

i'm just notafyin the basketball world of myself. watch this space


I'd leave you on zero.


Claim

[The Next Jordan]

http://i53.tinypic.com/rjqyo8.jpg

couldnt have said it better!
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[The Next Jordan]

I'd leave you on zero.


Claim

im finished. im gonna get some turkey breast lunch yeOWWWWWWWWW

[plowking]

why the name calling? i have friend that would knock thwe black right of your face. you jealous and you hating.

i'm just notafyin the basketball world of myself. watch this space
:oldlol:

You're 17 and threatening me? That's my point right there.

And no, you don't have those type of friends. :oldlol:

[For_Three]

I have no idea where it's from, I just know that it is damn funny and a great gif.


Aw damn I totally forgot where it was from. They did show it on ESPN awhile back. Nice find man!

[Desperado]

Kobe had a bad rookie season, Jordan had a good one.


Difference is Kobe as a rookie was 18 years old and already in the NBA, won a Slam Dunk championship and became the youngest player to ever be selected to an All-Star game.

Jordan at 18 wasn't doing shyt but getting hazed at UNC. :lol


It's much better to compare numbers as a first full season starter than numbers to a rookie coming out of high school playing limited minutes in a structured offense compared to a player that was given a free reign the moment he came to the NBA.

Even more embarrassing Kobe at 18 years old as a rookie dropped 33 on Jordan and was dunking on is ass, on MJ's home court!

[Maniak]

Slam Dunk championship

What a winner. :roll:

Of all the things...this is just getting desperate.

[For_Three]

look at u. arguing about kobe and jordan. its not even a debate. kobe is vince carter with a brain. michael jordan is vince carter with a brain, 4 balls and a 16 inch shaft.


Interesting that you know that. It has clearly been in your mouth multiple times.

[Yung D-Will]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEmS8ZQIhTA

[Aye Dee]

Difference is Kobe as a rookie was 18 years old and already in the NBA, won a Slam Dunk championship and became the youngest player to ever be selected to an All-Star game.

Jordan at 18 wasn't doing shyt but getting hazed at UNC. :lol


It's much better to compare numbers as a first full season starter than numbers to a rookie coming out of high school playing limited minutes in a structured offense compared to a player that was given a free reign the moment he came to the NBA.

Even more embarrassing Kobe at 18 years old as a rookie dropped 33 on Jordan and was dunking on is ass, on MJ's home court!



Kobe made the all star team in his second year and Kobe had most of his 33 in the 4th quarter of a blowout when Jordan wasnt even in the game!

[NbaFan432]

How many times did he lead in rebounding, scoring, blocks, etc. Also keep in mind that Kareem led the league in rebounding just once. The league leaders today, at best average 13+ rpg or just scraping 14 boards per game. I see no reason why Wes Unseld, Elvin hayes and Dave Cowens were much better rebounders than guys like Howard, O'Neal and Garnett like the raw numbers suggest. To me, the logical explanation is that the rebounding numbers were inflated a bit by the faster pace.

[beermonsteroo]

Kobe homers got owned once again :roll:

[Desperado]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEmS8ZQIhTA

Damn got schooled by another rookie!

How do you get your ankles broken by a rookie then get scored on like that but still get selected to the defensive first team?

[Kellogs4toniee]

Really? how old are people who continuously argue this stuff? So what he started out at sub par superstar status, that just shows how hard he's worked.. I don't know who's more pathetic, Jordan FBs or Kobe FBs

The answer to that is impossible to answer, it's like the chicken and egg question, who started trolling first, the chicken or the egg?

However in this specific case, it's Kobe FB's. The reason this thread was started was because a thread about Jordan, only made to reflect upon his great rookie season, was immediately hijacked by Kobe FB's. Thus, if that didn't happen, this thread wouldn't have happened.

[Yung D-Will]

Damn got schooled by another rookie!

How do you get your ankles broken by a rookie then get scored on like that but still get selected to the defensive first team?


Actually that video was just to show how A.I as a rookie > Kobe as a rookie

But ok.


One of the most monumental crossovers in history on the greatest of all time.

23/8/4

[NbaFan432]

I am far from a Kobe Stan, quite the opposite in fact, but this thread is dumb. How can you make fun of a guy for having less than stellar stats when he was coming off the bench (behind Eddie Jones) and only playing 15 mpg???
Never mind the fact that he was only 17 years old, and was still developing. Jordan had 4 years of college, no? Not really fair to compare their rookie seasons against each other.

I'm not trying to say Kobe was as good as Jordan, but even a Kobe hater like my self can not in good conscience deny his greatness.
..

[jjayfive]

jordan was cut from his high school basketball team..

so kobe>>>jordan...:rolleyes:

[Lakerlove420]

back'2'back WORLD CHAMPION & back'2'back FINALS MVP
will bring hate for sure. what else is new.
rookie season snookie season :blah

oh yeah . . everybody is mad Kobe isn't a part of your town:lol
of course you will deny deny deny. but oh yes sir.
it is a true fact.

bring your hate upon hate bros . .




p.s. - hi mom

[Desperado]

Actually that video was just to show how A.I as a rookie > Kobe as a rookie

But ok.


One of the most monumental crossovers in history on the greatest of all time.

23/8/4

Agreed back then as a rookie I thought he had a lot of potential and knew he was better than Kobe. (Rookie of the Year) but they were both drafted the same year in 1996 and nobody ever imagined what we know today. And what we know now now today in 2010 is that is Kobe is/was/will always better than A.I. ever will.

Also I didn't see AI crossing over Kareem in that video, what are you talking about? :confusedshrug:

[griffmoney2084]

so jordan was getting cut from highschool teams

while kobe was being scouted by nba legends


and jordan was playing second fiddle to james worthy in college

while kobe was starting for the western confrence allstars


and jordan was getting shat out of the playoffs with no jumpshot or range beyond 12 feet

while kobe was in the western confrence finals taking over for the biggest come back in nba history on his way to a 1st teams and nba championship


and jordan was in the dunk contest as his only highlight

while kobe was finishing up his 1st three peat with averages of 25/5/5 combined over those 3 years


and jordan was playing baseball with only 3 finals

while kobe was finishing up on ring #5 in 7 finals



yep

kobe fans got owned in this one :roll:

[Yung D-Will]

Agreed back then as a rookie I thought he had a lot of potential and knew he was better than Kobe. (Rookie of the Year) but they were both drafted the same year in 1996 and nobody ever imagined what we know today. And what we know now now today in 2010 is that is Kobe is/was/will always better than A.I. ever will.

Also I didn't see AI crossing over Kareem in that video, what are you talking about? :confusedshrug:
Kareem isn't even the G.O.A.T Center.

IMO.

[griffmoney2084]

Kareem isn't even the G.O.A.T Center.

IMO.

depends on what you go for


all around stats, accomplishments, rings, mvps = kareem

just rings = russell

just stats = wilt

modern day dominance = shaq

modern day skill = hakeem



i would go with kareem because he has allot of everything and faced multiple generations of bigs and schooled all of them

[Bring-Your-Js]

Mike and Kobe would get a huge laugh out of this.

[Kobe 4 The Win]

so jordan was getting cut from highschool teams

while kobe was being scouted by nba legends


and jordan was playing second fiddle to james worthy in college

while kobe was starting for the western confrence allstars


and jordan was getting shat out of the playoffs with no jumpshot or range beyond 12 feet

while kobe was in the western confrence finals taking over for the biggest come back in nba history on his way to a 1st teams and nba championship


and jordan was in the dunk contest as his only highlight

while kobe was finishing up his 1st three peat with averages of 25/5/5 combined over those 3 years


and jordan was playing baseball with only 3 finals

while kobe was finishing up on ring #5 in 7 finals



yep

kobe fans got owned in this one :roll:

Oh snap!

Not even Buck Nasty could hate on that post

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/IpreferKeaton/misc/BuckNasty.jpg

[The Next Jordan]

Mike and Kobe would get a huge laugh out of this.

not kob, he would be cryin, fumin' all gassed up. guy may even jump off the top of dj menga tryin to commit suicide!

[Maniak]

So Jordan got 6 rings.

While Kobe got carried to most of his 5.

So Jordan is the GOAT

And Kobe isnt

So Jordan has a more polished all around game

Kobe can score.

[Disaprine]

and another troll thread is born. :lol

[ashlar]

This is getting quite pathetic. :facepalm

[The Next Jordan]

So Jordan got 6 rings.

While Kobe got carried to most of his 5.

So Jordan is the GOAT

And Kobe isnt

So Jordan has a more polished all around game

Kobe can score.

good one. i can feel that bo

[Desperado]

So Jordan got 6 rings.

While Kobe got carried to most of his 5.

So Jordan is the GOAT

And Kobe isnt

So Jordan has a more polished all around game

Kobe can score.

Nope Jordan got carried to all of his rings and has little impact on the W-L column and had 5 losing season (below .500)

Jordan is not the GOAT but maybe in the top 5.

[Maniak]

Nope Jordan got carried to all of his rings and has little impact on the W-L column and had 5 losing season (below .500)

Jordan is not the GOAT but maybe in the top 5.
You're just sad. :roll:

[The Next Jordan]

You're just sad. :roll:

your a good dude. i'll keep you in mind for some free tickets when i get to the L

[Kobe 4 The Win]

So Jordan got 6 rings. True

While Kobe got carried to most of his 5. False

So Jordan is the GOAT Opinion

And Kobe isnt Opinion

So Jordan has a more polished all around game Opinion

Kobe can score.True

[Desperado]

You're just sad. :roll:

You're just a pathetic Jordan stan that can't handle facts.

Jordan led five teams to losing records.

Jordan joined a losing team in 1984. His first year, they remained a losing team. The next year, they were a losing team. The third year, they posted their 3rd consecutive losing season. During Jordan's first three years, he was not able to make the Bulls into a contender. He couldn't even get them above .500. This man has a legendary "will to win", but can't win? Then, the Bulls add Horace Grant and Scottie Pippen, the next year, and the Bulls put up a winning record and advance another round of the playoffs. The Bulls keep adding players and they keep winning more and more until they win 3 titles. Jordan retires, and the Bulls only slip 2 games. He comes back the next year, and they do WORSE in the playoffs than they did the year before him. After the Bulls add Rodman and win 3 more titles, they disband the team. Two years later, Jordan joins a losing Wizards team. Under Jordan, they remain a losing team both years and fail to make the playoffs each year.

Do you see the trend? Jordan joins teams and they don't turn into contenders. They don't even get above .500, even during his second year there. When he leaves, they stay the same. If they are a good team, they continue winning games and if they are a losing team with Jordan, they continue losing games. Jordan doesn't "will" teams to a new level. His impact to the win column is minimal. How, then, can he be the most valuable player ever? I pointed out that over and over in his career that his teams don't go to a new level because of him. If you can't see this, then you are simply ignoring facts.

if Jordan made those around him better, why couldn't he do this with Larry Hughes, Jerry Stackhouse, and ESPECIALLY Kwame Brown (who Kobe carried to the playoff's). You should know the answer by now.

[Yung D-Will]

So Jordan got 6 rings. True

While Kobe got carried to most of his 5. False

So Jordan is the GOAT Opinion

And Kobe isnt Opinion

So Jordan has a more polished all around game Opinion

Kobe can score.True


1. True
2. True
3. Mostly true
4. True
5. True
6. True

[NoName22]

so jordan was getting cut from highschool teams

while kobe was being scouted by nba legends


and jordan was playing second fiddle to james worthy in college

while kobe was starting for the western confrence allstars


and jordan was getting shat out of the playoffs with no jumpshot or range beyond 12 feet

while kobe was in the western confrence finals taking over for the biggest come back in nba history on his way to a 1st teams and nba championship


and jordan was in the dunk contest as his only highlight

while kobe was finishing up his 1st three peat with averages of 25/5/5 combined over those 3 years


and jordan was playing baseball with only 3 finals

while kobe was finishing up on ring #5 in 7 finals



yep

kobe fans got owned in this one :roll:

:cheers: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Desperado]

Jordan has 5 losing seasons (below .500), Kobe has 1.

Thus far, Kobe has played for one team with a losing record, the 2005 Lakers... that was the year that Phil Jackson was retired from coaching.

So Kobe needs FOUR more sub-.500 seasons in order to TIE Michael Jordan... he needs FIVE more sub-.500 seasons to break Jordan's record. That will be tough to do!


If you take the number of championships and subtract the number of losing seasons, you get what we'll call the "winner index".

Jordan = 6 titles - 5 losing seasons = winner index of 1
Kobe = 5 titles - 1 losing season = winner index of 4

[Kobe 4 The Win]

Jordan has 5 losing seasons (below .500), Kobe has 1.

Thus far, Kobe has played for one team with a losing record, the 2005 Lakers... that was the year that Phil Jackson was retired from coaching.

So Kobe needs FOUR more sub-.500 seasons in order to TIE Michael Jordan... he needs FIVE more sub-.500 seasons to break Jordan's record. That will be tough to do!


If you take the number of championships and subtract the number of losing seasons, you get what we'll call the "winner index".

Jordan = 6 titles - 5 losing seasons = winner index of 1
Kobe = 5 titles - 1 losing season = winner index of 4

That's an advanced stat. You just proved that Kobe is better than Jordan. :oldlol:

Magic Johnson = 5 titles - 0 losing seasons = Winner index of 5 = Better than Jordan

[Yung D-Will]

Jordan has 5 losing seasons (below .500), Kobe has 1.

Thus far, Kobe has played for one team with a losing record, the 2005 Lakers... that was the year that Phil Jackson was retired from coaching.

So Kobe needs FOUR more sub-.500 seasons in order to TIE Michael Jordan... he needs FIVE more sub-.500 seasons to break Jordan's record. That will be tough to do!


If you take the number of championships and subtract the number of losing seasons, you get what we'll call the "winner index".

Jordan = 6 titles - 5 losing seasons = winner index of 1
Kobe = 5 titles - 1 losing season = winner index of 4

Duncan= 4 titles( As the best player) - 0 Losing seasons - 0 Seasons with less then 50 wins - 0 seasons without making the playoffs.

Kobe = 2 titles( Maybe 3 as the best player)- 1 losing season


sEE a difference?

[Kobe 4 The Win]

Duncan= 4 titles( As the best player) - 0 Losing seasons - 0 Seasons with less then 50 wins - 0 seasons without making the playoffs.

Kobe = 2 titles( Maybe 3 as the best player)- 1 losing season


sEE a difference?

That's ignorant. I don't understand this "carried to titles" "titles as the best player bulls**t" it doesn't work that way and you know it. And tell Jerry Sloan to close his mouth in you avatar, he looks like a retard.

[Batz]

8 pages... Are all the mods on a f*ck-it-all week or something?

That's ignorant. I don't understand this "carried to titles" "titles as the best player bulls**t" it doesn't work that way and you know it. And tell Jerry Sloan to close his mouth in you avatar, he looks like a retard.
Shit just got serious.

[The Next Jordan]

i'll tell yall something, TYREKE EVANS is better than jordan and jordan is better than vince and vince is better than roy and he is equal to kobe.

good night yall.

[Yung D-Will]

That's ignorant. I don't understand this "carried to titles" "titles as the best player bulls**t" it doesn't work that way and you know it. And tell Jerry Sloan to close his mouth in you avatar, he looks like a retard.

It works kind of simple.


Shaq = The best player for the titles and the best playoff performer for the championships

Kobe= Not the best player and not the best playoff performer the championships

[Desperado]

Larry Bird vs Michael Jordan

Playoffs: Bird = 6-0 in the playoffs against Jordan


Bird-3 titles-0 losing seasons = winning index of 3

Jordan 6 titles-5 losing seasons = winning index of 1


Celtics before Bird = 29-53, Next season with Bird= 61-21.

Celtics before Bird retired= 51-31, Celtics after Bird retires = 48-34

Bulls before Jordan 27-55, Next season with Jordan = 38-44

Bulls before Jordan retired = 57-25, Bulls after Jordan retired 55-27



Conclusion: Bird > Jordan

[Kobe 4 The Win]

Basketball is a team sport. This "title math" is only done by pathetic individuals that are desperately trying to come up with some phony way to diminish a certain player (usually Kobe). No legitimate person involved in basketball would think in those terms.

So Magic Johnson and Scottie Pippen were carried to their titles? Nonsense. No Magic/Pippen = No titles. So it is with Kobe. Nice try though.

[Desperado]

It works kind of simple.


Shaq = The best player for the titles and the best playoff performer for the championships

Kobe= Not the best player and not the best playoff performer the championships

Kobe was ''Magic'' to Shaq's ''Kareem''.

They were both equally responsible for the Lakers successes and both needed each other to win.

I don't see the problem.

Shaq without Kobe: 1 championship, 2 Finals, 4 conference Finals

Kobe without Shaq: 2 championships, 3 Finals, 3 conference Finals

They both have won without each other.

[Yung D-Will]

Kobe was ''Magic'' to Shaq's ''Kareem''.

They were both equally responsible for the Lakers successes and both needed each other to win.

I don't see the problem.

Shaq without Kobe: 1 championship, 2 Finals, 4 conference Finals

Kobe without Shaq: 2 championships, 3 Finals, 3 conference Finals

They both have won without each other.

Nope I think it's clear for the first two titles Shaq was much more important for those runs.


And no. More like Kobe was the Pippen for those first two title runs.

Only the third one could you maybe compare him to Magic-Kareem

[playtetris]

if you've watched both players i don't know how you could honestly say kobe is better than jordan. it really isn't close, regardless of career accomplishments.

[Lakerlove420]

if you've watched both players i don't know how you could honestly say kobe is better than jordan. it really isn't close, regardless of career accomplishments.

I agree with this for the most part

(I don't agree with the really isn't close part)

[Premeditated]

kobe bryant is a punk ass pretender wannabe. he lied to his wife, lied to the world and has now lied to basketball fans.... stupid thing is most people belief this guy!!!

he is a cheater, a lier and he has fooled pppl into thinkin hes the best baller of alltime...... iditits!
whats worse? lying to your wife(who looked like Deron Williams with a wig btw) and kids, having full responsibility for your father's death for being a cheap ungrateful gambling, cigar smoking drunk, responsibility for the murders of thousands of innocent black children in the projects fighting each other for his high price shoes or the things you accused Kobe of doing.
lets be honest, Mgay is the definition of a coon?

[StacksOnDeck]

This loser Yung D-Will is always on this forum. I was surprised to see he only posts 13 times a day.

[Desperado]

Nope I think it's clear for the first two titles Shaq was much more important for those runs.


And no. More like Kobe was the Pippen for those first two title runs.

Only the third one could you maybe compare him to Magic-Kareem

Kobe was the facilitator on that team and had dominating performances against the Kings and Spurs and countless clutch shots and clutch performances.


I mean he only averaged 1 less point than Shaq during the season and playoffs in 2001 and 2002. They were one of the greatest duo's in NBA history and Kobe deserves as much credit as SHaq for the 3-pat. Hell it wasn't until Kobe developed and became an elite player that the Lakers started winning championships. Even though before Kobe was a starter they had an all-star back court with Eddie Jones and Nick Van Exel. Shaq also played with prime Penny before Kobe but they didn't win a ring together.

Regardless Kobe and Shaq have both won without each other now and the whole thing is moot.

Kobe is regarded as a 5x champion, why should he have an * next to his 5 titles and only be considered a 2x champion? Please don't start this ''because of Finals MVPs'' or ''well he had Shaq'''


Magic had Kareem for his 5 rings, should we put an asterisk next to his 5 titles and say they aren't valid?

[Desperado]

whats worse? lying to your wife(who looked like Deron Williams with a wig btw) and kids, having full responsibility for your father's death for being a cheap ungrateful gambling, cigar smoking drunk, responsibility for the murders of thousands of innocent black children in the projects fighting each other for his high price shoes or the things you accused Kobe of doing.
lets be honest, Mgay is the definition of a coon?


Deron Williams with a wig?

Nah, she looked a lot like Prince actually. :oldlol:

[Premeditated]

lol @ a 17 year old girl starting a thread talking about Mgay is the greatest player just because her older brother said it. that fakkit Mgay was gambling away his wife's divorce money and children college money while having infidelity by sniffing coke of white women crack hole before you were even born little girl.

[DKLaker]

Yeah let's bring up the stats of a 18 year old rookie coming out of high school that was playing limited minutes on a team with proven all-stars Shaq, Eddie Jones and Nick Van Exel in a structured offense. Compared to Jordan who was given a free reign and a green light to chuck the moment he came to the NBA.

Let's look at Kobe's first full season as a STARTER:

22.5 ppg 6.3 rpg 4.9 apg 1.6 spg

NBA Champion

All-Star

All-Defensive 1st team

Not to mention numerous clutch performances that year.

:cheers: ^^^^^^


Maniac= Worst post of the year......complete failure post:

Kobe won his first title at the age of 21, 2nd at 22, 3rd at 23.
By Kobe's 6th season he already had 3 rings.

Jordan came into the league off an NCAA title at 21....didn't win a ring until he was 28......7th season in the league.

Jordan is the GOAT.....no dispute here but don't try to troll on Kobe like this.

[Big#50]

Yeah let's bring up the stats of a 18 year old rookie coming out of high school that was playing limited minutes on a team with proven all-stars Shaq, Eddie Jones and Nick Van Exel in a structured offense. Compared to Jordan who was given a free reign and a green light to chuck the moment he came to the NBA.

Let's look at Kobe's first full season as a STARTER:

22.5 ppg 6.3 rpg 4.9 apg 1.6 spg

NBA Champion

All-Star

All-Defensive 1st team

Not to mention numerous clutch performances that year.
Must be good to have a Prime/Peak Shaq.

[New York Knicks]

Kobe fans patting each other on the back. How cute.

[Poochymama]

Yeah let's bring up the stats of a 18 year old rookie coming out of high school that was playing limited minutes on a team with proven all-stars Shaq, Eddie Jones and Nick Van Exel in a structured offense. Compared to Jordan who was given a free reign and a green light to chuck the moment he came to the NBA.

Let's look at Kobe's first full season as a STARTER:

22.5 ppg 6.3 rpg 4.9 apg 1.6 spg

NBA Champion

All-Star

All-Defensive 1st team

Not to mention numerous clutch performances that year.

Lol, still not that impressive. The team accomplishments were because of Shaq, so that's irrelevant. Jordan's rookie season was light years better than this.

[Glide2keva]

Kobe turned me off to him as a player with his arrogance and cockiness which was unearned.

He had the potential in him to be good, but his arrogance was getting in his way. Granted he started to outplay Eddie jones and make him expendable, but let's not act like he wasn't getting in the game during garbage time in his rookie year. That's nothing to be ashamed of, it kade him work harder and get better.

Now he is "creeping up on Jordan" as someone said on here, but is carving out his own niche. Let him have that because comparing him to Jordan is beyond pointless because he falls way short of Jordan.

[N0Skillz]

Wow I'm going to give everybody a piece of advise..



http://austrianeconomists.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451eb0069e2011570ea5170970c-800wi

[Maniak]

Maniac= Worst post of the year......complete failure post:


You're retarded. I make this thread to point out his not so perfect season and how not everyone is a basketball king. Then Desperado got mad(like you) and strayed away from the topic all thread long, while getting laughed at constantly due to his inferior mind.

[killuminati187]

71 games played, 6 not played. His team won 56 games iirc.

Look at these BEAST STATS CARRYING HIS TEAM.

7.6ppg, 1.9 rpg, 1.3 apg, 0.7 spg, 0.3 bpg, 1.5 topg. 41.7 FG%, 37 FG%, 82 FG%, and 15.5mpg.

Look, Kobe stans, this is a message to you. There is nothing impressive about this season, although this might be a career high FG%. Kobe started out as a benchwarmer and Jordan carried his team. Kobe is 10th greatest of all time AT BEST.

Please stop trying to start stuff in a thread where Jordan gets praised. Just because Kobe was inferior to Jordan in yet another part of the game, doesn't mean you need to whine.


how convinient to forget kobe came into the league when he was 18 and had he not been with the lakers that season he could have started on any team with a coach that respected his game

when people say kobe waqs better than jordan they talk about kobe after the 2002 - 2003 season comparing kobe in his rookie year to jordan throughout his ENTIRE career is more unfair than comparing jordan with the wizards to kobe in 2003 smart ass

[triangleoffense]

lol I'm surprised Maniak is alive after Kobe man-handled the Celtics en route to getting that 5th. One more than how my ass tastes.

[Desperado]

You're retarded. I make this thread to point out his not so perfect season and how not everyone is a basketball king. Then Desperado got mad(like you) and strayed away from the topic all thread long, while getting laughed at constantly due to his inferior mind.

What more do you expect from an 18 year old rookie that was coming straight out of high school and playing limited minutes in a structured offense?

Also no I'm not mad, I never get mad on here. Basketball is just entertainment, not life. Also your the one that got laughed at for your pathetic anti-Kobe agenda even by one of the biggest Kobe haters on this site FCN for your nonsensical, assine crap.

In my opinion its just more reasonable to look at his numbers at the same age as Jordan and compare their numbers as a starter.

I strayed off topic on purpose to get you upset and it worked. :oldlol:

Really what's the point of staying on topic on a ridiculous, worthless thread?

[triangleoffense]

What more do you expect from an 18 year old rookie that was coming straight out of high school and playing limited minutes in a structured offense?

Also no I'm not mad, I never get mad on here. Basketball is just entertainment, not life. Also your the one that got laughed at for your pathetic anti-Kobe agenda even by one of the biggest Kobe haters on this site for your nonsensical, assine crap.

In my opinion its just more reasonable to look at his numbers at the same age as Jordan and compare their numbers as a starter.

I strayed off topic on purpose to get you upset and it worked. :oldlol:

Really what's the point of staying on topic on a ridiculous, worthless thread?
haha yea he obviously mad. This whole thread was made in a lolumad sort of fashion.

[StacksOnDeck]

Maniak is one of the worst posters on this site.

[Papaya Petee]

Nope I think it's clear for the first two titles Shaq was much more important for those runs.


And no. More like Kobe was the Pippen for those first two title runs.

Only the third one could you maybe compare him to Magic-Kareem
Lmao he's a troll don't bother.

[imdaman99]

So Anti Kobe trolls versus Kobe trolls, who would win? I say Kobe trolls because those guys can be relentless, eventually Maniak and New York Knicks and Necrophiliac and Bruce Blitz 10 other screen names on here will eventually get bored :lol

[imdaman99]

Kobe turned me off to him as a player with his arrogance and cockiness which was unearned.

He had the potential in him to be good, but his arrogance was getting in his way. Granted he started to outplay Eddie jones and make him expendable, but let's not act like he wasn't getting in the game during garbage time in his rookie year. That's nothing to be ashamed of, it kade him work harder and get better.

Now he is "creeping up on Jordan" as someone said on here, but is carving out his own niche. Let him have that because comparing him to Jordan is beyond pointless because he falls way short of Jordan.
Different Eras dude. His accolades will fall short to MJ's no doubts. But nobody can prove which one was the better player because neither was in their prime during the other's prime. Hell, one was a shell of himself once the other started stepping into his prime.

Stop shoving down the whole myth that MJ will always be better than Kobe, because there is absolute no way to prove it. For now MJ stands as GOAT in my eyes, but MY opinion has a chance of changing. Hell even Lebron could become GOAT someday as well. More like, no one can say one player is the greatest of all time because these guys did not play against each other in the same ERA.

[triangleoffense]

Stop shoving down the whole myth that MJ will always be better than Kobe, because there is absolute no way to prove it.

this is how people know your retarded. And lols @ the paki being upset. It's Ramadan bra your suppose to do good deeds.

[imdaman99]

this is how people know your retarded. And lols @ the paki being upset. It's Ramadan bra your suppose to do good deeds.
At least get your grammar right bro. It's you're.

But I will not namecall you back and stoop to your level. Have a nice day.

[imdaman99]

Wow, the anti Islamic sentiments are strong on this board :lol

It's ok, I won't let it bother me guys. There are people in my home country getting victimized by these suicide bombers. I have more important things to get upset about smh

[imdaman99]

LOL welcome to the world of ignore. I can't believe I have to block a 'fellow' Knicks fan because he is racist and has to stoop to subhuman insults. Whatever man, I'm neither Punjabi nor a terrorist. I am actually against both them. You don't have to reply with another petty insult, I won't see it. Take care yo.

[New York Knicks]

LOL welcome to the world of ignore. I can't believe I have to block a 'fellow' Knicks fan because he is racist and has to stoop to subhuman insults. Whatever man, I'm neither Punjabi nor a terrorist. I am actually against both them. You don't have to reply with another petty insult, I won't see it. Take care yo.
BS you're not a Knicks fan. You spend all your time in Kobe threads. You've never even been to the Knicks board. So let's stop the lies k?

[StacksOnDeck]

BS you're not a Knicks fan. You spend all your time in Kobe threads. You've never even been to the Knicks board. So let's stop the lies k?


Ohhh the irony. :roll:

[Bring-Your-Js]

Ohhh the irony. :roll:

:oldlol:

[NbaFan432]

Mike and Kobe would get a huge laugh out of this.
lol, how true

[New York Knicks]

Ohhh the irony. :roll:
You spend all your time in Kobe threads. So if I'm in every one of them, of course you'd assume I only post in Kobe threads.

[Bring-Your-Js]

lol, how true


Never understood the shitbag mentality of proping one and tearing down another. That isn't a basketball fan. It's also not even just regarding Jordan and Kobe.. People get stupid emotional arguing Kareem, Wilt, Russell, et al to the point of just flat out saying dude is garbage. It's pretty sad.

[BigBalla44]

LOL at these Kobe lovers getting trolled. You pieces of sh*t do these types of threads everyday and when something like this comes up, you guys get emotional. Well considering you trolls act as if Kobe's your soulmate, it doesnt surprise me.

Keep wasting your time bitching about it, losers. You guys are jokes.

[deeznut]

This is so stupid. don't u guys got nothing better to do then compare kobe to MJ ? who give a damn man u guys talking about them like u know them in real life. :facepalm :facepalm and i thought the rookie years wasn't that bad.

[Jacks3]

http://19.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ks8ydwUsIS1qzs8seo1_500.gif

[Maniak]

:facepalm:


Maniak is one of the worst posters on this site.


And you're gay.

Seriously, this thread is so sad. How easy is it to get dumbasses like Desperado mad? Too easy.

[SinJackal]

I never claimed to be the OP, I just toke control of the thread and put things into perspective. This is my thread now and its about numbers as as a starter.


Now STFU and sit your ass down!


btw

http://i28.tinypic.com/6h0p78.jpg

:facepalm You realize Jordan has more of everything in that picture?

You and the other Kobe trolls need to go back to arguing about Kobe in reference to players he clearly does not measure up to.

btw

http://www.pingceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/kobe-bryant-and-shaquille-oneal.jpg



This is pathetic. You have nothing but to go back in your time machine to a time when Kobe wasn't creeping up on the GOAT. He was a f**king high school kid. Jordan couldn't even make varsity at some small country-a** high school right away. Kobe was in the NBA. Who wins that comparison? I'll repeat that Jerry West said it was clear after his first 10 minute work out that Kobe was better than anybody they had. However they brrought him along slowly because of his age.

Also, Kobe didn't have the luxury of playing for a weak, worthless team that was desperate for anyone with talent to come in and be the savior. Kobe played for the great and prestigious Los Angeles Lakers. We all see what happened so have fun denying reality and pretending it's 1996. B*tches.

:lol Why would Jordan be trying to make a high school squad after and age where he would've graduated?

Stop talking about Jordan when he's 12-13 and acting like it's the same as almost 18.

fyi, Jordan was better at the ages of 21-32 (excluding the retirement years). Kobe has almost no shot of being as good as, or better than Jordan at ANY age when they were both playing in the NBA. But hey, has has a few seasons left to try and match up with one of Jordan's years still. Too bad his last 3 seasons were worse than Jordan's last season as a Bull, arguably his worst season as a Bull. >_>

So you can make all the speculative statements about Jordan in college and high school all you'd like. When they both stepped on the court, it's been clear who was better, every single year age-wise that they were in the NBA.



http://i53.tinypic.com/rjqyo8.jpg

:lol

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3263/2448558472_d00dc7d48c.jpg

[New York Knicks]

Suggestion: Move all the Kobe threads to the Laker boards. Problem solved. All the Kobe fans can argue in there and the true haters can follow them while the rest of us can post about basketball.

[Rose]

http://www.pingceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/kobe-bryant-and-shaquille-oneal.jpg
Carrying Kobe like he carried him for three rings.

[Jacks3]

[

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3263/2448558472_d00dc7d48c.jpg
:lol

[triangleoffense]

lol @ all the anti-kobe trolls

and then lol again @ all the kobe trolls responding to the anti-kobe trolls.

Btw MJ is clearly better than Kobe. That's not even a discussion.

[BlueCrayon]

:wtf: you trying to rate kobe on his rookie season?

[Jacks3]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs200.snc4/38351_958333934051_10053624_54058798_6368173_n.jpg
lol @ all the pathetic haters.

[TryToBeUnbias]

Same shit, Different day. :sleeping

[chazzy]

Suggestion: Move all the Kobe threads to the Laker boards. Problem solved. All the Kobe fans can argue in there and the true haters can follow them while the rest of us can post about basketball.

What will you post about then? :oldlol:

[Desperado]

http://www.pingceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/kobe-bryant-and-shaquille-oneal.jpg
Carrying Kobe like he carried him for three rings.

Is that supposed to mean anything?


http://www.nba.com/media/040715_shaq_hakeem.jpg

Those 3 rings belong as much to Kobe as they belong to Shaq.

[Maniak]

Same shit, Different day. :sleeping
:bowdown: Clever. I'll remember that one for later. Do you mind? (no sarcasm, thats actually pretty clever)

Also, Im gonna rep Sin for being someone who fights the trolls. Anyone who does deserves total respect.

[Yung D-Will]

Is that supposed to mean anything?


http://www.nba.com/media/040715_shaq_hakeem.jpg

Those 3 rings belong as much to Kobe as they belong to Shaq.
Bullshit.

[Rose]

Is that supposed to mean anything?


http://www.nba.com/media/040715_shaq_hakeem.jpg

Those 3 rings belong as much to Kobe as they belong to Shaq.
Yep I got what I wanted. your attention. It kind of doesn't matter if you post that stupid U Mad image if...Jordan has more rings, MVPs, Finals MVPs, and pretty much anything and everything else.

[Yung D-Will]

Yep I got what I wanted. your attention. It kind of doesn't matter if you post that stupid U Mad image if...Jordan has more rings, MVPs, Finals MVPs, and pretty much anything and everything else.
Not to mention he's a better player

[deeznut]

MJ already retired why we still talking about him like he still play in the game? we all need to talk about players that still play the game.

[rawimpact]

You guys are getting played by his "Experiment". That was his whole purpose on this thread, he doesn't care about the topic itself, rather the way you respond. Check the OTC for his thread "i conducted an experiment today" or something along those lines

[KingLeBronJames]

im with you bo!

it goes like this:

1.a. Jordan
1.b. me

2. jordan imposters

3. kobe 'i need shaq or gasol to be a success' bryant
LOL and Jordan needed Pippen, Rodman and Grant to succeed. What's your point?

[Desperado]

Yep I got what I wanted. your attention. It kind of doesn't matter if you post that stupid U Mad image if...Jordan has more rings, MVPs, Finals MVPs, and pretty much anything and everything else.


http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/41/65217567fw9.png

http://i53.tinypic.com/2ytth20.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRewC5ZJ-XA


Now go play with your Space Jam doll.....

[Jacks3]

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/41/65217567fw9.png

http://i53.tinypic.com/2ytth20.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRewC5ZJ-XA
:roll:


Now go play with your Space Jam doll.....
:roll:

[DetroitPistonFan]

And where did you get this info from? sounds like rumors...and didnt Kobe commit adultery and then snitch on Shaq?
Jordan did commit adultery. That's why his wife divorced him.

[Premeditated]

Jordan did commit adultery. That's why his wife divorced him.
lol@ Mgay's wife divorcing him after catching him doing adultry, on top of that paying the Shwarzenegger jaw looking beast 70% of his income in the settlement, while Kobe's adultry was an International headline and all he had to do was apologize and get his wife a $2 million dollar ring(which is $100 to him) to keep her. Kobe got Queen Vanessa on lock but Mgay couldn't even control his b1tch.

[LALakerFan4Life]

lol@ Mgay's wife divorcing him after catching him doing adultry, on top of that paying the Shwarzenegger jaw looking beast 70% of his income in the settlement, while Kobe's adultry was an International headline and all he had to do was apologize and get his wife a $2 million dollar ring(which is $100 to him) to keep her. Kobe got Queen Vanessa on lock but Mgay couldn't even control his b1tch.
:facepalm

[KingLeBronJames]

LeBron's rookie season > MJ's rookie season and Kobe's rookie season

[Desperado]

lol@ Mgay's wife divorcing him after catching him doing adultry, on top of that paying the Shwarzenegger jaw looking beast 70% of his income in the settlement, while Kobe's adultry was an International headline and all he had to do was apologize and get his wife a $2 million dollar ring(which is $100 to him) to keep her. Kobe got Queen Vanessa on lock but Mgay couldn't even control his b1tch.


Who's better at cheating on their wife Kobe or Jordan?

MJ - Got caught in legal battle and had a illegitimate kid, not too mention he had too give 50% of his earnings to his ex wife!

Kobe- Caught a case, settled out of court and bought his wife a $4 million dollar ring.

My pick goes to Kobe. MJ had to give up HALF of his money! His wife didn't earn it he did!....he had to pay a lot more then Kobe had too. :lol

[DetroitPistonFan]

Who's better at cheating on their wife Kobe or Jordan?

MJ - Got caught in legal battle and had a illegitimate kid, not too mention he had too give 50% of his earnings to his ex wife!

Kobe- Caught a case, settled out of court and bought his wife a $4 million dollar ring.

My pick goes to Kobe. MJ had to give up HALF of his money! His wife didn't earn it he did!....he had to pay a lot more then Kobe had too. :lol
Most pro athletes commit adultery. LeBron payed his baby mama to shut up about the break up. He don't want his business to be out there.

[Premeditated]

Who's better at cheating on their wife Kobe or Jordan?

MJ - Got caught in legal battle and had a illegitimate kid, not too mention he had too give 50% of his earnings to his ex wife!

Kobe- Caught a case, settled out of court and bought his wife a $4 million dollar ring.

My pick goes to Kobe. MJ had to give up HALF of his money! His wife didn't earn it he did!....he had to pay a lot more then Kobe had too. :lol
real talk.and i bet bet you Kobe got more girls before he was married and Cheese Eyes did. what other celebrity chicks was he fukkin with besides Prince?This is the guy you fatherless heathens all look up to?

Beyonce, Trina and Brandy were all victims of the Black Mamba.

[Premeditated]

LeBron's rookie season > MJ's rookie season and Kobe's rookie season
Kobe at 26=3 rings
Lebron at 26=0 finals win:oldlol:
Mgay at 26=0 finals appearances:roll:

[RazorBaLade]

wtf he was 17. frankly id only expect this from a lebron fan, greatly disappointed

[BigBalla44]

Kobe at 26=3 rings
Lebron at 26=0 finals win:oldlol:
Mgay at 26=0 finals appearances:roll:

Sorry you caught feelings on this thread bro. Excuse me while I laugh at your whole existence on ISH
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[eliteballer]

Rookie Jordan Age 22:

28.2 PPG, 6.5 rpg, 5.9 apg

In the run and gun 80's

Kobe age 22:

28.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 5.0 apg

After pulling back to accomodate Shaq

[BigBalla44]

Rookie Jordan Age 22:

28.2 PPG, 6.5 rpg, 5.9 apg

In the run and gun 80's

Kobe age 22:

28.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 5.0 apg

After pulling back to accomodate Shaq

Cool stats, bro

[Premeditated]

Sorry you caught feelings on this thread bro. Excuse me while I laugh at your whole existence on ISH
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
catching feelings?:pimp:

you can use the :roll: smiley all you want but you're :mad: right now that i shut the whole thread down with that post.

[BigBalla44]

catching feelings?:pimp:

you can use the :roll: smiley all you want but you're :mad: right now that i shut the whole thread down with that post.

:roll:

[Premeditated]

:roll:
oh yeah...that boy mad.

[BigBalla44]

oh yeah...that boy mad.

:roll:

[Heilige]

Rookie Jordan Age 22:

28.2 PPG, 6.5 rpg, 5.9 apg

In the run and gun 80's

Kobe age 22:

28.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 5.0 apg

After pulling back to accomodate Shaq


What do you think Kobe's stats would be if Shaq wasn't on the team?

EDIT : How come you don't post that much here?

[-23-]

It's pretty unfair to compare a rookie kobe who wasn't even a starter to Jordan who was pegged as a franchise player since day 1.

[LALakerFan4Life]

Kobe at 26=3 rings
Lebron at 26=0 finals win:oldlol:
Mgay at 26=0 finals appearances:roll:
Please stop posting.

[Premeditated]

Please stop posting.
is it or is it not true Kobe had more rings than Lebron and MJ had finals wins and appearances combined?

[LALakerFan4Life]

is it or is it not true Kobe had more rings than Lebron and MJ had finals wins and appearances combined?
Yes, that true but Kobe tasted early success having a dominate superstar in Shaquille O'Neal. Kobe was dominate player himself when he won those first 3 NBA Championships. 1 A 1 B. Kobe and Shaq. Kobe contributed, taking over 4th quarters and played great in the Playoffs but didn't do that well in the '00 and '02 NBA Finals. Shaq did. Shaq had better numbers. Kobe did his thing but have to thank Shaq for those 3 NBA Championships. Shouldn't diss Kobe's mentor, Michael Jordan.

[Premeditated]

Yes, that true
thanks for answering the question. i didn't really read the rest because i didn't ask how he got them.

[BigBalla44]

thanks for answering the question. i didn't really read the rest because i didn't ask how he got them.
:roll:

[DKLaker]

http://i28.tinypic.com/6h0p78.jpg


Hey Maniac......you can't do nothing to change THIS......and there are more coming.......your life will continue to be miserable while we will keep laughing at you as you drown in your Haterade......lol :banana: :banana: :banana:

[StacksOnDeck]

Kobe at 26=3 rings
Lebron at 26=0 finals win:oldlol:
Mgay at 26=0 finals appearances:roll:

How can anyone hate on these facts? He didn't lie so why dismiss? :confusedshrug:

[griffmoney2084]

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa280/cashforcards/ewfwe.jpg

[LA_Showtime]

71 games played, 6 not played. His team won 56 games iirc.

Look at these BEAST STATS CARRYING HIS TEAM.

7.6ppg, 1.9 rpg, 1.3 apg, 0.7 spg, 0.3 bpg, 1.5 topg. 41.7 FG%, 37 FG%, 82 FG%, and 15.5mpg.

Look, Kobe stans, this is a message to you. There is nothing impressive about this season, although this might be a career high FG%. Kobe started out as a benchwarmer and Jordan carried his team. Kobe is 10th greatest of all time AT BEST.

Please stop trying to start stuff in a thread where Jordan gets praised. Just because Kobe was inferior to Jordan in yet another part of the game, doesn't mean you need to whine.

It's amazing how someone so stupid has so much rep. You, along with RG, are perfect examples of why green bars don't mean anything. Now do everyone a favor and go climb back in your hole, troll.

[Lakerlove420]

let me just say this one more time ..


back'2'back WORLD CHAMPION & back'2'back FINALS MVP
will bring hate for sure. what else is new.
rookie season snookie season :blah

oh yeah . . everybody is mad Kobe isn't a part of your town:lol
of course you will deny deny deny. but oh yes sir.
it is a true fact.

bring your hate upon hate bros . .




p.s. - hi mom

[gts]

71 games played, 6 not played. His team won 56 games iirc.

Look at these BEAST STATS CARRYING HIS TEAM.

7.6ppg, 1.9 rpg, 1.3 apg, 0.7 spg, 0.3 bpg, 1.5 topg. 41.7 FG%, 37 FG%, 82 FG%, and 15.5mpg.

Look, Kobe stans, this is a message to you. There is nothing impressive about this season, although this might be a career high FG%. Kobe started out as a benchwarmer and Jordan carried his team. Kobe is 10th greatest of all time AT BEST.

Please stop trying to start stuff in a thread where Jordan gets praised. Just because Kobe http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=4807947was inferior to Jordan in yet another part of the game, doesn't mean you need to whine.
Quoted for it's massive stupidity...

[PowerGlove]

It's amazing how someone so stupid has so much rep. You, along with RG, are perfect examples of why green bars don't mean anything. Now do everyone a favor and go climb back in your hole, troll.
:oldlol:

You and gts don't get it at all, but okay.

[Maniak]

It's amazing how someone so stupid has so much rep. You, along with RG, are perfect examples of why green bars don't mean anything. Now do everyone a favor and go climb back in your hole, troll.
Im not a troll, dumbass.

[BALLin01]

I can't believe I read through this whole thread:facepalm

[Brad Lesnar]

:oldlol: the thread starter is a idiot! Bow to to KOBE BRYANT!:bowdown:

[Jordan23GOAT]

Kobe at 26=3 rings
Lebron at 26=0 finals win:oldlol:
Mgay at 26=0 finals appearances:roll:
you idiot. You just dissed the GOAT. THE GOAT!! Also, last time i checked, the very next year and the next and the next he won the championship. Then he came back and won again and again and again. :no: :no: :no: I disagree with this post very much.

[Jordan23GOAT]

It's amazing how someone so stupid has so much rep. You, along with RG, are perfect examples of why green bars don't mean anything. Now do everyone a favor and go climb back in your hole, troll.
It's amazing that someone like you isn't hated by everyone in this thread yet.

[Jordan23GOAT]

I thought this thread was about rookie season??
:cheers:

[tpols]

jordan was playing high school basketball in NC when kobe was playing in the nba. nuff said:cheers:

[Jordan23GOAT]

jordan was playing high school basketball in NC when kobe was playing in the nba. nuff said:cheers:
:facepalm

[Round Mound]

71 games played, 6 not played. His team won 56 games iirc.

Look at these BEAST STATS CARRYING HIS TEAM.

7.6ppg, 1.9 rpg, 1.3 apg, 0.7 spg, 0.3 bpg, 1.5 topg. 41.7 FG%, 37 FG%, 82 FG%, and 15.5mpg.

Look, Kobe stans, this is a message to you. There is nothing impressive about this season, although this might be a career high FG%. Kobe started out as a benchwarmer and Jordan carried his team. Kobe is 10th greatest of all time AT BEST.

Please stop trying to start stuff in a thread where Jordan gets praised. Just because Kobe was inferior to Jordan in yet another part of the game, doesn't mean you need to whine.

Not even Top 10.

Barkley was more dominant and efficient and PER, EFF and Statistical Plus/Minus will show

[DKLaker]

Im not a troll, dumbass.

Ok......what should we call you then? Loser, Idiot, Moron.....pick one of these three.......we'll be happy to call you that.

[Jordan23GOAT]

Ok......what should we call you then? Loser, Idiot, Moron.....pick one of these three.......we'll be happy to call you that.
Haha, it funny cuz you think you're tough.:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[endandout]

Why is there so much dick riding on this site? F@ggots

[LA_Showtime]

It's amazing that someone like you isn't hated by everyone in this thread yet.

it's hard to take someone seriously whose screen name is jordan23goat. you also have a john wall avatar, which means you basically just ride the popular choice and don't actually support a team. oh yeah, 92 posts, douche.

[LA_Showtime]

Im not a troll, dumbass.

okay. a pathetic individual sounds better.

[endandout]

so jordan was getting cut from highschool teams

while kobe was being scouted by nba legends


and jordan was playing second fiddle to james worthy in college

while kobe was starting for the western confrence allstars


and jordan was getting shat out of the playoffs with no jumpshot or range beyond 12 feet

while kobe was in the western confrence finals taking over for the biggest come back in nba history on his way to a 1st teams and nba championship


and jordan was in the dunk contest as his only highlight

while kobe was finishing up his 1st three peat with averages of 25/5/5 combined over those 3 years


and jordan was playing baseball with only 3 finals

while kobe was finishing up on ring #5 in 7 finals



yep

kobe fans got owned in this one :roll:

One of the stupidest posts ive seen on here. And theres alot

[endandout]

This thread = Why this site is $hit

[triangleoffense]

This thread = Why this site is $hit

plus one

[Calabis]

71 games played, 6 not played. His team won 56 games iirc.

Look at these BEAST STATS CARRYING HIS TEAM.

7.6ppg, 1.9 rpg, 1.3 apg, 0.7 spg, 0.3 bpg, 1.5 topg. 41.7 FG%, 37 FG%, 82 FG%, and 15.5mpg.

Look, Kobe stans, this is a message to you. There is nothing impressive about this season, although this might be a career high FG%. Kobe started out as a benchwarmer and Jordan carried his team. Kobe is 10th greatest of all time AT BEST.

Please stop trying to start stuff in a thread where Jordan gets praised. Just because Kobe was inferior to Jordan in yet another part of the game, doesn't mean you need to whine.

You forgot those years don't count for Kobe stans, those first two years are X-files and can not be used:roll:

[Calabis]

What was MJ doing at 18?
That's right he was a role player at UNC and was forced to make sandwiches for Sam Perkins. :oldlol:

Kobe at 18 was already in the NBA and on his way to becoming the youngest player to ever be selected to an All-Star game and a Slam Dunk champion.

Let's see he just came off a high school senior season of 29/11/10, he just set a McDonalds Game scoring record with 30 points, went on to be ACC freshman of the year and hit a game winner in the Chip......not bad for 18, if you think Jordan couldn't avg 7 points a game at 18 like Kobe(not 17 as you morons are trying to claim) then you must be partially retarded....even Pat Riley talked about this during his induction, you knew he had huge talent, but was held back some by Dean Smith's system, however he never knew he would turn out to be the player he was...Kobe with two years NBA exp. can't **** with Jordans rookie year:roll:

[Sarcastic]

This thread = Why this site is $hit

OP said he was doing it as an experiment.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=189265

[Calabis]

Damn got schooled by another rookie!

How do you get your ankles broken by a rookie then get scored on like that but still get selected to the defensive first team?

LMAO!! at least it was a NBA stud, not some kid from mexico

can we say AND 1!!!!!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj28VvPsjHk&feature=related)

ANd 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgZ1LUWCAJM&feature=related)

[Calabis]

Rookie Jordan Age 21 19 fga attempts a game:

28.2 PPG, 6.5 rpg, 5.9 apg

In the run and gun 80's

Kobe age 22 with 4 years of NBA exp:

28.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 5.0 apg

After pulling back to shooting 22 times a game, to accomodate Shaq

Wow what a complete moron.......at least get the shit right

fixed it for your

[eliteballer]

Jordan turned 22 during his rookie season, ISHiot.

[Calabis]

Jordan turned 22 during his rookie season, ISHiot.

LMAO!!! He started the season at 21, at 22 he was freakin injured and missed damn near the entire season, only you would bend and twist this garbage, what else should we expect from a Kobestan

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html

[eliteballer]

...ISHiot. He was born in feb of 63, which means he turned 22 during feb of 85, which was during his rookie season.