View Full Version : Is it too early for me to call Evan Turner a bust?
O.J A 6'4Mamba
10-06-2010, 09:26 PM
He was awful in summer league, where John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins excelled
He was awful his preaseason debut, where John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins excelled.
He seems like mid to late 1st round type of talent, what the hell were the Sixers thinking picking him in front of Cousins as the 2nd pick.
YouCallILose
10-06-2010, 09:27 PM
Yes it is, but he's going to be a bust :lol
KB2009Champ
10-06-2010, 09:27 PM
man i was just thinking about making a thread about it.
he looks awful. but its still early. sometimes it just takes a while
Willkill24
10-06-2010, 09:28 PM
:facepalm
StacksOnDeck
10-06-2010, 09:28 PM
Even Turner? Who's that?
Point Blank
10-06-2010, 09:28 PM
You gotta be kidding me, lol.
icewill36
10-06-2010, 09:29 PM
He was awful in summer league, where John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins excelled
He was awful his preaseason debut, where John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins excelled.
He seems like mid to late 1st round type of talent, what the hell were the Sixers thinking picking him in front of Cousins as the 2nd pick.
lol probably thinking saw bowie/jordan, oden/durant.... FAIL, turner blows
BlueandGold
10-06-2010, 09:30 PM
no, he hasnt played a single nba game. kwame brown did good in preseason as well.
Lebron23
10-06-2010, 09:30 PM
I was not really impressed with his performance in the NBA Summer League and in his first preseason game. Thank God the Sixers didn't trade Andre Iguodala.
kobelamarjackson
10-06-2010, 09:31 PM
Yes, it's way early. At least wait for the season to start to make such a ridiculous claim.
Lebron23
10-06-2010, 09:31 PM
Yes it is, but he's going to be a bust :lol
Are you Joyner82?
OnceInADECADE
10-06-2010, 09:33 PM
it was a terrible pick. They should have got Cousins not Evan
Styles p
10-06-2010, 09:35 PM
im not gonna call him a bust yet. but as a sixer fan i wanted cousins since we got the second pick lottery day.
ashbelly
10-06-2010, 09:35 PM
The fact that it took him 3/4 years in college to be a household name speaks volume of his talent. I think he is a slow learner(not retarded), it might take him about 2 or 3 years but he'll get there.
DeuceWallaces
10-06-2010, 09:36 PM
It's too early to call him a bust, but it's definitely not too early to be very worried. It means absolutely nothing to do well in summer league and pre season, but it absolutely means something to play poorly in both cases.
YouCallILose
10-06-2010, 09:36 PM
Are you Joyner82?
Excuse me?
pahisc
10-06-2010, 10:26 PM
How can you honestly call Evan Turner a bust and manage to still be on OJ's nuts? Sure, Mayo is alright, but at best he is the forth best player from that draft class, and Turner hasn't even played a regular season game yet.
JellyBean
10-06-2010, 10:34 PM
It is way too early....but we might as well get ready to call him that. 15% from the field?:confusedshrug: Hopefully he will get it figured out.
Rekindled
10-06-2010, 10:35 PM
the fact that jodie meeks starts over him ( and outplayed him by far) says something
dbugz
10-06-2010, 10:35 PM
Brandon Roy 2.0
both overrated
Lebron23
10-06-2010, 10:39 PM
the fact that jodie meeks starts over him ( and outplayed him by far) says something
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
hoopaddict08
10-06-2010, 10:51 PM
I don't think he will be a bust. Perhaps may not live up to the second pick overall though. But some players take more time to adjust than others.
DeMarcus Cousins dominated the first half of the summer-league, but he struggled the second half.
Greg Monroe started out slow in the summerleague, but finished it off with some big games.
My point is, young guys will struggle at some point. Eventually Cousins, Favors, Wall, etc.. will all go through it at some point in their young career. Turner might suck in the summerleague, and for the rest of the pre-season, but come out swinging in the regular season. We only have a very small sample size before us, so I think it is too early to come him a bust. Unless you were never impressed with him to begin with. And when I say that, I mean you have actually watched him in college.
AirTupac
10-06-2010, 11:20 PM
Is it too early to say John Wall is a top 50 player already?
PleezeBelieve has been hyping Evan Turner up. I blame him. Too early to call him a bust but its perfectly normal to be concerned about his performances. I havent seen him this preseason tho so I cant call him. SL he looked weak.
magnax1
10-06-2010, 11:32 PM
Yes it is, but he's going to be a bust :lol
This.... probably.
dallaslonghorn
10-06-2010, 11:35 PM
There are legitimate reasons to be concerned:
1) He's not an elite athlete.
2) He's not a great outside shooter.
He was basically a 6'7 point at Ohio State and he used his height to see over his defenders and shoot over them. He needs the ball in his hands to be effective, but I don't think he's good enough to be a #1 perimeter option in the league -- can he create good looks and penetrate against the 6'5+ athletic wing defenders in the league?
He's talented enough at his size that he won't be a bust, but I have my doubts as to whether he'll justify his #2 selection.
He reminds me of the Phx Suns version of Grant Hill.
oh the horror
10-06-2010, 11:45 PM
You know what gets me about your average basketball fan? They dont know sh*t, and they never seem to learn from their past mistakes.
How many threads, have been bumped over the years, where some of you, or others, have attempted to predict how a player will turn out, only to be miserably WRONG?
The fact is, some of you need to stop with this nonsense of predicting a players ability/career before the player has even had a concrete chance of getting out there, and ADJUSTING TO THE DAMN NBA LEVEL.
I mean jesus christ almighty, the kid has barely had a chance to get his feet wet....NOT ALL EARLY LOTTERY PICKS COME IN AND ARE INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL.
Thus is the nature of rookies. Some DO turn out to be busts, but mostly these players need time to develop, AND to adjust their game to the NBA level.
This isnt some random adjustment, where you just walk into some pickup game, and go on your merry way. College to the NBA is highly different.
Wait until at least a year or two of him playing horrible, to throw around that "bust" label. Christ, its like a broken record with that shit. :oldlol:
Maniak
10-06-2010, 11:48 PM
Yes.
Doranku
10-07-2010, 12:12 AM
:oldlol: @ calling him a bust after a few Summer League games and one pre-season game. Kid's gonna be a top 5 SG in the League once he gets a few years under his belt.
Book it.
no pun intended
10-07-2010, 12:26 AM
COME BACK IVERSON :cry:
el gringos
10-07-2010, 12:39 AM
I've only been trying to tell you for as long as he's been considered a top pick- I has him at 19 in the draft class (6-8 of those guys ahead didn't enter) .
Da KO King
10-07-2010, 12:47 AM
I've only been trying to tell you for as long as he's been considered a top pick- I has him at 19 in the draft class (6-8 of those guys ahead didn't enter) .
I'd really like to see the list of 18 players you had ahead of Evan Turner.
ashbelly
10-07-2010, 12:48 AM
Brandon Roy 2.0
both overrated
:no: :no: :no: :no:
Willkill24
10-07-2010, 12:50 AM
2011 Boy.
brandonislegend
10-07-2010, 02:46 AM
:oldlol: @ calling him a bust after a few Summer League games and one pre-season game. Kid's gonna be a top 5 SG in the League once he gets a few years under his belt.
Book it.
?????
el gringos
10-07-2010, 03:02 AM
I'd really like to see the list of 18 players you had ahead of Evan Turner.
.............
Wall
Bradley
..
X
.......
Elias Harris
Singler
...
Motiejunas
Vesely
Monroe
.......
Cousins
sacre
............
All easily better, guys close but imo better
M lee
.
FAvors
Aldrich(who never should have been a top 5ish either)
........
Don't remember but know I thout turner was worthy of a 19Ish type pick
TMacsOneGoodEye
10-07-2010, 03:35 AM
Dude hasn't even had an NBA game yet. :oldlol:
franchise#3
10-07-2010, 04:18 AM
Kobe said he's gonna be better than John Wall:
[QUOTE]He seemed like the best player in the country to me,
All Net
10-07-2010, 04:29 AM
How can you consider somebody a bust before the season has even started? hell you need to wait a few years to see that anyway.
ukballer
10-07-2010, 04:41 AM
Far too early to call something like that.
A more appropriate thought would be some slight concerns about his slow start, but at the same time realising exactly how many games (or not) he's played. Let him adjust, figure out his role in his new team. Not everyone is going to be like Tyreke Evans and make a sudden impact, even if you're a top 2 pick.
Da KO King
10-07-2010, 05:15 AM
Gringos, is that a tiered ranking or you just put up names as they came to you?
If it's tiered, I'll be repping you because I became a "tiered draft" convert a year ago, but I'll also need to hear why you have Avery Bradley as a tier 1 guy.
cavsfanatic
10-07-2010, 10:23 AM
Well Lebron played horrible in summer league and I think he turned out ok
Maniak
10-07-2010, 10:28 AM
Well Lebron played horrible in summer league and I think he turned out ok
Yeah hes average.
BankShot
10-07-2010, 11:05 AM
Yes it absolutely is. He hasn't even played a single NBA regular season game. End Thread. :rolleyes:
KareemCambell
10-07-2010, 11:14 AM
give him a a few games at least
Go Getter
10-07-2010, 11:15 AM
You know what gets me about your average basketball fan? They dont know sh*t, and they never seem to learn from their past mistakes.
How many threads, have been bumped over the years, where some of you, or others, have attempted to predict how a player will turn out, only to be miserably WRONG?
The fact is, some of you need to stop with this nonsense of predicting a players ability/career before the player has even had a concrete chance of getting out there, and ADJUSTING TO THE DAMN NBA LEVEL.
I mean jesus christ almighty, the kid has barely had a chance to get his feet wet....NOT ALL EARLY LOTTERY PICKS COME IN AND ARE INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL.
Thus is the nature of rookies. Some DO turn out to be busts, but mostly these players need time to develop, AND to adjust their game to the NBA level.
This isnt some random adjustment, where you just walk into some pickup game, and go on your merry way. College to the NBA is highly different.
Wait until at least a year or two of him playing horrible, to throw around that "bust" label. Christ, its like a broken record with that shit. :oldlol:
Co-sign.
The thread is written by a kid that is probably one of the worst evaluators of talent on the entire board.
Maniak
10-07-2010, 11:15 AM
give him a a few games at least
A few games at least? I'd say until the all-star break AT LEAST.
JellyBean
10-07-2010, 11:17 AM
Well Lebron played horrible in summer league and I think he turned out ok
That bum? He is alright :D But it is early to call Evan's a bust. Like I said before, I hope he figures it all out. The dude is too good to be playing like this.
KareemCambell
10-07-2010, 11:17 AM
A few games at least? I'd say until the all-star break AT LEAST.
thank you, hell some guys take a couple season to really start shinning, but he was a top pick and people expect these KIDS to just jump into the nba and start tearing it up.
not everyone is like that.
though wall and cousins looked sick last night
Bcogswell
10-07-2010, 11:17 AM
It is to early to call him a bust, but he should have never been picked at the 2nd overall spot. Hes going to be a good player, but nowhere close to the level of Cousins or Wall.
The_Yearning
10-07-2010, 11:24 AM
Kobe said he's gonna be better than John Wall:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=mc-afterthebuzzer031910
Kobe does not lie
Kobe also praised B-Roy. He just loves the unatheletic fundamental players.
Younggrease
10-07-2010, 01:03 PM
Kobe also praised B-Roy. He just loves the unatheletic fundamental players.
people forget how good Brandon Roy is...kind of like how people forgot about Pierce for a lil bit.
LA KB24
10-07-2010, 04:20 PM
I remember the "D-Rose is a bust" threads... :oldlol:
LA KB24
10-07-2010, 04:21 PM
Kobe also praised B-Roy. He just loves the unatheletic fundamental players.
How is Roy not athletic? Are you trolling?
His athleticism just doesn't show too much in his game cause he's just that smooth.
Ikill
10-07-2010, 04:34 PM
Kobe also praised B-Roy. He just loves the unatheletic fundamental players.
brandon roy is unathletic? dude has a 41 inch vertical
O.J A 6'4Mamba
10-07-2010, 07:39 PM
I Think I have been spoiled by watching OJ Mayo's talent. He has set the bar too high for young sgs of this generation and it is not fair to compare them to him. 95% of lottery picks are as NBA ready as he was and Evan Turner looks like he falls into the catergory and I really shouldn't use it against him.
From Mayo's 26 point performance against the Lakers in his rookie Summer League and the Dunk of the summer on Hilton Armstrong.
To his 7, 3 point made baskets in the preseason against Indiana, and then followed by dropping 28 points on Dwyane Wade in the Preseason.
To his back to back 30 point games his 6th and 7th game of his rookie year. Including 20 points in the first quarter one game, and 19 points in the fourth quarter other. Then preceeded to have the longest double figure streak of a perimeter player to open his career since Allen Iverson.
To his first 40 point game his 3rd game of his 2nd year.
Wow, I have been spoiled. :lol
Mama, there goes that 6'4 Mamba.
Maga_1
10-07-2010, 07:56 PM
Kobe also praised B-Roy. He just loves the unatheletic fundamental players.
:facepalm
OnceInADECADE
10-07-2010, 08:22 PM
I Think I have been spoiled by watching OJ Mayo's talent. He has set the bar too high for young sgs of this generation and it is not fair to compare them to him. 95% of lottery picks are as NBA ready as he was and Evan Turner looks like he falls into the catergory and I really shouldn't use it against him.
From Mayo's 26 point performance against the Lakers in his rookie Summer League and the Dunk of the summer on Hilton Armstrong.
To his 7, 3 point made baskets in the preseason against Indiana, and then followed by dropping 28 points on Dwyane Wade in the Preseason.
To his back to back 30 point games his 6th and 7th game of his rookie year. Including 20 points in the first quarter one game, and 19 points in the fourth quarter other. Then preceeded to have the longest double figure streak of a perimeter player to open his career since Allen Iverson.
To his first 40 point game his 3rd game of his 2nd year.
Wow, I have been spoiled. :lol
Mama, there goes that 6'4 Mamba.
I love your post Mamba :lol :lol
Posterize246
10-09-2010, 03:40 PM
bump just since he started today and played well...
39 mins
14 points (4-10)
6-6 FT
7 assists
6 rebounds
6 steals
1 block
2 turnovers
Stephen Graham nailed a 28 foot 3 pointer at the buzzer to win it 90-89 for NJ
Maga_1
10-09-2010, 05:21 PM
bump just since he started today and played well...
39 mins
14 points (4-10)
6-6 FT
7 assists
6 rebounds
6 steals
1 block
2 turnovers
Stephen Graham nailed a 28 foot 3 pointer at the buzzer to win it 90-89 for NJ
Pretty nice game
Anyone got video footage of Evan Turner this preseason? I've seen nothing.
This game's statline show that he has some nice balance to his game. I doubt he is a bust.
OnceInADECADE
10-09-2010, 07:26 PM
Evan Turner needs to develop a jump shot
Darius
10-09-2010, 07:58 PM
Obviously way too early.
Still he is the 2nd pick...
... If I was a Sixers fan I'd be concerned.
RapsLakers
10-09-2010, 08:11 PM
he hasnt been surprising so far in the off season but I could tell you that hes going to pick up his game when comes the regular season. so yeah its too early for you to call Evan Turner a bust
Styles p
10-09-2010, 08:28 PM
bump just since he started today and played well...
39 mins
14 points (4-10)
6-6 FT
7 assists
6 rebounds
6 steals
1 block
2 turnovers
Stephen Graham nailed a 28 foot 3 pointer at the buzzer to win it 90-89 for NJ
looks like he had a good game. and i see were still getting beat with buzzer beaters, it was probably scored on thad.
LA KB24
10-09-2010, 08:57 PM
Evan Turner needs to develop a jump shot
Oh he will, Philly has some great shooting coaches.
It depends entirely on his work ethic and how dedicated he is.
33teeth
10-09-2010, 08:58 PM
39 minutes? In preseason?
Boogaboog
02-01-2012, 01:47 PM
Where is this dude?
Pushxx
02-01-2012, 01:48 PM
Where is this dude?
Uhh with the same team that drafted him...
Boogaboog
02-01-2012, 01:50 PM
Uhh with the same team that drafted him...
I haven't heard anything about him in a while. Is he at least developing?
Pushxx
02-01-2012, 02:15 PM
I haven't heard anything about him in a while. Is he at least developing?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Evan+Turner+stats
PTB Fan
02-01-2012, 02:20 PM
What?
Evan Turner is a beast. He's seriously improved his game. He lacks the touches to score big and he won't get them in Philly because they play team ball like no other team does.
He's improved his game in all areas and has produced. Still one of the best if not the best rebounding guard in the league, among the most complete players in the league as well.
airchibundo507
02-01-2012, 02:20 PM
he'll blow up as soon as Iguodala is traded
rule1223
02-01-2012, 02:21 PM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Evan+Turner+stats
asked if developing... googles evan turner stats
Burgz
02-01-2012, 03:28 PM
hey OP speaking of a bust...
O.J A 6'4Mamba
02-01-2012, 05:05 PM
hey OP speaking of a bust...
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AifEgncCUDRltJyz2ss8_We8vLYF?slug=ap-nuggets-grizzlies
all he does is win.
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