NBA 2K 11 Player Ratings - Partial Ratings Thus Far (12 Teams)

[Duncan21formvp]

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NBA 2K11 Player Ratings (Partial List)
These ratings were acquired by surfing 2K Sports' league website for NBA 2K11, which you can do here.

There are ratings for 12 teams, and I've created lists by team, and by position.

What do you guys think of the job 2K did this summer? Who is over/underrated?

76ERS
85

[Go Getter]

Somebody's gonna wig out when they see Rose is 5pts better than Mayo.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Somebody's gonna wig out when they see Rose is 5pts better than Mayo.

never mind when someone sees Thabeet is better than Anthony

[Yung D-Will]

So many things wrong with these ratings


O well I always adjust.

[TheReturnofCed]

There are so many problems with those ratings. Ekpe Udoh is a 68, while Erick Dampier is a 60?

Joe Johnson and Monta Ellis are rated too highly. I could probably find a mistake with each one. Wade and Pippen should be switched, too.

[lukekarts]

So many things wrong with these ratings


O well I always adjust.

They look OK to me. The thing you've got to factor in, is that these ratings take the 'overall' ability of the player into consideration. Good slashers, shooters or defenders will still be good at their role, regarldess of their overall rating number.

[G-Funk]

They seem ok, I think that Bosh got rated too low. Alot of them may trp u out, but they are also making predictions.

Can anyone guess Kobe's & Jordans?

[KenneBell]

They seem ok, I think that Bosh got rated too low. Alot of them may trp u out, but they are also making predictions.

Can anyone guess Kobe's & Jordans?
Kobe: 97
Jordan: 98 or 99

He'll be the only one with those ratings. The older MJ might be a 97 though.

[j3lademaster]

Somebody's gonna wig out when they see Rose is 5pts better than Mayo.

Rose was already an 85 on 2k10 with the most recent update.

Kobe will probably be a 96 like last year. No idea about MJ.

[Ghettobird]

Eddie house s 53?

Harsh

[lpublic_enemyl]

bosh is fine at 87-88
kobe will be 96

[lilbeastnani]

85 – Monta Ellis
84 – Stephen Jackson

seriously?

[All Net]

Somebody's gonna wig out when they see Rose is 5pts better than Mayo.

:oldlol: 3...2.....1....

[gasolina]

Ersan Ilyasova gets dogged in the ratings again. For a starter who averaged 10 and 6 in just under 24 minutes a game, gets a freakin 63?

[FKAri]

Can someone explain how these ratings actually work in the game?

[Rose]

So basically when I updated my 2k10 roster...I did a good job.

[2LeTTeRS]

So far this looks about right to me.

[Andrei89]

Can someone explain how these ratings actually work in the game?


Lukearts is wrong

The rating work based on position.

Overall rating = overall position rating

Like a center , in this case Dwight, is still an 88 overall even though he can not shoot at all.

But if you give Lebron Dwight's ratings, at the SF position he will have a low overall score because he can not shoot, which is required.

Overall rating basicly defines how good a player is at his position.

[97 bulls]

As long as they allow me to adjust the ratings of every player on the game, I'm good. I'm sure everybody questions something. I remade the 02 lakers last night on nba 2k10 tell me what you guys think
Shaq 98
Kobe 95
Fisher78
Horry 77
Fox 78
Shaw 72
Walker 74
Even put in the scrubs but don't remember their ratings
Overall rating is 93 what do you guys think?

[B-Low]

Damn T-Mac a 73. Dude was in the 90s a few years ago :oldlol:

Now he's ranked below Ben Wallace

[doinitbig06]

aL hORFORD should be at least 80, if im not mistaken he was an all-star last year

[PowerGlove]

SMH @ these ratings again. They messed up last year but the good thing is that they update these so that they actually make sense.

[Bigsmoke]

its an improvement from last years but still the rating arent as consistent as they were in 2k9

[Bigsmoke]

As long as they allow me to adjust the ratings of every player on the game, I'm good. I'm sure everybody questions something. I remade the 02 lakers last night on nba 2k10 tell me what you guys think
Shaq 98
Kobe 95
Fisher78
Horry 77
Fox 78
Shaw 72
Walker 74
Even put in the scrubs but don't remember their ratings
Overall rating is 93 what do you guys think?

I thought Kobe had a 93 because i remembered he was 1 less than Iverson. But i had it on the Dreamcast.

[Dipset_Ballin]

why is everyone so booty

[97 bulls]

I thought Kobe had a 93 because i remembered he was 1 less than Iverson. But i had it on the Dreamcast.
I just recreated the team on 2010. But I assume their ratings are fair in your opinion?

[Kebab Stall]

Overall ratings don't mean much. They're calculated by taking every individual rating in to consideration. So, just because someone is a few points better than someone else, doesn't mean that they are better at certain aspects of the game.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

Somebody's gonna wig out when they see Rose is 5pts better than Mayo.

Derrick Rose is rated 85
OJ Mayo is rated 80

Ratings are more of a respect thing in 2k. It really doesn't necessarily correlate to how dominate a player is in the game at least not in any 2k game since 2k6. Many thing comes to play like shoot form, finishing around rim etc etc. Still all and all Rose isn't 5 rating points higher, they probably jacked up his offensive awareness, and put his speed and dunking at 95-99. To cause the gap.

Mayo will always always be more dominate in 2k than Rose. It was that way in 2k9, and 2k10, especially if you put him at point guard. People who have done this know what I am talking about. Mainly because he has the 3 ball shot, that we all tend to fall in love with in 2k, and he can slash and pretty good speed and can dunk in traffic. He is basically Monta Ellis on steroids in 2k.

That was him with an 80 rating. When 2k bumps him up to 90 due to his performance that will happen this year he will become better than Wade easily in 2k11 because he has a jumper and 3 point shot.

[Papaya Petee]

Deron Williams- 92
Chris Paul- 92
Kobe Bryant - 95
Kevin Durant- 95
Carmelo Anthony- 94

My guesses.

[BlazersDozen]

Ratings don't mean shit. I can build a playoff team with my best player being rated a 71. It's all about getting guys to fill certain roles on your team which is why you look at individual ratings, not the overall rating.

For example, on NBA Live 10 I was Portland and I could've gotten Maggette or Korver and at this time Batum was trash at shooting so I took Korver and I began slapping teams cuz he filled something I needed although Maggette was the higher rated player.

P.S.
Only got Live because GameStop didn't have any used versions of 2K10 :(

But I already have my copy of 2K11 on hold :D

[TryToBeUnbias]

71

[Papaya Petee]

[QUOTE=TryToBeUnbias]71

[BlazersDozen]

I think Durant will be 90-92. His defense will hold him back from reach the elite level.

[TryToBeUnbias]

I think Durant will be ranked the same as LeBron, Wade and Kobe. 94 at worst.
really ? once 2k factors in passing and defense I dont see him reaching Lebron wade or Kobe.

[dab0yech0]

Somebody's gonna wig out when they see Rose is 5pts better than Mayo.

enter lilojmayo and ojthe6'4mamba

[Horde of Temujin]

As long as they allow me to adjust the ratings of every player on the game, I'm good. I'm sure everybody questions something. I remade the 02 lakers last night on nba 2k10 tell me what you guys think
Shaq 98
Kobe 95
Fisher78
Horry 77
Fox 78
Shaw 72
Walker 74
Even put in the scrubs but don't remember their ratings
Overall rating is 93 what do you guys think?


Fox is about a 74-75 imo
and Samake is in the high 60's

[kobelamarjackson]

Derrick Rose should be a few points higher somewhere between 88-90.
Gerald Wallace should be 2-3 points higher.
O.J. Mayo should be 2-3 points higher.
Al Horford at 79 is ridiculous, he should be somewhere from 82-84.
D.J. Augustin is a 68?? He should be in the 70's at least.
Brandon Jennings should be between 79-82.
I would pump up John Salmons a couple points too.

[EnoughSaid]

Rose should have been rated higher. Like at 89 or 88.

[Ghettobird]

what is Z doing in the 70's
:roll:

[bdreason]

Overall ratings are misleading. If you notice, the most athletic guys (wing players) are usually overrated, and the big guys are usually underrated. This is because if a PF/C had the speed and handles of a wing player, the game would be completely unbalanced.

[Papaya Petee]

really ? once 2k factors in passing and defense I dont see him reaching Lebron wade or Kobe.
Maybe, we will see and find out.

[OnceInADECADE]

Michael Beasley should be 77 and potential 97

[Peteballa]

Derrick Rose is rated 85
OJ Mayo is rated 80

Ratings are more of a respect thing in 2k. It really doesn't necessarily correlate to how dominate a player is in the game at least not in any 2k game since 2k6. Many thing comes to play like shoot form, finishing around rim etc etc. Still all and all Rose isn't 5 rating points higher, they probably jacked up his offensive awareness, and put his speed and dunking at 95-99. To cause the gap.

Mayo will always always be more dominate in 2k than Rose. It was that way in 2k9, and 2k10, especially if you put him at point guard. People who have done this know what I am talking about. Mainly because he has the 3 ball shot, that we all tend to fall in love with in 2k, and he can slash and pretty good speed and can dunk in traffic. He is basically Monta Ellis on steroids in 2k.

That was him with an 80 rating. When 2k bumps him up to 90 due to his performance that will happen this year he will become better than Wade easily in 2k11 because he has a jumper and 3 point shot.

100% right.

Mayo > Wade all day!

[Swaggin916]

As long as they allow me to adjust the ratings of every player on the game, I'm good. I'm sure everybody questions something. I remade the 02 lakers last night on nba 2k10 tell me what you guys think
Shaq 98
Kobe 95
Fisher78
Horry 77
Fox 78
Shaw 72
Walker 74
Even put in the scrubs but don't remember their ratings
Overall rating is 93 what do you guys think?


All the role players are waaaay too high. A lot of the times you have to adjust their awareness stat cus it makes them a lot higher. All those guys should be around a 70 (for 2k ratings). How did you get a 98 for Shaq? 98 for Shaq is fine... although to me his defensive awareness was never that great so that hurts his rating. My 02 Shaq would probably be a 94 or something. 1994-95 Shaq on the Magic is a 90 overall... he was better in LA, but not 8 rating points better.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Brandon Jennings at 75? Uhhh...

[Andrei89]

Derrick Rose is rated 85
OJ Mayo is rated 80

Ratings are more of a respect thing in 2k. It really doesn't necessarily correlate to how dominate a player is in the game at least not in any 2k game since 2k6. Many thing comes to play like shoot form, finishing around rim etc etc. Still all and all Rose isn't 5 rating points higher, they probably jacked up his offensive awareness, and put his speed and dunking at 95-99. To cause the gap.

Mayo will always always be more dominate in 2k than Rose. It was that way in 2k9, and 2k10, especially if you put him at point guard. People who have done this know what I am talking about. Mainly because he has the 3 ball shot, that we all tend to fall in love with in 2k, and he can slash and pretty good speed and can dunk in traffic. He is basically Monta Ellis on steroids in 2k.

That was him with an 80 rating. When 2k bumps him up to 90 due to his performance that will happen this year he will become better than Wade easily in 2k11 because he has a jumper and 3 point shot.

omg lol:lol :lol

he so mad now

[OnceInADECADE]

Brandon Jennings at 75? Uhhh...

yeah it should 72

[LosBulls]

D

Mayo will always always be more dominate in 2k than Rose. Especially if you put him at point guard.

Are you serious? In 2k9 I would put Rashard Lewis on point guard and if you had never watched him play in the NBA you would think he was Magic Johnson.

[97 bulls]

All the role players are waaaay too high. A lot of the times you have to adjust their awareness stat cus it makes them a lot higher. All those guys should be around a 70 (for 2k ratings). How did you get a 98 for Shaq? 98 for Shaq is fine... although to me his defensive awareness was never that great so that hurts his rating. My 02 Shaq would probably be a 94 or something. 1994-95 Shaq on the Magic is a 90 overall... he was better in LA, but not 8 rating points better.
Ok. I made the 97 bulls too what do you think
Jordan 99
Pippen 95
Rodman 87
Kukoc 81
Williams 81 but that's based on what he did the next yr
Harper 77
Kerr 73
Caffey 75

[Swaggin916]

Can someone explain how these ratings actually work in the game?

People have already somewhat explained it... but here it is in a nutshell.

There are many attributes... a lot more than in Madden, so the ratings are going to be more skewed.

Ratings are based on attributes that are important for each position. So, a Center doesn't need to be able to shoot 3's, so the ratings won't move much if it all by raising or lowering a C's 3's... A SG and SF will be effected quite a bit because that is an important attribute to have. Most players are not all around players... they fill roles. Kyle Korver is only a 63 because all he can really do is shoot... he isn't a great athlete, he isn't a great passer, isn't good at finishing around the rim... so his rating is hurt because of that. It works like that for everyone... and the more athletic players are rated higher because attributes like vert, speed, quickness, dunking matter in the game.

usually what separates players who are in the upper 80's/90's from players in the low 80's is awareness. A guy like Monte ellis is pretty sick in the game even tho he isnly like an 82 or some shit. He can do everything in that game... but his awareness is pretty low so he is in low 80s. That being said, you can still dominate a game with him because when you are controlling him, awareness doesn't not matter... it only matters off the ball (I'm pretty sure about that... awareness might effect passing or something like that I'm not sure.)

[Swaggin916]

Ok. I made the 97 bulls too what do you think
Jordan 99
Pippen 95
Rodman 87
Kukoc 81
Williams 81 but that's based on what he did the next yr
Harper 77
Kerr 73
Caffey 75

Wayyyy to high

My 96 Bulls are:

Jordan 97 - If he could shoot the 3 better he'd be a 99.
Pippen 92 - Great all around player, athlete and defender. If he could shoot the 3 better, he's be a 94 or so.
Kukoc 75 - PRetty good all around, but not much of an athlete or rebounder so it hurts rating.
Romdan 74 - no offensive game hurts his rating
Harper 71 - lack of shooting hurts his rating
Longley 71 - lack of being that great hurts his rating lol
Kerr: 67 - all he could do was shoot... he rains tho lol 92 from 3 (shot over 50% that year)
Wennington: 66

My ratings are based on stats from that year. I have a formula I go by. Liek forexample, if you shot 30% form 3, you are a 72, 35% you are a 78, 40% you are an 85... If you shot 45% or better, you are a 90+ (which is why Kerr is a 92... that's about as high as I will go. I do that with every stat. 1 steal a game is a 70... 1.5 an 80, and 2 is a 90. It makes things a lot easier and less guesswork.

[97 bulls]

Wayyyy to high

My 96 Bulls are:

Jordan 97 - If he could shoot the 3 better he'd be a 99.
Pippen 92 - Great all around player, athlete and defender. If he could shoot the 3 better, he's be a 94 or so.
Kukoc 75 - PRetty good all around, but not much of an athlete or rebounder so it hurts rating.
Romdan 74 - no offensive game hurts his rating
Harper 71 - lack of shooting hurts his rating
Longley 71 - lack of being that great hurts his rating lol
Kerr: 67 - all he could do was shoot... he rains tho lol 92 from 3 (shot over 50% that year)
Wennington: 66

My ratings are based on stats from that year. I have a formula I go by. Liek forexample, if you shot 30% form 3, you are a 72, 35% you are a 78, 40% you are an 85... If you shot 45% or better, you are a 90+ (which is why Kerr is a 92... that's about as high as I will go. I do that with every stat. 1 steal a game is a 70... 1.5 an 80, and 2 is a 90. It makes things a lot easier and less guesswork.
Wow, that seems low can you give any other ratings of teams or players you made? I base my ratings on how good they were overall along with that yr. And what's your rating of those bulls. It can't be higher than 86

[G-train]

Overall ratings don't mean much. They're calculated by taking every individual rating in to consideration. So, just because someone is a few points better than someone else, doesn't mean that they are better at certain aspects of the game.

Exactly.

[mananmater]

Well first of all hello guys, this is my first post, they take a long time to start posting, names Josh, im 33 years old, excuse my typos, I believe i cAN be an extremely valuable asset to this site.


No offense my brother but your ratings are downright ****ed up, sad that Im the only one who notices this, far too many players are not even D league qaulity according to your ratings, you need some help[ brother.


Derrick Rose is more like a 91(hes going to be a blast this season)


Jennings is probably an 87(very good, better than hes ever been this season)


My brothers, I like your opinions of so called "formulas" you took the time to explain, its very amusing. Heres the truth, ratings work none of these ways, you cant base it on stats or other stuff like if he can shoot 3s or not(however the point someone had on centers not being expected to shoot 3s is a good point, as only a very small minority of players ever to be in the nba could reliably hit a 3 pointer). But everything else is garbage.

Basically ratings work on how good the player is as a person, what is his peak, his boiling point, what is he capable of within limits(hits back to the point I had of centers hitting 3s, thats a limit for most men that size).

Bruce Lee was the mj of martial arts, but even what we saw on tv is not a small fraction of what he could really do and was capable of.......

The same with mj, we will never fully understand his effect on the game, and what he could do if you really pushed him, but we have some understanding of that.

The same with ALL other players of the nba, if you played these guys on a good day, even DJ mbenga, they would probably embarrass you, they are all good, some just far better than others, only because they work harder than the disappointing ones.

Brother let me help you with your ratings.

Shaq in 2002 (out of his prime, more like 96) was a 95 or 95.5. Kobe at this time was a 94.

Boozer is probably going to be an 88 this year if not higher.

Roy is probably going to be a 92.



Im the biggest miami heat fan youll ever meet(ive probably already made some enemies on my first post lol, its a joke) so im going to run down what the ratings should be for the team this coming year, if there not on 2k11 itl be highly dissappointing.


ps... Im also a lakers fan, bigtime, but they cant win all the time, takes the competitiveness out of the sport, you feel me?????

MIAMI HEAT----------------------------------



1. Lebron James 99.7. (Hes going to be undescribably good this year)

2. Dwayne Wade 98.1 ( Hes going to be a beast as well as an awesome god of powers in playmaking and scoring)

3. Chris bosh 94.5 (A scoring terror all day long, also a lot of rebounds and locking and rolling, keeping them ahead by 5 or more)

4. Mario chalmers 88.0 ( severly underated, has a killer jumpshot, a slicer and scorer, and decent defense, also has great stamina, will hold the power and be the confirmer this year, him and the center will have plenty of open looks)

5. Zydrunas Ilgauskus 85.0 ( Remember hes have very good performance ever since he hit the league, and his best years are ahead of him)

Bench-------

They have the best bench in the league severly underrated...


6. Carlos arroyo 75.0 (a very hardworking point guard, has a lot of heart, a more than worthy back up for chalmers, good defender)

7.Eddie house 76.9 ( consistent 3 point shooter, doesnt have to be open, can drive, can pass, decent defender)

8. James Jones 69.0 ( 3 point nightmare, can pass)

9. Juwan Howard 82.0 ( anybody remembers his glory days, we have a LOT OF youngsters on this forum, he not only is a vet, but we bill a good hardworking pf for miami, as he will get a lot of baskets this year, as well as a foul attracter, decent at the line)

10. Udonis Haslem 84.3 (Good hardworking pf, motivator, and defender, hustles like hell, gets the foul, makes critical shots)

11. Joel Anthony 78.1 ( great defender, a packer!!!, also has body, makes them work hard for it)

12. Jamal Magloire 74.9 ( another good defender, serious packer ! hard to drive with him in the lane)

13.Mike Miller 81.5 ( Underrated, great 3 point shooter, can drive, and can ball, for a whiteboy he can downright play)

14. Dexter pittman and a few rookies 60- 80 ????? well see if they make it on the team.

15. Erick dampier ????? another iffy, yet if confirmed another bigman who rebounds and makes life difficult for drivers.



There biggest and toughest enemy is Boston, cant wait for the season to start!!!

[mananmater]

Well first of all hello guys, this is my first post, they take a long time to start posting, names Josh, im 33 years old, excuse my typos, I believe i cAN be an extremely valuable asset to this site.


No offense my brother but your ratings are downright ****ed up, sad that Im the only one who notices this, far too many players are not even D league qaulity according to your ratings, you need some help[ brother.


Derrick Rose is more like a 91(hes going to be a blast this season)


Jennings is probably an 87(very good, better than hes ever been this season)


My brothers, I like your opinions of so called "formulas" you took the time to explain, its very amusing. Heres the truth, ratings work none of these ways, you cant base it on stats or other stuff like if he can shoot 3s or not(however the point someone had on centers not being expected to shoot 3s is a good point, as only a very small minority of players ever to be in the nba could reliably hit a 3 pointer). But everything else is garbage.

Basically ratings work on how good the player is as a person, what is his peak, his boiling point, what is he capable of within limits(hits back to the point I had of centers hitting 3s, thats a limit for most men that size).

Bruce Lee was the mj of martial arts, but even what we saw on tv is not a small fraction of what he could really do and was capable of.......

The same with mj, we will never fully understand his effect on the game, and what he could do if you really pushed him, but we have some understanding of that.

The same with ALL other players of the nba, if you played these guys on a good day, even DJ mbenga, they would probably embarrass you, they are all good, some just far better than others, only because they work harder than the disappointing ones.

Brother let me help you with your ratings.

Shaq in 2002 (out of his prime, more like 96) was a 95 or 95.5. Kobe at this time was a 94.

Boozer is probably going to be an 88 this year if not higher.

Roy is probably going to be a 92.



Im the biggest miami heat fan youll ever meet(ive probably already made some enemies on my first post lol, its a joke) so im going to run down what the ratings should be for the team this coming year, if there not on 2k11 itl be highly dissappointing.


ps... Im also a lakers fan, bigtime, but they cant win all the time, takes the competitiveness out of the sport, you feel me?????

MIAMI HEAT----------------------------------



1. Lebron James 99.7. (Hes going to be undescribably good this year)

2. Dwayne Wade 98.1 ( Hes going to be a beast as well as an awesome god of powers in playmaking and scoring)

3. Chris bosh 94.5 (A scoring terror all day long, also a lot of rebounds and locking and rolling, keeping them ahead by 5 or more)

4. Mario chalmers 88.0 ( severly underated, has a killer jumpshot, a slicer and scorer, and decent defense, also has great stamina, will hold the power and be the confirmer this year, him and the center will have plenty of open looks)

5. Zydrunas Ilgauskus 85.0 ( Remember hes have very good performance ever since he hit the league, and his best years are ahead of him)

Bench-------

They have the best bench in the league severly underrated...


6. Carlos arroyo 75.0 (a very hardworking point guard, has a lot of heart, a more than worthy back up for chalmers, good defender)

7.Eddie house 76.9 ( consistent 3 point shooter, doesnt have to be open, can drive, can pass, decent defender)

8. James Jones 69.0 ( 3 point nightmare, can pass)

9. Juwan Howard 82.0 ( anybody remembers his glory days, we have a LOT OF youngsters on this forum, he not only is a vet, but we bill a good hardworking pf for miami, as he will get a lot of baskets this year, as well as a foul attracter, decent at the line)

10. Udonis Haslem 84.3 (Good hardworking pf, motivator, and defender, hustles like hell, gets the foul, makes critical shots)

11. Joel Anthony 78.1 ( great defender, a packer!!!, also has body, makes them work hard for it)

12. Jamal Magloire 74.9 ( another good defender, serious packer ! hard to drive with him in the lane)

13.Mike Miller 81.5 ( Underrated, great 3 point shooter, can drive, and can ball, for a whiteboy he can downright play)

14. Dexter pittman and a few rookies 60- 80 ????? well see if they make it on the team.

15. Erick dampier ????? another iffy, yet if confirmed another bigman who rebounds and makes life difficult for drivers.



There biggest and toughest enemy is Boston, cant wait for the season to start!!!

[mananmater]

apologize for double posting, mistake...

[caliballer]

There are so many problems with those ratings. Ekpe Udoh is a 68, while Erick Dampier is a 60?

Joe Johnson and Monta Ellis are rated too highly. I could probably find a mistake with each one. Wade and Pippen should be switched, too.
85 is a good overall for a #1 option putting up 25+ ppg.

[evilmonkey]

Kobe: 97
Jordan: 98 or 99

He'll be the only one with those ratings. The older MJ might be a 97 though.

Really? wow... Kobe 97!? Now i dont know if they hug Kobes **** to much or if they are underrating Lebron to much. Kobe should not have the same ratings as Lebron, he was not that good last season or the season before that.... if Wade has 96 then Kobe should not have any higher.

He was the posterboy and so on, but come on... lets be a bit realistic here.

[Swaggin916]

Wow, that seems low can you give any other ratings of teams or players you made? I base my ratings on how good they were overall along with that yr. And what's your rating of those bulls. It can't be higher than 86

They are a 93 overall with 85 on offense and 97 on Defense. I have it set for an 8 man rotation with those players (since that's what they used that year). The rating of the team depends on the rotation. If you have a bunch of crappy rated players getting minutes in the rotation then it brings the rating down... and if you give all 48 minutes to the good players, the rating will be damn near 99 if not at 99 (Try it with the Lakers... give all 48 to there starters and they will probably be 99 overall... they definitely will be if you give Fisher's minutes to Odom).

Other Teams I have created:

86-87' Lakers (The best team I have created hands down. they have everything pretty much. Kareem wasn't a great shot blocker at this point, but at 7'2 in 2k10 he protects the rim. Magic is an animal.... He hadn't developed his 3 point shot yet so he isn't flawless, but an 87 speed 6'9 PG who can dish it anywhere and everywhere is nearly unstoppable. Scott and Cooper can rain... and then Worthy can blow by any PF in the game just like he could when he played).

Magic - 93
Worthy - 86
B. Scott - 82
Cooper - 80 )
Kareem - 79

01-02 Kings (Good solid overall team. I love to run what they ran dishing it all around and draining open jumpers... and then if that fails, get it into Webber and go to work. Defensively they aren't very good tho).

Webber - 89
Divac - 81
Christie - 78
Bibby - 77
Stojakovic - 76
B. Jackson - 74
Hedo - 73
Pollard - 69

85-86 Celtics (it's seriously a block party with them, McHale and Parish each averaged over 2 blocks a game that year so they are both over 90 block and swat fools all day. Bird's stroke looks really sweet, but it's a tough release. I just used the one from the 80's squad and changed all his attributes)

Bird - 95
McHale - 86
Parish - 85
D. Johnson - 80
D. Ainge - 79

86-87 Atlanta Hawks (They aren't that good... no 3 point shooting whatsoever. Dominique is tight, and Rivers is quick and can pass so he is good, Willis can hit some post shots and Tree Rollins can swat MF's lol... but it's not that easy to score with them).

Wilkins - 87
Rivers - 81
Willis - 79
Wittman -73
Rollins - 73

96-97 Utah Jazz (I like using this team... Malone face up jumper all day lol. Ostertag is a beast too lmao 7'1 guy and he averaged like damn near 2 blocks in like 25 minutes so he can swat fools. 3 guys who can rain 3's is nice too)

Malone - 93
Stockton - 87
Hornacek - 78
Bryan Russel - 75
Ostertag - 71

94-95 Magic (Shaq is a fukin Monster... I mean OMG. Dwight's Vert is 88... and I figure he has around a 40 inch vert. Shaq posted a 36... so I figured a 78 vert for Shaq was good. Well a 78 vert at 7'2 is freakin insane. Hardaway is fkin baller too as a 6'7 PG and then you have Scott and Anderson who can rain 3's. Great team... close to the Lakers for the best)

Shaq - 90
Hardaway - 84
Grant - 82
Anderson - 82
Scott - 69

92-93 Phx. Suns (Barkley is pretty tight, gave him a bunch of 2 handed monster dunks for specialty dunks lol... but being only 6'6, he get's blocked sometimes if you have him at PF... So I usually stick him at SF and have Dumas play the 4. KJ is a baller, quick as hell... and then having Chambers at the center to rain 3's is awesome... he didn't start, but he played more minutes than West and is better so I wanted him as the starter instead ha)

Barkley - 94
KJ - 85
Majerly - 81
Dumas - 73
Chambers - 73


the Bulls and Kings are the only ones I have done full rotations of... and since 2k11 is about to come out, they will be the only ones. In 2k11, I will do every team tho. I love playing friends with these rosters, it's so much fun. It's way more fun that just using regular rosters. Some of these guys are definitely too high... but it's kinda hard to make some of them worse based on what I believe there rating should be... the end result always ends up in a good overall rating so I have to lower attributes. The best way to do it is to compare them to players of today and see how those guys are rated... and that's your building point.

[mananmater]

They are a 93 overall with 85 on offense and 97 on Defense. I have it set for an 8 man rotation with those players (since that's what they used that year). The rating of the team depends on the rotation. If you a bunch of crappy rated players getting minutes in the rotation then it brings the rating down... and if you give all 48 minutes to the good players, the rating will be damn near 99 if not at 99 (Try it with the Lakers... give all 48 to there starters and they will probably be 99 overall... they definitely will be if you give Fisher's minutes to Odom).

Other Teams I have created:

86-87' Lakers (The best team I have created hands down. they have everything pretty much. Kareem wasn't a great shot blocker at this point, but at 7'2 in 2k10 he protects the rim. Magic is an animal.... He hadn't developed his 3 point shot yet so he isn't flawless, but an 87 speed 6'9 PG who can dish it anywhere and everywhere is nearly unstoppable. Scott and Cooper can rain... and then Worthy can blow by any PF in the game just like he could when he played).

Magic - 93
Worthy - 86
B. Scott - 82
Cooper - 80 )
Kareem - 79

01-02 Kings (Good solid overall team. I love to run what they ran dishing it all around and draining open jumpers... and then if that fails, get it into Webber and go to work. Defensively they aren't very good tho).

Webber - 89
Divac - 81
Christie - 78
Bibby - 77
Stojakovic - 76
B. Jackson - 74
Hedo - 73
Pollard - 69

85-86 Celtics (it's seriously a block party with them, McHale and Parish each averaged over 2 blocks a game that year so they are both over 90 block and swat fools all day. Bird's stroke looks really sweet, but it's a tough release. I just used the one from the 80's squad and changed all his attributes)

Bird - 95
McHale - 86
Parish - 85
D. Johnson - 80
D. Ainge - 79

86-87 Atlanta Hawks (They aren't that good... no 3 point shooting whatsoever. Dominique is tight, and Rivers is quick and can pass so he is good, Willis can hit some post shots and Tree Rollins can swat MF's lol... but it's not that easy to score with them).

Wilkins - 87
Rivers - 81
Willis - 79
Wittman -73
Rollins - 73

96-97 Utah Jazz (I like using this team... Malone face up jumper all day lol. Ostertag is a beast too lmao 7'1 guy and he averaged like damn near 2 blocks in like 25 minutes so he can swat fools. 3 guys who can rain 3's is nice too)

Malone - 93
Stockton - 87
Hornacek - 78
Bryan Russel - 75
Ostertag - 71

94-95 Magic (Shaq is a fukin Monster... I mean OMG. Dwight's Vert is 88... and I figure he has around a 40 inch vert. Shaq posted a 36... so I figured a 78 vert for Shaq was good. Well a 78 vert at 7'2 is freakin insane. Hardaway is fkin baller too as a 6'7 PG and then you have Scott and Anderson who can rain 3's. Great team... close to the Lakers for the best)

Shaq - 90
Hardaway - 84
Grant - 82
Anderson - 82
Scott - 69

92-93 Phx. Suns (Barkley is pretty tight, gave him a bunch of 2 handed monster dunks for specialty dunks lol... but being only 6'6, he get's blocked sometimes if you have him at PF... So I usually stick him at SF and have Dumas play the 3. KJ is a baller, quick as hell... and then having Chambers at the center to rain 3's is awesome... he didn't start, but he played more minutes than West and is better so I wanted him as the starter instead ha)

Barkley - 94
KJ - 85
Majerly - 81
Dumas - 73
Chambers - 73


the Bulls and Kings are the only ones I have done full rotations of... and since 2k11 is about to come out, they will be the only ones. In 2k11, I will do every team tho. I love playing friends with these rosters, it's so much fun. It's way more fun that just using regular rosters.


your ratings are decent, although they should be a bit higher, by the waT here are mine for the 95 rockets.

Hakeem 97.0

Clyde Drexler 95.5

Robert Horry 87.7

Sam Cassell 89.6


Kenny Smith 83.2

Mario Ellie 81.4

Vernon Maxwell 86.2

Chucky brown 75.9

[Swaggin916]

your ratings are decent, although they should be a bit higher, by the waT here are mine for the 95 rockets.

Hakeem 97.0

Clyde Drexler 95.5

Robert Horry 87.7

Sam Cassell 89.6


Kenny Smith 83.2

Mario Ellie 81.4

Vernon Maxwell 86.2

Chucky brown 75.9

You have no idea what you are talking about. I rate based on how rating work in the game, not just randomly. there is no freaking way Cassell would ever be an 89 ... none of those guys would be over and 80 besides Hakeem and Drexler. a 75 in this game is a very solid rating... only the truly special players get over 90 and you have to be really good to be in the 80's. That's how 2k ratings work.

[mananmater]

You have no idea what you are talking about. I rate based on how rating work in the game, not just randomly. there is no freaking way Cassell would ever be an 89 ... none of those guys would be over and 80 besides Hakeem and Drexler. a 75 in this game is a very solid rating... only the truly special players get over 90 and you have to be really good to be in the 80's. That's how 2k ratings work.


brother are you old enough to have seen them actually play in a real game, Not a video game,( I do like the game though) all of the guys mentioned are as good if not better than what i put down, vernon maxwell should be a hall of famer if it wasnt for legal problems, cassell was as good a dribbler as isaiah thomas, and definitely was an 88, 89, bro, the problem with you is that you think you know what your talking about, but you dont.

I can almost bet your under 25. In all respect my advice to you is to watch some of the videos of them playing on youtube and then judge, anybody who has actually watched them play would agree, that most of the guys on that team should be in the hall of fame.

the ratings are based on their real world quality, not what they can do in game.
pm me anytime.


(ive played the game extensively and when it comes to ratings nba live 08, 09, 10 and this game have one thing in common, a 75 is truly a C rating, brothers i dont know if you like your games more difficult than average, but i had a player with a 75 rating and he didnt make it very far, id give 85 a solid rating, are you guys sure your playing nba 2k10, have you seen all the mods to give create a players more points than 20,000, do you know how difficult making a shot in the game is without messing with the sliders.?)

[Swaggin916]

I'm not going to argue with you, it's a waste of time.

But I have seen all of these guys play. Anybody who I hadn't seen play (or simply could not remember) I went and watched their games (which are readily availiable).

[mananmater]

I'm not going to argue with you, it's a waste of time.

But I have seen all of these guys play. Anybody who I hadn't seen play (or simply could not remember) I went and watched their games (which are readily availiable).


if you weren't going to argue with me you wouldnt repost, I asked have you seen them play on tve when in real time, not on the internet, back in 94, 95.

I assume not, fix your ratings bro.

I've played 2k10 so your not fooling me, 75 is not a great rating in the game, its a C.

[97 bulls]

They are a 93 overall with 85 on offense and 97 on Defense. I have it set for an 8 man rotation with those players (since that's what they used that year). The rating of the team depends on the rotation. If you have a bunch of crappy rated players getting minutes in the rotation then it brings the rating down... and if you give all 48 minutes to the good players, the rating will be damn near 99 if not at 99 (Try it with the Lakers... give all 48 to there starters and they will probably be 99 overall... they definitely will be if you give Fisher's minutes to Odom).

Other Teams I have created:

86-87' Lakers (The best team I have created hands down. they have everything pretty much. Kareem wasn't a great shot blocker at this point, but at 7'2 in 2k10 he protects the rim. Magic is an animal.... He hadn't developed his 3 point shot yet so he isn't flawless, but an 87 speed 6'9 PG who can dish it anywhere and everywhere is nearly unstoppable. Scott and Cooper can rain... and then Worthy can blow by any PF in the game just like he could when he played).

Magic - 93
Worthy - 86
B. Scott - 82
Cooper - 80 )
Kareem - 79

01-02 Kings (Good solid overall team. I love to run what they ran dishing it all around and draining open jumpers... and then if that fails, get it into Webber and go to work. Defensively they aren't very good tho).

Webber - 89
Divac - 81
Christie - 78
Bibby - 77
Stojakovic - 76
B. Jackson - 74
Hedo - 73
Pollard - 69

85-86 Celtics (it's seriously a block party with them, McHale and Parish each averaged over 2 blocks a game that year so they are both over 90 block and swat fools all day. Bird's stroke looks really sweet, but it's a tough release. I just used the one from the 80's squad and changed all his attributes)

Bird - 95
McHale - 86
Parish - 85
D. Johnson - 80
D. Ainge - 79

86-87 Atlanta Hawks (They aren't that good... no 3 point shooting whatsoever. Dominique is tight, and Rivers is quick and can pass so he is good, Willis can hit some post shots and Tree Rollins can swat MF's lol... but it's not that easy to score with them).

Wilkins - 87
Rivers - 81
Willis - 79
Wittman -73
Rollins - 73

96-97 Utah Jazz (I like using this team... Malone face up jumper all day lol. Ostertag is a beast too lmao 7'1 guy and he averaged like damn near 2 blocks in like 25 minutes so he can swat fools. 3 guys who can rain 3's is nice too)

Malone - 93
Stockton - 87
Hornacek - 78
Bryan Russel - 75
Ostertag - 71

94-95 Magic (Shaq is a fukin Monster... I mean OMG. Dwight's Vert is 88... and I figure he has around a 40 inch vert. Shaq posted a 36... so I figured a 78 vert for Shaq was good. Well a 78 vert at 7'2 is freakin insane. Hardaway is fkin baller too as a 6'7 PG and then you have Scott and Anderson who can rain 3's. Great team... close to the Lakers for the best)

Shaq - 90
Hardaway - 84
Grant - 82
Anderson - 82
Scott - 69

92-93 Phx. Suns (Barkley is pretty tight, gave him a bunch of 2 handed monster dunks for specialty dunks lol... but being only 6'6, he get's blocked sometimes if you have him at PF... So I usually stick him at SF and have Dumas play the 4. KJ is a baller, quick as hell... and then having Chambers at the center to rain 3's is awesome... he didn't start, but he played more minutes than West and is better so I wanted him as the starter instead ha)

Barkley - 94
KJ - 85
Majerly - 81
Dumas - 73
Chambers - 73


the Bulls and Kings are the only ones I have done full rotations of... and since 2k11 is about to come out, they will be the only ones. In 2k11, I will do every team tho. I love playing friends with these rosters, it's so much fun. It's way more fun that just using regular rosters. Some of these guys are definitely too high... but it's kinda hard to make some of them worse based on what I believe there rating should be... the end result always ends up in a good overall rating so I have to lower attributes. The best way to do it is to compare them to players of today and see how those guys are rated... and that's your building point.
I like your ratings. There are a few id diasgree with like if cooper is an 80 (which I agree with) how is rodman a 74? I don't think coops great defense and decent 3pt shooting trumps rodmans very good defense and great rebounding. Rodman should at least be in the 80s. I mean, there's guys on your list that are rated higher than him and they're not better than him. You got byron russel and rodman at the same rating too. Id also raise kareem a bit. And scott is a little too high. But overall great list.

[97 bulls]

brother are you old enough to have seen them actually play in a real game, Not a video game,( I do like the game though) all of the guys mentioned are as good if not better than what i put down, vernon maxwell should be a hall of famer if it wasnt for legal problems, cassell was as good a dribbler as isaiah thomas, and definitely was an 88, 89, bro, the problem with you is that you think you know what your talking about, but you dont.

I can almost bet your under 25. In all respect my advice to you is to watch some of the videos of them playing on youtube and then judge, anybody who has actually watched them play would agree, that most of the guys on that team should be in the hall of fame.

the ratings are based on their real world quality, not what they can do in game.
pm me anytime.


(ive played the game extensively and when it comes to ratings nba live 08, 09, 10 and this game have one thing in common, a 75 is truly a C rating, brothers i dont know if you like your games more difficult than average, but i had a player with a 75 rating and he didnt make it very far, id give 85 a solid rating, are you guys sure your playing nba 2k10, have you seen all the mods to give create a players more points than 20,000, do you know how difficult making a shot in the game is without messing with the sliders.?)
I agree with the 75 being a C maneaater. But I do think your ratings for the rockets is a little high. Sam cassel has never been as good as chris paul and derron williams. But you rated him there. Id give him at best a low 80 maybe an 82. I think they all are just too high. Id even lower drexler to about a 90. But olajuwan is cool.

[Koop1]

Lol Who really gives a **** about ratings

anyone who knows 2k, knows that ratings don't really mean shit

J.R. Smith is better than 90% of dudes rated over 85 anyway in the game

[mananmater]

I agree with the 75 being a C maneaater. But I do think your ratings for the rockets is a little high. Sam cassel has never been as good as chris paul and derron williams. But you rated him there. Id give him at best a low 80 maybe an 82. I think they all are just too high. Id even lower drexler to about a 90. But olajuwan is cool.


Bro chris paul like a 94, and deron is only slightly better than sam was, the rockets were a darned good team, have you ever played nba live 08, play it then tell me if low ratings get you anywhere far.

The rockets is an early example of what the heat are trying to do, except on a grander scale, sam cassell was a premier point, had the speed and defense and passing skills needed.

[97 bulls]

Lol Who really gives a **** about ratings

anyone who knows 2k, knows that ratings don't really mean shit

J.R. Smith is better than 90% of dudes rated over 85 anyway in the game
I don't bthink so. But I guess it depends on how guys play.

[arcslnga]

I remember the days when kobes rating was 99

[Go Getter]

Derrick Rose is rated 85
OJ Mayo is rated 80

Ratings are more of a respect thing in 2k. It really doesn't necessarily correlate to how dominate a player is in the game at least not in any 2k game since 2k6. Many thing comes to play like shoot form, finishing around rim etc etc. Still all and all Rose isn't 5 rating points higher, they probably jacked up his offensive awareness, and put his speed and dunking at 95-99. To cause the gap.

Mayo will always always be more dominate in 2k than Rose. It was that way in 2k9, and 2k10, especially if you put him at point guard. People who have done this know what I am talking about. Mainly because he has the 3 ball shot, that we all tend to fall in love with in 2k, and he can slash and pretty good speed and can dunk in traffic. He is basically Monta Ellis on steroids in 2k.

That was him with an 80 rating. When 2k bumps him up to 90 due to his performance that will happen this year he will become better than Wade easily in 2k11 because he has a jumper and 3 point shot.

Like clockwork, lmao.

Rose>>>Mayo.

Come to grips with it.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

Like clockwork, lmao.

Rose>>>Mayo.

Come to grips with it.

Watch the games.
Mayo> Rose


Me> You


Grizzlies will finish with a better record than Bulls.


book it.

[Rose]

Watch the games.
Mayo> Rose


Me> You


Grizzlies will finish with a better record than Bulls.


book it.
book(marked) it. When the Bulls have the better record will you admit Rose is better than mayo?

[Go Getter]

Watch the games.
Mayo> Rose


Me> You


Grizzlies will finish with a better record than Bulls.


book it.

Seems like the people that voted for ROY don't agree with you.

Anyone that saw Mayo stink it up at point guard in summer league disagrees with you.

Coach K probably disagrees with you after cutting Mayo from Team USA.

2k disagrees with you obviously.

The Grizz would trade Mayo+some for Rose without hesitation.

That "Me>You" line of yours is getting played.

Mayo=80

ROSE=85.

Rose is better and you can't deal with it, lol.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

Seems like the people that voted for ROY don't agree with you.

Anyone that saw Mayo stink it up at point guard in summer league disagrees with you.

Coach K probably disagrees with you after cutting Mayo from Team USA.

2k disagrees with you obviously.

The Grizz would trade Mayo+some for Rose without hesitation.

That "Me>You" line of yours is getting played.

Mayo=80

ROSE=85.

Rose is better and you can't deal with it, lol.


looks like the ohter way round to me? :confusedshrug:

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

book(marked) it. When the Bulls have the better record will you admit Rose is better than mayo?

You should be asking the same question. Mayo will have better stats than Rose. Especially since Rose won't shoot as much with the added fire power.


Predicted Stats:

Rose: 18 points 4 rebounds 6 assists 47% FG 27% 3pt 77% FT
Mayo: 25 points 5 rebounds 6 assists 47% FG 41% 3pt 88% FT

[Rose]

You should be asking the same question. Mayo will have better stats than Rose. Especially since Rose won't shoot as much with the added fire power.


Predicted Stats:

Rose: 18 points 4 rebounds 6 assists 47% FG 27% 3pt 77% FT
Mayo: 25 points 5 rebounds 6 assists 47% FG 41% 3pt 88% FT
Mayo won't average 25 points I guarantee it. And magically Rose's ft% plummets while Mayo's rises?

And Rose averages less points with the same assists? I don't understand your logic.

EDIT: Also I don't think Mayo averages 6 assists till the Grizz(finally) give up Conley. and put Mayo at the point full time.

[Go Getter]

looks like the ohter way round to me? :confusedshrug:


So Rose gets all the accolades that Mayo wants and yet you see him as better?

The good folks at 2k hating on Mayo just like Coach K and the NBA:oldlol:

[Go Getter]

You should be asking the same question. Mayo will have better stats than Rose. Especially since Rose won't shoot as much with the added fire power.


Predicted Stats:

Rose: 18 points 4 rebounds 6 assists 47% FG 27% 3pt 77% FT
Mayo: 25 points 5 rebounds 6 assists 47% FG 41% 3pt 88% FT


Rose has always shot a higher percentage than Mayo yet the added help makes his FG% drop?

Sounds like wishful thinking on your part.

[Go Getter]

EDIT: Also I don't think Mayo averages 6 assists till the Grizz(finally) give up Conley. and put Mayo at the point full time.


Did you see Mayonnaise playing point in the summer league?

If he's complaining about touches now wait until he has to run the point.

The fact that someone who is clearly a SG wants to play point this early in their career is very telling imo.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

Rose has always shot a higher percentage than Mayo yet the added help makes his FG% drop?

Sounds like wishful thinking on your part.

Mayo shot 46% FG last year
Rose shot 49% FG last year.
I see Mayo and Rose have the same raw FG%, which will happen at 47%.

Mayo had a better eFG% and True FG% shooting percentage. That is a much better stat to look at how well someone is shooting from the floor.

[Rose]

Did you see Mayonnaise playing point in the summer league?

If he's complaining about touches now wait until he has to run the point.

The fact that someone who is clearly a SG wants to play point this early in their career is very telling imo.

Lol saw him and laughed. I think he could play a gilbert arenas type point if he works hard enough. But first Memphis has to give up on Conley, and they still haven't. And for the record when Mayo entered the draft he said he'd play point, or the 2, whatever his team wanted him to play.

[Go Getter]

Mayo shot 46% FG last year
Rose shot 49% FG last year.
I see Mayo and Rose have the same raw FG%, which will happen at 47%.

Mayo had a better eFG% and True FG% shooting percentage. That is a much better stat.

It's a better stat for your agenda that it.

That stat penalizes players for taking better shots. Plus Rose gets way more attention from the other team than Mayo.

If Rose chooses to take shots that he can hit better than Mayo this has a better overall FG% that means he is being wiser or just a better shooter.

Rose hit a higher percentage of mid range shots than MAyo did last year yet you keep saying that his jumpshot is better....gotta prove it not just say it.

Anyhow, the only thing Mayo can do better than Rose is chuck three's and shoot free throws and Rose is already gaining ground.

Mayo peeked at 18 man, don't be mad....accept it.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

It's a better stat for your agenda that it.

That stat penalizes players for taking better shots. Plus Rose gets way more attention from the other team than Mayo.

If Rose chooses to take shots that he can hit better than Mayo this has a better overall FG% that means he is being wiser or just a better shooter.

Rose hit a higher percentage of mid range shots than MAyo did last year yet you keep saying that his jumpshot is better....gotta prove it not just say it.

Anyhow, the only thing Mayo can do better than Rose is chuck three's and shoot free throws and Rose is already gaining ground.

Mayo peeked at 18 man, don't be mad....accept it.

Watch the games, teams dare Rose to hit an jump shot, so most of his shots are relevantly uncontested. If anything teams don't guard Rose, they give him room to let him beat him from the outside.

Mayo gets way more attention because he is a lights out shooter. Teams have never ever left him open and they surely don't give him room.

Mayo's midrange shot was not as high this year simply, because he was getting used to moving without the ball and coming off a screen to a catch and shoot over the taller defender. He struggled with it early in the season, but got a lot better as the season went on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL8jvGPVkPI Rose 30 points on Magic. Half of Rose's points came become Nelson didn't respect his jump shot and let him prove he could shoot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJO0zKr13Kc Mayo's 32 points on Spurs. The video does all the talking, Manu Ginobili knows the line head down man down.

Check
Point
Match
Win.

and I am out.

[chazzy]

Isn't Mayo still the 3rd option behind Gay and ZBo?

[magnax1]

I always find the ratings interesting just because I always feel I have to adjust them so much.

[Go Getter]

Watch the games, teams dare Rose to hit an jump shot, so most of his shots are relevantly uncontested. If anything teams don't guard Rose, they give him room to let him beat him from the outside.

Mayo gets way more attention because he is a lights out shooter. Teams have never ever left him open and they surely don't give him room.

Mayo's midrange shot was not as high this year simply, because he was getting used to moving without the ball and coming off a screen to a catch and shoot over the taller defender. He struggled with it early in the season, but got a lot better as the season went on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL8jvGPVkPI Rose 30 points on Magic. Half of Rose's points came become Nelson didn't respect his jump shot and let him prove he could shoot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJO0zKr13Kc Mayo's 32 points on Spurs. The video does all the talking, Manu Ginobili knows the line head down man down.

Check
Point
Match
Win.

and I am out.

Lol@your excuses for your man crush.

Teams back off of Rose because he beats them to the tin so easily.

If He scores thirty because they back off him that's not his fault, it doesn't say anything about his game other than he setting defenders up the right way.

Must hurt you to see that a guy you said was going to be dominant in the league by know isn't even the best guard in his class.

[Al Thornton]

:roll: 25ppg. f*ckin a.

[Go Getter]

:roll: 25ppg. f*ckin a.
Notice how he manipulated his predicted stats so that Mayo was higher than Rose in every category...:roll:

[Birmingham1955]

You fanboys and player homer are awful. grow up. Both Rose and Mayo are two of the best young players in the game with very bright futures.
Rose has obviously had more success individually and from a team aspect. Mayo although not used as much isn't far off. They are what 21 22 years old they still have their whole careers ahead of them.

Rose is a much better athlete, ball handler, passer, slasher
Mayo is a much better shooter, more versatile offensive player and defender.

Scoring is about the same.

[Go Getter]

You fanboys and player homer are awful. grow up. Both Rose and Mayo are two of the best young players in the game with very bright futures.
Rose has obviously had more success individually and from a team aspect. Mayo although not used as much isn't far off. They are what 21 22 years old they still have their whole careers ahead of them.

Rose is a much better athlete, ball handler, passer, slasher
Mayo is a much better shooter, more versatile offensive player and defender.

Scoring is about the same.


You're messing up the fun with all that logic man, back off:lol

[j3lademaster]

You fanboys and player homer are awful. grow up. Both Rose and Mayo are two of the best young players in the game with very bright futures.
Rose has obviously had more success individually and from a team aspect. Mayo although not used as much isn't far off. They are what 21 22 years old they still have their whole careers ahead of them.

Rose is a much better athlete, ball handler, passer, slasher
Mayo is a much better shooter, more versatile offensive player and defender.

Scoring is about the same.

How is Mayo more offensively versatile if Rose is a better ball handler and passer while their "scoring is about the same"? I'm not arguing with your logic just trying to understand it.

Anyway, Rose is a top 5 player in NBA 2k. Many people considered him imbalanced in the game, and if Rashard Lewis looks like Magic Johnson maybe you should up the difficulty level and set sliders at 0 like the rest of us.

[NbaFan432]

These ratings aren't official.

[Birmingham1955]

How is Mayo more offensively versatile if Rose is a better ball handler and passer while their "scoring is about the same"? I'm not arguing with your logic just trying to understand it.

Anyway, Rose is a top 5 player in NBA 2k. Many people considered him imbalanced in the game, and if Rashard Lewis looks like Magic Johnson maybe you should up the difficulty level and set sliders at 0 like the rest of us.

I worded it funny. I mean he can score in more ways. Like coming off of screens and moving without the ball..

They both have their strengths and weaknesses. I think Rose is the better player now overall and from what he has shown, but Mayo has serious game and a bright future. I think it is fair to debate which one of the two will be better in the future. I can not morgage my house with full confidence that Rose will be the better player 5 years from now, especially if Mayo goes to a team that isn't filled with ball hogs like Gay and Z-bo.

Therefore I think it is up for debate. I just didn't like the way the Rose fans and Mayo fans were conducting the debate in this thread. It was more like trying to prove how bad the other player was rather than who was the better one.

[brandonislegend]

Well first of all hello guys, this is my first post, they take a long time to start posting, names Josh, im 33 years old, excuse my typos, I believe i cAN be an extremely valuable asset to this site.


No offense my brother but your ratings are downright ****ed up, sad that Im the only one who notices this, far too many players are not even D league qaulity according to your ratings, you need some help[ brother.


Derrick Rose is more like a 91(hes going to be a blast this season)


Jennings is probably an 87(very good, better than hes ever been this season)


My brothers, I like your opinions of so called "formulas" you took the time to explain, its very amusing. Heres the truth, ratings work none of these ways, you cant base it on stats or other stuff like if he can shoot 3s or not(however the point someone had on centers not being expected to shoot 3s is a good point, as only a very small minority of players ever to be in the nba could reliably hit a 3 pointer). But everything else is garbage.

Basically ratings work on how good the player is as a person, what is his peak, his boiling point, what is he capable of within limits(hits back to the point I had of centers hitting 3s, thats a limit for most men that size).

Bruce Lee was the mj of martial arts, but even what we saw on tv is not a small fraction of what he could really do and was capable of.......

The same with mj, we will never fully understand his effect on the game, and what he could do if you really pushed him, but we have some understanding of that.

The same with ALL other players of the nba, if you played these guys on a good day, even DJ mbenga, they would probably embarrass you, they are all good, some just far better than others, only because they work harder than the disappointing ones.

Brother let me help you with your ratings.

Shaq in 2002 (out of his prime, more like 96) was a 95 or 95.5. Kobe at this time was a 94.

Boozer is probably going to be an 88 this year if not higher.

Roy is probably going to be a 92.



Im the biggest miami heat fan youll ever meet(ive probably already made some enemies on my first post lol, its a joke) so im going to run down what the ratings should be for the team this coming year, if there not on 2k11 itl be highly dissappointing.


ps... Im also a lakers fan, bigtime, but they cant win all the time, takes the competitiveness out of the sport, you feel me?????

MIAMI HEAT----------------------------------



1. Lebron James 99.7. (Hes going to be undescribably good this year)

2. Dwayne Wade 98.1 ( Hes going to be a beast as well as an awesome god of powers in playmaking and scoring)

3. Chris bosh 94.5 (A scoring terror all day long, also a lot of rebounds and locking and rolling, keeping them ahead by 5 or more)

4. Mario chalmers 88.0 ( severly underated, has a killer jumpshot, a slicer and scorer, and decent defense, also has great stamina, will hold the power and be the confirmer this year, him and the center will have plenty of open looks)

5. Zydrunas Ilgauskus 85.0 ( Remember hes have very good performance ever since he hit the league, and his best years are ahead of him)

Bench-------

They have the best bench in the league severly underrated...


6. Carlos arroyo 75.0 (a very hardworking point guard, has a lot of heart, a more than worthy back up for chalmers, good defender)

7.Eddie house 76.9 ( consistent 3 point shooter, doesnt have to be open, can drive, can pass, decent defender)

8. James Jones 69.0 ( 3 point nightmare, can pass)

9. Juwan Howard 82.0 ( anybody remembers his glory days, we have a LOT OF youngsters on this forum, he not only is a vet, but we bill a good hardworking pf for miami, as he will get a lot of baskets this year, as well as a foul attracter, decent at the line)

10. Udonis Haslem 84.3 (Good hardworking pf, motivator, and defender, hustles like hell, gets the foul, makes critical shots)

11. Joel Anthony 78.1 ( great defender, a packer!!!, also has body, makes them work hard for it)

12. Jamal Magloire 74.9 ( another good defender, serious packer ! hard to drive with him in the lane)

13.Mike Miller 81.5 ( Underrated, great 3 point shooter, can drive, and can ball, for a whiteboy he can downright play)

14. Dexter pittman and a few rookies 60- 80 ????? well see if they make it on the team.

15. Erick dampier ????? another iffy, yet if confirmed another bigman who rebounds and makes life difficult for drivers.



There biggest and toughest enemy is Boston, cant wait for the season to start!!!

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[JustinJDW]

Damn, not one Spurs player on that list. Guess I gotta keep waiting. :(

Oh btw, the Heat will be unstoppable online.

[New York Knicks]

You should be asking the same question. Mayo will have better stats than Rose. Especially since Rose won't shoot as much with the added fire power.


Predicted Stats:

Rose: 18 points 4 rebounds 6 assists 47% FG 27% 3pt 77% FT
Mayo: 25 points 5 rebounds 6 assists 47% FG 41% 3pt 88% FT
Mayo won't even have the ball enough to get those stats. Did you already forget about all-about-me Rudy Gay?

[Nash-tastic]

Well first of all hello guys, this is my first post, they take a long time to start posting, names Josh, im 33 years old, excuse my typos, I believe i cAN be an extremely valuable asset to this site.


No offense my brother but your ratings are downright ****ed up, sad that Im the only one who notices this, far too many players are not even D league qaulity according to your ratings, you need some help[ brother.


Derrick Rose is more like a 91(hes going to be a blast this season)


Jennings is probably an 87(very good, better than hes ever been this season)


My brothers, I like your opinions of so called "formulas" you took the time to explain, its very amusing. Heres the truth, ratings work none of these ways, you cant base it on stats or other stuff like if he can shoot 3s or not(however the point someone had on centers not being expected to shoot 3s is a good point, as only a very small minority of players ever to be in the nba could reliably hit a 3 pointer). But everything else is garbage.

Basically ratings work on how good the player is as a person, what is his peak, his boiling point, what is he capable of within limits(hits back to the point I had of centers hitting 3s, thats a limit for most men that size).

Bruce Lee was the mj of martial arts, but even what we saw on tv is not a small fraction of what he could really do and was capable of.......

The same with mj, we will never fully understand his effect on the game, and what he could do if you really pushed him, but we have some understanding of that.

The same with ALL other players of the nba, if you played these guys on a good day, even DJ mbenga, they would probably embarrass you, they are all good, some just far better than others, only because they work harder than the disappointing ones.

Brother let me help you with your ratings.

Shaq in 2002 (out of his prime, more like 96) was a 95 or 95.5. Kobe at this time was a 94.

Boozer is probably going to be an 88 this year if not higher.

Roy is probably going to be a 92.



Im the biggest miami heat fan youll ever meet(ive probably already made some enemies on my first post lol, its a joke) so im going to run down what the ratings should be for the team this coming year, if there not on 2k11 itl be highly dissappointing.


ps... Im also a lakers fan, bigtime, but they cant win all the time, takes the competitiveness out of the sport, you feel me?????

MIAMI HEAT----------------------------------



1. Lebron James 99.7. (Hes going to be undescribably good this year)

2. Dwayne Wade 98.1 ( Hes going to be a beast as well as an awesome god of powers in playmaking and scoring)

3. Chris bosh 94.5 (A scoring terror all day long, also a lot of rebounds and locking and rolling, keeping them ahead by 5 or more)

4. Mario chalmers 88.0 ( severly underated, has a killer jumpshot, a slicer and scorer, and decent defense, also has great stamina, will hold the power and be the confirmer this year, him and the center will have plenty of open looks)

5. Zydrunas Ilgauskus 85.0 ( Remember hes have very good performance ever since he hit the league, and his best years are ahead of him)

Bench-------

They have the best bench in the league severly underrated...


6. Carlos arroyo 75.0 (a very hardworking point guard, has a lot of heart, a more than worthy back up for chalmers, good defender)

7.Eddie house 76.9 ( consistent 3 point shooter, doesnt have to be open, can drive, can pass, decent defender)

8. James Jones 69.0 ( 3 point nightmare, can pass)

9. Juwan Howard 82.0 ( anybody remembers his glory days, we have a LOT OF youngsters on this forum, he not only is a vet, but we bill a good hardworking pf for miami, as he will get a lot of baskets this year, as well as a foul attracter, decent at the line)

10. Udonis Haslem 84.3 (Good hardworking pf, motivator, and defender, hustles like hell, gets the foul, makes critical shots)

11. Joel Anthony 78.1 ( great defender, a packer!!!, also has body, makes them work hard for it)

12. Jamal Magloire 74.9 ( another good defender, serious packer ! hard to drive with him in the lane)

13.Mike Miller 81.5 ( Underrated, great 3 point shooter, can drive, and can ball, for a whiteboy he can downright play)

14. Dexter pittman and a few rookies 60- 80 ????? well see if they make it on the team.

15. Erick dampier ????? another iffy, yet if confirmed another bigman who rebounds and makes life difficult for drivers.



There biggest and toughest enemy is Boston, cant wait for the season to start!!!
Your Heat ratings are :wtf:

[All Net]

big z an 85? Chalmers 88? :roll:

[Nash-tastic]

big z an 85? Chalmers 88? :roll:
That entire list is completely shit

[All Net]

That entire list is completely shit

True but they stuck out the most.

[mayo'sgrizz]

stephen jackson and gerald wallace are beter than oj mayo and rudy gay and andrew bogut....................:oldlol: :facepalm :oldlol: :facepalm

jj hickson should also be higher
evan turner 76?? little too high for me

[mayo'sgrizz]

Mayo won't even have the ball enough to get those stats. Did you already forget about all-about-me Rudy Gay?

you are damn right bout tht dude fuggin rudy:facepalm :facepalm

[mayo'sgrizz]

oh and austin daye and shaun livingston should not be 60.......
lol at monta ellis 85:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Swaggin916]

I like your ratings. There are a few id diasgree with like if cooper is an 80 (which I agree with) how is rodman a 74? I don't think coops great defense and decent 3pt shooting trumps rodmans very good defense and great rebounding. Rodman should at least be in the 80s. I mean, there's guys on your list that are rated higher than him and they're not better than him. You got byron russel and rodman at the same rating too. Id also raise kareem a bit. And scott is a little too high. But overall great list.

Yea the reason he is rated like he is, is because Rodman had very little offensive game... His On Ball D is a like an 90, his post D is like a 96, and his rebounding is 99 both offensive and defensive... but he has no midrange, close, and there is no reason why his offensive awareness should be high considering he never was a good offensive player. His defensive awareness is like a 97 tho. I just adjusted all the attributes and a 74 is what it came out to (His hustle is a 99 too btw).

The guy who said JR smith is better at a 70 or whatever the hell he is than most of the guys in the game is correct. You can bomb 3's with him and get to the basket and dunk over everyone. His awareness is rightfully terrible and hurts his rating.

[TryToBeUnbias]

Damn, not one Spurs player on that list. Guess I gotta keep waiting. :(

Oh btw, the Heat will be unstoppable online.
I wont even attempt to play against them.

[beermonsteroo]

I think they are really rating too high and the supertars are overrated compared to others.
99 should be the perfect player one can think of.

Lebron as the top man should not be higher then 90 or something. Lebron is good, but there's still lot's of space between him and perfection.

[Monroe DaGreat]

Durant should get a 70 just for being the poster boy for the worst basketball simulation game ever NBA Elite 11:banghead: