Michael Jordan "the shrug" game

[KG5MVP]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlaL9OhZQoc

The day before that guy, people were comparing Jordan to Drexler, even though Jordan was better than Drexler in everyway, people could still say that Drexler had the better 3 point shot.

Jordan replied that he didn't choose to shoot the three. So in this game, Jordan chooses to shoot the three, and guess what? :confusedshrug:
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :rockon: :applause:

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug: I'M JUST LIKE MIKE

[TennesseeFan]

MJ.

[LastChanceToWin]

This is definitely the first time I have ever seen that video.

[MakeHistory78]

The half time report was interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbNdUXf73zE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZAytHttSn4&feature=related

[KG5MVP]

Seriously I think in terms of overall play MJ is better in 92 than in 91

[SinJackal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlaL9OhZQoc

The day before that guy, people were comparing Jordan to Drexler, even though Jordan was better than Drexler in everyway, people could still say that Drexler had the better 3 point shot.

Jordan replied that he didn't choose to shoot the three. So in this game, Jordan chooses to shoot the three, and guess what? :confusedshrug:
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :rockon: :applause:

Good video. That game was great for Bulls fans. Easily one of my fav' games ever.

[jstern]

Kind of motivational though. Reporters talking crap about Drexler being a better 3 pointer shooter, Michael responding that he chooses not to be a 3-pointer shooter, and then showing them what he’s capable of if he did choose to, and in the biggest stage setting an NBA finals record for 3 pointers. I didn't realized how many jumpers he took in that game also. It’s like such a winner at everything he wants to do. How can I emulate that.

Edit: I'm watching it right now, wow, that last 3 pointers to set break the NBA finals record for most points in half, so dramatic. I didn't realize that he broke that record with that 3 pointer. I was too young to remember.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Scored 35 points in the first half (an NBA Finals record) despite sitting out 7:00 in the half. With the way he was on fire, we would have easily been looking at a 42+ point half had he played even 4 of those 7 minutes.

[Ne 1]

After that lucky ''shrug game'' he went 0-4 from the 3-point line the next game. :lol

MJ stans bring up 1 game and act like it he was a great 3-point shooter. Jordan was a streaky three point shooter at best.

[indiefan24]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlaL9OhZQoc

The day before that guy, people were comparing Jordan to Drexler, even though Jordan was better than Drexler in everyway, people could still say that Drexler had the better 3 point shot.

Jordan replied that he didn't choose to shoot the three. So in this game, Jordan chooses to shoot the three, and guess what? :confusedshrug:
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :rockon: :applause:

Aww your other thread was deleted

[KG5MVP]

Anyone else think 91-92 MJ was his peak? In that season Jordan improved his shooting from his 90-91 season.

[Ne 1]

:oldlol: @ this pathetic MJ fan boy living in the past

[magnax1]

89 was his peak. Rebounded better then ever, scored as well as ever, and passed as well as ever. No reason to say Jordan was better any year from 91-93 other then he won.

[Biddy77]

Wow... I haven't watched that in awhile.

I saw that game live, and was already a rabid basketball fan before that season. That was the Blazers' second consecutive trip to the Finals, and I remember the talk at that time being predominantly along the lines of, "I wish we won it last year", because we felt like we had no chance in hell of beating the Bulls-- and at this point, the Bulls had yet to win it all.

This, despite the fact that we had Clyde Drexler. Now... Drexler was a STUD in his own right. He was a beast on the break (whether he had the ball, or was filling a lane), was an awesome rebounder, he was a very adept passer and had excellent court vision (despite dribbling with his head down, it was common knowledge that he saw the floor very well). In the half court, he was one of the best slashers in the league, and he had a very long and quick first step, as well as the ability to leave the floor, and adjust his body in the air to make a shot.

When we played against anyone else-- and I mean Magic, Bird, Malone, Barkley, Olajuwon, etc-- we felt that having Drexler gave us pretty equal footing. When we looked at Jordan as a comparison, the picture changed. All of the sudden, Drexler's streaky jump shot, right hand dominance, and lack of a half court go-to move were glaring weaknesses.


It was basically that way for the entire NBA. Jordan didn't just dominate the league. He WAS the league. There was no arguing that he was the best player on the floor every night. There was no, "1/2 Jordan/Bird" when discussions of who the top guys were came up. Everyone else-- including some of the greatest players of all time-- were competing for second best.


It was an absolute priviledge to see Jordan play-- even when my team was getting crushed by him.

[OldSchoolBBall]

89 was his peak. Rebounded better then ever, scored as well as ever, and passed as well as ever. No reason to say Jordan was better any year from 91-93 other then he won.

Jordan was a better (read: more effective) player in '90 and '91 than he was in '89. His numbers that year were more due to him being placed in a ball dominant PG role for the final 25-30 games of the season. He could have easily matched and exceeded those numbers in '90 or '91 if placed in that same role for an entire season.

[magnax1]

Jordan was a better (read: more effective) player in '90 and '91 than he was in '89. His numbers that year were more due to him being placed in a ball dominant PG role for the final 25-30 games of the season. He could have easily matched and exceeded those numbers in '90 or '91 if placed in that same role for an entire season.
I wasn't really talking about the #s. He might've been better in 88 or 90, but I'm definitely not buying 91-93 being his best years. He might've been more effective, but only because he had a system around him that actually worked effectively. Either way, he was pretty much the same player from 88-90.

[KG5MVP]

I wasn't really talking about the #s. He might've been better in 88 or 90, but I'm definitely not buying 91-93 being his best years. He might've been more effective, but only because he had a system around him that actually worked effectively. Either way, he was pretty much the same player from 88-90.

which year do you think Jordan had the best jumpshot?

[magnax1]

which year do you think Jordan had the best jumpshot?
96 or 93.

[Biddy77]

which year do you think Jordan had the best jumpshot?

This question is a trap.

Jordan came into the league with a very good midrange jumper. His range wasn't extremely long early in his career, but his mechanics were already very tight, and he was very reliable out to about 15 feet even as a rookie.

[magnax1]

True, every year after 87 or so he was pretty much automatic if he had enough room for his jumper.

[KG5MVP]

True, every year after 87 or so he was pretty much automatic if he had enough room for his jumper.

On NBA 2k11, it shows MJ's midrange shot stat like this:

89-90: 87
09-91: 87
91-92: 91
95-96: 96
96-97: 96
97-98: 96

[magnax1]

On NBA 2k11, it shows MJ's midrange shot stat like this:

89-90: 87
09-91: 87
91-92: 91
95-96: 96
96-97: 96
97-98: 96
Lol, well idk, but like I said, he was pretty much automatic almost every year if he got enough space. The best part about his midrange is that he was so great at creating space. He probably actually dropped off a bit after 97 because he didn't get up quite as high.

[Showtime]

People seem to think that just because MJ didn't settle for the 3 means he couldn't shoot it.

[Geezer]

Jordan was the best basketball player ever, but he was also by far the best MARKETED basketball player ever. I think the fact that Nike and the NBA collaborated to use him as their sole promotional tool in the 90s made him even more "Godlike" in public eyes than he really should have been.

Best ever? Yes.

Worthy of the absolute chronic dick sucking he gets on a regular basis? Not so much.

[Biddy77]

Jordan was the best basketball player ever, but he was also by far the best MARKETED basketball player ever. I think the fact that Nike and the NBA collaborated to use him as their sole promotional tool in the 90s made him even more "Godlike" in public eyes than he really should have been.

Best ever? Yes.

Worthy of the absolute chronic dick sucking he gets on a regular basis? Not so much.

More than he should have been?

Buddy... he dominated the league badly for more than a decade, and won 6 rings. The NBA didn't make Larry Bird say, "Michael Jordan is God in basketball shoes" in '86, ad executives didn't generate his statistics, and endorsements didn't make the Bulls break the 70 win barrier.

You're absolutely right that he remains the most marketed player in NBA history. The fact that he really WAS that much better than everyone else-- including Bird and Magic in their primes-- was a big part of WHY he was so heavily marketed.

[magnax1]

More than he should have been?

Buddy... he dominated the league badly for more than a decade, and won 6 rings. The NBA didn't make Larry Bird say, "Michael Jordan is God in basketball shoes" in '86, ad executives didn't generate his statistics, and endorsements didn't make the Bulls break the 70 win barrier.

You're absolutely right that he remains the most marketed player in NBA history. The fact that he really WAS that much better than everyone else-- including Bird and Magic in their primes-- was a big part of WHY he was so heavily marketed.
:applause:
I'd rep you, but It says I have to spread some around before I can rep you again.

[Ne 1]

Sorry but Jordan is not the best ever unless popularity and marketing is part of your criteria.

[Geezer]

More than he should have been?

Buddy... he dominated the league badly for more than a decade, and won 6 rings. The NBA didn't make Larry Bird say, "Michael Jordan is God in basketball shoes" in '86, ad executives didn't generate his statistics, and endorsements didn't make the Bulls break the 70 win barrier.

You're absolutely right that he remains the most marketed player in NBA history. The fact that he really WAS that much better than everyone else-- including Bird and Magic in their primes-- was a big part of WHY he was so heavily marketed.

Oh I agree for the most part, but people have to remember that when he faced both Bird and Magic their careers were on the down side (Bird because of his back, Magic because of the HIV issue), whereafter he dominated a lot of watered down teams due to expansion that happened in the 90s (Heat and Hornets, later on Grizzlies and Raptors, etc.) and faced teams that never really had more than 1 Hall of Fame-calibre player.

(Knicks with Ewing [most overrated "Superstar" ever] and a bunch of role players, same with Atlanta and Wilkins, Young Shaq was still learning the game and growing his skills... really the East in the 90s was a very weak conference.) :confusedshrug:

I love Jordan, I just think that some of the things he did people talk about so much more because the marketing of the entire league revolved around one single player rather than the semi-parity we have now (Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Howard, Durant, the Celtics as a whole, etc.)

Great player, great marketing is all I am saying :pimp:

[Biddy77]

:applause:
I'd rep you, but It says I have to spread some around before I can rep you again.

Thanks, sir. :)


re: Jordan's jump shot statistics in NBA2k or whatever--

Jordan attacked the basket a lot early in his career. It wasn't until he had been in the league for awhile that watching him turned into 'Groundhog's Day', and people really took note of how cold he was. That midrange 'J' was money right out of the gate. A big part of WHY it was so cold was the consistency of it. Dean Smith's staff rebuilt his stroke when he was a freshman at UNC, and he still shoots the same way to this day. His stroke was the same whether he shot a pull up, a turnaround, a '3', or a free throw. Check the rookie year FT% for fun.

[SourPatchKids]

" My threes felt like free throws"

[Biddy77]

Geezer,

It is a very popular misconception that Jordan didn't play against other guys while they were in their primes, but he came into the league in 1984, and dominated right out of the gate.

To see the level of players he actually played against in their primes, you don't even have to look hard. Just check the draft classes from '79 on, and realize how young those guys actually were when Jordan came into the league in '84.

Among the guys he *did* play against in their primes--

Bird, Magic, Isaiah, David Robinson, Hakeem, Stockton & Malone, Barkley, Drexler, Dominique, etc. The league was LOADED when Jordan was playing.

[SinJackal]

On NBA 2k11, it shows MJ's midrange shot stat like this:

89-90: 87
09-91: 87
91-92: 91
95-96: 96
96-97: 96
97-98: 96

They were just trying to make him balanced. Clearly that didn't actually work though. Dude's way overpowered (but I guess that's accurate) in that game.

Jordan's jumper pretty much from 87-98 was money. His range got a little better in the late 80's, and was legit as a 3pt shooter as early as '89.



After that lucky ''shrug game'' he went 0-4 from the 3-point line the next game. :lol

MJ stans bring up 1 game and act like it he was a great 3-point shooter. Jordan was a streaky three point shooter at best.

Jordan shot 37.1% from three from '89-'97. 37% over the eight year span he decided to shoot threes more than once every other game or once a game, doesn't sound "streaky" to me. It's excellent even for today's standards. So gtfo with your bullshit. Another worthless opinion, devoid of logic, that's debunked by facts again.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Jordan was probably the best midrange shooter in the league by 1990. Definitely by 1991, when Sports Illustrated said of Jordan that he was "the best shooter in the league - Bird may have an edge from deep, but from 21 feet and in, there's no one better."

There's like 3 players in the league today who have a comparable midrange shot to even 1989 Jordan imo (Kobe/Dirk/Nash). Forget about '92 or '93 MJ.

[heyhey]

Clyde Drexler: "we (Jordan and Clyde) are equal in every category tho some say I'm a better three point shooter."
:roll: :roll:

:roll:

:facepalm was that how Jordan was perceived back then? that people thought Drexler was even in his realm? unbelievable.

[Manute for Ever!]

Sorry but Jordan is not the best ever unless popularity and marketing is part of your criteria.

So in your opinion, who is the best ever? 90% chance he says a laker, 50% chance it's Kobe

[KG5MVP]

So in your opinion, who is the best ever? 90% chance he says a laker, 50% chance it's Kobe

Just ignore him. he's legally retarded.

I've never seen MJ play, and I only started watching NBA few years ago. So there's no popularity and marketing to influence me, and I still know that MJ is by far the GOAT, if not the greatest athlete of all time.

[Svendiggity]

So in your opinion, who is the best ever? 90% chance he says a laker, 50% chance it's Kobe

Personally I think Kareem makes a better case than people give him credit for. I'm too young to know much about the era, but as a student of the game I've watched many old tapes of the showtime Lakers. He was killing it even in his late 30's.

[KG5MVP]

Personally I think Kareem makes a better case than people give him credit for. I'm too young to know much about the era, but as a student of the game I've watched many old tapes of the showtime Lakers. He was killing it even in his late 30's.

Kareem put up awesome stats, but he could never take it to the next level in the playoffs. The 70s was a weak era, and Kareem could only win 1 ring even with good teammates.

[Geezer]

Geezer,

It is a very popular misconception that Jordan didn't play against other guys while they were in their primes, but he came into the league in 1984, and dominated right out of the gate.

To see the level of players he actually played against in their primes, you don't even have to look hard. Just check the draft classes from '79 on, and realize how young those guys actually were when Jordan came into the league in '84.

Among the guys he *did* play against in their primes--

Bird, Magic, Isaiah, David Robinson, Hakeem, Stockton & Malone, Barkley, Drexler, Dominique, etc. The league was LOADED when Jordan was playing.

Yeah, but bear in mind that all of those guys were single stars on their teams, not multiple Hall of Famers like most people make out, barring the 86 Celtics where Jordan went off... yet they still lost (and yes, I know he had a shitty supporting cast). It took the addition of Pippen before they really started dominating teams, plus a couple of years for Jordan to buy into the team concept, before which he was pretty much a very high volume scorer and a ball hog (albeit an amazing one) :cheers:

[Geezer]

And yes, putting Drexler in the same category as Jordan was laughable :lol:

[Svendiggity]

Kareem put up awesome stats, but he could never take it to the next level in the playoffs. The 70s was a weak era, and Kareem could only win 1 ring even with good teammates.

okay.

[Ne 1]

:oldlol: Typical Jordan fan boys


http://chzderp.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/9aa5e54f-4a52-4fe3-811a-99845446727a.jpg

[KG5MVP]

:oldlol: Typical Jordan fan boys


http://chzderp.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/9aa5e54f-4a52-4fe3-811a-99845446727a.jpg

Are you KobeKlutch?

[Manute for Ever!]

Personally I think Kareem makes a better case than people give him credit for. I'm too young to know much about the era, but as a student of the game I've watched many old tapes of the showtime Lakers. He was killing it even in his late 30's.

I've got no problem with people having differing opinions on the matter, was curious of what his was.

[StarJordan]

Most surreal thing I've ever seen...this apart from John Paxon winning the NBA Finals with a 3 point bomb in '93....I remember this '92 game 1 even now like it was yesterday. I had biology finals next day....but each shot jordan would hit was so amazing, i said screw the biology finals and watched the nba finals instead

[necya]

Most surreal thing I've ever seen...this apart from John Paxon winning the NBA Finals with a 3 point bomb in '93....I remember this '92 game 1 even now like it was yesterday. I had biology finals next day....but each shot jordan would hit was so amazing, i said screw the biology finals and watched the nba finals instead

you made the right choice buddy !

[Fatal9]

lol @ OP becoming a Jordan fanboy because of 2k11.

Anyways, to really appreciate the crazy run Jordan had, you should watch the actual game. He poured on buckets back to back to back. It's as unstoppable as I've ever seen a player look. So many momentum plays one after the other. Like starjordan said, it's almost surreal.

[DuMa]

it was kinda like the 91 finals where he had like 13 straight buckets in game 2 vs the lakers.

[JohnnySic]

To this day this remains perhaps the sickest individual performance I've ever seen...it truly was surreal.

And yeah, the MJ/Drexler comparisons were runing thick before these Finals. No one ever compared Drexler to MJ again after this game, MJ killed the comparisons dead. :oldlol: And Drexler himeslf was never really the same after this.

[miamiandorlando]

he makes it look so easy

[CeltsGarlic]

After that lucky ''shrug game'' he went 0-4 from the 3-point line the next game. :lol

MJ stans bring up 1 game and act like it he was a great 3-point shooter. Jordan was a streaky three point shooter at best.


Lol at almost everybody "missing" this.(comment and fact)

[delmar]

BE LIKE MIKE !!!!:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[tontoz]

Wow... I haven't watched that in awhile.

I saw that game live, and was already a rabid basketball fan before that season. That was the Blazers' second consecutive trip to the Finals, and I remember the talk at that time being predominantly along the lines of, "I wish we won it last year", because we felt like we had no chance in hell of beating the Bulls-- and at this point, the Bulls had yet to win it all.

This, despite the fact that we had Clyde Drexler. Now... Drexler was a STUD in his own right. He was a beast on the break (whether he had the ball, or was filling a lane), was an awesome rebounder, he was a very adept passer and had excellent court vision (despite dribbling with his head down, it was common knowledge that he saw the floor very well). In the half court, he was one of the best slashers in the league, and he had a very long and quick first step, as well as the ability to leave the floor, and adjust his body in the air to make a shot.

When we played against anyone else-- and I mean Magic, Bird, Malone, Barkley, Olajuwon, etc-- we felt that having Drexler gave us pretty equal footing. When we looked at Jordan as a comparison, the picture changed. All of the sudden, Drexler's streaky jump shot, right hand dominance, and lack of a half court go-to move were glaring weaknesses.


It was basically that way for the entire NBA. Jordan didn't just dominate the league. He WAS the league. There was no arguing that he was the best player on the floor every night. There was no, "1/2 Jordan/Bird" when discussions of who the top guys were came up. Everyone else-- including some of the greatest players of all time-- were competing for second best.


It was an absolute priviledge to see Jordan play-- even when my team was getting crushed by him.

I was watching that game live too. I have never seen a scene like that in the first half of a game. The crowd was going nuts.

It should be noted though that the Blazers were very close to taking that series to 7 games. They had a big lead late in game 6 when Phil put Jordan on the bench and the bench players led a comeback. Then Jordan came in and finished it off.

I have to think that Portland let up a bit with what i believe was a 15 point lead with Jordan out of the game. Who knows what would have happened in game 7 at Portland.

[Biddy77]

Lol at almost everybody "missing" this.(comment and fact)

His performance the following game was true. The subsequent comment was *not* true. Jordan wasn't really a streaky 3point shooter.

One of the things that many people have never recognized about Jordan's dominance is that so much of it came from listening to what every coach a player ever has tells them-- work on parts of your game that you're going to use in games. Jordan prepared this way. When he went into a season knowing that he would be shooting more '3's, he worked at it, and made the shot a weapon. When he was emphasizing other aspects of his game, he worked on those things, and neglected 3pointers.

All it takes to fact check this is to look at the relationship between his percentages and his attempts per game, and to understand that the attempts did not go up because the percentages were up. The percentages were up because Jordan planned ahead, and worked on shots he knew he would be taking a lot in games.

You'll notice that there was a spike in his percentages from age 29 to 33. During that time, Jordan worked at the shot more than he had earlier, in an effort to keep himself effective and efficient as he aged. Going into the '97-'98 season, Jordan rededicated himself to getting closer looks, and getting to the line more. As a result... 3PA went down, 3% went down, and his FTA went up by almost 2/game.

[Geezer]

His performance the following game was true. The subsequent comment was *not* true. Jordan wasn't really a streaky 3point shooter.

One of the things that many people have never recognized about Jordan's dominance is that so much of it came from listening to what every coach a player ever has tells them-- work on parts of your game that you're going to use in games. Jordan prepared this way. When he went into a season knowing that he would be shooting more '3's, he worked at it, and made the shot a weapon. When he was emphasizing other aspects of his game, he worked on those things, and neglected 3pointers.

All it takes to fact check this is to look at the relationship between his percentages and his attempts per game, and to understand that the attempts did not go up because the percentages were up. The percentages were up because Jordan planned ahead, and worked on shots he knew he would be taking a lot in games.

You'll notice that there was a spike in his percentages from age 29 to 33. During that time, Jordan worked at the shot more than he had earlier, in an effort to keep himself effective and efficient as he aged. Going into the '97-'98 season, Jordan rededicated himself to getting closer looks, and getting to the line more. As a result... 3PA went down, 3% went down, and his FTA went up by almost 2/game.

Plus don't forget that the NBA shortened the 3 point line by 3 feet during the 95-96 season (for whatever reason), a lot of conspiracy theorists say it was to help Jordan score more :lol

[Biddy77]

Correct, Geez.

Without the change in line distance, he likely would have had about 2.9-3.0 attempts per game, and made them at about 38%. The difference of 3 feet put that guy waaaaayyyy into his comfort zone.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Plus don't forget that the NBA shortened the 3 point line by 3 feet during the 95-96 season (for whatever reason), a lot of conspiracy theorists say it was to help Jordan score more :lol

It's funny they say that considering it was shortened during the '94-'95 season (NOT the '95-'96 season), with the decision to do so being made a full 8-9 months before MJ returned. But I'm sure it was all a smokescreen, with Stern doing it because somehow he just KNEW that MJ would return 8+ months later and it would "help him." What a joke. :oldlol:

[che guevara]

His performance the following game was true. The subsequent comment was *not* true. Jordan wasn't really a streaky 3point shooter.

One of the things that many people have never recognized about Jordan's dominance is that so much of it came from listening to what every coach a player ever has tells them-- work on parts of your game that you're going to use in games. Jordan prepared this way. When he went into a season knowing that he would be shooting more '3's, he worked at it, and made the shot a weapon. When he was emphasizing other aspects of his game, he worked on those things, and neglected 3pointers.

All it takes to fact check this is to look at the relationship between his percentages and his attempts per game, and to understand that the attempts did not go up because the percentages were up. The percentages were up because Jordan planned ahead, and worked on shots he knew he would be taking a lot in games.

You'll notice that there was a spike in his percentages from age 29 to 33. During that time, Jordan worked at the shot more than he had earlier, in an effort to keep himself effective and efficient as he aged. Going into the '97-'98 season, Jordan rededicated himself to getting closer looks, and getting to the line more. As a result... 3PA went down, 3% went down, and his FTA went up by almost 2/game.
Jordan went away from the 3 pointer in 1998 because he tore a ligament in his ring finger and cracked a knuckle on another finger. He had to change his shooting form because of this, which took away his ability to shoot threes. He shot under 70% on FTs for the first month of the season, which is how you know there is a legitimate issue.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Jordan went away from the 3 pointer in 1998 because he tore a ligament in his ring finger and cracked a knuckle on another finger. He had to change his shooting form because of this, which took away his ability to shoot threes. He shot under 70% on FTs for the first month of the season, which is how you know there are a legitimate issue.

Yup, he cracked a knuckle and tore a ligament in the index finger of his shooting hand late in preseason, and spent the first few weeks of the regular season learning how to play with it by adjusting his form and compensating. He shot 68% FT/41% FG for the first 15 games or so and 83% FT/48.5% FG for the remaining games of the season after he adjusted. When MJ is shooting 68% from the line, you know something is wrong.

[D12"Magic"]

ignore this offtopic, testing something out.
http://rapidcow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Epic-Fail-poster1.jpg

[Biddy77]

The notes about the injury are correct, but the rededication to getting closer looks is also accurate.

It has been a very long time, so I can't cite a source, but he vocalized that he felt like he had become too content to settle for the '3', and wanted to get back to looking for higher % shots at that time.

Even after he dealt with the injury, his 3PA and FTA reflect this.

[Geezer]

It's funny they say that considering it was shortened during the '94-'95 season (NOT the '95-'96 season), with the decision to do so being made a full 8-9 months before MJ returned. But I'm sure it was all a smokescreen, with Stern doing it because somehow he just KNEW that MJ would return 8+ months later and it would "help him." What a joke. :oldlol:

Probably the same people who think the Ewing draft lottery was rigged :roll:

[Biddy77]

Gotta love NBA conspiracy theories...

While it's undeniable that Jordan was a lot more comfortable with the closer 3pt line, imagine what that felt like to guys who were actually true 3point gunners... ugh. Legler and Kerr both made them at better than 50%, and some of the volume gunners (George "What's a '2'?" McCloud, 3D, etc) seemed like they got early tickets to heaven.

While McCloud obviously lead the league in 3PA that year, I want to say his pace actually trailed off late in the season. I could be mistaken on this, but I seem to recall his early season rate of putting them up was on pace to absolutely obliterate the record number of attempts in a season. IIRC, it was something of a joke at the time.

[raptorfan_dr07]

Jordan shot 37.1% from three from '89-'97. 37% over the eight year span he decided to shoot threes more than once every other game or once a game, doesn't sound "streaky" to me. It's excellent even for today's standards. So gtfo with your bullshit. Another worthless opinion, devoid of logic, that's debunked by facts again.

He(Ne1, Alphawolf, Soopa, Desperado, etc) just says that because he can't comprehend why wing players from previous eras(Jordan especially) shot a much higher FG% than his boyfriend Kobe. It can't be because they were SMARTER players who took SMART shots. It can't be because Kobe is a STUPID player who takes STUPID shots. These guys were good from 3pt range, they just didn't take many since it's a low percentage shot to begin with. Like I always say, if a player is going to shoot a bunch of threes, they're doing the defense a favor.


So in your opinion, who is the best ever? 90% chance he says a laker, 50% chance it's Kobe

I've seen him say names like Kareem and Russell, who DO have LEGIT cases, but not because he actually believes it. He only downplays MJ because he's trying to put Kobe closer to his level. Most rational, intelligent basketball fans know the gap between them is quite gigantic. Kobe is vastly inferior to Jordan in every size, shape, and form.

[Ne 1]

http://ko8e.blogspot.com/2009/09/zone-era.html

Clearly stats from the 80s and 90s - both PPG+FG%- are inflated, due to faster run-and-gun pace (think 2005 Suns, 2007 Warriors), inferior defense, and inferior players.

[StarJordan]

Actually the whole 92 playoffs was something else....still remember the New York series....game 7....mike grabbing scottie from the back and then Jordan and Xavier Mcdaniel going at it head to head.....classic.... Then Cavs series had some good moments too....then game 1 of the finals breaking the record...then the epic game 6 comeback to win the championship at chicago stadium.......MJ and all jumping on top of the scorers table....crowd refusing to leave

[KG5MVP]

lol @ OP becoming a Jordan fanboy because of 2k11.

Anyways, to really appreciate the crazy run Jordan had, you should watch the actual game. He poured on buckets back to back to back. It's as unstoppable as I've ever seen a player look. So many momentum plays one after the other. Like starjordan said, it's almost surreal.

I was a MJ fan long before 2k11 came out. 2k11 just revived my interest in him.

[Samurai Swoosh]

Scored 35 points in the first half (an NBA Finals record) despite sitting out 7:00 in the half. With the way he was on fire, we would have easily been looking at a 42+ point half had he played even 4 of those 7 minutes.
I know ... that is ridiculously ill. My all time favorite FINALS performance. Imagine if the game was close, he played that full half, and then got minutes and had to go full bore in the 2nd half.

:facepalm

[Sarcastic]

Rick Adelman looked so young in that video.

[KG5MVP]

Rick Adelman looked so young in that video.

He looked alot like Hitler

[StarJordan]

He looked alot like Hitler

haha true

[oh the horror]

:oldlol: Typical Jordan fan boys


http://chzderp.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/9aa5e54f-4a52-4fe3-811a-99845446727a.jpg



Im sorry but this picture had me cracking up.

[Mr Clutch Melo]

Probably the same people who think the Ewing draft lottery was rigged :roll:

That draft was rigged, no doubt.

[oh the horror]

That Space Jam picture up there still has me fu*king busting up over here.

[Gotterdammerung]

I remember the shrug game all too well. :facepalm

The previous year I had started watching the NBA seriously. So I was hyped for the Blazers-Bulls collision in the Finals. They were supposed to meet in 1990, but the Pistons got in the way, and in 1991, the Lakers got in the way. So this match-up was somewhat 2 years overdue.

I had to go to an awards ceremony, so I asked my little sister to watch the game for me, and make sure the VCR recorded the game. By the time we got to the auditorium, after bugging my dad for the score on the radio, it said the Bulls were ahead by 18 points. So i couldn't really focus during the show, and once we got back, the look on my little sister's face said it all.

"Michael Jordan broke some record." :wtf: I rewinded the tape to learn what absolute greatness was, and how far away Jordan was from Drexler. :hammerhead:

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Wow... I haven't watched that in awhile.

I saw that game live, and was already a rabid basketball fan before that season. That was the Blazers' second consecutive trip to the Finals, and I remember the talk at that time being predominantly along the lines of, "I wish we won it last year", because we felt like we had no chance in hell of beating the Bulls-- and at this point, the Bulls had yet to win it all.

I watched it live to. BTW, the Lakers were in the finals in 1991, so it wasn't the Blazer's second consecutive trip to the Finals...

[MakeHistory78]

Jordan was so dominant and many people after his 2nd championship considered him the greatest ever even if he was only 29.And that's because of his greatness.
The best quote was from Drexler.
"I used to think MJ had 2000 moves. I was wrong - he has 3000."Clyde Drexler on Michael Jordan after 1992 NBA Finals

[Birmingham1955]

Jordan was so dominant and many people after his 2nd championship considered him the greatest ever even if he was only 29.And that's because of his greatness.
The best quote was from Drexler.
"I used to think MJ had 2000 moves. I was wrong - he has 3000."Clyde Drexler on Michael Jordan after 1992 NBA Finals

There will never be another MJ

[Biddy77]

I watched it live to. BTW, the Lakers were in the finals in 1991, so it wasn't the Blazer's second consecutive trip to the Finals...

Correct, of course.

I always misremember the sequence from '90 to '92, and mash the Blazers' two trips to the Finals into back-to-back runs.

[Calabis]

Jordan was so dominant and many people after his 2nd championship considered him the greatest ever even if he was only 29.And that's because of his greatness.
The best quote was from Drexler.
"I used to think MJ had 2000 moves. I was wrong - he has 3000."Clyde Drexler on Michael Jordan after 1992 NBA Finals

Clyde Drexler after a game in the 1986-87 season

ON A BLUSTERY NIGHT IN CHICAGO when Michael Jordan hits the Portland Trail Blazers with a 53-point avalanche, reporters gather around Clyde Drexler to catch his drift. And the Glide of Portland isn't shoveling bull about this Bull.

"What happened in the fourth quarter?" Someone asks.

"They started to execute their offense. In other words, Michael took over."

"Just how good is Michael?"

"MVP. He's got my vote."

OK. But what about Larry and Magic?

"If Michael had the same supporting cast as Larry Bird and Magic Johnson, he would win as often as they do. If your talking who's most valuable to his team, it's Michael."