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L.Kizzle
11-15-2010, 05:07 PM
How would music have been different if these artist hadn't died before their time? I think it would have been real interesting had these greats lived on longer and added on/improved or hell even invented something in music.


Would you all include John Lennon ? While he passed some what young, you could say he had already passed his primes with the Beatles...


-Robert Johnson: 1938
-Hank Williams: 1953
-Buddy Holly: 1959
-Richie Valens: 1959
-The Big Bopper: 1959
-Sam Cooke: 1964
-John Coltrane: 1967
-Otis Redding: 1968
-Tami Terrell: 1970
-Jimi Hendrix: 1970
-Janis Joplin: 1970
-Jim Morrison: 1971
-Duane Allman: 1971
-King Curtis: 1971
-Keith Moon: 1978
-Sid Vicious: 1979
-John Bonham: 1980
-Randy Rhodes: 1982
-Eazy E: 1994
-Kurt Kobain: 1994
-Selena: 1995
-Tupac: 1996
-Notorious B.I.G.: 1997
-DJ Screw: 2000
-Aaliyah: 2001
-Mac Dre: 2004
-Amy Winehouse: 2011


I know I'm forgetting some important folks so help me out.

blondie
11-15-2010, 05:11 PM
Selena, Aaliyah and Tupac all got completely overrated just because they died early, no one used to listen to Aaliyah until she died now everyone always talks about how they're nostalgic for her shitty songs and she coulda been one of the greats..:rolleyes:

Lebowsky
11-15-2010, 05:11 PM
Jim Morrison, Freddy Mercury, Ian Curtis

the GIBBET
11-15-2010, 05:28 PM
Little Richard didn't die in his prime, but he quit during it in order to preach. I would actually probably have him number 1 on that list of artists I wish could have produced more work in their prime, followed by Otis Redding. Honorable mention to Bradley Nowell from Sublime.

clipse026
11-15-2010, 05:29 PM
Otis Redding would go at the top of my list.

the GIBBET
11-15-2010, 05:30 PM
Selena, Aaliyah and Tupac all got completely overrated just because they died early, no one used to listen to Aaliyah until she died now everyone always talks about how they're nostalgic for her shitty songs and she coulda been one of the greats..:rolleyes:


madness.

L.Kizzle
11-15-2010, 05:32 PM
Otis Redding would go at the top of my list.
I'm not saying rank these artist, but how would have music been different had they lived?

What do you think Otis would have been doin' in the early 70s? How would he ave changed music?

rufuspaul
11-15-2010, 05:34 PM
Jim Morrison, Freddy Mercury, Ian Curtis

+1. New Order is a great band but Joy Division was iconic.

clipse026
11-15-2010, 05:40 PM
I'm not saying rank these artist, but how would have music been different had they lived?

What do you think Otis would have been doin' in the early 70s? How would he ave changed music?
I know, just saying out of everyone on your list, he's the one I liked/cared about the most. I don't really know how music would have changed, I just wish there was more of his out there. I liked his voice, his songs and the soul behind it.

L.Kizzle
11-15-2010, 05:41 PM
I know, just saying out of everyone on your list, he's the one I liked/cared about the most. I don't really know how music would have changed, I just wish there was more of his out there. I liked his voice, his songs and the soul behind it.
ok gotcha.

PowerGlove
11-15-2010, 05:44 PM
Selena, Aaliyah and Tupac all got completely overrated just because they died early, no one used to listen to Aaliyah until she died now everyone always talks about how they're nostalgic for her shitty songs and she coulda been one of the greats..:rolleyes:
Ban this f*cking loser already.

Aaliyah's one in a million( a CD I have btw) went 2X platinum before her death. Not to mention her debut album also went 2X platinum. STFU.

Why are you always so wrong?

Jailblazers7
11-15-2010, 05:47 PM
Robert Johnson
Elliot Smith
Jeff Buckley
Brian Jones

Dasher
11-15-2010, 05:48 PM
Had Otis lived he would have completely altered the course of Stax Record's history. Would Issac Hayes have come from the background to produce Hot Buttered Soul if Stax wasn't desperately in need of a star to replace Otis. The Original Bar-Kays also died with him. They could have radically affected the development of funk had they lived.

Patrick Chewing
11-15-2010, 05:51 PM
http://treesong.org/files/images/freddie-mercury.jpg

L.Kizzle
11-15-2010, 05:52 PM
Had Otis lived he would have completely altered the course of Stax Record's history. Would Issac Hayes have come from the background to produce Hot Buttered Soul if Stax wasn't desperately in need of a star to replace Otis. The Original Bar-Kays also died with him. They could have radically affected the development of funk had they lived.
Yes, that's what I'm lookin for.

Stax would not have folded in 74 had he lived. But, like you said, we might not have gotten Isaac Hayes.

B-Low
11-15-2010, 05:53 PM
Selena, Aaliyah and Tupac all got completely overrated just because they died early, no one used to listen to Aaliyah until she died now everyone always talks about how they're nostalgic for her shitty songs and she coulda been one of the greats..:rolleyes:

Selena was HUGE in the hispanic community and had just started making her way into the American music scene. And I know a LOT of people who were Aaliyah fans.

Shocking that a blonde white guy who was in middle school at the time wouldn't know many people who listened to Aaliyah and Selena (black and hispanic female artists). I'm sure you hung out with LOTS of people from those two cultures. But hey "i don't know many people who liked them" always = "nobody listened to them" right?

L.Kizzle
11-15-2010, 05:59 PM
http://treesong.org/files/images/freddie-mercury.jpg
No offense to Freddy Mercury but I didn't include him cause he was 45 when he passed. Ans Queen was past it's peak/prime, ect.

New York Knicks
11-15-2010, 05:59 PM
Left Eye from TLC.

boozehound
11-15-2010, 06:04 PM
Selena was HUGE in the hispanic community and had just started making her way into the American music scene. And I know a LOT of people who were Aaliyah fans.

Shocking that a blonde white guy who was in middle school at the time wouldn't know many people who listened to Aaliyah and Selena (black and hispanic female artists). I'm sure you hung out with LOTS of people from those two cultures. But hey "i don't know many people who liked them" always = "nobody listened to them" right?
dude, its sergio. he makes a career out of having very strong opinions on topics he knows nothing about. has anyone ever been shown to be wrong more on ISH? and in just about every field discussed.

Dasher
11-15-2010, 06:05 PM
The death of Tupac and eventual demise of Death Row created the power vacuum that allowed No Limit Records to flourish, and Jay Z to become a star. I don't believe Percy Miller or Sean Carter become as successful as they became with a living Pac. I also believe The East-Coast/West Coast foolishness would have eventually been squashed and Biggie would have not died as well.

The 2-Pac Death Conspiracy Industry would also cease to exist.

brownmamba00
11-15-2010, 06:06 PM
Big L

L.Kizzle
11-15-2010, 06:14 PM
The death of Tupac and eventual demise of Death Row created the power vacuum that allowed No Limit Records to flourish, and Jay Z to become a star. I don't believe Percy Miller or Sean Carter become as successful as they became with a living Pac. I also believe The East-Coast/West Coast foolishness would have eventually been squashed and Biggie would have not died as well.

The 2-Pac Death Conspiracy Industry would also cease to exist.
This one is a toughy, the albums Ice Cream Man and Reasonable Doubt were both released months before Pac passed away.


Big L
L didn't wasn't a known name in hip-hop when he passed so we don't know if he would have blown up or not.

JustinJDW
11-15-2010, 06:26 PM
Bob Marley. :confusedshrug:

I know he already released like at least a dozen albums before his death and didn't have like his prime ahead of him or anything. But damn would it have been cool if he was still alive and making music in the 80's. Just a damn shame cancer took him away.

Just a thought.

Dasher
11-15-2010, 06:39 PM
Bob Marley. :confusedshrug:

I know he already released like at least a dozen albums before his death and didn't have like his prime ahead of him or anything. But damn would it have been cool if he was still alive and making music in the 80's. Just a damn shame cancer took him away.

Just a thought.
Bob Marley died right before he was about to truly blow up in America. He didn't go Platinum till two years after he died. Bob still had some good music left in him. He could have been huge in the 80s which was a good decade for reggae popularity-wise.

L.Kizzle
11-15-2010, 06:40 PM
Bob Marley. :confusedshrug:

I know he already released like at least a dozen albums before his death and didn't have like his prime ahead of him or anything. But damn would it have been cool if he was still alive and making music in the 80's. Just a damn shame cancer took him away.

Just a thought.
Don't know how I forgot Bob Marley, neg me, lol.

Patrick Chewing
11-15-2010, 06:43 PM
No offense to Freddy Mercury but I didn't include him cause he was 45 when he passed. Ans Queen was past it's peak/prime, ect.

Well as far as his age goes, yeah he died very young. As for Queen, mind you they had another resurgence in popularity thanks to the movie Wayne's World. But I get what you're saying. You're saying artists that died before they could have been huge.

dawsey6
11-15-2010, 06:47 PM
This one is a toughy, the albums Ice Cream Man and Reasonable Doubt were both released months before Pac passed away.


L didn't wasn't a known name in hip-hop when he passed so we don't know if he would have blown up or not.

He definitely had all the right tools. Flow, metaphors, wordplay, vocal delivery, knew how to paint a picture...with the right management he would've been a star. Without it, he still would've had a slew of great hip-hop songs and freestyles.

I would add JMJ to the list.

and Marvin!

NoGunzJustSkillz
11-15-2010, 06:51 PM
Selena, Aaliyah and Tupac all got completely overrated just because they died early, no one used to listen to Aaliyah until she died now everyone always talks about how they're nostalgic for her shitty songs and she coulda been one of the greats..:rolleyes:
eh aaliyah was more of an actress when she passed imo. that 'i miss you' track was one sad fcking song tho. gives me the chills everytime i see the video. same with pun's 'it's so hard'.

pete's montreux
11-15-2010, 07:04 PM
Jeff & Tim Buckley
Cliff Burton

Eddie Cochran was the real white king of rock and roll, dead at 21. He had the talent and the charisma to overtake Elvis, and Eddie wrote most of his material.

Sandy Denny
Rory Gallagher
Phil Lynott
Jeff Porcaro

Bon Scott
Stevie Ray Vaughan

SayTownRy
11-15-2010, 07:08 PM
Jim Croce

craigthomasb
11-15-2010, 07:15 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club

amazing how many rock stars died at age 27

Enigmatism
11-15-2010, 07:26 PM
Bob Marley
Big Mello
Big L
Big Pun
MC Trouble
Saahir (from Epatomed)
ODB

simcjt
11-15-2010, 07:37 PM
Saw the thread title and instantly thought dilla. :confusedshrug:

Nelson14
11-15-2010, 07:41 PM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/107/287480894_a202729d7a.jpg

D.J.
11-15-2010, 08:13 PM
Darren Robinson from the Fat Boys
Mercury Nelson and T.C.D. Lundy from the Force MDs

Hazard
11-15-2010, 08:23 PM
Layne Staley, Primo of Gang Starr, Eyedea, Bob Marley, Peter Tosh. Sorry if any were mentioned already.

Enigmatism
11-15-2010, 10:14 PM
Layne Staley, Primo of Gang Starr, Eyedea, Bob Marley, Peter Tosh. Sorry if any were mentioned already.

Primo? I'm pretty sure you mean Guru

Enigmatism
11-15-2010, 10:14 PM
Marvin Gaye

Lamar Doom
11-15-2010, 10:16 PM
Otis Redding would go at the top of my list.


this. Sam Cooke and Marvin Gaye in the mix too.

Enigmatism
11-15-2010, 10:26 PM
Scott LaRock
Subroc from KMD

TonyJones
11-15-2010, 11:02 PM
Ian Curtis
Minnie Ripperton
Marvin Gaye
Kurt Cobain
Jimi Hendrix
Elvis Presley

Showtime
11-15-2010, 11:19 PM
Aliyah is so overrated.

No Marvin Gaye? Lynyrd Skynyrd? SRV?

the GIBBET
11-15-2010, 11:25 PM
Aliyah is so overrated.

No Marvin Gaye? Lynyrd Skynyrd? SRV?


Marvin Gaye was 45 years old when he died.

AirGauge23
11-15-2010, 11:28 PM
Selena
Ritchie Valens
Big Bopper
Buddy Holly
Kurt Cobain
Layne Staley

Showtime
11-15-2010, 11:35 PM
Marvin Gaye was 45 years old when he died.
So people stop being creative in their 40's? He still could have contributed a lot to music.

L.Kizzle
11-16-2010, 12:40 AM
So people stop being creative in their 40's? He still could have contributed a lot to music.
I doubt he'd have reinvented himself and do anything like his work from 10+ years ago at that time. Of course we'll never know though ...

If Marvin is added, might as well add Elvis and Mike Jackson.

the GIBBET
11-16-2010, 12:53 AM
I doubt he'd have reinvented himself and do anything like his work from 10+ years ago at that time. Of course we'll never know though ...

If Marvin is added, might as well add Elvis and Mike Jackson.


yep, by 45 most artists are just touring with their classic hits, maybe occasionally putting out an album to sell on their tours, but i think it's pretty obvious that the point of the thread was about artists who died during the time they were at the peak of their production and popularity.

momo
11-16-2010, 08:37 AM
Jeff & Tim Buckley
Cliff Burton

Eddie Cochran was the real white king of rock and roll, dead at 21. He had the talent and the charisma to overtake Elvis, and Eddie wrote most of his material.

Sandy Denny
Rory Gallagher
Phil Lynott
Jeff Porcaro

Bon Scott
Stevie Ray Vaughan

That one is huge. Lots pass early but cochrans passing changed a
Zillion things. Rock would have been very different with him & Buddy making music tel a ripe old age.

momo
11-16-2010, 08:39 AM
Scott LaRock
Subroc from KMD
Another good one.

Ruh-Roh
11-16-2010, 08:50 AM
Otis Redding tops that for me.

Marvin Gaye belongs on that list with how his music was still evolving. Curtis Mayfield should be there for the same reason.

Jaco Pastorious hasn't been mentioned yet, which stuns me. Jeff Buckley was a tragic recent one. Hillel Slovak was just about to explode with the Chili Peppers when he passed. Their entire (mainstream) catalogue would be different if he were here today, which really intrigues me.

Mozart...Left Eye, Eazy E, I'll come up with more.

RaininThrees
11-16-2010, 08:56 AM
Shannon Hoon.

BRabbiT
11-16-2010, 09:46 AM
Shannon Hoon.


this dude was soulful.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXBjdAj1SUg

playtetris
11-16-2010, 10:00 AM
Saw the thread title and instantly thought dilla. :confusedshrug:

in terms of hip hop, me too.

the man made some of the most beautiful beats i've ever heard. all different styles too.

you had those old pharcyde remixes (classic beat right here plus one of my favourite verses of all time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIFtIIAZvgE)) including the one where he outflipped the gap band sample used in 'lifes a *****' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71CsTapNKtM&playnext=1&list=PL57EDD00DA5E383C6&index=10)

then you had those floaty rhodes-driven tracks with the heavy stabby basslines (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtZV-CkqONg) that make you feel like you're jumping from cloud to cloud on a sunday afternoon.

then you had the early slum village records with the handclap snares (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7JZPrAq-zw) and his stuff with common (one of my favourite dilla verses (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oecneY2-6No&feature=related)).

the funniest thing is some of my favourite beats are either unreleased (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axXOoa8Dyt0&feature=related) or wasted on wack emcees (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZirWfHChww)

L.Kizzle
11-16-2010, 10:53 AM
Otis Redding tops that for me.

Marvin Gaye belongs on that list with how his music was still evolving. Curtis Mayfield should be there for the same reason.

Jaco Pastorious hasn't been mentioned yet, which stuns me. Jeff Buckley was a tragic recent one. Hillel Slovak was just about to explode with the Chili Peppers when he passed. Their entire (mainstream) catalogue would be different if he were here today, which really intrigues me.

Mozart...Left Eye, Eazy E, I'll come up with more.
Mayfield passed away in 1999, over 40 years after he joined the Impressions and almost 30 after his landmark solo LP's. While he was still released up until his death, I doubt he was gonna change the course of music agaon lie he did 30+ years earlier.

I forgot about Jeff Buckley.

Ruh-Roh
11-16-2010, 11:47 AM
Mayfield passed away in 1999, over 40 years after he joined the Impressions and almost 30 after his landmark solo LP's. While he was still released up until his death, I doubt he was gonna change the course of music agaon lie he did 30+ years earlier.

I forgot about Jeff Buckley.

He was paralyzed in 1990 though, which essentially ended the rest of his career, not for lack of him trying.

L.Kizzle
11-16-2010, 11:52 AM
He was paralyzed in 1990 though, which essentially ended the rest of his career, not for lack of him trying.
I understand, but was he gonna do anything significant to change music like he had already done 2-3 decades earlier? Of course we will never know, but probably not.

And being paralyzed didn't stop him from releasing music, I have his New World Order album.

rainydrinkwater
11-16-2010, 11:55 AM
John Henry Bohnam (Led Zeppelin) the greatest rock drummer of all time. Hip Hop producers have been sampling from his work from the very beginning...

rufuspaul
11-16-2010, 12:20 PM
So people stop being creative in their 40's? He still could have contributed a lot to music.

Starface is terrified of aging and doesn't think anyone over the age of 30 should be allowed to live. He's also banned, again.:oldlol:

CBLhoops
11-16-2010, 12:20 PM
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/Syngates21/blah/randy_rhoads.jpg

don't know if there are many classic metal guys on here but Rhoads died way too young, i would've loved to hear his own stuff without ozzy

TennesseeFan
11-16-2010, 12:25 PM
Me.

Although, the "increased record sells after death" thing isn't really working out for me.

L.Kizzle
11-16-2010, 01:14 PM
Joe Tex.

While he died years after his prime, I think him passing in 1982, he didn't get to enjoy the resurgence other soul/rnb artist got from the 80s through the years.

His name would be mentioned with the Wilson Picketts, Solomon Burkes, Al Greens, James Browns, ect. He's not even in the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame.

Manute for Ever!
11-16-2010, 01:27 PM
I haven't read the whole thread, but these are some I am fairly certain that haven't received much, if any, recognition:

Bon Scott:
http://www.taste-of-black.ch/images/bon_scott.jpg

Lynn Strait:
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6463/snotlynn234ea.jpg

Brad Nowell:
http://www.nndb.com/people/823/000089556/brad.jpg

Hillel Slovak:
http://consequenceofsound.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/hillel.jpg

Shannon Hoon:
http://nicoblue.altervista.org/images/BlindMelon/ShannonHoon5.jpg

Elliott Smith:
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/10/18/Elliott_Smith_photo_051018022946332_wideweb__300x3 75.jpg

Janis Joplin:
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/photos/2009/janisjoblin1_mr.jpg

I really want to add Frank Zappa, but he doesn't fit the criteria.
I'll post more as I think of them.

momo
11-16-2010, 02:45 PM
I haven't read the whole thread, but these are some I am fairly certain that haven't received much, if any, recognition:

Lynn Strait:
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6463/snotlynn234ea.jpg



Good one. I was going to post him but I didn't know if peeps would even know who he was.

~~~

Marc Bolan. Died just before 30. Having an up/down career and creative cycle with real hi peeks he was primed for at least one more good output cycle. Who knows how productive that cycle would have been, but I can see him releasing some more amazing shit if he lived a little longer.

LJJ
11-16-2010, 03:01 PM
Sandy Denny
Rory Gallagher

Sandy Denny did her best stuff with Fairport Convention and she died many years after she left them.
Rory Gallagher also clearly past his prime when he died. Not to say it's not sad that they died so young, but have we missed anything from them musically? I think not.



Now Gram Parsons died at 26 and by that time he had released two absolute landmark albums with two different bands, and two great, great solo records. Both recorded within a year of his death.
Basically the last four records he actually paid attention to are classics, two of them (Sweetheart of the Rodeo and of course The Gilded Palace of Sin) appearing on many "best albums of all time" lists. Who knows what he could have released? Anyone who released anything dubbed "alternative country" basically build their career on the dude.


edit: figures my 8000th post is a music post. About Gram Parsons no less.

boozehound
11-16-2010, 03:10 PM
anyone post chris whitley yet?

pete's montreux
11-16-2010, 05:43 PM
Sandy Denny did her best stuff with Fairport Convention and she died many years after she left them.
Rory Gallagher also clearly past his prime when he died. Not to say it's not sad that they died so young, but have we missed anything from them musically? I think not.



Now Gram Parsons died at 26 and by that time he had released two absolute landmark albums with two different bands, and two great, great solo records. Both recorded within a year of his death.
Basically the last four records he actually paid attention to are classics, two of them (Sweetheart of the Rodeo and of course The Gilded Palace of Sin) appearing on many "best albums of all time" lists. Who knows what he could have released? Anyone who released anything dubbed "alternative country" basically build their career on the dude.


edit: figures my 8000th post is a music post. About Gram Parsons no less.

Sandy Died in 1978, so you're right, I thought she died in 1971. My mistake, however, early 30's is still young.

As for Rory, he's a bluesman, and they get better with age. See: any bluesman who's lived past 40. There's so many examples It's not even worth the time to list them. He was constantly touring and his songs were evolving with every tour. Just because he stopped releasing albums on a regular basis does NOT mean he slowed down artistically.

And what do you even mean past his prime? Have you listened to the shit he was playing in Montreux in '94? The man was still in his prime, just listen to the music. Do that and get back to me and tell me the man was past his prime. That's asinine.

DeronMillsap
11-16-2010, 07:17 PM
-Aaliyah: 2001

Not a fan of her but wasn't she on the verge of crossing over to mainstream pop? She did that movie with Jet Li before she died. Could have been on Beyonce's level if she lived.

RedBlackAttack
11-16-2010, 07:30 PM
Nick Drake

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7226/nickdrakeu02.jpg



Nicholas Rodney "Nick" Drake (19 June 1948 – 25 November 1974) was an English singer-songwriter and musician. Best known for the sombre pieces composed on his primary instrument, the guitar, Drake was also proficient at piano, clarinet and saxophone. Although he failed to find a wide audience during his lifetime, Drake's work has gradually achieved wider notice and recognition; he now ranks among the most influential English singer-songwriters of the last 50 years.[2][3][4]

Drake signed to Island Records when he was 20 years old and released his debut album, Five Leaves Left, in 1969. By 1972, he had recorded two more albums—Bryter Layter and Pink Moon. None of the albums sold more than 5,000 copies on their initial release.[5] His reluctance to perform live or be interviewed further contributed to his lack of commercial success. Despite this, he was able to gather a loyal group of fans who would champion his music. One such person was his manager, Joe Boyd, who had a clause put into his own contract with Island Records that ensured Drake's records would never go out of print. Drake suffered from depression and insomnia throughout his life, and these topics were often reflected in his lyrics. Upon completion of his third album, 1972's Pink Moon, he withdrew from both live performance and recording, retreating to his parents' home in rural Warwickshire. On 25 November 1974, Drake died from an overdose of amitriptyline, a prescribed antidepressant; he was 26 years old.

Drake's music remained available through the mid-1970s but the 1979 release of the retrospective album Fruit Tree caused his back catalogue to be reassessed. By the mid-1980s Drake was being credited as an influence by such artists as Robert Smith and Peter Buck. In 1985, The Dream Academy reached the UK and US charts with "Life in a Northern Town", a song written for and dedicated to Drake.[6] By the early 1990s, he had come to represent a certain type of 'doomed romantic' musician in the UK music press, and was frequently cited by artists including Kate Bush, Paul Weller and The Black Crowes.[7] Drake's first biography was written in 1997, and was followed in 1998 by the documentary film A Stranger Among Us. In 2000, Volkswagen featured the title track from Pink Moon in a television advertisement, and within a month Drake had sold more records than he had in the previous 30 years.


Pink Moon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXnfhnCoOyo)

Road (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx2Q-RwJyls&feature=related)

From the Morning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2JjJPDz3EE&feature=related)

Place To Be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IUqN9ozmhw&feature=related)

Northern Sky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LSU8LIjNbA)

(Too many other great tunes to list.)

Nick Drake documentary -- A Stranger Among Us (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=accJOyEvDeY)

Hazard
11-16-2010, 07:37 PM
Primo? I'm pretty sure you mean Guru
:hammerhead: Yes, good call.

bdreason
11-16-2010, 07:38 PM
Add Lynn Straight to the list.


Lead singer of Snot, killed in a car crash (1998).



RIP



edit- well I see someone already said him... didn't think anyone here listened to Snot.

Manute for Ever!
11-17-2010, 12:09 AM
Good one. I was going to post him but I didn't know if peeps would even know who he was.

Add Lynn Straight to the list.


Lead singer of Snot, killed in a car crash (1998).



RIP



edit- well I see someone already said him... didn't think anyone here listened to Snot.

I used to love Snot back in the day, I posted Lynn thinking nobody would recognise him. :cheers:
I still listen to "Get Some" now, especially "Unplugged", great song.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a328/kwl83/lynn.jpg

bdreason
11-17-2010, 12:27 AM
I graduated HS in (June) 1998 and on Grad night me and 2 freinds got hammered and went to a Snot show, then snuck into Grad night afterwards. Probably one of his last shows since he died later than year in December.

Manute for Ever!
11-17-2010, 12:39 AM
I graduated HS in (June) 1998 and on Grad night me and 2 freinds got hammered and went to a Snot show, then snuck into Grad night afterwards. Probably one of his last shows since he died later than year in December.

That would've been awesome, I've got five or six of their live shows (handheld camera in the audience) on video back in Australia and they were crazy live. For those who don't know Snot:
Snot - 'Stoopid' (music video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnkUsFCu50)
Snot - 'Unplugged' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MRggyuwf-s)

Meticode
11-17-2010, 12:59 AM
Selena, Aaliyah and Tupac all got completely overrated just because they died early, no one used to listen to Aaliyah until she died now everyone always talks about how they're nostalgic for her shitty songs and she coulda been one of the greats..:rolleyes:
Odd since One In a Million (before she died) in 1996 sold two million in the US certifying it platinum x2 by 1997. The album is ranked #90 out of the Rolling Stones top 100.

I'm sorry, but her stuff was good before she died. So I completely disagree with at least Aaliyah.

ShaqAttack3234
11-17-2010, 01:03 AM
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/Syngates21/blah/randy_rhoads.jpg

don't know if there are many classic metal guys on here but Rhoads died way too young, i would've loved to hear his own stuff without ozzy

My favorite guitar player of all time. :rockon:

oh the horror
11-17-2010, 06:45 AM
I saw the name Sid Vicious thrown around, and I have to say that what you saw from that kid in life....was PROBABLY just about as much of him you would have seen throughout his life, if he lived.


His fame, was PURELY based on his turbulant life in general, and his involvement with the murder case between him and his girl Nancy Spungen.


IF ANYTHING.....Sid (if he lived) probably would have been convicted of murder. Dude was the prime suspect in her stabbing in that hotel room. Sid, was just a junky with moderate to "blah" talent as a bass player in some bands...word was, he wasnt particularly that good.




A thing to note about 2pac is his side projects when he was murdered. Pac was actually involved in several projects trying to get them off the ground as well. His own label called "euthanasia"....Along with several other community projects as well, helping out youth. etc etc.

I believe 2pac's influence on the world, would have stretched a bit further than music alone. His popularity in THAT particular field would have leveled out a bit....and you would have witnessed a man, with alot of OTHER talents blossuming. I believe he would have had a richer acting career, perhaps writing scripts as well. His "gangster" image would have faded quickly and he would have been able to express himself in other areas. He was a talented man, that was cut off before he had a chance to sharpen any real skill totally.


What we all witnessed was a raw Tupac Shakur. Kind of sad really, to imagine what if with that one.




Aliyah was not overrated. When you consider the fact that she died at a mere fu*king 21 years of age? She was practically JUST GETTING STARTED. What a hell of a career she could have had.





Saying latin singer Selena is overrated is insane. That woman, IN HER EARLY 20s was A MASSIVE HIT among the hispanic communities, and I honestly believe, if still with us, would have been HUGE. Im talking like...ICON, DIVA, BIG TIME massive record sales, and a huge hit. We're talking like ....a singer that was literally cut down before she had a chance.



Selena was a mere 23 years old when she was shot and killed. 23 years old. JUST BREAKING INTO THE AMERICAN MUSIC SCENE. I could only begin to imagine what her career would have been like.







Anyway, did anyone mention Brad Nowell, lead singer of Sublime? They were huge locally here in socal...but were getting pretty big when he overdosed. I believe Brad was 27 as well.





This thread kind of makes me sad, to try and imagine how much richer, potent the music industry could have potentially been with some of these people still with us.

oh the horror
11-17-2010, 06:48 AM
Odd since One In a Million (before she died) in 1996 sold two million in the US certifying it platinum x2 by 1997. The album is ranked #90 out of the Rolling Stones top 100.

I'm sorry, but her stuff was good before she died. So I completely disagree with at least Aaliyah.



And she was ONLY 21!!

L.Kizzle
02-26-2012, 11:43 AM
-Amy Winehouse: 2011

L.Kizzle
07-17-2012, 01:07 AM
Johnny Ace: After 8 top 10 hits in a row, on Christmas in 1954 he apparently shot himself on accident playing a game of Russian Roulette

Jesse Belvin: Jesse Belvin was on the brink of stardom when he was killed in a head on collision in February of 1960. That same night he was killed, he just finished a show with Sam Cooke and Jackie Wilson.

L.Kizzle
07-17-2012, 01:11 AM
luther vandross :(
Luther was almost 55 when he passed on to Soul Heaven.

Soul Heaven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSC9DaGP0io)

Lamar Doom
07-17-2012, 01:13 AM
http://static.tumblr.com/sul2fk7/nxHllgn1m/tumblr_lj63ffvgww1qavjvho1_400.jpg



greatest singer of all time. f*ck your arguments, you're wrong on this, I know better than you.

Borat
07-17-2012, 01:23 AM
Keith Green

Freedom Kid7
07-17-2012, 01:26 AM
http://i2.listal.com/image/1855932/600full-cliff-burton.jpg
The Great Cliff Burton. I think if he had not died, Metallica would have gone in a different direction.

Saintsfan1992
07-17-2012, 03:59 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/14/Soulja_Slim.jpg/220px-Soulja_Slim.jpg

R.i.P

Died Nov. 26,2003 (age 26)

he may not have been shit on the national level to all of you
but he was a true hometown hero.

takeittothehoop
07-17-2012, 07:22 AM
http://i2.listal.com/image/1855932/600full-cliff-burton.jpg
The Great Cliff Burton. I think if he had not died, Metallica would have gone in a different direction.
The guy in your avi deserves a mention as well..

AK47DR91
07-17-2012, 07:35 AM
Would you all include John Lennon ? While he passed some what young, you could say he had already passed his primes with the Beatles...

-Keith Moon: 1978
Moon shouldn't be on the list then because The Who were already past their prime by 1975. They had a couple of hit singles in the mid-70's but were definitely already on a decline.

rufuspaul
07-17-2012, 07:45 AM
John Lennon had a hit album on the charts (Double Fantasy) at the time of his death. He was very relevant and had a lot of projects in the works for the future.

JohnnySic
07-17-2012, 08:02 AM
Andrew Wood. Had he not died, Pearl Jam never would have formed, as after his death the remaining members of Mother Love Bone picked up Eddie Vedder as their new singer to replace him. PJ went on to become arguably the best rock band of the next 20 years.

Mother Love Bone could have been "the band" of the grunge era. They were better than Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, and Soundgarden (all bands that I love, btw). They were even better than Nirvana. http://www.thewayiplay.com/mainforum/Smileys/ByronSmileys_001/jawdrop.gif

AK47DR91
07-17-2012, 08:15 AM
Andrew Wood. Had he not died, Pearl Jam never would have formed, as after his death the remaining members of Mother Love Bone picked up Eddie Vedder as their new singer to replace him. PJ went on to become arguably the best rock band of the next 20 years.

Mother Love Bone could have been "the band" of the grunge era. They were better than Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, and Soundgarden (all bands that I love, btw). They were even better than Nirvana. http://www.thewayiplay.com/mainforum/Smileys/ByronSmileys_001/jawdrop.gif
I don't know if MLB would have even been famous if Wood had lived. They didn't really have that "grunge sound" that exploded in 1991-92. They actually sounded like a hair metal band, not the cheesy kind, with the likes of Skid Row and Guns N Roses.

Nick Young
07-17-2012, 08:19 AM
Cliff Burton and Jimi Hendrix.


Just imagine, if both didn't die it's likely they'd still be around today.

Metallica would have never turned shit. Jimi would have kept making sick albums

And they'd perform together on stage at some charity concert.

Holy shit. Cliff Burton and Jimi Hendrix together, I think that's impossible to top.

L.Kizzle
07-17-2012, 08:30 PM
It's crazy how some of those deaths altered music history. And imagine how different it would be have they lived.

Jesse Belvin died in a car crash in 1960. Who was in the car right in front of him, Jackie Wilson and Same Cooke (who was murdered 4 years later ...)

Otis Redding was in a plane that went down in December of 1967. Who was also on that plane, the members of the Bar-Kays. Bassist James Alexander was in another plane who's son is producer Jazze Pha. Who sold Otis Redding the plane ... James Brown.

Lebron23
07-17-2012, 08:46 PM
Richie Valen and Buddy Holly.

Smoke117
07-18-2012, 01:47 AM
Well I'm not going to rename artist so i'll just add one: http://www.dannyraywhitten.com/18cm%20100.JPG

Danny Whitten

ducktape
07-18-2012, 02:44 AM
rock music died when kurt cobain died

L.Kizzle
07-18-2012, 08:02 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Qom2kNocUhw/TmRJFiMc4pI/AAAAAAAABnE/-yyIeR1-z90/s1600/Fever+cover.jpg

Little Willie John died in 1968 at age 30

John is one of the unforgotten Rock N Roll Legends of the early days. He did the original version of "Fever" when he was just 17. He was before Sam Cooke and Jackie Wilson as a great vocalist. Dare I say, one of the greatest ever (just listen to him!) He came on the scene with Little Richard, Chuck Berry and Elvis. He's the only performer that frightened James Brown, out of JB's own mouth. James Brown was his opening act actually! He was wrongly convicted of murder in 1966 and died in jail in 1968.

It's a shame how he just got swept under the rug. That book above is a great book, one of the greatest I've ever read. Seriously pick it up if you wanna hear about the early days of Rock N Roll and Soul.