Olajuwon has created a monster.

[ronnymac]

Anyone watch Howard toy with Yao. Howard has now developed an damn good offensive arsenal of post moves and a seemingly solid jumpshot. He made some really nifty baby hooks and spin moves all over Yao. All he needed was a offensive arsenal of moves to be a top 3 player in this league and now he has it.

[Point Blank]

I'll have to check out the highlights.

[Go Getter]

Gotta do it night in and night out and not just in a pre-season game against a guy who is going easy because he hasn't played in a year.

[ronnymac]

Gotta do it night in and night out and not just in a pre-season game against a guy who is going easy because he hasn't played in a year.
He also did it against Hill and Hayes who is one of the best post defenders in the league. Howards post game is for real. with his Size, agility and first step noone in this league can even dream of stopping him from here on. This shows how good the dream really was

[Megatron7281]

Gotta do it night in and night out and not just in a pre-season game against a guy who is going easy because he hasn't played in a year.
This......

[ronnymac]

And an RG post. You must be burning that Howard destroyed yao.:roll:

[Megatron7281]

He also did it against Hill and Hayes who is one of the best post defenders in the league.
lol....

[PHILA]

He also worked with a "mystery mentor". Perhaps Shaq?


http://www.magicbasketball.net/2010/09/23/dwight-howard-looks-to-avenge-last-season/

[I]He didn

[Go Getter]

He also did it against Hill and Hayes who is one of the best post defenders in the league. Howards post game is for real. with his Size, agility and first step noone in this league can even dream of stopping him from here on. This shows how good the dream really was


I'd like to hope that he has gotten better but in the playoffs is where he'll need to show his improved post game.

While Hill and Hayes might be venerable post defenders they aren't comparable to Perk/KG and Gasol/Bynum.

[ronnymac]

lol....
As i said RG, you must be burning that Yao got pulled down and taught a lesson by Howard. Considering you're mere exsistence is based on proving Yao>Dwight.

[ImmortalNemesis]

Gotta do it night in and night out and not just in a pre-season game against a guy who is going easy because he hasn't played in a year.

Exactly.
What the f*ck is this shit? :facepalm How about we wait a little longer before ZOMGing and deciding to make a thread, 1 preseason game doesn't cut it. FTR I think Dwight has been a top 3 player in the league for quite some time now.


He also did it against Hill and Hayes who is one of the best post defenders in the league.

Howard has always toyed with C. Hayes, he was beasting on him last year too. I want D. Howard to improve but lets not overreact to one first pre-season game.

[ronnymac]

I'd like to hope that he has gotten better but in the playoffs is where he'll need to show his improved post game.

While Hill and Hayes might be venerable post defenders they aren't comparable to Perk/KG and Gasol/Bynum.
I think he'll do it and do it well. He looks alot better on offense.

[Rose]

Exactly.
What the f*ck is this shit? :facepalm How about we wait a little longer before ZOMGing and deciding to make a thread, 1 preseason game doesn't cut it. FTR I think Dwight has been a top 3 player in the league for quite some time now.



Howard has always toyed with C. Hayes, he was beasting on him last year too. I want D. Howard to improve but lets not overreact to one first pre-season game.
I agree with you!

[Rowe]

He also worked with a "mystery mentor". Perhaps Shaq?


http://www.magicbasketball.net/2010/09/23/dwight-howard-looks-to-avenge-last-season/

He didn’t say it, but he understood that he was part of the problem. That’s why this summer, Howard sought out some of the greatest ever to play — Hakeem Olajuwon, Karl Malone, and a mystery mentor he refused to name — to get advice on how to get past this hurdle.


Mystery mentor could be KAJ. He probably doesn't want to name him since hes a paid Lakers assistant.

[ashbelly]

:lol Yao right now can't guard a manikin, dude has two left feet :oldlol: and can't move laterally. Hayes aint got the hops to keep up with him.. until he does thi against jason maxiel, i'll assume it's one of those games that he shows flashes of what he's been working on but can't do them consistently over a period of time.. e.g Magic vs the lakers regular season game in staples last season. dude was making all shots off the glass. i haven't seen him do that eversince. we'll wait and see.

[Scoooter]

Highlights, Magic v. Rockets, 10.05.2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EtCPo4O9-U)

[Harison]

Dwight looked really good, now he just needs consistency. Also its a bit unfair to say how he toyed with Yao, who is rusty as hell and coming from an injury.

[keep-itreal]

that boy is a monsterrrrr....

[Da KO King]

Dhwight Howard's problem isn't his ability to make moves it's understanding when and where to make them.

[Myth]

Just watched highlights on ESPN. Looks like Yao lost what little lateral movement he had on defense. No wonder Howard looked great against him.

[Magic Vinsanity]

Obviously its just one pre-season game, but the signs are encouraging. Howard has the chance for a breakout offensive season.

[Kblaze8855]

Dhwight Howard's problem isn't his ability to make moves it's understanding when and where to make them.

I agree. And I love his game for the most part. But he goes at it kinda like kids. Or at least post players who arent taught from the ground up. He seems to make moves he decides to make in advance. He might fake one way and come back..spin...all that. Not because its what the defense requires. But because he decided to fake one way...spin...come back...whatever. anyone can perform the moves Hakeem and Mchale did. But most who do do them the same way Dwight does. We have all done a dreamshake...having set out to perform it.

Hakeem generally did it as a reaction to the defense mid move. Hakeem and Dwight do the same move Hakeems was probably a counter to his first move being defended well. Dwight does the counter without the first move being met because he set out score off the counter and had no intention of using the first move.

Hakeem did just toy with people at times in the same way....but more often than not he did something basic as hell and only went beyond it when it was well defended. Lots of people biting him(kids on up to the NBA) set out to score off the counter without having set it up by the first move being effective a few times.

Same way with people doing the Jordan shoulder fake one way fadeaway the other way thing...when they have not set it up.

The only ones that work well without being set up by previous success are the flashy ones that depend on letting a lot of the ball show depending on human instinct to go after it. Like rondos little show the ball and spin into a jump hook. Hakeem used to do something similar.

But those are rare.

Too many people try to learn the second and even third move because counters are flashy and they want to get to them without mastering the reasons counters work to begin with....the first move being effective enough that the defense reacts to your attempting it in a predictable way. They go to block/contest it because they know where you shoot it from. You counter off that.

Hakeem didnt have all those moves out of nowhere. He just stuck with the ones he had till they started being well defended and chained the rest along over time. He always had crazy agility and would make shots from odd angles but the moves people relate to him most developed over quite a while until they peaked in the mid 90s.

These days people try to go from a shaky jump hook or turnaround jumper nobody respects enough to work to stop to moves that are supposed to be used...when someone works out a defense for the first move.

Its trying to build a house without a foundation and it doesnt take long for coaches these days who have DVD footage of every play a day after it happens to figure out that the guys who try it without a go to move can be easily stopped. You see a lot of this shit early in the year from people who tack on "post moves" over the summer. Then by december its gone.

I hope Dwight was taught the right way this time because it often seems hes trying to skip the basics to get to the flashy parts. But hes such a physical monster he doesnt have to do things right to get good looks so...whatever.

[chungerball]

He also did it against Hill and Hayes who is one of the best post defenders in the league. Howards post game is for real. with his Size, agility and first step noone in this league can even dream of stopping him from here on. This shows how good the dream really was

You do know that it's a preseason game right? Showing signs does not mean it will happen on a consistent basis. You are truly overreacting to these so called post moves.

[chungerball]

I think he'll do it and do it well. He looks alot better on offense.

You think? What an objective thought.

[Da KO King]

I hope Dwight was taught the right way this time because it often seems hes trying to skip the basics to get to the flashy parts. But hes such a physical monster he doesnt have to do things right to get good looks so...whatever.
Honestly I don't think it's Howard skipping the basics as much as it is he's learning and practicing his moves in no defense situations. Howard has little understanding of how and where the moves work.

[Toizumi]

Honestly I don't think it's Howard skipping the basics as much as it is he's learning and practicing his moves in no defense situations. Howard has little understanding of how and where the moves work.

True.
Sometimes you just get the feeling that he doesn't know when to pull of his moves and doesn't seem to anticipate on how the defense reacts on his moves/presence.
I haven't seen the first preseason games, but I hope that instead of just increasing his arsenal this summer (which isn't bad thing of course), Howard focussed on timing and really getting some go-to moves down.

[All Net]

Great for the league if he has worked on his post game and has improved. For how good a player he is, it's quite weak.

[Meticode]

I'll have to watch an actual game because the highlights showed me nothing he's already done.

[zORi]

Obviously its just one pre-season game, but the signs are encouraging. Howard has the chance for a breakout offensive season.

This is how I feel.

I won't get excited that he beasted in a preseason game, but it's definitely a good sign. I just hope he can be consistent.

Here's a little documentary on his work with Hakeem this summer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mArHU1ewSog&feature=player_embedded#!

[ThaRegul8r]

I'll have to watch an actual game because the highlights showed me nothing he's already done.

*Doesn't understand this post. If the highlights show nothing he's already done, that would mean that all of it was new, which would seem to be a good thing*

:confusedshrug:

[NotYetGreat]

I'll have to watch an actual game because the highlights showed me nothing he's already done.

Same. The highlights did nothing to show what the OP's saying. Really wish I could watched that game. They broadcasted the Heat-Pistons game though where I am. Gonna catch the reply of that.

[Harison]

@ Kblaze

Great post all-around, just one small addition - Dwight and many others go for flashy counter move before they even need to use it not only because they dont have a go-to move, but simply because they lack BBIQ to read the defense and adjust mid-way. Hakeem and especially McHale had flatout amazing footwork to counter whatever defense threw at them. If they werent defended well, they just scored in simple and most efficient way, if defense reacted - countered one way or another, it was a poetry in motion :applause:

Or how Jordan could adjust and counter both in the air and on the ground, rarely we can see it nowadays... :(

[zORi]

Highlights, Magic v. Rockets, 10.05.2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EtCPo4O9-U)

Dwight got kinda gipped in those highlights, didn't even show any of his off the glass stuff.

[Ghettobird]

Looked very good but Lets see a few more games

[SCREWstonRockets]

As i said RG, you must be burning that Yao got pulled down and taught a lesson by Howard. Considering you're mere exsistence is based on proving Yao>Dwight.
:oldlol: This might be one of the few times Dwight actually outplayed Yao, who played his first game in over a year. Dwight did look good though.

[Dwade305]

Somebody should have fouled that *****, but its preseason so its understandable.

[Fatal9]

This is how I feel.

I won't get excited that he beasted in a preseason game, but it's definitely a good sign. I just hope he can be consistent.

Here's a little documentary on his work with Hakeem this summer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mArHU1ewSog&feature=player_embedded#!
damn, Dream still noticeably quicker in his moves over Dwight. nice video.

[Ghettobird]

dream's still got the moves

[Da_Realist]

Loved watching Hakeem play. Wish I had more of his games.

[MMKM]

Mystery mentor = Bill Russell

I'll believe it when I see it, I bet he's still clanking jump hooks off the side of the backboard come playoff time.

[Da_Realist]

Excellent video :applause:

[juju151111]

Excellent video :applause:
http://www.youtube.com/user/sheba021#g/u

Anyone find it funny how Hakeem is still quicker with the Post the dwight??
Dwight needs way more training. This guy seems to have some rare hakeem games http://www.youtube.com/user/sheba021#g/u

[KareemCambell]

still has to do it against perk and gasol bynum

[Dwade305]

still has to do it against perk and gasol bynum
Damn the League sucks

[RajonKGcelts]

He also did it against Hill and Hayes who is one of the best post defenders in the league. Howards post game is for real. with his Size, agility and first step noone in this league can even dream of stopping him from here on. This shows how good the dream really was


Wait until he faces Boston and he gets shutdown. His post moves still don't exist. Wait until he can do it for a whole season against someone who has played in the last year. Poor Orlando fans, every year they think they'll get over the hump and there more well rounded than the Celtics in the East. Wrong. They won't even beat the Heat

[KareemCambell]

Damn the League sucks

:lol
yeah

[step_back]

Howard has always struggled with his "Go2Moves" if he can add some great footwork and post up skills to his already great defensive game he can finally start dominating both ends of the floor.

Also why did it take 6/7 years for Dwight to start learning from Hakeem, they both have a simular build, height and altheltic ability. It would have been good if they had started work with each back when Dwight was a rookie.

[SCREWstonRockets]

Also why did it take 6/7 years for Dwight to start learning from Hakeem, they both have a simular build, height and altheltic ability. It would have been good if they had started work with each back when Dwight was a rookie.

Hakeem is more of a finesse player while Dwight is more power/strength player. It'd be better if he was learning from Shaq.

[el_locoteee]

He also did it against Hill and Hayes who is one of the best post defenders in the league. Howards post game is for real. with his Size, agility and first step noone in this league can even dream of stopping him from here on. This shows how good the dream really was

Actually and as surprise to me, Hill play really good defense against Howard. Howard did not look like when he play against Yao, because he was able to stay with him and contest the shot out of the spin moves. But still to small of a game to get some conclusion.

I think once the league see what Howard got new on his game, the team will adjust. Yao who was slow and out of timing, was defending like the old Howard stay back and making him make shoot and he did forcing Yao to playing closer and use his quickness to get around him.

[kumquat]

Dwight had no idea what he was doing :oldlol:

[el_locoteee]

Hakeem is more of a finesse player while Dwight is more power/strength player. It'd be better if he was learning from Shaq.

No, Hakeem is the right player to learn from. Howard doesn't have a strong of base or the weight to overwhelm big center and thats been his Achilles heel vs bigger center. His strengths are speed and athletic jumping abilities for his size and in my opinion Hakeem is the best player to learn from and to model (with his style) his game around.

[Kujo]

Howard has always struggled with his "Go2Moves" if he can add some great footwork and post up skills to his already great defensive game he can finally stary dominating both ends of the floor.

Also why did it take 6/7 years for Dwight to start learning from Hakeem, they both have a simular build, height and altheltic ability. It would have been good if they had started work with each back when Dwight was a rookie.

This.

He should have sought Hakeem's help years ago, but better late than never.

Looking at the training video of Hakeem, and Dwight, it looks like Dwight has picked up some nice post moves. If he can't learn from the arguably the greatest offensive center in the leagues history, who can he learn from?

None of this will matter if the Magic don't feed him the ball in the post on a consistent basis, which has been a problem. If he really has improved his offensive game, he'll get more touches.

[step_back]

Hakeem is more of a finesse player while Dwight is more power/strength player. It'd be better if he was learning from Shaq.

He does not have the same size advantage as shaq, Dwight is around 6'10/11 and about 275, Shaq is a legit 7'1 and 355.

Dwight will be a lot more productive with finesse then just trying to bully people.

[Willkill24]

Yes he has and the league better watch out 24/15/3 and MVP and DPOY this year. :rockon:

[ZenMaster]

Dhwight Howard's problem isn't his ability to make moves it's understanding when and where to make them.

The guy used to have footwork like
http://images.theage.com.au/ftage/ffximage/2009/01/15/robocop300_090115121741642_wideweb__300x300.jpg

If he can be about as good as he looked vs Houston for the season the eastern conference is going to be so crazy.

[ZenMaster]

This.

He should have sought Hakeem's help years ago, but better late than never.

Looking at the training video of Hakeem, and Dwight, it looks like Dwight has picked up some nice post moves. If he can't learn from the arguably the greatest offensive center in the leagues history, who can he learn from?

None of this will matter if the Magic don't feed him the ball in the post on a consistent basis, which has been a problem. If he really has improved his offensive game, he'll get more touches.

Where can I watch this?

[Papaya Petee]

:lol
yeah
If you don't like it go away, we don't need criticizing fans like you.

[UK-NJ]

Where can I watch this?
Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mArHU1ewSog&feature=player_embedded#)

[zORi]

Wait until he faces Boston and he gets shutdown. His post moves still don't exist. Wait until he can do it for a whole season against someone who has played in the last year. Poor Orlando fans, every year they think they'll get over the hump and there more well rounded than the Celtics in the East. Wrong. They won't even beat the Heat

LOL, and poor Celtics fans. They really think if they "just stay healthy" they'll win the whole thing.

They don't realize that they won't ever all be healthy for long stretches, even last years playoffs was considering a dream run by most people, those don't happen frequently.

[ILLsmak]

No, Hakeem is the right player to learn from. Howard doesn't have a strong of base or the weight to overwhelm big center and thats been his Achilles heel vs bigger center. His strengths are speed and athletic jumping abilities for his size and in my opinion Hakeem is the best player to learn from and to model (with his style) his game around.

No...

Dwight might not be as much of a monster as Shaq, but he is still physically superior than the majority of the league. Nobody in the league can bang with Dwight AND keep up with him on the face up game.

To learn from Hakeem would be wasting a large portion of Dwight's advantages.

Even the good moves he made in that video were more Shaq-like than Hakeem like...

Hakeem was a soccer player with a jumper that was wet with nearly 3 point range. lol... even if Dwight ever got that sort of a game he'd be wasting his talent.

All Dwight needs to do is learn how to post up the people who are smaller (instead of trying to face everyone up) and learn how to face up people and drive by them without the fear of getting fouled. Dude should be able to get around someone like Shaq every time but he doesn't cuz he's afraid. Having a face up jumper with his feet set would be good, though... but seeing him do a dream shake or a fade away, or hanging out around 18 feet would be a travesty.

-Smak

[ZenMaster]

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mArHU1ewSog&feature=player_embedded#)

Thanks a lot

[el_locoteee]

No...

Dwight might not be as much of a monster as Shaq, but he is still physically superior than the majority of the league. Nobody in the league can bang with Dwight AND keep up with him on the face up game.

To learn from Hakeem would be wasting a large portion of Dwight's advantages.

Even the good moves he made in that video were more Shaq-like than Hakeem like...

Hakeem was a soccer player with a jumper that was wet with nearly 3 point range. lol... even if Dwight ever got that sort of a game he'd be wasting his talent.

All Dwight needs to do is learn how to post up the people who are smaller (instead of trying to face everyone up) and learn how to face up people and drive by them without the fear of getting fouled. Dude should be able to get around someone like Shaq every time but he doesn't cuz he's afraid. Having a face up jumper with his feet set would be good, though... but seeing him do a dream shake or a fade away, or hanging out around 18 feet would be a travesty.

-Smak

Hakeem not only teach you how to front but how to post too. DH doesn't have a a strong base in the post, low center of gravity and strong leg with a thick lowbody, he has a slim body with huge shoulder not the overwhelming body to be Shaq like. If try that vs smaller center maybe, but vs conventional center he will be playing into their hands is like as asking Amare to spot using his speed and try to bang other players.

[ILLsmak]

Hakeem not only teach you how to front but how to post too. DH doesn't have a a strong base in the post, low center of gravity and strong leg with a thick lowbody, he has a slim body with huge shoulder not the overwhelming body to be Shaq like. If try that vs smaller center maybe, but vs conventional center he will be playing into their hands is like as asking Amare to spot using his speed and try to bang other players.

You should know that if you can drop step both ways and finish with either hand, it doesn't matter how much you weigh. Especially if you can rise up. It's not like Dwight is small, either.

It was easier for Shaq because he's a monster and people had to push into him a lot even if he leaned on them. But if you get any sort of contact in the post you should be able to drop step.

Notice Hakeem was teaching him drops steps, too, and he said "It's ova. All Day." etc...

IMO, With Dwight he could focus on this (assuming he posted on the left side of the floor)

Drop step right = finish with dunk. (Hard to imagine help getting there baseline.)

Drop step left = hook.

Now on the other side, it's harder because not many people want to drop step into the middle of the lane. But he could still do a right handed hook over someone.

And that's assuming he never develops his left hand at all. Keep it simple for Dwight... he's already got an advantage. He's put up his numbers as they are without any worthwhile post moves, why not teach him some basic ones and fundamentals and see how he does for a season instead of trying to get him to dream shake?

-Smak

[magnax1]

Looks good, and I could tell what he did translated to his game vs. Houston. However, I said he looked good last preseason too.

[ZenMaster]

You should know that if you can drop step both ways and finish with either hand, it doesn't matter how much you weigh. Especially if you can rise up. It's not like Dwight is small, either.

It was easier for Shaq because he's a monster and people had to push into him a lot even if he leaned on them. But if you get any sort of contact in the post you should be able to drop step.

Notice Hakeem was teaching him drops steps, too, and he said "It's ova. All Day." etc...

IMO, With Dwight he could focus on this (assuming he posted on the left side of the floor)

Drop step right = finish with dunk. (Hard to imagine help getting there baseline.)

Drop step left = hook.

Now on the other side, it's harder because not many people want to drop step into the middle of the lane. But he could still do a right handed hook over someone.

And that's assuming he never develops his left hand at all. Keep it simple for Dwight... he's already got an advantage. He's put up his numbers as they are without any worthwhile post moves, why not teach him some basic ones and fundamentals and see how he does for a season instead of trying to get him to dream shake?

-Smak

Dwight already had basic ones though.

What Hakeem did in the video was terrific, he gave him the frame for how to be a great post player. Moves and counter moves that fits, he also gave pointers on when to use what.

He said he had to get a baseline drop step every quarter because it opens 3 options for other moves on later possessions. This could be something to look for when watching Dwight this year to see if he can really implement these moves in game situations.

I think it shows great work ethic by Dwight, he's got everything but an offensive arsenal so he mind as well try to develop it. There is absolutely no way it can be a negative that he's learning footwork and post moves from one of the all time greats.

[blondie]

I saw this game, it was just Dwight hitting alot of shots he never makes and getting some lucky circus layups that have a 20% chance to go in.

I expect him to go back to his usual clanking 2 post move self come playoff time

[OnceInADECADE]

:lol :lol @ anyone laughing @ me saying Dwight isnt 2nd best player

[ZenMaster]

:lol :lol @ anyone laughing @ me saying Dwight isnt 2nd best player

He might be after this year, he has to prove it though.

[zORi]

I saw this game, it was just Dwight hitting alot of shots he never makes and getting some lucky circus layups that have a 20% chance to go in.

I expect him to go back to his usual clanking 2 post move self come playoff time

LOL, now I know you only saw the highlights.

"Lucky circus shots"? :facepalm

[OnceInADECADE]

LOL, now I know you only saw the highlights.

"Lucky circus shots"? :facepalm


yeah Dwight is a beast

2nd best player in the League :bowdown: :bowdown:

[blondie]

LOL, now I know you only saw the highlights.

"Lucky circus shots"? :facepalm
yep he had about 3 layups that were circus shots. The rest were just the same shots he hits regular seasons and then mysteriously abandon him come playoff time.

[Da_Realist]

I saw this game, it was just Dwight hitting alot of shots he never makes and getting some lucky circus layups that have a 20% chance to go in.

I expect him to go back to his usual clanking 2 post move self come playoff time

:oldlol:

[15yearmagicfan]

That was sick as hell and if you watch him in the first pre season game it was obvious that he was about 10X more confident and fluid with his post up game. Yao always gave him problems because of his huge size and it threw him off but not now as he has plan B to go to which makes all other options extremely more effective.

I can't believe the amount of juvenile, worthless posts in this thread! I think you need to prove you graduated from high school before posing on ISH from now on. And NO GED's!

[zORi]

yep he had about 3 layups that were circus shots. The rest were just the same shots he hits regular seasons and then mysteriously abandon him come playoff time.
I just noticed you had a red bar with only 65 posts.

This conversation is done.

[BlueandGold]

Since when is Olajuwon coaching Dwight?

[15yearmagicfan]

I just noticed you had a red bar with only 65 posts.

This conversation is done.


BINGO.

[GiveItToBurrito]

[QUOTE=PHILA]He also worked with a "mystery mentor". Perhaps Shaq?


http://www.magicbasketball.net/2010/09/23/dwight-howard-looks-to-avenge-last-season/

[I]He didn

[Horde of Temujin]

I really hope this kid can up his offensive game, Hakeem in my mind (my mind, my opinion so don't flip out people) in his prime was the best big man ever, so fluid, smooth and agile.

That's been my knock on Dwight as great defensively he is, on offense he's barely even been a one-trick pony. I've been accused of being a Dwight hater, but i like him and i hope he flourishes under Hakeem's tutelage and gives that other Florida team some problems

[KareemCambell]

Since when is Olajuwon coaching Dwight?
they worked out during the offseason

[DPittman]

still has to do it in the playoffs when the tough defense comes

[ZenMaster]

Since when is Olajuwon coaching Dwight?

Since this summer.

[NotYetGreat]

Just realized, does anyone know where I can actually watch the games? Any site where they have it recorded or something?

[KareemCambell]

Just realized, does anyone know where I can actually watch the games? Any site where they have it recorded or something?


the workouts of dwight and hakeem?

[NotYetGreat]

the workouts of dwight and hakeem?

Nope. Someone posted a YouTube vid a coupl'a days ago and I watched it. I mean the pre-season games.