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Go Getter
09-17-2010, 06:14 AM
I would assume some of you saw the South Park episode on Mormons. About how Joseph Smith found some sacred Native American scrolls and started up his practice in IL I believe only to be run out of the mid west to the west.

Well here are some interesting tidbits I've learned about the Mormon religion in my stay in Utah.

-They wear special draws called garments believed to protect them from evil [I don't know if my wording properly expresses the sentiment but this is what I gathered].

-They believe that every Mormon gets their own "planet" in heaven.

-Not all Mormons believe in polygamy....only some sects.

-Devout Mormons don't drink caffeine products or watch rated R movies.

-Mormons=LDS church

-The Mormon church owns a large part of downtown SLC [the actual street(s)] and is very affluent.

-All Mormons have to go on a Mission...you probably know this or have heard this while watching a BYU game....well it's true....a friend of mine has a brother that went on a Mission with his friend to Chicago and they actually sent these guys to convert people in the projects. Now I'm from the Chi and I get antsy in the neighborhood they were in....he told me they had to knock door to door [looking just like FEDS or Detectives in the black pants and white shirt with black tie:facepalm] and try to convert people with little success.....they actual held hands walking home one night they were so scared.

-The Book of Mormon says that blacks are cursed. Cain's punishment for not giving his best to God was black skin allegedly.

-Mormons are big into converting Polynesians, Africans, and Brazilians....I think it's either Brazilians or Native Americans or both they feel like are blessed or sacred people.

-Utah legislation dictates a "sin tax" on liquor and alcohol. The state owns/operates ALL liquor stores. The beer is like 5.8% or 4% or something.

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All in all my experiences with Mormons have been good. They seem to be [in my face@least] very respectful, polite, and amicable people.

Feel free to offer your input or discuss anything you think I may have gotten wrong.

NuggetsFan
09-17-2010, 06:38 AM
they actual held hands walking home one night they were so scared.


I'd assume this would things worse :oldlol: Anyways I ****ing hate mormons.

DRoseOwnsACamry
09-17-2010, 07:15 AM
Funny how they believe all blacks are cursed, yet, they want to convert Africans...

DRoseOwnsACamry
09-17-2010, 07:17 AM
I'd assume this would things worse :oldlol: Anyways I ****ing hate mormons.
I'm not for racism or discrimination, but Mormonism is definitely a shittier religion then Islam.

Go Getter
09-17-2010, 07:17 AM
Funny how they believe all blacks are cursed, yet, they want to convert Africans...


Blacks were just recently allowed to be Elders or ministers in the Mormon religion.

JtotheIzzo
09-17-2010, 07:34 AM
A high percentage of male Mormons are decent ballers.

Go Getter
09-17-2010, 07:41 AM
A high percentage of male Mormons are decent ballers.


The church league is pretty competitive you're right.

I play ball at a Mormon church facility sometimes and there are some pretty good games.

Real Men Wear Green
09-17-2010, 07:50 AM
-Devout Mormons don't drink caffeine products or watch rated R movies.That's kind of funny, because Utah is #1 in internet porn viewing per person in America.

Go Getter
09-17-2010, 07:52 AM
That's kind of funny, because Utah is #1 in internet porn viewing per person in America.


Repressed urges.

No lie I worked with a Mormon girl that told me her parents have never seen each other naked...I couldn't believe it.

And don't visit the Mormon Temple [which is beautiful btw] if you do not like people trying to convert you.

macmac
09-17-2010, 07:58 AM
Repressed urges.

No lie I worked with a Mormon girl that told me her parents have never seen each other naked...I couldn't believe it.

And don't visit the Mormon Temple [which is beautiful btw] if you do not like people trying to convert you.

Did they have sex with arts and craft bubbles all over their bodies to cover up their nasty bits?

Legend of Josh
09-17-2010, 08:14 AM
I would assume some of you saw the South Park episode on Mormons. About how John Smith found some sacred Native American scrolls and started up his practice in IL I believe only to be run out of the mid west to the west.

Well here are some interesting tidbits I've learned about the Mormon religion in my stay in Utah.

-They wear special draws called garments believed to protect them from evil [I don't know if my wording properly expresses the sentiment but this is what I gathered].

-They believe that every Mormon gets their own "planet" in heaven.

-Not all Mormons believe in polygamy....only some sects.

-Devout Mormons don't drink caffeine products or watch rated R movies.

-Mormons=LDS church

-The Mormon church owns a large part of downtown SLC [the actual street(s)] and is very affluent.

-All Mormons have to go on a Mission...you probably know this or have heard this while watching a BYU game....well it's true....a friend of mine has a brother that went on a Mission with his friend to Chicago and they actually sent these guys to convert people in the projects. Now I'm from the Chi and I get antsy in the neighborhood they were in....he told me they had to knock door to door [looking just like FEDS or Detectives in the black pants and white shirt with black tie:facepalm] and try to convert people with little success.....they actual held hands walking home one night they were so scared.

-The Book of Mormon says that blacks are cursed. Cain's punishment for not giving his best to God was black skin allegedly.

-Mormons are big into converting Polynesians, Africans, and Brazilians....I think it's either Brazilians or Native Americans or both they feel like are blessed or sacred people.

-Utah legislation dictates a "sin tax" on liquor and alcohol. The state owns/operates ALL liquor stores. The beer is like 5.8% or 4% or something.

---------------------------------------------------------------

All in all my experiences with Mormons have been good. They seem to be [in my face@least] very respectful, polite, and amicable people.

Feel free to offer your input or discuss anything you think I may have gotten wrong.

... stopped reading right there. John Smith? Err... you mean Joseph Smith? And BTW, it's rather sad this Joseph Smith guy supposedly was a 'Bible buff', knew the gospel, truth, etc. - however attempted to 'derail' the JC train and claim he was the actual Messiah without any doctrine/accounts to validate himself.

Yet, people (Mormons) are still going to disregard God's warnings against false prophets and the grave danger they present if you decide to follow. Religious spin-offs within the supposed 'Christian' church are mind boggling. Extremely dangerous material people (motivated by what exactly, IDK, Satan I'm sure) are presenting as the real truth behind something, and b/c it's trendy or whatever at the time people follow.

:no:

A lot of people look at the Mormon families, the structure, etc. and say "wow, now that's real power in people's lives!" ... but it's not God's power and is certainly not Godly according to the ancient texts. Yet, people still follow. Whatever floats your boat I guess.

Real Men Wear Green
09-17-2010, 08:45 AM
Did they have sex with arts and craft bubbles all over their bodies to cover up their nasty bits?
Probably just turned the lights off.

PistonsFan#21
09-17-2010, 08:59 AM
Did they have sex with arts and craft bubbles all over their bodies to cover up their nasty bits?

The father *********ed in the bathroom and passed the used napkin to the mother so she could do her thing

Go Getter
09-17-2010, 09:12 AM
I'm guessing they had sex in their garments.

Garments are like v neck shirts connected to boxer briefs.

Poodle
09-17-2010, 09:23 AM
Blacks were just recently allowed to be Elders or ministers in the Mormon religion.


religions need to stick to their guns. i don't get how religions are so pliable from their original teachings/practices. so i guess this Joseph Smith guy came to the Mormon leaders in a vision and told them they could do that now, or maybe they found a new book that says they can now allow blacks to be elders/ministers.

lame :rolleyes:

JtotheIzzo
09-17-2010, 10:19 AM
religions need to stick to their guns. i don't get how religions are so pliable from their original teachings/practices. so i guess this Joseph Smith guy came to the Mormon leaders in a vision and told them they could do that now, or maybe they found a new book that says they can now allow blacks to be elders/ministers.

lame :rolleyes:


we got one of those, Islam, and look at that shit show. Religions are simply a guideline for living and they need to adjust with the times.

Poodle
09-17-2010, 11:18 AM
we got one of those, Islam, and look at that shit show. Religions are simply a guideline for living and they need to adjust with the times.


then thats disingenuous to true belief. you can't change what comes from God or his prophets as the basis of a religion, at least i'm not going to buy into any human right now that pretends he speaks for God and changes things to be politically correct to the times.

if anything doing that makes a mockery out of a religion.

boozehound
09-17-2010, 11:23 AM
The church of LDS is the largest shareholder in pepsico (hypocrites)

Faculty at BYU have to sign a waiver that neither they nor their spouse/family will consume caffeine or booze

Brown people werent allowed into heaven (or the church ) until the 1970s. Now they are the foundation of new recruitment.

They have rebuilt a temple at Nauvoo, IL (where J smith was killed)

They massacred an entire caravan of 49ers and their familys on the way to cali (mountain meadow massacre)

J smith would have secret marriages with many of the pretty 13 yr olds. Families kept it quiet because it was ordained by god.

maybe Ill add some more facts later.

boozehound
09-17-2010, 11:26 AM
I would assume some of you saw the South Park episode on Mormons. About how John Smith found some sacred Native American scrolls and started up his practice in IL I believe only to be run out of the mid west to the west.

Well here are some interesting tidbits I've learned about the Mormon religion in my stay in Utah.

-They wear special draws called garments believed to protect them from evil [I don't know if my wording properly expresses the sentiment but this is what I gathered].

-They believe that every Mormon gets their own "planet" in heaven.

-Not all Mormons believe in polygamy....only some sects.

-Devout Mormons don't drink caffeine products or watch rated R movies.

-Mormons=LDS church

-The Mormon church owns a large part of downtown SLC [the actual street(s)] and is very affluent.

-All Mormons have to go on a Mission...you probably know this or have heard this while watching a BYU game....well it's true....a friend of mine has a brother that went on a Mission with his friend to Chicago and they actually sent these guys to convert people in the projects. Now I'm from the Chi and I get antsy in the neighborhood they were in....he told me they had to knock door to door [looking just like FEDS or Detectives in the black pants and white shirt with black tie:facepalm] and try to convert people with little success.....they actual held hands walking home one night they were so scared.

-The Book of Mormon says that blacks are cursed. Cain's punishment for not giving his best to God was black skin allegedly.

-Mormons are big into converting Polynesians, Africans, and Brazilians....I think it's either Brazilians or Native Americans or both they feel like are blessed or sacred people.

-Utah legislation dictates a "sin tax" on liquor and alcohol. The state owns/operates ALL liquor stores. The beer is like 5.8% or 4% or something.

---------------------------------------------------------------

All in all my experiences with Mormons have been good. They seem to be [in my face@least] very respectful, polite, and amicable people.

Feel free to offer your input or discuss anything you think I may have gotten wrong.
the beer is "3.2" meaning 3.2 abw or about 4 abv.

and, they liquor laws in UT have changed drastically since I started going there in the late 90s. at that point, restuarants and bars couldnt serve booze, all "private clubs" you had to join.

hell, you couldnt even get coffee at diners in places like mexican hat. Of course, they would sell you pepsi though.

YouGotServed
09-17-2010, 11:31 AM
Repressed urges.

No lie I worked with a Mormon girl that told me her parents have never seen each other naked...I couldn't believe it.

And don't visit the Mormon Temple [which is beautiful btw] if you do not like people trying to convert you.

That's a bit weird, how would she know? :oldlol:

Go Getter
09-17-2010, 11:31 AM
the beer is "3.2" meaning 3.2 abw or about 4 abv.

and, they liquor laws in UT have changed drastically since I started going there in the late 90s. at that point, restuarants and bars couldnt serve booze, all "private clubs" you had to join.

hell, you couldnt even get coffee at diners in places like mexican hat. Of course, they would sell you pepsi though.

Yeah 3.2, I'm not really a big beer guy and I used to be on the base where the beer is normal.

They lifted the club membership law.

And I think they used to have a law that you could only order on drink with your food at a eatery and if you wanted more booze you had to buy more food.

I know, it sounds silly.

NoGunzJustSkillz
09-17-2010, 11:32 AM
u see these mormon commercials on cnn.com? i was like :wtf:

Go Getter
09-17-2010, 11:32 AM
That's a bit weird, how would she know? :oldlol:


Ladies talk like that....that's my theory.....I think they were like a 70's sit com couple sleeping in two beds right next to each other....scheduling sex every thursday from 8:30 to 8:45, :lol

EarlTheGoat
09-17-2010, 11:39 AM
I would assume some of you saw the South Park episode on Mormons. About how John Smith found some sacred Native American scrolls and started up his practice in IL I believe only to be run out of the mid west to the west.

Well here are some interesting tidbits I've learned about the Mormon religion in my stay in Utah.

-They wear special draws called garments believed to protect them from evil [I don't know if my wording properly expresses the sentiment but this is what I gathered].

-They believe that every Mormon gets their own "planet" in heaven.

-Not all Mormons believe in polygamy....only some sects.

-Devout Mormons don't drink caffeine products or watch rated R movies.

-Mormons=LDS church

-The Mormon church owns a large part of downtown SLC [the actual street(s)] and is very affluent.

-All Mormons have to go on a Mission...you probably know this or have heard this while watching a BYU game....well it's true....a friend of mine has a brother that went on a Mission with his friend to Chicago and they actually sent these guys to convert people in the projects. Now I'm from the Chi and I get antsy in the neighborhood they were in....he told me they had to knock door to door [looking just like FEDS or Detectives in the black pants and white shirt with black tie:facepalm] and try to convert people with little success.....they actual held hands walking home one night they were so scared.

-The Book of Mormon says that blacks are cursed. Cain's punishment for not giving his best to God was black skin allegedly.

-Mormons are big into converting Polynesians, Africans, and Brazilians....I think it's either Brazilians or Native Americans or both they feel like are blessed or sacred people.

-Utah legislation dictates a "sin tax" on liquor and alcohol. The state owns/operates ALL liquor stores. The beer is like 5.8% or 4% or something.

---------------------------------------------------------------

All in all my experiences with Mormons have been good. They seem to be [in my face@least] very respectful, polite, and amicable people.

Feel free to offer your input or discuss anything you think I may have gotten wrong.


Lol, not even Bill Gates is that materialists.

PowerGlove
09-17-2010, 11:44 AM
Mormon girls must be freaks man. All of those repressed desires. Damn.

FCN
09-17-2010, 11:45 AM
This short video is very informative re: Mormons and their beliefs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFZ1jVO3-OE

Fallguy20
09-17-2010, 12:53 PM
wow... I didn't even know half these things, jus sayin

:rolleyes:

Lebowsky
09-17-2010, 12:58 PM
Wasn't Joseph Smith a conman in his lifetime, who was even tried before a court at some point? I remember hearing or reading so.

Scotty McSurance
09-17-2010, 01:19 PM
The church of LDS is the largest shareholder in pepsico (hypocrites)
Faculty at BYU have to sign a waiver that neither they nor their spouse/family will consume caffeine or booze

Brown people werent allowed into heaven (or the church ) until the 1970s. Now they are the foundation of new recruitment.

They have rebuilt a temple at Nauvoo, IL (where J smith was killed)

They massacred an entire caravan of 49ers and their familys on the way to cali (mountain meadow massacre)

J smith would have secret marriages with many of the pretty 13 yr olds. Families kept it quiet because it was ordained by god.

maybe Ill add some more facts later.

Myth

http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/mormon.asp

Scotty McSurance
09-17-2010, 01:28 PM
-All Mormons have to go on a Mission...you probably know this or have heard this while watching a BYU game....well it's true....a friend of mine has a brother that went on a Mission with his friend to Chicago and they actually sent these guys to convert people in the projects. Now I'm from the Chi and I get antsy in the neighborhood they were in....he told me they had to knock door to door [looking just like FEDS or Detectives in the black pants and white shirt with black tie:facepalm] and try to convert people with little success.....they actual held hands walking home one night they were so scared.
Not really true. I had a lot of Mormon friends in my days growing up in Idaho (also pretty heavily populated with the Mormon community). Some went, some didn't. They are encouraged (especially the boys) to go, but in no way are you forced. Most of them I know who did go, say it an incredibly rewarding experience for them. A few didn't care for it. I had one friend who came home a few months into it. Bottom line is it is completely optional. You are not shunned or turned away from because you don't go.

boozehound
09-17-2010, 01:30 PM
Myth

http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/mormon.asp
they may not be majority shareholders, but the church is a shareholder (and a rather big one). that snopes is basically bullshit, as all it says is that they dont "own" pepsico.

and that shit about it not being doctrine is ridiculous. sure, mormons may be lax on it (in my experience most are not, especially with coffee), but its in the book of mormon.

boozehound
09-17-2010, 01:30 PM
Wasn't Joseph Smith a conman in his lifetime, who was even tried before a court at some point? I remember hearing or reading so.
there was a great deal of mistrust of the mormons by other settlers (both in NY and in IL). yes, he was tried for being a swindler.

boozehound
09-17-2010, 01:31 PM
Not really true. I had a lot of Mormon friends in my days growing up in Idaho (also pretty heavily populated with the Mormon community). Some went, some didn't. They are encouraged (especially the boys) to go, but in no way are you forced. Most of them I know who did go, say it an incredibly rewarding experience for them. A few didn't care for it. I had one friend who came home a few months into it. Bottom line is it is completely optional. You are not shunned or turned away from because you don't go.
if you want to be a player in the church (they type of mormon holey enough to get "garments" from the church, you go on a mission). Sure, plenty of jack mormons do not, but its somewhat expected if you want to retain a good standing in the church.

Scotty McSurance
09-17-2010, 01:36 PM
if you want to be a player in the church (they type of mormon holey enough to get "garments" from the church, you go on a mission). Sure, plenty of jack mormons do not, but its somewhat expected if you want to retain a good standing in the church.
Wrong. Some of the churches most prominent members are converts who joined the church much later than what they deem mission age (19), and did not serve missions. You can still attend and get married in the Mormon temple if you do not serve a mission. You can still wear their "garments". In no way does not serving a mission diminish your standing in the church.

Scotty McSurance
09-17-2010, 01:42 PM
they may not be majority shareholders, but the church is a shareholder (and a rather big one). that snopes is basically bullshit, as all it says is that they dont "own" pepsico.

and that shit about it not being doctrine is ridiculous. sure, mormons may be lax on it (in my experience most are not, especially with coffee), but its in the book of mormon.
I'm not sure who you hang out with then, because soda (pepsi, coke) is always something that my friends were lax in. Coffee, most did not partake of. Some tea, yes.

The church owns few companies. Deseret Industries being the major. I believe they have a couple of media companies as well.

The church as an organization to my knowledge, and I've not seen much to contradict that knowledge, does not own shares in Pepsico or Coca Cola. Individual members might.

boozehound
09-17-2010, 01:42 PM
Wrong. Some of the churches most prominent members are converts who joined the church much later than what they deem mission age (19), and did not serve missions. You can still attend and get married in the Mormon temple if you do not serve a mission. You can still wear their "garments". In no way does not serving a mission diminish your standing in the church.
sure, you "can". But a survey of prominent church members would indicate that a majority of them served missions (and probably most of the non-converts).

boozehound
09-17-2010, 01:44 PM
I'm not sure who you hang out with then, because soda (pepsi, coke) is always something that my friends were lax in. Coffee, most did not partake of. Some tea, yes.

The church owns few companies. Deseret Industries being the major. I believe they have a couple of media companies as well.

The church as an organization to my knowledge, and I've not seen much to contradict that knowledge, does not own shares in Pepsico or Coca Cola. Individual members might.
Im not going to bother trying to document it, but its pretty clear that they (the church, not members) do own shares in the corp. and, yes, the church did relax its stance on sodas. I agree that many of the kids drink soda, but not very many of the adults. and, in my experience, almost no coffee at all.

FTR, many of my mormon experiences have been in southern and eastern Utah, in small rural communities. I have also known mormons in samoa, chicago and texas, and they tend to be much more lax.

Are you mormon? your earlier post made it seem like you were not. Just wondering.

Scotty McSurance
09-17-2010, 01:45 PM
sure, you "can". But a survey of prominent church members would indicate that a majority of them served missions (and probably most of the non-converts).
The majority probably grew up in the church. I don't see why that survey would be so shocking to a person. Your point isn't valid. Your standing in the church is in no way affected by whether you go on a mission. It's just not.

boozehound
09-17-2010, 01:49 PM
The majority probably grew up in the church. I don't see why that survey would be so shocking to a person. Your point isn't valid. Your standing in the church is in no way affected by whether you go on a mission. It's just not.
you are full of it if you really think that.


Find me one prominent leader in the church who was a mormon at mission-going age and didnt go on mission.

Scotty McSurance
09-17-2010, 01:50 PM
Im not going to bother trying to document it, but its pretty clear that they (the church, not members) do own shares in the corp. and, yes, the church did relax its stance on sodas. I agree that many of the kids drink soda, but not very many of the adults. and, in my experience, almost no coffee at all.

FTR, many of my mormon experiences have been in southern and eastern Utah, in small rural communities. I have also known mormons in samoa, chicago and texas, and they tend to be much more lax.

Are you mormon? your earlier post made it seem like you were not. Just wondering.
No, I am not a member. I do have a pretty solid knowledge of what they are about. I have taken their missionary discussions. I have attended their church meetings. I have talked at length with my friends about the same things we are discussing now. I mentioned earlier that a large part of my social circle were members of that faith. I'm not talking out of my ass here. I've lived in Salt Lake City. I lived in heavily populated Mormon areas in eastern and southwestern Idaho.

I do think it's a safe assumption to say that Utah Mormons are different from those you find anywhere else.

boozehound
09-17-2010, 01:54 PM
some general info. Again, I dont think its a big deal, but its clear that the LDS has owned stock in pepsico. how much, I dont know
[QUOTE]
Beneficial Financial Group, Bonneville Communications, Deseret Management Corporation, Zion National Bank are among many companies known by the Government to be owned or controlled by the LDS church. It's a matter of public record. To say the LDS church does not own any corporations is a bold face lie. Actress Joan Crawford willed off her interest in Pepsi to the LDS church, what they did with it is unknown.

You can have controlling interest in a publicly traded company, as the LDS church does with many corporations. My bank is owned by the LDS church by their own admission, what I don't understand about the LDS church, is why do they withhold from their members the fact they own or control companies.

I have many LDS friends who had no clue all the companies they own until I show them myself. Bonneville is easiest to prove, because of the radio stations it owns; one only has to go to FCC data base to check ownership. When the church owned the Alpha Beta grocery store chain it would not sell prohibited products such as beer & cigarettes. The Alpha Beta chain morphed into Albertson

Scotty McSurance
09-17-2010, 01:55 PM
you are full of it if you really think that.


Find me one prominent leader in the church who was a mormon at mission-going age and didnt go on mission.
If I did, would you believe me? I think not.

boozehound
09-17-2010, 02:01 PM
If I did, would you believe me? I think not.
sure. You may be right on this, but the impression I get (from both older mormons in rural communites) as well as many young mormons getting ready to go or on their mission is that it is considered a seminal event in a devout mormon's life and an important component in developing the proper worldview for a leader in the church.

Scotty McSurance
09-17-2010, 02:02 PM
some general info. Again, I dont think its a big deal, but its clear that the LDS has owned stock in pepsico. how much, I dont know

Do Mormons own Pepsi? | Answerbag http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/4645#ixzz0zoIoJXcX


again, that snopes you posted addresses whether they "own" the company. they do not, but they are invested in it. along with lots of others, as the richest (or second richest) church in the world.
I never said they didn't "own" companies. I knew about Bonneville Communications, and Zion's Bank.

Zion's Bank was founded by Brigham Young. The church got out of it's ownership with Zion's Bank in the 60's. I'm sure they have a vesting interest in it though.

https://www.zionsbank.com/about_zions_bank.jsp

Horde of Temujin
09-17-2010, 02:05 PM
I'm not for racism or discrimination, but Mormonism is definitely a shittier religion then Islam.


I notice you voicing out against prejudice towards Judiasm. why dont you practice a little tolerance yourself, it would lend you more credibility.

Scotty McSurance
09-17-2010, 02:14 PM
sure. You may be right on this, but the impression I get (from both older mormons in rural communites) as well as many young mormons getting ready to go or on their mission is that it is considered a seminal event in a devout mormon's life and an important component in developing the proper worldview for a leader in the church.
Does the President of the their church do enough for you?

http://www.thomassmonson.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_S._Monson

He joined the Navy at 18, and married by 21. He has been a prominent leader in the church for over 40 years.

boozehound
09-17-2010, 02:17 PM
I notice you voicing out against prejudice towards Judiasm. why dont you practice a little tolerance yourself, it would lend you more credibility.
good call. missed that post. what a dumbass

boozehound
09-17-2010, 02:18 PM
Does the President of the their church do enough for you?

http://www.thomassmonson.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_S._Monson

He joined the Navy at 18, and married by 21. He has been a prominent leader in the church for over 40 years.
alright, I stand corrected. but clearly, the majority of male mormons in good standing in the church do go on mission.

Scotty McSurance
09-17-2010, 02:21 PM
alright, I stand corrected. but clearly, the majority of male mormons in good standing in the church do go on mission.
I don't disagree about the majority, but I do think if I knew more prominent leaders, I would find more than what you would think.

Anyway, it's been fun. Repped for good conversation.

gts
09-17-2010, 02:22 PM
Does the President of the their church do enough for you?

http://www.thomassmonson.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_S._Monson

He joined the Navy at 18, and married by 21. He has been a prominent leader in the church for over 40 years. military duty counts as a mission in the church..

they consider serving the country their duty if one so wants to go that route

boozehound
09-17-2010, 02:24 PM
I don't disagree about the majority, but I do think if I knew more prominent leaders, I would find more than what you would think.

Anyway, it's been fun. Repped for good conversation.
yeah, Ive enjoyed it as well. Always good to be able to have a reasonable debate from opposing views/experiences without resorting to flaming and name calling. you turdburglar

Scotty McSurance
09-17-2010, 02:24 PM
military duty counts as a mission in the church..

they consider serving the country their duty if one so wants to go that route
I have never once heard that. The church certainly supports it, but it's not counted as "missionary service" in the sense of the phrase.

boozehound
09-17-2010, 02:25 PM
military duty counts as a mission in the church..

they consider serving the country their duty if one so wants to go that route
ah, didnt know that. Thanks GTS. I withdraw my prior statement of concession and replace it with condescension. kidding

Scotty McSurance
09-17-2010, 02:26 PM
yeah, Ive enjoyed it as well. Always good to be able to have a reasonable debate from opposing views/experiences without resorting to flaming and name calling. you turdburglar
Right back @ you, douche.

Scotty McSurance
09-17-2010, 02:30 PM
I have never once heard that. The church certainly supports it, but it's not counted as "missionary service" in the sense of the phrase.
I found this out after talking to a friend just now. I do know that they keep track of the number of members currently serving as members of the armed forces.

gts
09-17-2010, 02:30 PM
I have never once heard that. The church certainly supports it, but it's not counted as "missionary service" in the sense of the phrase.yeah it is or at least within some churches it is a viable alternative

my step mother is mormon her nephew (i guess it would be my cousin) chose the military over a mission and it iss allowed, now his brother has joined the navy they live in orem utah btw so it's not like some socal variance...lol

Scotty McSurance
09-17-2010, 02:33 PM
yeah it is or at least within some churches it is a viable alternative

my step mother is mormon her nephew (i guess it would be my cousin) chose the military over a mission and it iss allowed, now his brother has joined the navy they live in orem utah btw so it's not like some socal variance...lol
Okay, that kind of goes back to what I was saying earlier about mission being mandatory. You don't need church approval to serve in the military, so saying it's "allowed" is kind of a weird way to put. You are not forced to serve a mission, or seek an approved alternate course of action.

Go Getter
09-17-2010, 05:08 PM
Not really true. I had a lot of Mormon friends in my days growing up in Idaho (also pretty heavily populated with the Mormon community). Some went, some didn't. They are encouraged (especially the boys) to go, but in no way are you forced. Most of them I know who did go, say it an incredibly rewarding experience for them. A few didn't care for it. I had one friend who came home a few months into it. Bottom line is it is completely optional. You are not shunned or turned away from because you don't go.

Thank you for clarifying for me.

DRoseOwnsACamry
09-17-2010, 05:21 PM
I notice you voicing out against prejudice towards Judiasm. why dont you practice a little tolerance yourself, it would lend you more credibility.
I did not say Mormons are pieces of shit. I said that Mormonism is by far the worst religion out there.

chungerball
09-17-2010, 05:25 PM
I once tried to get with a Mormon chick....Sad to say that I was rejected. I would have probably converted too if I could get into her Mormon hanes.:facepalm

2012
09-17-2010, 05:33 PM
mromons and jews are the two religious groups i can honestly say are simply better human beings on average than atheists.

Go Getter
09-17-2010, 10:02 PM
mromons and jews are the two religious groups i can honestly say are simply better human beings on average than atheists.
I don't know about that, but I do know that despite being the butt of many jokes in Utah Mormons seem to be good people with a strong sense of morality as a whole. They might be white bread and uber conservative, but you can't deny the good that comes out of it.