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sawyersauce
10-05-2010, 10:57 AM
The all-time criminal draft

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/ch13s/prohibition_criminals.jpg

With the Movie Draft over and awaiting judgment, I need another source of occasional procrastination. So welcome to the all-time Criminal Draft.

The goal is to create a criminal-outfit.
The exact form and purpose of that outfit is up to you.

You want to draft a mafia family? A bank robbery crew? A drug cartel? A team of con-men? It’s up to you. You can keep it to a small self-contained squad or have your picks be the founding fathers of an empire. Creativity is encouraged.

Like the movie draft, the idea here is to create a cohesive group. It is not about simply stockpiling notoriety and talent. Your group must be specified enough for you to designate what kind of criminal operation they will run, they will be judged on their ability to run said operation as a team.

Picks can be made from criminals from any country and time in history. The definition of what exactly qualifies somebody a ‘criminal’ is fairly loose. However, if the criminality of your pick is questioned you will need to prove their status or pick again (this will have to be done on a case-by-case basis, there is no universal rule). Regardless, you cannot pick, for example, professional soldiers or lawyers for your team – they have to be criminals, who would happily commit crimes for a living.

Rules Below:
- Snake Draft
- 8 Posters
- 10 Rounds
- 8 Hours per pick
- The identities of picks must be known. (Therefore, Jack the Ripper, the Zodiac Killer, B.D. Cooper, ect. Are not selectable.)
- War criminals are pardoned for the sake of this draft.

I'll check back in 12 hours for sign-ups

Team Lists:


Bird
Mafia (Prostitution and Brothels)
Al Capone: CEO/Don
James Colosimo: Brothel Management/Prostitution Recruiter
Giovanni Torrio: Legitimate Fronts Management/Loan Shark
Mario Gigante: Racketeering Management/Capo (NY)
Liborio Salvatore Bellomo: Heroin Trafficking
Charles Ng: Torturer
Alexander Solonik: Hitman
Guiseppe Antonio Doto:
Charles 'Lucky' Luciano:

Jasi
Art Heist Crew
Adam Worth: Leader
Eduardo de Valfierno: Fence
St

sawyersauce
10-05-2010, 10:58 AM
http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/ch13s/cocaine-money-and-guns.jpg

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RND PICK OWNER SELECTION
ROUND 1
1 1 Bird Al Capone
1 2 Jasi Adam Worth
1 3 sawyersauce Gerald Blanchard
1 4 Dasher Bernard Madoff
1 5 Styles p Zhenli Ye Gon
1 6 iamgine Adolf Hitler
1 7 ProfessorMurder George 'Baby Face' Nelson
1 8 Snoop Cat Pablo Escobar

ROUND 2
2 1 Snoop Cat Amado Carrillo Fuentes
2 2 ProfessorMurder John Dillinger
2 3 iamgine Osama Bin Laden
2 4 Styles p Bruce Perlowin
2 5 Dasher Giuseppe Greco
2 6 sawyersauce Peter Salerno
2 7 Jasi Eduardo de Valfierno
2 8 Bird Alexander Solonik

ROUND 3
3 1 Bird Charles Ng
3 2 Jasi St

Snoop_Cat
10-05-2010, 11:06 AM
Interesting ... I'm in!

Dasher
10-05-2010, 11:18 AM
I would like to assemble my own criminal syndicate.

iamgine
10-05-2010, 11:30 AM
I'll join.

Timmy D for MVP
10-05-2010, 11:31 AM
I don't know nearly enough about this to partake but it looks interesting. Will be following.

sawyersauce
10-05-2010, 12:40 PM
This sounds bad ass, but I'm not a wealth of criminal knowledge. I'll partake if you need another person.

I need 4 more people, so you're in.

All you really need is an interest and google. First-hand knowledge and actual hard-time in jail is optional.

Styles p
10-05-2010, 12:42 PM
im in but 10 rounds seems like alot.

sawyersauce
10-05-2010, 12:51 PM
Sorry, I'm sticking with 10. We got through 12 pretty comfortably in the movie draft.

Around 100 picks collectively seems to be the general standard for ISH drafts, and this is only 80.

EDIT: 2 more sign-ups and we can randomize the order and start.

Jasi
10-05-2010, 01:41 PM
I'll try if you don't mind

AK47DR91
10-05-2010, 01:55 PM
Does our group have to have a specific theme(robbers, drug-dealers, etc) or are we setting up an arms guy for killing and torturing, a robber for money, a drug trafficker for money, etc doing their specified thing for your group?

Jasi
10-05-2010, 01:57 PM
I hope (and think) we're free to choose whoever we want for our purpose (as long as they're criminals)

sawyersauce
10-05-2010, 02:07 PM
Does our group have to have a specific theme(robbers, drug-dealers, etc) or are we setting up an arms guy for killing and torturing, a robber for money, a drug trafficker for money, etc doing their specified thing for your group?

Well, either or neither really. You're free to compose the group any way you want. You get to define the positions within it.

But you'll need to set an enterprise or operation that your group engages in, so it's best to set positions relevant to that enterprise. But it's still pretty flexible - your enterprise can be anything from taking over the world to scamming tourists. You draft guys best suited to what you want to do.

Anyway, are you in? we can get started if you are.

AK47DR91
10-05-2010, 02:10 PM
Yeah, I'll give it a shot.

sawyersauce
10-05-2010, 02:16 PM
Haha, orders up (from random.org) and you got first pick. Take your time if you want to do a little research. The first picks should be the easiest though.

Draft Order is:
AK47DR91
Jasi
sawyersauce
Dasher
Styles p
iamgine
ProfessorMurder
Snoop Cat

Clock has started
AK47DR91 is up.

AK47DR91
10-05-2010, 02:24 PM
LOL....I was ready on Capone's wikipedia page reading it.

That's my pick.

Jasi
10-05-2010, 03:10 PM
With my 1st round pick, I select Adam Worth.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Adam_Worth.png


Scotland Yard detective Robert Anderson nicknamed him "the Napoleon of the criminal world", and he is commonly referred to as "the Napoleon of Crime".
It has been widely speculated that Arthur Conan Doyle used Worth as the prototype for Sherlock Holmes' nemesis, Professor Moriarty.

His accomplishments include (without mentioning early pickpocketing, and innumerable robberies throughout his carreer):

- Breaking out safecracker Charley Bullard from the White Plains Jail through a tunnel
- Robbing the vault of the Boylston National Bank in Boston in November 20, 1869, again through a tunnel
- Setting up a gambling den in the upper floor of his American Bar in Paris
- Forming his own criminal network in London, and organizing major robberies and burglaries through several intermediaries. Those who worked in his schemes never knew his name. He insisted that his subordinates should not use violence.
- Stealing Thomas Gainsborough's recently rediscovered painting of Georgiana Cavendish, Duchess of Devonshire, from a London gallery of Agnew & Sons with the help of two associates.
- Stealing $500,000 worth of uncut diamonds in Africa.
- At the end of his career, meeting with detective William Pinkerton, to whom he described the events of his life in great detail. The manuscript which Pinkerton wrote after Worth left is still preserved in the archives of the Pinkerton Detective Agency in Van Nuys, California.
- Setting up an agreement with Alan Pinkerton to let his own son become a career Pinkerton detective (!!!).

I'm going to elaborate on his role in my plan later.

sawyersauce
10-05-2010, 04:15 PM
A shame Worth didn't slip to me, but i'll take.

GERALD BLANCHARD – The Heist Planner
Blanchard is one of the most prolific and remarkable modern-day thieves. He operates as a high-end cat-burglar, fraudster and jewel + art thief. He is often described by the police as an expert of engineering, electronics and security systems. He was a criminal prodigy in his youth, having stolen enough to buy a house by the time he was 16, been arrested at 21 and consequently escaped prison. His most famous jobs are note-able for their flair and creativity.

For example – take the theft of the Koechert Pearl Diamond also known as the Star of Empress Sisi from the Sch

MasterDurant24
10-05-2010, 04:23 PM
edit

sawyersauce
10-05-2010, 04:28 PM
Dasher is on the clock.

Dasher
10-05-2010, 05:11 PM
Benard "The Great B-Mizzlini" Maddoff
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/BernardMadoff.jpg

Ponzi scheme Goon of Goons, and The Money Man of My Organzation.

Styles p
10-05-2010, 05:42 PM
http://www.virginmedia.com/images/zhenli_ye_gon280x390.jpg
Zhenli Ye Gon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhenli_Ye_Gon
[QUOTE]Zhenli Ye Gon (traditional Chinese: 葉真理;[1] born January 31, 1963, Shanghai, People's Republic of China[2]) is a Mexican businessman of Chinese origin accused of trafficking pseudoephedrine or ephedrine precursor chemicals into Mexico from Asia. He is the legal representative of Unimed Pharm Chem M

pete's montreux
10-05-2010, 05:47 PM
Benard "The Great B-Mizzlini" Maddoff
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/BernardMadoff.jpg

Ponzi scheme Goon of Goons, and The Money Man of My Organzation.

:roll:

simcjt
10-05-2010, 06:07 PM
I'm upset I missed out on this. Expecting Great things from Dasher since the first thought that came to my head was laundering money. :applause:

BankShot
10-05-2010, 06:08 PM
I really hope that people do a little research and give some history and rationale behind their choices.... or at least posting the wikipedia entry.

Educate us. :cheers:

iamgine
10-05-2010, 08:06 PM
It's my turn right? What a fun draft. :banana:

I pick the figure we all know and love. Derr Fuhrer. The original Hugh Heffner. The second coming of Charlie Chaplin. The one who gave swastika a bad name. Introducing, Mr. Adolf "Got Rejected By Art School" Hitler.

http://i53.tinypic.com/iwirvb.jpg

How did one get rejected by art school. :facepalm

Lebowsky
10-05-2010, 08:11 PM
It's my turn right? What a fun draft. :banana:

I pick the figure we all know and love. Derr Fuhrer. The original Hugh Heffner. The second coming of Charlie Chaplin. The one who gave swastika a bad name. Introducing, Mr. Adolf "Got Rejected By Art School" Hitler.

http://shaanentertainyou.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/adolf_hitler_biography_2.jpg

How did one get rejected by art school. :facepalm

Dude, no offense but you seem to have a knack for making unconventional picks in any draft you're part of :oldlol: . Going by the OP I don't think Hitler would be eligible, would he?

Jasi
10-05-2010, 08:19 PM
Dude, no offense but you seem to have a knack for making unconventional picks in any draft you're part of :oldlol: . Going by the OP I don't think Hitler would be eligible, would he?

Well, I agree with your first remark (sergio would be jealous :D), but in all fairness we can safely assume that if Hitler had been alive at the time of the Nuremburg Trials, he would have been declared guilty of crimes against humanity, along with all those other likeable guys who actually were.

iamgine
10-05-2010, 08:24 PM
Dude, no offense but you seem to have a knack for making unconventional picks in any draft you're part of :oldlol: . Going by the OP I don't think Hitler would be eligible, would he?
Ain't that the truth. :lol

Now I dare anyone say that Hitler isn't a criminal. Even his mustache is criminal. You could literally pick Hitler's Mustache and it'd be eligible.

Maniak
10-05-2010, 08:28 PM
Hitler ftw.

tian820
10-05-2010, 08:45 PM
Technically, couldn't one pick ANY person who's ever lived?

BRabbiT
10-05-2010, 10:28 PM
this sounds like a great idea:lol

bomber
10-05-2010, 11:24 PM
So pissed I missed out.

sawyersauce
10-06-2010, 12:17 AM
From the OP...



Rules Below:
- Snake Draft
- 8 Posters
- 10 Rounds
- 8 Hours per pick
- The identities of picks must be known. (Therefore, Jack the Ripper, the Zodiac Killer, B.D. Cooper, ect. Are not selectable.)
- War criminals are pardoned for the sake of this draft.

Iamgine, you'll have to pick again.

ProfMurder is up.

iamgine
10-06-2010, 12:22 AM
So all war criminals are out regardless if they'd done other crimes?

sawyersauce
10-06-2010, 12:28 AM
So all war criminals are out regardless if they'd done other crimes?

Well I'm not going to accept a war-criminal because they never paid that parking ticket.

But, as is stated in the OP, if the criminality of your pick is questioned you have to proove it to me. So go ahead and make your argument if you want. I'm willing to be flexible if you're convincing.

EDIT: It's basically going to take more than one off-hand conviction. Continued criminal behaviour.

bballer
10-06-2010, 12:29 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GRUeI8YJWCg/TDzE4r0pNEI/AAAAAAAACRg/gbDGpNm6Cdw/s1600/oj-simpson-smiling-murder-trial.jpg

Rizko
10-06-2010, 12:32 AM
Dasher has already won this. I like the idea that iamgine is going with this, really similar to what I would have done if I had joined. I'll give you some ideas if you want.

iamgine
10-06-2010, 12:36 AM
Well I'm not going to accept a war-criminal because they never paid that parking ticket.

But, as is stated in the OP, if the criminality of your pick is questioned you have to proove it to me. So go ahead and make your argument if you want. I'm willing to be flexible if you're convincing.
If you want me to repick it's okay. I think Tian is right. Almost anyone is a criminal. Even Paris Hilton or Charles Barkley is a criminal. So you got to set some standard at least.

Having said that, Hitler caused the murder of millions of people. He was guilty of murder, genocide, numerous war crimes, and treason against German government. It's just that he died before anyone can tear his mustache off.

sawyersauce
10-06-2010, 12:45 AM
This is the standard from the OP.



Picks can be made from criminals from any country and time in history. The definition of what exactly qualifies somebody a ‘criminal’ is fairly loose. However, if the criminality of your pick is questioned you will need to prove their status or pick again (this will have to be done on a case-by-case basis, there is no universal rule). Regardless, you cannot pick, for example, professional soldiers or lawyers for your team – they have to be criminals, who would happily commit crimes for a living.


You're right that it's very loose, but that's intentional. Believe me, I tried to come up with a universal ruling to exclude one-offs, minor shop-lifters, ect. However such a rule would probably also exclude, for example; Zhenli Ye Gon, who has never been convicted, but is one of the world's largest criminals. That ambivalence is why I have to do it case-by-case.

I added this to the post you quoted...
EDIT: It's basically going to take more than one off-hand conviction. Continued criminal behaviour.

War-Crimes are pardoned. So if you can show another significant crime other than the Putsch, then he's in.

Rizko
10-06-2010, 12:49 AM
Regarding hitler:

"The legal status of many of the Nazi regime's actions is still debated in Germany.

Despite the fact that Hitler persuaded the Reichstag to pass the Enabling Act on 23 March 1933 allowing him to rule by decree, there are many grey areas. Two examples:

1. Hitler abolished the federal structure of Germany and established centralized government. It is very doubtful indeed whether the Enabling Law allowed changes to the constitution.

2. In 1933, some SS men were changed with murder in connection with a number of deaths in concentration camps. Himmler secured immunity from prosecution under ordinary German criminal law for SS personnel in respect of actions committed in the course of duty. The implication is that they probably were guilty ... Actions such as the Holocaust were later also largely committed under the cloak of immunity from prosecution rather than by specific decrees."

iamgine
10-06-2010, 12:54 AM
Would masterminding a genocide count....

sawyersauce
10-06-2010, 12:56 AM
Regarding hitler:

"The legal status of many of the Nazi regime's actions is still debated in Germany.

Despite the fact that Hitler persuaded the Reichstag to pass the Enabling Act on 23 March 1933 allowing him to rule by decree, there are many grey areas. Two examples:

1. Hitler abolished the federal structure of Germany and established centralized government. It is very doubtful indeed whether the Enabling Law allowed changes to the constitution.

2. In 1933, some SS men were changed with murder in connection with a number of deaths in concentration camps. Himmler secured immunity from prosecution under ordinary German criminal law for SS personnel in respect of actions committed in the course of duty. The implication is that they probably were guilty ... Actions such as the Holocaust were later also largely committed under the cloak of immunity from prosecution rather than by specific decrees."

The words 'grey area', 'debated' and 'doubtful' don't exactly cast this as concrete. (Well, maybe 'grey area'.) If these actions haven't been confirmed as illegal, I can't really accept them as anything by speculative evidence. Law-making is always a nit-picky subject.

EDIT: @ Iamgine, count as a war-crime? yes. Any breaches of civil law?

iamgine
10-06-2010, 01:56 AM
I can't find anything on his wiki about any other crime (I guess you didn't too). Why won't the treason count? It is, after all, a very serious crime. If someone has done treason against US government, surely he'd be eligible.

sawyersauce
10-06-2010, 02:03 AM
I can't find anything on his wiki about any other crime (I guess you didn't too). Why won't the treason count? It is, after all, a very serious crime. If someone has done treason against US government, surely he'd be eligible.

It's not so much the seriousness of the crime than it is simply the quantity. If I set a precedent allowing one single crime to qualify someone how can i refuse later picks who have say, overworked their visa? Or been caught shoplifting clothes once?

I really wanted career criminals in the draft. Who make their living commiting crimes. Not talented people who happen to have once commited a crime.

Mmm, no. That sounds weak. Of course I can factor in how dire crimes are. I still feel it's against the spirit of the draft (but not the rules).

Okay, i'll allow it. But this isn't a nation-state draft, he will not be leading a country/government/military - he will be leading a criminal syndicate or operation. If you're sure he's suited to that, then the pick stands.

iamgine
10-06-2010, 02:12 AM
Gotcha.

sawyersauce
10-06-2010, 02:15 AM
lol, you gotchme being lenient.

sawyersauce
10-06-2010, 03:51 AM
ProfessorMurder has about 20 more minutes to pick. Then Snoop Cat is up with the back-to-back.

I've marked picks roles down next to them in the team list. Al Capone is down as Don, Blanchard down as Heist Planner, Madoff as Money Man, and all others (Adam Worth, Zhenli Ye Gon and Hitler) as unspecified. If you want those roles changed, let me know.

Snoop_Cat
10-06-2010, 04:14 AM
Gonna go ahead and create the drug dynasty here.

Pablo Escobar

Amado Carrillo Fuentes

two of the greatest drug lords of all time. One for being insanely violent while popular amongst his people, the other being the richest and one of the most innovative drug trafficker ever. I'll specify their roles later on.

sawyersauce
10-06-2010, 04:27 AM
Picks noted - Escobar is a druglord-grimreaper.

ProffesorMurder is back up - If he misses this pick too i'll be calling for replacements.

Rizko
10-06-2010, 04:30 AM
To be fair to murder he lives in EST and it's 4:29 am here. I don't think he thought this draft would go so quickly.

sawyersauce
10-06-2010, 04:45 AM
Then he's got till midday, I'm sure he'll make it in time.

Haha, what are you doing at 4:30 in the morning?

Rizko
10-06-2010, 04:46 AM
Then he's got till midday, I'm sure he'll make it in time.

Haha, what are you doing at 4:30 in the morning?
Watching ESPN, browsing ISH and typing a paper for english.

sawyersauce
10-06-2010, 12:16 PM
Murder's time is up. I'll give him a few hours this arvo to make his 2 pending picks. If he still hasn't made them by then, i'll have to replace him.

Iamgine is on the clock.

iamgine
10-06-2010, 12:48 PM
http://cyrfer.de/magic/mtg-osama.jpg

Jasi
10-06-2010, 12:53 PM
Who's gonna be the boss?
I smell chemistry issues.

sawyersauce
10-06-2010, 01:06 PM
That's an intersting mix of ideologies.

I actually like the Bin Laden pick. Especially (obviously) if you're making a terrorist group. In which case you're going to need to adress the need for funding, at some point, through some of your other picks.

But I'm a little unsure on Hitler's potential role. He doesn't have any tangible skills to aid a terror plot, nor any experience running such an underground operation (other than the disasterous Putsch). He won't be the head of a country here, with the power to make laws and he won't have a professional army to do his bidding.
I suppose I can see him as some sort of recruiter? He was a great orator, but the ideological differences between him and Bin Laden might complicate that role, plus his success at winning support in Nazi Germany can be attributed to some very specific social and economic conditions.

Anyway, Styles is OTC...

Styles p
10-06-2010, 01:20 PM
Bruce Perlowin


In California I became the largest marijuana smuggler in US west coast history, pioneering a new smuggling route from western Colombia to the San Francisco Bay going under the Golden Gate Bridge to a 1,000 concrete pier I owned in Richmond. The news media dubbed me "The King of Pot" and I earned over $100 million dollars by the time I was 30 years old (I wonder if that's "Another Victory For Norland High").

http://www.bruceperlowin.com/bio.html

BTW i am creating a drug organization.

he is in charge of importing to the west coast.

sawyersauce
10-06-2010, 01:33 PM
Nevermind. See below.

Dasher
10-06-2010, 01:38 PM
Giuseppe Greco

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1d/Pinogreco.jpg


During the Second Mafia War from 1981 until 1983, orchestrated by the Corleonesi, Giuseppe Greco carried out dozens of murders, often with his favourite weapon, an AK-47. He was eventually convicted in absentia of 58 murders, most of them committed during the early 1980s, but it is believed he committed at least 80 murders in total [2] and possibly as many as 300.

La Syndicate Du Dash will not hesitate to wet up T-Shirts. Giuseppe is a stone cold killer who had no problem following orders.

sawyersauce
10-06-2010, 01:43 PM
I'm up...

PETER SALERNO – The Detail Man

Salerno was the leader of the ‘Dinner-set Gang’ and a cat-burglar who, according to the FBI, stole somewhere between $75 million to $150 million worth in jewels, breaking into hundreds of well secured and staffed mansions to do so.

He was famous for targeting people who had made Forbes annual list of wealthiest Americans and his crew’s nickname came from the fact that they made their robberies while the victims were still at home (eating dinner) rather than when they were away.

Salerno would meticulously research his marks, looking at architectural plans of their mansions and observing his victims daily routines and habits. The reason he stole while the victims were at home was because he had observed that alarms and security systems were often tighter when victims were away. Noting patterns in his marks behaviour Salerno would decide upon an optimal window of opportunity and pathway to get to the jewels he wished to steal. Sometimes this involved split-second timing and precision to be in a camera’s blindspot at the exact right moment. Salerno would personally conduct the break-in and his pre-conceived strategies were so on point that on average it only took 3 minutes per job to get in, steal the jewellery and get out.

With his obsessive attention to detail, Salerno will make an excellent detail-man and 2nd in command for my crew. Helping to hammer out the heist plan with Blanchard.

Jasi is OTC...

iamgine
10-06-2010, 01:56 PM
I was not drafting the Hitler that was the Fuhrer and was power-crazy megalomaniac. Young Hitler was a very impressive person, being a soldier, spy, intel, also one of the best orator. It's too bad later on in life he become a lunatic. Him and Osama actually had some very similar goals and Hitler actually admired the muslim military tradition.

Anyways, it will all come together in the end.

Jasi
10-06-2010, 01:59 PM
I was not drafting the Hitler that was the Fuhrer and was power-crazy megalomaniac. Young Hitler was a very impressive person, being a soldier, spy, intel, also one of the best orator. It's too bad later on in life he become a lunatic. Him and Osama actually had some very similar goals and Hitler actually admired the muslim military tradition.

Anyways, it will all come together in the end.

Someone help iamgine, sergio's spirit has taken possession of his body!
:lol

Have you used an Ouija board recently?

iamgine
10-06-2010, 02:04 PM
was that the guy who posted the dolphin? Yea I remember him drafting hitler in the nation state draft is that right?

sawyersauce
10-06-2010, 02:05 PM
I was not drafting the Hitler that was the Fuhrer and was power-crazy megalomaniac. Young Hitler was a very impressive person, being a soldier, spy, intel, also one of the best orator. It's too bad later on in life he become a lunatic. Him and Osama actually had some very similar goals and Hitler actually admired the muslim military tradition.

Anyways, it will all come together in the end.

All right, well I'm looking forward to seeing how it falls into place.

I just don't think Hitler really has appropriate attributes for this sort of thing. I can't really comment on him being a spy, because I know nothing about it. But I'm not sure if a WW1 trench spy would have specific skills more useful to a crime syndicate than an actual professional criminal. Hitler the soldier as your muscle would be hilarious.

But I have faith in your creativity.

sawyersauce
10-06-2010, 02:07 PM
was that the guy who posted the dolphin? Yea I remember him drafting hitler in the nation state draft is that right?

And Alexander the Great too, if I remember.

Plus I think it was the same poster I had an argument with in the very 1st political-powers draft for taking Leonidas 1st round.

He certainly has a war-mongers spirit.

I'm turning in - gotta sleep.

Jasi
10-06-2010, 02:31 PM
I don't think he was the one of the dolphin video, but he surely picked Hitler, Alexander the Great and Muhammad in his nation-state roster...!


Pick coming in a few minutes.

Jasi
10-06-2010, 02:43 PM
With my 2nd round pick, I select Eduardo de Valfierno.

http://greatestconartists.webs.com/Eduardo%20de%20Valfierno.jpg

The con man who masterminded the most infamous art heist of all - the 1911 theft of the Mona Lisa from the Louvre, which plunged Paris into a state of mourning.
Enough said.

AK47DR91
10-06-2010, 07:02 PM
Damn, I feel overwhelmed, this is harder than I thought. I got next two picks?

My hit men will be Ajmal Kasab and the 2008 Mumbai hotel terrorist attackers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajmal_Kasab
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Mumbai_attacks

They murdered at least 173 people and wounding at least 308 in a span of 3 days between Nov 26-29, 2008. Ajmal Kasab,[15] the only attacker who was captured alive, disclosed that the attackers were members of Lashkar-e-Taiba, the Pakistan-based militant organization, considered a terrorist organization by India, Pakistan, the United States, the United Kingdom, the United Nations,[16] among others.

My torturer will be Charles Ng
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Ng
He and Leonard Lake are suspected of murdering between 11 and 25 victims at Lake's ranch in Calaveras County, California. They filmed themselves raping and torturing their victims. Ng stood trial on 12 counts of murder in 1998, of which he was convicted on February 11, 1999, of 11 of the murders, those of six men, three women and two baby boys, and was sentenced to death. Ng's trial was lengthy and cost the state approximately $20 million, which was at the time of the trial the most expensive trial in California state history.

He is currently on death row at San Quentin State Prison.

Jasi
10-06-2010, 07:18 PM
So it's my turn.
With my 3rd round pick, I select [B]St

sawyersauce
10-06-2010, 09:09 PM
Okay - All picks noted. And I'm back up.

Adding a bit of high-tech to my heist, i'll take...

KEVIN MITNICK – The Hacker
Kevin Mitnick is a former black-hat (criminal) hacker. Who, in his prime, was the most wanted computer-based criminal in the U.S.

According to the U.S. Department of Justice, Mitnick gained unauthorized access to dozens of computer networks. He used cloned cellular phones to hide his location and, among other things, copied valuable proprietary software from some of the country's largest cellular telephone and computer companies. Mitnick also intercepted and stole computer passwords, altered computer networks, and broke into and read private e-mail.

Feats:
- Hacking into DEC systems to view VMS source code (DEC reportedly spent $160,000 in cleanup costs)
- Gaining full administrator privileges to an IBM minicomputer at the Computer Learning Center in Los Angeles in order to win a bet
- Hacking Motorola, NEC, Nokia, Sun Microsystems and Fujitsu Siemens systems
- Hacking the e-mail of computer security officials at MCI Communications and Digital
- Wiretapping the California DMV
- Hacking Santa Cruz Operation, Pacific Bell, the FBI, the Pentagon, Novel, California Department of Motor Vehicles, University of Southern California and Los Angeles Unified School District systems.

It is alleged that he wire tapped the very FBI agents who were pursuing him.

EDIT: Dasher OTC...
Some pretty damn morbid picks being made.
And good to have you back Prof.

Dasher
10-06-2010, 10:46 PM
Viktor Bout The Merchant of Death

http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/wp-content/2008/01/viktorbout_2.jpg


A former Soviet military translator, Bout made a significant amount of money through his many air transport companies, shipping cargo mostly in Africa and the Middle East during the 1990s and early 2000s.[citation needed] Just as willing to ship cargo for Charles Taylor in Liberia as he was for the United Nations in Sudan and the United States in Iraq, Bout may have facilitated huge arms shipments into various civil wars in Africa with his private air cargo fleets during the 1990s.
While claiming to have done little more than provide logistics, he has been called a "sanctions buster"by former British Foreign Office minister Peter Hain who described Bout as "the principal conduit for planes and supply routes that take arms... from east Europe, principally Bulgaria, Moldova and Ukraine to Liberia and Angola."

sawyersauce
10-07-2010, 12:00 AM
Styles p is up.

Can drafters start to post what roles their picks will have and start giving some shape to their organisation.

raiderfan19
10-07-2010, 03:39 AM
I was not drafting the Hitler that was the Fuhrer and was power-crazy megalomaniac. Young Hitler was a very impressive person, being a soldier, spy, intel, also one of the best orator. It's too bad later on in life he become a lunatic. Him and Osama actually had some very similar goals and Hitler actually admired the muslim military tradition.

Anyways, it will all come together in the end.
Your history on Hitler is wrong. He was a good orator, yes, but he was a piss poor soldier.

iamgine
10-07-2010, 05:48 AM
Your history on Hitler is wrong. He was a good orator, yes, but he was a piss poor soldier.
Your opinion is wrong. :lol

sawyersauce
10-07-2010, 07:37 AM
Time's up. Styles has a pending pick.

Iamgine is OTC...

Styles p
10-07-2010, 11:30 AM
Joseph Merlino

http://www.onewal.com/mugs/merlino-joey-ph.gif

[QUOTE]Joseph S. Merlino, nicknamed "Skinny Joey" (born March 13, 1962, in South Philadelphia), is the son of alleged former Nicky Scarfo underboss/soldier Salvatore "Chuckie" Merlino, who is currently serving 45 years, following his conviction in 1988 on racketeering charges.[1] He is also the nephew of deceased former alleged Capo Lawrence Merlino.
While Merlino was allegedly the boss of the Philadelphia crime family, it was said to have engaged primarily in extortion, bookmaking, drug trafficking, and loan sharking.
Merlino has been described as a particularly vicious person, obsessed with his own public image, and another version of New York's John Gotti.

iamgine
10-07-2010, 11:55 AM
I don't know who to pick from 3 onwards. I was only prepared for Hitler and Osama. :lol

I guess ill take the Oklahoma bomber, Timothy McVeigh.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/images/timothy_mcveigh_400.jpg

sawyersauce
10-07-2010, 12:14 PM
Picks noted.
I'm making a general estimate on what sort of group I think everyone's going for. Please, correct me if I'm wrong - I want to post these as heading in the team lists.

AK47DR91 = Mafia

Jasi = Art Heist Crew

Dasher = Racketeering

Styles p = Drug Cartel

iamgine = Terrorist Group

ProfessorMurder = Bank Robbery Crew

Snoop Cat = Drug Cartel


And ProfMurder is OTC.

Jasi
10-07-2010, 12:16 PM
Picks noted.
I'm making a general estimate on what sort of group I think everyone's going for. Please, correct me if I'm wrong - I want to post these as heading in the team lists.

AK47DR91 = Mafia

Jasi = Art Heist Crew

Dasher = Racketeering

Styles p = Drug Cartel

iamgine = Terrorist Group

ProfessorMurder = Bank Robbery Crew

Snoop Cat = Drug Cartel


And ProfMurder is OTC.

And you?

sawyersauce
10-07-2010, 12:21 PM
And you?

Attempting the impossible casino heist. Half hit the vault and half hit the floor. I'll need some much more specialised picks later, but I have a good idea who they are.

Jasi
10-07-2010, 12:24 PM
Attempting the impossible casino heist. Half hit the vault and half hit the floor. I'll need some much more specialised picks later, but I have a good idea who they are.

I suggest you Danny Ocean :D

BTW Of course your guess is correct in my case, at this point

sawyersauce
10-07-2010, 12:33 PM
I suggest you Danny Ocean :D

BTW Of course your guess is correct in my case, at this point

Those films decieved me. :oldlol:
I thought there would be a plethora of sharp suit wearing conmen who executed complex, multi-layered casino heists. Turns out there's pretty much none that went succesfully - hence the need for the specific strategy. All casino heists i've researched seem to be armed robberies that end in a hostage situation.

sawyersauce
10-07-2010, 02:38 PM
I'm not going to be able to pick until later tonight. You guys are getting to me in very shitty times. Middle of the night, and middle of a 3 class day.

Skip me now to keep things going, and I'll pick later tonight. After today I have 6 and a half days off, so I'll be good to go.

Can you PM someone your pick?
I'm going to sleep now - i'll check back in 10 hours or so. If that doesn't match up timewise, Jasi is relaible. And iamgine seems to be on here enough of the time.

sawyersauce
10-07-2010, 02:44 PM
No, I don't have anyone in mind yet. I haven't had much time the last 2 days to think about this. I should be able to post by like 9pm EST at the latest. This is such a broad draft that there are plenty of good picks anyway. I'd rather not hold things up and let a few more picks be chosen.

Okay, no worries. Enjoy the 6 days off sounds like you've been busy.

AK47DR91
10-07-2010, 03:26 PM
Picks noted.
I'm making a general estimate on what sort of group I think everyone's going for. Please, correct me if I'm wrong - I want to post these as heading in the team lists.

AK47DR91 = Mafia

Jasi = Art Heist Crew

Dasher = Racketeering

Styles p = Drug Cartel

iamgine = Terrorist Group

ProfessorMurder = Bank Robbery Crew

Snoop Cat = Drug Cartel


And ProfMurder is OTC.

My mafia be involved in the prostitution and brothel business.

Snoop_Cat
10-07-2010, 06:45 PM
Khun Sa:

Purposes:
Expansion in drug versatility - Provides a stable of heroin/opium for the two cocaine lords I currently have. Statistically the most prolific heroin distributor and controlled a tremendous portion of the heroin business.

Secondary base (insurance) - Located in Burma. Should Escobar's main be locked down. They will have a secondary operations base to fall back on.



Manuel Noriega:
Purpose:
Protection. Noriega's specialty was protection for dealers and for clients. Weaponry, save havens, safe transportation, fiscal protective measures. Noriega also has(had) intelligence connections that would further support the protective duties of Noriega.


You can also edit mine to "International Drug Cartel" haha.

sawyersauce
10-08-2010, 03:26 AM
Picks noted and it's getting more interesting now we can see an actual shape and agenda in the groups.

Iamgine is OTC.
ProfMurder has 2 pending picks.

iamgine
10-08-2010, 05:02 AM
I just realize since everyone is making different group anyway, I don't see the purpose of a draft. We all gonna take different guys anyway. I haven't thought of who I want so just skip me.

Rizko
10-08-2010, 05:04 AM
I just realize since everyone is making different group anyway, I don't see the purpose of a draft. We all gonna take different guys anyway. I haven't thought of who I want so just skip me.
Some people will be drafting from similar pools. I think there are at least 2 drug cartels.

Also look over the list I gave you, you can have some illuminati shit going on.

iamgine
10-08-2010, 05:12 AM
Some people will be drafting from similar pools. I think there are at least 2 drug cartels.

Also look over the list I gave you, you can have some illuminati shit going on.
Yeah, I guess there're 2 drug cartels but the rest are different groups.

Dude, most of those on the list you gave Im pretty sure ain't eligible. I already pick the only eligible one. :lol

YouCallILose
10-08-2010, 05:18 AM
how the hell was john gotti not selected?

Rizko
10-08-2010, 05:18 AM
Yeah, I guess there're 2 drug cartels but the rest are different groups.

Dude, most of those on the list you gave Im pretty sure ain't eligible. I already pick the only eligible one. :lol
If saywersauce accepted Hitler he should accept the other guys on the list. I gave fool-proof, undeniable evidence that says they are world-class criminals.

iamgine
10-08-2010, 05:25 AM
If saywersauce accepted Hitler he should accept the other guys on the list. I gave fool-proof, undeniable evidence that says they are world-class criminals.
:lol If you can convince him that Barack Obama is eligible, you can take my place.

sawyersauce
10-08-2010, 06:04 AM
:lol If you can convince him that Barack Obama is eligible, you can take my place.

I'm listening...

:oldlol:

Jasi
10-08-2010, 06:10 AM
I'm listening...

:oldlol:

Do you remember the example that I told you some time ago via PM?
That one has a hugely bigger case :D

sawyersauce
10-08-2010, 06:24 AM
Do you remember the example that I told you some time ago via PM?
That one has a hugely bigger case :D

Yeah I do.
The thing is, even if I let them get picked - I don't really think guys like that have much value. Sure they're big name, but do they actually have the relevant criminal skills? Most of their cases are because of association with other criminals or bankrolling other criminals.

Jasi
10-08-2010, 06:59 AM
Yeah I do.
The thing is, even if I let them get picked - I don't really think guys like that have much value. Sure they're big name, but do they actually have the relevant criminal skills? Most of their cases are because of association with other criminals or bankrolling other criminals.

I agree with you, and mine was actually more of a joke, but... If you decide they're legit picks (I personally wouldn't), they can have much value because having an associate with such decisional power opens you huge doors.

sawyersauce
10-08-2010, 10:53 AM
Styles is OTC.

Iamgine has a pending pick, ProfMurder has 2.

Styles p
10-08-2010, 12:38 PM
Mickey Munday

was a bad ass hillbilly redneck from Florida. He transported most of the cocaine that was in america in the 80's for the Medell

sawyersauce
10-08-2010, 01:23 PM
I like what you've got going styles.

Iamgine has a pending pick, ProfMurder has 2.
Dasher OTC...

Dasher
10-08-2010, 04:52 PM
Semion Mogilevich The King Ding-a-ling of Russian Organized Crime
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Mogilevich_s1.jpg


Semion is an organized crime boss believed by European and United States federal law enforcement agencies to be the "boss of bosses" of most Russian Mafia syndicates in the world.

His charges:

Mail, wire and securities fraud, Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act conspiracy, money laundering, aiding and abetting, filing false registration and filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, falsification of books and records.

He is on FBI's 10 Most Wanted List, and has pulled MULTIPLE BILLION DOLLAR FRAUDS.

Jasi
10-08-2010, 05:30 PM
Via PM - sawyersauce selects JOHNNY RAMENSKY: SAFE/VAULT-CRACKER

Ramesky was a Scottish safe-cracker, so legendary he has become a figure of folk-law. During his pime, his reputation was such, that whenever a seemingly impossible theft was committed, the authorities automatically brought him in for questioning, knowing that he was one of the few who actually possessed the skills to pull it off.
He escaped from prison 5 times, and was the first to ever escape from Peterhead Prison. Though re-captured, he was offered a pardon if he leant his skills to the military during WW2 – an offer he accepted.
For the military he utilized his safe-cracking skills to perform a number of sabotage missions. He was parachuted behind enemy lines to retrieve documents from Axis headquarters, including Rommel's headquarters in North Africa and G

Jasi
10-08-2010, 05:45 PM
With my 4th round pick, I select Steven Jay Russell.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5r5qENvFSXE/S9Vx9FZ_PqI/AAAAAAAAAQ8/JDTw650sUxI/s1600/Steven-Jay-Russell-001.jpg

US con artist and impostor, he is a master at fraud (for instance, he obtained a job as CFO at North American Medical Management, by fabricating bogus credentials, and proceeded to embezzle thousands of dollars from them).

He escaped from prison numerous times, impersonating various characters.
His most daring escape took several months to pan out, and involved faking HIV symptoms, fooling the prison doctor into believing that a 'special needs parole' to a Houston hospital had been authorized, and while outside posing as a doctor and informing the prison that Russell had died from AIDS.

Over the years, he has had at least 14 known aliases.
His IQ is measured at 163.

The Jim Carrey movie "I Love You Phillip Morris" is based on his life.

Jasi
10-08-2010, 07:47 PM
AK47DR91 is on the clock

sawyersauce
10-09-2010, 05:41 AM
All picks noted and time check?

Jasi's back up, AK has his double pick pending, Iamgine has one.

Jasi
10-09-2010, 05:52 AM
5th round, I pick Jonathan James.

http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/uploads/photo-295742.jpg

Considered one of the top black hat hackers ever.


James's major intrusions targeted high-profile organizations. He installed a backdoor into a Defense Threat Reduction Agency server. The DTRA is an agency of the Department of Defense charged with reducing the threat to the U.S. and its allies from nuclear, biological, chemical, conventional and special weapons. The backdoor he created enabled him to view sensitive emails and capture employee usernames and passwords.

James also cracked into NASA computers, stealing software worth approximately $1.7 million. According to the Department of Justice, "The software supported the International Space Station's physical environment, including control of the temperature and humidity within the living space." NASA was forced to shut down its computer systems, ultimately racking up a $41,000 cost. James explained that he downloaded the code to supplement his studies on C programming, but contended, "The code itself was crappy . . . certainly not worth $1.7 million like they claimed."

sawyersauce
10-09-2010, 06:38 AM
I'll take...

FERDINAND DEMARA – The Inside Man

Demara was a famous impostor, known for multiple counts of identity theft and fraud - working and getting paid for countless jobs he was completely unqualified for.

During Demara's "careers", he impersonated a civil engineer, a sheriff's deputy, an assistant prison warden, a doctor of applied psychology, a hospital orderly, a lawyer, a child-care expert, a Benedictine monk, a Trappist monk, an editor, a cancer researcher and a teacher.

His most famous exploit was to masquerade as surgeon Joseph Cyr about HMCS Cayuga, a Canadian Navy destroyer, during the Korean War. While pretending to be Cyr he actually managed to improvise successful surgeries, basically learning how to be a surgeon on the job. None of his patients died as a result of his treatment, and he saved multiple lives.

He will be my inside-man, infiltrating target casinos.

Dasher OTC...
AK with a double pending pick.
Iamgine with a pending pick.
Let's clear these up, I don't want to have to boot people half way through.

pete's montreux
10-09-2010, 06:40 AM
I just realized how you were using OTC. I kept thinking, "WHY IS EVERYONE OFF THE F*CKING COURT!?" :mad:

And, I have two cool criminal stories that I'll wait to share after drafting is finished, don't wanna drop names.

sawyersauce
10-09-2010, 07:06 AM
Here's a picture of the Koechert Diamond Pearl that Blanchard stole. It's considered priceless.

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/ch13s/thief_1.jpg

The guy's pretty much like something out of a movie.

NoName22
10-09-2010, 07:34 AM
Does GreatGreg count as a criminal ?

sawyersauce
10-09-2010, 08:33 AM
Does GreatGreg count as a criminal ?

I'd never call a man who's seen heaven a criminal.

Dasher
10-09-2010, 09:24 AM
Joseph "Yellow Kid" Weil

http://greatestconartists.webs.com/Joseph%20Weil.jpg

Every organization needs a resident conman. I select The Legendary Yellow Kid.

[QUOTE]Joseph "Yellow Kid" Weil (July 1, 1875

sawyersauce
10-09-2010, 09:44 AM
Styles is up...
Iamgine has a pending pick.
AK has 2 pending picks.

I'm trying to fill in roles on the team lists, but on some I'm not really sure.

Dasher
Racketeering Syndicate
Bernard Madoff: Bankroll/Accounts
Giuseppe Greco: Hitman
Viktor Bout:
Semion Mogilevich:
Joseph Weil:

Styles p
Drug Cartel
Zhenli Ye Gon: Source
Bruce Perlowin:
Joseph Merlino:
Mickey Munday: Smuggler

Would either of you mind filling in the blanks? And same for everyone else. If you're not sure yet or want to wait for a grand e-unveiling - let me know.

Jasi
10-09-2010, 09:58 AM
Worth is the leader, Valfierno is the fence, Stephane is a thief, Russell is the impostor, James is the hacker

BRabbiT
10-09-2010, 12:41 PM
....Blanchard down as Heist Planner,



Blanchard's really smart. nice pick.






...Instead of the maximum of 164 years, Blanchard got eight. And then last summer, after serving less than two, he was released into carefully guarded probation. He now lives in a Vancouver halfway house, where he is prohibited from going anywhere near certain types of surveillance equipment and talking to any of his former associates.

The banks “should hire him and pay him a million dollars a year,” he said. And right before sentencing, the judge turned directly to Blanchard. “I think that you have a great future ahead of you if you wish to pursue an honest style of life,” he said. “Although I’m not prepared to sign a letter of reference.”
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/03/ff_masterthief_blanchard/all/1

Styles p
10-09-2010, 12:49 PM
Styles is up...
Iamgine has a pending pick.
AK has 2 pending picks.

I'm trying to fill in roles on the team lists, but on some I'm not really sure.

Dasher
Racketeering Syndicate
Bernard Madoff: Bankroll/Accounts
Giuseppe Greco: Hitman
Viktor Bout:
Semion Mogilevich:
Joseph Weil:

Styles p
Drug Cartel
Zhenli Ye Gon: Source
Bruce Perlowin:
Joseph Merlino:
Mickey Munday: Smuggler

Would either of you mind filling in the blanks? And same for everyone else. If you're not sure yet or want to wait for a grand e-unveiling - let me know.

bruce is in charge of smuggling to the west coast.
merlino is in charge of supplying the muscle.

Jon Roberts

http://www.shakefire.com/frivolous/cocaine3.JPG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Roberts


Jon Roberts (born 1948) is a noted drug trafficker who operated in the Miami area and was an associate of Colombia's Medellin cartel during the growth phase in cocaine trafficking, 1975-1985.


As demand for cocaine increased, Jon found his Cuban suppliers unable to meet his demand. Through Jon's girlfriend, he met Mickey Munday. Munday was a trafficker who introduced Jon to Medellin agent Rafael "Rafa" Cardona Salazar. At first, Mickey was apprehensive of Jon who had driven up in a black Mercedes Benz, which Mickey described as having "drug dealer written all over it'. He also stated that Jon's flashy car and flamboyant lifestyle made Jon look like "someone I wanted nothing to do with".
Nevertheless, Jon and Mickey began working under the supervision of Max Mermelstein who had an agreement with Rafael Cardona to manage the transportation of cocaine from Colombia to Miami. He then oversaw the delivery of the loads to cartel safe houses in the Miami area. Jon was able to increase his monthly cocaine business through this direct connection. Max and Mickey established the routes for trips to Colombia, using boats, tow truck companies, safe houses, and air strips, thereby setting up an effective transportation route for the cartel. Roberts claims to have made approximately $100 million USD, dealing cocaine during this period. He spent $50 million of that money on his extravagant lifestyle.

partner of mickey, will be in charge of transporting the shipments to the stash houses and divide it up for sale.

sawyersauce
10-09-2010, 01:42 PM
Picks noted and team lists updated.


Worth is the leader, Valfierno is the fence, Stephane is a thief, Russell is the impostor, James is the hacker

I like Valfierno as the fence. That's really clever. He would absolutely maximise profits made from your heists. The most brilliant part of the Mona Lisa theft was the way he tricked people into buying the fakes.

sawyersauce
10-09-2010, 01:47 PM
Blanchard's really smart. nice pick.

From what i've read he sounds like some sort of savant with security systems. Can get past any lock, trick any surveillance and install his own backdoors and hidden cameras virtually undetected. Plus he parachuted onto the palace roof to break in, style has got to count for something.

I originally wanted Adam Worth (until Jasi took him) as my planner and Blanchard as my point man. But I think he could probably handle both jobs, he'd have Salerno to help him out.

sawyersauce
10-10-2010, 04:11 AM
ProfMurder is up...

Iamgine and AK47DR91 both have 2 pending picks. Gotta get those picks in soon or I'm calling for replacements. This is moving way to slow.

iamgine
10-10-2010, 05:54 AM
John Gotti

Sergei Mikhailov

sawyersauce
10-10-2010, 10:16 PM
AK and ProfMurder each still with a pending pick.

Snoop Cat on the clock.

Snoop_Cat
10-10-2010, 10:54 PM
I posted the jobs of two of my guys on page 7:
http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=192204&page=7


Picks:
Che Guevara: Political Specialist. Someone to gain the support of the people gives one/a team large advantages when dealing with public issues and the such against the government, policing groups, etc.

Pascal Payet - Escape Artist. Someone's gotta break out my guys in the off chance they're arrested. Infamous for his usage (twice) of helicopters to break out of jail.

sawyersauce
10-10-2010, 11:48 PM
A few nice out-of-the-box picks. All noted.

Snoop I put Khun Sa's role down as Opium/Heroin Source for you. Is that about right? I didn't want to Copy and Paste 2 paragraphs.

EDIT: Iamgine is up.
AK still with a pending pick.

iamgine
10-11-2010, 12:27 AM
Soeharto

http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00014/suharto_14074t.jpg

sawyersauce
10-11-2010, 01:03 AM
Styles is up.

Iamgine, I really don't understand your strategy. What on Earth is Soeharto going to bring to your organisation?
:oldlol:
Remeber you're building a criminal syndicate from scratch. He doesn't come with the Indonesian government or any of the power he held while president. You're drafting a person not a regime. What skills does he posess to help you? And would he even want to aid a terrorist plot?

Snoop_Cat
10-11-2010, 01:05 AM
Yeah

Escobar is the Leader
and
Fuentes is the Money Man.

thanks.

Styles p
10-11-2010, 01:20 AM
Ken Rijock


Ken Rijock is a former banking attorney at an international law firm. He's also a former money launderer.

He spent the 1980s as a money launderer and advisor to drug traffickers, until he was arrested and served a U.S. federal prison sentence for racketeering and money laundering.

http://www.bankinfosecurity.com/articles.php?art_id=818

need someone to make that money legal, even though hes a "good guy" now.

iamgine
10-11-2010, 01:20 AM
It might not even be a terrorist organization. :lol

Maybe we just want to steal books from Barnes & Noble eh? Or smuggle gum to Singapore.

I'm sure I'll have some (weak) explanation by the end of the draft.

BRabbiT
10-11-2010, 01:24 AM
It might not even be a terrorist organization. :lol

Maybe we just want to steal books from Barnes & Noble eh? Or smuggle gum to Singapore.

I'm sure I'll have some (weak) explanation by the end of the draft.




:lol

sawyersauce
10-11-2010, 02:08 AM
It might not even be a terrorist organization. :lol

Maybe we just want to steal books from Barnes & Noble eh? Or smuggle gum to Singapore.

I'm sure I'll have some (weak) explanation by the end of the draft.

:oldlol:
I look forward to it.

Thanks Snoop.

EDIT: Dasher is OTC

Dasher
10-11-2010, 09:58 AM
Ehud Tenenbaum(Hacker)
He will head my cybercrimes division. His position deep within the cyber-security structure of The State of Israel makes him an especially powerful asset. He will be able to help with our money-laundering and weapon sales as well by providing vital information on the movements of America's cat's paw Israel.



Admitted to hacking US and Israeli computers, and plead guilty to conspiracy, wrongful infiltration of computerized material, disruption of computer use and destroying evidence

sawyersauce
10-11-2010, 10:36 AM
I'm taking Keith Taft - the first of my floor specialists.

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/ch13s/boot2.jpg

Taft is the only man to make the Blackjack Hall of Fame for cheating.

He was an inventor who designed and constructed several devices to help him cheat at casinos. This included a miniture computer that could card-count, a tiny video camera attached to his belt buckle to reveal a dealers hole card and another mini computer that recorded patterns in the shuffling machines and predicted how the deck would turn out. He was caught several times and arrested, however he was occasionaly let off because the devices had never seen before - the police could therefore not prove they were used for cheating.


Among professional blackjack players, Keith Taft was known as an electronics genius who devoted more than 30 years of his life to creating high-tech devices to beat the casinos. Keith, alongside his son Marty, may have literally invented computer networking, as they were wiring computer-equipped players together at blackjack tables as far back as the 1970s. He was also one of the first to use a computer to capture digital video, and he may have created the first microcomputer.

In addition, Keith has trained players in the use of such equipment and personally ventured into the casinos to test his sophisticated inventions.


http://www.blackjackhero.com/blackjack/players/keith-taft/

He will be the inventor for my floor-team, that sounds stupid but I can't think of a better word. I anticipate his skills will combine nicely with a few of my later picks.

Jasi's up.

Jasi
10-11-2010, 11:28 AM
I'm picking another impostor because my crew will target different places, sometimes we'll just break into them, in other cases we'll need to obtain confidence from their owners.

This guy here is one of the best at impersonating figures.

Christophe Rocancourt. He's the one at the left.

http://media.canada.com/9ef63c09-385e-4b40-bac2-da66c75d8b27/MDF82780.jpg


Christophe Rocancourt, (b. July 16, 1967 in Honfleur, France) is an impostor, confidence man and gentleman thief who scammed affluent people by masquerading as a French member of the Rockefeller family.

His feats are too numerous and varied to sum up here, but in the end...


Rocancourt wrote an autobiography in which he ridiculed his victims (Naomi Campbell is one of them; in the picture she's the one at the right - Jasi's note). In March 2002 he was extradited to New York and pleaded to charges of theft, grand larceny, smuggling, bribery, perjury and fraud against 19 victims.
In Switzerland, the police have barred him from the country until 2016.
He once estimated to Dateline that his various schemes/ventures netted him at least $40 million

Jasi
10-11-2010, 05:42 PM
AK47 is on the clock, but apparently he already missed some picks... Can I pick before hitting the sack, sawyersauce?

Jasi
10-11-2010, 07:50 PM
Ok I'm up.
I've found many interesting stories while doing some research for this draft.

One of these, is that of the Pink Panthers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Panthers), a network of Slavic (mostly Serbian) thieves of jewelry and art.
Young and brave, educated and violent, they are responsible for some of the most audacious and glamorous heists in criminal history.
Apparently they are quickly becoming myth.

There are YouTube videos of probably the most spectacular feat of one of these gangs, a jewelry robbery in Dubai (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MQAjIIQbjM).

I pick Milan Ljepoja, one of their leaders.
http://www.interpol.int/Public/Data/Wanted/Notices/Images/photo/original/2006/08/86/53558386.jpg;pvb4164311df491e32

sawyersauce
10-12-2010, 04:07 AM
I'm taking Tommy Glenn Carmichael - according to wiki he is "considered one of the greatest slot cheats ever". Like my previous pick he was an inventor. He should fit in with my high-tech theme.

Carmichael rose to prominence following the installation of microprocessors in slot-machines that prevented the use of "top-bottom joints" - the previous device of choice for slot-cheats. Carmichael initiated an arms race against the slot manufacturers, constantly creating new devices to beat their new security systems.
He invented the 'monkey paw' a slider that triggered the payout switch inside slot machines. When updated security rendered the paw ineffective Carmichael invented the 'light wand' which could trigger the payout remotely. The slot manufacturers installed new security and Carmichael came up with the 'winder'. So on and so forth, up to his arrest.
He made a killing both using and selling the devices, making $10,000 a day at his peak.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Glenn_Carmichael

http://www.thebonuses.com/tommy-glenn-carmichael.html

He'd be part of the inventors group, along with Taft, for the floor team. Designing and creating systems and devices to help rob the casino.

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/ch13s/1cheat.jpg

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/ch13s/2cheat.jpg


Dasher is up...

AK has 4 pending picks. He seemed to be pretty reliable before, I'd guess his computer crashed or he's on holiday. Regardless... any lurkers reading this want to take over his team?

Jasi
10-12-2010, 05:30 AM
sawyersauce, Ljepoja's role is an actual thief.

Dasher
10-12-2010, 11:09 AM
Heung Wah-Yim leader of Sun Yee On the largest and most powerful of China's Triads. His inclusion in Le Syndicate de Dash open up the very profitable Chinese market to our rackets.

Jasi
10-12-2010, 02:21 PM
It's Style_p's turn, isn't it?

NoGunzJustSkillz
10-12-2010, 02:26 PM
this is awesome. can't wait to read some of this thread when i get a break.

sawyersauce
10-12-2010, 02:48 PM
It's Style_p's turn, isn't it?

Yes.

And still waiting for a volenteer to step-up to take over AK's team. I'd let them cut and reshape if they want, although I suppose it's a little late.

Styles p
10-12-2010, 02:50 PM
Jorge "rivi" Ayala

http://m.blog.hu/ri/riviayala/image/jorge_ayala_mugsht_500.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_jUIEy4ggM

Started out as a car thief in chicago, eventually went to work for a cartel in miami as a contract killer.

he will kill anyone that tries to rip us off.

Jasi
10-12-2010, 03:19 PM
I'd really like to drop my Serb pick in this very moment

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=192959

Jasi
10-13-2010, 05:24 AM
iamgine was next, but his time is up.

Prof.Murder on the clock now...

iamgine
10-13-2010, 06:15 AM
Mullah Omar

BRabbiT
10-13-2010, 07:07 AM
he will kill anyone that tries to rip us off.





Ayala is nuts:eek: :eek:



http://www.thecinemasource.com/moviesdb/images/Cocaine_Cowboys-4-Jorge_Rivi_Ayala.jpg

Styles p
10-13-2010, 12:40 PM
Ayala is nuts:eek: :eek:



http://www.thecinemasource.com/moviesdb/images/Cocaine_Cowboys-4-Jorge_Rivi_Ayala.jpg
more rivi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCt5gnZ9HBg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2-EtjN3PO0&feature=related

sawyersauce
10-13-2010, 10:25 PM
ProfMurder has a pending pick.

Snoop is up.

Snoop_Cat
10-14-2010, 12:35 AM
Every crime group needs a computer/technology hacker/specialist if they want to survive in modern times.

Robert Morris, creator of THE original computer worm will be my pick.

Drug cartels face tons of competition and need to get rid of their opponents.
Face of biological and modern assassinations:

Andrei Lugovoi

sawyersauce
10-14-2010, 02:29 AM
All picks noted.

Lugovoi is a good pick. Scary guy. Former KGB officer. Was once a body-guard of the Russian Prime Minister. Killed a guy by literally giving him radiation-poisoning.

ProfMurder up with two picks.
AK still has 4 pending picks. I'll ask again, does anyone want to take over his team?

Jasi
10-14-2010, 12:13 PM
Looks like we can move on...?

sawyersauce
10-14-2010, 12:17 PM
ProfMurder has 2 pending picks.

Iamgine OTC...

iamgine
10-14-2010, 09:48 PM
Seung-Hui Cho :lol

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3167/2547453400_11c06d5e02.jpg

BRabbiT
10-14-2010, 09:58 PM
Seung-Hui Cho :lol







great pick. criminal mastermind.

sawyersauce
10-15-2010, 03:23 AM
Styles is up.

iamgine
10-15-2010, 05:24 AM
great pick. criminal mastermind.
He'll be great as a lookout while Hitler steal some self-help books.

Styles p
10-15-2010, 11:25 AM
Styles is up.

bout to be out for a long day, i'll make my pick later tonight or tomorrow.

sawyersauce
10-16-2010, 03:43 PM
Interesting picks profM.

Dasher is up.

Styles has a pending pick.

Dasher
10-16-2010, 05:46 PM
http://www.streetgangs.com/movies/pics/larry_hoover.jpg

With Hoover in the fold, my syndicate has an organised street presence in The US, and can squeeze the profits of any drug cartel.

Styles p
10-17-2010, 12:48 AM
Griselda Blanco

[QUOTE] was a drug lord for the Medell

sawyersauce
10-17-2010, 06:59 AM
I'm up...

I'll take Kevin Poulson - as my communications monitor.

Poulson is another black-hat hacker, who operated under the pseudonym 'Dark Dante'. He was notorious for his abilities to hack phonelines. And that isn't just me using the word hack as a deus-ex-machina. He can literally hack into phonelines, to eaves-drop on the FBI, or jam a police station's phone, or crash a communications network, all things he has done. He was also an impressive computer hacker, having broken into FBI computers to obtain information.

His most famous stunt was hijacking a radio station's telephone lines during a competition. The station was awarding a car as a prize to the 102nd caller that day. Hundreds of people were calling in and geting queued up. Poulson rearragned the order of the queue to guarnatee he would be the 102nd caller and thus win the car.

He will be my team's eye in the sky, monitoring communications from the police, casino and any other relevant organisation and jamming or manipulating them for the team's benifit.

Jasi is up.

BRabbiT
10-17-2010, 09:06 AM
Basil Hugh 'The Owl' Banghart

He will be my driver, and if the situation calls for it escape artist and added muscle.







Banghart is a legend:lol

Jasi
10-17-2010, 09:20 AM
Every heist crew needs a beauty.
I select Bojana Mitic.

You guys can't deny this is the most beautiful pick in this draft.

http://www.interpol.int/Public/Data/Wanted/Notices/Images/photo/original/2007/07/22/53744622.jpg

Member of the legendary Pink Panthers like my previous pick Milan Ljepoja (they actually are a couple).
She will especially team up with her man, to act as an extremely effective duo.

Jasi
10-17-2010, 04:49 PM
I guess it's up to me again.

I select another famous con man, George C. Parker.


He made his living selling New York's public landmarks to unwary tourists. His favorite object for sale was the Brooklyn Bridge, which he sold twice a week for years. He convinced his marks that they could make a fortune by controlling access to the roadway. More than once police had to roust naive buyers from the bridge as they tried to erect toll barriers.
Other public landmarks he sold included the original Madison Square Garden[citation needed], the Metropolitan Museum of Art, Grant's Tomb and the Statue of Liberty. George had many different methods for making his sales.


George is remembered as one of the most successful con men in the history of the United States, as well as one of history's most talented hoaxers. His exploits have passed into popular culture, giving rise to phrases such as "and if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you", a popular way of expressing a belief that someone is gullible.

http://content.foxsearchlight.com/files/uploaded/bbridge2.jpg

Bird
10-17-2010, 05:33 PM
All picks noted.

Lugovoi is a good pick. Scary guy. Former KGB officer. Was once a body-guard of the Russian Prime Minister. Killed a guy by literally giving him radiation-poisoning.

ProfMurder up with two picks.
AK still has 4 pending picks. I'll ask again, does anyone want to take over his team?

Never saw if anyone took over ak's picks, but I wouldn't mind hopping in and taking over.

Always wondered what it would be like to set up my own legendary (and brutally violent) criminal team :banana: :banana:

sawyersauce
10-17-2010, 10:25 PM
Never saw if anyone took over ak's picks, but I wouldn't mind hopping in and taking over.

Always wondered what it would be like to set up my own legendary (and brutally violent) criminal team :banana: :banana:

Yeah go for it.

You've got six pending picks, lol. It sucks you didn't actually get to participate in the draft, but go ahead and make those picks whever you want. You can change the nature of his team too if you want, it's currently a mafia in the brothel and prostitution business. Although it might not be a bad idea to keep it that way - there's plenty of big name mafia guys still on the board, no one else went that route.

Pick noted Jasi - I'm up, two seconds.

sawyersauce
10-17-2010, 11:08 PM
I'm taking Ida Summers - as one of my Big Players.

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/ch13s/606de000.jpg

She was a sleight-of-hand casino cheater from the mob-run Vegas of the 70's, famous for her glamour. She'll be one of my big players, taking to the floor with the gear rigged out by Taft and Carmichael and robbing the tables. She already has plenty of experience cheating croupiers and dealers, but unassisted by tech and in a time when getting caught could lose you a finger or two. She'll keep her cool.

Dasher is OTC...

Dasher
10-18-2010, 08:39 AM
Stephen Jory "Britain's Greatest Forger"

His counterfeiting gang created 50 million British pounds.

sawyersauce
10-18-2010, 09:48 AM
Styles is up.

Styles p
10-18-2010, 01:28 PM
Ricky Ross

http://mediaoutrage.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Ricky-Ross.jpg


also known as "Freeway" Ricky Ross , is a convicted drug trafficker best known for the "drug empire" that he presided over in Los Angeles, in the early 1980s.[2] The nickname "Freeway" came from Ross's ownership of several properties along the Harbor Freeway. His old house he grew up in is where a freeway now stands.[3] During the height of his drug dealing, Ross claims to have made "$2 millions in one day."
In 1996, Ross was sentenced to life imprisonment after being convicted of trying to purchase more than 100 kilograms of cocaine from a federal agent. Ross became the subject of controversy later that year when a series of articles by journalist Gary Webb in the San Jose Mercury News brought to light a connection between one of Ross's cocaine sources, Danilo Blandon, and the CIA as part of the Iran-Contra scandal.[4] The decision in Ross's case was brought to a federal court of appeals where his sentence was reduced to 20 years. His sentence has since been reduced further for being a model prisoner and he was moved to a halfway house in California in March 2009, and was released on September 29, 2009.[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_Ross_(drug_trafficker)

distributor

glad there is only one more pick this shit is getting hard to find people.

niko
10-18-2010, 01:29 PM
Ricky Ross

http://mediaoutrage.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Ricky-Ross.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_Ross_(drug_trafficker)

distributor

glad there is only one more pick this shit is getting hard to find people.
And now he raps? Awesome...

Styles p
10-18-2010, 01:36 PM
And now he raps? Awesome...

no fat security guards steal his name and rap with it.

sawyersauce
10-18-2010, 01:37 PM
Yeah, I've already passed into no-wiki territory for some of my picks. One more pick I can handle.

Styles is Zhenli Ye Gon your leader? Or just a source? You could still use your last pick on a Don or something similar to oversee the whole operation. There's heaps of Mafia guys left.

Iamgine is up.

Bird
10-18-2010, 03:06 PM
So, I am taking over ak's team and will in fact keep it together and run my little prostitution business, but I want to turn it into a full fledged organization. Prostitution, business fronts, numbers games and bootlegging (yeah, we are talking legitimate Prohibition era gangsters).

I have a slower than normal internet connection, so it may take me a few hours to post all 6 of my newest gang members, but I plan on drafting all 6 of my slots tonight.

With my first pick, I decided to find a man who worked almost exclusively in the prostitution business and at one point had at least 200 brothels in Chicago. He also eventually worked with (and was possibly murdered by) Al Capone.

James "Diamond Jim" Colosimo


Later on, Colosimo acquired another nickname, "Diamond Jim". This name was given to him because he frequently dressed in a white suit and wore diamond pins, rings, and other jewelry. This jewelry, combined with his charm and money, helped him establish relationships with women. He had a strong interest in women and money, which fueled his enthusiasm for prostitution. In 1902, Colosimo married Victoria Moresco, an established Chicago madam, and the two opened a second brothel. Within a few years, Colosimo expanded his business to nearly 200 brothels and had made inroads into gambling and racketeering.[1]
(From Wikipedia)

With that kind of resume, Colosimo will be in charge of finding women and running the brothels, while Capone will stay in charge of the, organization.

Next up, is actually a buddy of Colosimo and Capone (ok, I may stay pretty close to the Chicago Outfit, but they were full of colorful, smart, successful gangsters), Giovanni "Johnny" Torrio. Ran a lot of Colosimo's brothels, but I want him in because of his relatinoship with Colosimo (they were cousins) and Capone (Capone was Torrio's successor in the chicago outfit and torrio was Colosimo's successor). The primary reason I want Torrio? The respect he is given and his amazing knack of business sense.


He was born Giovanni Torrio in Irsina, a village near Matera, Italy; his father died when he was two years old, and his widowed mother emigrated with him to New York City. His first jobs were as a porter and bouncer in Manhattan. While a teenager, he joined a street gang and became their leader; he eventually managed to save enough money and opened a billiards parlor for the group, out of which grew illegal activities such as gambling and loan sharking. Torrio's shrewd business acumen caught the eye of Paolo Vaccarelli (a.k.a. Paul Kelly), the leader of the famous Five Points Gang. Jimmy "The Shiv" DeStefano and Al Capone were working at the Harvard Inn, Kelly's club. They admired Torrio's quick mind and looked to him as their mentor. Torrio greatly admired Kelly, who knew much about organized crime culture; Kelly convinced the younger man to dress conservatively, stop swearing, and set up a front as a legitimate entrepreneur. The lessons Torrio learned from Kelly stayed with him throughout his career; Torrio eventually earned the moniker of "The Fox" due to his cunning and diplomatic ways.

Torrio's gang ran legitimate businesses, but its main concern was the numbers game, supplemented by incomes from bookmaking, loan sharking, hijacking, prostitution, and opium trafficking. Capone and De Stefano were members of the Juniors, and soon graduated up to the Five Points Gang itself. Torrio eventually hired Al Capone and his buddy Jimmy The Shiv DeStefano to bartend at the Harvard Inn, a bar in the Coney Island section of Brooklyn owned by Torrio's business associate, Francesco Ioele (a.k.a. Frankie Yale).

With these two, I increase the organization's ability to a) run the brothels and "acquire" women to work there and b) have someone that is a fantastic businessman who can get us a few legitimate fronts and run the bootlegging endeavor.

sawyersauce
10-18-2010, 04:03 PM
Okay, thanks Bird - picks noted and welcome to the draft.

Imagine has 5 and a half hours.

Bird
10-18-2010, 04:35 PM
For further clarification on Colosimo and Torrio:

Colosimo - Brothel Management/Prostitution Recruiter
Torrio - Legitimate Fronts Management/ Loan Shark

And, I would like Capone to be labeled The CEO. Gonna make it all sound legit (I will have a complete breakdown in my final post).

Now, onto the next two fellas to join my organization:

Because I want to control as much as possible of the Mid-North east of the continental US (thus giving me a large share of all the going on in America), I need someone who can make me money in the New York area and also control a large portion of the state. Thus, Mario Gigante, racketeering manager and capo of New York.

[QUOTE]Mario began his criminal life as a "made man," or full family member, in caporegime Vito Genovese's Greenwich Village crew. At that time, his brother Vincent was Genovese's chauffeur. During the power struggle between Genovese and then boss Frank Costello, the Gigante brothers were reportedly involved in several significant hits for Genovese. On August 12, 1957, the day after the attempted assassination of Costello, New York Police Department (NYPD) detectives were watching Vincent's house in Greenwich Village. When Mario drove up, detectives took him out of the car and one tried to search him. Mario punched the detective and was arrested for assault. In court, the charge was reduced and Mario paid a $25 fine.[1]

By the 1970s, both Mario and Vincent were capos of their own crews. Neither brother had served significant prison time as they both kept low profiles. In the early 1980s, Vincent became the boss of the Genovese family. Mario rose to become one of the family's highest earners, involved in illegal gambling, loansharking, and other rackets. On January 25, 1975, Mario was indicted on charges of illegal gambling.[2]

On June 16, 1983, Mario was convicted of loansharking and received an eight year prison sentence.[3] However, former New York Senator Alfonse D

Bird
10-18-2010, 05:01 PM
Also, I would like to replace one member that was drafted before I took charge of The Organization.

Instead of Ajmal Kasab as my hitman (I mean, he only accomplished one job), I would like to replace him with a TRUE hitman: Alexander Solonik.


Solonik again went back home to Kurgan, joined the local criminal organization and started work as a hitman. Solonik's first target, the leader of a rival organization, stood little chance and was eliminated in 1990 in the city of Tyumen. After this hit, Solonik travelled to Moscow with other members of the Kurgan organization to seek work. In 1992, Solonik assassinated the Russian thief Viktor Nikiforov. Six months later he murdered another important Russian mob boss. This time the victim was a thief in law, Valeri Dlugatsj. Dlugatsj was shot in a crowded disco despite the fact that he was surrounded by bodyguards. In 1994 Vladislav Vinner was eliminated by Solonik. Vinner had become boss of a rival organization after Dlugatsj's death. It was reported that in 1994 Solonik tried to extort another Russian mobster. The mobster made a speaker phonecall to settle the extortion, and Solonik immediately identified him as Otari Kvantrishvili, one of the most powerful Russian mobsters in history. Apparently, Solonik was unable to extort money from Kvantrishvili and several weeks later murdered him in an act of revenge. However, the story is doubtful as other people from a gang unrelated to Solonik were convicted in 2008 for Kvantrishvili's murder. Rumors spread that he was supported by the Chechnian groups.

By this time, Solonik had become famous among the criminal underworld and law enforcement figures. Law enforcement took special interest and made several attempts to send him back to the prison. Solonik and a fellow criminal were apprehended by the Moscow police when they were having a drink at a Moscow marketplace. The police failed to check Solonik thoroughly and he opened fire in the police station with a small automatic weapon which he concealed under a raincoat. He hit 3 policemen and ran outside. As he fled the station, he shot 2 more police officers. Solonik was also shot (it is said that the bullet hit him in the kidney, which is incredibly painful, though not necessarily lethal). He was cornered, but managed to keep the officers at bay. Eventually he was overpowered and surrendered. Solonik was then sent to a Moscow prison and underwent an operation to remove the bullet in his kidney. In his spare time at the prison, he studied foreign languages. In 1995 he escaped yet again, when his jailer Sergey Menshikov, rumored to be a mob sleeper agent, provided him with a pistol and climbing equipment. Having placed a mannequin under the blanket of Solonik's bed to delay pursuit, the men escaped, using the climbing equipment to grappnel down from the prison roof.

Rumored to have killed more than 300 people. I like my hitmen to be seasoned and professional. He fits the bill.

I will address my next two picks in another hour or two. Gotta do a few things first.

sawyersauce
10-19-2010, 05:48 AM
Iamgine has a pending pick.

ProfMurder OTC...

Jasi
10-19-2010, 12:29 PM
So Snoop_Cat is now on the clock, right?

Bird
10-19-2010, 03:57 PM
Ok, my last two picks:

Guiseppe Antonio "Joe Adonis" Doto

He's going to be my in to the famous people of New York, primarily the theater folks and be another member of the bootlegging side of things.


Doto started supporting himself by stealing and picking pockets. While working on the streets, Doto became friends with future mob boss Charles Lucky Luciano and mobster Settimo "Big Sam" Accardi, who were involved in illegal gambling. Doto developed a strong loyalty to Luciano and Accardi that would last for decades. At the beginning of Prohibition, Luciano and Adonis borrowed $35,000 from other mob associates and started a bootlegging operation in Brooklyn. This operation soon began supplying large amounts of alcohol to the show business community along Broadway in Manhattan. Doto soon assumed the role of a gentleman bootlegger, socializing with the theater elite.

Charles "Lucky" Luciano

The father of modern organized crime, Luciano will be Capone's consigliere. His knowledge and abilities is exactly what The Organization needs.

[QUOTE]Rise to power

At an early age Luciano had established himself as a creative thug on the Lower East Side and eventually worked his way up to being a top aide to crime boss Joe Masseria. In the 1920s Masseria was involved in a prolonged turf war with rival crime boss Salvatore Maranzano.

Masseria was a "Mustache Pete", an old-school mafioso who wanted to preserve the old Mafia ideals of "honor," "tradition," "respect" and dignity in America. Luciano and his contemporaries who had "made their bones" in the United States, on the other hand, were known as the "Young Turks." Like the original Young Turks of the Ottoman Empire, they formed a young, ambitious, impatient group which challenged the established order. The Mustache Petes would not work with anyone who was not Italian, and were skeptical of working with anyone who wasn't Sicilian. Luciano, however, believed that as long as money was being made, the roots of your partner did not matter. He was therefore shocked to hear old mafiosi lecturing him about his dealings with another mobster, Frank Costello, whom they called "the dirty Calabrian." Luciano began building contacts with Young Turks in both factions, and they secretly made plans to push out the Mustache Petes as soon as possible.

One day in 1929, Luciano was forced into a limo at gun point by three men, beaten and stabbed, and dumped on a beach on New York Bay. Luciano survived the ordeal, but was forever marked with a scar and droopy eye. The rare fact of his survival earned him the name "Lucky,"[3] although he may already have earned this nickname in his younger days because of his luck at avoiding police.[2] After his abduction, Luciano found out through Meyer Lansky that it had been ordered by Masseria's enemy, Salvatore Maranzano.[5] However, in an ironic twist, Luciano later cut a secret deal with Maranzano in which Luciano agreed to engineer Masseria's death in return for being made Maranzano's second-in-command.[6] This deal would end the famous Castellammarese War.

The Castellammarese War raged from 1928 to 1932, resulting in the deaths of many mobsters, estimated to be as many as 60.[7] The war was nominally between Maranzano and Masseria, it ended with the assassination of Masseria in a Coney Island restaurant by Bugsy Siegel, Vito Genovese, and Joe Adonis. It is rumored that Luciano was having lunch with Masseria and stepped into the men's room just as the gunmen stormed the restaurant. Luciano then took over Masseria's crime family.[6]

Maranzano then made Luciano his number two man, and set up the Five Families of New York under him, promising that they would all be equal and all be free to make money. However, at a meeting of all the heavy-hitting gangsters in Upstate New York, Maranzano declared himself capo di tutti capi (Boss of all Bosses), which meant every Don in the country had to pay up to him. He also whittled down the rackets of the rival families in order to strengthen his own family.

Luciano seethed inwardly at being lied to and bilked out of a few dollars, but still feigned loyalty to Maranzano. However, he was secretly planning to eliminate Maranzano. He and his colleagues had planned all along to assassinate either Masseria or Maranzano, then bide their time before killing the surviving Mustache Pete as well.

When Meyer Lansky told him that Maranzano had gotten wind of Luciano's plans, Luciano could no longer stand still. Lansky assembled a hit squad to pose as government agents. On the day Maranzano was to hire Luciano's assassin they stormed Maranzano's office, who thought he was being arrested. The squad cut Maranzano to ribbons with a volley of gunfire and repeated stabbings. On the way down the stairs, they met Mad Dog Coll, Luciano's would-be assassin.
[edit] Reorganizing Cosa Nostra

Luciano was now the model mobster, with businesses throughout the country. His longtime friend Meyer Lansky served as his right-hand man, and Luciano always followed Lansky

Snoop_Cat
10-19-2010, 05:25 PM
John Paulson, or the man who famously worked with Goldman Sachs to create one of the biggest (if not biggest) financial frauds ever. His expertise will provide my gang with an outside flow of income apart from drugs as a back up way to keep a steady flow of cash. I actually don't consider him to be a criminal at all, more or so a very good businessman, but the world does apparently. :confusedshrug:

Joaqu

sawyersauce
10-20-2010, 02:17 PM
Okay all picks noted. Lucky Luciano finally went.

Iamgine has 2 pending picks.
Styles is OTC.

Styles p
10-20-2010, 07:13 PM
Fabio Ochoa Restrepo

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1825000/images/_1828235_020218ochoa300b.jpg

[QUOTE]was a Paso Fino enthusiast, rancher, businessman, and patriarch of a notorious Colombian crime family associated with the Medell

sawyersauce
10-22-2010, 03:18 AM
Okay - Iamgine has 2 pending picks and Dasher has 1 pending pick.

I'm up.

I'm taking Louis 'The Coin' Colavecchio. A former jeweler, he specialised his criminal career in making fake poker chips and slot coins. Colavecchio either sold the counterfeits in batches or used/cashed them himself. It's supposably very difficult to make counterfeit chips that actually fool the machines, hence why this isn't done very often, his unique skills will be useful for the floor team.

http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/counterfeits.jpg

http://www.slotmachinesbonuscodes.com/slot-machine-colavecchio.html

Jasi is OTC.

Jasi
10-22-2010, 03:38 AM
My last pick is another member for the team of thieves.

http://www.perillos.com/goedertier.jpg

[B]Ars

Dasher
10-22-2010, 08:51 AM
I am taking music impresario Berry Gordy. Payola is a crime, and Berry was proficient in the practice. Motown provides another avenue for our syndicate to wash our money.

Jailblazers7
10-22-2010, 09:45 AM
Love Dashers creativity in this draft. Never thought Berry Gordy would get selected lol.

sawyersauce
10-22-2010, 10:06 AM
I am taking music impresario Berry Gordy. Payola is a crime, and Berry was proficient in the practice. Motown provides another avenue for our syndicate to wash our money.

Pretty much every article I have read so far on Gordy has said he did not partake in payola schemes. Can you link me to something that confirms it?

Bird is OTC...
Iamgine has 2 pending picks.

Dasher
10-22-2010, 12:09 PM
Pretty much every article I have read so far on Gordy has said he did not partake in payola schemes. Can you link me to something that confirms it?

Bird is OTC...
Iamgine has 2 pending picks.
Motown has had to pay settlements for multiple times, and used independent promoters to funnel money to radio DJs just like everyone else. If Berry is still too grey a pick, I am willing to take Lou Pearlman, the man behind Backstreet Boys, N'Sync, and New Kids On The Block for the same reasons.

sawyersauce
10-22-2010, 12:19 PM
Motown has had to pay settlements for multiple times, and used independent promoters to funnel money to radio DJs just like everyone else. If Berry is still too grey a pick, I am willing to take Lou Pearlman, the man behind Backstreet Boys, N'Sync, and New Kids On The Block for the same reasons.

Eh don't stress, i'll allow him.

Bird
10-22-2010, 05:11 PM
My final pick: Paul Sciacca, Enforcer, New York District


Paul Sciacca (June 15, 1909-August 1986) was a feared Brooklyn, New York based mobster who rose to power in the 1950s and 1960s serving as enforcer for the Bonanno crime family under longtime boss Joseph Bonanno, known as "Joe Bananas" to his peers. Sciacca continued his rise to prominence in New York's mafia as a war chief during the infamous "Bananas War", and then as acting boss of the Bonanno crime family under Joe Bonanno successor Gaspar DiGregorio. Sciacca was at the pinnacle of his underworld power and influence when he was officially promoted to boss by The Commission after DiGregorio retired in 1968.

BRabbiT
10-22-2010, 05:23 PM
My final pick: Paul Sciacca, Enforcer, New York District




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