View Full Version : Which will end their career with the Heat? James, Wade, Bosh? [thread about loyalty]
no pun intended
09-28-2010, 12:17 AM
Would James move teams again? How about Bosh? Will Wade die as a Heat?
Feel free to discuss other players, such as Bryant and Nowitzki, both of which I believe would die with the Lakers and Mavs, respectively.
How about Joe Johnson? Howard? Durant?
And I know some people can argue that moving teams is not always about loyalty.
Wade will. Maybe Bosh, doubt Bronzy does.
Can't see Kobe, Nash, Dirk, Pierce, Rose, Rondo, Pau, Deron Williams, or Gerald Wallace suiting up in another jersey off the top of my head.
Bcogswell
09-28-2010, 08:59 AM
I think Bron is the most likely out of the three to jump ship.
Sarcastic
09-28-2010, 09:02 AM
Wade ain't leaving Miami. He will retire there.
With Lebron, it will depend on how much they win. I can see him going to the Lakers once Kobe is gone though.
PurpleChuck
09-28-2010, 09:13 AM
Dwyane Wade.
Wade ain't leaving Miami. He will retire there.
With Lebron, it will depend on how much they win. I can see him going to the Lakers once Kobe is gone though.
Ditto. Isn't he on like a 4 year deal? I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave, again.
Hopefully, Dwight stays. Wade will die as a Miami Heat member.
RaceBannana
09-28-2010, 09:14 AM
Wade, Bosh stay.... Lebron leaves....
evilmonkey
09-28-2010, 10:05 AM
What is loyalty in the NBA anyways? Its all business.... i do whats best for me and my family, you do whats best for you. If you want "loyalty" then go to your local high school team.
Yung D-Will
09-28-2010, 10:35 AM
Wade
Kobe Jnr
09-28-2010, 10:45 AM
Didn't they all sign 6 year deals? I think all 3 will retire with the heat..
InfiniteBaskets
09-28-2010, 11:46 AM
As a fan, I personally wouldn't consider it disloyal if Wade left after his contract was up in 5 years. He's done more than enough for Miami in terms of winning and donations.
Same with Zo, when he first left Miami, I didn't blame him one bit. He definitely deserved to have his jersey retired here.
I can understand Cavs fans calling LeBron disloyal in terms of not keeping his promise, but I mean Shaq was quoted saying "And we're going to win the championship next year as well" after 2006. I wouldn't use the world "disloyal" to describe Shaq's demand for a trade two seasons later. That's just the way he is.
If LeBron packs up after his contract to a better team or back to Cleveland, I would definitely not call him disloyal.
Lebron and Bosh have been in Miami 2 minutes, why would we think they will retire there? It's possiblt but that's such a stretch. Wade of course...
step_back
09-28-2010, 11:55 AM
As a fan, I personally wouldn't consider it disloyal if Wade left after his contract was up in 5 years. He's done more than enough for Miami in terms of winning and donations.
Same with Zo, when he first left Miami, I didn't blame him one bit. He definitely deserved to have his jersey retired here.
I can understand Cavs fans calling LeBron disloyal in terms of not keeping his promise, but I mean Shaq was quoted saying "And we're going to win the championship next year as well" after 2006. I wouldn't use the world "disloyal" to describe Shaq's demand for a trade two seasons later. That's just the way he is.
If LeBron packs up after his contract to a better team or back to Cleveland, I would definitely not call him disloyal.
That is entirely different, Shaq promised Miami a championship which they got. He then left once he was out of his prime. Lebron promised but never won. He then bailed at the age of 25 and in his prime.
SinJackal
09-28-2010, 12:09 PM
Wade will stay. My guess is that Bosh stays with Wade too.
LeBron, I think he leaves eventually. He has the least to gain of the 3 by staying imo. If he's still the same player he is now after 4-6 years, imo he leaves to go join a strong team he can fit in well with so he can win on his own. He seems the least excited of the 3 by far after all. :\
Wade ain't leaving Miami. He will retire there.
With Lebron, it will depend on how much they win. I can see him going to the Lakers once Kobe is gone though.
No way. Playing in L.A. would be 10x worse than playing in Chicago. He at least never directly competed against MJ, and the city (at this point) is a dozen years removed from MJ and his last title. Meanwhile going to play in Kobe's former nest? That's be just embarrassing to his soul.
Didn't they all sign 6 year deals? I think all 3 will retire with the heat..
They all have an opt-out after 4 years. LeBron will be like 32 after the 6-year deal's up, turning 33 shortly into the next season.
I'm not sure how much he'll have left after that point. He clearly won't be the same player he is now. The Heat pretty much have these guys for the best parts of their careers. Especially LeBron who's only 26 right now. 26-32 is basically the best part of a guard/SF's career usually. Barring injury of course.
I don't think LeBron opts out unless they win 3-4 titles and he wants to win one without them really badly to "prove that he can".
I could see Lebron going to New York or Brooklyn after 6 years just cause of the same reasons people have always speculated. I would assume that by that time those teams would at least be one piece away from being contenders and that piece could be Lebron. They might already have Melo and/or CP3 there too (Amare as well, but he'll be old by then). I could also see him going to Chicago to play with Rose who will be in his prime by then. I definitely do not see him going to a small market though such as OKC or Portland regardless of how good they might be at that time.
InfiniteBaskets
09-28-2010, 12:18 PM
That is entirely different, Shaq promised Miami a championship which they got. He then left once he was out of his prime. Lebron promised but never won. He then bailed at the age of 25 and in his prime.
Shaq promised he'd "bring a championship to Miami" the first year. Sure, I guess he had a part to play in the 06 title. But RIGHT afterwards, he said that they'd win it again next year. Which is true if winning a championship means getting swept in the first round by a Bulls team that is inferior on paper than the present day ones.
Players are always guaranteeing things which they don't upkeep. LeBron's was just highlighted brighter than others because of the caliber of player that he was, on top of the fact that many took comfort for that to mean he wasn't leaving Cleveland.
Sarcastic
09-28-2010, 12:25 PM
I could see Lebron going to New York or Brooklyn after 6 years just cause of the same reasons people have always speculated. I would assume that by that time those teams would at least be one piece away from being contenders and that piece could be Lebron. They might already have Melo and/or CP3 there too (Amare as well, but he'll be old by then). I could also see him going to Chicago to play with Rose who will be in his prime by then. I definitely do not see him going to a small market though such as OKC or Portland regardless of how good they might be at that time.
I can't. He would never be welcome in NY. Maybe Brooklyn, but he burned them too. Then again, Prokhorov has a hard on to be better than the Knicks, so he would probably swallow his pride and take him.
I can't. He would never be welcome in NY. Maybe Brooklyn, but he burned them too. Then again, Prokhorov has a hard on to be better than the Knicks, so he would probably swallow his pride and take him.
Are you kidding me? Those teams are lottery teams with a slim chance of getting to the playoffs. The Knicks have been a laughing stock for a decade and the Nets just had one of the worst seasons ever and haven't done anything relevant since they made it to the Finals 7 years ago. Maybe right now they would act cold to Lebron, but if the opportunity was available, he'd be welcome with open arms by those teams. Same goes for Chicago. The only team that wouldn't welcome him is Cleveland, and thats mainly the fans. The organization may welcome him back with open arms as well.
praneel
09-28-2010, 01:37 PM
LBJ should go back to Cleveland once his 6 yr deal is done. I know that might sound silly but think about the LBJ love then. It will be equal to the hate he is getting now.
Lebron will be about 31, still have some solid years left. I don't care what people say, if he said "I'm taking my talents to Cleveland" 6 yrs from now, that whole city will acept him with open arms.
Wade is the oldest of the 3, so he has the greatest chance to stay with Miami. But in all likelihood, they all retire members of the Heat.
Willkill24
09-28-2010, 01:45 PM
I see Wade retiring with the Heat with Bosh and Lebron i think his career is going to be like Shaqs, going from team to team looking for rings, or go to the Lakers when kobe is gonna get kicked out.
thejumpa
09-28-2010, 01:55 PM
They all are going to retire with the Heat. After they win multiple titles, it's not going to make sense to switch teams. They'll sign extensions and continue on being a contender until they retire. Very much like Boston.
They all are going to retire with the Heat. After they win multiple titles, it's not going to make sense to switch teams. They'll sign extensions and continue on being a contender until they retire. Very much like Boston.
:facepalm
thejumpa
09-28-2010, 02:57 PM
:facepalm
Another great post by niko:rolleyes:
TheImmortal
07-07-2016, 01:05 PM
Not Wade.
Can't see Kobe, Nash, Dirk, Pierce, Rose, Rondo, Pau, Deron Williams, or Gerald Wallace suiting up in another jersey off the top of my head.
Nash = Lakers
Pierce = Nets, Wizards then Clippers
Rose = Knicks
Rondo = Mavs, Kings & Bulls
Pau = Bulls & Spurs
D-Will = Nets & Mavs
Gerald Wallace.. lol?
HoopologyPhD
07-07-2016, 02:03 PM
I'm going with Bosh here.
Stringer Bell
07-07-2016, 02:38 PM
Nash = Lakers
Pierce = Nets, Wizards then Clippers
Rose = Knicks
Rondo = Mavs, Kings & Bulls
Pau = Bulls & Spurs
D-Will = Nets & Mavs
Gerald Wallace.. lol?
:oldlol: at Gerald Wallace. How did he get in there :wtf:
It's rare for a player in any of the major 3 US Sports to spend their career with one team. This is even more the case now with more freedom in free agency.
It's not uncommon at all for a great who is the "face" of a franchise to eventually spend the latter years of his career with another team. The player is old and declining, the team wants to rebuild, the player doesn't want to retire, so he plays elsewhere.
tmacattack33
07-07-2016, 02:44 PM
Wade will. Maybe Bosh, doubt Bronzy does.
Can't see Kobe, Nash, Dirk, Pierce, Rose, Rondo, Pau, Deron Williams, or Gerald Wallace suiting up in another jersey off the top of my head.
8/9. Better luck next time.
MP.Trey
07-07-2016, 02:44 PM
Not Wade.
Nash = Lakers
Pierce = Nets, Wizards then Clippers
Rose = Knicks
Rondo = Mavs, Kings & Bulls
Pau = Bulls & Spurs
D-Will = Nets & Mavs
Gerald Wallace.. lol?
:roll:
That guy on the first page is right. It's a business. Loyalty is just a word given by the media to players who are fortunate enough to play for a team that keeps their interests in mind for a very long time, whether it's money, locale, a chance to win or all three combined.
Bosnian Sajo
07-07-2016, 02:46 PM
Wade will. Maybe Bosh, doubt Bronzy does.
Can't see Kobe, Nash, Dirk, Pierce, Rose, Rondo, Pau, Deron Williams, or Gerald Wallace suiting up in another jersey off the top of my head.
What a fail :lol
Cap'n Obvious
07-07-2016, 03:11 PM
Wade will. Maybe Bosh, doubt Bronzy does.
Can't see Kobe, Nash, Dirk, Pierce, Rose, Rondo, Pau, Deron Williams, or Gerald Wallace suiting up in another jersey off the top of my head.
Many of those have already been wrong.
Cap'n Obvious
07-07-2016, 03:22 PM
LBJ should go back to Cleveland once his 6 yr deal is done. I know that might sound silly but think about the LBJ love then. It will be equal to the hate he is getting now.
Lebron will be about 31, still have some solid years left. I don't care what people say, if he said "I'm taking my talents to Cleveland" 6 yrs from now, that whole city will acept him with open arms.
Much of this came true.
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