Andre Iguodala is weak

[GOBB]

I cant wait for the trading deadline in hopes some team out there who loves his talent, all around game, good guy behavior comes calling. Take him. He is nothing more than a fantasy basketball player. I doubt he would win MVP in the WNBA. Heck he probably would be scared to attack the basket in that league because he sure is a putty cat in the NBA. 1-3 from the FT line and 2 of the Fts came on a fast break where Wall fouled him from behind. Game went into OT and all you can muster is 3 FT attempts?

Who neutered this guy? Whoever did needs to be tasered unconscious. This dude has no balls. And when he is taking the last shot (if he isnt too scared too) the guy sucks. In the Wizards game he shot a f*cking rainbow that traveled up to the nose bleed seats then came down and bricked off the rim. Keep in mind he shot it at the elbow of the FT line. Why? Who shoots like that? Little friggin kids do. Not professional basketball players.

I'm done with Iguodala. I dont care if tomorrow he drops 33pts 15rbs 12ast 56stls 4blks and no turnovers. I bet he didnt go to the FT line more than 5 times. And I bet he still has a mangyna. I rarely use the words sucks and Iggy SUCKS! Get him out of Philadelphia. Iggy is a nut ass dude. :facepalm

[heyhey]

dude's straight garbage. got ego like he's lebron james plays like he's gloria.
Selfish and is hurting the development of Thaddeus Young and Evan turner.

Trade his sorry Goofy looking @ss. Rebuild around Jru, Thad, Evan, Speights. those nikkas got swag to go for days.

[BankShot]

I cant wait for the trading deadline in hopes some team out there who loves his talent, all around game, good guy behavior comes calling. Take him. He is nothing more than a fantasy basketball player. I doubt he would win MVP in the WNBA. Heck he probably would be scared to attack the basket in that league because he sure is a putty cat in the NBA. 1-3 from the FT line and 2 of the Fts came on a fast break where Wall fouled him from behind. Game went into OT and all you can muster is 3 FT attempts?

Who neutered this guy? Whoever did needs to be tasered unconscious. This dude has no balls. And when he is taking the last shot (if he isnt too scared too) the guy sucks. In the Wizards game he shot a f*cking rainbow that traveled up to the nose bleed seats then came down and bricked off the rim. Keep in mind he shot it at the elbow of the FT line. Why? Who shoots like that? Little friggin kids do. Not professional basketball players.

I'm done with Iguodala. I dont care if tomorrow he drops 33pts 15rbs 12ast 56stls 4blks and no turnovers. I bet he didnt go to the FT line more than 5 times. And I bet he still has a mangyna. I rarely use the words sucks and Iggy SUCKS! Get him out of Philadelphia. Iggy is a nut ass dude. :facepalm

Get him on a squad where he can be a 3rd option on offense, play good defense, rebound, and hustle. Yeah his current contract overpays him for those duties, but thats where he would most flourish.

[Clocian-IGN]

still dont want deng?

[opps]

I've been posting this in a lot of threads but what yall think about this

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=29gpecn

[Stuckey]

still dont want deng?

deng >>>>>>>> iguodala

may be spurs can trade jefferson for him

[Batz]

It's crazy how he hasn't progressed in years. Just slowly become crappier and crappier. I don't get this guy. Solid handles, very good all around defense, crazy athletic, clutch as ****, 6'6 210 lbs, solid midrange game, high iq, impressive passer, can run, can rebound, great dunker and so on. All these characteristic usually = GOAT potential type player or atleast a dominant perimeter mother****er, but this guy has underachieved so much.

I've had so much hopes for this guy. What a disappointment so far...

[PHILA]

Brickodala's value may decrease as the deadline nears. But what do I know. Good luck Rod Thorn. :applause:

[BankShot]

I've been posting this in a lot of threads but what yall think about this

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=29gpecn

Denver trades Chauncey/Afflalo/Melo for Jameer/Iggy/Kapono

:roll: :roll:

[BankShot]

It's crazy how he hasn't progressed in years. Just slowly become crappier and crappier. I don't get this guy. Solid handles, very good all around defense, crazy athletic, clutch as ****, 6'6 210 lbs, solid midrange game, high iq, impressive passer, can run, can rebound, great dunker and so on. All these characteristic usually = GOAT potential type player or atleast a dominant perimeter mother****er, but this guy has underachieved so much.

I've had so much hopes for this guy. What a disappointment so far...

Simply put he's just not a #1-type player in the NBA. Like i said earlier, his talents, skills, and mentality just don't lend itself to being the star of a team.... and the team suffers

[Batz]

Simply put he's just not a #1-type player in the NBA. Like i said earlier, his talents, skills, and mentality just don't lend itself to being the star of a team.... and the team suffers
His talent, skills and somewhat mentality is is all there. His motivation though is like on mars or some shit. I watch this guy and he just walks around with little to no interest. Demand the ball dammit and make a play for yourself already!!

[Styles p]

trade everyone not named jrue,evan,lou. this team is disgusting, i wanna throw up watching them. watch them in the half court no one moves. they all stand there and don't try to get open, then they settle for a contested jumper or make a horrible pass/turnover. then having no big man makes us always double team leaving someone wide open for 3.

[Geezer]

I don't think anyone expected him to be a franchise player, just because the idiot owners hand out ridiculous contracts it isn't the player's fault for accepting it.

As stated above he would be a great third option on a contending team, no more than that though.

[Geezer]

Oh plus Thaddeus Young is one of the most underrated players in the league, he deserves way more burn than he is currently getting...

[Styles p]

Oh plus Thaddeus Young is one of the most underrated players in the league, he deserves way more burn than he is currently getting...

yeah maybe when he starts defending and finds a position to be good at.

[PullupJay]

Honestly, Iggy has the potential to be just as good as lebron. He can do it all. I don't know what's up with him. He is freakishly athletic,has a more then decent shot,good defense, good passer<etc.... idgi:confusedshrug:

[Rose]

I think if he got traded to a good team, he'd play better, but he knows the 76ers aren't going anywhere so he really doesn't give a shit.

[Styles p]

I think if he got traded to a good team, he'd play better, but he knows the 76ers aren't going anywhere so he really doesn't give a shit.

which is exactly why he is weak. this is labeled his team, he claims its his team and acts like he is good enough to lead a team. but yet he doesn't care. he can go into attack mode at anytime. he had a really athletic slam tonight which he can do at anytime yet he decides to stand there and jack up a contested shot. hes 27 he is what he is, the sixers are not gonna win anything with him as was proved the last couple seasons. the sooner we get rid of him the better.

[ckwong1368]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[catch24]

Let'em know GOBB.

[LosBulls]

which is exactly why he is weak. this is labeled his team, he claims its his team and acts like he is good enough to lead a team. but yet he doesn't care. he can go into attack mode at anytime. he had a really athletic slam tonight which he can do at anytime yet he decides to stand there and jack up a contested shot. hes 27 he is what he is, the sixers are not gonna win anything with him as was proved the last seasons. the sooner we get rid of him the better.

I think one of the reasons he doesn't give a shit is because of boring-ass idiot homo cornball fans like you who prefer to sit on their asses and talk about how much he sucks on the internet instead of going to the game and supporting him.

[Styles p]

I think one of the reasons he doesn't give a shit is because of boring-ass idiot homo cornball fans like you who prefer to sit on their asses and talk about how much he sucks on the internet instead of going to the game and supporting him.

oh right because you know how many games i have attended.

[G-train]

Iggy for... um, er, cant think of a fair trade.

[Rekindled]

Honestly, Iggy has the potential to be just as good as lebron. He can do it all. I don't know what's up with him. He is freakishly athletic,has a more then decent shot,good defense, good passer<etc.... idgi:confusedshrug:

Carter has the potential to be better than Jordan
Marbury has the potential to be better than Isiah

it's more about what's in your head.

[SinJackal]

Bulls would gladly take him off your guys' hands in exchange for Deng. Though Deng's not any better to build around, he'd try hard all the time. They're both dudes you add to teams that already have a star or two.

Iguodala just isn't a star himself. He's a sidekick. . .arguably even a third option. With superstar expectations, you're always gonna be disappointed with the guy. :confusedshrug:

Is he really that bad?

[Rose]

Bulls would gladly take him off your guys' hands in exchange for Deng. Though Deng's not any better to build around, he'd try hard all the time. They're both dudes you add to teams that already have a star or two.

Iguodala just isn't a star himself. He's a sidekick. . .arguably even a third option. With superstar expectations, you're always gonna be disappointed with the guy. :confusedshrug:

Is he really that bad?
I kind of look at Iggy as a guy who really just checks out when he doesn't have a good team around him. Yeah he might gets his old numbers, but they won't be flashy or anything, and won't help you win. I agree he'd be a better sidekick than leader though just because of the fact he doesn't care about winning. Maybe I'm wrong though I'm sure Philly fans can fill us in better

[Im so nba'd out]

its the nbahe has suspect handles and a avg jumpshot for a sf what do you expect from him he is like a shawn marion maxing out all of his talents.Lower your expectations just because he dunks on a fastbreak or catches a alley opp doesnt mean he can take over a game......................

[artificial]

About the FT's and attacking the basket, it might actually have something to do with Doug Collins.

On opening night, the whole starting 5 ended up with zero FT's attempted. Actually, Lou is the only Sixer that is constantly going to the line. The rest of the team rarely shoots FT's. No Jrue, no Iggy, no Brand, no Young nor Turner.

That should be a red flag in Collin's offensive scheme. Get that fixed already.

[oh the horror]

It's crazy how he hasn't progressed in years. Just slowly become crappier and crappier. I don't get this guy. Solid handles, very good all around defense, crazy athletic, clutch as ****, 6'6 210 lbs, solid midrange game, high iq, impressive passer, can run, can rebound, great dunker and so on. All these characteristic usually = GOAT potential type player or atleast a dominant perimeter mother****er, but this guy has underachieved so much.

I've had so much hopes for this guy. What a disappointment so far...


Im thinking maybe its just one of those things where he needs a fresh start on another team. Also, Iggy cannot be the only option on a squad. He is a good piece to have, but not a star by any means...

[donsanchez306]

I agree completely with gobb. I wanted to rebuild beforewe got elton brand now we are stuck with him and iggy. I miss reggie evans and kyle korver

[Styles p]

I agree completely with gobb. I wanted to rebuild beforewe got elton brand now we are stuck with him and iggy. I miss reggie evans and kyle korver
me too bro.

[B-Easy8]

Wolves will take Iggy. Not willing to trade Beas, Flynn or Wes though. I would also rather not have to give up Love.

[DuMa]

Iggy is like a perfect example of why you need to learn to shoot in the NBA. Even if you can do everything else on the court easily, you're still very lacking if you cant shoot the ball.

[bdreason]

Stop acting like Iggy is paid 1st option type money. As I pointed out in another thread, he makes as much as the 3rd option on most the top teams in the league. 76ers suck because they are built wrong; bunch of wing players with no shooting or post play.

[bdreason]

And Iggy is a SF being forced to play SG... how'd that work for Kevin Durant?

[GOBB]

And Iggy is a SF being forced to play SG... how'd that work for Kevin Durant?

He plays the majority of his minutes at SF, much like he did last season dispite being listed as the starting SG :confusedshrug:

Sorry thats not a good excuse at all. I can understand if you said he is being forced to shoot as opposed to be a slasher. But that aint the case. And even if Doug Collins system may have to do with the lack of FTs. Iggy in his career only avg like 5 FT attempts per game. Weaksauce.

[jbot]

iggy has really fallen off.

[DPittman]

I've been posting this in a lot of threads but what yall think about this

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=29gpecn


the 76ers still have brand, no way they take back rashard as well

[Go Getter]

Tell 'em why you mad son!

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

iggy has really fallen off.
cancer

[chocolatethunder]

Solid handles, very good all around defense, crazy athletic, clutch as ****, 6'6 210 lbs, solid midrange game, high iq, impressive passer, can run, can rebound, great dunker and so on. All these characteristic usually = GOAT potential type player or atleast a dominant perimeter mother****er, but this guy has underachieved so much.

I've had so much hopes for this guy. What a disappointment so far...

I don't know which player you're describing but it isn't Iguodala. First off, he is a terrible and I mean terrible dribbler. He cannot handle the ball. He always calls for some stupid iso and then dribbles of his foot. His dribble is so bad it's painful. As a Sixers fan it's refreshing to see Evan Turner dribble after years of seeing Iggy dribble. I'm not saying Turner is good, just saying that he handles the ball 10x better than Iggy.

Solid midrange game? Not even close. He clangs shots all the time. He can't dribble so he has no pull up to speak of and his version of creating his own shot is as ugly as it gets. His 3 pt. shot is horrendous.

High IQ? No. It's not the worst but it's far from high. He is not a good passer, he's just a willing one. He doesn't make spectacular passes. He has the ball a lot and he'll give it up sometimes so he gets some assists.

Here's the good.
He's athletic and he's a very good defender. He would be a great third guy on a team. The problem with him is he can do a lot of stuff OK, but nothing well. As a result he tricks you into thinking that he will become great at some or all of those things. He really has not gotten much better at anything since his rookie year. He doesn't have GOAT anything.

[GOBB]

I dont even know what team this sellout could go too. I thought Phx but they got Turk. With J-Rich and Turk, really no need for Iguodala.

[Bricklayer]

I'm pretty sure most Jazz fans would be ecstatic to take a chance on Iggy. We're STARVING for athleticism over here. He'd be a 3rd option behind D-Will and Big Al and he may even be inspired to play harder for Sloan. We'll give you AK47's expiring contract of 18 mill. :cheers:

[GOBB]

I'm pretty sure most Jazz fans would be ecstatic to take a chance on Iggy. We're STARVING for athleticism over here. He'd be a 3rd option behind D-Will and Big Al and he may even be inspired to play harder for Sloan. We'll give you AK47's expiring contract of 18 mill. :cheers:

Sold and I think another player has to be thrown in to make salaries match.

[PHILA]

Iggy + Hawes for AK.

[Ron Artest]

Milwaukee trade's Redd's expirer for him, or New Orleans trades Peja's expirer for him.

[Bricklayer]

Iggy + Hawes for AK.

Do the salaries work on that? I'd take that in a heartbeat. We're missing Memo until January and Big Al is playing out of position at the 5 spot, so Hawes could chip in some minutes there. What's more - I guarantee that Kevin O'Connor has made a call to his old buddies in Philly asking about Iggy. We already know AK is on the trading block (he would've been part of the Melo deal), so I think we'll unload AK before the deadline. Iggy is every bit the playmaker that AK is for us and a better overall scorer. Plus, AK isn't too shabby himself and could be somewhat serviceable to you guys since he's in a contract year. The Jazz and Philly have already shown they have a history of making deals with each other because of O'Connor. (Korver for Giricek trade and that Herbert Hill guy we drafted. Whatever happened to him?)

[GOBB]

Trade works, Utah throws in a second rd in 2011 and we're good to go. :cheers:

[PHILA]

that Herbert Hill guy we drafted. Whatever happened to him? Playing pro ball in South Korea.

[VishaltotheG]

You guys want Deng and a pick for Iggydala?

[GOBB]

You guys want Deng and a pick for Iggydala?

We got Thaddeus Young, no need for Deng.

[The_Yearning]

I cant wait for the trading deadline in hopes some team out there who loves his talent, all around game, good guy behavior comes calling. Take him. He is nothing more than a fantasy basketball player. I doubt he would win MVP in the WNBA. Heck he probably would be scared to attack the basket in that league because he sure is a putty cat in the NBA. 1-3 from the FT line and 2 of the Fts came on a fast break where Wall fouled him from behind. Game went into OT and all you can muster is 3 FT attempts?

Who neutered this guy? Whoever did needs to be tasered unconscious. This dude has no balls. And when he is taking the last shot (if he isnt too scared too) the guy sucks. In the Wizards game he shot a f*cking rainbow that traveled up to the nose bleed seats then came down and bricked off the rim. Keep in mind he shot it at the elbow of the FT line. Why? Who shoots like that? Little friggin kids do. Not professional basketball players.

I'm done with Iguodala. I dont care if tomorrow he drops 33pts 15rbs 12ast 56stls 4blks and no turnovers. I bet he didnt go to the FT line more than 5 times. And I bet he still has a mangyna. I rarely use the words sucks and Iggy SUCKS! Get him out of Philadelphia. Iggy is a nut ass dude. :facepalm

Iggy is never afraid to take the last shot. He's clutch.

[GOBB]

Iggy is never afraid to take the last shot. He's clutch.

Iggy clutch???? :wtf:

Ok list the clutch performances. Did you see his clutch shot last night? He's about as clutch as Eric Snow when he was a Sixer. He had a couple buzzer beaters too yanno. Whooptee doo! :facepalm

[Jasper]

I seldom watch the 6er's , but I have seen enough of his game to know the type of player.
He is a 2nd or 3rd option player , that can hammer an opponent when his team is on a run... sound familiar Orlando ?

Iggy needs besides a 1st option player , 2 other critical things :

1) a PG that can generate many fast breaks forcing Iggy to hit the wing hard , and slash to the hoop.
2) a coach that realizes his talents are better suited in an open wide floor plan.
A guy built lik a truck is a SF playing like a perimeter 2 just doesn't make sense.

[Rose]

I seldom watch the 6er's , but I have seen enough of his game to know the type of player.
He is a 2nd or 3rd option player , that can hammer an opponent when his team is on a run... sound familiar Orlando ?

Iggy needs besides a 1st option player , 2 other critical things :

1) a PG that can generate many fast breaks forcing Iggy to hit the wing hard , and slash to the hoop.
2) a coach that realizes his talents are better suited in an open wide floor plan.
A guy built lik a truck is a SF playing like a perimeter 2 just doesn't make sense.
Orlando much?

[RoTM]

Orlando much?

Thats not Orlando, its Phoenix.

[Rose]

Thats not Orlando, its Phoenix.
I'm saying he should be sent to Orlando.

[Jasper]

player comparison guys (stay with me)

R. Lewis on Orlando (3rd option = big contract)
lights it up when rest of team is putting the hammer down.

[RoTM]

I'm saying he should be sent to Orlando.

I dunno it sounds like an attractive idea, but after thinking about it for awhile he would be invisible on the court in their system.

[Rose]

I dunno it sounds like an attractive idea, but I think he would be invisible on the court in their system.
Could be. maybe we'll see it happen. I'm 10000000% sure they're trading Vince.

[RoTM]

Could be. maybe we'll see it happen. I'm 10000000% sure they're trading Vince.

Yeah the have to considering their future with their roster and payroll. Something like VC, Gortat, 3mil for the eto for Iggy, Kapono, and Songaila.
Jrue
VC
Turner
Brand
Gortat

Jameer
Redick
Iggy
Shard
Dwight

That doesn't help Orlando this year but it saves them 20 million with the tax and keeps their team at about the same strength next year.

[Jasper]

not sure what franchise would ever want Vince Carter ...
he is right at the end of his line.

Fans don't even come out to see him , but the other players on his team... fan appeal is Zilch

[hoopaddict08]

not sure what franchise would ever want Vince Carter ...
he is right at the end of his line.


A team looking for a expiring contract.

[Rose]

Yeah the have to considering their future with their roster and payroll. Something like VC, Gortat, 3mil for the eto for Iggy, Kapono, and Songaila.
Jrue
VC
Turner
Brand
Gortat

Jameer
Redick
Iggy
Shard
Dwight

That doesn't help Orlando this year but it saves them 20 million with the tax and keeps their team at about the same strength next year.

I think he could be the player they need. Iggy's good in the playoffs right? That Magic series was so long ago I forgot? Bottomline is they need a clutch scorer who can help take the scoring load off of Dwight come playoff time.

[chocolatethunder]

Iggy is never afraid to take the last shot. He's clutch.

I nominate you for crack smoker of the year.

[markymark]

I cant wait for the trading deadline in hopes some team out there who loves his talent, all around game, good guy behavior comes calling. Take him. He is nothing more than a fantasy basketball player. I doubt he would win MVP in the WNBA. Heck he probably would be scared to attack the basket in that league because he sure is a putty cat in the NBA. 1-3 from the FT line and 2 of the Fts came on a fast break where Wall fouled him from behind. Game went into OT and all you can muster is 3 FT attempts?

Who neutered this guy? Whoever did needs to be tasered unconscious. This dude has no balls. And when he is taking the last shot (if he isnt too scared too) the guy sucks. In the Wizards game he shot a f*cking rainbow that traveled up to the nose bleed seats then came down and bricked off the rim. Keep in mind he shot it at the elbow of the FT line. Why? Who shoots like that? Little friggin kids do. Not professional basketball players.

I'm done with Iguodala. I dont care if tomorrow he drops 33pts 15rbs 12ast 56stls 4blks and no turnovers. I bet he didnt go to the FT line more than 5 times. And I bet he still has a mangyna. I rarely use the words sucks and Iggy SUCKS! Get him out of Philadelphia. Iggy is a nut ass dude. :facepalm

just realized it now? been saying that for years. i know crap when i see one :)

[markymark]

I think he could be the player they need. Iggy's good in the playoffs right? That Magic series was so long ago I forgot? Bottomline is they need a clutch scorer who can help take the scoring load off of Dwight come playoff time.

If I was SVG, I'd rather give the ball to Matt Barnes during crunch time.

[Rose]

If I was SVG, I'd rather give the ball to Matt Barnes during crunch time.
he's gone now?

[GOBB]

Bump bump bump, no B2k

[Rose]

You know you want....Deng.:cheers:

[ALBballer]

Trade him for Caron Butler? He'd also fit nicely on Utah.

[GOBB]

Trade him for Caron Butler? He'd also fit nicely on Utah.

Deal. Butler is an expirer.

[Jasper]

Trade him for Caron Butler? He'd also fit nicely on Utah.
Sloan has white hair already ... what do you want him to go skin head :oldlol:

Maybe the Clips ?

[LosBulls]

We will give you James Johnson for him.

[el gringos]

Igoudala + brand to the bucks
.
Hawes + nocioni + lou will + Illyasova to the nuggets
.
Redd + kmart + tylawson + delfino + balkman to 76rs

[ALBballer]

Igoudala + brand to the bucks
.
Hawes + nocioni + lou will + Illyasova to the nuggets
.
Redd + kmart + tylawson + delfino + balkman to 76rs

WTF? LOL. 6ers get rid of their big contracts and pick up nice prospect as well.

Ye ok lol.

[markymark]

he's gone now?

My bad, totally slipped my mind. :oldlol:

Rather give it to Reddick then :)

[JMT]

I don't know which player you're describing but it isn't Iguodala. First off, he is a terrible and I mean terrible dribbler. He cannot handle the ball. He always calls for some stupid iso and then dribbles of his foot. His dribble is so bad it's painful. As a Sixers fan it's refreshing to see Evan Turner dribble after years of seeing Iggy dribble. I'm not saying Turner is good, just saying that he handles the ball 10x better than Iggy.

Solid midrange game? Not even close. He clangs shots all the time. He can't dribble so he has no pull up to speak of and his version of creating his own shot is as ugly as it gets. His 3 pt. shot is horrendous.
High IQ? No. It's not the worst but it's far from high. He is not a good passer, he's just a willing one. He doesn't make spectacular passes. He has the ball a lot and he'll give it up sometimes so he gets some assists.

Here's the good.
He's athletic and he's a very good defender. He would be a great third guy on a team. The problem with him is he can do a lot of stuff OK, but nothing well. As a result he tricks you into thinking that he will become great at some or all of those things. He really has not gotten much better at anything since his rookie year. He doesn't have GOAT anything.

Solid breakdown of his skills.

Iguodala is example #2 of the "WOW! That guy can really dunk! He's a great player." mentality that runs rampant through fandom. Amare is example #1.

His basketball skills have never been anywhere near his athleticism. Doesn't have #1 or #2 option skills or mind set. He's a slightly smoother Shawn Marion, though in his prime Marion displayed more desire and more of a nose for the basket.

Fault the Sixers for never making a reasonable assessment of his talent. This franchise is in worse shape than it was in 1972-73 when they were the worst team in NBA history.

[Droid101]

Any team with 1 or 2 stars already on it could benefit from Iggy. Iggy is a perfect Ariza-type player. Long athletic defender that shouldn't be asked to do anything else other than finish the break or get steals.

[Bigsmoke]

Iggy for Brian Scalabrine

[Styles p]

check out his temper tantrum when he didnt get the ball for the last shot of regulation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySvzbGJ_zTg&feature=player_embedded

[GOBB]

check out his temper tantrum when he didnt get the ball for the last shot of regulation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySvzbGJ_zTg&feature=player_embedded

Would have been awesome if Evan Turner hit it. Unfortunately they werent playing Michigan :lol But yeah I laughed when I saw how he reacted. I knew he would be pissed Turner took the last shot.

[GOBB]

I still feel this way.

[kaiiu]

he put the clamps on Lebron:applause: :lol

[LA_Showtime]

Iggy's the type of player whose popularity would soar if put on a winning team. He'd be the perfect 3rd option and would probably have a better shot at being an all-star.

[ihatetimthomas]

The problem here is that for the amount of coin he is making, he is tough to move. I dont think you can get much better in return because no one is sending legit 1,2 options for him. You get a worse player(s) or a worse contract in return.

[GOBB]

The problem here is that for the amount of coin he is making, he is tough to move. I dont think you can get much better in return because no one is sending legit 1,2 options for him. You get a worse player(s) or a worse contract in return.

What do you think he is worth. Forget about if Sixers/team would do the deal. Just want to know what kind of value you think Iggy has in a trade.

[G-train]

What do you think he is worth. Forget about if Sixers/team would do the deal. Just want to know what kind of value you think Iggy has in a trade.


Would need expirers etc but -

OJ Mayo.

Jeff Green.

Kevin Martin.

Wes Matthews.

maybe even Amir Johnson and a pick.

players of that value.

[Bigsmoke]

Iggy would be sick for the Hornets

[GOBB]

Would need expirers etc but -

OJ Mayo.

Jeff Green.

Kevin Martin.

Wes Matthews.

maybe even Amir Johnson and a pick.

players of that value.

I dont even know what I would take out of those names. Only 2 guys are Mayo and Martin. Mayo because dispite the lackluster season this year I still like his talent. Martin can flat out score. If he cant do anything else worth speaking on, one thing he can do is score. Wont hear him say "I couldnt find an open shot" like Iggy mentioned after last game.

The others? No thanks...you might be able to sell me on Amir because of the pick. If its unprotected in 2012? Then its a go. If not? Get out my face.

[Sarcastic]

Iggy would be sick for the Hornets

I don't think that's enough to make Chris Paul stay though.

[Kellogs4toniee]

My biggest gripe with him is when he isn't sure whether to take that facilitator role or scorer role. He has the ability and talent to be a facilitator a la Pippen and Lebron, but he does it in the wrong situations. It was a blow-out in game 2, and yet I saw him force 3-4 turnovers in a matter of 5 or 6 possessions just because he tried facilitating even though they were down and clearly needed a scorer.

[alenleomessi]

Gomes+Kaman for Iggy+Hawes

[Crown&Coke]

Iggy is tight. He is no #1 option but that cat can do anything you want him to do.

-Great defender, can guard anyone from 1-4 (mostly perimeter 4's but he can handle some big 4's as well)
-His playmaking is underrated
-His end of game shot making is underrated
-His ability to get to the rim is underrated
-And his shot, although streaky, is underrated

This is similar to the Joe Johnson senario last year, great season, poor playoff showing against a good team and everyone sells his stock. Now everyone wants to bash him.

I would love for him to score more than 4.5 pts a game in this seies, but consider he has to guard each one of the miami thrice one time or another during the game, that is a lot of energy in defense alone. This isn't 2K were you can call 2 timeouts in a row and his energy bar gets back to full. 4 minutes on the bench is not long enough to regain all your energy, even for a pro athlete.

And yes, I am a big Iggy fan, as I am a JJ fan. Fans tend to rate players on the "what have you done lately" system.

[The_Yearning]

Iggy plays for triple double. Dude needs to know that the Sixers need scoring.

[LJJ]

Iggy is tight. He is no #1 option but that cat can do anything you want him to do.

-Great defender, can guard anyone from 1-4 (mostly perimeter 4's but he can handle some big 4's as well)
-His playmaking is underrated
-His end of game shot making is underrated
-His ability to get to the rim is underrated
-And his shot, although streaky, is underrated

This is similar to the Joe Johnson senario last year, great season, poor playoff showing against a good team and everyone sells his stock. Now everyone wants to bash him.

I would love for him to score more than 4.5 pts a game in this seies, but consider he has to guard each one of the miami thrice one time or another during the game, that is a lot of energy in defense alone. This isn't 2K were you can call 2 timeouts in a row and his energy bar gets back to full. 4 minutes on the bench is not long enough to regain all your energy, even for a pro athlete.

And yes, I am a big Iggy fan, as I am a JJ fan. Fans tend to rate players on the "what have you done lately" system.

Would be nice except that this thread is from the beginning of the season.

[Crown&Coke]

Would be nice except that this thread is from the beginning of the season.

:oldlol:

damn, I feel silly. I should edit my post and leave that part out

[GOBB]

-His playmaking is underrated

Look what kellogs wrote about Iggy last night.


-His end of game shot making is underrated

Based on what? Even Eric Snow has game winners/go ahead shots in his career.


-His ability to get to the rim is underrated

Iggy has 2 FTA so far this series. His FTA this season is the lowest in his career at 4.5 a game. How is this part of his game underrated when he doesnt draw fouls? Are you going to tell me thats because he finishes? He only avg 14ppg on the year. Avg under 5ppg this series in 2gms. So explain what I'm missing here.

Blame it on the bum knee?


-And his shot, although streaky, is underrated

No way.

[HylianNightmare]

we offer you gilbert arenas

[97 bulls]

So you don't like the other AI gobb?

[Eat Like A Bosh]

I think he could do well on a contender as the 3rd option.

[GOBB]

Gilbert Arenas? Slap yourself


So you don't like the other AI gobb?

What other AI?

[Scoooter]

Chauncey Billups and Roger Mason Jr. for Iguodala, Turner, and Holiday.

[Teanett]

Chauncey Billups and Roger Mason Jr. for Iguodala, Turner, and Holiday.

no way. at least hawes or thadeus young.

[Mark Madsen]

this ***** needs to go

[G-train]

I dont even know what I would take out of those names. Only 2 guys are Mayo and Martin. Mayo because dispite the lackluster season this year I still like his talent. Martin can flat out score. If he cant do anything else worth speaking on, one thing he can do is score. Wont hear him say "I couldnt find an open shot" like Iggy mentioned after last game.

The others? No thanks...you might be able to sell me on Amir because of the pick. If its unprotected in 2012? Then its a go. If not? Get out my face.

Not Wes Matthews either?
Matthews is a pretty good player.

[97 bulls]

Gilbert Arenas? Slap yourself



What other AI?
Lol classic

[Human Error]

I cant wait for the trading deadline in hopes some team out there who loves his talent, all around game, good guy behavior comes calling. Take him. He is nothing more than a fantasy basketball player. I doubt he would win MVP in the WNBA. Heck he probably would be scared to attack the basket in that league because he sure is a putty cat in the NBA. 1-3 from the FT line and 2 of the Fts came on a fast break where Wall fouled him from behind. Game went into OT and all you can muster is 3 FT attempts?

Who neutered this guy? Whoever did needs to be tasered unconscious. This dude has no balls. And when he is taking the last shot (if he isnt too scared too) the guy sucks. In the Wizards game he shot a f*cking rainbow that traveled up to the nose bleed seats then came down and bricked off the rim. Keep in mind he shot it at the elbow of the FT line. Why? Who shoots like that? Little friggin kids do. Not professional basketball players.

I'm done with Iguodala. I dont care if tomorrow he drops 33pts 15rbs 12ast 56stls 4blks and no turnovers. I bet he didnt go to the FT line more than 5 times. And I bet he still has a mangyna. I rarely use the words sucks and Iggy SUCKS! Get him out of Philadelphia. Iggy is a nut ass dude. :facepalm
Maybe LeBron is a better defender than he's being credited for? According to Miami Herald Iguodala scored only total of 9 points with LeBron defending him in game 1 and 2.

[97 bulls]

Maybe LeBron is a better defender than he's being credited for? According to Miami Herald Iguodala scored only total of 9 points with LeBron defending him in game 1 and 2.
Iguodala seems overwhelmed. Right now. I think its more iggy taking himself out of the games than anything that james is doing

[GOBB]

Not Wes Matthews either?
Matthews is a pretty good player.

I have to agree there. He is a solid player. Could definately upgrade our 2 spot.

What you think the Sixers should do with Iggy?


Maybe LeBron is a better defender than he's being credited for? According to Miami Herald Iguodala scored only total of 9 points with LeBron defending him in game 1 and 2.

Thats not the case at all.

[kumquat]

Look at the team he has around him. How do you even make the playoffs with spencer hawes as your C and jodie meeks as your SG and a useless bench.

[GOBB]

Look at the team he has around him. How do you even make the playoffs with spencer hawes as your C and jodie meeks as your SG and a useless bench.

What does that have to do with him playing like a p*ssy? :confusedshrug:

[JMT]

How do you even make the playoffs with spencer hawes as your C and jodie meeks as your SG and a useless bench.

Do what Doug Collins tells you to do.

[Rasheed1]

Iggy is a nut ass dude.

:lol Spoken like a true philadelphian

[donsanchez306]

Sixers need to trade iggy but who needs iggy is the question.

CBa is going to reduce salaries.

No one is going to want him to play 3rd fiddle at 15 million , unless this is a all in year for a contender.

Lakers ? =/

Celtics ? Maybe....

Thunder? Not. A chance.

spurs ? Way too intelligent to take him.

Heat ? Come on son.

Mavs ? Maybe....

Magic ? They only like players who shoot 3 s

[glidedrxlr22]

Looks like being a more well rounded player is costing him his usual numbers. The Sixers have too many wing players and guards. They all get in each other's way. Nobody stands out on that team.

[HylianNightmare]

Gilbert Arenas? Slap yourself




fine gilbert arenas and daniel orton:eek:

[ihatetimthomas]

What do you think he is worth. Forget about if Sixers/team would do the deal. Just want to know what kind of value you think Iggy has in a trade.

Chris Kaman or Luol Deng? Deng has raised his stock this season and has been given recognition. But I also believe Iggy would receive the same type of recognition if he was playing the 3rd option role Deng is playing in Chicago.

[GOBB]

Chris Kaman or Luol Deng? Deng has raised his stock this season and has been given recognition. But I also believe Iggy would receive the same type of recognition if he was playing the 3rd option role Deng is playing in Chicago.

I'll take Chris Kaman for Iggy in a heartbeat. No thanks on Deng. I really dont see him helping this team any more than Iggy has. If Iggy can bring back a big or starting SG then I'd be happy. I'd give him up for a first rd pick. A team that has cap space and willing to take on an established players rather than another young prospect.

[Crown&Coke]

I'll take Chris Kaman for Iggy in a heartbeat. No thanks on Deng. I really dont see him helping this team any more than Iggy has. If Iggy can bring back a big or starting SG then I'd be happy. I'd give him up for a first rd pick. A team that has cap space and willing to take on an established players rather than another young prospect.

That is actually a great idea. Clips want a veteran 3, and Philly would love a center. And Brand+Kaman were a hell of a combo

But would the Cilps move Kaman for Iggy's deal considering all the young talent they have and will eventually have to shell out some dough to keep? And do they want Iggy taking minutes from their young guy Aminu for that long? Also, would the Clippers deal with Philly after they "stole" Brand? But hindsight that move worked out well for the Clips :lol

[OhNoTimNoSho]

Igoudala has 0 competitive drive and is afraid of challenges.

[Stinky Dog]

Igoudala has 0 competitive drive and is afraid of challenges.
lol that's totally false. he wouldn't be a top 30 player if he was afraid of challenges and not competitive.

[kNIOKAS]

lol that's totally false. he wouldn't be a top 30 player if he was afraid of challenges and not competitive.
well, he isn't. how is that for you

[Crown&Coke]

Igoudala has 0 competitive drive and is afraid of challenges.

He routinely gets the best offensive player on the defensive end every game, how is that lack of competitive drive? He settles too much offensively, if that is what you were referring to. He needs to quit that shit and drive to the hole.

I think his decline in production is due to the emergence of Jrue Holiday. Last year (it might have been 2 yrs ago) Iggy played the point for the most part, and handled the ball almost the entire time. He now plays off the ball, and Philly doesn't score that many points as a whole, they are around the middle of the pack in the League. and they got a bunch of guys averaging double digits

[ihatetimthomas]

That is actually a great idea. Clips want a veteran 3, and Philly would love a center. And Brand+Kaman were a hell of a combo

But would the Cilps move Kaman for Iggy's deal considering all the young talent they have and will eventually have to shell out some dough to keep? And do they want Iggy taking minutes from their young guy Aminu for that long? Also, would the Clippers deal with Philly after they "stole" Brand? But hindsight that move worked out well for the Clips :lol

I dont think it would happen because he makes way too much money. He would be a perfect fit along with Griff and Gordon but they are going to have to shell out a lot of money to Gordon, Jordan soon and Iggy makes around 14 mil a year.

[imdaman99]

I'll take him on the Knicks because he's a very good defensive player. He just is not a good leader, which the Knicks already have. Put him as the SG and get Fields coming off the bench.

Obviously this can't happen because he makes too much and the Knicks need a starting C/PG more. But if he's the 2nd or 3rd option on a team, he could be very good. Problem in Philly is, there is no clear 1st option. In NY there would be a clear 1A and 1B option and he could be #3. I would take it in a heartbeat.

[step_back]

What about a package of Trevor Ariza and Carl Landry for Iggy?

[dbugz]

Jeff Green for Iggy :pimp:

[kNIOKAS]

Jeff Green for Iggy :pimp:
stop. iggy has been in nba for quite some time, and he's stalled. give me fresh jeff green

[dbugz]

stop. iggy has been in nba for quite some time, and he's stalled. give me fresh jeff green

As if Jeff Green already proved that he's better than Iggy?

Stop overrating Jeff Green. Dude hasn't done anything good yet in his nba career.

Iggy's defense > Green. Dude is an awful wing defender. Got abused by Melo on Game 2 and he's making too many stupid fouls.

Dude is afraid to make his moves because he's afraid that he'll get shouted by KG that's why he's making so many hesitations shots and passes.

If Iggy's in the shoes now of Green in the Cs roster. Celtics would be better defensively and he'll bring more toughness.


Come back to me and message me when Green's already accomplished something or even at least lead a team in the playoffs.

[imdaman99]

As if Jeff Green already proved that he's better than Iggy?

Stop overrating Jeff Green. Dude hasn't done anything good yet in his nba career.

Iggy's defense > Green. Dude is an awful wing defender. Got abused by Melo on Game 2 and he's making too many stupid fouls.

Dude is afraid to make his moves because he's afraid that he'll get shouted by KG that's why he's making so many hesitations shots and passes.

If Iggy's in the shoes now of Green in the Cs roster. Celtics would be better defensively and he'll bring more toughness.


Come back to me and message me when Green's already accomplished something or even at least lead a team in the playoffs.

Ummm, didn't everyone on the Celts get abused by Melo one on one... hence the hard double at the end of the game. I thought Green did as good a job as anyone was going to do in that game. When Melo or Kobe or Lebron or basically any stud with multi dimensional offensive abilities is on, no ones gonna contain them.

That being said, Iggy is better than Green but Green's younger, I wouldn't do that trade for the Celts.

[JMT]

I'll take him on the Knicks because he's a very good defensive player. He just is not a good leader, which the Knicks already have.

:roll:

[Fiasco]

We will offer Brian Cook and a small potluck for him.

[PP34Deuce]

Iggy doesnt care to score, He seems to like being utlitity starter. Capable of giving you 20ppg, but would rather have statlines of 15 9 and 6...Sounds like a great 3rd option who give you defensive stopped potential. If we had Iggy the celtics would be even dangerous for the fact that he can run with Rondo.

[Heat007]

Igoudala has 0 competitive drive and is afraid of challenges.

That's what LeBron and Wade do to people brah.



render opposing players impotent

[GOBB]

JMT I chuckled at that as well. :oldlol:


The only reason you dont trade Jeff Green for Iggy? Because Green is cheap. About it. Purely financial.

[ILLsmak]

JMT I chuckled at that as well. :oldlol:


The only reason you dont trade Jeff Green for Iggy? Because Green is cheap. About it. Purely financial.

Man, not every team can have someone like Kobe or LeBron...

Iggy would be a great 2nd guy. Or be great on a team that had more talent. He just needs to fit in because he's not a go-to guy. I gotta support my dude from Springfield, IL... he balls.

-Smak

[GOBB]

Man, not every team can have someone like Kobe or LeBron...

Iggy would be a great 2nd guy. Or be great on a team that had more talent. He just needs to fit in because he's not a go-to guy. I gotta support my dude from Springfield, IL... he balls.

-Smak

I'm not asking Iggy to be Kobe or Lebron. :confusedshrug:

[Hondo]

I don't know why we didn't try and trade Rondo + spare parts (Erden and Luke) for Holiday and Igoudala.

PG: Holiday/ West/ Arroyo
SG: Allen/ Iguodala/ Wafer
SF: Pierce/ Green/ Pavlovic
PF: Garnett/ Davis/ Murphy
CT: S. O'Neal/ J. O'Neal/ Krstic

Best team in the NBA. Iggy and Green are both average shooters, but Iggy's ability to handle the ball and pass, allows West to play off the ball on the 2nd unit. Defensively, that second unit is rock-solid. And now the shooting from the starting point guard isn't anemic.

Philly get's themselves a top 5 point guard, and they open up a starting spot for Thad Young. Evan Turner needs to be traded, because he just doesn't fit on to the team with or without Iguodala

[donsanchez306]

I was thinking Denver might. Mozgov Smith plus filler for iggy hawes:lol

[Heat007]

he's good but he's just outmatched by much better talent in this series.


nothing you can do about that.

[knickswin]

I don't know why we didn't try and trade Rondo + spare parts (Erden and Luke) for Holiday and Igoudala.

PG: Holiday/ West/ Arroyo
SG: Allen/ Iguodala/ Wafer
SF: Pierce/ Green/ Pavlovic
PF: Garnett/ Davis/ Murphy
CT: S. O'Neal/ J. O'Neal/ Krstic

Best team in the NBA. Iggy and Green are both average shooters, but Iggy's ability to handle the ball and pass, allows West to play off the ball on the 2nd unit. Defensively, that second unit is rock-solid. And now the shooting from the starting point guard isn't anemic.

Philly get's themselves a top 5 point guard, and they open up a starting spot for Thad Young. Evan Turner needs to be traded, because he just doesn't fit on to the team with or without Iguodala


Uh, correct me if I'm wrong but weren't Semih and Luke traded to the Cavs?

Anyway, I think Rondo means too much for the organization to be traded away, they'll probably try to rebuild around him once the other guys get too old (so in like a week . . )

Also, that trade isn't fair for Philly. Jrue is a good young point guard, not much worse than Rondo and Iggy's a very good player too.

[Hondo]

Uh, correct me if I'm wrong but weren't Semih and Luke traded to the Cavs?

My post was obviously reflective in nature. I guess sometimes on this website everything needs to be clearly spelled out for those of us with a lower IQ.

Anyway, I think Rondo means too much for the organization to be traded away, they'll probably try to rebuild around him once the other guys get too old (so in like a week . . )

Old in a week? The Knicks are getting slaughtered by these "old men." Rondo doesn't mean that much to this organization, we have looked at traded him on numerous occasions.

Also, that trade isn't fair for Philly. Jrue is a good young point guard, not much worse than Rondo and Iggy's a very good player too.

Rondo is a clear talent upgrade over Holiday. Ask any 76ers fan. Iguodala has really disappointed for the money he makes. Philly have a loaded payroll and they need to shed money, because they are currently hemorrhaging money.

Answers in bold

[GOBB]

Bump and edit Andre Iguodala with Evan Turner

[Styles p]

Bump and edit Andre Iguodala with Evan Turner
:applause: hes getting smoked out there.

[Godzuki]

i don't get some of these breakdowns of Iggy's game people wrote. how the hell does he have a high IQ? he's a real dumb player, on the low tiers of bball IQ in the NBA, and if there weren't a Russell Westbrook i'd put him down at the bottom. he's so streaky with his shot but more often awful, and i don't think anybody misses worse than he does when they do miss. he brings good size and athleticism but other than that relying on him for anything else is a crap shoot. i always knew he was overrated tho, just wasn't sure how overrated since i didn't regularly watch Philly games and see a few games here and there where he'd blow up.

he reminds me of Joe Johnson hype where some fans and media hype them up like they're these great star players but in actuality are way over-hyped/priced watching them in games. both coincidentally some of the most inconsistent stars there are in the game.

[GOBB]

i don't get some of these breakdowns of Iggy's game people wrote. how the hell does he have a high IQ? he's a real dumb player, on the low tiers of bball IQ in the NBA, and if there weren't a Russell Westbrook i'd put him down at the bottom. he's so streaky with his shot but more often awful, and i don't think anybody misses worse than he does when they do miss. he brings good size and athleticism but other than that relying on him for anything else is a crap shoot. i always knew he was overrated tho, just wasn't sure how overrated since i didn't regularly watch Philly games and see a few games here and there where he'd blow up.

he reminds me of Joe Johnson hype where some fans and media hype them up like they're these great star players but in actuality are way over-hyped/priced watching them in games. both coincidentally some of the most inconsistent stars there are in the game.

Your opinion on Iggy is so far off I wonder if you watch games or you simply just read replies and pick the other side to look like you have a clue. To compare him to Westbrook when it comes to bball IQ is the most ridiculous thing I've read. No comparison. Iggy IQ is higher than Westbrooks ever was. Iggy isnt a dumb play. He doesnt make many mental errors on both ends of the floor and with the ball (he' a good faciliator). So I have no clue what the f*ck you're babbling about.

[Godzuki]

Your opinion on Iggy is so far off I wonder if you watch games or you simply just read replies and pick the other side to look like you have a clue. To compare him to Westbrook when it comes to bball IQ is the most ridiculous thing I've read. No comparison. Iggy IQ is higher than Westbrooks ever was. Iggy isnt a dumb play. He doesnt make many mental errors on both ends of the floor and with the ball (he' a good faciliator). So I have no clue what the f*ck you're babbling about.


his shot selection can be terrible, especially when he's trying to be the man. his decision making between shooting and passing at times is awful as well and can be very TO prone. sometimes it looks like he's using his athleticism ahead of his brain.

i probably watch more bball than you do considering you're probably too broke to even afford league pass :oldlol: not to mention i'm a much better observer than you are which is a fact :pimp:

i didn't say he was as bad as Westbrook btw, i said if there weren't a Westbrook he'd be down at the bottom. i don't know how you can say he's a smart player since he isn't most of the time i've watched him in #1 option situations.

[Burgz V2]

i don't get some of these breakdowns of Iggy's game people wrote. how the hell does he have a high IQ? he's a real dumb player, on the low tiers of bball IQ in the NBA, and if there weren't a Russell Westbrook i'd put him down at the bottom. he's so streaky with his shot but more often awful, and i don't think anybody misses worse than he does when they do miss. he brings good size and athleticism but other than that relying on him for anything else is a crap shoot. i always knew he was overrated tho, just wasn't sure how overrated since i didn't regularly watch Philly games and see a few games here and there where he'd blow up.

he reminds me of Joe Johnson hype where some fans and media hype them up like they're these great star players but in actuality are way over-hyped/priced watching them in games. both coincidentally some of the most inconsistent stars there are in the game.

the is one of the most ill-informed comments i've ever read. Iggy low ball IQ? reminds you of joe johnson in how he attracts hype? inconsistent?

Iggy is one of the smartest defenders in the league right now, and one of the most versatile players, period. I hardly see that as the product of "hype" from fans. Ask any NBA coach and they'll tel you, he might not be a superstar, but every last coach will take him on their team. GTFO with this nonsense, sounds like you've never even watched a single game of his
:biggums:

[Godzuki]

the is one of the most ill-informed comments i've ever read. Iggy low ball IQ? reminds you of joe johnson in how he attracts hype? inconsistent?

:biggums:


i don't see how you can even argue the fact that he's hyped more than his game, just like JJ. both are looked at by the general media and public like they're all stars, but game to game they aren't nearly what they're billed as. in fact they're as close to overhyped as there are of any 2 'star' players in the league.

i see Iggy making dumb decisions constantly or taking horrible shot selection shots. my views aren't going to change on that since thats been one of the most consistent things i've seen of Iguadola when i've watched him. well mostly in situations where he tries to take over a game or is fed as a 1st option.

lol you should try watching him in Denver of late, or maybe you're being forgetful of a lot of his poor showings in Philly, and only remembering his good games. like i said very inconsistent.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

the is one of the most ill-informed comments i've ever read. Iggy low ball IQ? reminds you of joe johnson in how he attracts hype? inconsistent?

Iggy is one of the smartest defenders in the league right now, and one of the most versatile players, period. I hardly see that as the product of "hype" from fans. Ask any NBA coach and they'll tel you, he might not be a superstar, but every last coach will take him on their team. GTFO with this nonsense, sounds like you've never even watched a single game of his
:biggums:

He's a low iq offensive player (or scorer rather). As you said though...he does ALOT of things well.

Not a superstar / franchise-player, but would fit it on most teams as long as they feature scorers.

[Mach_3]

I don't know why we didn't try and trade Rondo + spare parts (Erden and Luke) for Holiday and Igoudala.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[GOBB]

He's a low iq offensive player (or scorer rather). As you said though...he does ALOT of things well.

Not a superstar / franchise-player, but would fit it on most teams as long as they feature scorers.

Explain low iq offensive player. This I'd like to hear.

[ILLsmak]

Bump and edit Andre Iguodala with Evan Turner

you are always throwing some wing under the bus...

I thought this was gonna be bump because of the should-have-been game winner Iggy hit.

Someday Evan Turner will get traded and he'll do well. Then you'll throw someone else under the bus.

-Smak

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Explain low iq offensive player. This I'd like to hear.

Let me preface this by saying that I mean his filter (or lack there of) as a scorer. He's actually a pretty good playmaker.

For one..the guy shoots way too many 3's. Forget last season..that was an anomaly (he's shooting about 27% atm). Iggy has routinely averaged 3-4 per game and only hits them at a career 33% clip (w/ multiple seasons of 31% and below). Another issue I have w/ him is that he settles. Dude has always had an athletic advantage over most his defenders, yet settles....for jumpshots. He's been about average from 16-23FT, tho his midrange and face-up game from just outside the rim (3-9FT) leave a lot to be desired.

My criticism may not be so much his IQ, but the lack of versatility from a scoring perspective.

[GOBB]

you are always throwing some wing under the bus...

I thought this was gonna be bump because of the should-have-been game winner Iggy hit.

Someday Evan Turner will get traded and he'll do well. Then you'll throw someone else under the bus.

-Smak

1. Iggy should have been game winner? What is that? Who keeps tabs on that? you hit it or you dont. He didnt. FACT, so take your moral victory nonsense and hold onto it

2. Evan Turner will get traded and do what he has been doing here. You dont defend nothing about his game. His jumper is broke. He lacks range. He struggles going left. He drives to the basket and doesnt attack rather is confused which gets him in trouble. Average defender. Yet Evan Turner is better than Luol Deng according to your silly ass.

Take 1 and 2 and shove it up your ASS!

Luol Deng >>>>>> Evan Turner. You said "watch you'll see" and how many more seasons do I need to keep watching to see Deng is the better player not Turner???? You wont answer none of this shyt so shut the f*ck up from now on.

[kurple]

1. Iggy should have been game winner? What is that? Who keeps tabs on that? you hit it or you dont. He didnt. FACT, so take your moral victory nonsense and hold onto it
well, he did.

he made the jumper to put Denver up by 1.

gallo missed the last shot

[ILLsmak]

1. Iggy should have been game winner? What is that? Who keeps tabs on that? you hit it or you dont. He didnt. FACT, so take your moral victory nonsense and hold onto it

2. Evan Turner will get traded and do what he has been doing here. You dont defend nothing about his game. His jumper is broke. He lacks range. He struggles going left. He drives to the basket and doesnt attack rather is confused which gets him in trouble. Average defender. Yet Evan Turner is better than Luol Deng according to your silly ass.

Take 1 and 2 and shove it up your ASS!

Luol Deng >>>>>> Evan Turner. You said "watch you'll see" and how many more seasons do I need to keep watching to see Deng is the better player not Turner???? You wont answer none of this shyt so shut the f*ck up from now on.

Evan Turner may be skittish in terms of where he fits, but he's still a better player because he has the potential to play a better role and will. Just like when he was at Ohio State, it took him awhile to get his confidence. His skillset is rare. Have faith. You want to see people fail on your team. Why? You're one of those over-emotional fans.

I hope you don't have kids. You'd be like MY SON IS DUMB AS SHIT... HOW IS HE GONNA BE READY FOR THE WORLD IF HE CAN'T EVEN DO WELL IN GRADE SCHOOL?

Iggy did hit the GW. It's not his fault that Brewer left Ray Allen wide open.

Iggy is a good player. ET is a good player. All will become clear in the end.

-Smak

[Whoah10115]

Evan Turner may be skittish in terms of where he fits, but he's still a better player because he has the potential to play a better role and will. Just like when he was at Ohio State, it took him awhile to get his confidence. His skillset is rare. Have faith. You want to see people fail on your team. Why? You're one of those over-emotional fans.

I hope you don't have kids. You'd be like MY SON IS DUMB AS SHIT... HOW IS HE GONNA BE READY FOR THE WORLD IF HE CAN'T EVEN DO WELL IN GRADE SCHOOL?

Iggy did hit the GW. It's not his fault that Brewer left Ray Allen wide open.

Iggy is a good player. ET is a good player. All will become clear in the end.

-Smak



He's not arguing over Turner's potential. Luol Deng is a much better player, as he has been a very good player throughout his career and Turner hasn't proven anything yet.

[Burgz V2]

He's a low iq offensive player (or scorer rather). As you said though...he does ALOT of things well.

Not a superstar / franchise-player, but would fit it on most teams as long as they feature scorers.

explain. :rolleyes:

[Timmy D for MVP]

I'm sorry. It isn't Iguo's fault that the Sixers were retarded enough to see him as a center piece instead of a great wing man.

You put Iguo on any of the true contenders in the NBA and the balance of power shifts entirely towards that team.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Burgz, I posted a response to GOBB.


I'm sorry. It isn't Iguo's fault that the Sixers were retarded enough to see him as a center piece instead of a great wing man.

You put Iguo on any of the true contenders in the NBA and the balance of power shifts entirely towards that team.

Exactly

[GOBB]

Evan Turner may be skittish in terms of where he fits, but he's still a better player because he has the potential to play a better role and will. Just like when he was at Ohio State, it took him awhile to get his confidence. His skillset is rare. Have faith. You want to see people fail on your team. Why? You're one of those over-emotional fans.

I hope you don't have kids. You'd be like MY SON IS DUMB AS SHIT... HOW IS HE GONNA BE READY FOR THE WORLD IF HE CAN'T EVEN DO WELL IN GRADE SCHOOL?

Iggy did hit the GW. It's not his fault that Brewer left Ray Allen wide open.

Iggy is a good player. ET is a good player. All will become clear in the end.

-Smak

Turner is in his 3rd season and he is still not better than Luol Deng like you claimed. :roll:

If you were my son I wouldnt claim you. Damn you're slow. Corky?

[GOBB]

I'm sorry. It isn't Iguo's fault that the Sixers were retarded enough to see him as a center piece instead of a great wing man.

You put Iguo on any of the true contenders in the NBA and the balance of power shifts entirely towards that team.

Iggy demanded $80mil because he felt he could be the man, the go to scorer of the team. So it is his fault. And putting him on a title contender? Really? You gotta go to that extreme huh? Sad :roll:

[Go Getter]

Evan Turner may be skittish in terms of where he fits, but he's still a better player because he has the potential to play a better role and will. Just like when he was at Ohio State, it took him awhile to get his confidence. His skillset is rare. Have faith. You want to see people fail on your team. Why? You're one of those over-emotional fans.

I hope you don't have kids. You'd be like MY SON IS DUMB AS SHIT... HOW IS HE GONNA BE READY FOR THE WORLD IF HE CAN'T EVEN DO WELL IN GRADE SCHOOL?

Iggy did hit the GW. It's not his fault that Brewer left Ray Allen wide open.

Iggy is a good player. ET is a good player. All will become clear in the end.

-Smak
1. It's not a game-winner if you don't WIN THE GAME.
2. The bolded makes no sense. He is a better player now? C'mon man, you can't believe this.
3. I like Turner as a person but it seems like the kid might bust at this point.

[Burgz V2]

Let me preface this by saying that I mean his filter (or lack there of) as a scorer. He's actually a pretty good playmaker.

For one..the guy shoots way too many 3's. Forget last season..that was an anomaly (he's shooting about 27% atm). Iggy has routinely averaged 3-4 per game and only hits them at a career 33% clip (w/ multiple seasons of 31% and below). Another issue I have w/ him is that he settles. Dude has always had an athletic advantage over most his defenders, yet settles....for jumpshots. He's been about average from 16-23FT, tho his midrange and face-up game from just outside the rim (3-9FT) leave a lot to be desired.

My criticism may not be so much his IQ, but the lack of versatility from a scoring perspective.

last year he shot almost 40 percent from three, idk about you but that is pretty good.

i would have agreed with you a couple years ago, but AI has constantly said his shooting is something that he has been working on in the offseason and he felt that doug collins handcuffed him in that regard, telling him to shoot less threes.

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/10/10/andre-iguodala-says-collins-era-was-draining/

[QUOTE]

[Timmy D for MVP]

Iggy demanded $80mil because he felt he could be the man, the go to scorer of the team. So it is his fault. And putting him on a title contender? Really? You gotta go to that extreme huh? Sad :roll:

And who wrote the check? Because lets be real. If an agent came to my house TODAY and said: "Hey we can get centerpiece money" even though I know full well I'm not worth that, I'm doin it. Would you?

The Sixers paid him that money.

Yes. Because that's what he is. A great wingman player. It's not an extreme. What I'm saying is that if you put him on the Heat, they are suddenly the absolute favorite... heavily. Same for SAS, OKC, Boston, etc. If he gets on any of those squads it's an absolute shock if they don't win the title.

And if you put him on some of the fringe teams they become contenders. His value is tough to understate. The Sixers really ****ed up by setting the precedent with the contract they gave him, because the ideal situation would be to have Bynum and build with Iguo there.

[Whoah10115]

And who wrote the check? Because lets be real. If an agent came to my house TODAY and said: "Hey we can get centerpiece money" even though I know full well I'm not worth that, I'm doin it. Would you?

The Sixers paid him that money.

Yes. Because that's what he is. A great wingman player. It's not an extreme. What I'm saying is that if you put him on the Heat, they are suddenly the absolute favorite... heavily. Same for SAS, OKC, Boston, etc. If he gets on any of those squads it's an absolute shock if they don't win the title.

And if you put him on some of the fringe teams they become contenders. His value is tough to understate. The Sixers really ****ed up by setting the precedent with the contract they gave him, because the ideal situation would be to have Bynum and build with Iguo there.



I agree with you, but a year before he got extended he made it a point to say he wanted a max deal. I remember him on PTI talking about it, and Wilbon brought up that Arenas said he wasn't worth it.


He'd be stupid not to take what's offered or what he could get, but he went looking for a contract. The contract he got is not bad at all (we'll see about the next), but what he was asking brought spotlight and rightfully so. He made it a point to say that. So he deserves the spotlight.



With that said, I can also evaluate him for what he is. He could be a great player, but maybe he just doesn't want to be one all by himself. Hell, maybe he can't.

[GOBB]

And who wrote the check? Because lets be real. If an agent came to my house TODAY and said: "Hey we can get centerpiece money" even though I know full well I'm not worth that, I'm doin it. Would you?

The Sixers paid him that money.

Yes. Because that's what he is. A great wingman player. It's not an extreme. What I'm saying is that if you put him on the Heat, they are suddenly the absolute favorite... heavily. Same for SAS, OKC, Boston, etc. If he gets on any of those squads it's an absolute shock if they don't win the title.

And if you put him on some of the fringe teams they become contenders. His value is tough to understate. The Sixers really ****ed up by setting the precedent with the contract they gave him, because the ideal situation would be to have Bynum and build with Iguo there.

Ummm it is an extreme because Heat, Spurs, OKC are teams that could win a title without Iggy. So I fail to really see your point. You could put Lou Williams on the Miami Heat and they would be better. But if Lou is never on the Heat? Heat are still great as is. :confusedshrug:

The fact you need to place Iggy on a situation where a team has a franchise player, a complimentary player to a star player as a 3rd or 4th wheel is hilarious to me.

Its not Iggy's fault he rather make a cute pass instead of scoring a bucket as he drove to the rim.
Its not Iggy's fault he sucks at drawing fouls.
Its not Iggy's fault his handles are still mediocre.
Its not Iggy's fault he doesnt have a dependable jump shot.
Its not Iggy's fault he thinks he is what the Sixers paid him to be (read interviews)

Sixers fault because they saw potential in him improving these things and being a better player to step into a role where he doesnt need to be a 3rd, 4th cog on an already NBA TITLE CONTENDER. :rolleyes:

Hindsight 20/20.

[Clippersfan86]

GOBB I'm trying to figure out if you like Iggy or not. One minute you're blasting people who criticize him and the next minute you list 20 things he sucks at. I'm not trying to troll, I'm genuinely trying to figure out if you think he's a great player or not.

[Timmy D for MVP]

Ummm it is an extreme because Heat, Spurs, OKC are teams that could win a title without Iggy. So I fail to really see your point. You could put Lou Williams on the Miami Heat and they would be better. But if Lou is never on the Heat? Heat are still great as is. :confusedshrug:

The fact you need to place Iggy on a situation where a team has a franchise player, a complimentary player to a star player as a 3rd or 4th wheel is hilarious to me.

Its not Iggy's fault he rather make a cute pass instead of scoring a bucket as he drove to the rim.
Its not Iggy's fault he sucks at drawing fouls.
Its not Iggy's fault his handles are still mediocre.
Its not Iggy's fault he doesnt have a dependable jump shot.
Its not Iggy's fault he thinks he is what the Sixers paid him to be (read interviews)

Sixers fault because they saw potential in him improving these things and being a better player to step into a role where he doesnt need to be a 3rd, 4th cog on an already NBA TITLE CONTENDER. :rolleyes:

Hindsight 20/20.

You're right they all COULD win without him.

What I'm saying is they WOULD win with him. He's on the short list of great complimentary players. He has great value within a basketball game.

Here lemme simplify it. What is Iguo's value to you? Basketball value, lets say everyone played for free so we don't have to worry about bball to monetary value.

[GOBB]

GOBB I'm trying to figure out if you like Iggy or not. One minute you're blasting people who criticize him and the next minute you list 20 things he sucks at. I'm not trying to troll, I'm genuinely trying to figure out if you think he's a great player or not.

I dont like Andre Iguodala. But I'm not hard headed to know that he is talented and can help a team in the right situation. But there are things about him, his game that will NEVER change and thats where my dislike stems from. I blasted GodDelusional because his post about Andre Iguodala was inaccurate. Low bball IQ?

You ever wonder why not one poster has put forth a good argument to why Iggy has a low bball IQ? Because its not true. That doesnt mean I like Iggy.

:confusedshrug:

[KyrieTheFuture]

Iggy would be the best #2 option in the league

[GOBB]

James Harden got $80mil and its only been a few games but he's doing things Iggy never did before. I dont think Harden is worth the max but by seasons end he could make me eat my words. Iggy never came close to making anyone eat their words with the deal he demanded/recieved.

And good call on the Arenas situation. He was openly critical of Arenas not being deserving yet can anyone say Iggy deserved and earned his deal? Lettuce be realism.


Iggy would be the best #2 option in the league

To who?

He's a 3rd option at best player. Hes with the Shawn Marion, Lamar Odom of the world.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I dont like Andre Iguodala. But I'm not hard headed to know that he is talented and can help a team in the right situation. But there are things about him, his game that will NEVER change and thats where my dislike stems from. I blasted GodDelusional because his post about Andre Iguodala was inaccurate. Low bball IQ?

You ever wonder why not one poster has put forth a good argument to why Iggy has a low bball IQ? Because its not true. That doesnt mean I like Iggy.

:confusedshrug:

What don't you like about him exactly?

[KyrieTheFuture]

To who?

He's a 3rd option at best player. Hes with the Shawn Marion, Lamar Odom of the world.

Yea probably should have clarified that my bad but I just imagine him partnered with Rose or Irving and can't help but think that's a great compliment. Idk I just love defensive stoppers and hes certainly that so perhaps I'm over valuing his worth. I'll be honest I don't watch many sixers games you would know more than me. He's someone I would never feel confident about as a first option but I'd be ecstatic if he were my 2nd or certainly my 3rd best player.

[GOBB]

What don't you like about him exactly?

He plays like a p*ssy ie passive player that is afraid to attack offense.

There was a play last season. 2 on 1 break Iggy and Jodie Meeks. Iggy had a chance to slam dunk it home but instead made an around the back pass to Jodie Meeks who blew the layup. I hate his mentality and approach to the game. Weak.

[Carbine]

Iggy is a clear third option/third best player on a championship level team.

If he's anywhere near your best player, highly likely your team will be ringless until that changes.

[outbreak]

Unless he's on a win now team paired up with another star scorer all he'll ever do is bog down a franchise with his contract. That's why Orlando didn't want him.

[GOBB]

Evan Turner continues to play like ass. Not even Iggy played this bad.

But yeah Evan Turner is better than Luol Deng. :roll: Whats your IQ again?

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

Evan Turner continues to play like ass. Not even Iggy played this bad.

But yeah Evan Turner is better than Luol Deng. :roll: Whats your IQ again?

I agree. Turner looks like straight doodoo this season.

[GOBB]

Evan Turner 3pts yesterday :rolleyes:

Meanwhile Deng is avg 19ppg 7rpg 3apg

[AngelEyes]

Evan Turner 3pts yesterday :rolleyes:

Meanwhile Deng is avg 19ppg 7rpg 3apg

Never been a Turner fan, don't expect much out of him in his career.

[Glide2keva]

yeah maybe when he starts defending and finds a position to be good at.
Didn't know the NBA was all about FT's

[Styles p]

Didn't know the NBA was all about FT's
where did i say anything about free throws?:confusedshrug: