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Batz
09-22-2010, 08:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLPGDyE5pEE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VPwcYWDNIQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXUi3uSjLys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_q4-JRE_Wo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utBOZL7cJPo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay6MSRHy4Gg

save yo money.

DirkNowitzki41
09-22-2010, 08:41 PM
Tried it. Only thing good is the ESPN stuff, but the gameplay is awful

Samurai Swoosh
09-22-2010, 08:47 PM
http://me.abelcheung.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/beating_dead_horse.gif

BALLin01
09-22-2010, 09:07 PM
The controls were just horrible

New York Knicks
09-22-2010, 09:08 PM
I can't remember the last time Live was actually playable. They should just go ahead and make the complete transformation to NBA Jam and make it 2d.

Batz
09-22-2010, 09:17 PM
I can't remember the last time Live was actually playable. They should just go ahead and make the complete transformation to NBA Jam and make it 2d.
You'd think EA would take a hint by now though.

Clocian-IGN
09-22-2010, 09:18 PM
2k11 >

Maniak
09-22-2010, 09:34 PM
Played it for about 2 minutes.

Almost cried.

imdaman99
09-22-2010, 10:13 PM
:roll: first video bynum frozen at halfcourt standing their like jesus :oldlol:

jbot
09-22-2010, 10:19 PM
they have seriously screwed themselves. they can't even get a damn demo running right? idiots.

Batz
09-22-2010, 11:01 PM
:roll: first video bynum frozen at halfcourt standing their like jesus :oldlol:
The Passion of the Bynum :roll: :roll:

no pun intended
09-22-2010, 11:10 PM
Animations are terrible. I was playing against Gasol and he did a hookshot with his back turned from the basket.

Reverend Hoops
09-23-2010, 12:26 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I haven't laughed this hard in a while.

JohnWall2
09-23-2010, 12:28 AM
the demo shyt is crap

Batz
09-23-2010, 01:49 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I haven't laughed this hard in a while.
KG dunk killed me... :oldlol:

Doranku
09-23-2010, 02:00 AM
Seriously some of the funniest videos I've ever seen. Repped. :roll: :roll: :roll:

All Net
09-23-2010, 02:03 AM
Saving my money for 2K11

Going to pre-order it at the weekend.

Batz
09-23-2010, 05:02 AM
Saving my money for 2K11

Going to pre-order it at the weekend.
:cheers:

d.bball.guy
09-23-2010, 05:40 AM
funny guy: the f*** was that? this game is crazy!

NuggetsFan
09-23-2010, 05:48 AM
For some stupid reason the past years I've purchased both 2k and EA. This year I don't even think I'll even bother trying EA. I wish one franchise would just completely devote themselves to realism. EA seems to have arcade down pat.

dbugz
09-23-2010, 06:10 AM
http://lakers.topbuzz.com/gallery/d/17284-1/The+coaching+staff+Brian+Shaw_+Kurt+Rambis_+and+Ph il+Jackson+look+on.jpg

@Bynum


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:



Another one..

On the 1st video, kobe made a simple layup and the Lakers' bench reaction was just like Kobe made an extraordinary dunk or a winning game basket


EA :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Fizdale
09-23-2010, 06:37 AM
im in tears, lmfao!!! especially dat kg i believe i can fly one, bwahahahahahha

:roll:

Ruh-Roh
09-23-2010, 06:40 AM
KG dunk killed me... :oldlol:

The R Kelly track was perfect.:roll:

Bcogswell
09-23-2010, 07:06 AM
Game looks like shit, and will be shit. 2k is getting my money once again.

evilmonkey
09-23-2010, 07:15 AM
lol @ Bynum standing like Jesus in the middle of the court! hahahahhaha

indiefan24
09-23-2010, 07:20 AM
Which ISH posters said Elite was going to be better than 2K11?

Glide2keva
09-23-2010, 08:29 AM
I've been saying this for years (since 2k debuted). Live has been crap for over a decade.

Nelson14
09-23-2010, 08:37 AM
will be getting this :eek:

niko
09-23-2010, 08:40 AM
I didn't like the demo too much. 2K's was better, there were still some things that bothered me but i didn't even like playing the Elite game. The controls were ehh and the way the other players reacted bothered me. The players on the bench reacting i liked but it's too much, every shot is like WOW! WTF! DID YOU SEE WHAT HE DID? If it just happened time to time it would be better.

PowerGlove
09-23-2010, 08:42 AM
I've been saying this mfor years (since 2k debuted). Live has been crap for over a decade.
:wtf:

Are you serious? Live was way better than 2k for four years. Do you even remember 2k basketball games before 2k6

d.bball.guy
09-23-2010, 08:43 AM
One thing that bothered me the most is when Pierce got a 3-pointer and the crowd goes loud!

Scribbles
09-23-2010, 08:43 AM
OMG LOL@First video. Commentary made it even better

PowerGlove
09-23-2010, 08:44 AM
I didn't like the demo too much. 2K's was better, there were still some things that bothered me but i didn't even like playing the Elite game. The controls were ehh and the way the other players reacted bothered me. The players on the bench reacting i liked but it's too much, every shot is like WOW! WTF! DID YOU SEE WHAT HE DID? If it just happened time to time it would be better.
It was the 4th quarter of game 7, obviously every possession/score is a big deal.

niko
09-23-2010, 08:49 AM
It was the 4th quarter of game 7, obviously every possession/score is a big deal.

They reacted the same every shot. I guarantee it won't be context sensitive, it never is.

PowerGlove
09-23-2010, 08:57 AM
They reacted the same every shot. I guarantee it won't be context sensitive, it never is.
You have a point there.

Elite wasn't all that bad, I give it a 5 out of ten. I see where they are trying to go with the whole concept of a basketball game and I think next they will be great.

I was really disappointed by it, and honestly thought they would be further along than this. I like the controls and the movement of the players(2k is still too rigid, every game I'm fighting with my player to get him to go in the direction I want him to) and the commentary. The defensive AI wasn't bad and Ray Allen really played great defense against me.

The bad? Graphics were not up to par, the shot animations were not right, post game is still garbage(I dont know if I should put this in since that we don't know all the controls), they need to downrate everyone's vertical in this game.

The main thing I liked about it was the way the players moved, I went back and forth between the 2k11 demo and the elite demo and that is the one thing I couldn't stand about 2k11. It is still a pain in the ass to move with the ball in this game.

PowerGlove
09-23-2010, 08:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLPGDyE5pEE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VPwcYWDNIQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXUi3uSjLys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_q4-JRE_Wo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utBOZL7cJPo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay6MSRHy4Gg

save yo money.

The third link is from Live 10, check the upload date. Check the comments. Look at the footage.:facepalm

indiefan24
09-23-2010, 09:03 AM
:wtf:

Are you serious? Live was way better than 2k for four years. Do you even remember 2k basketball games before 2k6

I remember playing NBA 2K on Dreamcast and thinking it was light years ahead of anything Live ever did.

PowerGlove
09-23-2010, 09:09 AM
I remember playing NBA 2K on Dreamcast and thinking it was light years ahead of anything Live ever did.
:oldlol:

Live 2000 was better than 2k, trust me. I got my dreamcast on 9/9/99 and the only thing 2k had on live was graphics and online play.

Then let's not forget about when isomotion was a button while live had freestyle dribbling.:rolleyes: That whole era live OWNED 2k hard.

Batz
09-23-2010, 09:11 AM
The third link is from Live 10, check the upload date. Check the comments. Look at the footage.:facepalm
One video nice live fan boy... You can't backup the rest. Please don't tell me you're gonna try and defend the jesus mode now... :oldlol:

jbot
09-23-2010, 09:12 AM
:oldlol:

Live 2000 was better than 2k, trust me. I got my dreamcast on 9/9/99 and the only thing 2k had on live was graphics and online play.

Then let's not forget about when isomotion was a button while live had freestyle dribbling.:rolleyes: That whole era live OWNED 2k hard.
i remember one version of live was better on the original playstation than it was on ps2. that's crazy enough. must have been like '00 or '01.

indiefan24
09-23-2010, 09:13 AM
:oldlol:

Live 2000 was better than 2k, trust me. I got my dreamcast on 9/9/99 and the only thing 2k had on live was graphics and online play.

Then let's not forget about when isomotion was a button while live had freestyle dribbling.:rolleyes: That whole era live OWNED 2k hard.

Yeah maybe it was the graphics that made me overlook everything else, but I enjoyed it.

On a different but related note, I totally thought NFL 2K had Madden on it's heels until EA completely bought out the NFL rights in 2004.

niko
09-23-2010, 09:14 AM
You have a point there.

Elite wasn't all that bad, I give it a 5 out of ten. I see where they are trying to go with the whole concept of a basketball game and I think next they will be great.

I was really disappointed by it, and honestly thought they would be further along than this. I like the controls and the movement of the players(2k is still too rigid, every game I'm fighting with my player to get him to go in the direction I want him to) and the commentary. The defensive AI wasn't bad and Ray Allen really played great defense against me.

The bad? Graphics were not up to par, the shot animations were not right, post game is still garbage(I dont know if I should put this in since that we don't know all the controls), they need to downrate everyone's vertical in this game.

The main thing I liked about it was the way the players moved, I went back and forth between the 2k11 demo and the elite demo and that is the one thing I couldn't stand about 2k11. It is still a pain in the ass to move with the ball in this game.

What kills me about the EA games is they always have these great player / crowd reactions but they never make them context sensitive. It doesn't strike me as that difficult to do. If game is within 5 points and 1 minute and you hit shot, everyone jump up. That would be so cool. But nope, it's all or nothing 95% of the time....

PowerGlove
09-23-2010, 09:15 AM
One video nice live fan boy... You can't backup the rest. Please don't tell me you're gonna try and defend the jesus mode now... :oldlol:
You are a dumbass, I laughed the first time I saw it a long time ago(tuesday). Why would I try to defend the game and how am I a fanboy? I'm just tired of 2k being so god damn lazy. The have been using the same engine since 2k7. This shit is out of hand, the movement is still garbage. I hate that.

Batz
09-23-2010, 09:17 AM
You are a dumbass, I laughed the first time I saw it a long time ago(tuesday). Why would I try to defend the game and how am I a fanboy? I'm just tired of 2k being so god damn lazy. The have been using the same engine since 2k7. This shit is out of hand, the movement is still garbage. I hate that.
You can tell me all the bullshit you want but right now I see is a live fanboy getting virtually whooped and going crazy replying to every post to try and defend Live/Elite and himself. Try and be less obvious first before you lie.

PowerGlove
09-23-2010, 09:18 AM
Yeah maybe it was the graphics that made me overlook everything else, but I enjoyed it.

On a different but related note, I totally thought NFL 2K had Madden on it's heels until EA completely bought out the NFL rights in 2004.

NFL 2k was better than Madden, but NBA Live 2000/02(arguable)/03/04/05(Live was killing 2K) was better than 2k.

PowerGlove
09-23-2010, 09:21 AM
You can tell me all the bullshit you want but right now I see is a live fanboy getting virtually whooped and going crazy replying to every post to try and defend Live/Elite and himself. Try and be less obvious first before you lie.
Dude are you serious? I haven't bought a live game since 05. I have mentioned time and time again that NBA Live 06 is the worst basketball game I've ever played but I'm a live fanboy. I made fun of Samurai Swoosh all last year for thinking live is better but somehow I'm a live fanboy? SMH. I have a copy of 2k10 right beside me, but I'm a live fanboy?:facepalm

You are retarded.

Anyways, as I said before, I just want a basketball game where I'm in control at all times. That's all. It should be the most skilled player and the best decision maker that wins the game, not some bum who choose the Lakers and drops 40 with Kobe in the most ridiculous fashion.

Last night I fired up 2k10 and Gasol slammed home a put back dunk over Bynum, Quentin Richardson, Jermaine O'neal and Michael Beasley. Gasol was halfway out to freethrow line and he just elevates and slams it over everyone. That is garbage.

Batz
09-23-2010, 09:22 AM
Dude are you serious? I haven't bought a live game since 05. I have mentioned time and time again that NBA Live 06 is the worst basketball game I've ever played but I'm a live fanboy. I made fun of Samurai Swoosh all last year for thinking live is better but somehow I'm a live fanboy? SMH. I have a copy of 2k10 right beside me, but I'm a live fanboy?:facepalm

You are retarded.
Just take a stepback from the monitor, hit page 2, and see for yourself.

PowerGlove
09-23-2010, 09:26 AM
:wtf:

Are you serious? Live was way better than 2k for four years. Do you even remember 2k basketball games before 2k6

This is why you are calling me a live fanboy? Because I tell the truth? SMH.

Batz
09-23-2010, 09:30 AM
This is why you are calling me a live fanboy? Because I tell the truth? SMH.
You're not helping your case. :lol

PowerGlove
09-23-2010, 09:31 AM
You're not helping your case. :lol
So you think 2k was better all decade?

catch24
09-23-2010, 09:32 AM
Just take a stepback from the monitor, hit page 2, and see for yourself.

Wouldn't he have to be in front of the monitor to hit page 2?

Batz
09-23-2010, 09:32 AM
No, mister live fan boy. But it's definately whooped EA for the past 4-5 years or so. Literally pissed on it's front desk. And I can tell that's killing you inside.

Batz
09-23-2010, 09:33 AM
Wouldn't he have to be in front of the monitor to hit page 2?
he can take the mouse back with him or just reach for the damn thing. no need to be lazy here.

indiefan24
09-23-2010, 09:34 AM
The only shit that just got serious is the one between Batz and Powerglove.

:oldlol:

PowerGlove
09-23-2010, 09:35 AM
No, mister live fan boy. But it's definately whooped EA for the past 4-5 years or so. Literally pissed on it's front desk. And I can tell that's killing you inside.
That's obvious, I didnt say anything otherwise. :facepalm It's not killing me inside, I have NBA 2k10 and 2k7 right here. Why would it kill me? I buy the game I like.

jbot
09-23-2010, 09:35 AM
there might have been a year or 2 where live might have been either been a little better or equal, but for the most part 2k has been winning for a long time.

PowerGlove
09-23-2010, 09:39 AM
there might have been a year or 2 where live might have been either been a little better or equal, but for the most part 2k has been winning for a long time.
They've been better since 2006.

These are the best games each year imo:

NBA Live 2000
NBA 2k1
NBA 2k2/Live 2002
Live 2003(by far)
Live 2004(by far)
Live 2005(Miles)
NBA 2k6(Light years ahead of live 06)
NBA 2k7(Might be 2k's GOAT game)
NBA 2k8
NBA 2k9
NBA 2k10(marginally better than Live, ea did a remarkable job here)

Batz
09-23-2010, 09:48 AM
That's obvious, I didnt say anything otherwise. :facepalm It's not killing me inside, I have NBA 2k10 and 2k7 right here. Why would it kill me? I buy the game I like.
Just f*cking up your insides right now to see these videos. Like lucky charms guy taking a piss on your heart.

The only shit that just got serious is the one between Batz and Powerglove.

:oldlol:
Guys out to get me for some reason. :rolleyes:

DPittman
09-23-2010, 10:12 AM
powerglove is right with that list, live was really good early on but only in the past few years has it been shitty, and live 10 was very close to catching up to 2k again

Calabis
09-23-2010, 10:17 AM
This shit hasn't evolved since 1997:roll:

Now if only the NFL would quit giving EA its damn license, I can't imagine what 2K would have done with football

Glide2keva
09-23-2010, 10:49 AM
:wtf:

Are you serious? Live was way better than 2k for four years. Do you even remember 2k basketball games before 2k6
I've played 2k since the dreamcast and have always preferred it to live. Live during that time was coasting on its' name and not improving the game. Live 99 was about as perfect a live gAme as you were going to get.

The problems you see in the video have always been in live, since the ps2 days. The only live I liked since then was 03 and that was because 2k3 was crap, live wasn't any better in my opinion so it was a best of the worst situation.

The only who bought live over 2k were die hard live fanboys who just bashed 2k without playing it and love those arcade type games.

SCREWstonRockets
09-23-2010, 11:01 AM
This game looks so scripted. They don't react to what the defense is doing, they just go straight through the play. You leave them open, the won't shoot it unless thats the play. Double team? Forget the pass out, its going to finish the play. 2K use to be scripted like that too but that was years ago.

Kebab Stall
09-23-2010, 11:05 AM
Looks live they purposely decided to make the game as bad as they possibly could. They should just pack up their shit and find new jobs, because 2k absolutely destroys them in every single aspect of a basketball computer game.

PowerGlove
09-23-2010, 11:19 AM
I've played 2k since the dreamcast and have always preferred it to live. Live during that time was coasting on its' name and not improving the game. Live 99 was about as perfect a live gAme as you were going to get.

The problems you see in the video have always been in live, since the ps2 days. The only live I liked since then was 03 and that was because 2k3 was crap, live wasn't any better in my opinion so it was a best of the worst situation.

The only who bought live over 2k were die hard live fanboys who just bashed 2k without playing it and love those arcade type games.
Are you serious? 2k3/4/5 was/is/and always will be garbage. It was just as "realistic" as Live, wait, it wasn't even close to Live. Isomotion was still a f*cking button. One press and you are by your defender. Some uber realism there. Then they had the most retarded free shooting mechanism that was completely shitty if you don't have an xbox(trigger related).

niko
09-23-2010, 11:21 AM
Why are you people arguing this? 2k11 is better so that's what i'll buy. If Elite was better i'd buy that, although i'm not holding my breath unless they get a new team as the current one doesn't feel like they understand basketball so much.

olddangerfield
09-23-2010, 11:27 AM
I'll go out on a limb here and say that the person announcing in the video is black.

olddangerfield
09-23-2010, 11:34 AM
I'm new to NBA games.. I use to enjoy playing the NCAA hoops basketball games.

What do you guys recommend if I'm getting an NBA game? 2k? Live? I like arcade-style NBA games only if it's done well. I also really like realistic simulation based NBA games. (salary cap implications and all that)

PowerGlove
09-23-2010, 11:36 AM
Get 2K11.

Glide2keva
09-23-2010, 11:51 AM
Are you serious? 2k3/4/5 was/is/and always will be garbage. It was just as "realistic" as Live, wait, it wasn't even close to Live. Isomotion was still a f*cking button. One press and you are by your defender. Some uber realism there. Then they had the most retarded free shooting mechanism that was completely shitty if you don't have an xbox(trigger related).
I'll give you 2k3 but you are completely off your rocker if you think any live game was miles better than anything 2k put out overall. That's why you're getting the fanboy calls.

You're in defending live like they are paying you. I've played live since before it was live. Back when it was lakers vs. celtics, so I have a long history with the game. I'm not someone who just started playing in 2005.

gasolina
09-23-2010, 11:58 AM
Are you serious? 2k3/4/5 was/is/and always will be garbage. It was just as "realistic" as Live, wait, it wasn't even close to Live. Isomotion was still a f*cking button. One press and you are by your defender. Some uber realism there. Then they had the most retarded free shooting mechanism that was completely shitty if you don't have an xbox(trigger related).
2k3/4/5 was/is/and always will be garbage?

Here's Metacritic's ratings from 2003-2005

NBA 2k3 - 89
NBA Live 2003 - 83

NBA 2k4 - 89
NBA Live 2004 - 86

NBA 2k5 - 83
NBA Live 2005 - 84

In those three years only once did Live get one up over 2K, and it's only by one point.

So if you say that 2k from 03-05 was "garbage"... then Live 2003 was "super garbage", Live 2004 was "more garbage" and Live 2005 was "slightly less garbage"

Metacritic collates are ratings by all reviewers. I guess your opinion > all of them right? :rolleyes:

PowerGlove
09-23-2010, 12:22 PM
2k3/4/5 was/is/and always will be garbage?

Here's Metacritic's ratings from 2003-2005

NBA 2k3 - 89
NBA Live 2003 - 83

NBA 2k4 - 89
NBA Live 2004 - 86

NBA 2k5 - 83
NBA Live 2005 - 84

In those three years only once did Live get one up over 2K, and it's only by one point.

So if you say that 2k from 03-05 was "garbage"... then Live 2003 was "super garbage", Live 2004 was "more garbage" and Live 2005 was "slightly less garbage"

Metacritic collates are ratings by all reviewers. I guess your opinion > all of them right? :rolleyes:

Metacritic?:facepalm :lol

Metacritic's Live 06 rating:77.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/nba-live-06

GTFO.

I'm giving this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFVBjo26HNk) a 77 out of 100 rating.

catch24
09-23-2010, 12:51 PM
I haven't played live since 2004... All the models now look hunchbacked and ugly as shit (same as 2k, which I've never really been a fan of).

The PC version looked pretty cool, though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEsAJQTy-SA -- really sick video.

gasolina
09-23-2010, 12:59 PM
Metacritic?:facepalm :lol

Metacritic's Live 06 rating:77.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/nba-live-06

GTFO.

I'm giving this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFVBjo26HNk) a 77 out of 100 rating.
Yeah the same game who got rated a 64 on the Xbox 360.

juju151111
09-23-2010, 01:43 PM
I would say Live was better for 3 years out of the decade. Also 2k has start off this decade with a win. 2k11>shitty elite.

ILLsmak
09-23-2010, 01:47 PM
They say the Jesus Glitch is fixed and the Rocket Dunks, too...

I dunno though. Things like that don't bother me... but the more I think about it, it kind of makes me sad.

I know I am not going to get 2k11. I might snag it on PC to play offline and save some money. But I dunno. 2k has really gotten bad. They are just fluffing the same crap.

Elite is OUT THERE, though, isn't it? I was really thinking about it and I think it's cool what they are trying to do, but I really think they might have done too much.

2k obviously doesn't give you enough control as a user, so that is probably where they are coming from, but you can't strip down everything and make it like you did Elite.

I really want to play some game for this next year because I love online basketball... but I don't really know which one I can get. At least half of the people that I know that are hardcore Live fans think Elite is lame. There are a few that are hardcore practicing, though.

I think that anyone who says the controls are crap obviously didn't give the game enough time It's more that they personally are not learning the controls. But... the control is good. But it's not user friendly and I don't know if I like how much they stripped it down. I dunno if I can immerse myself in it. I am putting off really 'going hard' on the demo and deciding whether or not to buy it because I am still enjoying Live 10 and I know that if I get into Elite mode I won't be able to play Live 10 at the level I play it now.

-Smak

ILLsmak
09-23-2010, 01:52 PM
2k3/4/5 was/is/and always will be garbage?

Here's Metacritic's ratings from 2003-2005

NBA 2k3 - 89
NBA Live 2003 - 83

NBA 2k4 - 89
NBA Live 2004 - 86

NBA 2k5 - 83
NBA Live 2005 - 84

In those three years only once did Live get one up over 2K, and it's only by one point.

So if you say that 2k from 03-05 was "garbage"... then Live 2003 was "super garbage", Live 2004 was "more garbage" and Live 2005 was "slightly less garbage"

Metacritic collates are ratings by all reviewers. I guess your opinion > all of them right? :rolleyes:

Double post.

Since netplay has become standard for me (05), I've only played 2k for two years... 2k7 and 2k8. I can't believe anyone is gonna sit here and say Live 07 and 08 were good. I can see how people didn't like 06 because there was a lot you could do that was just bogus. Kind of the same issue that arose in 09.

The whole 'superstar moves' were kind of ridiculous when used online. I'd get the win, in the end, but I seriously would play someone who ONLY did superstar moves (just like people in 09 who ONLY did go-to moves) and would be neck and neck until the 4th. I'm not gonna lie I was amazingly good at 06. Seriously, like in terms of people who didn't all out glitch I'd say I was one of the best online. I never saw anyone who could beat me that wasn't totally glitching and a little skilled, too.

But it really was lame that people could sustain themselves vs the high level gamers by just playing BS so they must have been trashing those that were mediocre. That's one thing that looks fun about Elite... if they make it so that there's no BS and it really is the best player wins, I will be into it no matter how lame and dry it looks.

-Smak

Ketchup
09-23-2010, 01:58 PM
I think that Live03/04/05 were better than 2k as well, but I really hate the way you move in 2k games. It looks great, but it feels like something is always dragging you in the other direction.

RaceBannana
09-23-2010, 02:13 PM
Live 03 > 2k3?
2k3 was that bad?
i haven

ALLsOp
09-23-2010, 03:00 PM
im literally in tears over that first video :oldlol:

gasolina
09-23-2010, 03:05 PM
Here's my story.

I was an avid Live gamer of NBA Live on the SNES until 96, and then on the PC until 98, on the PS for 99, 2000, and then came NBA Live 2001 on the PS2.

Live 2001 was the time Live showed cracks. Gameplay on 2000 on the PS was way better than 2001 on the PS2. The only thing 2001 had was graphics. You couldn't finish layups with a defender shadowing because you'd have to be extremely free to do a basic layup or drive until you're beneath the basket and do an "underneath the basket layup". I always thought maybe Live was just adjusting on the PS2 and would do better in 2002.

Then it happened, NBA Live 2002 was the biggest piece of crap ever. You get exploding sound effects for making threes and a ball shadow a-la NBA Jam when you block shots. To top it all off, you can't get defensive rebounds off missed free throws. 100% of the time it'll be an offensive rebound and a dunk.

This made me go searching for a new bball game. That's when I saw NBA 2k2. Sure 2k2 doesn't have the level of detail that Live had but it fixed the most fundamental thing, gameplay.

It's 2K for me ever since. I would still buy Live until 2k6, just to see what they'd offer, but 2k's been on a roll ever since that there's hardly any reason at all to change.

People would say "it's the same thing all over again" which might be true, but why fix what's not broken? What 2k does is add bits and pieces every year and it worked. The reason why I will buy 2k is because I enjoy the gameplay and know that 2k11 would probably be close to 2k10 quality wise, which I still play even today.

Rowe
09-23-2010, 03:12 PM
Here's my story.

I was an avid Live gamer of NBA Live on the SNES until 96, and then on the PC until 98, on the PS for 99, 2000, and then came NBA Live 2001 on the PS2.

Live 2001 was the time Live showed cracks. Gameplay on 2000 on the PS was way better than 2001 on the PS2. The only thing 2001 had was graphics. You couldn't finish layups with a defender shadowing because you'd have to be extremely free to do a basic layup or drive until you're beneath the basket and do an "underneath the basket layup". I always thought maybe Live was just adjusting on the PS2 and would do better in 2002.

Then it happened, NBA Live 2002 was the biggest piece of crap ever. You get exploding sound effects for making threes and a ball shadow a-la NBA Jam when you block shots. To top it all off, you can't get defensive rebounds off missed free throws. 100% of the time it'll be an offensive rebound and a dunk.

This made me go searching for a new bball game. That's when I saw NBA 2k2. Sure 2k2 doesn't have the level of detail that Live had but it fixed the most fundamental thing, gameplay.

It's 2K for me ever since. I would still buy Live until 2k6, just to see what they'd offer, but 2k's been on a roll ever since that there's hardly any reason at all to change.

People would say "it's the same thing all over again" which might be true, but why fix what's not broken? What 2k does is add bits and pieces every year and it worked. The reason why I will buy 2k is because I enjoy the gameplay and know that 2k11 would probably be close to 2k10 quality wise, which I still play even today.

Have you read the Insights for 2K11?

You're going to orgasm once you see how they answered nearly everything fans wanted in the game for 2K11.


No more black silhouettes for created players/draft picks.

evilmonkey
09-23-2010, 03:13 PM
Am i the only one who will be getting this game just for laughs? :lol Its like the Monty Python version of NBA or something.

Styles p
09-23-2010, 03:20 PM
dude i literally cried watching that video. the guys what the ****s were funny enough then the jesus. i like how he didnt notice he was standing there at first.

OnceInADECADE
09-23-2010, 03:26 PM
thank God i pre-order 2k already

Batz
09-23-2010, 03:27 PM
[QUOTE=RaceBannana]Live 03 > 2k3?
2k3 was that bad?
i haven

jaydacris
09-23-2010, 03:32 PM
NBA Elite 11 - Shit just got serious.... ly terrible

sfballa13
09-23-2010, 05:40 PM
I bought Live last year and I can not believe my eyes.

The game was alright last year, even fun, but this year it seems like the game has taken about 10 steps back from last year.

This is truly embarassing and I am glad it has happened. EA continuously puts out junk and idiotic people run to the stores to buy it.

I preordered 2K11 on Amazon for $55 Dollars w/ delivery day shipping.

I also got a $10 dollar credit for future purchases just for pre-ordering it.

You guys might wanna check that ish out, you'll save about 8 dollars (game will be 60+tax) and you'll get 10 dollars off a future purchase making the game 45 dollars.

Farx EA, 2K11 with the GOAT

AI3Anthony
09-23-2010, 05:48 PM
LMFAO. Elite 11 is absolute trash!

Batz
09-23-2010, 07:38 PM
NBA Elite 11 - Shit just got serious.... ly terrible
:applause:

thejumpa
09-23-2010, 07:42 PM
Wow I haven't even DL'ed the Elite demo yet. Is it that bad? I've never bought a 2K game in my life and have played Live games forever. Please tell me it's not that bad.

PowerGlove
09-23-2010, 07:43 PM
Wow I haven't even DL'ed the Elite demo yet. Is it that bad? I've never bought a 2K game in my life and have played Live games forever. Please tell me it's not that bad.
It's that bad. There are only a couple good things about the game, but the rest is not up to par.

bagelred
09-23-2010, 07:54 PM
What's wrong with you people? Andrew Bynum does that crucifix thing EVERY GAME. You never noticed that?


Just true to life........

thejumpa
09-23-2010, 07:55 PM
It's that bad. There are only a couple good things about the game, but the rest is not up to par.

Damn. Looks like I'll be picking up 2K11. I was looking forward to playing with some old school Sonics teams anyway.

PowerGlove
09-23-2010, 07:57 PM
Damn. Looks like I'll be picking up 2K11. I was looking forward to playing with some old school Sonics teams anyway.
PS3 or 360



































or Wii?

thejumpa
09-23-2010, 08:00 PM
PS3 or 360



































or Wii?

lol PS3. Holla at me. My name is Two02x3. I was a beast on Live so 2K11 shouldn't be any different.

Gundress
09-23-2010, 08:05 PM
I played Demo....it's really f*cking suck and I don't understand why anybody like Live game. I don't even like Live anymore, I used to be a huge fan but 2K just better.

bagelred
09-23-2010, 08:06 PM
They made some improvements for 2012. Take a look:

http://www.atariage.com/2600/screenshots/s_Basketball_1.png

PowerGlove
09-23-2010, 08:08 PM
lol PS3. Holla at me. My name is Two02x3. I was a beast on Live so 2K11 shouldn't be any different.
Ps3? Oh snap, its a wrap bro.

Anyone that wants to get it on PS3, can add me, PowerGlove18 and get whooped.

Maniak
09-23-2010, 09:21 PM
Its...so..bad...

jbot
09-23-2010, 09:40 PM
They made some improvements for 2012. Take a look:

http://www.atariage.com/2600/screenshots/s_Basketball_1.png
i remember playing that and thinking it was the shit. :oldlol:

AI3Anthony
09-23-2010, 10:20 PM
I'll go ahead and be the 100th post in this thread.

Elite 11 sucks testicles.

Replay32
09-23-2010, 10:54 PM
This game is a disgrace. But then again it's pure comedy. This release has to be a joke. We are in 2010. I'm at a loss for words. Elite 11 is boo boo.

Replay32
09-23-2010, 10:56 PM
They made some improvements for 2012. Take a look:

http://www.atariage.com/2600/screenshots/s_Basketball_1.png

I used to play the hell out of this game on my atari 2600. And now elite 11 has taken steps backwards and expect cats to shell out 65 bucks. I should boycott and never buy anything EA related ever again.

Never mind. Dead Space 2 is coming out. LOL

bagelred
09-23-2010, 11:37 PM
i remember playing that and thinking it was the shit. :oldlol:

It you were beating the computer, he would play his ASS off to come back and tie it.

Good times.........

kabalcage
09-23-2010, 11:51 PM
Finally played the PS3 demo and it was more fun that I thought it'd be. The game has potential and I would consider buying it if it was a $10 downloadable title. There are good ideas here.

For instance, I always liked the game Skate, it had simple analog based controls that were simple to use but incredibly deep. Elite follows similar principles, the right analog represent your hands, you go to your left hand and right at will and push up to shoot. It's easier than 2k11 and it seems like it could be fun.

A theoretical one on one mode looks like it could pretty fun. If they would just made the game one on one and online as a cheap downloadable title, I think they have a winner. Defense is pretty fun too. When the teammates come into play, the game become a mess of poor AI and glitches.

I had a situation in my Jordan Rookie game were our team was up 1 and playing defense. Unfortunately, I noticed nobody was guard John Wall or Cousins. Two of my players (TWO!!) were stuck in Jesus mode at half court. Amazingly, John Wall just iso dribbled against nothing and took a long jumper at the buzzer to lose. If he would've drove or passed to Cousins, they would've won the game.

This game needs to take a year off and it could really be something. Bundling Jam is just admitting that the main product isn't up to snuff and worth the $60 price tag.

I haven't played Live in a while (2003 was the last) and it seems they are still reusing assets from the older renditions (as far back as Live 98 with some dunks). The whole animation system is antiquated and embarrassing for a 2010 videogame. I can't believe Elite exists in a world with 2k11, Madden, Backbreaker and Uncharted. Plays like a game I played on the PC six years ago with updated rosters.

UK-NJ
09-24-2010, 12:01 AM
I haven't read the entire thread, but has the hook shot glitch vid been posted yet? :oldlol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTTKap_V0s0

JM720
09-24-2010, 12:22 AM
I haven't read the entire thread, but has the hook shot glitch vid been posted yet? :oldlol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTTKap_V0s0

:facepalm

:roll: :roll:

Batz
09-24-2010, 08:23 AM
I haven't read the entire thread, but has the hook shot glitch vid been posted yet? :oldlol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTTKap_V0s0
:wtf:

Monkey D Dragon
09-24-2010, 08:35 AM
I laugh so hard on the first clip :applause:

Rake2204
09-24-2010, 09:03 AM
2k3/4/5 was/is/and always will be garbage?

Here's Metacritic's ratings from 2003-2005

NBA 2k3 - 89
NBA Live 2003 - 83

NBA 2k4 - 89
NBA Live 2004 - 86

NBA 2k5 - 83
NBA Live 2005 - 84

In those three years only once did Live get one up over 2K, and it's only by one point.

So if you say that 2k from 03-05 was "garbage"... then Live 2003 was "super garbage", Live 2004 was "more garbage" and Live 2005 was "slightly less garbage"

Metacritic collates are ratings by all reviewers. I guess your opinion > all of them right? :rolleyes:
Well, to be fair, there is undeniably no way NBA2K4 was a good basketball game. To have it receive the highest score of all the games mentioned is an abomination. Unfortunately, this fact sort of makes all the scores noted moot.

I'll argue for NBA2K3 and NBA2K2 though. In fact, the only reason I even made the switch to 2K was due to Live's futility in their Live '02 campaign. I've been satisfied with each 2K released with the exception of 2004. As such, it's tough for me to say whether Live had the advantage on them each year because honestly, when a person is used to playing one game and then tries to play the other, it feels so awkward that often there is not a good taste left after a brief play.

I saw a few people questioning what NBA2K has changed or added this year. And since I just happen to be a guy following their release of information relatively closely, I'll share the latest link of changes, on their Association Mode (aka Franchise). Links to other changes are found at the bottom of that page (Presentation, Playcall, Control, etc.).

Association: http://community.2ksports.com/community/insights/

niko
09-24-2010, 09:05 AM
2k11 looks good if flawed. Elite looks like an utter mess. Who gives a flying f*** which game was better in 2004?

I never understood the people who cling to one series or another, when i found out how good FIFA 2010 was i was thrilled beyond belief, i always liked PES gameplay better but that game kicked ass, so i switched loyalties in about ten seconds.

mmsupra
09-24-2010, 09:11 AM
Wow they really gonna release this with this glitch? Has anyone from EA spoke about these issues that are coming up????:facepalm

Rake2204
09-24-2010, 09:13 AM
Wow they really gonna release this with this glitch? Has anyone from EA spoke about these issues that are coming up????:facepalm
I think I read a post in this thread stating Jesus Glitch had been addressed, though I'm not sure if they clarified whether that'd be fixed by release or in an early patch.

d.bball.guy
09-24-2010, 10:56 AM
Only thing Elite>2K is the cover:violin:

New York Knicks
09-24-2010, 11:03 AM
Only thing Elite>2K is the cover:violin:
Oh I see what you did there.

gasolina
09-24-2010, 11:04 AM
I think I read a post in this thread stating Jesus Glitch had been addressed, though I'm not sure if they clarified whether that'd be fixed by release or in an early patch.
Did EA actually say that they fixed the "Jesus" glitch? What a way to coin something :roll:

I'm waiting for a statement on EA "Jesus, 3pt hook shot glitches FIXED :D "

Pinkhearts
09-24-2010, 12:10 PM
2k11 looks good if flawed. Elite looks like an utter mess. Who gives a flying f*** which game was better in 2004?

I never understood the people who cling to one series or another, when i found out how good FIFA 2010 was i was thrilled beyond belief, i always liked PES gameplay better but that game kicked ass, so i switched loyalties in about ten seconds.

FIFA is better than PES now?

I haven't played the games in years, but back then PES owns FIFA hard. You are a joker if you like FIFA better. EA showed that they know nothing about making games except to add fancy graphics and good presentation. But over the years I noticed FIFA improving mainly by copying PES gameplay, and Konami is getting lazy and not putting out top notch stuff every year. Very similar to 2K I guess. If FIFA caught up to PES then I guess there is hope that one day Live can beat 2k

PowerGlove
09-24-2010, 12:13 PM
FIFA is better than PES now?

I haven't played the games in years, but back then PES owns FIFA hard. You are a joker if you like FIFA better. EA showed that the know nothing about making games except to add fancy graphics and good presentation. But over the years I noticed FIFA improving mainly by copying PES gameplay, and Konami is getting lazy and not putting out top notch stuff every year. Very similar to 2K I guess. If FIFA caught up to PES then I guess there is hope that one day Live can beat 2k

FIFA has passed PES. Konami is lazy as F8ck. EA has the resources and can get the man power to destroy 2k but they just dont want to. I think I'm going to talk to reanimator and see if I can get a testing job because their game testers are HORRIBLE.

Batz
09-24-2010, 03:25 PM
FIFA has passed PES. Konami is lazy as F8ck. EA has the resources and can get the man power to destroy 2k but they just dont want to. I think I'm going to talk to reanimator and see if I can get a testing job because their game testers are HORRIBLE.
Honestly the things EA can do is beyond imaginable. I don't get why they lower their expectations when they can create the ultimate basketball sim game.

PowerGlove
09-24-2010, 03:29 PM
Honestly the things EA can do is beyond imaginable. I don't get why they lower their expectations when they can create the ultimate basketball sim game.
Elite has some good things going for it, but it seems like EA is more focused on other games. Hopefully Elite gets the NHL treatment. They kept talking about a three year plan, so we'll see next year.

Batz
09-24-2010, 05:15 PM
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/8843/nbaelite11cover.png

PowerGlove
09-24-2010, 05:16 PM
:oldlol:

That's not Black Jesus!

chazzy
09-24-2010, 05:47 PM
:roll:

no pun intended
09-25-2010, 07:29 PM
Its not like Elite got this from nowhere.

http://www.nba.com/lakers/photos/IMG_0077.jpg

OnceInADECADE
09-25-2010, 07:30 PM
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/8843/nbaelite11cover.png

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :roll:

OnceInADECADE
09-25-2010, 07:31 PM
Its not like Elite got this from nowhere.

http://www.nba.com/lakers/photos/IMG_0077.jpg

http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af186/Pupi6/black_guy_laughing.gif
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af186/Pupi6/black_guy_laughing.gif
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af186/Pupi6/black_guy_laughing.gifhttp://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af186/Pupi6/black_guy_laughing.gifhttp://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af186/Pupi6/black_guy_laughing.gifhttp://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af186/Pupi6/black_guy_laughing.gifhttp://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af186/Pupi6/black_guy_laughing.gifhttp://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af186/Pupi6/black_guy_laughing.gifhttp://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af186/Pupi6/black_guy_laughing.gif

no pun intended
09-25-2010, 08:55 PM
Other than the Bynum crucifixion explained, there is a thousand more flaws that EA still has to justify.

OnceInADECADE
09-25-2010, 08:56 PM
Other than the Bynum crucifixion explained, there is a thousand more flaws that EA still has to justify.

http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af186/Pupi6/black_guy_laughing.gif
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af186/Pupi6/black_guy_laughing.gif
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af186/Pupi6/black_guy_laughing.gifhttp://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af186/Pupi6/black_guy_laughing.gifhttp://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af186/Pupi6/black_guy_laughing.gifhttp://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af186/Pupi6/black_guy_laughing.gifhttp://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af186/Pupi6/black_guy_laughing.gifhttp://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af186/Pupi6/black_guy_laughing.gifhttp://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af186/Pupi6/black_guy_laughing.gif

Batz
09-25-2010, 09:21 PM
Its not like Elite got this from nowhere.

http://www.nba.com/lakers/photos/IMG_0077.jpg
:roll: :roll: :applause: :oldlol: :lol :applause: :roll: :lol :lol

d.bball.guy
09-26-2010, 12:59 AM
Its not like Elite got this from nowhere.

http://www.nba.com/lakers/photos/IMG_0077.jpg
I went to Lakers.com and looked at the Media Day pics and saw that!:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:
I think he knew what happened to him in Elite!:roll::roll:

All Net
09-26-2010, 02:28 AM
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/8843/nbaelite11cover.png

:roll:

1987_Lakers
09-26-2010, 02:30 AM
The Last Temptation of Bynum

d.bball.guy
09-26-2010, 03:10 AM
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5975/nbabynum.jpg
my lame attempt.:roll:

Batz
09-26-2010, 03:11 AM
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5975/nbabynum.jpg
my lame attempt.:roll:
:lol

not bad might try a bigger one myself