Have you ever punched someone in the face?

[dwight20-20]

Was it worth it? Why or why not? Did you feel bad aftewards? Did it hurt your hand? Did it give you an adrenaline rush? Do you want to do it again in the future?

Discuss.

[Sarcastic]

Was it worth it? Why or why not? Did you feel bad aftewards? Did it hurt your hand? Did it give you an adrenaline rush? Do you want to do it again in the future?

Discuss.

Yes. Got into a fight. No. A few hours later, yes. Yes. If I have to.

[dwight20-20]

Did you win?

[CambyLandCan]

Yes, but he didn't hit me back. I was in a fast-food restaurant when it happened. Some guy in his 40s was starring at me once I did it, so that was the only part where I felt bad. I only hit him, because I was annoyed at him and he decided to hug me as a joke or some shit like that, so I just punched him in the nose.

[Jailblazers7]

Been in my share of fights. Most of the time its because one of my friends gets heated and something starts between a few other guys. Im pretty nonconfrontational myself.

[pete's montreux]

Been in my share of fights. Most of the time its because one of my friends gets heated and something starts between a few other guys. Im pretty nonconfrontational myself.

So I can tell you to go f*ck yourself with virtually no repercussions?

[dwight20-20]

I'm not violent but I think it would feel good to deck someone when they really deserve it.

[CambyLandCan]

I'm not violent but I think it would feel good to deck someone when they really deserve it.
It does.......but it doesn't when strangers are starring at you like you are a criminal.

[Posterize246]

I've hit and been hit. 1 hurts instantly and 1 hurts later on, so either way you kind of lose.

[Nobler]

Been in a few scraps myself. Yeah your hand will hurt the next day. And yes it felt good to mash that ****ers nose in.

[loot]

The last fight I got Into was 6 years ago and I ran up on this guy and his 2 buddies ,punched him in the face and head butted his buddy the other guy backed up and didn't want none.we were At the pool and a life guard yelled were calling the cops so I ran out to my camero and as I was pulling out the police wee pulling in they chased me through a niethborhood till they had me blocked in and then they took me to jail cuz the 2 needed stitches. Luckily my best friend is the chief prosecutor in our county and I got off with 6 months probation and anger management which I never attended

[Posterize246]

The last fight I got Into was 6 years ago and I ran up on this guy and his 2 buddies ,punched him in the face and head butted his buddy the other guy backed up and didn't want none.we were At the pool and a life guard yelled were calling the cops so I ran out to my camero and as I was pulling out the police wee pulling in they chased me through a niethborhood till they had me blocked in and then they took me to jail cuz the 2 needed stitches. Luckily my best friend is the chief prosecutor in our county and I got off with 6 months probation and anger management which I never attended
I've never wanted to **** with somebody that head butts people :oldlol:

[Jailblazers7]

So I can tell you to go f*ck yourself with virtually no repercussions?

Not what I meant at all lol.

Its more like im an easy going guy that doesn't often find myself in situation where people are saying 'go **** yourself' to me. Sure, if someone is going out of their way to rile me up then ill respond but I don't start fights over petty shit like a lot of people do.

[Sarcastic]

Did you win?

I've gotten into more than a few fights. I got into a fight in a bar and had a bottle thrown at my head which cut my head so bad it needed staples to close.

I had some pretty good fights in the bleachers of Yankee Stadium. One that I remember quite vividly was Hideki Irabu's first game. My friends and I were really drunk, and bleachers used to be a really rowdy crowd. The whole night, when cute girls would walk by, everyone would scream "SHOW YOUR TITS!!!". So by the 5th or 6th inning, we are all pretty trashed. A cute blonde walks by the front row, and some dorky guy who was not with us eggs us on to start chanting "show your tits", and we oblige. The guy behind her says "hey that's my sister", and me and my friends are like "**** YOU". The guy was pretty big. About 6'2" and probably 230+. He charges over with one of his friends that was behind him, and an entire melee breaks out in the whole bleachers. Quite a few punches were thrown.

[pete's montreux]

Not what I meant at all lol.

Its more like im an easy going guy that doesn't often find myself in situation where people are saying 'go **** yourself' to me. Sure, if someone is going out of their way to rile me up then ill respond but I don't start fights over petty shit like a lot of people do.

Oh sure. I'm the same way kind of. Kind of.

[SinJackal]

Was it worth it? Why or why not? Did you feel bad aftewards? Did it hurt your hand? Did it give you an adrenaline rush? Do you want to do it again in the future?

Discuss.

Yes, on several occaisions.

I was well worth it, every time. In all instances, it was someone being a douchebag, trying to step to me, or trying to fight me.

I have never felt bad to punching someone in the face.

It's never hurt my hand, you can build up a resistance to damage and pain there over time. I guess for some people they can't, but if you do it right it shouldn't hurt. It's a natural weapon on the body. Same with your heels, knees, elbows, teeth, nails, and upper part of the forehead.

I guess it gave an adrenaline rush sometimes, but sometimes not, like when it was a really easy fight that only took a hit or two to end.

I probably would do it in the future, if the situation called for it. I don't go out seeking fights or anything though. Haven't been in many fights in years either. Just one I can think of.

[DatDudeD]

punching someone in the nose is quite satisfying... watching them buckle with there hand over there face. never been hit in the nose in a fight but my daughter headbutted me on accident once and my eyes watered up instantly and it hurt like hell... felt a little ashamed with my daughter looking at me in a fetal postion on the ground......:(

[Sarcastic]

Yes, on several occaisions.

I was well worth it, every time. In all instances, it was someone being a douchebag, trying to step to me, or trying to fight me.

I have never felt bad to punching someone in the face.

It's never hurt my hand, you can build up a resistance to damage and pain there over time. I guess for some people they can't, but if you do it right it shouldn't hurt. It's a natural weapon on the body. Same with your heels, knees, elbows, teeth, nails, and upper part of the forehead.

I guess it gave an adrenaline rush sometimes, but sometimes not, like when it was a really easy fight that only took a hit or two to end.

I probably would do it in the future, if the situation called for it. I don't go out seeking fights or anything though. Haven't been in many fights in years either. Just one I can think of.

Bullshit. Either you never punched someone, or you never punched someone that hard. If you ram your fist into the cheek, or side of the head, you will hit bone, which will definitely hurt your hand. Every time that I have woken up the next day from a fight, my hands are usually swollen, especially the knuckles.

I used to box for about a year, so I know how to throw a punch correctly too. It still hurts.

[Zombles]

I've never wanted to **** with somebody that head butts people :oldlol:

cabrones, the only time i've been knocked down in a street fight was from a headbutt. checking the dude's hands waiting for him to swing and BAM, never see it coming and he splits my head open and knocks me on my ass in a bowling alley parking lot in front of all my friends and the girl i was trying to score :hammerhead: :roll:
popped right back up but still, jesus, a headbutt

and yeah hitting people is alright if they deserve, connecting solid feels good at the time, hand hurts later, really hurts if you break a knuckle. Always felt pretty dumb afterwards though, never been in a fight in my life that wasn't over stupid shit that could have been avoided.

[Stinky Dog]

I've punched lots of people in the face. Mostly sparring MMA or boxing.

I used to fight a lot in school. Punched quite a few people in the face and have been hit a lot too. We would have organized fight clubs daily in bathrooms/locker rooms. I'd also participate in those.

Been in less then a handful of street fights. Haven't been in any for years. A few years back close friend of mine was murdered after he kicked some kids ass in the virgin islands. I'll only fight if I absolutely have no other choice or if a loved one is in harms way.

I still have plenty of friends that I grew up who get drunk and run their mouths and usually end up scrapping. I stay out of that as well.

[NYballin]

first time i seriously punched someone in the face was in 7th grade during english class, he was an annoying ass kid that played way too much.. he deserved it

[shlver]

Probably because I was always in martial arts: Hwa Rang Do, TKD, and Kung Fu, they always said to use palm strikes and I used palm strikes in both the fights I had. Both times they telegraphed badly and I could step to the outside of their body and hit their head with a horizontal palm strike.

[jbot]

i hit a friend in the mouth in 6th grade. he was teasing me about liking this one girl in class right after recess, b4 the teacher came in. i told him not to say it again, he did and i popped him right in the mouth.

1st time i ever punched someone and i knocked his 2 front teeth out. he ran crying to the restroom, i followed and there was blood everywhere. he had to get glass teeth put in but i don't remember ever getting in trouble for it.

[Bano114]

Was it worth it? Why or why not? Did you feel bad aftewards? Did it hurt your hand? Did it give you an adrenaline rush? Do you want to do it again in the future?

Discuss.

Yes in 2 ways. When I did kick boxing punching people in the face was you know your job. I had gloves so it didnt hurt and I was more tired then pumped up.

Like 3 or 4 years ago in school I punched someone in the face who punched me in the back when I was walking away. Didnt hurt my hand but I had so much adrenaline that they made me take a test the period after I punched the guy before I got suspended, and I got 100 on the test.

[macmac]

I've punched lots of people in the face. Mostly sparring MMA or boxing.

I used to fight a lot in school. Punched quite a few people in the face and have been hit a lot too. We would have organized fight clubs daily in bathrooms/locker rooms. I'd also participate in those.

Been in less then a handful of street fights. Haven't been in any for years. A few years back close friend of mine was murdered after he kicked some kids ass in the virgin islands. I'll only fight if I absolutely have no other choice or if a loved one is in harms way.

I still have plenty of friends that I grew up who get drunk and run their mouths and usually end up scrapping. I stay out of that as well.

Lol thats funny man, we used to have the same lockerroom fight clubs in my school, we'd film them and put it on a website too before the days of youtube, i wonder if i can still find em...

I used to street brawl a lot...i've already chronicled some of it on ISH before, I even got nicknamed one hit wonder for knocking someone out cold on back to back thursdays at the local bar...

I havent been in a fight in over 2 years, I really try to avoid conflict nowadays, way back then I used to fiend for drama...just grew up since then and got too much to lose to get in a beef that will attract attention or get me stabbed/shot for nothing...

[magic chiongson]

lol i used to all the time..but i stopped in high school :D the last one was in 1996..i broke a kid's nose and got suspended :/

i was also in a 1 vs 3 fight when i was kid..what happened was i just grabbed on to 1 kid and pummeled him while letting the 2 other kids hit me as much as they want (they didnt bother to hold me lol)

[Eggy]

I wonder what factions would develop if we had an ish brawl. Kobe stans would get stomped on by the whole site. Lul

[mattevans11]

The few times that it came to blows...... it usually goes down like this.

guy comew up to me and does the chest bump thing (i never understood why people do this)

then me connecting with a headbutt.... a well timed headbutt is a good one hit type of confrontation.

i have hit people, but if a head butt is an option, that is my numebr one....

[SinJackal]

Bullshit. Either you never punched someone, or you never punched someone that hard. If you ram your fist into the cheek, or side of the head, you will hit bone, which will definitely hurt your hand. Every time that I have woken up the next day from a fight, my hands are usually swollen, especially the knuckles.

I used to box for about a year, so I know how to throw a punch correctly too. It still hurts.

It barely hurts, to the point it's not that noticeable. And yes, I have punched people extremely hard. I can punch a wall and it barely hurts (not full force obviously). I usually punch people in the eye, sort of around the temple/eye/eyebrow.

Your hands were SWOLLEN? I've never had that happen to me even when I've punched someone with full force. I've punched people on at least 20 occaisions, and have never had a swollen hand afterward, even once. The worst thing that's ever happened was cutting my hand on someone's teeth, or slight bruising from hitting someone repeatedly. . .which has happened a few times. It's never felt so bad that I whined about my hand hurting, had to shake it off, or anything. People who never throw punches and have extremely low tolerance to pain do things like that.

I can't see how you were "boxing" if you're constantly crying about your hands hurting after hitting someone. No offense, but I don't it's hard to believe there's a boxing that complains about their hands hurting after every punch.. Sure, maybe after a whole fight your hands will hurt. . .not after a few punches. You should be able to jab painted stone walls and not feel very hurt. Even I can do that, and I've never "boxed". Stop lying.



lol i used to all the time..but i stopped in high school :D the last one was in 1996..i broke a kid's nose and got suspended :/

i was also in a 1 vs 3 fight when i was kid..what happened was i just grabbed on to 1 kid and pummeled him while letting the 2 other kids hit me as much as they want (they didnt bother to hold me lol)

That sucks man. Only two fights I've ever lost were 1v3. It's always bullshit when people are too puss' to just fight you themselves. Sorry to hear that's happened to you too.

[Stinky Dog]

Punching someone in the face with your bare fist regardless of your technique will **** up your hand. Most punches don't connect clean and will hit someones head or arm/shoulder/other body part. When you're in a fight you don't feel it because you have a super intense adrenalin rush but bone is really hard. No matter how tough you are you feel that later on.

[SinJackal]

Punching someone in the face with your bare fist regardless of your technique will **** up your hand. Most punches don't connect clean and will hit someones head or arm/shoulder/other body part. When you're in a fight you don't feel it because you have a super intense adrenalin rush but bone is really hard. No matter how tough you are you feel that later on.

That simply isn't true.

It might hurt a tiny little bit, but it isn't some insane intense pain that can't easily be ignored even without adrenaline. You guys are being drama queens. :facepalm

What's this nonsense about hitting someone's arm or other body part when you're trying to hit them in the face? You must have really bad aim. :P

[rawimpact]

Once, it was a cheap shot i admit... frustrating basketball game and i let the shit talking get to me. Dude was running back after a fast break.

[Stinky Dog]

That simply isn't true.

It might hurt a tiny little bit, but it isn't some insane intense pain that can't easily be ignored even without adrenaline. You guys are being drama queens. :facepalm

What's this nonsense about hitting someone's arm or other body part when you're trying to hit them in the face? You must have really bad aim. :P
Ha, Ive just been in actual fights with dudes who are throwing down and not just standing in front of you with their hands down sticking their chins up in the air.

It might hurt a tiny bit? It does hurt a tiny bit. I honestly am starting to doubt if you've ever punched someone in the face. No offense, I could be wrong but its very easy to break your hands fist fighting.

Why do you think boxers wrap their hands?

Why do you think MMA fighters wear 4 oz gloves?

[SinJackal]

Ha, Ive just been in actual fights with dudes who are throwing down and not just standing in front of you with their hands down sticking their chins up in the air.

It might hurt a tiny bit? It does hurt a tiny bit. I honestly am starting to doubt if you've ever punched someone in the face. No offense, I could be wrong but its very easy to break your hands fist fighting.

Why do you think boxers wrap their hands?

Why do you think MMA fighters wear 4 oz gloves?

I've never hurt my hand in a fight beyond cutting it on someone's teeth. You can doubt it all you want, but if punching people is hurting you so badly maybe it's because you have weak bones, don't punch properly, and have a low pain tolerance?

Funny exaggeration of how you think my fights went though. You obviously have no idea, and are just mad that you got called out for being a drama queen with bad aim.

I wouldn't say it was that easy to break your hands fist fighting. I've never seen anyone break their hand in a fight. I've been in over 20 not counting ones with my brother, and seen at least 40 others. Nobody involved in any of them broke their hands. I've seen noses and jaws broken. Never hands. Obviously it can happen, I just don't agree it happens "easily".

The way you say it, you make it sound like human hands are made of glass. They're not. They're resistant to damage. Just like kneecaps and elbows are, providing you use them the right ways.

To answer your uninformed question about pro fighters wearing gloves, it's to reduce damage to their faces and prevent easy knockouts. Hand protection is last on the priority list for why they have to weat gloves. Punching someone bare knuckled does immensely more damage than punching them with a boxing glove. Hence, why the gloves with less padding lead to quicker knockouts and more facial damage during fights.

I guarantee you that every boxer on the planet would not wear gloves at all if they had a choice of whether they could wear them or not. Their main purpose is to gimp the damage they deal out.

I'm glad you did bring up MMA though, with their barely padded gloves. How often do they break their hands in fights? Not often. The padding isn't magically giving their hands great protection either.

You probably just have a low pain tolerance and perhaps even calcium deficiancies if you're breaking your hands and are in a lot of pain any time you punch people. I'm not trying to make fun of you, just letting you know that not everyone reacts the same way as you do when they throw punches.

[rawimpact]

Ha, Ive just been in actual fights with dudes who are throwing down and not just standing in front of you with their hands down sticking their chins up in the air.

It might hurt a tiny bit? It does hurt a tiny bit. I honestly am starting to doubt if you've ever punched someone in the face. No offense, I could be wrong but its very easy to break your hands fist fighting.

Why do you think boxers wrap their hands?

Why do you think MMA fighters wear 4 oz gloves?

:roll: this guy

[SinJackal]

:roll: this guy

He thinks human hands are made of glass, and that it causes imense pain if you hit someone. :facepalm

[Stinky Dog]

I've never hurt my hand in a fight beyond cutting it on someone's teeth. You can doubt it all you want, but if punching people is hurting you so badly maybe it's because you have weak bones, don't punch properly, and have a low pain tolerance?

Funny exaggeration of how you think my fights went though. You obviously have no idea, and are just mad that you got called out for being a drama queen with bad aim.

I wouldn't say it was that easy to break your hands fist fighting. I've never seen anyone break their hand in a fight. I've been in over 20 not counting ones with my brother, and seen at least 40 others. Nobody involved in any of them broke their hands. I've seen noses and jaws broken. Never hands. Obviously it can happen, I just don't agree it happens "easily".

The way you say it, you make it sound like human hands are made of glass. They're not. They're resistant to damage. Just like kneecaps and elbows are, providing you use them the right ways.

To answer your uninformed question about pro fighters wearing gloves, it's to reduce damage to their faces and prevent easy knockouts. Hand protection is last on the priority list for why they have to weat gloves. Punching someone bare knuckled does immensely more damage than punching them with a boxing glove. Hence, why the gloves with less padding lead to quicker knockouts and more facial damage during fights.

I guarantee you that every boxer on the planet would not wear gloves at all if they had a choice of whether they could wear them or not. Their main purpose is to gimp the damage they deal out.

I'm glad you did bring up MMA though, with their barely padded gloves. How often do they break their hands in fights? Not often. The padding isn't magically giving their hands great protection either.

You probably just have a low pain tolerance and perhaps even calcium deficiancies if you're breaking your hands and are in a lot of pain any time you punch people. I'm not trying to make fun of you, just letting you know that not everyone reacts the same way as you do when they throw punches.
Basically what it boils down to is the difference between actually punching someone in the face and pretending you do on an internet forum.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080120075420AAepONk

MMA fighters break their hands very often. It's one of the more common injuries in the sport you poser.


The collision between head and fist doesn't always favor the fist.

Brian Bowles couldn't come out of his corner for the third round of his World Extreme Cagefighting bantamweight title defense against Dominick Cruz on Saturday because of a broken right hand. That follows a broken left hand he suffered in winning the title against Miguel Angel Torres in August.

"I've had a couple of broken hands, and I've just got to let it get better," Bowles said after the fight.

Other recent WEC champions have had similar misfortune. Urijah Faber broke both hands trying to regain his featherweight belt from Mike Brown, continuing to fight while throwing few punches and more elbows. WEC created an interim lightweight belt while waiting for Jamie Varner's hand to heal.

Despite WEC's run of bad luck, hand injuries aren't the most common in mixed martial arts. Nor are hands necessarily more likely to break in MMA than in boxing. A survey of 2009 medical suspensions in Nevada found at least one hand injury on each of five major cards, while five hand injuries were recorded in nine UFC and WEC cards. Most MMA suspensions were for lacerations or knockouts.

Yet the hand is the offensive weapon most likely to be injured in a fight, and MMA fighters' hands are vulnerable for a couple of reasons. The starting point is the glove.

"The primary purpose of a glove is to protect the hand of the person wearing it," says Johnny Benjamin, a doctor who writes the "Ask the Doc" feature for MMAJunkie.com. "Smaller 4-ounce MMA gloves provide far less protection than 12-ounce boxing gloves."

Hitting with the strongest part of the hand can help. Looping punches are risky, Benjamin says.

"Proper technique utilizes a straight line with impact on the first two knuckles (the two knuckles closest to the thumb with very little if any involvement of the other two knuckles)," Benjamin says.

Faber apparently missed a punch against Brown. X-rays he posted of his broken right hand showed a clean break in his fourth metacarpal, which connects the wrist to the ring finger.

Common or not, hand injuries can keep fighters out of action for a while. Bowles went seven months between fights after beating Torres for the title. Varner spent nearly a year out of action when his reset bone didn't heal properly.

"It's been such a long, drawn-out thing," Varner said in October as he returned to training.

Do you really want to continue with this?

[Stinky Dog]

He thinks human hands are made of glass, and that it causes imense pain if you hit someone. :facepalm
More like I'm not some geek who is into anime and spins fables on forums during their down time.

[SinJackal]

Basically what it boils down to is the difference between actually punching someone in the face and pretending you do on an internet forum.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080120075420AAepONk

MMA fighters break their hands very often. It's one of the more common injuries in the sport you poser.



Do you really want to continue with this?

No shit it's one of the most common injuries in a sport where the main thing you do is punch people 50-100 times in a fight. That's like saying leg and ankle injuries are the most common injuries for runners.

You haven't proved anything.

When you make a tight fist rather than a loose one, you don't hurt yourself much when you hit people. Period.

Stop acting like I denied that you can break your hand. The thing in question was if it hurts a lot when you punch someone, and the answer is that it does not. Breaking your hand is a side effect that -CAN- happen, but does NOT happen for the large majority of punches that are delivered. If I could put odds to the likelyhood of breaking your hand by punching someone in the face bare knuckled, it would be less than 5% easily.



More like I'm not some geek who is into anime and spins fables on forums during their down time.

Just a geek who can't throw a punch without breaking your hand or doubling over in pain? :facepalm

[Stinky Dog]

Have you ever heard of a boxers fracture you tool?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer%27s_fracture

[SinJackal]

Have you ever heard of a boxers fracture you tool?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer%27s_fracture

And my reply to that is something I've already said.


Stop acting like I denied that you can break your hand. The thing in question was if it hurts a lot when you punch someone, and the answer is that it does not.

You aren't making any points that are relevant to what's being discussed.

[rawimpact]

Are you really comparing the hand of a boxer to the hand of the average person? LOL

[Stinky Dog]

let's just keep with it since you still wanna ride it out:


I'll second the short answer.

Most people who get in real fights (as opposed to Hollywood fights) are either lucky, not swinging hard enough or hit the jaw (which has a lot of 'give').

I have broken hand bones hitting someone in the head.

See the UFC. In the early years many fighters broke their hands until 'Tank"Abbot started using gloves to protect his hands. Many followed, then it became mandatory.


How is it you can punch someone and not break your hand? The human skull is pretty hard, is there a certain technique that is used?
Avoid hitting the skull.


I x-ray at least 4 or 5 people a week who typically get drunk or angry (or both!) and then hit a wall/door/car/lamp post or other hard object with a wild swing and connect with their 4th and 5th metacarpals and break their bones. If they had hit straight, there would have been a lesser chance of fracturing the 2nd and 3rd metacarpal heads. I almost never see 2nd or 3rd MC head fractures. It's the curved swing and connecting with the outside of the hand that causes the problem 9 times out of 10 in my experience.

So even with gloves on, the sheer force of the punches thrown in an arc and the connection with solid body parts exerts enough force on the 4th and 5th metacarpal heads to cause fractures. Straight punches would virtually eliminate this injury, but boxing is in love with hooks.


Boxers Wrap there hands to protect there knuckles, wrist and the small back bones in their hand. if they didnt do that there would be many hand injuries

more?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080405201558AA117IR

[Stinky Dog]

And my reply to that is something I've already said.



You aren't making any points that are relevant to what's being discussed.
post a pic.

[SinJackal]

let's just keep with it since you still wanna ride it out

I can't let out a big enough sigh that would encompass the depressing attempt an an argument you're making.

Every source you've posted so far has almost nothing to do with what we're talking about. You keep posting UFC and WBA sources who are talking about pro athletes that punch hundreds of times during a fight, at far greater force than the average person. Which means, it's completely irrelevant in a discussion about whether or not punches can be thrown and landed with very minimal pain to the puncher.

You've posted zero sources which refute that, the topic of discussion. You keep posting sources about bone breaks, which is something that hasn't been refuted once.


The funnist thing of all is, you're posting sources that contain points i've already made, and are acting like it somehow helps your argument. For example:


Karate and Tae kwon-do practitioners avoid this injury by striking with straight punches using the knuckles of the index and middle fingers. It has been concluded through martial arts training that punching with the tightest possible clenched fist can prevent this type of fracture as well


When you make a tight fist rather than a loose one, you don't hurt yourself much when you hit people. Period.

But I guess I don't know what I'm talking about, right? :no:

Throw your punches properly and they're not going to hurt you much.

It's sad that you spent ten minutes looking up sources only to not even make a relevant point.



Are you really comparing the hand of a boxer to the hand of the average person? LOL

Of course he is. Boxers, who throw punches MUCH harder than the average person, I might add. He can't refute the actual point that myself and others have already made, so he's just posting irrelevant sites now to create the illusion that he's somehow "owning" someone since he can't make a logical, factual point in his own words to refute what's actually being discussed. It's embarrassing, and is the easiest way to know whether or not someone's talking out of their ass.

[Stinky Dog]

Are you really comparing the hand of a boxer to the hand of the average person? LOL
do you really think your average persons hands are stronger than those of a boxers?

this is getting better and better.

http://www.fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=346

[QUOTE]No matter how many years you have studied the martial arts, it

[B-Low]

well this is just getting out of HAND. (hand? get it? eh? eh? anyone?)

[rawimpact]

I don't think they're stronger, i think they are weaker and more prone to injuries because of the amount of stress they are under... Countless hours of punching a bag.

[Stinky Dog]

Post a picture man.

Are you afraid that if you do you'll be too ashamed to post in this thread again?

[SinJackal]

do you really think your average persons hands are stronger than those of a boxers?

The average person doesn't punch even 1% as often as boxers, which means less chance for injury. :facepalm

That's also an irrelevant point to make when we're talking about whether or not your hand hurts after punching someone once or twice.

Why do you keep trying to go off topic? This is getting boring.

[SinJackal]

Post a picture man.

Are you afraid that if you do you'll be too ashamed to post in this thread again?

A picture of me has nothing to do with the subject. But if you really want to see pics of me for whatever reason, here you go.

http://www.myspace.com/sinjackal/photos/54629868#a=0&i=54629868

From a few years ago.

[rawimpact]

Post a picture man.

Are you afraid that if you do you'll be too ashamed to post in this thread again?

:facepalm

i see you lost the argument

[El Kabong]

Yes, I got beat up several times in school. I do wing chun lessons twice a week as well so I get hit in the face a fair bit there too. It's not full force, but it still hurts.

[Stinky Dog]

Here is a thread from a MMA arts forum discussing how frequently you damage your hands fighting and why fighters tape their hands/wear gloves.
[
QUOTE]The gloves are not as important to protecting the hands as proper wrapping is. Without wrapping your hands, it is very easy for something to break.

Edit: The added padding from gloves definitely helps prevent some damage though. Especially bruised knuckles, damn they suck. [/QUOTE]


When i put on my 4 oz gloves they help a ton.

its fun to punch a wall lightly and then punch your face with the same force.

doesnt hurt your hand at all against the wall. face hurts.

gloves help a lot.


agreed. they do help and the wraps help a ton but obviously still a danger of breaking your hand, But punching someone with wraps and gloves hurts less than punching someone bare knuckle if thats what your asking

that quote was courtesy of a professional figher ^

[beer]

you definitely **** up your hand. you really don't realize how hard someone’s head is till you've been in a fight. i've only been in one fight, when i was 17 i believe (i'm 22 now) i broke my pinky and the extensor tendon on my right middle finger is now crooked. my hand didn't hurt during the fight, too much adrenaline i guess. i didn't realize what had happened till after the fight while i was driving home.

[rawimpact]

wow you're still failing...

you can't compare a pro fighter to the average person

the average person has thrown how many punches? Less then the average MMA fighter throws in a day during training minus ~80% the power

[Stinky Dog]

A picture of me has nothing to do with the subject. But if you really want to see pics of me for whatever reason, here you go.

http://www.myspace.com/sinjackal/photos/54629868#a=0&i=54629868

From a few years ago.
man you sure look tough as ****. i can tell you've been in some wars dude. can't believe i ever doubted you. i wouldn't **** with you man.

[B-Low]

really? No one? Out of HAND?? Cuz it's about hand injuries...

[El Kabong]

One of the times I got beat up in school, the guy who hit me came off worse. His hand and wrist swelled up cause he ****ed his wrist up or something and I didn't have a mark on me.

[SinJackal]

Here is a thread from a MMA arts forum discussing how frequently you damage your hands fighting and why fighters tape their hands/wear gloves.
[
QUOTE]The gloves are not as important to protecting the hands as proper wrapping is. Without wrapping your hands, it is very easy for something to break.

Edit: The added padding from gloves definitely helps prevent some damage though. Especially bruised knuckles, damn they suck.




The average person doesn't punch even 1% as often as boxers, which means less chance for injury. :facepalm

That's also an irrelevant point to make when we're talking about whether or not your hand hurts after punching someone once or twice.

Why do you keep trying to go off topic? This is getting boring.

Make a relevant point, or just stop.

[rawimpact]

really? No one? Out of HAND?? Cuz it's about hand injuries...


Not quite sure what you're trying to say...

[dwight20-20]

really? No one? Out of HAND?? Cuz it's about hand injuries...

don't worry I laughed.

But this is not good guys we have to get this resolved. I really need to know if it's worth it to punch someone in the face or not. If I break my hand it's definitely not worth it.

[rawimpact]

don't worry I laughed.

But this is not good guys we have to get this resolved. I really need to know if it's worth it to punch someone in the face or not. If I break my hand it's definitely not worth it.

Go ahead and do it, not saying it wont hurt the next day but the chances of you breaking it are low. I know this was a rhetorical question, but still i laughed though

[Eggy]

If you get a clean hit, it will hurt. What a stupid argument.

[dwight20-20]

Go ahead and do it, not saying it wont hurt the next day but the chances of you breaking it are low. I know this was a rhetorical question, but still i laughed though

alright sounds good. Only if they deserve it though.

[SinJackal]

don't worry I laughed.

But this is not good guys we have to get this resolved. I really need to know if it's worth it to punch someone in the face or not. If I break my hand it's definitely not worth it.

You won't break it. The people saying you will are huge pusses who have been in 0-2 fights ever.

Just make sure you connect with the middle part of your tightly clenched fist. The worst "most likely" that will happen is that one of your knuckles will feel a little sore for a day. There's a very low chance you will do any damage that will hurt for more than a day. There's a much greater chance that it will barely hurt for half an hour at most.



funny how everyone in here thats actual been in a real fight attests to the
fact that it's very easy to damage your hand in fight professional or amateur.

then we have the guy who has been in 499 street fights:

http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/6710/l63296d086b584cc2b43e1b.jpg

Who has never hurt his hand or ever known of anyone to hurt their hand in a fight.

Is that Legend of Josh with hair?

For starters. . .I never said I've been in 499 street fights, nor did I say I've never hurt my hand. I said I've never hurt it very much. I guess you need to make things up to have something to argue about though, since you can't refute the points I did make.

I can tell you really care about this though, since you went through the trouble of saving my pic and uploading it just so you could post it. It might actually have been funny if I looked bad in the pic.

[SinJackal]

http://swallowthesky.org/ij/giveup.gif

[Eggy]

You won't break it. The people saying you will are huge pusses who have been in 0-2 fights ever.

Just make sure you connect with the middle part of your tightly clenched fist. The worst "most likely" that will happen is that one of your knuckles will feel a little sore for a day. There's a very low chance you will do any damage that will hurt for more than a day. There's a much greater chance that it will barely hurt for half an hour at most.

For starters. . .I never said I've been in 499 street fights, nor did I say I've never hurt my hand. I said I've never hurt it very much. I guess you need to make things up to have something to argue about though, since you can't refute the points I did make.

I can tell you really care about this though, since you went through the trouble of saving my pic and uploading it just so you could post it. It might actuallyhave been funny if I looked bad in the pic.
this guy is hilarious. So hitting someone in their temple or where there is minimal flesh will never lead to a broken hand? You're delusional.

[SinJackal]

Um you just told a person that he "won't break it." That's a pretty bold statement.

All you did was scroll through the whole thread to nitpick my not including the word "likely" in one of my sentences. I've already said multiple times that it's possible. Since you're really that clueless, I'll post quotes of it.



I wouldn't say it was that easy to break your hands fist fighting. I've never seen anyone break their hand in a fight. I've been in over 20 not counting ones with my brother, and seen at least 40 others. Nobody involved in any of them broke their hands. I've seen noses and jaws broken. Never hands. Obviously it can happen, I just don't agree it happens "easily".



Stop acting like I denied that you can break your hand. The thing in question was if it hurts a lot when you punch someone, and the answer is that it does not. Breaking your hand is a side effect that -CAN- happen, but does NOT happen for the large majority of punches that are delivered. If I could put odds to the likelyhood of breaking your hand by punching someone in the face bare knuckled, it would be less than 5% easily.

Nitpick words all you want. I never once took a stance that it was impossible to break a hand in a fight. I merely said it was not nearly as likely as posters here are trying to lead people to believe.

Next?

[Eggy]

All you did was scroll through the whole thread to nitpick my not including the word "likely" in one of my sentences. I've already said multiple times that it's possible. Since you're really that clueless, I'll post quotes of it.






Nitpick words all you want. I never once took a stance that it was impossible to break a hand in a fight. I merely said it was not nearly as likely as posters here are trying to lead people to believe.

Next?
It is likely you ****ing idiot. Why do they teach in military, self defense, and things like these hard for soft places(knuckles for fleshy areas) and soft for hard places(palm strikes to the head for example)? Because it is very ****ing likely you will injure your hand if you punch someone in their hard skull.

[SinJackal]

What a ****ing gem that last line is.

Plenty people can do that. Isn't special.



So you've only lost 2 fights and you've punched 20 people in the face (your account in a previous paragraph), that would put you at 20-2 in street fights. You're the street fighting man.

I agree.

Fyi, all you've done here was expose yourself to be unknowledgable about the subject, and a sore loser when you lose an argument. :confusedshrug:



It is likely you ****ing idiot. Why do they teach in military, self defense, and things like these hard for soft places(knuckles for fleshy areas) and soft for hard places(palm strikes to the head for example)? Because it is very ****ing likely you will injure your hand if you punch someone in their hard skull.

Your definition of "likely" must be much different than mine. I don't consider less than 5% to be likely.

Punching someone in the face, and not their forehead which is apparently what you are talking about, is not likely to cause breaks.

[beer]

It is likely you ****ing idiot. Why do they teach in military, self defense, and things like these hard for soft places(knuckles for fleshy areas) and soft for hard places(palm strikes to the head for example)? Because it is very ****ing likely you will injure your hand if you punch someone in their hard skull.

only if you're a pusse, which sinjackal is not. proved through his street fighting record.

[PowerGlove]

Marlo, chill.

To answer the OP: If you have to make a thread about it, then punching whoever inspired this in the face can probably be avoided. Whenever I punched someone, I never thought about doing it, it just happened.

[dwight20-20]

I punched someone in the face once and my tibia shattered.

True story.

Interesting


People arguing: maybe you should punch each other in the face. Then evaluate how your hands feel. Problem solved. Or if you don't want to punch each other you could punch a skull like object.

[dwight20-20]

Marlo, chill.

To answer the OP: If you have to make a thread about it, then punching whoever inspired this in the face can probably be avoided. Whenever I punched someone, I never thought about doing it, it just happened.


Oh I don't have anyone in mind. I'm just thinking if the situation were to arise where someone deserved to take a fist to the face, would I be the giver of that fist and would it be worth it.

[PowerGlove]

Oh I don't have anyone in mind. I'm just thinking if the situation were to arise where someone deserved to take a fist to the face, would I be the giver of that fist and would it be worth it.
You dont have to punch them in the face to punish them or whatnot there are plenty of other areas to hit.

[jbot]

You dont have to punch them in the face to punish them or whatnot there are plenty of other areas to hit.
throat.

[dwight20-20]

I was actually going to ask if there would be a better area. Throat would probably be just as satisfying and would do some damage. Getting hit in the stomach is never fun but I don't know if that would be as satisfying. Anywhere below the belt is female-esque.

[Eggy]

I was actually going to ask if there would be a better area. Throat would probably be just as satisfying and would do some damage. Getting hit in the stomach is never fun but I don't know if that would be as satisfying. Anywhere below the belt is female-esque.
Some damage? If you get a clean hit it'll do a lot more damage than a clean hit to someones head.

[dwight20-20]

but it's a harder target. So someone like me who is not an experienced fighter probably couldn't get a clean throat strike on the first blow.

[SinJackal]

throat.

Sure, and then potentially go to jail for crushing someone's windpipe and killing them. :\

[jbot]

Sure, and then potentially go to jail for crushing someone's windpipe and killing them. :\
yeah, that would be horrible. i remember pushing a friend down a hill in a homemade sled made from a cardboard box. the "sled" didn't slide, stopped mid push and my throat was shoved into the edge of it. i remember laying on the ground in pain.

[SinJackal]

yeah, that would be horrible. i remember pushing a friend down a hill in a homemade sled made from a cardboard box. the "sled" didn't slide, stopped mid push and my throat was shoved into the edge of it. i remember laying on the ground in pain.

jesus :\ Lucky nothing worse happened o_O Like damaging your larynx.

[Eggy]

Sinjackal why aren't you responding to my post?

[jbot]

jesus :\ Lucky nothing worse happened o_O Like damaging your larynx.
yeah it seriously hurt. felt like i had something stuck in my throat the rest of the day and could hardly swallow. i couldn't imagine getting a judo chop in the throat instead.

[SinJackal]

Sinjackal why aren't you responding to my post?

I already did. I'm pretty bored of the whole discussion though. Whatever you have to say, wrap it up.



yeah it seriously hurt. felt like i had something stuck in my throat the rest of the day and could hardly swallow. i couldn't imagine getting a judo chop in the throat instead.

Glad you ended up okay though. Freak accidents happen all the time. :\

[Eggy]

Less than 5%? lol where'd you get this figure from? The face is pretty damn boney... I'm seriously doubting you've ever been in a fight.

[SinJackal]

Less than 5%? lol where'd you get this figure from? The face is pretty damn boney... I'm seriously doubting you've ever been in a fight.

I really don't care what you think, or doubt. I gain nothing by earning your worthless props, and I lose nothing by not getting them.

Less than 5% is my estimation. What's yours? 25%? 40%?

[Eggy]

I really don't care what you think, or doubt. I gain nothing by earning your worthless props, and I lose nothing by not getting them.

Less than 5% is my estimation. What's yours? 25%? 40%?
So what do you base this estimation off of?

[SinJackal]

So what do you base this estimation off of?

I asked you what your estimation was. Answer my question before you ask more.

[Lamar Doom]

hold up hold up hold up... did someone just have their toughness called into question... then have a picture requested to determine whether or not said person looked tough... then have him post a myspace photo album consisting of the following 6 pictures?

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2848/sinjackal1.jpg
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/7333/sinjackal2.jpg
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8898/sinjackal3.jpg
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2355/sinjackal4.jpg
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/4075/sinjackal5.jpg
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9994/sinjackal6.jpg

[Eggy]

I asked you what your estimation was. Answer my question before you ask more.
I will stand by my statement that it is likely a fist will suffer injury on impact with a hard object such a skull. Less then 5% = highly unlikely, so give me some evidence you based that off of.

[SinJackal]

I will stand by my statement that it is likely a fist will suffer injury on impact with a hard object such a skull. Less then 5% = highly unlikely, so give me some evidence you based that off of.

So baiscally, you're afraid of giving a % in fear of being made fun of?

If less than 5% is "highly unlikely", you must think the odds are far greater than 5%. Why not put a number to it? You're really apprehensive for a poster who's so quick to critique others.

[Eggy]

So baiscally, you're afraid of giving a % in fear of being made fun of?

If less than 5% is "highly unlikely", you must think the odds are far greater than 5%. Why not put a number to it? You're really apprehensive for a poster who's so quick to critique others.
I'm not an idiot who throws out numbers with no factual basis behind them but I assure you it's higher than 5%.

[JerrySteakhouse]

Last time I punched a dude in the face he bled a lot from his nose. That was about 4 years ago (10th grade). Man was talkin that shit so I knocked the ****ing guy out. I usually try to avoid fights but that man deserves it. Funny though, me and the dude pretty good homies now though.

[beer]

sinjackal you have to understand something. not all of us are built with your physique. you're the perfect specimen for fighting. that's why less than 5% seems logical to you

[SinJackal]

I'm not an idiot who throws out numbers with no factual basis behind them but I assure you it's higher than 5%.

Show me proof that it's higher than 5%. Back up your claim, since you're so sure that I'm wrong.

FYI, just to put this into perspective, if you were to say it was 25%, that would mean the odds of breaking your hand after throwing 4 punches in your life is nearly 100%. At 20%, 5-6 punches = nearly 100% odds of breaking. 10% = extremely high chance of breaking your hand after a mere dozen punches over any span of time.

Less than 5% means it would take the average person over 20 punches to break their hand. Some may break it on the first punch, some may not break it after 50. Use logic.

[Eggy]

Show me proof that it's higher than 5%. Back up your claim, since you're so sure that I'm wrong.

FYI, just to put this into perspective, if you were to say it was 25%, that would mean the odds of breaking your hand after throwing 4 punches in your life is nearly 100%. At 20%, 5-6 punches = nearly 100% odds of breaking. 10% = extremely high chance of breaking your hand after a mere dozen punches over any span of time.

Less than 5% means it would take the average person over 20 punches to break their hand. Some may break it on the first punch, some may not break it after 50. Use logic.
LMFAO look, you imbecile, the number of punches has no correlation with breaking someones hand. Do this experiment instead, punch a piece of concrete, as hard as you can. Come back to me and tell me how your high threshold of pain and your knuckles fare.

[Gifted Mind]

FYI, just to put this into perspective, if you were to say it was 25%, that would mean the odds of breaking your hand after throwing 4 punches in your life is nearly 100%. At 20%, 5-6 punches = nearly 100% odds of breaking. 10% = extremely high chance of breaking your hand after a mere dozen punches over any span of time.

Less than 5% means it would take the average person over 20 punches to break their hand. Some may break it on the first punch, some may not break it after 50. Use logic.

:facepalm

So if the odds were 25%, in 4 punches the odds of breaking your hand is nearly 100%? Where did you learn this kind of probability? At 20%, the odds of breaking your hand is nearly 100% in 5-6 punches? :lol

So using this fallacious probability logic, if my odds were 25%, and I threw 5 punches, instead of 4, my odds of breaking my hand would be nearly 125%. Has it occurred to you yet that something might be wrong with your way of calculating the final odds?



Use logic

How ironic. Your whole post was illogical and flawed.

[SinJackal]

LMFAO look, you imbecile, the number of punches has no correlation with breaking someones hand. Do this experiment instead, punch a piece of concrete, as hard as you can. Come back to me and tell me how your high threshold of pain and your knuckles fares.

Punching concrete isn't what the topic or discussion is about, and is therefore irrelevant. The debate is the likelihood of breaking your hand while punching someone in the face.

The number of punches is exactly what is correlated to the odds of what their hand breaking is.

If 5 people punches someone in the face 20 times each, and only one of them breaks their hand one time during that test, that means the odds of them breaking their hand while punching someone is 1%, because that was one break in 100 punches.

Are you really that shitty with numbers that you don't know what odds are? :facepalm

It looks like this argument is over.



:facepalm

So if the odds were 25%, in 4 punches the odds of breaking your hand is nearly 100%? Where did you learn this kind of probability? At 20%, the odds of breaking your hand is nearly 100% in 5-6 punches? :lol

So using this fallacious probability logic, if my odds were 25%, and I threw 5 punches, instead of 4, my odds of breaking my hand would be nearly 125%. Has it occurred to yet that something might be wrong with your way of calculating the final odds?



How ironic. Your whole post was illogical and flawed.

:facepalm

Dude. . .if you roll a 6 sided die 6 times, do you get each number once? No.

If there's a 1 in 4 chance of something happening, the odds of it happening are not 100% if it's tried four times.

Critical failure.

[Stinky Dog]

LMFAO look, you imbecile, the number of punches has no correlation with breaking someones hand. Do this experiment instead, punch a piece of concrete, as hard as you can. Come back to me and tell me how your high threshold of pain and your knuckles fare.
bro please, he's already done that, multiple times:


It barely hurts, to the point it's not that noticeable. And yes, I have punched people extremely hard. I can punch a wall and it barely hurts (not full force obviously). I usually punch people in the eye, sort of around the temple/eye/eyebrow.

http://insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4809890&postcount=30

[Gifted Mind]

Are you really that shitty with numbers that you don't know what odds are? :facepalm

It looks like this argument is over.



I can't take the irony anymore.




If there's a 1 in 4 chance of something happening, the odds of it happening are not 100% if it's tried four times.


Really? Thanks captain obvious. However, you said the exact opposite here.




if you were to say it was 25%, that would mean the odds of breaking your hand after throwing 4 punches in your life is nearly 100%



Critical failure.

Indeed. Critical failure. In once case, if it is 25%, then after 4 punches, it's nearly 100%. In the other case, if it is 25%, the odds are not 100% if tried 4 times.


You are completely contradicting yourself. I hope you realize this by now. Quick edit all your posts. Especially the part telling everyone they suck with numbers and need to use logic.

[Eggy]

The most important variable is the velocity of the fist on impact not the number of punches. Seriously, your stupid. Our aim is to find the probability of a fist suffering damage from a hard object. Since bone is 4 times stronger than concrete, we can get a good idea o how a fist will react against a hard surface achieving a good solid punch because were not going to swing like a little girl in a fight are we Mr 22-2 street fighter?

[PowerGlove]

Way to emasculate this thread. We went from macho to probability.

[Gifted Mind]

Way to emasculate this thread. We went from macho to probability.

And in both areas, SinJackal fails miserably.

[SinJackal]

The most important variable is the velocity of the fist on impact not the number of punches. Seriously, your stupid. Our aim is to find the probability of a fist suffering damage from a hard object.

Wrong. You're trying to specify it too much to cloud the issue. Any punch to the face period, not, "only punches to the face that might have a high chance of breaking the hand".



Indeed. Critical failure. In once case, if it is 25%, then after 4 punches, it's nearly 100%. In the other case, if it is 25%, the odds are not 100% if tried 4 times.


You are completely contradicting yourself. I hope you realize this by now. Quick edit all your posts. Especially the part telling everyone they suck with numbers and need to use logic.

Your ignorance knows no bounds. If you read what you foolishly think is contradictory, you will see that you're claiming that saying something is "nearly 100%" is somehow contradictory to "not 100%'.

In both cases, it wouldn't be 100%, meaning it's not contradictory. :facepalm

I will now rip apart your other stupid post.



:facepalm

So if the odds were 25%, in 4 punches the odds of breaking your hand is nearly 100%?

Yes, the odds are about 80%.


Where did you learn this kind of probability?

In school, somewhere you apparently did not attend.


At 20%, the odds of breaking your hand is nearly 100% in 5-6 punches? :lol

The probaility of a 20% chance ocurring in 6 tries is about the same as 25% in 4. Slightly higher. Slightly lower if in 5 tries, hence the 5-6 that I used.


So using this fallacious probability logic, if my odds were 25%, and I threw 5 punches, instead of 4, my odds of breaking my hand would be nearly 125%. Has it occurred to you yet that something might be wrong with your way of calculating the final odds?

It's cute how you mistake "nearly 100%" for, "exactly 100%", making your point laughably stupid.



How ironic. Your whole post was illogical and flawed.

Funny, I was thinking the same thing about your post.

For someone with the handle "Gifted Mind", you sure are an embarrassment as a scholar.

[-playmaker-]

first I saw Marlo's 2 threads...didn't understand them really...

then I realized I had to read this...:lol

some good stuff in here...

although, I get the feeling that jackle is young...so, maybe he should get the benifit of the doubt here...

how old Jackle, 18-21?

[-playmaker-]

I can punch a wall and it barely hurts (not full force obviously).


I usually punch people in the eye, sort of around the temple/eye/eyebrow.

okay, those are good...:lol

[SinJackal]

first I saw Marlo's 2 threads...didn't understand them really...

then I realized I had to read this...:lol

some good stuff in here...

although, I get the feeling that jackle is young...so, maybe he should get the benifit of the doubt here...

how old Jackle, 18-21?

25.

I also never refuted that a hand can be broken from a punch, they're just acting like I said that when I twice have said that it's possible, just not as likely as they're making it out to be.

[Eggy]

That's way too broad. If you're punching someone in a fight, you're using a reasonable amount of force. If you're punching someone with a force of a baby you could be punching to ifinity and your hand wouldn't break. So number of punches is not what we want to use as our independent variable. We want velocity on impact.

[Gifted Mind]

Your ignorance knows no bounds. If you read what you foolishly think is contradictory, you will see that you're claiming that saying something is "nearly 100%" is somehow contradictory to "not 100%'.

In both cases, it wouldn't be 100%, meaning it's not contradictory. :facepalm

I will now rip apart your other stupid post.




Yes, the odds are about 80%.



In school, somewhere you apparently did not attend.



The probaility of a 20% chance ocurring in 6 tries is about the same as 25% in 4. Slightly higher. Slightly lower if in 5 tries, hence the 5-6 that I used.



It's cute how you mistake "nearly 100%" for, "exactly 100%", making your point laughably stupid.




Funny, I was thinking the same thing about your post.

For someone with the handle "Gifted Mind", you sure are an embarrassment as a scholar.



So now nearly 100% is 80%. Instead of 80% you say nearly 100%. So when you got a 80% on your exam, the teacher probably told you you got nearly 100%. And when you scored 80% on your quiz, you brag to your friends you got nearly 100%. Correct? Is this how your brain works? :facepalm
In what school is 80% nearly 100%?




Yes, the odds are about 80%.


Incorrect once again. Explain where you got this number. Out of your ass? Because you once again failed in your probability calculations. If you had a 25% chance of breaking your hand in each punch, in 4 punches the odds of breaking your hand are not about 80% like you claim. Unless by "about" 80% you can go up or down 20% more percent. :lol

[-playmaker-]

25.

I also never refuted that a hand can be broken from a punch, they're just acting like I said that when I twice have said that it's possible, just not as likely as they're making it out to be.
well, I actually kind of agree with you here...

I am no fight expert but I have been in plenty...and the people I grew up aound too...I have never knwn anyone to break their hand in a fight...but yeah, obviously it happens...


Marlo, I have also always assumed that gloves are worn in boxing and MMA for the person receiving the blow???

:confusedshrug:



you know, for years and years, boxers fought "bare fisted"...

http://www.gtj.org.uk/typo3temp/pics/5f8417e2cb.jpg


could settle this by maybe trying to find out how common a broken hand was back then...

[-playmaker-]

are you guys like really trying to correct his math and shit?...come on now...:lol

[Stinky Dog]

jACkaL KilLEr oF GOdZZZ

http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/6710/l63296d086b584cc2b43e1b.jpg

The champ is here. 22-2 in live street fights. His only two losses coming via gang jumping. Has punched walls made of concrete and hardly flinched.

THE SIN JACKAL

Capable of "building up a resistance to damage and pain"...

THE SIN JACKAL

"Has punched people on at least 20 occasions"

THE SIN JACKAL

[SinJackal]

So now nearly 100% is 80%. Instead of 80% you say nearly 100%. So when you got a 80% on your exam, the teacher probably told you you got nearly 100%. And when you scored 80% on your quiz, you brag to your friends you got nearly 100%. Correct? Is this how your brain works? :facepalm
In what school is 80% nearly 100%?




Incorrect once again. Explain where you got this number. Out of your ass? Because you once again failed in your probability calculations. If you had a 25% chance of breaking your hand in each punch, in 4 punches the odds of breaking your hand are not about 80% like you claim. Unless by "about" 80% you can go up or down 20% more percent. :lol


Yes, 80% is nearly 100%, as opposed to the less than 5% that was being talked about before.

I also said "about 80%", not "exactly 80%". You're just being nitpicky since you don't have a point.

FYI, thus far you have posted zero statistical numbers to disprove me, and failed logically in every single point you tried to make, including a massive failure in the reading comprehension department.



well, I actually kind of agree with you here...

I am no fight expert but I have been in plenty...and the people I grew up aound too...I have never knwn anyone to break their hand in a fight...but yeah, obviously it happens...

Thank you, that's exactly the point I was trying to make. Word for word.

They're just trying to twist shit around to "prove me wrong", when they don't even know how often it even happens. :facepalm

[Gifted Mind]

Yes, 80% is nearly 100%, as opposed to the less than 5% that was being talked about before.

I also said "about 80%", not "exactly 80%". The exact percent is 79.16% if you want to be that nitpicky about it.

FYI, thus far you have posted zero statistical numbers to disprove me, and failed logically in every single point you tried to make, including a massive failure in the reading comprehension department.




Where did you get 79.16%? I'm in for 1 more laugh. Don't tell me out of your ass.

[SinJackal]

Where did you get 79.16%? I'm in for 1 more laugh. Don't tell me out of your ass.

Actually, I just used an odds calculator online for that one. Since it was from a non repuatable site, I removed the 79.16% after posting that.

Since that's supposedly wrong, why don't you enlighten us as to what it really is?

[Stinky Dog]

are you guys like really trying to correct his math and shit?...come on now...:lol
pt - what do you think would happen if you fought the sin jackal?

Modern boxing gloves were developed to protect the hands of the striker during a bout (as opposed to the ancient cestus, developed as a weapon), though specialised gloves are now available for competitions, sparring practice and other types of training.

couldn't be any clearer really: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_glove

they do also help protect your face but they were created and designed to prevent damage and injuries to your hands first and foremost. a goddamn hurt hand is called boxers fracture due to how common it is.

[-playmaker-]

jACkaL KilLEr oF GOdZZZ

The champ is here. 22-2 in live street fights. His only two losses coming via gang jumping. Has punched walls made of concrete and hardly flinched.

THE SIN JACKAL

Capable of "building up a resistance to damage and pain"...

THE SIN JACKAL

"Has punched people on at least 20 occasions"

THE SIN JACKAL
I read that with that movie trailer dude's voice...

[Stinky Dog]

Thank you, that's exactly the point I was trying to make. Word for word.

They're just trying to twist shit around to "prove me wrong", when they don't even know how often it even happens. :facepalm
No, we're just calling you out because you're a moron, chump, and a fraud.

[Gifted Mind]

Actually, I just used an odds calculator online for that one. Since it was from a non repuatable site, I removed the 79.16% after posting that.

Since that's supposedly wrong, why don't you enlighten us as to what it really is?


I am not surprised you are not smart enough to figure that one out on your own. And the correct probability is precisely 68.36%. Is that nearly 100% too? :lol


I don't mean to be rude. But maybe next time you should not tell other people they are stupid and suck at numbers when you can't do a basic probability calculation for yourself.

[SinJackal]

No, we're just calling you out because you're a moron, chump, and a fraud.

None of you have disproved my point, and therefore you haven't called anything out.

[-playmaker-]

pt - what do you think would happen if you fought the sin jackal?

Modern boxing gloves were developed to protect the hands of the striker during a bout (as opposed to the ancient cestus, developed as a weapon), though specialised gloves are now available for competitions, sparring practice and other types of training.

couldn't be any clearer really: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_glove

they do also help protect your face but they were created and designed to prevent damage and injuries to your hands first and foremost. a goddamn hurt hand is called boxers fracture due to how common it is.
that is intersting...didn't know


The use of modern boxing gloves typically results in fewer superficial facial injuries but greater brain damage to participants.

^^^ that is interesting too...



If I got in a fight with the jackle he would punch me...


http://www.thundersquee.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/teachers-head-explodes-300x258.jpg


^^^ me after one of his punches

[Eggy]

I am not surprised you are not smart enough to figure that one out on your own. And the correct probability is precisely 68.36%. Is that nearly 100% too? :lol


I don't mean to be rude. But maybe next time you should not tell other people they are stupid and suck at numbers when you can't do a basic probability calculation for yourself.
he likes to argue with semantics when he's wrong.:oldlol:

[Gifted Mind]

he likes to argue with semantics when he's wrong.:oldlol:

And then says by nearly 100%, he meant 80%. And blames the other for having bad reading comprehension. Furthermore, the 80% he got was not from himself since he doesn't know math, but from a different website, which was yet still the wrong answer. :facepalm

What's worse, if it can get any worse, this while thread he has been proven wrong yet he is still arguing.

[Eggy]

I would still like to know how sinjackal got the figure "less than5%."

[SinJackal]

And then says by nearly 100%, he meant 80%. And blames the other for having bad reading comprehension. Furthermore, the 80% he got was not from himself since he doesn't know math, but from a different website, which was yet still the wrong answer. :facepalm

What's worse, if it can get any worse, this while thread he has been proven wrong yet he is still arguing.

I haven't been proven wrong AT ALL. All you have done was attack my miscalculation of hypothetical odds when trying to put something into perspective for someone when asking them to tell me what they thought the odds of a hand breakage was when throwing a punch.

My original point remains untouched. All you can do is argue semantics about a hypotehtical calculation that had nothing to do with my main point, to take attention away from the real point I did make. Pathetic debate skills.


I would still like to know how sinjackal got the figure "less than5%?"

Already been explained to you.

I'm still waiting for you to give me odds that are different from mine, since you think mine are so wrong.

[-playmaker-]

I suddenly wish boxing gloves were now removed from the sport and replaced with something closer to MMA gloves...

the brain damage caused by the constant pounding is much worse than damaged hands...

seriously...

the sport should evolve back to something closer to bare knuckle...

[Gifted Mind]

I haven't been proven wrong AT ALL. All you have done was attack my miscalculation of hypothetical odds when trying to put something into perspective for someone when asking them to tell me what they thought the odds of a hand breakage was when throwing a punch.



Hey at least he admit he had a major miscalculation. Thus, you were wrong. Just don't tell other people to use logic and tell them they suck at numbers when you have these miscalculation moments because you can't do basic probability.

My job is done here.

[Eggy]

I haven't been proven wrong AT ALL. All you have done was attack my miscalculation of hypothetical odds when trying to put something into perspective for someone when asking them to tell me what they thought the odds of a hand breakage was when throwing a punch.

My original point remains untouched. All you can do is argue semantics about a hypotehtical calculation that had nothing to do with my main point, to take attention away from the real point I did make. Pathetic debate skills.



Already been explained to you.

I'm still waiting for you to give me odds that are different from mine, since you think mine are so wrong.
So personal estimation is your source for that figure?

[SinJackal]

Hey at least he admit he had a major miscalculation. Thus, you were wrong. Just don't tell other people to use logic and tell them they suck at numbers when you have these miscalculation moments.

My job is done here.

At least your job isn't to teach reading comprehension skills which you apparently fail massively at, or how to debate a point rather than nitpick a few irrelevant sentences,


So personal estimation is your source for that figure?

Yes. Personal experience, and what I have observed from others doing it in front of me. As playmaker also pointed out, I have never experienced or seen a hand breakage. And therefore my estimation is that it is likely less than 5%, as I have never seen a hand breakage in over hundreds of punches thrown and landed.

I never once said it was impossible to break a hand, and would never think it was. I've heard about it, read about it, and seen it on tv and youtube vids.

[Sarcastic]

If you can get a straight shot into the nose, and only punch flesh + cartilage, then your hand probably won't hurt. If you connect with any type of bone, your hand might not hurt at that exact moment, but it will hurt the next day.

[Gifted Mind]

At least your job isn't to teach reading comprehension skills which you apparently fail massively at, or how to debate a point rather than nitpick a few irrelevant sentences,


Yes I don't teach reading comprehension skills. But see I don't go around making fun of other people's reading comprehension skills when I make an error myself. That's what you did with numbers. And that's why you're a prick.

Good Night



PS: PM me if you'd like to know how to do the actual probability calculation.

[SinJackal]

Yes I don't teach reading comprehension skills. But see I don't go around making fun of other people's reading comprehension skills when I make an error myself. That's what you did with numbers. And that's why you're a prick.

Good Night



PS: PM me if you'd like to know how to do the actual probability calculation.

You may not go around making fun of other people's reading comprehension skills when you make an error yourself, but you make fun of other people's odds calculations when you make an error yourself. :facepalm Same difference, hypocrite.

[Sarcastic]

All it takes to hurt your hand is 1 punch. It's not a cumulative effect thing. If you punch hard enough, you can definitely **** up your hand/wrist with 1 punch.

With that said, the damage you can do to someone's face can be pretty intense too, so it usually is worth it.

[macmac]

LOL this thread has been classic...a nice cap off to my night...

I usually punch people in the eye...wow that is pure inadvertent comedy at its finest.

[pete's montreux]

I have literally never seen anyone talk out of their ass as much as this kid has. In real life or online.

Anyone, ANYONE who's ever been in a fight in their life where you hand has connected cleanly with someone's face/head/jaw/whatever knows that shit hurts. I've had two people break their hands on my face and head.

SinJackal, you've never been in a fight in your life. Ever. You've never raised your hand in anger towards anyone in 25 years.

[EarlTheGoat]

I have literally never seen anyone talk out of their ass as much as this kid has. In real life or online.

Anyone, ANYONE who's ever been in a fight in their life where you hand has connected cleanly with someone's face/head/jaw/whatever knows that shit hurts. I've had two people break their hands on my face and head.

SinJackal, you've never been in a fight in your life. Ever. You've never raised your hand in anger towards anyone in 25 years.


I dont like this fat-ass, but I agree with him this time.

[Jailblazers7]

hold up hold up hold up... did someone just have their toughness called into question... then have a picture requested to determine whether or not said person looked tough... then have him post a myspace photo album consisting of the following 6 pictures?

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2848/sinjackal1.jpg
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/7333/sinjackal2.jpg
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8898/sinjackal3.jpg
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2355/sinjackal4.jpg
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/4075/sinjackal5.jpg
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9994/sinjackal6.jpg

:roll:

[Hawker]

Nice jean jacket.

[Lebowsky]

Only Zelenoff can put an end to this argument.

[wang4three]

I've gotten into fights on the basketball court, mainly cause I have some very short-tempered friends. I used to think they were justified, but looking back, it was all just dumb. Some of them are still short-tempered and quick to throw punches, but these days I play as a diffuser and try to stop it. I've also played ball with them less because honestly getting heated over a pick up game is just stupid.

There was one time I started a fight though. A friend of mine took advantage of my girlfriend while I was away on study abroad. She was drunk. When I came back I broke his nose. Not really proud of what I've did, but I don't regret it.

[Andrei89]

Hand hurts for sure

Worst fight i have ever been is when i punched a guy 3 times in the face. Broke his nose, had a black eye and split lip. I am pretty thin and don't have big hands so i don't realise how i had done so much damage.

guy was much bigger so i was scared shitless for his comeback the next time he sees me. Turned out to be a wuss who turned me over to the police.

You won't feel your hand at the moment but sure it hurts after 1 hour.

Got a few more fights but never punched somebody as bad as i punched this guy.

Got my ass badly kicked once by 4 dudes. They rammed me hard. Adrenaline kicks in you won't really feel any pain at that moment. But ow shit son getting punched from all sides and realising they won't stop till u down it's terrifying

Would i do it again? I hope it never comes to that. Do i regret owning that idiot. Never for what he did

[JohnWall2]

Hand hurts for sure

Worst fight i have ever been is when i punched a guy 3 times in the face. Broke his nose, had a black eye and split lip. I am pretty thin and don't have big hands so i don't realise how i had done so much damage.

guy was much bigger so i was scared shitless for his comeback the next time he sees me. Turned out to be a wuss who turned me over to the police.

You won't feel your hand at the moment but sure it hurts after 1 hour.

Got a few more fights but never punched somebody as bad as i punched this guy.

Got my ass badly kicked once by 4 dudes. They rammed me hard. Adrenaline kicks in you won't really feel any pain at that moment. But ow shit son getting punched from all sides and realising they won't stop till u down it's terrifying

Would i do it again? I hope it never comes to that. Do i regret owning that idiot. Never for what he did

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4076/032dbf0f468766335511e60.gif

[LilKateMoss]

http://i51.tinypic.com/mcvuon.gif

[dwight20-20]

Would i do it again? I hope it never comes to that. Do i regret owning that idiot. Never for what he did

what did he do if you don't mind me asking?

[DonDadda59]

:roll:

The comedy in this thread. Thank you, SinJackal. Nice Jacket btw- it says 'yeah, I don't have sleeves, that's just how badass I am... what of it?':oldlol:

And yeah, punching someone's skull with force is a good way to injure/fracture/break your hand. This isn't really a point for debate, unless of course you're a Super Saiyan level 4

:lol

[Andrei89]

what did he do if you don't mind me asking?

Grabbed my GF's ass and then when she tried to get away he grabbed her by her hand so hard she fell on the ground.

I think that's as far as he can remember

[gts]

http://i51.tinypic.com/mcvuon.gifi watch this and i can imagine howard cossell

"down goes frieda, down goes frieda"

[bada bing]

haven't gotten into a fight since highschool.

however there are few people in this site who i would love to punch in the face more than once.

[bada bing]

http://i51.tinypic.com/mcvuon.gif

where is this from?

[code green]

where is this from?

notsureifsrs...Jersey Shore


And this thread is why I always aim for the nose or cheekbone if i'm in a fight.

[LA_Showtime]

I've been in one fight. He got a black eye, while my hand broke. Basically we both lost.

[-playmaker-]

Marlo was banned for this huh?

he did go a bit nuts posting the dude's pics...



he needs to be unbanned for NFL Sunday though...that's all

[Sarcastic]

where is this from?

Jersey Shore, season 1.

[SinJackal]

I have literally never seen anyone talk out of their ass as much as this kid has. In real life or online.

Anyone, ANYONE who's ever been in a fight in their life where you hand has connected cleanly with someone's face/head/jaw/whatever knows that shit hurts. I've had two people break their hands on my face and head.

SinJackal, you've never been in a fight in your life. Ever. You've never raised your hand in anger towards anyone in 25 years.

:facepalm I didn't say it doesn't hurt, I said it doesn't hurt that much.

The point I was making is that hands don't break by punching as often as the people on here were trying to make it out to be. I wasn't saying that it never hurts and you can never break your hand. Stop acting like I did.

I've been in, and seen plenty of fights irl. Not one person that I have witnessed fighting has ever broken their hand during a fight. I have only hurt my hand a few times in the process. I cut my knuckles on someone's teeth on two occaisions (and not very badly either time), and my ring finger knuckle was sore for a few of days another time. That was it. Zero breakages. A sore knuckle was the worst thing to ever happen to me.

You can pretend you're some kind of psychic diviner and guess what I've done in my life if you want, but you did a shitty job of guessing and were dead wrong, so I wouldn't make a career of that if I were you.

Anyone who's been in more than one or two fights in their life knows it doesn't hurt that much when you punch someone. You, ESPECIALLY you, and some of the other posters that are getting up in arms over this have very little, if any fight experience, and are making assumptions that it just must hurt since it hurt really badly for you the one or two times you did it. If you punched someone once and broke your hand, sorry. That doesn't happen to everyone. Didn't happen to me, didn't happen to anyone I know.

I've already made this point before. Not everyone has the same pain tolerance. Not everyone has the same punching skill. Not everyone has the same bone strength. All of these are factors for whether your hand will hurt, or break after punching someone. It's silly to assume everyone has the same hands and skills, and that everyone who punches is going to severely hurt their hands and possibly break them.







This thread is like some kind of embarrassing intervention to the world to never punch people because of the dangers of it! Omg! You'll break your hand or it'll hurt SOOOOOOO much if you punch someone! So don't do it!!!

That's what you kids keep saying, and it's embarrassing. Don't fight then. Never fight for the rest of your life like you've never or barely been doing already. I don't care. Just stop acting like you have some massive experience on the subject and have been in many fights and "know this for sure", because you guys clearly don't.

Breaking a hand happens, but doesn't happen very often. It hurts, but it doesn't hurt very much (usually) if you punch properly. End of story.

[dwight20-20]

Just got back from the hospital.
It's a funny story.

Went to grab some lunch with my friends today. This one kid has been annoying the shit out of me lately and that continued today. I'm trying to stay calm and not blow up on him. He ate a few of my fries without asking which is like a big hell no. But not bad enough to warrant a punch to the face. Then when I got up from my chair he pantsed me, boxers and all, for the whole damn place to see. I thought "this is my moment." I pulled my pants up and decked him right in the eye. Broken hand. Thanks a lot SinJackal.

[niko]

I have never punched someone in the face. I have hit several people with a pipe though, but that was justified (about 20 kids jumped one of my students (he was 15, i was like 23) and i tried to get them off and could not and they were pretty much going to kill him so i got a pipe from my car (the pipe i use to make the wrench for the wheels work with leverage) and hit the first few people i could until they scattered, threw him in the car, and took off like hell.

ive never had a 1 on 1 fight, ive been jumped badly (when i was young) and i was in a huge skirmish in a club in england (ridiculous) but never threw punches really. Weird...

[Lamar Doom]

hold up hold up hold up... did someone just have their toughness called into question... then have a picture requested to determine whether or not said person looked tough... then have him post a myspace photo album consisting of the following 6 pictures?

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2848/sinjackal1.jpg
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/7333/sinjackal2.jpg
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8898/sinjackal3.jpg
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2355/sinjackal4.jpg
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/4075/sinjackal5.jpg
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9994/sinjackal6.jpg

most of the time I want it to be a joke, this time I want it to be for real.

[Sarcastic]

BODY SHOTS.
If you can hit someone in the stomach and wind them, I guarantee you they will go down faster than a head shot, and they won't get up for a good minute. The chances of hurting your hand are much lower when striking the body too. You can still sprain your wrist, but you probably won't break a bone.

Gonna wait for SinJackal to refute this, and tell me he can take shots to the stomach all day long.

[SinJackal]

Just got back from the hospital.
It's a funny story.

Went to grab some lunch with my friends today. This one kid has been annoying the shit out of me lately and that continued today. I'm trying to stay calm and not blow up on him. He ate a few of my fries without asking which is like a big hell no. But not bad enough to warrant a punch to the face. Then when I got up from my chair he pantsed me, boxers and all, for the whole damn place to see. I thought "this is my moment." I pulled my pants up and decked him right in the eye. Broken hand. Thanks a lot SinJackal.

Pics or it didn't happen. I call bs.



BODY SHOTS.
If you can hit someone in the stomach and wind them, I guarantee you they will go down faster than a head shot, and they won't get up for a good minute. The chances of hurting your hand are much lower when striking the body too. You can still sprain your wrist, but you probably won't break a bone.

Gonna wait for SinJackal to refute this, and tell me he can take shots to the stomach all day long.

I haven't been hit in the stomach since my brother when I was like a kid. I can probably take a few to the abs (had friends punch eachother there to see if they could take it, wasn't too bad), but I've never been hit there in fights, so I can't really speak on how much it hurts during a fight, or if I could take a lot of shots there.

I disagree that people go down faster from body shots than head shots though. The shock factor of getting slammed in the head with a heavy punch can make people buckle and give up without a full fight. The damage to the face is also much larger than to the stomach. I do agree that you can wind someone easily if you hit them in the stomach when they don't expect it. Very easily. But that's cheap shotting. As you go for someone's body, they can be hitting you in the face easily, getting the better of the exchange.

[Jailblazers7]

Pics or it didn't happen. I call bs.

So your the one claiming you've been in 20 street fights, witness at least 40 others, and you can punch a wall without it hurting your hand but for everyone else it the good old 'pics or it didn't happen.'

[SinJackal]

So your the one claiming you've been in 20 street fights, witness at least 40 others, and you can punch a wall without it hurting your hand but for everyone else it the good old 'pics or it didn't happen.'

For him to have magically broken his hand less than 24 hours after refuting a post, yes I would ask for pics, since he would physically be able to provide a pic if asked, whereas I cannot provide "pics" of fights from 10 years ago. I don't have a time machine.

Way to generalize though. :facepalm

[Sarcastic]

I haven't been hit in the stomach since my brother when I was like a kid. I can probably take a few to the abs (had friends punch eachother there to see if they could take it, wasn't too bad), but I've never been hit there in fights, so I can't really speak on how much it hurts during a fight, or if I could take a lot of shots there.

I disagree that people go down faster from body shots than head shots though. The shock factor of getting slammed in the head with a heavy punch can make people buckle and give up without a full fight. The damage to the face is also much larger than to the stomach. I do agree that you can wind someone easily if you hit them in the stomach when they don't expect it. Very easily. But that's cheap shotting. As you go for someone's body, they can be hitting you in the face easily, getting the better of the exchange.

I am not talking about blind sucker shots to the head. On those, you can drop someone fast. I am talking about face to face, put your hands up fighting. Most people don't have the abdominal strength to absorb a good body shot, and most people are not expecting it. On face to face fights, it's a good idea to try to get a good body shot first if you know how to do it. If you can get them winded, they will be gasping for air, and will be fall over like a sack of bricks.

I have been hit in the face, and never been knocked out. I have been knocked down, but not unconscious. I got right back up each time.
I have also been hit in the stomach and winded, and was not able to move for about a minute.

[SinJackal]

I am not talking about blind sucker shots to the head. On those, you can drop someone fast. I am talking about face to face, put your hands up fighting. Most people don't have the abdominal strength to absorb a good body shot, and most people are not expecting it. On face to face fights, it's a good idea to try to get a good body shot first if you know how to do it. If you can get them winded, they will be gasping for air, and will be fall over like a sack of bricks.

I wasn't talking about blind shots to the head either. I was talking about blind shots to the stomach, saying that I agree 100% that you can put someone down with a sucker punch gut shot. I thought I made that clear.

Going to the body first is a good way to go about fights you can't avoid, so long as you're very careful not to take shots to the head while you're doing it. Most people go to the head first, and only. So I can agree with your tactics. Doesn't always go as planned, but it's certainly not a bad idea.

[Sarcastic]

I wasn't talking about blind shots to the head either. I was talking about blind shots to the stomach, saying that I agree 100% that you can put someone down with a sucker punch gut shot. I thought I made that clear.

Going to the body first is a good way to go about fights you can't avoid, so long as you're very careful not to take shots to the head while you're doing it. Most people go to the head first, and only. So I can agree with your tactics. Doesn't always go as planned, but it's certainly not a bad idea.

Guard your face with your off hand, put your head down, and go straight for the stomach with your main hand with all your force. If the person will lowers his guard to protect the body, and his face becomes open for a quick left hook.

[Jailblazers7]

For him to have magically broken his hand less than 24 hours after refuting a post, yes I would ask for pics, since he would physically be able to provide a pic if asked, whereas I cannot provide "pics" of fights from 10 years ago. I don't have a time machine.

Way to generalize though. :facepalm

Post a video of you punching a brick wall. You wont need a time machine for that.

[dwight20-20]

A. I never refuted your post
B. I will get a pic up
C. Typing with one hand is hard

[oh the horror]

Not only have I punched people in the face before, but I'd do it again....to EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD.


One punch knockouts all the way around. You all could get in line, and then DING....one goes down, and the next guy steps up, and DING, another goes down. We could pile you fu*kers up in a corner after im done with you.



I tell you kids what....if you wanna step up, I'd just take you, and raise you up, and snap you in half


http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1/19739/762482-bane_breaks_batman_497pg21_super.png



And then while you're on the ground, I'd stomp on your fragile little spines, while you scream out for your mommy, but guess what buddies? She cant HELP YOU.



Im JUST sayin'

[Timmy D for MVP]

****... I haven't.

There have been many candidates though...

[oh the horror]

Honestly though, I've had numerous fights growing up. Ive had my teeth smashed out of my mouth with a metal pipe, and my arm fractured. I now have implanted false front teeth which you wouldnt be able to tell, unless i showed you up close, and a metal plate in my left arm.....These days, im more chill, and relaxed. Fighting like that is not pleasant, and frankly now that im almost 30, I hope to not get into anymore unpleasantness like that for the rest of my life.

[InspiredLebowski]

PT's head exploding after a SinJackal punch had be rolling

[Lebron23]

http://www.doodstormer.zoomshare.com/files/over9000ry4.jpg

It's over 9,000.

[JtotheIzzo]

I used to be a bouncer, so I have seen first hand what drunk punch ups (most of the time you are gully enough to fight is when drunk) end up looking like.

It is a f*cking mess, broken hands, gaping gashes, a f*cking nightmare. A saw the aftermath of a guy I know get bottled by two guys to within an inch of his life, they smashed him with bottles then started stabbing the back of his head and his back while he turtled.

Fighting is for losers, and I am f*cking glad I don't bounce anymore with all the amateur MMA douchebags running around in Affliction gear looking to take their misplaced aggression out on someone. It isn't the 6'5" bouncer you need to worry about it is the 5'9" guy with the tats and the sparkly shirt.

As for punching, last time I threw down I got a 'boxer's break' on my left hand (that is breaking the bone that goes from your pinky's knuckle to the wrist).

If you are a tall guy (I am 6'5") it is best to go with the double-N theory of fighting. that is go at your adversary's Neck and Nuts, with the occasional kick to the shins. Keep your hands healthy and only punch when needed. In close use elbows.

[Hawker]

el oh ****ing el

[Eat Like A Bosh]

Yes in my Freshman year.
It was in a fight, he punched me first, so I punched him back. However he landed 3 punches on me and ran away. I got up and was just fine.

Nowadays I wouldn't just punch them in the face. I would pin them down to the ground with wrestling moves, and while they are immobilized, then I punch them. That's a better way to fight.

[AirTupac]

Yes. Also about a year ago me and my friend got in a fight and he punched me in the head, i punched him back and stuff but he walked away right after and it turned out that he broke his hand. Talk about being hard headed. :oldlol:

[Godzuki]

yeah but i hit like a girl and it just makes them madder before they beat me up.

[alenleomessi]

yeah bunch of times.... in 3rd grade

[Crown&Coke]

I used to get my ass whooped back in H.S.

I had two older sisters who often dated douches, and when something happened I was always trying to do something about it. It normally ended up with my getting beat up but I always made sure they got the point, don't F with me and mine.

One time especially, I was in Spanish class with this dude who dated my sis and he was going around talking smack, he was a junior and I was a freshman. I walked to class with a slushie, confronted him outside of class, he didn't say he didn't do it, so I threw the slushie in his face and got 'em a few times. He swung back wildly but fortunately I was quick enough to move out of the way. The Spanish teacher was an ex-cop so he pretty much just grabbed me by my shirt and lifted me up :lol

I was real proud that day. That chump was pretty busted up and the red slushie al over him made it look like he was bleeding all over the place. I didn't realize until that night that I had a knot on my head, from how, I have no idea. My hands hurt a little but nothing major

[Draz]

Nah. I'm a pretty chill guy to be around, I don't think anyone would want to fight me but I'm always around my dudes who are like 7-10 years older then me no one would start shit, plus I'm not tryna get a record against me.

[kingmob]

If you don't know how to punch, breaking your wrist or a wrong knuckle is very easy. My buddy broke one of the bones in his hand 3 times fighting, and had a metal pin in his hand for a year because he didn't know how to punch properly.

I studied karate for many years, and you learn to punch with your first 2 knuckles only. Those are the largest and hardest knuckles, and you always want to connect with them, otherwise you stand to hurt your hand. Most bareknuckle fighters do push ups on those knuckles and they eventually kinda grow together. I've done it myself when I was a teenager.

I don't like violence either and hopefully fighting is done with. With that said, I was in a fight about 4 years ago that ended going to 3 day trial over a fight. Some douche was touching up on my girl, and the fight broke out. My buddy coincidentally got into a fight with this guy, while i was being restrained. I went outside to wait for the girls to pull the car out of a parking lot(which was adjacent to the club we were at), and the bouncer was talking mad shit to me after escorting me outside.

Honestly, I was about done with the whole ordeal and wanted to get the **** out of there, but the dude kept pressing and I got into a heated word exchange with him. His Manager/Main bouncer gave him a go ahead to attack me, I shit you not, and I had no choice than to brawl. Now, I was wasted, so there was very little fear in me - the guy was about 6'4 and 250, easily. I'm 6'1 and 195. He charged me with a kick and punch, and very calmly avoided them, and just loaded up on a mean 2 knuckle punch straight into left side of his face. Dude was instantly on his knees, blood all over the place, he wasn't moving much(later found out that his left ear was almost detached, he had to get 25 stiches to get it right). I could have put an exclamation point right there with a knee to the face, but I bolted instead, as I knew this wasn't a very good turn of events.

Next thing I know i found the girl driver, got into the car, and I'm telling her to pull out as the cops are coming. But the stubborn ***** wouldn't go. What a stupid hoe. 5 min later cops are knocking on the window and arresting me and my buddy. My buddy got lucky, as he had a bloody nose, and they just let him go, and charged me with both fights, which was a bunch of bullshit. I went to court with this, and actually had a 2.5 day trial over 2 fights, and made the prosecutor very mad in the process :) But both charges were dropped:cheers:

[nightprowler10]

Never have. Never had a reason to. Only fights I ever got in to were back elementary school, when it would be me against 5 guys trying to take my lunch money. I was always one of those "you want my money you'll have to take it from me" idiots. I always got my ass whupped and lost my money, but never just handed it over. Anyway, even then I was more about the sweep kick and knocking them over rather than punching them.

During my teenage years and even adulthood, I've always had the persona that people don't usually wanna **** with me, either because I come off as a cool, stoic guy or because I had friends who were future marines. :lol

[Lebron23]

Alamo is probably the reincarnation of Sin Jackal. He's a Spurs and a Bulls fan.

[Smoke117]

Yes and was it worth it? Not really. My brother lowered his face down (and is short anyway) and i ended up punching him in the forehead instead of the jaw and my left hand hasn't been the same since.

[Faptastrophe]

I was in 9th grade, this kid and I never liked each other for some reason, and leaving school he bumped into me and we decided to throw down after we got off the bus. It lasted about three seconds, he punched me, I punched him, he fell and I pounced on his ass and got him in a headlock. I immediately started crying for no reason whatsoever, and my neighbor drove by in her minivan and took me home.

[Sarcastic]

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