Can we all agree that the JFK assassination was conspiracy

[1987_Lakers]

- 51 witnesses heard gun shots coming from the grassy knoll
- Numerous deaths of witnesses following the assassination. (most notably David Ferrie)

LBJ right after the assassination...
http://www.the7thfire.com/images/thewink.jpg

[RedBlackAttack]

I always sort of felt that something may have been fishy with the JFK assassination, but I have to say... All of the lunatics that have come out of the woodwork with these ridiculous 9-11 conspiracy theories have me questioning the other high-profile conspiracies.

Oswald probably acted alone.

[lurch67]

- 51 witnesses heard gun shots coming from the grassy knoll
- Numerous deaths of witnesses following the assassination. (most notably David Ferrie)

LBJ right before the assassination...
http://www.the7thfire.com/images/thewink.jpg

Ibelieve that pic is actually inside airforce one post mortem (Jackie O already crying), and the gentalman to her right with his head turned is LBJ. The woman to his right is Lady Bird.

[jbot]

- 51 witnesses heard gun shots coming from the grassy knoll
- Numerous deaths of witnesses following the assassination. (most notably David Ferrie)

LBJ right before the assassination...
http://www.the7thfire.com/images/thewink.jpg
whoa. that guy to the right of jackie's head looks like robert deniro.

[1987_Lakers]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79lOKs0Kr_Y

[Hazard]

I saw a documentary which basically told exactly what happened, and it seemed pretty solid. If anyone at all is interested I will try to find it sometime this week.

[1987_Lakers]

Ibelieve that pic is actually inside airforce one post mortem (Jackie O already crying), and the gentalman to her right with his head turned is LBJ. The woman to his right is Lady Bird.

yep, you're right. This was after the assassination.

[Patrick Chewing]

I believe the OP is referring to LBJ looking back at the gentleman to our left and apparently getting a "wink" of approval. Otherwise, LBJ is standing right next to Jackie.

[50inchvertical]

I saw a documentary which basically told exactly what happened, and it seemed pretty solid. If anyone at all is interested I will try to find it sometime this week.
I don't know, I thought them waving off secret service from running alongside the car was fishy. Even the secret service guys were like wtf.

[Coach A]

LBJ right after the assassination...
http://www.the7thfire.com/images/thewink.jpg

I don't see LeBron James

[Poodle]

whoa. that guy to the right of jackie's head looks like robert deniro.


and the guy to his left in the back looks like the kid from the Sopranos that got wacked.

[chrisxuk]

Inside job.

[Hazard]

So can't find that damn documentory. I guess I can summerize and if someone knows about it feel free to shout out the name.

Basically it revolves around a blurry photo of one of the shooters hiding behind a grassy knoll. By looking at the pic you cant make out shit. The people who made the documentary went out and interviewed a bunch of people who were present during the assassination and they all recall a man in uniform. So then going back to the picture they filled in the shadowy outline of the man and he looked to be wearing a uniform. Moving on, they later interview some detective who apperantly got pretty deep on the investigation and figured out that it was the mafia that called out a hit on JFK. Then some crazy old dude with a beard shows up and tells them a bunch of shit that I can't remember. Towards the end there turned out to be 4 men responsible all professional killers gathered from Europe and whoever the **** knows where. So basically that's the outline.

[Lebowsky]

So can't find that damn documentory. I guess I can summerize and if someone knows about it feel free to shout out the name.

Basically it revolves around a blurry photo of one of the shooters hiding behind a grassy knoll. By looking at the pic you cant make out shit. The people who made the documentary went out and interviewed a bunch of people who were present during the assassination and they all recall a man in uniform. So then going back to the picture they filled in the shadowy outline of the man and he looked to be wearing a uniform. Moving on, they later interview some detective who apperantly got pretty deep on the investigation and figured out that it was the mafia that called out a hit on JFK. Then some crazy old dude with a beard shows up and tells them a bunch of shit that I can't remember. Towards the end there turned out to be 4 men responsible all professional killers gathered from Europe and whoever the **** knows where. So basically that's the outline.

Wow, that sounds legit. I am convinced now.

[Hazard]

Wow, that sounds legit. I am convinced now.
Sorry for the crappy outline, it was about 4 months since I've watched it. Wish I could remember the name of it.

[xcesswee]

Can someone inform me on the conspiracy? Specifically, who was behind it and what was their motive?

[FCN]

NWO/Jews

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFzlNWyP6rI

[1987_Lakers]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USGSOViaulc

[DirtBag]

Much like the greenbacks got Lincoln killed, executive order 11110 got Kennedy killed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggADLt4s4pM

[johndeeregreen]

A conspiracy in the sense that there was more than one shooter, sure. I believe Oswald absolutely was a shooter, but not the only one, and that the others involved conspired for him to take the complete fall for it.

However, I don't buy into any of the more popular theories (the Mafia, government conspiracy, etc).


Those who desperately want to believe that President Kennedy was the victim of a conspiracy have my sympathy. I share their yearning. To employ what may seem an odd metaphor, there is an esthetic principle here. If you put six million dead Jews on one side of a scale and on the other side put the Nazi regime — the greatest gang of criminals ever to seize control of a modern state — you have a rough balance: greatest crime, greatest criminals.

But if you put the murdered President of the United States on one side of a scale and that wretched waif Oswald on the other side, it doesn't balance. You want to add something weightier to Oswald. It would invest the President's death with meaning, endowing him with martyrdom. He would have died for something.

A conspiracy would, of course, do the job nicely.

[rufuspaul]

Wow, that sounds legit. I am convinced now.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[JustinJDW]

Inside job for sure. Oswald was a scapegoat. At least that's my opinion.

[Hazard]

:roll: :roll: :roll:
Laugh it up buddy, it was a good documentary, personally I couldn't care less about JFK it's not my generation.

[Myth]

NWO/Jews

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFzlNWyP6rI

That is interesting. Especially considering the theories of one documentary that said the Skulls were behind the assassination.

As for my own beliefs about what happened. I do believe there was a conspiracy involving many high up government men. There are just too many fishy things. Why were the secret service called away from the car, which is completely against code? Why were there tons of open windows in the surrounding buildings (it is protocol to make sure all windows within view are shut, and if one opens, secret service will be at that persons door in a brief moment)? Why did JFK's body switch caskets in midflight despite government officials saying the body remained in a closed casket the entire flight? Why was their a 'V' shaped cut (as if from a scalpel) in JFK's head by the bullet hole before the autopsy when the government said his body was not messed with? Why did JFK's brain disappear? Why was the autopsy performed by a man WHO HAS NEVER PERFORMED AN AUTOPSY BEFORE? There are so many other questions and inconsistencies, but they aren't coming to mind right now.

Also, there is a decent amount of evidence that the man who was in charge of the assassination (not the guy who ordered it, but executed the plan) was this man: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Howard_Hunt

[DonDadda59]

"Kennedy's not going to make it to the ((1964)) election -- he's going to be hit."

-Santo Trafficante in August 1962 to an undercover FBI informant.

[Lebron23]

50 yrs. Anniversary of Kennedy's Assassination, and it still's an unsolved crime.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Until the government releases all their files on the assassination, it looks like a cover up.

[HardwoodLegend]

Oswald acted alone.

This is the most credible theory out there.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/jfk-smoking-gun-tv-review-article-1.1504188

[Dresta]

Don't care. JFK was a dick and a shit President who was corrupt to the core.

[Patrick Chewing]

Kennedy bailed on Bay of Pigs and let those men die. What resulted was payback.

[Dresta]

The only terribly conspiracyesque thing in the whole JFK assassination is that Oswald defected to the USSR before killing JFK. I feel like maybe the USSR wanted JFK dead because they thought he might blow up the world (bay of pigs and cuban missile crisis were both incredibly idiotic on his part) but than again if anything was going to start a war itd be the USSR assassanating a US president.
This is why i don't care he got assassinated: guy was a freakin idiot, and not someone you want with their finger on the button.

Using the secret service as his personal escort service, screwing a Russian spy, continuing to go after Castro after the calamitous Cuban missile crisis, and tonnes of other stupid and mendacious shit.

Guy was mentally unstable and dangerous as hell - yet he's somehow been deified by morons like Oliver Stone.

[TonyMontana]

The Bankers(most powerful people in the country) had JFK assassinated because he wanted to end the Federal Reserve, and establish a new form of currency getting rid of the Dollar. The economy and society would have thrived, but the bankers would have been shit out of luck. Couldn't have that.

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[unbreakable]

The Bankers(most powerful people in the country) had JFK assassinated because he wanted to end the Federal Reserve, and establish a new form of currency getting rid of the Dollar. The economy and society would have thrived, but the bankers would have been shit out of luck. Couldn't have that.

/thread


ive read this before and i agree.

can anyone explain how JFK was an idiot with the bay of pigs and cuban missile? im unaware. :cheers:

[KevinNYC]

There was no conspiracy.

There were however multiple shooters.

The reason nobody ever solved this case before is there were looking for shooters working that loner Oswald.

There were three separate shooters none of whom knew about the other. One of whom never fired a shot, but was there ready to shoot and was seen in photographs, but stopped when the other shots were fired.

It was all a weird coincidence.

[KevinNYC]

Errol Morris just released a great mini documentary the question of what happened that day
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/21/opinion/morris-november-22-1963.html?_r=1&

[bagelred]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSakrYOpJ5s

[cuad]

I liked this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65N3eP2yvbQ The presenter creates an overarching narrative that fits all the little things you hear about from other documentaries without going on crazy wild tangents about Hitler or Rockefeller.

[knickballer]

The Bankers(most powerful people in the country) had JFK assassinated because he wanted to end the Federal Reserve, and establish a new form of currency getting rid of the Dollar. The economy and society would have thrived, but the bankers would have been shit out of luck. Couldn't have that.

/thread

This, it's pretty much a lesson to any president who "speaks up"

[Draz]

This sort of interests me now.

[KevinNYC]

That's incredibly unlikely but completely believable to me.

Thanks.

I thought of it this afternoon.



I also just came across this clip from ABC's 40th anniversary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSBXW1-VGmM

A computer animator took the measurements of Dealy Plaza and the Zapruder film and basically mapping all the motions and angles of the available evidence. Then created a 3D animation that recreates the movements of the car and of Kennedy and Connally, and combined this with the wound evidence to then figure out the trajectory of shots.

The animator originally got interested in the assassination because he was a hard-core conspiracy theorist. He said as he read more of the original evidence, not the second hand books and started looking into using 3D animation to try and figure it out and after years he changed his based on what his evidence was telling him. The shots trace back the 6th floor window of the book depository.
http://www.jfkfiles.com/index.html

[KevinNYC]

This page was particularly interesting. If you look at the possible trajectories paths that would support a shot from the front of Kennedy, based on the positions of their bodies, the shot would have had to come on the Opposite Side of the grassy knoll.

http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/concl4.htm

[fiddy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzeJAoF4UmE

[DeuceWallaces]

Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that it was a conspiracy; no matter how many youtube videos you post. Sadly, the president was murdered by some lone sociopath. There's nothing really grand about it.

[eliteballer]

There was no conspiracy.

There were however multiple shooters.

The reason nobody ever solved this case before is there were looking for shooters working that loner Oswald.

There were three separate shooters none of whom knew about the other. One of whom never fired a shot, but was there ready to shoot and was seen in photographs, but stopped when the other shots were fired.

It was all a weird coincidence.

Three separate shooters at the same time and place who didn't know about each other yet...no conspiracy? What?

[KevinNYC]

Three separate shooters at the same time and place who didn't know about each other yet...no conspiracy? What?

Yes, three individual plots to kill the president that all converged on Dealy Plaza one day.



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[Myth]

Brand new info about the killer: http://www.thebentbullet.com/#!/home

[Lebron23]

He probably got assassinated by the mob or mafia. His dad had some ties with the Mafia. One of the reasons he was elected as president

[Manny98]

Conspiracies turn out to be true a lot of the time

[Shogon]

Conspiracies turn out to be true a lot of the time

A lot of the time they're not true. Most of the time, they're not true.

The thing of it is... are some conspiracy theories true? Of course.

But I've long since figured out why some people gravitate towards conspiracy theories... generally speaking, but not always, those people have suffered some sort of emotional trauma in their lives and what they're doing is trying to be "in the know" and to be able to make "sense" of the fact that bad shit happens so that they can protect themselves from future harm. That's why people are drawn to that shit, again, generally speaking.

People who think the moon landing was a conspiracy theory and didn't happen are batshit insane. Absolutely ****ing insane and deniers of reality. Same thing with flat earth theory, etc etc.

[Jasper]

I saw a documentary which basically told exactly what happened, and it seemed pretty solid. If anyone at all is interested I will try to find it sometime this week.

I saw it , it was based on angle of the shot , and the second shot was from the window.
Now I pose this question - IF Biden were to be assassinated by a Trump loyalist , what do you think would happen to the
republican party as we know it today (backing Trump in a presidency) ??

[KennyPowers]

George HW helped CIA murder JFK

[Axe]

Sadly, the assassination was a hoax to get lyndon b. johnson promoted as potus. :(

[Big_Dogg]

The Bankers(most powerful people in the country) had JFK assassinated because he wanted to end the Federal Reserve, and establish a new form of currency getting rid of the Dollar. The economy and society would have thrived, but the bankers would have been shit out of luck. Couldn't have that.

/thread

That is the same thing i have heard all along, although it wasn't to end the Fed, I had heard it was to have it audited and be more open to oversight, but it is pretty much similar in reasoning I suppose.

[DoctorP]

I didn't see the jfk movie and im a little too young to have lived in that moment but the footage and theories are interesting.

[DoctorP]

I heard the mob wanted him dead and castro wanted him dead