Fastest NBA Player Ever?

[no pun intended]

Discuss.

[G.O.A.T]

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Kevin Duckworth

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Fat Lever...

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This topic sucks now...

[magnax1]

Probably AI

[no pun intended]

Is Devin Harris as fast as people say? I heard he has fantastic lane agility. How would you compare him to Ellis and Rose?

[magnax1]

Hes probably a bit faster then rose. I haven't watched a whole lot of ellis, so i don't know about him.

[chazzy]

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Kevin Duckworth

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:oldlol:

[jlauber]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Paex9-VxPbA

[DuMa]

Lebron

[magnax1]

Have to be first, I love this topic

Kevin Duckworth

Oliver Miller

Beniot Benjamin

Wayne Embry

Fat Lever...

I didn't see the "s"

This topic sucks now...
You left off Barkley too....
:lol

[theaussieguy]

Rondo is the undisputed fastest man in the league

[Go Getter]

Rose

[DixieNourmous]

Nick "The Quick" Van Axel

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[Sarcastic]

Nick "The Quick" Van Axel

http://nickcoman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/act_nick_van_exel.jpghttp://www.sculu.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/a06b8_vanexel9495ultra.jpg

He didn't get the nickname "The Quick" because of his running speed.

[DCL]

it probably ain't a white dude

[plowking]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuwIlcVsHmU&feature=related

And today, end to end, I think Lebron tops anyone. I think he's slightly faster than MJ end to end.

[DixieNourmous]

He didn't get the nickname "The Quick" because of his running speed.

Court is only 94 feet long....
Speed and Quick are relatively the same thing in a small space but quick would be faster.:lol
Quick counts in 94 feet :cheers:

[Sarcastic]

Court is only 94 feet long....

Quick counts in a 94` :cheers:

He was "quick" to pull the trigger on his shot.

[Disaprine]

it probably ain't a white dude
:lol

[hateraid]

Depends on the definition of fast. Lateral speed with the ball I'd say AI or Isiah. Downcourt speed I'm thinking Lebron James.

[Round Mound]

With the ball on fast break

Barkley
Dr J
Jordan (one of the quickest too)
Drexler
Lebron

Without the ball

Karl Malone


Iverson was one of the quickest but in terms of fast = potent too not so much

[hateraid]

Another guy I remember who had ridiculous downcourt speed with the ball was Eddie Jones. Chucky Atkins was pretty fast in his prime too.

[theaussieguy]

ummm its Rondo, he is the quickest with and without the ball,

[Sarcastic]

Muggsy Bogues was fast as hell.

[G.O.A.T]

You left off Barkley too....
:lol

He wasn't Fat in the NBA

At Auburn, Fat.

On TNT, Real Fat.

NBA BREAKDOWN

SIXERS: CHISELED

SUNS: Pudgy, but Strong

ROCKETS: Big Boned or Husky

[magnax1]

He wasn't Fat in the NBA

At Auburn, Fat.

On TNT, Real Fat.

NBA BREAKDOWN

SIXERS: CHISELED

SUNS: Pudgy, but Strong

ROCKETS: Big Boned or Husky
He was pretty fat for a while in Houston, not in Philly or Phoenix, but he definitely had a belly and some flab in Houston.

[Round Mound]

He wasn't Fat in the NBA

At Auburn, Fat.

On TNT, Real Fat.

NBA BREAKDOWN

SIXERS: CHISELED

SUNS: Pudgy, but Strong

ROCKETS: Big Boned or Husky

Cool resume but dam could he run even at this weight (some say 310 lbs)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz6DaYCnxpU

0:50 to 0:59

You are not suppose to be that fast, quick and a leaper with that overwieght on u. Not normal.

Now this is insane (but closer to ideal wieght)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWldMhxzvdM

[plowking]

ummm its Rondo, he is the quickest with and without the ball,

Lebron disagreed strongly when he chased him down, caught up and smacked his shit off the glass. Not once, but twice.

[theaussieguy]

Cool resume but dam could he run even at this weight (some say 310 lbs)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz6DaYCnxpU

0:50 to 0:59

You are not suppose to be that fast, quick and a leaper with that overwieght on u. Not normal.

Now this is insane (but closer to ideal wieght)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWldMhxzvdM


jesus that is quick, but Rondo thinks he can beat Chris Johnson in a race therefore he must be the fastest cos my mum said so and mums know everything and my mum would never lie to me

[theaussieguy]

Lebron disagreed strongly when he chased him down, caught up and smacked his shit off the glass. Not once, but twice.

lol cmon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF7nSC8vgWI


Look when they are running they are more or less at the same spot on the floor. Its not indicative of Lebron being able to run faster but more indicative of his freakish natural leaping ability. Not to say he isn't faster than him but im a Rondo homer and would really love it if he was the fastest.

[whatever666]

If you were going for quickness, I'd say Ty Lawson. That dude is like a squirrel on crack.

If you were going for the fastest player, as in top speed, its pretty obvious... its Lebron. Nobody covers more ground in such a short amount of time. There is a reason he can sprint down anybody, whenever he wish...

And one of the reasons is for example Lebrons 40-yard-dash time... it was measured 4.3-4.4 seconds at the combine, thats when he was 17-18, he probably is a bit faster now... the world record is 4.24 seconds.... think about that... The fastest widerecievers like Reggie Bush, Justin Gaitlin ran also 4.3 seconds.... The best widereciever today (Larry Fitzgerald) ran 4.5 seconds.... Steve Smith (what many say was the fastest) ran 4.4 seconds...... just something to think about... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40-yard_dash

Its extremly doubtful anybody in the NBA is faster than that.... as also evident in many videos of Lebrons in Youtube for example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNaLIhzSYDI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyBT7xEdnAw

[Patrick Chewing]

Harris or Rose in today's NBA

[Sarcastic]

Rose

Jalen Rose was not that fast.

[whatever666]

Harris or Rose in today's NBA

Seen Lebron?

[griffmoney2084]

if someone made a thread about who was the tallest player ever



somehow jordan fans would say MJ is one of them


jesus christ jordan isnt even one of the top 100 fastest players ever


theres a bunch of PG's who would beat him in a race

[JoshCoward]

I'm surprised prime Jason Kidd wasn't mentioned. One of the fastest player with the ball when he was young.

[griffmoney2084]

Seen Lebron?


hes the fasted 6 foot 8 player i ever seen


but again just like jordan fans... just stop already

[plowking]

If you were going for quickness, I'd say Ty Lawson. That dude is like a squirrel on crack.

If you were going for the fastest player, as in top speed, its pretty obvious... its Lebron. Nobody covers more ground in such a short amount of time. There is a reason he can sprint down anybody, whenever he wish...

And one of the reasons is for example Lebrons 40-yard-dash time... it was measured 4.3-4.4 seconds at the combine, thats when he was 17-18, he probably is a bit faster now... the world record is 4.24 seconds.... think about that... The fastest widerecievers like Reggie Bush, Justin Gaitlin ran also 4.3 seconds.... The best widereciever today (Larry Fitzgerald) ran 4.5 seconds.... Steve Smith (what many say was the fastest) ran 4.4 seconds...... just something to think about... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40-yard_dash

Its extremly doubtful anybody in the NBA is faster than that.... as also evident in many videos of Lebrons in Youtube for example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNaLIhzSYDI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyBT7xEdnAw
:oldlol:

Get off it dude. 4.24 being the world record? That's the fastest time in the NFL with the introduction of electronic timing.

[plowking]

if someone made a thread about who was the tallest player ever



somehow jordan fans would say MJ is one of them


jesus christ jordan isnt even one of the top 100 fastest players ever


theres a bunch of PG's who would beat him in a race
:roll: :roll:

[griffmoney2084]

:roll: :roll:

:roll: :roll:

[plowking]

:roll: :roll:

How much does it pain you that Jordan is better at just about everything compared to Kobe?

Clearly a lot.

[Dwade305]

Iverson is the quickest ever with a basketball.

As far as speed up and down the court, who the **** cares. It so close that it can be anyone of 30 players mentioned already.

[jlauber]

If you were going for quickness, I'd say Ty Lawson. That dude is like a squirrel on crack.

If you were going for the fastest player, as in top speed, its pretty obvious... its Lebron. Nobody covers more ground in such a short amount of time. There is a reason he can sprint down anybody, whenever he wish...

And one of the reasons is for example Lebrons 40-yard-dash time... it was measured 4.3-4.4 seconds at the combine, thats when he was 17-18, he probably is a bit faster now... the world record is 4.24 seconds.... think about that... The fastest widerecievers like Reggie Bush, Justin Gaitlin ran also 4.3 seconds.... The best widereciever today (Larry Fitzgerald) ran 4.5 seconds.... Steve Smith (what many say was the fastest) ran 4.4 seconds...... just something to think about... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40-yard_dash

Its extremly doubtful anybody in the NBA is faster than that.... as also evident in many videos of Lebrons in Youtube for example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNaLIhzSYDI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyBT7xEdnAw

Just curious, and not questioning you, but do you have a link which confirms Lebron running a 4.3? That is Reggie Bush fast. BTW, and take it for whatever it is worth, but Wilt, himself, said he ran a 4.4. There are links that claim he ran a 10.9 100 yard dash in high school, but that is hard to believe, since he was on KU's 4x100 relay team, which included Ernie Shelby, who ran a 9.3. Wilt claims that Shelby was the only guy that could beat him. He also claims that he beat Jim Brown in a race at a party, in which there were supposedly some witnesses. I believe Brown was clocked at around 9.6 in the 100 yard dash.

[griffmoney2084]

How much does it pain you that Jordan is better at just about everything compared to Kobe?

Clearly a lot.


what? lool


kobes a better ball handler, play maker, passer, mid range shooter, three point shooter, off hand,

only thing jordan does slightly better is dunk and defend

and its not like hes even that much worse at either, hes a dunk champion and 8 time 1st team all defense


all jordan has on kobe is accomplishments. ( which are important dont get me wrong )


kobe might not have a better career. but hes mastered the game unlike jordan

jordan sucked at shooting for most of his career.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5XOnpCBdiA

:roll:

how old was he in 1990? 27?


kobe was draining 40 footers with ease by age 23

[plowking]

Just curious, and not questioning you, but do you have a link which confirms Lebron running a 4.3? That is Reggie Bush fast. BTW, and take it for whatever it is worth, but Wilt, himself, said he ran a 4.4. There are links that claim he ran a 10.9 100 yard dash in high school, but that is hard to believe, since he was on KU's 4x100 relay team, which included Ernie Shelby, who ran a 9.3. Wilt claims that Shelby was the only guy that could beat him. He also claims that he beat Jim Brown in a race at a party, in which there were supposedly some witnesses. I believe Brown was clocked at around 9.6 in the 100 yard dash.

Lebron has a recorded 4.4 time I believe from high school..

That dude is just a homer.

[plowking]

what? lool


kobes a better ball handler, play maker, passer, mid range shooter, three point shooter, off hand,

only thing jordan does slightly better is dunk and defend



And yet no one agrees with you. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[griffmoney2084]

Lebron has a recorded 4.4 time I believe from high school..

That dude is just a homer.

pulling stats out your anus again i see

[nbacardDOTnet]

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Kevin Duckworth

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This topic sucks now...

:oldlol:

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/0%20Players/om.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Paex9-VxPbA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn8bP-2y_ko

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/y%20NBA%20etc/Shaquille%20Oneal/-coast-2-coast1.gif

[plowking]

pulling stats out your anus again i see

Type in Lebron James 40 yard dash time in google. What figure keeps popping up on the screen. 4.4 and it says recorded in high school.

[OldSchoolBBall]

End to end speed, I'm thinking of guys like Jordan, Lebron, Drexler, Sprewell, and Iverson. In the halfcourt, however, there's never been anyone who covered ground faster than Jordan - he could get from point A to point B faster than anyone else in history.

In terms of explosiveness (i.e., acceleration from a standstill or while changing speeds), for the sub-6'3" guys you have guys like Tony Parker, Marbury, Harris, and Kevin Johnson. Above 6'3" there's Jordan and then there's everyone else (Wade, David Thompson (believe it or not) etc.

[griffmoney2084]

Type in Lebron James 40 yard dash time in google. What figure keeps popping up on the screen. 4.4 and it says recorded in high school.


why should i do the work for you?

[nbacardDOTnet]

Muggsy Bogues was fast as hell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KOU1l4Yi6Q

[plowking]

why should i do the work for you?

You shouldn't. I already did.

I'm just not going to quote 100 articles on here for you.

[nbacardDOTnet]

ummm its Rondo, he is the quickest with and without the ball,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52ZlZC4dZwE

[griffmoney2084]

You shouldn't. I already did.

I'm just not going to quote 100 articles on here for you.


dont

quote 1 w/link you lazy f***

[plowking]

dont

quote 1 w/link you lazy f***

And you show me stats/links that Kobe is a better ballhandler, shooter, passer, playmaker, etc.

[NuggetsFan]

Ty Lawesome anyone?

[catch24]

I've NEVER seen a quicker player (besides 80's Jordan):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9s-GXgYqZE#t=05m55s

Many more plays where he exhibits freak speed, but this was nuts to me.

[griffmoney2084]

And you show me stats/links that Kobe is a better ballhandler, shooter, passer, playmaker, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVWFIGhD980


And you show me stats/links that Kobe is a better ballhandler, shooter, passer, playmaker, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtvRatRkevw



kobe holds the record for best three point shooting

12 in a game, 9 in a row

jordan holds the record for worst three point shooting

5 for 25 in three point contest

[Fatal9]

I've NEVER seen a quicker player (besides 80's Jordan):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9s-GXgYqZE#t=05m55s

Many more plays where he exhibits freak speed, but this was nuts to me.
holy shit :eek:

[plowking]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVWFIGhD980



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtvRatRkevw



kobe holds the record for best three point shooting

12 in a game, 9 in a row

jordan holds the record for worst three point shooting

5 for 25 in three point contest

That doesn't prove anything. :oldlol:

Notice how how both of them look at Mark Jackson like he's a retard when he was sprouting that shit?

Kobe's a better ball handler and 3pt shooter. Nothing else.

I also like how the Phil quote was just cutout lol...

[Poochymama]

And you show me stats/links that Kobe is a better ballhandler, shooter, passer, playmaker, etc.

lol at Kobe being a better shooter, passer, playmaker than Kobe. Only ones who think this are known kobe fanatics. Jordan was quite a bit better at all these things(ands stats back this up).

Kobe might be a better ball handler, but who cares, Jordan was still better at getting to the rim.

Kobe is a better 3 point shooter though, that is the one and only edge he has over MJ.

[griffmoney2084]

lol at Kobe being a better shooter, passer, playmaker than Kobe. Only ones who think this are known kobe fanatics. Jordan was quite a bit better at all these things(ands stats back this up).

Kobe might be a better ball handler, but who cares, Jordan was still better at getting to the rim.

Kobe is a better 3 point shooter though, that is the one and only edge he has over MJ.


jordan fans think jordan is better than everybody at every single aspect of every single little thing that is even measurable




yall invented ignorant doosh bags IMO :roll:



JORDANS OWN COACH SAID KOBES MORE SKILLED THAN MJ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtvRatRkevw

[plowking]

jordan fans think jordan is better than everybody at every single aspect of every single little thing that is even measurable




yall invented ignorant doosh bags IMO :roll:

No they don't. They and non Jordan fans just know he's better than Kobe at all these things.

[griffmoney2084]

No they don't. They and non Jordan fans just know he's better than Kobe at all these things.


how is jordan better than kobe at every single skill when


PHIL JACKSON


thinks kobe is better than jordan at OVERALL skills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtvRatRkevw


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

Seen Lebron?

Seen Harris? Seen Rose?

[plowking]

jordan fans think jordan is better than everybody at every single aspect of every single little thing that is even measurable




yall invented ignorant doosh bags IMO :roll:



JORDANS OWN COACH SAID KOBES MORE SKILLED THAN MJ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtvRatRkevw

Post that full interview, or do you remember what he said right afterwards? :oldlol:
Way to completely misquote him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJo5e6sxUz4&feature=related

And here's Kobe saying Jordan is better than him. Game, set, match?

[Poochymama]

jordan fans think jordan is better than everybody at every single aspect of every single little thing that is even measurable




yall invented ignorant doosh bags IMO :roll:



JORDANS OWN COACH SAID KOBES MORE SKILLED THAN MJ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtvRatRkevw

There are plenty of players that are better at certain aspects of the game than Jordan.

Barkley was a better rebounder, Stockton was a better passer/playmaker, Lebron is a better passer/finisher.

Kobe like Jordan is a player who does pretty much everything well. Unfortunately for Kobe that makes for an easy comparison to Jordan since their styles match up so perfectly.

[liljohnnywall]

John Wall is the fastest ever with the ball.

[Poochymama]

how is jordan better than kobe at every single skill when


PHIL JACKSON


thinks kobe is better than jordan at OVERALL skills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtvRatRkevw


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Kobe is a better 3 point shooter/ ball handler, the former being backed up by stats.

Pretty much everything else though, Jordan is slightly better at, which again is supported by stats.

[griffmoney2084]

Post that full interview, or do you remember what he said right afterwards? :oldlol:
Way to completely misquote him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJo5e6sxUz4&feature=related

And here's Kobe saying Jordan is better than him. Game, set, match?




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_WNTx3gG_s

"now phil i understand that you agree with michael thompson, when michael screams to everybody that kobe has better basketball skills than michael jordan. do you agree with that?"

"he does, i think that he has overall"


all he said jordan had on kobe was "bigger body, stronger, incredible hands"


"kobes outside shooting is better"

"michaels interior game is better"

LOL SOUNDS LIKE KOBE VS LEBRON ALMOST HUH



FROM THE HORSES MOUTH

[griffmoney2084]

There are plenty of players that are better at certain aspects of the game than Jordan.

Barkley was a better rebounder, Stockton was a better passer/playmaker, Lebron is a better passer/finisher.

Kobe like Jordan is a player who does pretty much everything well. Unfortunately for Kobe that makes for an easy comparison to Jordan since their styles match up so perfectly.


yea but phil didnt say "kobe does some things better"

phil said

KOBE IS MORE SKILLED OVERALL

[jlauber]

Kobe is a better 3 point shooter/ ball handler, the former being backed up by stats.

Pretty much everything else though, Jordan is slightly better at, which again is supported by stats.

This is a GREAT post! You have acknowledged that Kobe was a skilled player, and that Jordan was slightly better. I have no problem with a post like that.

Overall, MJ was a better player. Do we ALL have to say something like, "MJ was CLEARLY better, and it is NOT CLOSE?" Or can we be a little more realistic, and say that, MJ was a slightly better player. Most here have Kobe ranked in the top-10 all-time, so is it a slap in the face of MJ to claim that he is SLIGHTLY better than Kobe?

Look, I believe Russell to have been SLIGHTLY better than Wilt. I also believe Magic to have had a SLIGHTLY better career than Bird. Shaq and Duncan are SO CLOSE, I can't really decide. My god, we are talking about the greatest players who have EVER played here.

[griffmoney2084]

This is a GREAT post! You have acknowledged that Kobe was a skilled player, and that Jordan was slightly better. I have no problem with a post like that.

Overall, MJ was a better player. Do we ALL have to say something like, "MJ was CLEARLY better, and it is NOT CLOSE?" Or can we be a little more realistic, and say that, MJ was a slightly better player. Most here have Kobe ranked in the top-10 all-time, so is it a slap in the face of MJ to claim that he is SLIGHTLY better than Kobe?

Look, I believe Russell to have been SLIGHTLY better than Wilt. I also believe Magic to have had a SLIGHTLY better career than Bird. Shaq and Duncan are SO CLOSE, I can't really decide. My god, we are talking about the greatest players who have EVER played here.


dont even bother dude


these guys rank jordan like he won 20 rings, averaged 50ppg for his career and won 20 all nba 1st team awards

he was faster than allen iverson end to end

dude was taller than yao ming on his good days

jordan could even eat 15 cheese burgers in under a minute!



:roll: :roll: :roll:

[griffmoney2084]

jordan fans make miami heat fans look smart

[Poochymama]

dont even bother dude






dude was taller than yao ming on his good days

jordan could even eat 15 cheese burgers in under a minute!



:roll: :roll: :roll:

:oldlol: Those last two were pretty funny. I'll give credit where it's due.

[jlauber]

I am a big Kobe fan...but I also a realist. His resume does not match up to MJ's, and barring a miracle, it never will.

The problem is,...most Kobe fans here will argue that Kobe is WAY BETTER than Jordan ever was. And then the Jordan fans fire back that Jordan was WAY BETTER than Kobe ever will be. It just gets ridiculous.

Not only that, but once again...the argument pops in in a topic that involves neither.

[Round Mound]

jesus that is quick, but Rondo thinks he can beat Chris Johnson in a race therefore he must be the fastest cos my mum said so and mums know everything and my mum would never lie to me

WTF Is Your Problem? :facepalm

Point A to B...I`ll Go with Sixers Barkley

All Around Fastness, Speed, Quickness and Potence: Jordan

[griffmoney2084]

I am a big Kobe fan...but I also a realist. His resume does not match up to MJ's, and barring a miracle, it never will.

The problem is,...most Kobe fans here will argue that Kobe is WAY BETTER than Jordan ever was. And then the Jordan fans fire back that Jordan was WAY BETTER than Kobe ever will be. It just gets ridiculous.

Not only that, but once again...the argument pops in in a topic that involves neither.


what resume we're talking about overall skills

kobes resume doesnt compare individually because he played behind shaq for 8 years

michael jordans coach agrees with me

a man with 11 nba championship rings agrees with me


:confusedshrug:

[theaussieguy]

WTF Is Your Problem? :facepalm


ever heard of a troll buddy?

also wtf at people saying Kobe is a better ball handler. MJ could palm the ball from the dribble and even catch the ball mid air with one hand. That right there should be enough to say he is a better ball 'handler' Lol notice the word hand is in there, of which MJ had one of the greatest pair in history.

[jlauber]

I give up...

a topic about the fastest NBA players...and it is now gone down a path about who has the better left hand, MJ or Kobe.

[griffmoney2084]

WTF Is Your Problem? :facepalm

Point A to B...I`ll Go with Sixers Barkley

All Around Fatness: barkley

fixed

[jlauber]

I've NEVER seen a quicker player (besides 80's Jordan):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9s-GXgYqZE#t=05m55s

Many more plays where he exhibits freak speed, but this was nuts to me.

I don't often agree with Fatal9...but that is impressive.

[LA_Showtime]

I am a big Kobe fan...but I also a realist. His resume does not match up to MJ's, and barring a miracle, it never will.

The problem is,...most Kobe fans here will argue that Kobe is WAY BETTER than Jordan ever was. And then the Jordan fans fire back that Jordan was WAY BETTER than Kobe ever will be. It just gets ridiculous.

Not only that, but once again...the argument pops in in a topic that involves neither.

i have no idea what thread i entered. i thought it was about who was the fastest player in the nba and then lo and behold, kobe bryant.

*i know you personally didn't bring it up, but seeing his name pop up on my screen in a thread where he obviously doesn't belong is just plain annoying*

as far as the word "speed," is that referring to quickness, acceleration, or end to end time?

[jlauber]

i have no idea what thread i entered. i thought it was about who was the fastest player in the nba and then lo and behold, kobe bryant.

*i know you personally didn't bring it up, but seeing his name pop up on my screen in a thread where he obviously doesn't belong is just plain annoying*

:cheers:

[m y t i n]

It was a good week on ISH for me until this thread popped up.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Forthe idiot(s) (read: griffmoney) who think Jordan doesn't belong in this discussion, some food for thought:

Prime MJ is the fastest point A to point B player in league history in the halfcourt. Dude just ate up space on the court like a blur. Find me video of anyone getting from ~36 feet out to the rim faster than this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZhbHMe3A_s&feature=related#t=5m39s

Just insane point A to point B speed. Watch from right when he starts to cross over to his left. Or how about this next clip, where he goes from 5 feet inside halfcourt to the basket amazingly fast. Watch how quickly he lowers his body and achieves full speed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUXJ8Q7ehY#t=0m59s

Or here, from the 3-point line to a dunk in the blink of an eye, one dribble and dunk:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUXJ8Q7ehY#t=1m03s

Or from 38-39 feet out to a dunk in ~2 seconds WHILE executing two changes of direction with the ball and several jukes (which slowed his linear speed down):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMYzaW46a68#t=0m14s

No one has ever covered ground in the halfcourt as fast as Jordan.

[whosegameisit]

Don't get me wrong, young MJ was very quick and fast
but no one can top Dwyane Wade a.k.a. "FLASH"
Flash = Lebron Speed + Iverson Quickness:cheers:

MJ
http://www.dunlapcusd.net/dms/Noonen/tnoonen/panther.jpg

D Wade
http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Cheetahs-cheetah-122968_1024_768.jpg

[Sarcastic]

Apparently Michael Jordan ran the 40 yard dash in 4.3 seconds in 1983. That is pretty damn fast.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/1999/jordan_retires/archive/831128/index.html


Smith says Jordan is the hardest worker he's ever coached. In high school Jordan hustled so, he was nicknamed The Rabbit. Rabbit, run. When he enrolled at Chapel Hill, Jordan ran the 40-yard dash in 4.6 seconds. This fall he ran a 4.3. By running and lifting weights he has substantially built up his upper body and gained 12 pounds in two years, most of it in the shoulders.

[plowking]

I still think Lebron's faster than MJ.
Just from watching videos it seems Lebron gets to his top speed a tad quicker, and his strides are longer.

[Sarcastic]

I still think Lebron's faster than MJ.
Just from watching videos it seems Lebron gets to his top speed a tad quicker, and his strides are longer.

Maybe in a sprint due to fewer strides needed. Jordan was quicker though.

[theaussieguy]

At the end of the day, when you are as fast as all these players mentioned, your top end speed isn't necessarily important. What is important, is 'economy of motion'. In that regard MJ is just head and shoulders above anyone mentioned here. So he was both extremely quick, and extremely well versed on how to use those quicks. Therefore i am coming to the conclusion, MJ was the most effective player to date to use his speed as a weapon.

[BigBalla44]

:roll: @ Griffmoney turning this into a MJ vs Kobe thread. Stupid b*tch :lol

[DuMa]

Kidd was also a blur in his earlier days. he was instant fast break

[griffmoney2084]

this is why kobe bryant is the GOAT

he never had a single physical attribute that was superior to everyone else in the league

hes never been the fastest, the quickest, jumped the highest, had the biggest hands

yet hes still the best

[nbacardDOTnet]

Hakeem
http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Cheetahs-cheetah-122968_1024_768.jpg

fixed =)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDpaxBhprYQ

[OldSchoolBBall]

Many NBA players actually used to call Jordan "Black Cat" because he was so quick (Tim Hardaway and others have recounted this). I wish that nickname stuck instead of "Air." It's so badass, and more aptly describes him imo.

[chazzy]

Many NBA players actually used to call Jordan "Black Cat" because he was so quick (Tim Hardaway and others have recounted this). I wish that nickname stuck instead of "Air." It's so badass, and more aptly describes him imo.

Prepare for a "Black Mamba > Black Cat" debate with Griff.. :lol

[OldSchoolBBall]

Prepare for a "Black Mamba > Black Cat" debate with Griff.. :lol

One of these nicknames was given to him by other players; the other was a self-given nickname. Not a good comparison. ;) :D

[griffmoney2084]

One of these nicknames was given to him by other players; the other was a self-given nickname. Not a good comparison. ;) :D


sorry but i never heard of this "black cat" nonsense

and the reason i guess is because its a crappy nickname that never stuck



but honestly jordan fans feel the need to put jordan in every single thread about anything

if i made a thread that asked "who was the best football/basketball player"

jordan fans would post this link and say JORDAN JORDAN JODRANSD!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOUcirZb8pw

LOOK LOOK~

HORDAN THREW IT TO THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS HOUUUUSE

[OldSchoolBBall]

If you've never heard Jordan referred to as "Black Cat," it's only because you have absolutely no NBA knowledge and are about 14 years old max.

[triangleoffense]

With the ball on fast break

Barkley
Dr J
Jordan (one of the quickest too)
Drexler
Lebron

Without the ball

Karl Malone


Iverson was one of the quickest but in terms of fast = potent too not so much

Rofl @ round mound putting sir charles.

[Sarcastic]

sorry but i never heard of this "black cat" nonsense

and the reason i guess is because its a crappy nickname that never stuck



but honestly jordan fans feel the need to put jordan in every single thread about anything

if i made a thread that asked "who was the best football/basketball player"

jordan fans would post this link and say JORDAN JORDAN JODRANSD!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOUcirZb8pw

LOOK LOOK~

HORDAN THREW IT TO THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS HOUUUUSE

http://www.gogoaj.com/PicImages/nike%20air%20jordan%2020%20shoes/Air%20Jordan%2020%20Original%20_%20OG%20-%20White%20_%20Varsity%20Red%20-%20Black.jpg


Look at the bottom right corner of the strap. They put a cat on it to signify his nickname of the "black cat".

[griffmoney2084]

If you've never heard Jordan referred to as "Black Cat," it's only because you have absolutely no NBA knowledge and are about 14 years old max.

lol get the fck outa here

never once in my life heard "michael black cat jordan"

find me a youtube video with people saying "well the black cat dropped 37 tonight, another day at the office for black cat"


LOL

[griffmoney2084]

http://www.gogoaj.com/PicImages/nike%20air%20jordan%2020%20shoes/Air%20Jordan%2020%20Original%20_%20OG%20-%20White%20_%20Varsity%20Red%20-%20Black.jpg


Look at the bottom right corner of the strap. They put a cat on it to signify his nickname of the "black cat".


:facepalm

what disturbs me most isnt the fact that jordan had such a crappy nickname that never stuck with him

what really gets me is the fact that people are so eager to revive the crap name


its BLACK CAT for god sake



black cat


? black.........cat


:facepalm


would be like me wanting people to call kobe "yellow bird" or "purple rain"

sh*t aint happenin

[Jacks3]

Black cat sounds pretty gay actually. "Air Jordan" is much cooler.

[griffmoney2084]

Black cat sounds pretty gay actually. "Air Jordan" is much cooler.

black cat

green lizard

brown bear



sounds like some native indian garbage

[Sarcastic]

black cat

green lizard

brown bear



sounds like some native indian garbage

You forgot black mamba.

[OldSchoolBBall]

lol get the fck outa here

never once in my life heard "michael black cat jordan"

find me a youtube video with people saying "well the black cat dropped 37 tonight, another day at the office for black cat"


LOL

Did you not hear the part where I said that it was OTHER PLAYERS who were calling him this? It never caught on in the media or with the general public. But among players this is what he was called frequently.

[griffmoney2084]

You forgot black mamba.

black mambas different

because it isnt "black snake"

its black MAMBA


if jordan had a name like "the Crimson chita"

THEN id say it was cool.


cat just sounds dumb and generalised

[griffmoney2084]

Did you not hear the part where I said that it was OTHER PLAYERS who were calling him this? It never caught on in the media or with the general public. But among players this is what he was called frequently.


hogwash

poppycock

delusions of grandeur

[beermonsteroo]

if someone made a thread about who was the tallest player ever



somehow jordan fans would say MJ is one of them


jesus christ jordan isnt even one of the top 100 fastest players ever


theres a bunch of PG's who would beat him in a race

Did you ever see young Jordan?????????????????:wtf:
Not Top 100? :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Bigsmoke]

not sure but Ty Lawson's speed is pretty incredible.

[Ruh-Roh]

black mambas different

because it isnt "black snake"

its black MAMBA


if jordan had a name like "the Crimson chita"

THEN id say it was cool.


cat just sounds dumb and generalised

chita? really? :roll: :applause:

[OhNoTimNoSho]

lol @ people never hearing the black cat nickname... The reason he was called that is cus he played ball like a cat, careful.. swift... graceful... cunning.. etc.... it only makes sense if you understand basketball so I see why people aren't picking up on it here.

[Flamboyant]

Pre-injuries Gilbert Arenas was probably the fastest player. Had he not made it in the NBA, he was going to be a pro sprinter.

[mayo'sgrizz]

Rondo is the undisputed fastest man in the league
doubt it. up for debate. questionable at best. mamybeeeee.... maybe not tho

[New York Knicks]

End-to-end, LeBron James. No question.

[WADE MONEY]

Have to be first, I love this topic

Kevin Duckworth

Oliver Miller

Beniot Benjamin

Wayne Embry

Fat Lever...

I didn't see the "s"

This topic sucks now...

Fat Lever was 6'3 170 you nimrod.

[step_back]

Did you ever see young Jordan?????????????????:wtf:
Not Top 100? :roll: :roll: :roll:

Have you ever read griffmoneys posts? he clearly was born yesterday so no I doubt he has even seen an old jordan.

[G.O.A.T]

Fat Lever was 6'3 170 you nimrod.

It was a Joke...

That's why he's listed last and there is an ellipses after his name and no one else's.

[PowerGlove]

AI

[Kellogs4toniee]

If you ignore someone ISH should make it so that when people quote them, you can't see the quote of the ignore person either. I think we know which person I'm talking about =\

O and my vote goes to a young Jordan and Iverson. For today's players, Rose has great end to end distance. Anybody remember in the championship game when he just blew by a defender? The majority of the people in Buffalo Wild Wings gasped when he did that. I thought Ellis was one but he's so dam complacent on taking bad jumpers these days that he's past his fastest prime.

[DatWasNashty]

Prime MJ is the fastest point A to point B player in league history in the halfcourt.

No one has ever covered ground in the halfcourt as fast as Jordan.

lol @ this clown. There's no way to prove the above statements. All subjective, brah. Stop trying to act like it's a fact.

[OldSchoolBBall]

lol @ this clown. There's no way to prove the above statements. All subjective, brah. Stop trying to act like it's a fact.

No "brah," it's not really subjective. You can actually slow down a video and time a person or count the elapses frames from point A to point B. Okay "brah"? :oldlol: I challenge you to show me a video of anyone getting from point A to point B in the halfcourt faster than the clips I posted earlier.

[thesnowman22]

Obviously jusy opinion, but here are the ones that come to mind:

Kenny Smith
Mj
Rondo
D Rose
Spud Webb
AI


In full court with the ball, Kenny Smith is tough to top.

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kayoLtEzf4o#t=1m16s

[Go Getter]

If you ignore someone ISH should make it so that when people quote them, you can't see the quote of the ignore person either. I think we know which person I'm talking about =\

O and my vote goes to a young Jordan and Iverson. For today's players, Rose has great end to end distance. Anybody remember in the championship game when he just blew by a defender? The majority of the people in Buffalo Wild Wings gasped when he did that. I thought Ellis was one but he's so dam complacent on taking bad jumpers these days that he's past his fastest prime.
The jumpers have nothing to do with it, him having major knee surgery does though.

[triangleoffense]

This is a GREAT post! You have acknowledged that Kobe was a skilled player, and that Jordan was slightly better. I have no problem with a post like that.

Overall, MJ was a better player. Do we ALL have to say something like, "MJ was CLEARLY better, and it is NOT CLOSE?" Or can we be a little more realistic, and say that, MJ was a slightly better player. Most here have Kobe ranked in the top-10 all-time, so is it a slap in the face of MJ to claim that he is SLIGHTLY better than Kobe?

Look, I believe Russell to have been SLIGHTLY better than Wilt. I also believe Magic to have had a SLIGHTLY better career than Bird. Shaq and Duncan are SO CLOSE, I can't really decide. My god, we are talking about the greatest players who have EVER played here.

The thing is, Jordan was the much better player, and it is not even close. Look at all of the memorable games Jordan has posted in the Finals and compare them to how many times Kobe has shrunken to the pressure.

Jordan, in terms of coming up in the clutch and competitiveness, is the best ever. He would have never let that 2004 Finals team lose to Detroit, much less the 08 team to the Celtics. Jordan prevented entire organizations from getting championships and hall of fame players from ever sniffing a ring (Stockton, Malone, Barkley, Reggie, Ewing). When people say things like "jordan is better at every facet of the game compared to Kobe", it's not that their being absurb or "an old man", it's because it's true.

[triangleoffense]

At the end of the day, when you are as fast as all these players mentioned, your top end speed isn't necessarily important. What is important, is 'economy of motion'. In that regard MJ is just head and shoulders above anyone mentioned here. So he was both extremely quick, and extremely well versed on how to use those quicks. Therefore i am coming to the conclusion, MJ was the most effective player to date to use his speed as a weapon.

This, good post.

[OnceInADECADE]

Rose

i never seen a player in the NBA move this fast http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiF9O6HDvI0 check out 4:42

[whatever666]

Rose

i never seen a player in the NBA move this fast http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiF9O6HDvI0 check out 4:42

There is a difference between being fast... and moving your limbs quickly...

A spider moves its limbs more quickly than you.... but you are faster.... right?

Look at Usain Bolt at 6

[Jordan23GOAT]

Derrick.................ROSE!!

[blazerjimmy]

Not sure if he ever actually played in an NBA game, but there was a kid out of Georgetown (think it was Georgetown) who was incredibly fast, had a "different" name, something like God Shammgod??? He was an absolute blur, but the guy couldn't make a freaking layup to save his life, much less a jump shot....thinking this was early to mid 2000s.

My votes (irregardless of whether or not I like them):

AI
Kevin Johnson
Muggsy Bogues
Tony Parker
Nate Robinson
Nick Van Exel
Avery Johnson

Of course Derrick Rose, John Wall, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Ty Lawson...CP's backup in New Orleans who just got traded to the Pacers,

One guy who I haven't seen anyone mention, that I always considered to be very fast/quick was Scottie Pippen

[jlauber]

Once again, Chamberlain was a SPRINTER in college (among his many events.) And, he was invited to a Kansas City Chief tryout in the mid-60's by coach Hank Stram. During that tryout, Chamberlain outraced the Chief's fastest running back, Curtis McClinton. Wilt, himself, said that he was timed at 4.4 in the 40. Not only that, but Chamberlain's coach, Alex Hannum, proclaimed that Wilt was the fastest man in the NBA at the time.

[Indian guy]

Of what I've seen of Spud Webb, he had it all. Ridiculous end-to-end speed and pretty much a blur in the half-court.

As far as MJ goes, I think he's the fastest of guys around his size(6'5-6'7), but I wouldn't call him the fastest ever. That title belongs to the little guys.

[TonyD]

lol cmon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF7nSC8vgWI


Look when they are running they are more or less at the same spot on the floor. Its not indicative of Lebron being able to run faster but more indicative of his freakish natural leaping ability. Not to say he isn't faster than him but im a Rondo homer and would really love it if he was the fastest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BWlRlKmlIA

[whatever666]

Of what I've seen of Spud Webb, he had it all. Ridiculous end-to-end speed and pretty much a blur in the half-court.

As far as MJ goes, I think he's the fastest of guys around his size(6'5-6'7), but I wouldn't call him the fastest ever. That title belongs to the little guys.

No, actually... that title belongs to the taller guys.... 6

[TonyD]

Honestly, when it comes to basketball I believe acceleration is much more effective than speed, and that's almost an entirely different discussion.

[whatever666]

http://speedendurance.speedenduranceco.netdna-cdn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/fantasy-league-40-yard-dash-for-ben-johnson-usain-bolt.jpg

Lebrons dash time is between 4.3-4.4.... look at Bolts (fastest human on earth) 40 yard dash and everybody elses 40 yards.

If anybody in the NBA you think is faster than Lebron, than he might beat Usain Bolt aswell.......

[Horatio33]

this is why kobe bryant is the GOAT

he never had a single physical attribute that was superior to everyone else in the league

hes never been the fastest, the quickest, jumped the highest, had the biggest hands

yet hes still the best

Going by this reckoning, Larry Bird is the greatest player ever.

[whatever666]

Going by this reckoning, Larry Bird is the greatest player ever.

About Kobe.... Kobe actually at his prime had the best combination of speed, quickness, athleticism, size at that time..........

[Svendiggity]

Maurice Green was a beast at 100m and he's 5 foot 9. A bunch of sprinters were faster than him but he could win because he accelerated to his top speed faster than everyone else. That dude just shot out of the blocks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU3yxIlcmhY

I bet Ty Lawson could go coast to coast faster than Lebron. If not Ty Lawson, someone built like that.

[Xiao Yao You]

Hot Rod Hundley dubbed Rickey Green "The fastest of them all" in the early 80's.

[Go Getter]

Maurice Green was a beast at 100m and he's 5 foot 9. A bunch of sprinters were faster than him but he could win because he accelerated to his top speed faster than everyone else. That dude just shot out of the blocks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU3yxIlcmhY

I bet Ty Lawson could go coast to coast faster than Lebron. If not Ty Lawson, someone built like that.


D. Rose is built JUST LIKE one of those guys....#imjustsayin:D

[j3lademaster]

I remember seeing a game against the suns where there's a loose ball and Lebron straight up catches up to then outruns Barbosa for the ball, brings it coast to coast, then dunks on him (why Barbosa even bothered once lebron was within 15 feet of the basket was beyond me). Lebron has to be the fastest guy in the league in terms of straightaway speed.

[LosBulls]

Cool resume but dam could he run even at this weight (some say 310 lbs)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz6DaYCnxpU

0:50 to 0:59

You are not suppose to be that fast, quick and a leaper with that overwieght on u. Not normal.

Now this is insane (but closer to ideal wieght)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWldMhxzvdM


Thank you. Charles Barkely is my new favorite player ever.

[DuMa]

for the idiots who think Jordan didnt have a black cat nickname.

http://www.uptempoair.com/ProductImages/2007/12/243798-100.jpg

[seoerizer]

Probably Brooks, AI.
And Tmac? The fastest first step ever at his prime.

[JSmoove5]

At the 2008 or 2009 all star game devin harris ran the whole court in like 2 to 5 seconds or something like that. set a gusiness world record :)

[evilmonkey]

At the 2008 or 2009 all star game devin harris ran the whole court in like 2 to 5 seconds or something like that. set a gusiness world record :)

He set the record because nobody else tried that record.... i can 100% gurantee at least 10 players who would run a faster time if given the chanse:

Lebron James
Leandro Barbosa
Derrick Rose
TJ Ford
Aaron Brooks
Nate Robinson
Rajon Rondo
Chris Paul
Monta Ellis
Ty Lawson
Darren Collison

[tgan3]

with the ball, young iverson easily.

Right now, would be a tie between nate robinson, aaron brooks.

[evilmonkey]

with the ball, young iverson easily.

Right now, would be a tie between nate robinson, aaron brooks.

Quickest, yes... Fastest, no...

[tgan3]

[QUOTE=whatever666]No, actually... that title belongs to the taller guys.... 6

[knickmybockers]

Rondo is the undisputed fastest man in the league
that would be monta ellis.

i don't know about ever, but wilt would have to be in the discussion.

[DwadeOverLebron]

prime AI end of discussion

[nbacardDOTnet]

prime AI end of discussion

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/Allen%20Iverson/VS/Whole%20Team/5c6bfc55.gif

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/Allen%20Iverson/VS/Whole%20Team/1238cc0a.gif

[evilmonkey]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/Allen%20Iverson/VS/Whole%20Team/5c6bfc55.gif

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/Allen%20Iverson/VS/Whole%20Team/1238cc0a.gif

That demonstrates quickness & ballhandling... not as much speed... but at his prime, 2000 he probably was the fastest though aswell anyways. Today? NO.. not even in discussion for the quickest.

[evilmonkey]

The court is not 100 metres long, much shorter then that and you don't always run straight ahead and you also have to dribble something called a ball.

If Usain bolt and young iverson had to race across the court dribbling. I would take iverson easily.

Nope... because even then Usain Bolt is faster....

http://speedendurance.speedenduranceco.netdna-cdn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/fantasy-league-40-yard-dash-for-ben-johnson-usain-bolt.jpg

Lebron put up almost the same 40 yard dash numbers as Usain....

[chips93]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vimGsiJ4N6g

[AirTupac]

Nope... because even then Usain Bolt is faster....

http://speedendurance.speedenduranceco.netdna-cdn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/fantasy-league-40-yard-dash-for-ben-johnson-usain-bolt.jpg

Lebron put up almost the same 40 yard dash numbers as Usain....

Jordan > LeBron @ 40 yards

[evilmonkey]

Jordan > LeBron @ 40 yards

I dont think Jordan could run that fast as Usain Bolt & Lebron..... :no:

But i sure think he could beat them anyways :D

[Pointguard]

If you were going for quickness, I'd say Ty Lawson. That dude is like a squirrel on crack.
A squirrel on speed or quayloods. When you are driving, crackheads take foorrrrrrrrever to get out your way. And then they get mad when you compare them to heroine addicts.


If you were going for the fastest player, as in top speed, its pretty obvious... its Lebron. Nobody covers more ground in such a short amount of time. There is a reason he can sprint down anybody, whenever he wish...
Yeah, and you can tell by the players reaction that they thought no way in he!! did they think he would catch them. Even Rondo, assumed his speed guaranteed the layup. And then Lebron caught him a second time, ssillly rabbit.

[no pun intended]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVsWuHblBwU

[Ikill]

no ones motioned wade really theres a reason he is called the flash. He recorded the same sprint time as drose and ran the agility run faster than john wall didn't dwade win the skills completion like three years in a row or whatever. Best shot blocking guard ever dudes 6'5! Best first step in the NBA there is no one in the NBA that keeps wade in front of them all it takes is one cross over one simple move and he's in the paint finishing above your head. Why do you think refs give him so many calls he's just that fast.

[midnight_show]

Rik SMits.

[TheTruth11]

This appeared in Slam Magazine:

[alfonsito123]

Have to be first, I love this topic

Kevin Duckworth

Oliver Miller

Beniot Benjamin

Wayne Embry

Fat Lever...

I didn't see the "s"

This topic sucks now...

how about greg ostertag? :oldlol:

[jlauber]

I would have to actually see the video of James running a 4.2 40...or even a 4.3 ...before I would accept it as fact.

[alfonsito123]

How about leandro barbosa and tony parker? I see them as fast running players.

I wonder if paul pierce is really that slow? he is slow for a 3 and yet he can keep up with guys like lebron james whose also known for their speed in the court.

[bisk]

Lebron getting back to swat J-Rich's 360 was one absolutely ridiculous sprint aswell.

[lefthook00]

Nope... because even then Usain Bolt is faster....

http://speedendurance.speedenduranceco.netdna-cdn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/fantasy-league-40-yard-dash-for-ben-johnson-usain-bolt.jpg

Lebron put up almost the same 40 yard dash numbers as Usain....

You understand that the first 40 yards of a 100 meter dash isn't the fastest that they can run right? They don't even get fully upright until like 40 meters in. Their head is down and their stride is different, they aren't fully opened up yet. If they were told to run only a 40 yard dash and go all out, they would obliterate LeBron or any NBA player.

[KissMySwag]

dont even bother dude


these guys rank jordan like he won 20 rings, averaged 50ppg for his career and won 20 all nba 1st team awards

he was faster than allen iverson end to end

dude was taller than yao ming on his good days

jordan could even eat 15 cheese burgers in under a minute!



:roll: :roll: :roll:
Shit had me rollin :lol :lol :applause:

[B-Easy]

im surprised people mentioning Rose more than Wade..

Rose might have better 40 time .. and higher vertical .. watch these guys on the court , you cant tell me Rose is quicker than Wade.

[Go Getter]

im surprised people mentioning Rose more than Wade..

Rose might have better 40 time .. and higher vertical .. watch these guys on the court , you cant tell me Rose is quicker than Wade.


Why not?

Even so, the thread is about speed not quickness.

[donald_trump]

I would have to actually see the video of James running a 4.2 40...or even a 4.3 ...before I would accept it as fact.

bit rich coming from someone who passes everything as fact when it comes to wilt though wants proof when it comes to another player.

[madmax]

It's pretty obvious that Lebron is the fastest end-to-end player in today's NBA - anyone who says otherwise has an agenda and is deluded as hell. You only need to watch the dude move on the court and see how effortlessly he floats on the court chasing all them layups:bowdown:

[Go Getter]

It's pretty obvious that Lebron is the fastest end-to-end player in today's NBA - anyone who says otherwise has an agenda and is deluded as hell. You only need to watch the dude move on the court and see how effortlessly he floats on the court chasing all them layups:bowdown:


Chasing someone is kind of different than straight away speed.

[jbot]

Is Devin Harris as fast as people say? I heard he has fantastic lane agility. How would you compare him to Ellis and Rose?
he got that baseline-to-baseline record that time but who knows? barbosa is pretty fast.

[LBJ 23]

Lebron getting back to swat J-Rich's 360 was one absolutely ridiculous sprint aswell.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p89lIixcahU


I completely forgot about that one. It was a foul though...

[Calabis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVWFIGhD980



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtvRatRkevw



kobe holds the record for best three point shooting

12 in a game, 9 in a row except in playoffs or finals where Jordan triumphs him again

jordan holds the record for worst three point shooting

5 for 25 in three point contest

LMAO!!!! Here we go again.....this dumbass posts Mark Jackson, so it means fact(again Rule #36 in the "Book of Kobe" on ISH: only when former players, gm's, coaches say something positive about Kobe, is their word fact, yet if the say something negative, they are haters and don't know anything.

*Also if Coaches/GMs/PLayers and former players, ie Phil Jackson, Larry Brown, Craig Hodges, Joe Dumars, Joe Johnson, and others still involved in some capacity in the NBA say Jordan would destroy today, because of rules, this is taken as false advertisement and complete lies*

[Calabis]

Discuss.

I'm not sure, but doesn't Barbosa have the fastest time recorded dribbling from one end to the other, I believe I heard that somewhere(watching a game).....as far as 40 times, its irrelevant, because your not dribbling a basketball, Jordan was recorded by Dean Smith as running a 4.3 his soph year, after posting a 4.5 his fresh year, Jordan and Lebron's length helps them cover ground on the court pretty quick, but I don't think any of those two guys are faster than Rose, Barbosa, younger Parker, in a timed dribble from end to end